Israel's Netanyahu to visit Hungary, defying ICC arrest warrant

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okabe700@reddit

European antisemitism is good news for Israel, without it nobody would've ever had the thought of leaving their homes behind to some random colony in the Middle East because of some religious promise and historical stories

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sr_edits@reddit

This only goes to show how little you know about Judaism and the Jewish people.

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somebodysetupthebomb@reddit

I know they get off on genocide

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Killeroftanks@reddit

i mean is he wrong? 90% of people who moved to israel never had a connection to the region outside of religious ties. in fact thats one of the reason why middle eastern countries rejected israels creation. they really didnt want more europeans carving up their lands for themselves.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Well, the people who formed Israel wasn't people that Europe wanted to claim. That's sorta why they went and formed Israel.

But it's very convenient to deflect the creation of Israel to us by calling them Europeans in this one instance, shapeshifting OP.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

“Culture that wasn’t so easy to integrate”

man that’s definitely one way to describe the holocaust and all the countries that didn’t want the burden of refugees.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

They have been banished from more countries as a whole probably more times than any other group with whatever metric you want to use. I think it's fair to say that there were some issues with integration then.

However you want to put that forward, there has clearly been a bit of a contentious history were Europeans didn't want to claim them as their own. And just looking at how they are ruling their country now it's unlike any modern European country, except maybe Russia.

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party_core_@reddit

They have been banished from more countries as a whole probably more times than any other group with whatever metric you want to use. I think it's fair to say that there were some issues with integration then.

I'm about as anti-zionist as it gets, but this line of thinking is dangerously close to the common "109 countries" rhetoric routinely employed by neo-nazis and white supremacists.

If this was something you said by mistake, I'd suggest reflecting on that. If it was on purpose, I'd suggest stopping commenting.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

I think it's more effective rhetoric to explain your reasoning rather than telling people to stop asking questions or risk being associated with a bad label.

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party_core_@reddit

Huh?

My reasoning is what you said sounds like a common white supremacist talking point. That's it.

I never said stop asking questions. I pointed out that what you said comes close to a dangerous line. And it is dangerous, WS rhetoric is a mask for violence.

I'm not interested in litigating the worthiness of white supremacist rhetoric, nor in pretending that it's an issue of labeling. The value of "just asking questions" is also long settled.

You're either hiding your power level, or are mistakenly trading in WS tropes.

Do what you will, I have my ideas about what's up here.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Yeah. I think similarly about you and some of the other commentators, you are more angling for ways to label me antisemitic than actually engaging with what I am saying.

Curiosity is only dangerous if you don't have good answers and are hiding something. Otherwise you should just be able to continue a conversation without turning it into a witch-hunt. Of course I'm not saying anything by accident, but it might just be that you are reading more into it than what I'm actually putting forward.

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party_core_@reddit

I see what you're about

goodbye

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party_core_@reddit

there's nothing to engage with

now I'm 100% on the power level thing

glancing at your post history where you sane-wash lauren southern and "joke" about tay is just the final nail

goodbye

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

Yes, they are probably the most persecuted group in history. (You seem to be insinuating there are good reasons for this, please feel free to actually elaborate.)

Which makes it very understandable they would want their own country, and defend it from a neighboring country whose government swore to obliterate them as a core part of their charter.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Yes, they are probably the most persecuted group in history. (You seem to be insinuating there are good reasons for this, please feel free to actually elaborate.)

Well it's like I said, I think they had their own culture going on and they obviously didn't integrate/assimilate well into other cultures. Do you have a better explanation?

Which makes it very understandable they would want their own country, and defend it from a neighboring country whose government swore to obliterate them as a core part of their charter.

Well yeah, that's understandable. It's the ethno-nationalism, breaking international laws, genociding, stealing homes and land (even to this day), religious justifications, trying to sell nuclear weapons to Africa, etc. They finally got their country, their independence and this is what they chose to do with it.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

That wasn’t an explanation, that was more vague insinuating. The holocaust didn’t occur because of their culture, but because they’re a relatively insular minority that’s easy to brand the enemy. Fascist regimes love easy enemies, as it’s how they galvanise their citizens to give up their own rights.

They couldn’t find refuge because no country wanted to put their hand up and be responsible for millions of refugees. Lots of countries did take small amounts. Now post a source for your dumbass astroturfing or just admit it’s dumbass astroturfing

Yeah, not like they haven’t had a decade without being invaded or bombed since the holocaust refugees arrived, and were then bombed.

