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RetardCentralOg@reddit

So the US agriculture industry is basically fucked and by extension the us. If true. Bees are an indicator species or w.e

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AirCanadaFoolMeOnce@reddit

Funny enough honeybees are invasive and not native to North American. They did not evolve to pollinate North American native plants like corn, tomatoes, peppers, etc.

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hydromind1@reddit

Things would be so much easier if we just used pollinators indigenous to the Americas.

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MorkelVerlos@reddit

Who was our native pollinating species?

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There are over 20,000 native bees in the world, and thousands in North America. Washington State has around 900 native bees. Now look up wasps…it’ll blow your mind. (Bees are technically a type of wasp.)

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buffaloraven@reddit

Here are several hundred native bee species! And some of them are super pretty!

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MorkelVerlos@reddit

Yeah. I kind of did a dive into that today. I learned a lot!

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buffaloraven@reddit

Welcome to your new world friend! Native bees are like a treasure hunt. :D

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MorkelVerlos@reddit

I’m already thinking about where to strategically put a nest for the local guys.

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buffaloraven@reddit

Lots of them love loose dirt to burrow in or dead wood to nest in :)

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Cpt_Advil@reddit

“They don’t make honey so fuck em” USDA

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buffaloraven@reddit

Less that and more 'they aren't hugely eusocial, fuck um'

We're basically only good at domesticating things that hang out together by preference

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IntoTheCommonestAsh@reddit

Even flies!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoverfly

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DiscNBeer@reddit

Our native mason bees thrive here in Oregon. They are also much better pollinators than the euro honey bees. It’s a bummer to not get honey from our bee houses, but I’ll trade that for all of our fruit and berries going crazy every year.

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bostonfiasco@reddit

In North America, they are not “invasive” they are livestock or feral. Technically.

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danielledelacadie@reddit

Very true but a lot of imported crops like almonds on the other hand...

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AirCanadaFoolMeOnce@reddit

Yeah. You can make real money as a beekeeper shipping your hives out for that. But at that point you’re using an invasive species to pollinate a non-native plant that consumes a fuck ton of water. Kind of goes against the prepper/conservationist ethos.

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danielledelacadie@reddit

It does but as it's a system that has existed here for far longer than any of us have been around, or even our great grandparents.

At what point does enough time have to pass before we no longer term something invasive? Though the logical conclusion that humans are invasive outside of south Africa does have some merit

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ConsistentGrass1791@reddit

I always say this. I’m not keen to lose bees, but we need to lean into crops that don’t need them.

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koshida@reddit

We will always need pollinators. Bees are not the only beneficial organism affected by glyphosate.

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buffaloraven@reddit

Worse is tobacco and nicitinoids, although they do largely target bees instead of others

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EKcore@reddit

Corn is wind and gravity pollinated.

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

Boy is it

(My house is surrounded by corn fields)

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AirCanadaFoolMeOnce@reddit

Today I learned thank you

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Snoo-72988@reddit

I’ve already seen more native bees this year than last. The bumble bees are out in force.

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Dry-Interaction-1246@reddit

Something something government waste, cut back the regulators that would look at this, free markets will save the bees. Trickle down.

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DuckTalesOohOoh@reddit

That government waste didn't save them.

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buffaloraven@reddit

It's actively creating a solution to Varroa Destructor, the Varroa mite that destroys hives in the fall.

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koshida@reddit

You actually don’t know that

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DuckTalesOohOoh@reddit

Unless I don't believe my eyes, I do know that.

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Emotional_Camp2983@reddit

What if we had an ally to the north or south who could help? I suppose one could dream.

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RetardCentralOg@reddit

Like the ones our leaders ostracize and threaten every day?

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Haelein@reddit

thatsthejoke

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logicalmind42@reddit

Don't mow your yard until June, do not use Roundup on your yard. Cultivate dandelions they used to be called The first aid plant. Give the bugs a chance. Leave the leaf litter in the fall don't rake it all up the bugs have eggs on them.leave it alone until June. No Now May! 3 years after the pollinators go so do we! No matter what political party you're in.

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AlphaCanuck1@reddit

I'd love to, but the HOA and the town would be on my ass :c

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logicalmind42@reddit

Leave patches when you mow and put some rocks around them and start calling them gardens and pretty soon your entire yard will be gardens

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crypticryptidscrypt@reddit

u can also throw seeds of plants native to your area in those lil gardens for the local bees to pollinate

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light_refreshing@reddit

r/maliciouscompliance

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Barnaboule69@reddit

Is this what you call a free country?

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baron_barrel_roll@reddit

It's what you call a shithole country.

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

Provisions in HOA’s that prevent people from landscaping with native plants need to be challenged in court. It is an outrage and ignorance on society’s part that rules against sustainable gardening are allowed to persist.

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koshida@reddit

Seriously. Insane. Youd think if they were going to ban something, it would be the dangerous invasive species but nope. Plenty of those are still sold in garden stores. 🤦🏽‍♀️

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Losing_my_Bemidji@reddit

Fuck em

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Ashirogi8112008@reddit

Cultivate dandelions, really? In the prepper sub of all places?

I just figured folks on a sub like this would be more in tune with planting native plants thay actually benefit their ecosystem

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logicalmind42@reddit

https://www.mofga.org/resources/weeds/ten-things-you-might-not-know-about-dandelions/ Before the invention of lawns, people praised the golden blossoms and lion-toothed leaves as a bounty of food, medicine and magic. Gardeners often weeded out the grass to make room for the dandelions. But somewhere in the twentieth century, humans decided that the dandelion was a weed. Nowadays, they’re also the most unpopular plant in the neighborhood – but it wasn’t always that way.

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Ashirogi8112008@reddit

What does this have to do anything?

Yes the plant has numerous benefits to humans, but offers little value beyone that. Whereas native flowering plants that are actually meant to be on the north american continent.

Ones that don't serve to push out native plants & their respective pollinators by taking over aggressively in an ecosystem they never evolved alongside in balance with

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logicalmind42@reddit

That was true 100 years ago but now they are incorporated into every single part of the United States and have found a way to coexist with most of the native species. Not only are they good for humans but they're great for your garden and the soil and the bees, the deer, and so many other animals that rely on them now that we've taken most of the good food sources out of their diets.

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Ashirogi8112008@reddit

That doesn't make them not objectively worse than planting literally any locally native plant which have all of the positive qualities you have described while supporting exponentially more species.

