Dead 9800X3D's in AsRock Boards
Posted by StarskyNHutch862@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 282 comments
So I been following the AsRock sub since I bought my setup a little while ago, I ended up with a Gigabyte X870 wifi 7 elite which has ran absolutely fine since I got it a few months ago. Anyways, I been following this dead chips saga and witnessing AsRock continue to deny they have done anything wrong along with the users in their sub who keep recommending these boards to poor customers who end up with a dead chip within 3 months.
Just in the last 24 hours there's FOUR dead 9800's.
9800x3D dead on B850i lightning for no reason : r/ASRock
9800x3d dead on B850 Riptide? : r/ASRock
9800X3D dead on X870E nova : r/ASRock
That's just the last 24 hours. There's hundreds more and it's always after like a month or two possibly three. What pisses me off is people are spending 500 dollars on these chips, and getting recommended these boards that are without a shadow of a doubt killing these chips by some kind of overvolting situation. AsRock has denied any culpability in the matter and are blaming it entirely on AMD, meanwhile if you visit any of the other brands subreddit you won't find a dead 9800 post a day that keeps the fucking Dr away.
It's really agitating to see their users continue to deny the reality. Gamernexus needs to dive back into this situation because it's really getting wild.
I could post a dozen or more links easily right now. Stop recommending these boards to people for everyone's sake.
0x-existsonline@reddit
Had no idea about this I did some research and AsRock seemed like one of the best choices. I'm running a B650 steel legend with the 9800x3d for 5 months now without problems except that even with good cooling i'm having trouble keeping the temps that good.
Is it happening for people when they overclock or just randomly? Should I buy a new motherboard or am I maybe fine since its been 5 months? Having to pay for a new mobo right now would kinda suck...
edy0324@reddit
I'm sorry to say this but you won't know until it happens to you. It kinda sucks having to pay such a high price for the 9800X3D only to always have that fear in the back of your mind.
I think it's kinda random at this point. I hope you wont have to deal with it.
0x-existsonline@reddit
Thanks for the clarification. That's rough for sure but I guess i'll take my chances for now as motherboards that are good are pretty pricey where i'm at.
edy0324@reddit
Yeah, best of luck!
mana-addict4652@reddit
I'm building a PC for a friend, for the first time in ages and it was already a pain in the ass with the shortages and all the bloody chipsets to compare
Learning about this is another pain in the ass, another anxiety to add to the list for such overpriced components.
edy0324@reddit
The X3D will always be overpriced when new. Don't even bother about trying other mobo brands because this issue has been spotted in other brands too. You won't have peace of mind until they figure this out.
Just like how AMD fans were making fan of Intel for the degradation. It's kinda ironic how this issue makes it a hard pill for them to swallow. See how their so quite and ratty abouy this issue? Yeah, coz it's shameful how they have been acting these past few years only to have it happen to their patron god AMD 🤣
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Just buy any other brand maybe steer clear from ASUS as well.
Deathbed_Companion@reddit
It's insane!
I can't believe people aren't making a bigger deal about this. Gamers Nexus made a short video but didn't do any kind of testing or anything.
I am glad circumstances worked out in that I ended up with a Gigabyte x870 Aorus Elite board.
9800x3d was still really hard to find back in early Feb. So I snatched up a newegg bundle. I didn't want a white motherboard but oh well. At least it won't kill my 9800x3d.
Seriously someone with means and techical expertise needs to investigate this and determine a root cause. It's been months it's fucking insane it's still happening
I about spit out my coffee when I saw Asrock paraded out a single example of a dirty socket and tried to say everyone should clean their sockets lol. Ignoring the 100 or more cases of this issue at this point.
noitamrofnisim@reddit
I can believe why ppl dont make it bigger... because its amd fucking up and not intel... the brigade is working overtime
IronLordSamus@reddit
Or you know the majority of failures seem to be on one brand of motherboard versus others.
noitamrofnisim@reddit
Ashrock being the majority of am5 mobo sold makes them responsible for all 9800x3d blowing up? Explain this plz
edy0324@reddit
Apparently, it's not jusr AsRock. It has been spotted in other brands and chipset as well.
Uh oh. Seems like it's even worse than Intel eh? 🤣
Now 9800X3D users are going to have to worry about this.
AMD is not so perfect now eh? Best gaming CPU. Best at burning as well.
bunkSauce@reddit
Anyone have an opinion on what the best motherboard right now would be for a development/gaming rig for a 9950x3d? The batch my CPU was made in has had 0 failures - and money should not be considered a factor in this case. I just want to buy the best option and it seems this issue is happening on almost all mobos. What is the flagship at the moment for AM5? And what is the closest to flagship that has not seen a failure?
I'm suspecting this issue may be on the CPU end, but my batch hasn't had a reported failure.
FuryxHD@reddit
i wonder how many of these watched some pbo video and set the scaler to 10x
DentyClown@reddit
I ordered a B850 LiveMixer and a 9950x3d. Should I stick with it or return the mobo once it arrives and get something else?
ArtdesignImagination@reddit
9800x3d choips are burning in all motherboards brands, and other CPU aren`t. The common denominator is the 9800x3d, not asrock. Seems to me that they are blaming AMD for a reason.
z3n0mal4@reddit
Wouldn't wanna be in their shoes, but for statistics purpose i run my system (X870E Taichi Lite + 9800X3D) since 4th december with no issues. It's my first ASRock board in 25 years.
Tasty_Toast_Son@reddit
ASRock has always treated me very well. My Z77 Extreme 4, B560M Pro 4 and my friend's B550 Extreme 4 have all been nothing but perfect experiences.
RuckFeddi7@reddit
But what about other motherboards? Are we possibly seeing more failures from ASRock simply because... more people buy ASRock brands?
Henrarzz@reddit
I’ve seen two new posts on AsRock subreddit about X3D CPU dying since this post was made lol
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Go read the comments... Every single post some AsRock top 1%er commenter will chime in how it's just an AMD issue and there's nothing to worry about. Almost like clockwork. I don't care for brands I just buy hardware, and if you are buying an Am5 chip steer the fuck clear from AsRock.
noitamrofnisim@reddit
You are very opinionated and in a mission to protect amd for some1 who has no stake in this game.
Brapplezz@reddit
This might be slightly off topic. But do we know the boards that killed the most 13th/14th gen CPUs ?
Also wasn't MSI cooking 7800x3ds at release too ? Throw in the nvidia release and Tech companies are just dropping the ball everywhere
signed7@reddit
Wasn't that ASUS
Theron3206@reddit
AFAIK it was everyone
Ravenesque91@reddit
They all were, ASUS got cooked with how they were handling it though.