The US gets bombed once and its calls dozens of nations into a multi year extermination of the extremist group that did it in the Middle East. Israel defends its territory against its neighbour that’s sole reason for government is to destroy Israel, and with a much lower civilian to combatant death ratio and its genocide.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

That wasn’t an explanation, that was more vague insinuating. The holocaust didn’t occur because of their culture, but because they’re a relatively insular minority that’s easy to brand the enemy. Fascist regimes love easy enemies, as it’s how they galvanise their citizens to give up their own rights.

The holocaust explains one banishment, there are like 100 more to go.

They couldn’t find refuge because no country wanted to put their hand up and be responsible for millions of refugees. Lots of countries did take small amounts. Now post a source for your dumbass astroturfing or just admit it’s dumbass astroturfing

What do you want a source for? Like what specifically don't you believe in?

Yeah, not like they haven’t had a decade without being invaded or bombed since the holocaust refugees arrived, and were then bombed.

They invented modern-day terrorism in the middle east, the first instances of carbombs was in Israel by Israeli terrorists and they threw people out of their ancestral homes. Cultural differences but I wouldn't want my new neighbors doing any of that.

The US gets bombed once and its calls dozens of nations into a multi year extermination of the extremist group that did it in the Middle East. Israel defends its territory against its neighbour that’s sole reason for government is to destroy Israel, and with a much lower civilian to combatant death ratio and its genocide.

The americans are pretty wacky as well, especially lately. But most of the hate they get from muslims is because they support Israel in all their crazy crimes against humanity and breaches against international laws. That's the stated motivation for 9/11.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

The claim that Jews are persecuted due to cultural reasons as you have repeatedly claimed you dumb fuck, Jesus why do I bother with you people when you can only argue at 6th grade literacy levels

Bullshit deflection and also blatantly untrue, the Jews are the native people. The state of Palestine was created in 1988. Jews have been living in Israel more than 1500 years before Islam was invented and the Arab conquest followed. The promised land of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, the recorded land boundaries 3000 years ago.

Israel’s crazy crimes against humanity lmfao, while Islam is the poster child for extremism the world over. Take a sex child slave, suicide bomb your neighbour, invade any population near you that’s not Islamic, these are all fully justified in the Quran and are regularly used. Honestly even attempting to state that just shows how much of a little farm troll you are, or maybe you’re just that brainwashed idk. Read a book and get some help

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Bullshit deflection and also blatantly untrue, the Jews are the native people. The state of Palestine was created in 1988. Jews have been living in Israel more than 1500 years before Islam was invented and the Arab conquest followed. The promised land of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, the recorded land boundaries 3000 years ago.

Lol, IDF confirmed. "Promised land" promised by who? You came into a country were people had lived for centuries and immediately began to steal property and carbomb the natives, sure the country was newly formed but the people had physically lived there for generations.

Israel’s crazy crimes against humanity lmfao, while Islam is the poster child for extremism the world over. Take a sex child slave, suicide bomb your neighbour, invade any population near you that’s not Islamic, these are all fully justified in the Quran and are regularly used. Honestly even attempting to state that just shows how much of a little farm troll you are, or maybe you’re just that brainwashed idk. Read a book and get some help

Yeah. Islam got a lot of bad going for it, a lot of bad people. I don't see how that justifies any of what Israel has done and are continuing to do. You have no moral high ground, it's just ethno-religious violence same as the worst of Islam.

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DoggyDoggChi@reddit

So anyone that wants their own country can just steal it and ethnically cleanse the natives?

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

The Jews are the natives. They have always lived there, at least 1500 years longer than Islam has even existed.

The holocaust refugees went there to join the existing Jewish community. It’s only when the refugees then got bombed by the Palestinians who didn’t want the refugees, that Zionism really kicked off as they realised they have to defend themselves. That’s not land grabbing, that’s self defense. They wouldn’t even be occupying the land they currently are if arabs didn’t keep using it to launch invasions on them.

The state of Palestine was created in 1988. Do some reading before you try regurgitate shitty little gotcha questions

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b_lurker@reddit

The people who formed Israel wasn’t people that Europe wanted to claim.

they were clearly their own people with their own culture that wasn’t always so easy to integrate.