You're talking about "taken the good food sources out of their diet" then why isn't that an arguement for planting the native "good food" rather than planting the objectively subpar dandylion?

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logicalmind42@reddit

No I'm just advocating for people to stop using poison to kill a dandelion when yes they can dig them up and plant a native that's fine. But that's not what happens they just pour poison on them. Which in my opinion is worse.

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Ashirogi8112008@reddit

Since neither of us have been discussing herbicides I don't see where the advocation is coming into play?

Of course the irresponsible use of herbicide is worse than letting a dandy bloom, but intentionally encouraging dandelions isn't doing the "help" that a lot of folks think it does

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logicalmind42@reddit

I understand now, I was reading several articles that were based on the use of herbicides and pesticides as reason for the downfall of these populations of bees. After reading this article of course, I do go down the rabbit hole sometimes....

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logicalmind42@reddit

I've stopped fighting The human condition and started trying to work with it instead, that's all. My day job is trying to get people to save themselves. I've found that giving them something that is achievable, that they will accomplish is better than, giving them something that is not achievable for them and they will not even try.

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gratefulkittiesilove@reddit

Stop picking up leaves- that’s where insect eggs get laid in the fall!

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fruderduck@reddit

What does that have to do with bees?

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melympia@reddit

Not all bees are honeybees. Not all bees live in colonies. And some that do (like bumblebees - which, incidentally, are much better pollinators for most fruit trees) have only their queens survive the winter in a hidden spot.

Also, not all pollinators are bees.

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agarwaen117@reddit

The wasps and hornets everyone likes to kill because there afraid of a sting are also great pollinators.

Native bees are also way better at pollinating than honeybees. My yard is a haven for native digger bees. Every year I have 50-100 holes pop up in the front yard. Those bee friends stick around all year and I have tons of garden plants that they can pollinate.

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EFIW1560@reddit

Is that what all the thousands of little holes in my yard are from??? I don't weed our yard, we let the wildflowers grow and I love seeing the ecosystem of it each spring. First the little purple flowers come up, then the dandelions and tiny yellow flowers, then the pink ones, idk what they're called, then the blue bonnets and the rest. I've been working on planting a food forest situation, trying to model it off of how things grow in natural habitat so that it's plug and play. The herb layer deposits nutrients the shrub layer needs to grow, which deposits nutrients the tree layer needs, etc.

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vikes0407@reddit

some of us have severe anaphylactic responses to a sting… personally am fatally allergic to both wasps and hornets, but not at all to bees. No joy in killing them, but I gotta do it if they’re nesting in my home/yard.

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agarwaen117@reddit

And that’s a perfectly fine reason.

Serious question here, have you tried allergy shots to help with that allergy? I know a few people that had anaphylactic reactions that have had that reaction reduced to a safe level.

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vikes0407@reddit

Yes- they are a legitimate miracle lol. I had a near fatal episode when I was around 20, did not even know I was allergic. Proceeded to aggressively pursue allergy shots for 5 years. Was stung once directly after the 5 years and had a much much less severe reaction. Unfortunately, no insurance I’ve ever had since getting on my own insurance covers the cost of the shots, and it can be upwards of $1000 a month. Sooo…. Now it’s been years and years since I can afford treatment, and slowly but surely my tolerance to stings is increasingly fading…. So…. I protect my neck and clear out nests on my property to be safe :/ i try to practice mindfulness in nature elsewhere, so I don’t openly attack them on sight because their life matters too! But just not more than my life, on my property :)

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koshida@reddit

Very interesting. Does consuming local, raw honey with pollen help reduce these kinds of allergies?

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vikes0407@reddit

I don’t know if it works for people with wasp/hornet allergies, but I believe that consuming local honey may increase tolerance to local bee stings

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agarwaen117@reddit

Understood. I swapped my insurance specifically because my wife’s plan covers basically the entire cost of shots, except a copay on testing. My old plan was, like you noticed, basically useless covering them.

Keep looking out for yourself. 👍

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vikes0407@reddit

Happy to hear for your wife! Thanks for being an understanding stranger.

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Onlyroad4adrifter@reddit

Wasps and hornets also kill honeybees. Honeybees do far more in pollination than wasps. Depending on the wasp they can destroy a hive. Save the bees kill the wasps.

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melympia@reddit

Depending on the wasp they can destroy a hive.

That's where the Eastern honey bee comes into play.

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Onlyroad4adrifter@reddit

The eastern ones have certainly been known to adapt. However they are hard to find and very expensive. The Italian bees are very common in my area and are expensive to replace. Now getting into over wintered bees like the ones sought after in my region we are looking at over 200 bucks a package.

If you had 3 hives out of 5 collapse overwinter due to a number of reasons it doesn't make sense to introduce a new species that is less likely to survive our winters for a higher price. As a beekeeper of only 4 years now I'm still working on increasing my over winter success rate better than 60%.

The profit of only selling honey is non existent for 5 hives considering all the expenses that go into keeping a small apiary alive. People just won't pay more than 10 per lb in my area even when it costs more to produce. This keeps me in that horrible hobby classification that the IRS wants you if you're unable to turn a profit within 2 years.

So yeah you can buy more expensive bees and throw more money into it but typically by year 2 of people doing this they quit. All for what? To not work through the challenges. So go ahead and downvote me for killing wasps that destroy my hives at the end of every season and do nothing but cost me money that could be better used to work on a plethora of other issues that we deal with as beekeepers. Until you are in the game of owning bees and keeping them alive through winter, massive farms that spray, fighting mites, beetles, moths and neighbors that bitch, I'm going to kill every wasp that I possibly can.

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melympia@reddit

I didn't even downvote you, so I don't get why you're accusing me of it.

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fruderduck@reddit

Thanks for explaining like I’m an ignorant child, which I’m not.

Another words, leaving leaf litter on the ground really has nothing to do with bees.

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RedHippoFartBag@reddit

“Another words” the phrase is “in other words”

And also, no, leaf litter on the ground does have something to do with bees. You were wrong in both sentences, well done!

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fruderduck@reddit

Guess you haven’t ever left your little yard and ventured out much? Ever heard of a regional dialect?

I’m not debating with you on leaf litter. Has nothing to do with honeybees.