Brapplezz@reddit
Idk man at this point it's been board manufacturers and CPU manufacturers in the last 2 years. Both Intel and AMD have had a lil too much drama lately. AMD saving themselves with goodwill(no one has that for Intel anymore, rightfully so)
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Id agree about dropping the ball everywhere. Nvidias new launch has been shit. I just know 13th/14th gen cook themselves in any board.
Pnollten@reddit
The motherboard market is weird. I was looking for an ITX board for my 9800X3D and these are the issues I found:
Asus B650E-I: Coilwhine and Ethernet issues. Gigabyte B850I: Enforced pcie port that can't fit riser cables properly. ASRock B850I and B650I: Kills the CPU.
The Asus X870-I is way too expensive, the Gigabyte B650I has a weird extender PCB and the Gigabyte X870I & MSI B650I don't fit my color scheme.
I felt forced to buy the Asus B850-I in the end because of all the issues with the other boards. Been working great for a week but I feel like I had way more options when I build my last PC in 2020.
Decent-Discipline636@reddit
This isn't just true about issues, it's also true with the specs of them... I want 2 pcie 5.0 running at least in 8x/8x, 6 sata and an exposed cmos battery (is this too much to ask ?? like who the fuck hides a REPLACEABLE battery underneath heatsinks that require me to dismantle everything to access ?) in the 500€ price range, and guess which is the only board to fit this criteria, the asrock x870e taichi lite (or biostar but who even knows them at the high end and the x670e taichi but the battery is half covered and it's 100€ more expensive somehow), nice, I'm stuck with asrock. Legit few years ago this was super easy to find.
None of what I'm listing is "insane" for the top of the line chipset and at this price, 2 high speed pcie was common, and sata probably takes nothing to have... It's fucking depressing.
SupaZT@reddit
I think mine maybe died today :( asrock b850i
dajolly@reddit
Sorry to hear that! I just built a new system with that same processor and board as you. Now I'm worried I'll see this same issue.
Did you see any symptoms of the failure? Or was it suddenly dead? Can you share what BIOS version you were using, and if you had PBO and/or EXPO enabled, or any custom overclock? I've hoping I'll be OK by just moving back to defaults for everything...
Jamesaya@reddit
My experience with asrock going back 15+ years is “they’re cheaper for a reason”
TenshiBR@reddit
Asrock was created by Asus as a way to sell cheaper boards. Then it was sold and changed hands many times... As far as I know, Asus is pretty much the owner again for a few years now. Although it keeps this information quiet.
We had a discussion about this some years ago. A poster which worked in the industry said that the top executives are all Asus guys.
All I could find: Established in 2002, it is owned by PEGATRON, a company part of the ASUS group.
gamebrigada@reddit
Asrock was never outside of the Asus conglomerate. They shoved Asrock under Pegatron in 2008 and that's about it. Pegatron does run almost entirely on its own, but they have always been under the Asus umbrella.
TenshiBR@reddit
thanks!
there were news in the past that Asus sold it and then re-acquired it, I guess they were rumors then
DOSBrony@reddit
Man, I went with my x670e Steel Legend BECAUSE Asrock seemed like the most reliable option. I don't plan on upgrading to the 9800x3d, but this does worry me about upgrading to whatever will be the last AM5 CPU when the time comes.
gamebrigada@reddit
You went with Asus's budget brand because you thought they were most reliable? What?
DOSBrony@reddit
Wdym? They broke away from them like... 15, 17 years ago?
gamebrigada@reddit
They got put under Pegatron, which is and always has been owned by Asus.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I'd definitely be cautious upgrading your cpu to anything high power in that AsRock board, although the 600 series seems to be less effected I posted more links and one includes a 600 board.
DOSBrony@reddit
Yeah, I'm not trying to diss you. It's important that these issues are brought to light, and you're doing a huge service to us by doing this. Maybe I'll swap the motherboard when the time comes, or just wait until AM6 and see what's good then.
advester@reddit
Check out this comment, they are tracking failures of certain cpu batches on all brand motherboards, not just AsRock.
natty_overlord@reddit
This is more up to date now, tracking all the cases on reddit with links, etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1i5iy9a/update_and_summary_on_the_dead_9800x3ds/
CompetitiveAutorun@reddit
Holy 107 dead 9800x3d and 85 of those from ASRock?
Why isn't this bigger news?
Jeep-Eep@reddit
The problem is on the CPU end, not the mainboard end; the rate of failure breaks down pretty cleanly on brand popularity. We've got like 3, maybe 4 batches with a higher then normal infantile failure rate.
CompetitiveAutorun@reddit
That's literally the first comment in this thread you are replying to. The one that has less data points.
I also looked at brand popularity in 2 popular polish shops (x-kom, morele), German mindfactory, Microcenter and Amazon and I see that gigabyte is extremely popular along with Asus and MSI. ASRock isn't as popular as people claim. ASRock is definitely over representing.
Look, if this was intel or Nvidia it would be huge news. I think people downplay it because it affects 2 brands that people like.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
To be fair, there is also another genuinely Asrock specific issue that seems to be recurring aside it, namely the brand's track record of being picky about RAM SKUs.
Maimakterion@reddit
Because an eceleb said it was user error.
slither378962@reddit
"15 out of thousands is normal."
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Is that supposed to make AsRock look better?
Recktion@reddit
Judging by how much ASRock mobos are oos vs the other brands. It looks like it may just be an even % that are dying with most people just having ASRock mobos and that's why they have the most CPU deaths.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I don't think so.
Recktion@reddit
They were highly recommended by certain techtuber(s) and mobos were perpetually OOS when I was looking at getting a mobo. Every other company was readily available.
There's no objective data, true. But looking at the clues it's asinine to claim they didn't sell very well, at least better than what they prepared for.
Sarin10@reddit
look on Amazon. asrock's main x870 has 182 reviews. gigabyte's has 751 reviews. the same trend holds up for x670 (just to give another data point).
So what numerical evidence do you have that asrock sold more than any other board maker?
Recktion@reddit
Newegg shows a different story. ASRock has the most AM5 reviews.
It's really speculation
Is it really different than OP using people's personal examples of ASRock killing CPUs?
Jeep-Eep@reddit
It's Asus that gives it away, it's a marque with a strong following and sure enough, the second worse failure rate of chips. I am strongly in a 'dodgy batches' school now.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Show me data.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Looking at the second in line, the long standing Asus fandom... yeah, it looks it.