Hebrew was a dead language before Europeans pogrom’d Jews into being fed up with constantly being massacred.

They were century old communities within their societies whether it was in Russia, France or anywhere in between. But because they believed in another religion they were always an “other” to you?

The early Zionists had to engineer and build an entire identity that they would indoctrinate as the central pillar of this new “Israel” exactly because this supposed “people” weren’t much of a people as much as they were simply believers of the same faith.

Is a Spaniard people with a pole because they are both catholic? What if they were both Jews?

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Hebrew was a dead language before Europeans pogrom’d Jews into being fed up with constantly being massacred.

I have a hard time believing that in every country they entered they just slipped on a banana peel or smt and got massacred.

They were century old communities within their societies whether it was in Russia, France or anywhere in between. But because they believed in another religion they were always an “other” to you?

Idk what was the deciding factor, but it's as you say. They had century old insular communities with traditions, and sometimes a lot of power/money. And they had been working internationally for centuries to try and get a homeland, preferably their old one. It's kinda like they had their own parallel society going on.

The early Zionists had to engineer and build an entire identity that they would indoctrinate as the central pillar of this new “Israel” exactly because this supposed “people” weren’t much of a people as much as they were simply believers of the same faith.

No doubt, but it didn't just spring up from nothing. And there apparently weren't enough good people around to stop it from becoming the norm and a foundational building block for their nation once they finally managed to get it.

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Paradoxjjw@reddit

I have a hard time believing that in every country they entered they just slipped on a banana peel or smt and got massacred.

Spend 5 seconds into looking at modern politics. Even to this day there are large groups of people shoving blame for everything onto minority groups despite us literally having access to data showing they aren't at fault. Now go back to a time when people don't know shit, you fully believe in an all powerful god that will punish you if you step out of line. Is it really so hard to believe that when something bad happens the first people to get shit flung at them are the groups that don't worship that vengeful all powerful god? If even in the modern day people can't stop themselves from shitting on minorities for things that aren't their fault, why is it so hard to believe people without access to even 1% of the knowledge and data you do now would do the same?

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lordcaylus@reddit

...you have a hard time believing that anytime anything goes wrong in a country people look for a scapegoat and minorities are a convenient one?

Could you please explain how the European Jews deserved the various pogroms, in your view?

Let's take the Rhineland massacre for instance.

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Sufficient_astrobird@reddit

So now Palestinians get to do the same right?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/experts-hail-icj-declaration-illegality-israels-presence-occupied

The landmark ruling of 19 July 2024 declared that Israel’s occupation of the Gaza strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, is unlawful, along with the associated settlement regime, annexation and use of natural resources. The Court added that Israel's legislation and measures violate the international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. The ICJ mandated Israel to end its occupation, dismantle its settlements, provide full reparations to Palestinian victims and facilitate the return of displaced people.

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East_Turnip_6366@reddit

Untangling what is supposed to be done about current day Israel, idk were to start. Seems like horrible people all around doing horrible things to one another.

But yeah a starting point in that discussion is that Israel holds most of the cards and they don't seem to care at all about international laws or human dignity. Maybe now with US relations breaking down everyone can just recognize that Israel should probably be treated on the same level as Iran and not as some kind of honorary european country, bastion of democracy in the middle east.

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kindablackishpanther@reddit

It's always funny when Europeans get offended by this line of thinking as if it wasn't the Germans who destroyed half of Europe and tried to wipe out all the Jews.

They will simultaneously say it was wrong while also justifying stealing someone else's home and causing a holocaust for him there in the Middle East. It's shameful to see this mentality still persist.

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Paradoxjjw@reddit

It's why I maintain that Israel should've been carved out of Germany post WW2. If you're going to make space for the Jews in response to WW2, do it to the people who made that necessary in the first place.

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jdorm111@reddit

You're completely denying the fact that many jews already lived in what is now Israel, among them former migrants who were there from the 19th century already, buying land (not stealing it), completely denying also the link the jews have with the region of Palestine and completely denying the work of Jews on the ground, their wishes and their efforts in building that country.

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Paradoxjjw@reddit

Before the UK took control of the levant from the Ottoman Empire and set up the british mandate in 1922 there were ~84000 Jews in that area, or 60000 in 1918. Jewish migration in the 19th century really wasn't as big as you try to make it seem.

