Pretty sure the standard for most "incels" is just being a woman that's not morbidly obese, but they can't even get that.
The 1/10 dudes wanting a 10/10 girl is maybe like 5% of them but people (if women are to be considered as such) like to focus on a small minority to avoid addressing the actual problem of fucked up dating scene.
one of the biggest fuckboys i know is a 5”5 fat Malaysian muslim guy who wears dragon ball and naruto shirts, they really just aren’t trying hard enough
One of the biggest fuckboys I know is a guy of similar height who weighs 50kg and has a down syndrome face, but that guy knows how to talk to women, which many don't.
(Ps: if anyone wants to learn how to fucking do that message me, I'll send you a link)
addressing the actual problem of fucked up dating scene.
And how are you supposed to adress that problem? Make arranged marriages great again? Forbid dating apps? Force women into sex slave concentration camps?
"I just want to openly discuss using state violence to relegate you to second class citizens, specifically with the goal of sexual and reproductive exploitation against your will, why are you freaking out"
We can talk all day about the dating scene all you want. What im saying is theres no way to "fix it" because people have free will. Yes, that includes women.
We could nationalize the dating apps. Change their objective from extracting the maximum amount of money from men as possible to create as many highly compatible, long-lasting relationships as possible.
When a 3 keeps left-swiping 9s the app can intervene and say, Look, you have unrealistic expectations.
Social media has warped people into monsters. Facebook knows how to make teens suicidal. It knows how to convince people to buy shit they don't want and can't afford. The power of social media can be put to use for good too. People are malleable. Public opinion is writ to order. If Russians or Usury-Americans can do half the shit this website talks about then a nationalized dating app could easily steer women into accepting men who only bring an equal amount to the table as them.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'd say the lack of social skills is just as hard to overcome as being incel due to looks. Anyone can lose weight or gain muscle. We even have drugs to help you gain muscle, drugs to give you clear skin, and drugs to stop balding.
Very few incels are legitimate "truecels" who's looks prevent them from ever getting sex. Most of them just look boring. However if you didn't develop the ability to have conversations and charisma early on it becomes an uphill battle. Asking out all the girls in the world won't help them if all they can do is approach and autisticly say "hi I'm John Doe, wanna go out" without any ability to make small talk.
If a person could autistically find a girl who shares some hobby with them, then they can just bond over the hobby. If the incel literally has no friends and doesn't know how to make any, he should probably start with learning how to do that first.
Honestly these days he could just make a post and ask for suggestions and try something till it starts working. All you really need to make a friend is having one thing in common and enjoy talking every now and then. Compared to a relationship is it much lower stakes.
Pretty sure the standard for most "incels" is just being a woman that's not morbidly obese and doesn't despise their very existence, but they can't even get that.
You can't forget "virgin". But not "religious virgin", because they're not waiting for marriage to get some, that's a sucker's game.
True for most incels as well. They refuse to go for the women that are actually within their reach, saying they're 'too fat' or 'too ugly' or 'a direct blood relative'.
no, they hate themselves so much that they can not accept other people into their life. the high standards are just a front to not face the reality that they suck and need to better themselves, because that would put the onus of "effort" on them and the reason they are in this situation in the first place is that they have been lazy with enough other parts of their life that it is more convenient to just exist in a perpetual, comfortable status quo where they can not be hurt and don't hurt themselves.
Roastie, this is clearly the wrong subreddit for you, given your comments all over this thread. I think you've gotten a bit lost, twoX-chromosome is that way.
Do you ever consider that you don't lend to your own credence, though? That the tunnel vision is what makes people think of you like that? I'm sympathetic for it and know what it's like to be singled out all the fucking time over small disagreements but you gotta know it's never just one problem. To quote Assassin's Creed, "There is no knowing. Always expect to have overlooked something."
Eh, anon kinda has a point. Still, the one thing i never hear in the whole “do femcels exist?” debate is the fact that by definition, femcels aren’t female incels.
Yeah. In my opinion the base difference would be that femcels hate men and are “emotionally” lonely( e.g. they can’t find love but could easily have casual sex) while incels can’t get laid at all.
He wasn't saying female incels don't exist. He is saying that most women calling themselves femcels are unable to find a relationship that meets their standard, rather than being unable to get laid.
... My dude she and many other women have mental disorders that make it extremely difficult for them. Like anxiety stops people from leaving the house lol
that my dream gf if a men was fat+ugly and had a few mental problems and you put him in front of 1000 women none would go for him now put the same but instead of a men its a woman and instead of 1000 women its 1000 men atleast 100 of those men would 100% go for it and atleast 10 of those 1000 men would want a long term relationship
Most "femcels" are either just pick-me girls or 'roons. There ARE actual female incels (eg. Tophiachu), but they don't actually call themselves femcels.
somehuman16@reddit
99.99% of all incels/femcels dont exist. theyre all actually volcels who dont take personal accountability
bartholomewjohnson@reddit (OP)
Or have way too high standards
Mig15Hater@reddit
Pretty sure the standard for most "incels" is just being a woman that's not morbidly obese, but they can't even get that.