Alamandaros@reddit
The problem with something like this is no one has data for the distribution of different mobos among 9800X3D owners. If ASRock boards were vastly more popular than other brands, then you'd expect to see a higher number of failures on ASRock boards if there's a problem with the CPU.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Exactly yet AsRock sympathizers keep pretending like AsRock sells so many more boards than everyone else wonder why that is?
Gman1255@reddit
You are trying to start a motherboard war that no one asked for.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
lmao ok. That's your argument?
JuanElMinero@reddit
Their point is that your behaviour is excessively tribal and contious, which is one of those things that won't win you any favors here, even when being right.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Really cause I don't have a favorite brand. Unlike the people denying AsRock has an issue. Enjoy your dead chips.
JuanElMinero@reddit
I don't own AsRock or plan on buying one.
This is the kind of talk that earns you the all the downvotes, in case you're wondering again.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Forgive me for wanting to save people money and trouble. I'll make sure to check in with you next time to dial in my snark levels.
Pinksters@reddit
Didn't learn anything in the 12 hours since your last comment on this chain, don't expect you'll learn anything soon.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Frankly I don't really give a shit if my post is too uncouth for your likeness.
conquer69@reddit
No one is denying that. They are pointing out other brands also have issues.
The issue could be one defective component shared by other brands but used more by asrock.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I’m just trying to help people avoid an rma and a refund but alright.
Matthijsvdweerd@reddit
Because they're usually really good bang for buck. I got a b450 one last year for 80 bucks that included a lot of good features for the price.
koryaa@reddit
Why you acting this agressive?
WildVelociraptor@reddit
lol
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
lol what?
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Well, if you take bang for buck as a predictor, it does seem to break down in the way you'd expect from that - the bang for buck brands, Asrock and Gigabyte are over-represented.
Lakku-82@reddit
Why doesn’t it make AMD look bad? They keep escaping blame for everything and they are a part of this. It was fault CPUs previous gen that had safeguards FAIL on the cpu itself from too much voltage. That’s poor design and AMD is at also at fault for not controlling board makers and here we are again. AMD needs to finally get hammered for this BS because if it was Intel or NVIDIA all anybody would do is say how bad they are.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Sorry but 3-4 on gigabyte and MSI is within margin of error. 26 on fucking AsRock is a joke. And this is just some random dude posting on reddit. I watch the AsRock sub just look at this post. It's every single day there's dead 9800's on there. None of the other subs have this issue. Just AsRock, and guess what their parent company ASUS isn't far behind.
pmjm@reddit
There is no "margin of error" when it comes to a cpu failure.
Yes, there are more failures on Asrock boards. That does not mean Asrock is at fault, but you are squarely putting the blame on them.
I totally agree this is a conversation that needs to be had, people need to know this is happening, but it's premature to blame any one manufacturer as long as failures exist on others.
Right now, the only common denominator is AMD.
cagefgt@reddit
ASRock has always been the most recommended brand for AM5.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Pretty sure it aint? Maybe on like buildapc, which is a terrible subreddit to get build info from. I once asked just as a test, what stuff I should buy with my 9800x3d and 7900xtx and they recommended me the literal cheapest fucking crap available. Very odd subreddit that is.
cagefgt@reddit
It is. It was by far the vendor with the least amount of issues. Asus was burning CPUs and releasing crappy bios. MSI only releases crappy bios. Gigabyte has never been great.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
lol ok. Can't agree with any of that. Sounds like r/buildapc
cagefgt@reddit
r/buildapce is the place where people parrot the thing you're parroting now: ASRock is a budget option for people who don't have money.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Sure.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Yeah, and that and Asus being the top of the death rate compote; Asrock doesn't have a higher infantile failure rate, it's just having the most chips undergoing an infantile failure alongside that long standing ram compat issue of theirs.
OGShakey@reddit
Yup got rid of my x870 steel legend and picked up a MSI board. Asrock can FK off and they took months to even acknowledge it and STILL are denying it
TenshiBR@reddit
Since my comment if going to drown out, ASROCK is owned by ASUS.
"Asrock was created by Asus as a way to sell cheaper boards. Then it was sold and changed hands many times... As far as I know, Asus is pretty much the owner again for a few years now. Although it keeps this information quiet.
We had a discussion about this some years ago. A poster which worked in the industry said that the top executives are all Asus guys.
Established in 2002, it is owned by PEGATRON, a company part of the ASUS group."
this seems like a 7800x3d Asus burning CPUs flashback!
Vb_33@reddit
This sucks I'm thinking of getting an ASRock board at some point this year as a long term board that I may upgrade to Zen 6 on. I was under the impression they were the best AM5 boards with reasonable pricing and awesome bifurcation.
I hope some sort of bios update can resolve this.
Strazdas1@reddit
these recent issues made me reconsider getting Asrock board this year.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
That is the impression, please just buy anything else. There's no reason to deal with the headaches. AsRock does nothing standout that other manufacturers do not do. And the fact they came out and denied having any issues is even worse.
JuanElMinero@reddit
They've been offering the highest amount of full PCIe 5.0 support in their B-series boards since last gen, along the cheapest entry point into full PCIe 5.0. Mostly not going along with AMDs segmentation, which is nice.
They also weren't affected by most of the previous AM5 issues, which is why this one (including their reaction) is so disappointing.
Xaan83@reddit
Yeah, this is a real shame. ASRock was on such a big upward trend, from budget joke-Tier boards they jumped up to become great value in late AM4 and early AM5. The B650E PG Riptide has been excellent for my 7800X3D, its too bad to see them getting crushed now
OGShakey@reddit
Yup that's what we all thought because that's what we all read and now we're here. Id say get anything except assrock
Z3r0sama2017@reddit
Hard to believe how hard they shit the bed, since their x670 boards were rock solid and feature packed.
cagefgt@reddit
MSI is arguably the worst option for AMD CPUs, seriously. I've had nothing but issues on my MSI B650, and many users on the MSI subs and forum had the exact same issues so not an hardware problem on my end.
SJGucky@reddit
Using the X870 Tomahawk from MSI with a 9800X3D for 4,5 months now, no issues.
Running with 1x EPS12V and CO-20 CS-10.
SlickTK421@reddit
Had mine since December 24. Everything fine. Bios was a bit messed up but now it's much better.
mrk240@reddit
Nearly 2 months here and it seems fine?
keyboardcoffeecup@reddit
I tried 3 different B650 Tomahawks on my 9800x3D. Successful flashback, no post. DRAM and CPU lights. Made a post on MSI forums and the forum admin said I was likely better off returning the board since there was a bad run of B650s going around. They also said that there were sporadic reports of 870E Tomahawk issues too.