Also, did you know that the majority of Israeli jews have no historical links to Europe?

2.8 million ashkenazim (central Europe), 1.4 million sephardic (Iberia). That's more than half the Jewish population of Israel. Unless you redefine Iberia as not being European, Jews with historical ties to Europe are the majority.

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jdorm111@reddit

You are right with your last point - they are the largest group. I stand corrected.

My point wasn't that it was a huge group, my point was that the Jews had a connection with the land and this idea that they should've just gotten a part of Germany is, frankly, dumb. I don't deny Arab grievances, they have grievances that should be adressed, but the notion jews have no right to the land and the implication that Israel is illegitimate is not the way to go. Neither is the complete removal of any agency and seeing Israel, whose founding history is very complex and in no way did they have full US and UK support all the time at the time, as just some western colonial outpost or something.

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nothingpersonnelmate@reddit

Jews in Palestine had a right to self-determination, just like all the other peoples of the region, and with that comes the right to allow migration into the lands you own.

I'm not sure about this one. Do Mexican immigrants in the US have the right to themselves allow more immigrants to the regions they live in, until they reach a demographic majority, at which point they can declare independence? Do Israeli Arabs have the right to encourage and enable Palestinians to migrate to Israel and then later declare a new country within Israel, including hundreds of thousands of Jewish Israelis within their borders? Frankly I'd expect this approach to trigger a war just about anywhere in the world, at any point in history. Israel themselves I would expect to level entire cities at the very suggestion.

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Rurian@reddit

On the contrary, it is not a dumb comment at all. Yes, Jews have always lived in the Levant and were welcome, too. The problem is when you use slogans such as "A land without people for a people without a land" to ethnically cleanse a land that did actually have people in it, and make a population that had nothing to do with WWII (and were and are always welcoming of Jews and non-Jews alike) pay for the crimes of the West. This was the West's debt, that they never had to pay and is currently leading us to another wave of fascism.
If it stayed at buying land, there would not have been a problem. The big problem started with mass murder. Deir Yassin, Tantura, and when Ben Gurion and his fellow (self-proclaimed) terrorist paramilitary groups started wiping out the population (plan D) to create an ethnostate.
Also, did you know that the majority of Israeli Jews that have no historical links to Europe were brought there by means of terrorism from the surrounding countries? There was no problem for Israel in killing a couple hundred Jews including Rabbis to populate the land they emptied by force. Here is one of many examples demonstrated by a Rabbi whose family was forced to move to Israel. Interesting watch if you have the time.

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jdorm111@reddit

All the buzzwords, all the distortions of history, only ever mentioning Jewish crimes and no mention of the murders perpetrated by the Arabs during Ottoman times. They were one hundred percent not welcoming of jews and most zionist knew there were people there, just spouting a slogan does not prove anything.

The idea that Ben Gurion started 'wiping out' the population is completely bizarre. 20 percent of Israels population today is Arab Muslim. As is the notion that ME jews came to Israel because of terrorism - they were ethnically cleansed from those countries following the founding of Israel. Why didn't they ethnically cleanse everyone following Israels founding?

The notion that Israel is merely the product of the Holocaust and the west wanting to settle their debt is ridiculous. The US had no debt to settle - why did they support Partition? Why did it take a lot of convincing the UK before they agreed to partition? The answer is because they didn't want an arab uprising in their backyard. It took an enormous amount of convincing many countries in the west before they agreed to partition, their support was not clear cut at all and you would have known this had you known anything about the history of the founding of Israel besides buzzwords and ideology. The Zionists just happened to be better at lobbying than the Arabs, who were unhelpfully resorting to threats of violence and war the whole time - which they than put into practice in '48 and lost.

Of course the Holocaust was important, but so were the efforts of Jews in Palestine, fighting for their own self-determination, maybe even more so. You just gloss over that and reduce it to them wanting to wipe all others out. Again, why is 20 percent Arab muslim? Why didn't they finish the job?

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Rurian@reddit

My dude you complain about buzzwords but produce a wordsalad with no sources. All of your arguments are described in the two documentaries + the interview, with historical sources from Western, Arab and Israeli sources. Give those a watch and factcheck before writing a wall of hasbara.
In regards to the 'complexity' of Israel's founding, it's pretty straightforward if you can trim off the rampant disinformation. White imperial colonialism. Yes, Jews deserve to live in the Levant or anywhere for that matter. They deserve the right to self-determination and religious freedom but no more than any other people, and not at the cost of oppression.
As for your point on Jews being unwelcome during Ottoman times, you are aware that Jews in Europe had their golden age under Ottoman rule, and they were at peace with Christian and Muslims alike in the Levant? This was only ever a white European issue, and the vast majority never wanted to move to Israel in the first place.