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Onlyroad4adrifter@reddit

Bumblebees are in the most danger. They typically have small hives on the ground in leaves.

Unless they are the ones that I have been letting to live under my back porch/ crawl space. I just don't have it in me to exterminate them.

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Kinetic_Strike@reddit

Great advice if you want a yard full of chiggers the next summer.

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SuperBaconjam@reddit

That’s the kind of thinking that has gotten us into this fucking mess in the first place. Stuff it. You won’t be alive to even care about chiggers if the other bugs die off.

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Kinetic_Strike@reddit

Nah, stuff it yourself. We mulch down our leaves into the yard, use no chemicals, have replaced most of the lawn with garden, hugelmounds, flower patches, and the remaining lawn is littered with dandelions and milkweed that the mower dodges around, but sure mate, we're the problem.

You do you, and we'll continue to mulch our leaves right down into the ground.

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SuperBaconjam@reddit

stuffs it into your mom

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RepulsiveTadpole8@reddit

Is it ok to blow them into my neighbor's yard?

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YourFunBox@reddit

How can we stop our neighbors. Is there a flyer that would convince people that using chemicals is death?

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MountainGal72@reddit

We just completed our big, initial spring yard work yesterday! Picked up sticks, mowed, cleaned up the flower beds, etc. 😢 Is it too late to just… not mow again for a few weeks?

We have several cherry trees blossoming in the front yard right now. I’ve seen many wonderful bugs enjoying them.

Most of our acreage is heavily wooded and, except for cutting down fallen trees that are dangerous, which are then left on the property to decay, we don’t disturb our woods.

You seem highly knowledgeable and I would appreciate your specific suggestions! Thanks!

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

I would recommend controlling invasives and limiting mowing or broad scale herbicide use in order for native plants to regenerate. Once I stopped weedwacking and mowing I found hundreds of natives growing in my (former pasture) wetland meadow. Other than letting nature re-grow (the best thing for native birds and insects), keeping blackberries from taking over has been critical for managing for wildlife and habitat.

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koshida@reddit

Blackberries? Where that?

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

lol, in North America we are fighting 2 species of blackberries that come from Europe.
I was cursing knotweed and holly this last summer and my new son in law from Ireland cursed rhododendrons, while people in Japan cursed salal, which is native to here, the Pacific Northwest. One persons invasive can be another persons lifetime nightmare. 🤣

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koshida@reddit

Truth. I just hadn't heard of blackberries being super invasive yet. Is that a newer trend or been dealing with it awhile now?

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

It was introduced to our area over 100 years ago. They have been a problem along the edges of fields, roads, railroad tracks, and forested acreage like what I have, for as long as I can remember, and I am 59. Elk and deer can’t travel across my property when the blackberries aren’t controlled. Their migration patterns for food, water and shelter get smaller and more fragmented. I can’t access my land either, when I am not up in removing them,! I do love the berries. I hate to admit it.

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koshida@reddit

Ahhh gotcha. I'm just not in an area where I've seen any of that, that I can recall. Well I hope some of your native wildlife is able to enjoy the berries at least

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

That is the upside, for sure. Where are you located, in drier habitat?

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MountainGal72@reddit

Thanks for the advice, Mother!

I have discovered that our fence line is planted with ivy and several types of wildflowers, violets, sweet William, and sweet pea, as well as the gardened irises and daffodils I’ve enjoyed this spring.

I’ll do my best to encourage and support them!

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MotherEarth1919@reddit

Ivy in my region is invasive… I don’t know your location but it may help to get a book on your local native plants so that you know what to keep or remove. Enjoy your yard, as I have mine for the last 28 years. Being a caretaker of the land is both hard work and a privilege. 💜 I am a botanist, a forest ecologist, a restoration ecologist, a cartographer, a mother of 4 grown children, and mother to a dog and cat, who now roam my fields with me.

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Purple_Chipmunk_@reddit

If you live in an area where tick-bourne disease is endemic, rake the leaves! Ticks love piles of leaves.

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logicalmind42@reddit

Check out wondercide.com it's amazing we used it on our farm last year we used it around the house yard but not on the big yard. we use it on ourselves and our dogs and cats. It really works it's just a natural tree oil, but wow. It works for mosquitoes as well. It doesn't harm butterflies dragonflies lightning bugs. We have had more on our farm this last two years than before we started this. And all we did was stop mowing the yard until June. But keep yourself safe do what you need to do of course! There is not one simple solution to any of these worldwide issues.

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Super_flywhiteguy@reddit

HOA: You better not fuckin wait to mow your lawn til June!

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TheWoodsOfSaxony@reddit

As someone who wants to save the bees but is also lazy, I stand by your recommendation of not doing lawn work

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mortalitylost@reddit

I was born for this

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Big_Fortune_4574@reddit

This is the future we’ve been preparing for

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blinkeboy420@reddit

Been working on this since i moved into my house now i can say im doing it for the bees

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DaddyHEARTDiaper@reddit

It's been my excuse to my wife ever since I learned about the bees disappearing.

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Cpt_Advil@reddit

Minnesota has “no mow may”

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Alarming-Art-3577@reddit

But the authoritarian boomers on the hoa board demand buzzcut yards with not a fallen leaf to be seen. Will no one think about the property values

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koshida@reddit

Mature trees and lush landscaping greatly contribute to property value. A perfect lawn? How much does that actually add? People look at a big lawn like that and see a lot to mow/upkeep $$. Native plants and perennials don’t have to be ugly or look messy. You can still garden with them in a tidy way. The neighborhood I live in has some of the highest property values in the greater region (entire city and county) by far, per unit area, and it is filled with mature trees and native perennials. There is very little lawn here. And no one sprays or even uses chemicals. But this isn’t Florida lol. It’s Maryland.

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logicalmind42@reddit

I guess you just have to decide what's more important life or money

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Alarming-Art-3577@reddit

You'd think that would be an easy choice, but dragon sickness is at epidemic levels.

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andstayoutt@reddit

If I wait until June to mow, my mower blades are going to fucking choke every two feet. How do you do this?

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Present-Pen-5486@reddit

Yeah if we don't keep it mowed and leaves removed, we risk huge wildfires that burn off everything anyway including our homes and all of the wildlife. Plus we can't see the rattlesnakes.