Ended up with an ASRock B850 Riptide and I've been stable for the last month or so, but it's still early.
sh1boleth@reddit
X670e tomahawk reporting, working perfectly fine - even has more feature than my “premium” gigabyte x470 aorus elite
tpill92@reddit
My msi x670e board is the absolute worst mobo I've ever owned in my life. Swapped out the cpu, board, and ram twice and it still took me months to get the board to boot reliably with XMP enabled.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
The 600 series is fine.
rhymeswithgumbox@reddit
One could also argue that if another brand is killing cpus, it could objectively be considered as the worst option.
cagefgt@reddit
There are reports of dead CPUs with all vendors. The one to blame here is AMD, but reddit will absolutely never criticize AMD.
LuminanceGayming@reddit
N = 1
cagefgt@reddit
Did you completely skip the part I mentioned their own forum and also the subreddit?
Chronia82@reddit
In general if you make the claim (and in this case a big claim), it then is also on you to substantiate the claim with validated examples. Just saying i have seen some ppl complain in a MSI forum or a MSI subreddit is quite weak in that regard in all fairness. Who even knows if those claims can de trusted in the first place.
cagefgt@reddit
Yeah, the MSI haters are creating fake profiles and reporting fake issues, and the mods on the MSI forum are also fake profiles. All trying to take down MSI!!
Chronia82@reddit
Thats a whole different take lol, going straight to malice instead of other factors. My point was (and is) you can't take posts like that at face value and draw conclusions on that, that because of a few posts on a forum or a subreddit brand X is the worst brand. As while some of those posts will be undoubtly be valid complaints, also a lot of 'issues' posted on those tech forums / subreddits will be simple user errors and as such they can't be trusted as being legitimate complaints about the quality of the hardware involved.
Because if you go to the forums of Brand Y or Z, you will see the same problems, but then with different hardware.
Argonator@reddit
I have a 9800X3D paired with the X670E Gaming Plus for almost a month now and it has been a very stable experience, though I hope I don't jinx things.
I turned Core Performance Boost off and am running without EXPO right now to see if the dying CPU phenomenon happens to me as well (which I'm hoping will not be the case).
Also, I was using a B450 Mortar Max for almost 6 years previously and I've had 0 issues.
Dreamerlax@reddit
I have two MSI boards on AM4 and both are running fine still. In fact, the newer of the two is the cheapest I can find with an onboard USB-C header.
cagefgt@reddit
I'm talking about modern CPUs and motherboards.
imaginary_num6er@reddit
MSI's position is officially anti-AMD so I wouldn't trust them over ASUS or Gigabyte
girutikuraun@reddit
Just because they're focusing more on Nvidia GPUs does not mean they're anti-AMD. It's a business decision that makes sense in a way considering AMD GPUs prior to the RDNA4 release haven't been generating massive sales compared to Nvidia. MSI is still making new boards for AMD and AMD CPUs are still VERY popular right now.
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Yeah but their PSUs are not supporting AMD either:
https://overclock3d.net/news/power_supply/msi-shuns-amd-gpus-with-some-of-its-newest-power-supplies/
girutikuraun@reddit
Some of Sapphire's 9070XTs have the appropriate connectors. MSI also supplies the appropriate cable depending on the PSU model.
heymikeyp@reddit
I went with the B650m Mortar because my first gigabyte product which was the aorus elite was dead on arrival. While I think the Mortar is a great board, I will say it hasn't been perfect. If I run expo my computer wont function as normal. Tweaking settings and multiple bios updates never fixed the issue except leaving expo off. And yea my ram was listed on the QVL list.
Tons of people had the same or very similar issues and it seemed with AM5 you are either lucky or you have to tweak alot to get your PC mostly functioning as it should.
Kyanche@reddit
i'm probably jinxing myself here but i'm using a 7800x3d on an x670e carbon and haven't had any issues with it and it's almost been 2 years now.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
x600 series seems to be fine.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
LOL The worst and only worst option for AM5 is AsRock. End of story.
OGShakey@reddit
Been using my x670e for a month now with no issues. Not sure what the overall consensus is but I had the worst experience with assrock
cagefgt@reddit
N = 1
pittguy578@reddit
I just don’t understood how they can’t fix it
fleeceejeff@reddit
i highly suspect these issues comes from the bios implementation with the new agesa ... expo is responsible mem vdd mem vddq and cpu vddio ... vsoc and proc signal resistance is set by the bios ... as expo is turned on usually motherboard bios will drop the memory trace resistance for the signal between the memory controller and rams gets sent thru easier along with raising soc voltage to get the memory controller to be able to work at higher speeds of uclock ... now if the memory controller fails to train the memory possibly it would try give it more voltage to get it to work but supposedly the bios coding is wonky more voltage above 1.3 could be sent to the chip hence causing all these deaths. (its a hypothesis) ... the other theory could be vrm ... i doubt asrock uses cheap quality vrm that feeds the power to the memory controller so maybe some kind of design flaw with the power delivery? just another hypothesis ... as far as i know any x3d chips are more sensitive to voltages and cant be clocked higher or take more voltages compared to the non x3d counterparts because of its design ... anyway these issues have also been seen on msi before they pulled the bios from downloads a few weeks back and also asus with the 7800x3d couple years ago so its not something new ... if you remember up to 5 years ago gigabyte had a similiar issue where they feed more soc voltage that degraded some chips ... if anything if anyone should turn on expo for 6000mt before saving and exit bios just set 1.2 vsoc and if youre using higher capacity rams like 2x32gb you may need a little more vsoc
Deathbed_Companion@reddit
For 6000, I just set the 3 memory voltages to 1.35v, enable expo, and tighten up timings with buildzoid's timings
No issues but I'm on gigabyte not asrock
fleeceejeff@reddit
Yeah for the average user that’s pretty much good enough … I’m on gigabyte too somehow the new bios is showing some very odd behaviour… more vddp caused the imc to be more unstable usually o increase this along with croc when the imc is on the edge of stability to get it stable at high uclock speeds … my previous fclk settings were also not stable anymore at 1.27vsoc and 1050 Vddg … fclk becomes less stable when Soc voltage increases usually … however now I can get 6600 1:1 a lot more stable and 8000 2:1 to be stable too previously 8000 2:1 wouldn’t boot … somehow there must be some changes with how the voltages play out with the new agesa … just a theory
Deathbed_Companion@reddit
Yeah I just use Auto SOC with -15 CO and no PBO. I've never seen the SV13 SOC reading go above 1.203v
The F4 BIOS? I noticed something weird yesterday (x870 aorus elite ice with F4 bios). I was playing first berserker khazan and my CPU must have hit 90c when it was compiling shaders. That's fine, however, I normally never see it get that high.