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jdorm111@reddit

My source is, among others, the book 1948 by Benny Morris. You should read it.

This was my point: all those white western colonial nations were not of one mind regarding Jewish independence. That makes your narrative of Israel being just white colonialism so ridiculous and simplistic. It is, frankly, untrue, as are all the bizarre accusations at early zionists expense while leaving out the rampant Arab-on-Jew violence of those early years.

I won't debate someone who speaks about 'trimming off' and can only use words like 'white imperial colonialism' to describe highly complex historical events.

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Rurian@reddit

You call everything ridiculous and historical untrue, but you are aware that many of the things I have mentioned come from Ben Gurion himself?
Also yes, you should get rid of disinformation, regardless of the idiom used.
Everything is highly complex when you're hiding the truth, but the truth does tend to come out eventually - especially when prominent Israeli figures have been screaming their intent from rooftops since the early 20th century.

I'll read the book, but it'd do you good to check the above documentaries as well.

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nothingpersonnelmate@reddit

The people who carved out Israel were themselves the Jewish refugees from the holocaust and the pre-WW2 Jewish migrants. Neither group would have been willing to move to a new state bordering Germany after the holocaust.

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CalligoMiles@reddit

The elephant in the room of survivors who'd just seen even the most tolerant countries deny them entry and force them back to Germany aside, more than half of those immigrants were the forcefully displaced indigenous Jews from the Arab world around the time of Israel's founding. They never even got the choice to stay.

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Ashenveiled@reddit

check the amount of people who moved to israel from arabian countries my dude. and check why they moved out.

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gofishx@reddit

Zionism was a very fringe ideology prior to the holocaust, most jews preferred to fight for their rights where they lived (and fighting for these rights is part of how they got associated with communism, leftism, etc). Without the holocaust, there might have still been a Tel Aviv, and maybe a Jewish autonomous region of Palestine, but certainly not an Israel.

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Roxylius@reddit

Literal jewish holocaust survivor are calling israel facist

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DelaraPorter@reddit

Who knew that spending so much time Europe caused some acculturation among them

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destroyerx12772@reddit

Care to argue?

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

The holocaust was good news?

Fuck off Nazi, crazy to see how much this supports outright antisemitism and hate speech

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Leather-Paramedic-10@reddit (OP)

The current Israeli government seems to be considered far-right as well.

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Xper10@reddit

From lsraeIi point of view Orban is faaar left. Frames kmof reference etc..

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teslawhaleshark@reddit

It's a form of Ruscism, more advanced than fascism

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_Benutzername_@reddit

At this point it's pretty clear that they're committing a genocide. It's still crazy to see how far Netanyahu is willing to go to save his ass from court

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Daryno90@reddit

I’m not, people like Netanyahu are sociopaths, they don’t care how much suffering they are causing as long as they are safe. We can only hope the bastard will eventually face punishment for what he did

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Common5enseExtremist@reddit

but if i say that Zionist elites are playing all major political sides i get called an anti semitic conspiracy theorist.

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Daryno90@reddit

When you want to present your country as the “only safe place for Jews” what better way of doing that than helping prop up antisemitic into positions of power across the world

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sr_edits@reddit

Except the main source of antisemitism nowadays is not the far right.

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mnmkdc@reddit

It absolutely is. I understand you’re referencing the pro Palestine protests, but most of the people there are not antisemitic and the ones that go specifically because they’re antisemitic are generally not left wing.

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sr_edits@reddit

Maybe that's the situation in the US, but here in Europe the main promoters of antisemitism are Muslim immigrants and the leftist parties who either support them or close an eye on it.

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mnmkdc@reddit

That’s how it is pretty much everywhere. We see places like Germany with AfD mimicking the early stages of Nazis too. Also Muslim immigrants are generally relatively conservative.

The big issue is that you probably view all pro Palestine stuff as antisemitic so your view is completely skewed

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kindablackishpanther@reddit

Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson reading Das Kapital now?