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koshida@reddit

Why not just mow over the leaf debris in the fall, so it’s chopped up, but left on the ground to decompose? You won’t have what you’re worried about, all the leaves will compost, and feed the soil. Healthier soil holds water much better and produces healthier plants. All of these things reduce fire hazards. Remediation to reduce risks takes a bit of time.

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VoreEconomics@reddit

The cool thing with rattlesnakes is you don't need to see them (:

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

Do you need to mow ir is a habit for a clean cut green lawn?

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andstayoutt@reddit

No, my lawn will go to seed mid may.

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crunrun@reddit

Weedwhacker

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cavingjan@reddit

What to mow until many other nectaring flowers are available for the bees and other pollinators. Around here, it is no mow April because the dandelions are the primary pollen and nectar source. Even if they are nutritionally equivalent to a Big Mac.

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burn_corpo_shit@reddit

Tinme to break out the ol' grim reaper scythe

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awesome_possum007@reddit

I mow around all my wildflowers and currently growing dozens of sunflowers in my front yard. I'll make sure not to mow in May!

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TheSunflowerSeeds@reddit

Sunflower oil is a great source of vitamin A and vitamin D, as well as Iron and Calcium. So even when there’s no sunlight, there is still sunflower oil to provide your daily dose of vitamin D sunshine! Not only that, but Sunflowers are enriched with B group vitamins, as well as vitamin E. This is as well as other minerals such as phosphorus, selenium, magnesium, and copper.

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koshida@reddit

Yes! but just be sure to test your garden soil (can send a sample to a public uni lab extension here in the states) for toxic heavy metals before consuming that. Especially important with sunflowers because they are very efficient at remediating soil of these kinds of contaminants. I.e. they take up those toxins at high rates so they will be concentrated in those seeds/plants if it is in the soil there. Considering how much we used things like lead paint for decades, it’s worth doing. In that kind of scenario the plant debris has to be disposed of carefully. Not composted or anything.

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NuclearWasteland@reddit

I left half my place overgrown for the critters, the rest is no chemicals and minimal mowing on high setting. For a "lawn" it actually is rather diverse up close with a high insect population despite a small flock of very industrious chickens/tiny dinosaurs.

Lots of frogs too, which I feel is a good bellwether.

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isrealtomsmith@reddit

Just like with recycling us regular folks will be held responsible meanwhile a train derailment in the midwest left a Chernobyl-like effect that polluted fifteen states.

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Kitchen_Position_422@reddit

Facts. This is more for wild bee and pollinator species than a commercial species like the honeybee.

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logicalmind42@reddit

I guarantee the bees in the commercial hives come to our yards as well as the field. And if they're encountering poison on our yards it will kill them just as easy as the poison in the fields. We need to do better everywhere for the Earth, for the animals, for the plants, for the insects, and for ourselves.

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dweezilMcCheezil@reddit

Better yet, kill your lawn. Plant natives.

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General-Pop8073@reddit

I had to mow my shit in January lmao.

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

Holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck

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epochpenors@reddit

I carpeted all the empty areas of my planters with red clover and I’ve been noticing a ton more bees since they started blooming, has been keeping the local rabbits happy too

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cody4reddit@reddit

Republicans just care if the top 1% get richer. Bee’s and all non-republican living things can go be liquidated and killed as long as it helps their quarterly profits. They will gut environmental laws and destroy species forever.

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FNKTN@reddit

Ooops shouldnt have crippled the epa. Guess we'll just have ecological collapse.

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Intelligent-Swan-615@reddit

Wasn’t this supposed to happen like 10 years ago? 😂

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No_Detail9259@reddit

Has anyone analyzed the bees for chemicals?

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Doc891@reddit

i planted a wildflower garden this year in hopes of helping my local bee guy and the other pollinators. i know its not much but its all i can think to do at this time.

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PineappleDesperate82@reddit

My yard is all clover and dandelions. I have two humming bird bushes they like as well. This is sad 😔

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LongjumpingDebt4154@reddit

Same. Planted a bee friendly garden a few years ago & have really seen the little critters utilizing it. It works. The more that get on board with it, the bigger the impact. It starts with a few though

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tommymctommerson@reddit

I read that some bees are being sent out to scientists to study why they're dying, (we all know the reasons , it's just nothing is being done about it.)but those scientists have been fired. And now the EPA is also dismantled. I can't believe people voted for this.

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cjenkins14@reddit

Wishing I could put a comment on bold that honeybees are not our native bees and are invasive.

We have almost a dozen hives of wild (read native) bees for our orchard. They're thriving. Not 90% losses.

Their honey is trash, but they help the orchard so it's worth it.

This is fear mongering. Honey bees are imported and die off every year and pollinate nothing but the clover fields they get transport to on a truck.

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kl2342@reddit

How can we support wild bee populations?

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cjenkins14@reddit

Sorry, i was half awake when I responded to this. But wildflowers, and more so native plants are best. In a lot of places due to agriculture and development our state native plants have taken a real nose dive and that's native bees preferred food- especially because our native flowers bloom spring to fall and unless you're a serious landscaper the ones you plant from the store don't. The constant blooming provides a food source for them through the warm season.

If you're somewhere hot, a source of water. Like a birdbath with some sticks in it so they don't fall in. You can always put up a 'nesting box' if you know you've got a hive nearby and they may come to it.

Beyond that, pesticides aren't the best for them but on the same hand we have to spray the orchard every year because of other bugs and it's never seemed to effect them. We also don't spray much after blooms open up, only just before and then after the fruit has grown some so that may be why.

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cjenkins14@reddit

Wildflowers is the biggest one. Everywhere has their own factors that even our native bees are as risk to, so it varies. I'm Tx it's the summer heat, so we make sure to keep water and food near them if they need it.

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bostonfiasco@reddit

Honey bees in North America are livestock or feral because they are not native. This is a livestock issue, not wildlife. If you really care about bees, worry about the thousands of native bees in North America. Also, maybe massive honey bee based corporations are the issue? Maybe their practices of thousands of hives together (disease!) is terrible? Maybe trucking them from the east coast to the west coast spreads disease? Maybe shoving all those hives in high alpine meadows in summer is devastating to native pollinators and brings diseases into remote places? Support small scale honey production you trust (if you eat honey), and support native pollinator habitats to benefit both our European honey bees and all our native bees.

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igloohavoc@reddit

What is killing them off?