So I checked HWINFO maximums...didn't see anything crazy. Then I ran CINEBENCH R23 and my temps skyrocketed to 95C @ \~125w. That is abnormal, because normally cinebench will only hit about 80C with my scythe mugen 6. I still did not see anything strange voltage wise in HWINFO.
I closed cinebench and reran it, and I was getting normal temps.
I shut down and removed the scythe mugen 6....arctic mx6 application looked ok to me.
I replaced with PTM thermal pad and temps are fine. But it was strange. I will keep a close eye on it. I hope there is not an issue with F4 bios but that would be jumping to conclusions.
TaifmuRed@reddit
Someone just reported a dead 9950x3d on this sub.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
If it's on the CPU end, could mean anything from a recurrent QA issue with the new packaging or there's dodgy chiplets in the chain.
Brief_Swordfish6122@reddit
Yes i saw that too now I’m super scared i have a carbon wifi msi
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
MSI is fine.
BigoDiko@reddit
It's all board, mate. Do some actual research instead of pretending to know it all and spread misinformation, please.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Is it mate show me the 50 dead and daily posts from the other board subs please. I make a post with a ton of actual evidence and everyone again pretends there’s no issue. I think I figured it out AsRocks the darling of Reddit… for various reasons. I’ll wait while you gather the counter evidence.
TALMOR-187@reddit
It also happened with Tomahawk boards, and I was about to get one for me. Now I'm on hold, but I'll probably get Aorus. ASRock isn't an option after recent events.
Ravenesque91@reddit
The 2 MSI boards that it happened on were from the CPU not being in the socket properly, unless there was something else more recent?
HumbrolUser@reddit
Source?
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I literally posted it in the main post.
isotope123@reddit
It's pretty funny how fast public sentiment shifts generation to generation. First ASUS was the golden boy, now admonished. People never used to touch MSI, now they love them. Everyone loved ASRock, the plucky underdog, now they're in the toilet.
Strazdas1@reddit
Things change and companies release different quality products.
ASRock was lauded mostly because it wasnt involved in consumer service scandals.
Vb_33@reddit
People love MSI boards? There isn't any reason to love them other than price.
artins90@reddit
Personally I find their components and hardware design ok, but the software (bios included) is usually trash.
I had to contact their team several times to make them update the bios in order to resolve issues on my x299 board, they took their time but they fixed each one of them, I felt like a beta tester.
Ravenesque91@reddit
What exactly is wrong with them?
dfv157@reddit
MSI has great AM5 boards. Great features too just behind asrock in bifurcation, but not killing cpus lol
FrootRoop@reddit
The thing is nothing is ever constant when it comes to product quality. I've had tons of Gigabyte and ASRock mobos that have been great to me. I had one MSI mobo which gave me tons of trouble. But I've recommended other MSI mobos to people and they've been great for them.
KoleHR@reddit
Its 100% something wrong with asrock mobos. You dont see +5 a day in gigabyte or msi or asus thread that there are dead 9800x3d. And the fact that amd didnt out out official response to these is just shameful. Here in europe, 9800x3d is 600+ euro, its not 6 euro, Its 600 EUROS!!!!
Goddamn7788@reddit
They always say that there are more cases of ASROCK products breaking down because ASROCK is very popular. This statement is questionable because no matter how popular ASROCK is, it will never sell more than ASUS.
BlackenedGem@reddit
The problem is that this generation of mobo's ASRock has been highly recommended across the entire price range for their offerings. They've got a very compelling set of features at all price points.
So given that more people are buying these boards, often inexperienced, it's not necessarily unexpected that we'd receive a higher proportion of issues with ASRock boards this time around. But that's not to discount that ASRock cut corners this time and people are discovering this slowly over time.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Yeah, but the next most popular marque, Asus is also up.
Goddamn7788@reddit
They always say that there are more cases of ASROCK products breaking down because ASROCK is very popular. This statement is questionable because no matter how popular ASROCK is, it will never sell more than ASUS.
fffffusername@reddit
My 9800x3d died today, did AMD screw up a microcode update or something? My system was working for 3 months and I haven't changed bios version or settings for at least 2 months, then today it just wouldn't post with cpu and dram lights on the motherboard
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
AsRock?
fffffusername@reddit
Yes, b650m PG riptide
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
unreal, post it in their sub, they keep pretending this isnt an issue.
fffffusername@reddit
I posted a comment in the mega thread. I'll try to fix it with bios flashback but only have 3.15 version right now which didn't work, tomorrow I'll be able to test all versions and see if it's truly dead. Either way I already started the RMA process with AMD
Kemaro@reddit
X870e nova WiFi with 9809x3d been running like a champ since I built it mid January. Currently on BIOS 3.20 which is the latest. Shipped with 3.10, and I upgraded right away to 3.16 and then 3.20 a couple weeks ago.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I honestly wish you good luck man, hopefully nothing happens.
SlickTK421@reddit
Glad I went with MSI. No lane sharing with cpu x870 tomahawk!
Psigun@reddit
Mine worked fine for a month in a B850 Riptide and then died. It made me real sad.
keyboardcoffeecup@reddit
Ah man, I'm seeing more and more dead B850 Riptide 9800x3Ds. Hope that it's just a bad run and not the board itself. Mine seems to be ok so far, but I guess most of these were just fine until they weren't
PCGamingEnthusiast@reddit
There is such minimal gains from going from the 7800X3D to the 9800X3D, that I'm just sticking with the 7800X3D. My scores on 3DMark Steel Nomad are in the top 1% against other 4090/7800X3D PCs and I'm in the top 2% against 4090/9800X3D PCs.
Psigun@reddit
If you're running that setup I'd make sure you have your bios flashed to the most recent version, and the latest amd chipset drivers installed.
It happened to me a month ago after running it for a month. So the build was two months ago.
keyboardcoffeecup@reddit
I have the latest chipset drivers, but I've been stable on 3.15 with voltages that all look good.
Either way, whatever happens, happens. If it dies I may be in the market for a different mobo, but I'm not sure yet.
TaifmuRed@reddit
Rip... Hope you got a new board with the replacement chip
Psigun@reddit
Rather than RMA for a replacement, I refunded and got a 9700x instead.
