Douglas DC-9 modified with JATO bottles used by Overseas National Airways.
Posted by KJ_is_a_doomer@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 43 comments
Posted by KJ_is_a_doomer@reddit | WeirdWings | View on Reddit | 43 comments
mexchiwa@reddit
Now if it just had a chute for the landing…
bigloser42@reddit
Why think so small. Use JATO bottles facing forwards for braking.
-pilot37-@reddit
Stranger things have been proposed.
Keric@reddit
Was this really proposed? ...would the wings have folded?
-pilot37-@reddit
Sure would!
Radioactive_Tuber57@reddit
I hope this was a test. I wonder if all the oxygen masks deployed with this one?
Lxvert89@reddit
For storage, or from the impact of a carrier landing?
Also yes and yes?
Legitimate-Royal3540@reddit
Fokker also proposed a carrier based F-28 and F-70
Fickle_Force_5457@reddit
The BAe 146 proposal was also in the running, had a tail door, tandem undercarriage, folding outer wings and powered elevators. Had a big advantage in the one engine out case for take off performance. The airframe was more than capable of the stresses involved. There is a book on the 146 with a drawing of the proposal. For landing, have a look at thishttps://www.1001crash.com/aviation-video-london_city-lg-2-bae-146-tough-landing-at-london-city-airport.html. Would have made a good whale dance.
FruitOrchards@reddit
COD is such a great name
Foreign_Athlete_7693@reddit
Also a good AC/DC song
stevolutionary7@reddit
It's all fish names with those people.
FxckFxntxnyl@reddit
Bass. Bug ass shipping shit
-pilot37-@reddit
Carrier-Onboard-Delivery
mrspooky84@reddit
That is insanely awesome.
SortOfWanted@reddit
Items in the overhead storage may have shifted during landing...
PC_Trainman@reddit
Items in the overhead bins will be available outside the cockpit door as you deplane
mz_groups@reddit
Did anyone actually do the structural analysis for that? I think the first landing would likely go like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkxR5SPd8c
404-skill_not_found@reddit
Need the rockets on the front to help with stopping.
jess-plays-games@reddit
There was a c130 with that
404-skill_not_found@reddit
😉 might be a reference
Aware_Style1181@reddit
Pardon me folks while I FIRE THE JATO BOTTLES
WuhanWTF@reddit
Jenkem-assisted Take Off
Madeline_Basset@reddit
I know some 727s had JATOs. But they were an emergancy device in case of an engine failure during a hot-and-high takeoff. Was this the same?
As somebody else said "An engine failure, followed by rocketing into the air on a pillar of flame would have made for an exciting ride in the cabin."
KJ_is_a_doomer@reddit (OP)
the JATO for ONA DC-9s was installed apparently either as an extra help for hot-and-high take-off or an emergency mechanism in case of such failure. Apparently though it was only ever used to expend the bottles as replacing them was easier when they were empty.
Do take it with a grain of salt though, the sources on its use are anecdotal.
algernop3@reddit
I've heard* that in practice they were single use as they twisted the airframe out of tolerance. The plan was for hot and high, but they were quickly relegated to engine out emergency only
*somewhere long ago I don't remember where
kid_entropy@reddit
I'd pay extra for that.
mz_groups@reddit
r/todayilearned that some 727s had JATOs
Madeline_Basset@reddit
I think it was just Mexicana that had them for flying out of Mexico City. Basically having the JATOs there as instant MOAR THRUST meant they could fly with more payload. Better engines eventually made them redundant.
https://www.airway.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/727_RATO2.jpg
Squrton_Cummings@reddit
Same thing here. ONA was an unscheduled charter carrier who used this setup only when contracted for military airlifts. Apparently regular airline fares were very tightly regulated during this time but military contracts were lowest bidder as always. ONA briefly cornered the market by aggressively underbidding and then -- wait for it -- went bankrupt.
Mouseturdsinmyhelmet@reddit
RATO.............FTFY.
ScissorNightRam@reddit
That airline name is a head scratcher.
Man steps up to check in desk…
Man: I have a flight on Overseas National Airways…
Receptionist: Is that the domestic terminal or international?
Man: I have no idea.
isaac32767@reddit
I've heard of JATO being used on military planes, but never on an airliner. Must be fun for the passengers!
FruitOrchards@reddit
Probably for when your runway is at the base of a mountain.
dan_dares@reddit
..fly away from the mountain?
FruitOrchards@reddit
Like these for e.g.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courchevel_Altiport
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenzing-Hillary_Airport
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Airport
FruitOrchards@reddit
Quite a few places are surrounded on all sides.
pegzounet69@reddit
Fuck yeah
mymar101@reddit
I have to ask.. Why? Did it actually work?
Direct_Cabinet_4564@reddit
Some of the early Metros had a rocket in the tail too. It was supposed to give just enough thrust to allow the airplane to get the gear in the wells in an engine failure. But I’ve talked to mechanics that have fired them on the ramp and the airplane wouldn’t even move. The guy I talked to said they tried to have a race on the ramp with 2 Metros and fired the rockets but other than the noise, nothing happened.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AviationElevated/s/QbxqgU0AEM
Basic-Cricket6785@reddit
TWA had one with a cargo door. The 1st class passengers in the 2-4 rows on the left side had no clue.
JATO racks still in the aft wing fairings. Oldest 9 the airline had, 1966 vintage I remember.
weird-oh@reddit
That must have been a kick in the pants.
Sam-Gunn@reddit
"We're preparing for takeoff folks, please stow your tray tables and ensure your seat is in the upright position. We plan to be at our cruising altitude in 10... 9.... 8..."