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Head-Engineering-847@reddit

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Verucapep@reddit

Weird. The bees are already out in my yard

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HappyAnimalCracker@reddit

Count yourself lucky. I haven’t seen a single bee yet this year. Talk about a silent spring…

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Verucapep@reddit

For sure!

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

Oh yes because since you see them this can't possibly be real What a goofy take

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Verucapep@reddit

That’s your assumption. I never said that. I made a statement. Take it at what it is- just my experience here. Both can be true.

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

Unless you or someone are mass spraying your entire yard, your limited observation doesn't matter. These are agriculture system collapses. Regular nature has a lot more biodiversity to fall back on but we can't sustain our massive population and the cattle needed for us to enjoy daily meals without monocropping and massive bee colonies pollinating that shit.

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Resident-Enthusiasm9@reddit

Now this is news

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Boringmale@reddit

Keep in mind, these are farmed out colonies. Not the wild populations.

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lookin4spurs@reddit

We had about 40 hives and lost them all.

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SensitiveWar187@reddit

Get ready for honey to cost 50$ a bottle, just like eggs

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Decent-Pipe4835@reddit

Oh no tell me something I don’t don’t know. I bet your super white and offended easily

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DecrimIowa@reddit

i don't even want to think about it, because i can't wrap my mind around the implications. i'm going to pretend like i never saw this.

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Malcolm_Morin@reddit

Ignoring it only lasts so long before it hits your pantry.

Stock up now while you can, because this could easily start affecting us as soon as this year.

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

I...yeah...I'm with you...oh my god

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crowwhisperer@reddit

yeah, me too.

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dummyurge@reddit

Did a stroke victim write this title?

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AtDawnsEnd502@reddit

Im going to buy more flowers and set up a fountain now in hopes it helps.

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vladitocomplaino@reddit

The ripple effect of this is potentially catastrophic. Like, ecology-altering.

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PerspectiveNew3375@reddit

Where I live there is no commercial agriculture, but around 2015 I noticed that there were no bees and I haven't seen any since. Prior to 2015 they were everywhere in my orchard, garden, and flower boxes.

I started looking into things that could systemically and fell on pesticides, but there really is no major farming where I live. Sure is a lot of con trails though.

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IcyCucumber6223@reddit

The agency you are trying to reach has been DOGEd please leave a message at the beep...sorry the mailbox you are trying to reach is full....

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DefinitionOfDope@reddit

We're all fucked, but also the US is about to have it's worst food harvest in history. They are going to have to import just to make products they usually make.. they're fucked now.

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thickener@reddit

Enjoy the tariffs on that imported food!

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Decent-Pipe4835@reddit

They are invasive anyways

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thickener@reddit

If they are then so are you

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Liam825@reddit

While it is catastrophic, honeybees are invasive in the first place.

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

While once invasive, mass due offs NOW would cripple our agriculture. And considering tariffs threats, the die offs won't be isolated to just the bee population.

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Liam825@reddit

They are still invasive to native bees but yes you are correct

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the_real_maddison@reddit

This was 4 years ago. I have a ton of milkweeds and as I was walking around my field I could just pluck dead bees off of them. I don't use pesticides and neither does my immediate neighbor, and I can't imagine that my ranching neighbors would, but I guess I'll never know. Ever since then I've seen less and less. 😞

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

I think we are beginning to see the cumulative effects of our way of life on the itty bitties. It isn't JUST the pesticides, it's the pesticides and that air quality and the water quality and the microplastics and the diseases and the_(unaccounted things our uneducated students that are now struggling adults don't know).

This is our world. We made it this way. Actions have consequences.

four year long sigh continues.

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the_real_maddison@reddit

I'll be planting out tons of beneficial natives this year, I'd love to do some blazing stars.

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

Happy to report plenty of local pollinators in NC buzzing around the beautiful emerging flowers but that isn't what this is about. This is massive colony collapses which keeps our grocery stores stocked.

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the_real_maddison@reddit

Yeah 😓

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BIGTIMElesbo@reddit

The Wonderful company owns a significant number of bees that they lease to farmers around the country. Bees have been privatized.

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SlippySausageSlapper@reddit

European honeybees are a non-native species in north america which displaces native bees. We do not need to save an introduced species. We need to save the native species.

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

This is an overly simplistic view like MAGA folks wanting to deport all undocumented immigrants... Our entire way of life stateside would collapse because it evolved slowly with these helpful bits sustaining it. Systems cease to function when even the smallest things are removed.

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ZucchiniDependent491@reddit

As I understand it the huge concentration of crops in agriculture is more plants than local pollinator populations can cover, so they bring in massive honey bee farms to pollinate everything in time. European honey bees dying may not be a problem for the general ecosystem, but is very bad for agriculture, sort of like if 70-100% of cattle died.

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Limp-Debate6325@reddit

Don't forget to water your fields with Brawndo!

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ComingInSideways@reddit

Anyone know how much of this is US only or more global?

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Dangerous-School2958@reddit

In Austria... I know someone with 3 hives. 3 hives survived. Completely anecdotal, but it's what I know

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Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit

The EU bans many usages of pesticides.

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Dangerous-School2958@reddit

Yeah, been reading about this. Industrial farming in the states sounds like Bee Armageddon

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Ill_Long_7417@reddit

Thank you pesticide lobbyists for your hard, hard work.

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ComingInSideways@reddit

Thanks for the info. I know pesticides and maybe even some GMO crops are to blame, was just wondering how localized this is.

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Shwmeyerbubs@reddit

This isn’t good news

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juniper_berry_crunch@reddit

Pollinated by bees:

Fruits:Apples, Almonds, Avocados, Blueberries, Cherries, Cantaloupe, Grapes, Melons, Peaches, Pears, Pumpkins, Strawberries, Raspberries, Blackberries, and Watermelon.

Vegetables:Asparagus, Beans, Beets, Broccoli, Brussels sprouts, Cabbage, Peppers, Potatoes, Squash, Zucchini, Tomatoes, and Onions.

Nuts and Seeds:Almonds, Brazil nuts, Cashews, Macadamia nuts, Peanuts, Sunflower seeds, Mustard seeds, and Soybeans.

Other:Alfalfa (feeds dairy cows), Coffee, Cranberries, Chocolate, Cumin, and Coriander.