Furry_Beans@reddit
As far as we can tell, it’s a specific bios on ASrock boards. Since this video, they have come out with a new full bios to correct this. PLEASE, if you have the 3.16 bios and a 9800x3D, PLEASE update your bios.
Things like this happen. I’m not someone trying to defend ASrock here. Up until my newest build with a 9800x3D and ASrock board, I tried 3 Gigabyte boards that all died within two weeks, an MSI Board, then an Asus Board, Gigabyte, etc. the last ASrock board I’d had was a B450 Fatality. My point is this is a fixable issue. And ASrock has done what they can to fix it. Please meet them halfway and update your bios.
burnish-flatland@reddit
If you look at the links in the OP post, 3 out of four had an updated 3.20 bios.
Furry_Beans@reddit
Ok sure, and seeing as that’s the case, then we still can’t treat it as if this isn’t the issue. That doesn’t rule it out.
As for the other ones, unless we get hands on, we really can’t tell what happened unless we get hands on it. And I don’t think you or I are able to do that. Motherboards come in bad. Typically 1:20 are bad. If you’ve ever worked with them you know these things happen with all manufactures. Go to any Micro Center and ask the return counter how many motherboards get RTV’d.
So, with that argument, at best we would likely see a miss-attribution to it being an ASRock specific issue. If you zoom out, you may see that this is just a small subset of the dead MoBo’s (confirmation bias).
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I’m gunna have to ask out of curiosity how you had what is it? 5 bad motherboards…? Really? But thanks for the link to the bios update. I got nothing against AsRock I do have a problem with people getting fucked over though.
Furry_Beans@reddit
The 3 Gigabyte boards back-to-back were bad. The other’s were between now and 2018
CrisperThanRain@reddit
My Gigabyte B650 has been rock solid since 7000 launch
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Yeah my x870 wifi7 elites been good I got it for a killer price too was on sale for 220 bucks.
BlueGoliath@reddit
I'm surprised this hasn't been removed yet. Usually if you criticize AMD or their board partners here you just get trolled and your post removed.
Anyways, ASRock has a history of releasing bad motherboars going back to first gen Ryzen. No one should be buying their boards yet people on Reddit recommends them.
JRAP555@reddit
Their industrial stuff is good. But their AMD boards have never been good. Their intel boards are decent. If you have the cash get an Asus board (for AMD or Intel)
SamuraiENIX@reddit
I've used MSI for 20+ years until I used ASRock to save money on my 2020 build. That board was a POS with poor power delivery and bad USB ports. I just switched back to MSI for my new build and it's excellent. You get what you pay for.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Funnily enough AsRock's shitty USB port setup is what kept me from buying one. I need a lot of ports for my USB 3 hardware and they didn't have it. So I went Gigabyte and got a great deal on one of their setups. Last board was an ASUS.
SamuraiENIX@reddit
Yeah, I was doing Twitch streaming during the pandemic and the board couldn't provide enough power to all the devices I had plugged in. I had to use a hub to get around the issue. It also couldn't provide enough power to charge my Oculus headset while I was using it.
FrootRoop@reddit
Do we have a good idea if this is just the AsRock 8xx series boards causing issues? I've had an AsRock B650e+7800X3D for 1.5 years so I'm not too worried about this affecting me but my brother has an AsRock B650+9800X3D that he's been running for 2-3 months without issue as far as I know but it has me a bit worried.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
It would seem to mostly be restricted to the 800 series chipset.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
Yeah, and looking at the batch numbers, it suggests that's a chronological artifact. X870 and X870es aren't killing chips, it's just that they were the only ones on the market when 3 bad batches were on shelves.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
x600 series is fine.
DuckCrafter42@reddit
Heard somewhere that it's a BIOS update that's screwing things over, so if he's running an old version, it'll probably be fine, though don't quote me on that, not paying this problem too much attention as I've got a MSI mobo..
MrMuunster@reddit
Been using B650M M.2/HDV + 9800X3D just fine since November without any hiccups, not even worried.
koryaa@reddit
Dont want to downplay the problem, but OP postet like 30% unrelated links, to the "dead - 9800x3d" issue.
Furry_Beans@reddit
While OP seems to be… I don’t know how else to say it, but fear mongering, this is actually an issue. It’s the 3.16v of the bios. ASrock has since patched this and released updates.
KneelbfZod@reddit
How I see with my 265K. 😌
Akeshi@reddit
You hope. Previous two gens of Intel were a disaster.
Between there being no safe CPU and the nonsense with nVidia for the 4080/4090/50x0s, terrible time to be a PC user.
KneelbfZod@reddit
Been going strong since launch.
Akeshi@reddit
I hope it stays that way!
KneelbfZod@reddit
For sure. There’s been several updates since launched that have made it slightly faster and more stable. I’m not really wanting for any performance at this point.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I guess I wouldn't be either with intel expectations.
KneelbfZod@reddit
It performs perfectly well. Stable, cool, and does everything I need. Got a bad rap at launch and yeah Intel didn’t have a great end to the last gen either.
JuanElMinero@reddit
It's a perfectly serviceable CPU.
My personal expectation is that Intel played it really safe with the voltages for Arrow Lake after the 13th/14th gen disaster, I'd believe those will work fine for a long time.
KneelbfZod@reddit
Yeah, AMD definitely won the influencer war with the 9800X3D. Good on them. Just armies of drone repeating the same lines on Reddit.
Maimakterion@reddit
It's really funny. OP claims he's neutral yet whenever people point out AMD CPUs are also dying on other boards he has a meltdown over an invisible AsRock defense force.
KneelbfZod@reddit
That's funny I was reading through that earlier. Yeah it's odd. I mean I get it. It's painful when your $500 CPU burns up and you are struggling to find reasons why.
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StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I mean it’s half as fast as a 9800x3d but alright.
KneelbfZod@reddit
Oh? For my use case not really no. This is just gaming, not counting productivity.
4K Gaming: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/20.html
Productivity: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/27.html
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Funny for 1% lows you’re like 20% slower and it uses more power… incredible technology. Let’s not even get into 1440p or 1080.
CatsAndCapybaras@reddit
Why are you trying to put this guy down? He already spent his money and is happy, let him have it.
KneelbfZod@reddit
these 1% lows? (I use 4K) https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/21.html
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Really slowly. lmao
KneelbfZod@reddit
Not at all
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Bro the 9800x3d blows the doors off that chip. Like it's not even on the same planet.
KneelbfZod@reddit
At 4K there is no difference my friend, except it doesn’t burn up, apparently.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
lol ok.