The 1/10 dudes wanting a 10/10 girl is maybe like 5% of them but people (if women are to be considered as such) like to focus on a small minority to avoid addressing the actual problem of fucked up dating scene.
GodAmongstYakubians@reddit
one of the biggest fuckboys i know is a 5”5 fat Malaysian muslim guy who wears dragon ball and naruto shirts, they really just aren’t trying hard enough
Mig15Hater@reddit
One of the biggest fuckboys I know is a guy of similar height who weighs 50kg and has a down syndrome face, but that guy knows how to talk to women, which many don't.
(Ps: if anyone wants to learn how to fucking do that message me, I'll send you a link)
NewLifeToEurop@reddit
I am be love to learn the better way to talk into woman and am to be want the link.
It is not to be easy for me to be to date in German because I am Turkish living in German and many German is to be racist to Turkish.
Minimum_Switch4237@reddit
are you the guy who smears poop everywhere
Timpstar@reddit
Yeah but then again they are usually stinky, entitled and equate being kind to being owed a chance.
The dating scene is not fucked up.
Mig15Hater@reddit
Flair checks out
Timpstar@reddit
Atleast I don't use le reddit heckin' downdoot button whenever my butthole feels threatened lol
Pretend-Charge5029@reddit
i do it cause its really easy and i dont like what you said
Timpstar@reddit
Weak
Mekosaurus_Rexus@reddit
And how are you supposed to adress that problem? Make arranged marriages great again? Forbid dating apps? Force women into sex slave concentration camps?
KennyGaming@reddit
Ability to discuss the interesting sociology without freaking out would be a good start. Chill out
Iron-Fist@reddit
"I just want to openly discuss using state violence to relegate you to second class citizens, specifically with the goal of sexual and reproductive exploitation against your will, why are you freaking out"
RawketPropelled37@reddit
Can always tell
Mekosaurus_Rexus@reddit
We can talk all day about the dating scene all you want. What im saying is theres no way to "fix it" because people have free will. Yes, that includes women.
RawketPropelled37@reddit
First step to "fixing" it would be to acknowledge how ass it is for men.
But simps like you don't want that, so even acknowledging it must mean you want women to be imprisoned and forcibly impregnated.
Hope she sees this bro
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
We could nationalize the dating apps. Change their objective from extracting the maximum amount of money from men as possible to create as many highly compatible, long-lasting relationships as possible.
When a 3 keeps left-swiping 9s the app can intervene and say, Look, you have unrealistic expectations.
Social media has warped people into monsters. Facebook knows how to make teens suicidal. It knows how to convince people to buy shit they don't want and can't afford. The power of social media can be put to use for good too. People are malleable. Public opinion is writ to order. If Russians or Usury-Americans can do half the shit this website talks about then a nationalized dating app could easily steer women into accepting men who only bring an equal amount to the table as them.
Mekosaurus_Rexus@reddit
Holy fuck mate. You're describing an authoritarian hell.
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
rWitchesVsPatriarchy malding at the thought of looksmatching.
RawketPropelled37@reddit
Yes
Mig15Hater@reddit
Yes.
ProtoLibturd@reddit
Like all three of your suggestions. Keep going.
NegativeScythe@reddit
Most incels probably have only gotten rejected by two girls in their lives, if that.
battery_acid_10@reddit
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'd say the lack of social skills is just as hard to overcome as being incel due to looks. Anyone can lose weight or gain muscle. We even have drugs to help you gain muscle, drugs to give you clear skin, and drugs to stop balding.
Very few incels are legitimate "truecels" who's looks prevent them from ever getting sex. Most of them just look boring. However if you didn't develop the ability to have conversations and charisma early on it becomes an uphill battle. Asking out all the girls in the world won't help them if all they can do is approach and autisticly say "hi I'm John Doe, wanna go out" without any ability to make small talk.
peenfortress@reddit
pretty sure they also stop yer dick working
battery_acid_10@reddit
Yes the others I mentioned also have potential side effects. That's the risk you take when you use drugs.
NegativeScythe@reddit
If a person could autistically find a girl who shares some hobby with them, then they can just bond over the hobby. If the incel literally has no friends and doesn't know how to make any, he should probably start with learning how to do that first.
AlarmedShower@reddit
I mean this is easier said than done, though.
NegativeScythe@reddit
Honestly these days he could just make a post and ask for suggestions and try something till it starts working. All you really need to make a friend is having one thing in common and enjoy talking every now and then. Compared to a relationship is it much lower stakes.
battery_acid_10@reddit
Agreed. But my point is that's more difficult than becoming good looking and it's not even close.
NegativeScythe@reddit
Yes if you are profoundly ugly and socially inept, you are going to have to go on craig's list to find a spouse. I agree.
sternold@reddit
You can't forget "virgin". But not "religious virgin", because they're not waiting for marriage to get some, that's a sucker's game.