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koshida@reddit

That we can think of off the top of our heads. I’m gonna cry

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Enzo87871@reddit

Spider mites and other crop destroying pests can be effectively dealt with by using a 60/40 mix of water and isopropyl alcohol(99%). It is organic and won’t hurt the plants or the bees. It evaporates in minutes and is probably more cost effective as well. And if you add some lemon juice it will leave a bit of citric acid that will repel any bugs in the future and can be easily rinsed off just prior to harvesting. I used to work in a large green house growing produce and we had to deal with mites and gnats. I hated having to spray the round up and other chemicals to combat the bugs so I did some research and my boss let me experiment on small sections of the crops. Everybody loved it and we found that it was just as effective as the chemicals so we switched

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hopsinabag@reddit

Can we also talk about the fact that this is in reference to honey bees. A technical invasive species. We spend so much time "educating" people about saving the bees, but all anyone talks about are the honey bees shipped in for industrial agriculture. They are part of the problem! Monoculture farming, shipping in bees to feed off one plant type for a season and we expect them to be happy/healthy. Shipping in an invasive bee species by the millions and expecting the local native pollinator population to survive. Industrial agriculture is one of the largest driving forces behind the mass extinction event we are living through, but our singular focus is on saving the honey bees that are just a tool of the system that is destroying our ecosystem.

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Natural_Impression97@reddit

Sometimes it really feels like humans are a cancer to this world, we spend majority of our energy, justifying an existence that simply shouldn’t be.

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Busy_Extreme5463@reddit

Even the bees are like F this we’re out 💔

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rynnietheblue@reddit

nonono

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HighwayInternal9145@reddit

Wait a minute. I literally watched a video less than a year ago that said that the honey bee population was healthy. What's going on

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Icy-Tomatillo-7556@reddit

hI’m in the South US & part our yard has been overtaken by ground bees. From my research they are stingless, not aggressive, & great pollinators. We have lots of the small purple violets, African violets, butterfly bush. Planning to plant wildflower garden & add in milkweed. Hoping these actions will help both the bee and butterfly populations. We have lots of trees in our yard and have done some leaf cleanup but leave a good bit.

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OneRub3234@reddit

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Sorry_Nobody1552@reddit

Aren't bees the canary in the coal mine kinda thing?

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

They're a keystone species. Yes.

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listeningloudly69@reddit

They western (European) honey bee that is used for commercial honey production and pollination is not native to this continent, nor hemisphere. They were brought here in the 1600's by immigrants from Europe as a domestic livestock species to make food for people. They didn't make it out West till the 18t0's when the Mormon's brought them out, hece it beecoming the "Beehive State". Bees are not wild in the USA, if so they are considered "feral", like if a cow, horse, or other domestic livestock escapes.

Concerning yes they are dying- besides honey, they pollinate a lot of crops. Will we die or ecosystems die without them? This entire hemisphere never had honeybees until European's brought them here to make food. We'll be alright.

The bees will be alright too. What we are seeing are rhe effects of industrial agriculture and greed. Graze too many cows on too small of plot, and they are going to get sick, starve, and die.

The al.ond pollination is huge. Some beekeepers just grow bee hives, build up their numbers, ship them to California in February from mas far away as Florida or Maine on semi trucks for the pollination, then just sell the hives after pollination. Build your stock back up over the years making splits/divides and building boxes and do it again next year.

I worked in a commercial apiary for 5years. Father son and me running 1300 hives. They lost abunch recently too. The biggest problem is the variables mites, and keeping up with treatments before the decimate colonies. Everyone has the mites since the 1990's. No way around treating for them.

Also, the EMF frequencies from our wireless communication messes with them. They go after phones when working in the yard and there is a certain company that uses little monitoring g devices in the hives that measure vibrations or frequencies and sends that data back to a collector. But apparently, the bees don't like the units in the hives and have been avoiding them. We had yards near cell phone towers with no noticeable difference, but things are ramping up more and more all the time. The bees use emf signals to determine if flowers have pollen/nectar and for navigation. I'm sure there's frequencies that would totally disrupt them. Our phones 5g is not that many decimal of hertz different than what our microwaves use (put your phone in the microwave and try to call it, the Faraday cage of the microwave should stop signal from getting though)...

This is the real rabbit hole to dive down...

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Trick-Alternative328@reddit

Bumble bee populations have dropped by 90% since the last century, they are very much a native species. It's not just imported honey bees, we are decemating the natural ecosystems.

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listeningloudly69@reddit

Yes, the decline in native pollinators are more of a concern. The reason they are declining should be the topic of conversation.

What do you suppose is the cause of the decline of native pollinators?

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AssumptionLive2246@reddit

I feel like every few years we get a bees are dying off scare. I’m not saying it’s not concerning but does anyone know what happened with the other ones? Honestly curious.

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WhenDoesDaRideEnd@reddit

While this is a very high die off percentage it’s important to remember that it is normal for a significant portion of commercial hives to die each year. It’s just that percentage is usually 30-40% not nearly 70%. So while this is bad it’s not like we went from losing 0 hives last year losing nearly 70% this year. The general public usually only hears about this on particular bad years. But additional bad news is that the percentage loss has worsened over the last 40-50 years.

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Short_Hair8366@reddit

Yes, bees have been dying off for decades. That was one of the warnings the global environment has been giving us for years. Now you're claiming it's suspicious because percentages have been dying off instead of all of them dying all at once? FAKE NEWS! HOAX! CLIMATE CHANGE ISN'T REAL!!!

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parahacker@reddit

Mites caused the last one.

That's what the guy in the video was talking about - while Europe took the route of using bees resistant to mites... mostly because they had European honeybees resistant to mites still knocking around, it's in the name after all... America took the route of 'nuke them from orbit. With poison.'

And well, here we are. Might be a factor, as OP's vid guy mentioned in passing. Might not. But we certainly had a bee monoculture problem for sure, so it's possible that any kind of parasite or pathogen or vulnerability could have swept through like a wildfire and done for.

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Pristine-Fly-7360@reddit

UnBEElievable

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wales-bloke@reddit

This is actually terrifying for anyone who has even a basic grasp of agriculture.

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Eye_of_Horus34@reddit

This happens every few years. These bee's are not native to north America and have huge die offs literally every few years which for some reason gets reported as some kind of catastrophe, when its relatively normal if you scale out a few decades. It's always a "record" because the bee industry keeps growing.