KneelbfZod@reddit
Was that incorrect?
1mVeryH4ppy@reddit
I just don't understand why people would like to take their chances. User error or not, there are enough cases clearly indicating some kind of flaw. Even if it's fixable at the end, it's not worth the time and hassle.
Anyway glad OP turned away from this bs.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
People can convince themselves of anything. Few people tell you its right as rain on the AsRock subreddit and that's enough for people to take a chance. Just trying to help some people avoid headaches.
BigoDiko@reddit
Ladies and Gentlemen, say hello to Mr Kettle, OP Black Kettle.
The issue isn't just with Asrock. Furthermore, the main issue lies behind the 9800 and its interaction with all these boards.
We don't know how many boards and CPUs have been truly affected. Only a small portion of society uses reddit mate. The whole world isn't on here giving daily reports on their lives and CPUs dying.
You can buy an Asus, MSi, or GiG and still experience the same issue.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Well given the small sample size we do have on Reddit d o my you think we’d be seeing these issues in the other subs or are AsRock users just that much more tech savvy than the rest of us plebs.
BigoDiko@reddit
You are talking about estimates, guesses at best here. All that does is create tinfoil theories. Look at the facts.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
The facts are there’s 3-4 posts a day for the last month of dead 9800’s in the AsRock sub.
kloudykat@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamersNexus/comments/1i2lk7s/something_going_on_with_asrock_motherboards_and/
HappyHourai@reddit
Happened to me. Nova WiFi fried my first 9800x3d right before Christmas. Board got cooked too.
Luckily MicroCenter replaced everything without making me hassle with manufacturers.
KirillNek0@reddit
Stop buying shit components. ASRock is shit, mainly on software /BIOS side.
uKnowIsOver@reddit
AMD good, this is misinformation ofc.
natty_overlord@reddit
Check out my summary of cases found on reddit about this, 107 potentially dead 9800X3D found so far along with other 9000 series CPU.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1i5iy9a/update_and_summary_on_the_dead_9800x3ds/
Timely_Challenge_670@reddit
Shit. I just bought a B650i Lightning. Is it only 9800’s that are getting fried?
Ravenesque91@reddit
It seems like the entire 9000 series are capable of these issues. Most of the deaths are X3D based and on ASRock motherboards.
Timely_Challenge_670@reddit
Returned it and got an Aorus Elite.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Prety much any high end am5 chip what chip did you buy?
Timely_Challenge_670@reddit
9700 XT.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
You might be fine bro, honestly if you can return it and get any other board you'd be better off.
Also do you mean 9700X? Cause I feel like you are confusing the 9070XT with the 9700X.
Timely_Challenge_670@reddit
Yeah 9700X. Whoops! As for return, I am still in the return windows, but man, I already mounted the cpu and cooler :(. I don’t have any substance to clean the thermal paste.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Just need isopropyl alcohol. Preferably 98 if not 70 does the trick. Just give it more time to dry. It's better than losing your cpu after 2 months from your board shorting out. Just do yourself a favor and steer clear.
Timely_Challenge_670@reddit
Sigh. You are right.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
I only posted this to hopefully save just 1 person from losing their chip from an AsRock board.
Jaz1140@reddit
I was also following this closely as I was about to pull the trigger on a x870e nova wifi (ASRock) and 9800x3d, I waited and waited for ASRock to take the blame and release a guaranteed fix...
They never did and users kept posting their issues...
I haven't got time to deal with that shit or a dead CPU
So I bought a gigabyte aorus pro x870e
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Gigabyte surprisingly has the LEAST amount of dead CPU's on their boards. Which is sweet since I happened to pick one myself.
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
Because Gigabyte sells fewer boards. ASRock and Asus are each twice as popular as MSI and MSI is about 3 times more popular than Gigabyte according to Norwegian sales popularity
dfv157@reddit
I'm privy to some data from a major US retailer that I will not name for obvious reasons. GIGABYTE and ASUS greatly outsells MSI which outsells Asrock. A lot of people still just buy ASUS for the ROG tax. The fact Asrock has the most killed CPUs is very concerning and not reflective of market share
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
You don't need to privy to a damn thing, just sort by popular at a bunch of different retailers. In Norway we have a price aggregator that makes it really simple to see all stores
dfv157@reddit
Um... Okay then
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=x870e&s=exact-aware-popularity-rank&qid=1743309164&ref=sr_st_exact-aware-popularity-rank&ds=v1%3A%2FzyF3ramMeR4jAUL7j27SoZKS4qJ9FVuXIkNEfzKUME
The first Asrock option is #9, just above the freaking MSI Godlike lol wtf
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
You have searched specifically for x870E... Now you're being intentionally brigadey. Just sort by AM5 socket, while there are millions of people buying AM5 boards there are maybe 25k buying X870E.
Who do you think makes more bank, the company that sells 9000 midrange boards per day or the one selling 1000 premium boards per day.
Jaz1140@reddit
Music to my ears!
Soaddk@reddit
Meh. Mine works fine. Classic Reddit mass hysteria.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Sorry but when there's like 4 posts a day for the last 2 months on the AsRock board and none on the others I wouldn't call that classic anything.
Ravenesque91@reddit
It's wild, I like to help people there with issues etc but I can't open that subreddit without seeing dead CPU's on the daily now, it's really unfortunate.
Soaddk@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/s/4IAVQYmT6L
Greenleaf208@reddit
So is this moderator hysteric also?
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Have you seen this post?
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/s/nEl9ThFRyS
ASRock basically says just clean the motherboard and you are good. Also update the BIOS even though all BIOS releases have no issues too
SNad2020@reddit
I’m worried about my MSI board and my 9800x based on these posts lol
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Why? Nobody mentioned msi matter of fact they have one of the lowest issue rates with 9800’s along with gigabyte…
SimpleNovelty@reddit
Can you post the data on percentage of x3d users with MSI boards vs percentage of other boards? I'd like to see it, as it'd be a good data point in figuring out if it's just related to usage percent.
Slyons89@reddit
I wouldn't be. Run HWInfo64 and keep an eye on the Vcore (core voltage). My Tomahawk X870 board never juices the CPU excessively. I run a negative curve optimizer in PBO, even during gaming it rarely goes above 1.2V (where going above 1.4V might be considered getting into high voltages)
1mVeryH4ppy@reddit
Advising average users to clean socket pins... What could go wrong?