Futureman999@reddit
There's always somebody so repulsive and desperate they'll even fuck you
back_reggin@reddit
True for most incels as well. They refuse to go for the women that are actually within their reach, saying they're 'too fat' or 'too ugly' or 'a direct blood relative'.
cosplay-degenerate@reddit
no, they hate themselves so much that they can not accept other people into their life. the high standards are just a front to not face the reality that they suck and need to better themselves, because that would put the onus of "effort" on them and the reason they are in this situation in the first place is that they have been lazy with enough other parts of their life that it is more convenient to just exist in a perpetual, comfortable status quo where they can not be hurt and don't hurt themselves.
Anon_1492-1776@reddit
I don't get the analogy?
ouroborically@reddit
Don't forget the eighteen bajillion and some times people just throw around "incel" every day now if you even slightly disagree with them
BlueRibbonWhiteBread@reddit
Criticise women ever so slightly on the Internet these days and either a white knight or a roastie will hit you with the incel tag
Iron-Fist@reddit
Maybe because you shouldn't be criticizing half the population as a monolith?
DotherOfLife@reddit
damn! you really should your merit in the comment section! Im sure the wife will be so proud and will let you watch this time
somehuman16@reddit
this is why you get called an incel
DotherOfLife@reddit
105k reddit karma
I cannot explain how little your opinion means to me
Please_Dial8@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
somehuman16@reddit
this is why you get called an incel
Please_Dial8@reddit
cope
Please_Dial8@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
Mig15Hater@reddit
Roastie, this is clearly the wrong subreddit for you, given your comments all over this thread. I think you've gotten a bit lost, twoX-chromosome is that way.
somehuman16@reddit
yeah im sure you criticize women "slightly"
thinking a man will only defend a woman for sex
yeah no wonder why they call you incel
Chadzuma@reddit
Exhibit A appears in under 3 hours
ouroborically@reddit
Do you ever consider that you don't lend to your own credence, though? That the tunnel vision is what makes people think of you like that? I'm sympathetic for it and know what it's like to be singled out all the fucking time over small disagreements but you gotta know it's never just one problem. To quote Assassin's Creed, "There is no knowing. Always expect to have overlooked something."
power899@reddit
Bruh just quoted one of the mid games of all time 😭
ouroborically@reddit
White guilt infests your prose
Futureman999@reddit
there's that incel talk again..
ouroborically@reddit
hahaha
collegetest35@reddit
“You can move the world with a large enough lever so to say the world is immovable is a lie, actually”
QFB-procrastinator@reddit
Eh, anon kinda has a point. Still, the one thing i never hear in the whole “do femcels exist?” debate is the fact that by definition, femcels aren’t female incels.
KennyGaming@reddit
To be sure, you’re disagreeing with the “involuntary” aspect of their status right?
QFB-procrastinator@reddit
Yeah. In my opinion the base difference would be that femcels hate men and are “emotionally” lonely( e.g. they can’t find love but could easily have casual sex) while incels can’t get laid at all.
Iron-Fist@reddit
Literally the term incel was invented by a woman... She was incel due to mental problems, a very common rationale for inceldom...
demonryder@reddit
He wasn't saying female incels don't exist. He is saying that most women calling themselves femcels are unable to find a relationship that meets their standard, rather than being unable to get laid.
Iron-Fist@reddit
... My dude she and many other women have mental disorders that make it extremely difficult for them. Like anxiety stops people from leaving the house lol
lucasthebr2121@reddit
that my dream gf if a men was fat+ugly and had a few mental problems and you put him in front of 1000 women none would go for him now put the same but instead of a men its a woman and instead of 1000 women its 1000 men atleast 100 of those men would 100% go for it and atleast 10 of those 1000 men would want a long term relationship
KennyGaming@reddit
Thanks for clarification
encrustingXacro@reddit
FVLSENVKE
y0nderYak@reddit
"Do you get it" andrew tate ass line
mikestorm@reddit
I have ants. Will I be okay?
NevGuy@reddit
I volunteer to be the professional pest control.
Andrew852456@reddit
She will be really attached to her ants too, despite them taking apart her house
IgotAseaView@reddit
How big are the ants
Andrew852456@reddit
About ant sized
The_Failord@reddit
bartholomewjohnson@reddit (OP)
Have the anteaters infiltrated Reddit?
Grimmush@reddit
encrustingXacro@reddit
Most "femcels" are either just pick-me girls or 'roons. There ARE actual female incels (eg. Tophiachu), but they don't actually call themselves femcels.
White-Monkey2407@reddit
Femcel posers FUCK OFF
_Rook_Castle@reddit
"I dressed like a slut and nobody wanted to take me home tonight, guess I'm involuntary celebate." - ☕
bartholomewjohnson@reddit (OP)
Honestly this may apply to male incels too