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Hailsabrina@reddit

This is why I always plant bee friendly plants . I try to help them any way I can . I love bee balm , milkweed and a couple of others .

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Panda_tears@reddit

As someone who is scared of bees; “good”. As someone who likes to eat food; “fuuuuuuck…”

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Dredly@reddit

just curious... why are you scared of honey bees?

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Panda_tears@reddit

I don’t know, but every time I find one it’s like, I can’t go near it, and I also can’t take my eyes off it

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

You wouldn't be alive without them

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maraemerald2@reddit

So what’s different about this year? We’ve had pesticides for decades, why is it ramping up now?

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PanAmSat@reddit

Cuts in government? I'll believe it when I see it. I don't think that DOGE has somehow removed the funding that the government was using to keep bees alive. That doesn't even make sense. People that spout this bullshit need a good smack.

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coldshowervent@reddit

We are fucked buddy.

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Mysterious-Action202@reddit

Probably early signs of the Evidence for and projection of multi-breadbasket failure caused by climate change

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Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit

Although not impossible, bee collapse would more typically be caused by pesticides.

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Mysterious-Action202@reddit

Correct. A collapse in Bee population will contribute to a breadbasket collapse.

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Sightline@reddit

I found a dying honey bee on my property 3-4 days ago, it's tongue was sticking out which indicates pesticide poisoning.

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OccasionBest7706@reddit

Dang they just had a big recovery

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iamtechn0@reddit

Ah.

Everything is fine.

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RhinestoneJuggalo@reddit

I seem to remember hearing about years back that wild colonies in cities are actually doing OK. The going theory at the time was that it was because people's gardens and public green belts provide ample and varying food sources compared to agricultural land, and the amount of pesticides used by home gardeners and city parks are a tiny fraction of what is used in an agricultural region.

I live in a city near a big park with a couple of feral hives throughout . I usually get a ton of bee visitors this time of year, as my yard has been taken over by Pride of Madeira and they love that shit. I haven't seen as many this year, but didn't think much of it. gif

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Shwmeyerbubs@reddit

Big ag and their vendors that lie to them about their safety. Nettle is up where I’m at and I haven’t seen a bee yet.

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FeuerSeer@reddit

One of my 4 hives survived winter, waiting for it to be warm enough to open it up and see how they are inside the hive.

I plan to do a /lot/ of early season hive splits to help me, and a friend of the family, have enough hives.

Shits bout to get /real/ bad.

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hunkydorey_ca@reddit

I'm 7/7 but I'm also in Canada in a province where importing honey bees is prohibited due to biodiversity risks, we don't have SHB here for example.

Our losses are the best in North America at under 20% losses.

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AshamedRaspberry5283@reddit

Forgive my stupid question, is it pesticides as a root cause?

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Beatcanks@reddit

Varroa mites. They’re evolving to be resistant to the treatments that have traditionally worked.

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hotdogbo@reddit

I lost two of my four. I hadn’t lost a winter hive in years

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FeuerSeer@reddit

Remarkably this is my first survival but im 1. New (3 years keeping only more or less). 2. Have no mentor (being queer in a conservative area).

I think the big dif for me was prioritizing hygienic breeds and a proper moisture box. I did basically nothing else due to poverty.

Thing is to do splits I need to order queens as I only fit one hive, and NO other hives are near for drones to breed virgin queens from my hive. I legit don't get bees when not beekeeping om this land.

Surprised Nuc costs ain't skyrocketing honestly.

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rockalyte@reddit

Once Trump guts the Dept of Agriculture I do not foresee this getting any better. RFK will just tell them to give the bees Vitamin A paste. Someone’s gotta step up :)

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Shwmeyerbubs@reddit

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, but I’m pretty sure rfk is a naturalist and cares about the bees. Dude wants to get the chemicals out of your food more than anything.

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Tumeric_Turd@reddit

In nsw Australia the bee industry was just fucked up by varroa mites and the governments reaction. Now native stingless bees are becoming more popular for pollination in crops, not honey producers but fantastic for crop farmers.

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hotdogbo@reddit

I’ve been taking care of mason bees (in addition to honey bees). I had all my mason bees emerge this spring!

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Tumeric_Turd@reddit

Interesting, do you get honey from mason bees?

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Puzzled-Cranberry-12@reddit

No honey from mason bees. They are amazing pollinators though!

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bankrupt_bezos@reddit

They manufacture great jars though!

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Tumeric_Turd@reddit

Awesome 👌

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hotdogbo@reddit

They are great pollinators for fruit trees.

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Opening-Pen-5154@reddit

Even honey bees are not good for the biodiversity because they replace wild bees

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Journeymans_Boots@reddit

I read not too long ago that we had too many bees.

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TangerineWeird5239@reddit

Neonics are TERRIBLE and I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve played a huge part in this. I lost both of my hives this year and suspect pesticides and varroa together are just too much for the average hive to handle. Neonicotinoids contaminate every aspect of a plant and are even present in plants grown from contaminated soil. Bees eating contaminated honey might not die, but they certainly won’t thrive. The only colonies that can survive varroa are strong, healthy hives. One can only imagine how neonicotinoids are affecting humans and other species…We’re poisoning the Earth and everything on it.

https://xerces.org/sites/default/files/2018-05/16-023_01_XercesSoc_ExecSummary_How-Neonicotinoids-Can-Kill-Bees_web.pdf

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autumng123@reddit

We need to be supporting natural pollinators not just honey bees

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Entire_Impression_50@reddit

Because too much pollution and acid rain .

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0neHumanPeolple@reddit

It’s pesticides. We can pretend it’s pathogens, but the majority of the loss is human activity.

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AirCanadaFoolMeOnce@reddit

Are you a beekeeper? Because varroa mites kill far more hives than pesticides. Pesticides definitely a huge issue but if you don’t treat for varroa then you are just guaranteeing your hive a slow death.

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Malcolm_Morin@reddit

Why not both?

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0neHumanPeolple@reddit

The other natural causes are an excuse. Widespread pesticide use is the culprit.

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Shwmeyerbubs@reddit

Chemical pollution will be the end of us in one way or another. The death of bees caused by chemical fertilizers, fungicides, insecticides, root enhancers, herbicides. Normal every day stuff in big Ag.