Slyons89@reddit
OP is misinterpreting. Asrock said that they were able to clean the pins and then get the motherboard to boot. They did not say a user having this problem should be doing that. It seemed like, in that 1 particular case, that there was debris on the CPU socket or on the bottom of the CPU when the user installed it, which may have potentially shorted pins and caused the problem.
Just noting, that doesn't necessarily mean their boards don't have a voltage issue that can cause a CPU problem, but just that in that 1 particular case it is possible there was a problem during installation.
MagicPistol@reddit
Did you look at the actual post? They included pics. It's not just "debris", looks like the socket melted lol.
Ravenesque91@reddit
The pads on the CPU basically melted off and then onto the pins.
Slyons89@reddit
If the socket melted they def. wouldn't have been able to boot another CPU in it after. It does look pretty fucked up though.
mewenes@reddit
What kind of soap should I use? Also cold water is fine???
zezoza@reddit
Have youbseen the MOLTEN pins on the socket? MAYBE that is beyond cleaning.
drnick5@reddit
I have a Asrock 670E PG lightning, with a 9800x3d I got lucky to get on launch day, so far no issues fingers crossed But if I was building a system today, I'd prob look to MSI or Gigabyte for a board.
DistantRavioli@reddit
Day 4 with batch 2504 on a b650i lightning with no issues so far. I'm running in "65 watts" eco mode too though since I'm in a dan case a4 sff build though I saw it using like 80 something watts at one point I think so I'm not fully understanding why they're calling it 65 watts. I get the same single core though and only a 10% or so reduction in multicore performance so I'm keeping it this way. Hopefully it has the side effect of mitigating whatever problem might be occurring if indeed it is occurring. I did a bios flashback to 3.20 to even turn the thing on so hopefully that helps too.
mapletune@reddit
D: is this live long enough to see yourself become the villain?
asrock, you were supposed to be the one!
Gatortribe@reddit
Genuine question, was ASRock ever not the bottom barrel vendor you buy when you want to free up some budget for a better CPU/GPU?
Not to say the others are any better. Someone always shits the bed every gen, and you usually won't know until it's too late.
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Yeah I would suggest BioStar to those buyers
Marctetr@reddit
Nope. ASRock was literally founded to sell products you'd never deliberately spend money on. They've made a motherboard or two that was actually decent, but those were definitely outliers.
Jordan_Jackson@reddit
For the various AM4 boards, ASROCK released some pretty killer boards at excellent prices. I still use my X570 Taichi after 4-5 years (though I’ve since upgraded to a X870E Carbon/9800X3D for my main rig) and it’s been nothing but reliable and has all of the features I could ask for from AM4.
If it wasn’t for the current issues, they’d have another rock solid offering. Thing is that nobody really knows what is going on. Who’s end is it on or is it this gnarly combination of both?
cagefgt@reddit
ASRock motherboards were the only one that didn't have massive issues in AM5. It was not a budget option, it was the best one by far.
Asus spent months, maybe a whole year only releasing buggy beta bios.
MSI is crap.
Gigabyte has never been respectable in any timeframe.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
I agree up until the last one, Gigabyte has only two lines worthy of real consideration: monitors and mainboards. Anything ending in 'u' should be avoided.
CatsAndCapybaras@reddit
Their radeon cards last gen were among the best for noise/cooling.
asssuber@reddit
Asrock Taichi boards have been the best or among the best high end motherboards for the last few generations in both AMD and Intel, when you exclude silly expensive stuff like godlike. Their AM5 offerings were initially very solid too, with low boot post times, good VRMs, etc.
Gatortribe@reddit
Yeah the RAM training time on my MSI board made me contemplate removing it every time I pressed the power button. I still walk away out of habit every time I turn my PC on.
Truth be told I haven't cared much for the high end (over $300) ever since manual OC became a mostly pointless endeavor. 8086k was the last CPU where I bothered.
MagicPistol@reddit
Yeah, I have an ASRock am4 mobo that's been working fine. I would've stuck with them if I never heard of this melting issue.
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skriller69@reddit
I was told it was misinformation not too long ago and downvoted for saying otherwise. Heh.
SaturnNews@reddit
Well damn, I've had the ASRock X870 Pro RS for 3 months with no issues. Might just swap it out to be safe. Better to replace that, than a CPU.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Totally agreed, the fact AsRock is denying this is an issue is a massive fuck up. Just buy anything else.
SpeculationMaster@reddit
Yep, had major issues with asrock x870 pro rs. Replaced RAM, same issues. Spent hours troubleshooting, no luck.
Eventually moved to MSI X670e Carbon that was on sale. Stable for months.
artdekdok@reddit
I have been using Asrock X670E PG Lightning with 9800x3d for 4 months and have no issues. I think most of the issues are from X850 and X870.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Their x670 boards seem to be fine.
TheCookieButter@reddit
Returned my B850 Pro RS Wifi along with the dead 9800x3d. Worked for 5 days and then kaput.
Replaced it with a B850 Tomahawk Max Wifi. No major issues so far.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
Don't let them gaslight ya into thinking it's the chips fault. Sorry you had to go through that. I have absolutely nothing against AsRock I even wanted their board but their lack of USB ports and it being out of stock sent me to Gigabyte. Glad I dodged a bullet, just hate to see other people get shafted.
exomachina@reddit
Asrock used to be a budget brand.
imKaku@reddit
So AssRock returns to its roots. They were really the go to brand for 600 series chipset motherboards.
They seems to have really bombed out on 800 series.
I went with Gigabyte myself this time. They had some issues with their top end board but that’s really the only thing I’ve heard.
StarskyNHutch862@reddit (OP)
That's what caused me to make this post. Every single one of those threads is filled with AsRock fanboys just defending AsRock left and right and blaming it all on AMD. Then AsRock came out and said it's not their fault, cause of course they would, and they use it as ammo. Why on earth would you defend a company that makes hardware this hard I have no idea. I personally don't give a shit who makes my stuff I just buy what I can get that's decent at the time. I have no loyalties to any brands.
SimpleNovelty@reddit
Did the CPU have 2449 on it? 1 of those threads confirmed it was from the specific batch, see the infograph provided here: https://old.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1jmigv5/9800x3d_dead_on_x870e_nova/mkc0biw/
thermalblac@reddit
My 9800x3d + Asrock B850M Pro-A WiFi was working 100% great for 7 weeks then boot failures started. Green boot diagnostic LED stayed lit. Updated to 3.20 via usb flashback and it booted once but then failed on next boot. Reseated RAM, CMOS battery, no peripheral cards or extra USB devices attached, nothing worked.
Saw someone post about unplugging the second 4-pin EPS plug. That solved it for now. Weird shit.