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

I thought this sub believed that Jews were in control of the US government? Which is it?

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CharmCityKid09@reddit

Most of them are just undercover fascists. Casting "Zionists" as both strong enough to control the US government but somehow so weak that they think an assortment of terrorists groups would beat them.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

It’s not even undercover, the top reply to this comment chain is literally stating the holocaust was a good thing. My comment pointing this out got hidden.

I wonder which political groups also used echo chambers to promote hate speech as acceptable, hmmm

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blazerz@reddit

Lmao what, can you link the comment that states that the Holocaust was a good thing?

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime_titties/s/gZAiqxebIB

I stated it is the top response to this comment chain, is scrolling up too hard

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blazerz@reddit

They did not remotely say that the holocaust was a good thing, only that it put forward a case for Israel.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

“European antisemitism is good news for Israel”

Why is it good news? Because more Jews will be attacked again and immigrate? Why was it good when the holocaust occurred? There wasn’t even a Zionist movement until the holocaust, and some refugees made it to the Jewish communities in Palestine just to get bombed.

The mental gymnastics and dog whistling with you people is crazy

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blazerz@reddit

There wasn’t even a Zionist movement until the holocaust,

Wrong, Zionism started in the 1880s.

some refugees made it to the Jewish communities in Palestine just to get bombed.

Zionist militias were the ones to cast the first stone before Hitler had any power.

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

Damn I wonder why they waited until after the holocaust, when millions of refugees couldnt find refuge and the refugees in Palestine that were buying the land, got bombed because Palestine didn’t want immigrants.

Crazy coincidence or mental gymnastics? Who knows

Sure thing buddy, that must be why the bombings were specifically targeting the refugees, and the Palestinians themselves loudly stated that the general strike turned pogrom was due to the refugees.

Leaning towards mental gymnastics

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blazerz@reddit

Yeah right, I'm the one doing mental gymnastics.

When it is you who's picking one incident out of a decades long conflict?

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

You mean the incident that’s generally agreed to be the start of Zionism and relevant to the topic? Dumbass get outta here

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kindablackishpanther@reddit

With Hasbara like this, who needs enemies?

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Daryno90@reddit

Truly the words from someone talking out of their own ass. The far right is absolutely the main contributor to antisemitism

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iordseyton@reddit

Ever since the right embraced religious conservatives, they've become pro -jew, (or at leeat jewish nimby) since Armageddon is predicated by jews owning the 'holy land.'

I'm convinced it really is that dumb

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Paradoxjjw@reddit

They're not pro-Jew. They're pro-Israel, those are two different things, even if Israel wants you to believe otherwise. Their open embrace of far right antisemitic groups proves as much.

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Daryno90@reddit

I believe Netanyahu said that the evangelical Christian are their strongest supporters so I can believe that

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

Ah so the far right is simultaneously the antisemites and pro-Jew? Hilarious seeing you all engage and agree on these mental gymnastics

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Daryno90@reddit

They don’t support Jews, they support Israel because it’s an ethnostate and that’s what they want. A place to send all of the Jews too. Generally speaking, fascists like other fascist s

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JIMMY_JAMES007@reddit

Ah yes, Israel are the facists, let’s just ignore Hamas threatening and executing their own citizens whenever they start to protest and that they haven’t held an election since they were voted in. (Mental gymnastics)

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Daryno90@reddit

Yes, they literally are you dumbass, have you not seen the shit them been doing the Palestinians. They are literally committing ethnic cleansing and using trump to push for the forced removal of 2 million Palestinians from Gaza while they are stealing more land from the West Bank and terrorizing the native inhabitants there. They are also subjecting Palestinian detainees to torture and sexual violence. What part of that doesn’t scream fascist, you fuckin idiot

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FlyingVolvo@reddit

Is that why Likud is going around cozying up to parties in Europe that the Jews who live in the country that the party is in absolutely refuse to associate with and openly distance themselves from? There's plenty of antisemitism to go around, but let's not pretend like it's a equal distribution.

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teslawhaleshark@reddit

Bibi actually respects strongmen of the world

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tihs_si_learsi@reddit

Zionists and antisemites are actually big friends. Israel needs more Jews to expand its colonial project. And there's no better way of convincing Jews to move to Israel than to make them feel unsafe in their home countries. Zionism is an all-consuming cult that has no regard for the destruction it causes in pursuit of its hatred.

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