The loss of habit is a big issue. Drive through central California (where a lot of your food is grown) and it is weed free field after weed free field, very little natural vegetation. The area used to be a lush and relatively green environment (as I was told by some of the elderly local residents) with healthy wildlife populations. Now it’s gmo field after gmo field, corn that you can harvest in 5 weeks or some craziness like that. (That’s how fast it seemed, idk for real)

Most of the dairy farms in the area seemed to be pretty disgusting as well. Dairy cows standing in ankle high shit, waiting to get it scooped out. Real nice.

Big ag is the issue. “Grow more and do it easier”

Every family that has a yard should be growing a garden and preserving their food. And you can bet that they can do it without needing harsh, bee killing chemicals.

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

I liked this place. It was such a nice planet.

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Daemonsblaze0315@reddit

Sounds like they just need some tariffs.

/s

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themflyingjaffacakes@reddit

Late stage capitalism in full swing... with a political swing towards YOLO and "FUCK IT"!

What could go wrong.

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CyanPomegranate11@reddit

I don’t think people understand how vital bees are for our entire existence. Without them, there will be a food crisis.

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Sightline@reddit

European honey bees, (ie: OP's video) aren't even native to the US.

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Trick-Alternative328@reddit

Native species are dying, too.

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Ok-Day4899@reddit

It annoys me but inside I thank my wife for pushing me to respect no mow May and other small bits to help our tiny crops

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Dredly@reddit

If you call to have a bee hive removed from your house most of the time there is nobody to do it.

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shruglifeOG@reddit

why would the collapse be so much worse this year specifically? these pesticides have been used for years.

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Existing-Aardvark-32@reddit

Is 5g a contributing factor?

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thebiggestpoo@reddit

No that's the thing turning the frogs gay.

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Infinite_Question344@reddit

I can’t believe Trump is killing all the bees

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jzam469@reddit

You're not going to get much help from this administration.

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Monkeyfist_slam89@reddit

Boost for exposure please

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GroundbreakingYam633@reddit

Worldwide ecocide. Brave ne world.

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bumpynuks@reddit

Good, we did it to ourselves. Accountability is paramount.

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koshida@reddit

Plant as many perennials that are native to your area as you can!! Leave parts wild where possible. and no chemicals ofc. Use compost to fertilize.

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koshida@reddit

Make sure your neighbors know too! Spreading the word helps (as nicely as possible ofc)! My neighborhood has lots of bees and birds bc no one's spraying and there are tons of native plants and mature trees. Build a lil community and do native plant swaps with your neighbors! Perennials are productive, they are gifts that keep on giving! I drive a few min away to more suburb-type areas and I've never seen a bee or any kind of wildlife there other than some wasps and deer, rabbits, maybe a raccoon. It all makes a difference. I'm a master gardener btw, which mainly involves just telling ppl these things. We even get hummingbirds a bunch. Things can make a comeback quickly, I've seen it happen!

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Fantastic_Joke4645@reddit

Thanks Weed and Feed.

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Fun-Key-8259@reddit

Again??? Wtf??

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HaltheDestroyer@reddit

Cool....now let's spray more glyphosphate and neonicotinoids everywhere

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LongDongSilverDude@reddit

They need to make having bee hives easier.... I have some land and I'm always dealing with these bees kicking my ass. Starting beehives should be easier.

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BitOfDifference@reddit

fear mongering... the percentages cant be 100% loss unless he is talking about that specific colony. Colonies die off, fact of life. Plenty of friendly bees around here. Correlation is not causality.

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barreldodger38@reddit

Plenty of bees around here so there can't possibly be a problem...

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Short_Hair8366@reddit

Climate change isn't real - look, here's a snowball from my freezer.

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BitOfDifference@reddit

haha, climate change is real, its just not humanity causing it. One or two eruptions from a few volcanoes will do more damage than human history. Its funny how they are just now finding proof of climate cycles ( someone stated recently that based on the cycles we are headed to the next ice age in \~10k years ). With all that said, we should be addressing pollution.

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Short_Hair8366@reddit

Fuck off and go suck a dick.

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cheongyanggochu-vibe@reddit

Real "it snowed this winter so climate change isn't real!" energy lol.

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hotdogbo@reddit

It’s legit.

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guybuddypalchief@reddit

This video, and the letter to agricultural officials, and the response from universities for research, about the honey bee industry, not wild/naturally occurring bee populations.

This is the difference between having honey available in the stores to purchase versus your plants pollinating in your yard.

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mynamesnotsnuffy@reddit

I didn't see any plane crashes around me, so 9/11 clearly didn't happen at all. There wasn't even any smoke, so clearly it was just a big deal some egghead made up.

This is how you sound right now.

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Due_Winter_5330@reddit

This is the single most ignorant comment I've read.

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BibendumsBitch@reddit

Probably something Trump administration has done or allowed to be done that’s a company knows about and not disclosing 🤔 deregulation for the win

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Pale-Highlight-6895@reddit

I wonder if there is any correlation between these locations and locations that have had bouts of the heavily dense and long lasting particulate fog?

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hotdogbo@reddit

The bees came from all over the US to California.

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Pale-Highlight-6895@reddit

So technically yes. Bacterial precipitation. Pretty wild shit.

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26202620@reddit

What does this indicate?

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hostilebuthospitable@reddit

Bad day to give my apiarist the day off.

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Horror-Potential7773@reddit

Millions of people..... legit. Stop people. It's not worth it. All those weed spraying companies can fuck off. The rich can fuck off as well.

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Horror-Potential7773@reddit

If we all stop with the spraying and let everything grow naturally. It will.help.huge.

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Dude__Bruh@reddit

Did they dieded?

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tiredtotalk@reddit

daaaaamn. we got work to do. ✨ ty for the post

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barreldodger38@reddit

It needs to be said: do not ever use neonicotinoid pesticides on any plants that are likely to flower in the three months the after treatment. Confidor is fucking evil shit.

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p1ayernotfound@reddit

What caused it?

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Ordinary_Feeling6412@reddit

😱😮‍💨😟

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Mortukai@reddit

Right on track for my prediction of a global famine in '28

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moto_maji@reddit

Welp

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pattydickens@reddit

It's not surprising that bees used to pollinate crops that are already treated with systemic insecticides are dying in massive numbers. It would be like if male profilactics gave females cancer, and we were trying to figure out why all the female prostitutes were dying of cancer. Ban neonics. Stop sending hives to pollinate systemically treated crops. See what happens.