Ukrainian propaganda in 2022: kill all the orcs. Glorious crusade against Muscovite subhumans. You'll all be going home in trash bags. Fertilize our sunflowers. Ukrainian propaganda in 2025: pweeease don't kill us we're just babies
Posted by Critical-Quality3314@reddit | EndlessWar | View on Reddit | 136 comments
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
OP are you talking about this video?
Critical-Quality3314@reddit (OP)
Numerous videos when they tortured POW on camera, or killed them and called the victim's mother to gloat. All during the first stage of the SMO, when Russian soldiers were under orders not to shoot first, because the operation was meant as a final ultimatum to implement Minsk. Ukronazis were laughing how easy it was to ambush undefended convoys and kill peacekeepers in parade uniforms.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Oh I remember the ambush videos. It's not that convoys were undefended. They would be riding in armored carriers but would stop when what appeared to be several civilian vehicles in need of help. Once they got out to help then the nazis would jump out and gun them down or take them hostage.
They always used civilians for their crimes against humanity.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
.....yeah it's because they're invading. 🤦 like trying to demonize the vietcongs tactics of ambushes and booby traps. it's an invading army it's free game.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
How can someone invade their own lands?
citizensparrow@reddit
"Ukraine is not Russia," Leonid Kuchma.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
What does that have to do with your different account above?
citizensparrow@reddit
Because all of the lands Russia has invaded belong to Ukraine.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Do you want to tell the people there that they belong to a nazi regime? You are more than welcome to try but last time some folks from NATO tried that in 2014 the locals kicked their asses.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
2014? When they revolted against a pro Russian puppet government and Russia responded by invading? Sorry they don't want to join your pathetic fascist russian regime.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
In 2014 Ukraine had a legal lawfully elected government that the nazis overthrew. You worship and revere those nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ipV_wcBMMM
Why are you lying about and glorifying nazis who terrorized civilians and destroyed Ukraine?
citizensparrow@reddit
Yes it was just as legal and lawful as the Austrian vote in the 1930s to join Germany. Very free fair and totally not because there were a bunch of armed Russian backed militias pointing guns at people and the fact that the ballots were not secret. This is quite comical.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
Why are you lying about and glorifying nazis who terrorized civilians and destroyed Ukraine?
How can you ironically say this and support a country thats used groups like Wagner and Russich to litterally destroy entire cities, bomb childrens hospitals, kidnap tens of thousands of Ukrainian children, reduce entire cities to rubble with artillery?
citizensparrow@reddit
I mean I would but the current nazi regime that is ruling over the Eastern lands of Ukraine occupied by that nazi regime don't allow any free press. It seems that the nazi resume of Putin does not enjoy people pointing out that he is in fact a nazi.
And the locals of that place generally did not enlist in the grand violence of Igor Girkin. That's why they needed the Russian army to come and bail them out.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
whomststvell are you even referring to in this case
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
You said someone is invading. Whom did you accuse of invading?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
are you being facetious or are you dense? Russia obviously young dolt
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
How can Russia invade it's own lands?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
bless your heart young imbecile and boy do i have news for you! they aren't! they are inviting a soveriegn country. a quick google could have told you that but glad I'm here to straighten that up :D
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
What are you on about? Your rambling is incoherent.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
tldr: you're being called stupid there sweetheart and you're not doing much to convince the world you're not
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Ok got it you are just going to ramble instead of trying to make sense.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
now only of that where true like your claim that Russia has somehow invaded itself
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Only insane people claim Russia invaded itself. You probably keep claiming that Russia invaded even though it never invaded anything.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
meanwhile you said: "how can Russia invade its own lands" earlier"
youre really bad at this 🫵😹
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Bad at what? Pointing out that someone dumber than you claimed Russia invaded itself and a question was raised how Russia could invade itself?
We have yet to see Russia invade anyone except in the imagination of those who worship ukronazis and cheer for those who's grand parents committed Holocaust in Ukraine and mass murdered 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site. Those people have built statues and named streets in Kiev after the perpetrators of that genocide.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
How can Russia invade it's own lands?-you
dude for someone trying to call someone else stupid are are seriously incompetent.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Incompetent at what? Pointing out that someone dumber than you claimed Russia invaded itself and a question was raised how Russia could invade itself?
We have yet to see Russia invade anyone except in the imagination of those who worship ukronazis and cheer for those who's grand parents committed Holocaust in Ukraine and mass murdered 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site. Those people have built statues and named streets in Kiev after the perpetrators of that genocide.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
YOU LITERALLY ARE THE ONE POSING THAT QUESTION YOU STUPID SOB
nothing you say even resembles reality you're nobody especially me that I'm stupid on this subject your pretending Russia is not invading a soverieng country currently you live in a fantasy world and you're not convincing anyone else otherwise 🫵😹
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
We have yet to see Russia invade anyone except in the imagination of those who worship ukronazis and cheer for those who's grand parents committed Holocaust in Ukraine and mass murdered 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site. Those people have built statues and named streets in Kiev after the perpetrators of that genocide.
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
when you don't have an actual argument just : repeat yourself repeat yourself repeat yourself and it makes it true lmao
question is: why do you keep lying?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
Why won't you answer a basic question?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
cant say I am sport that's what we call projecting
now answer mine why are you on the side thats committed several massacred of civians? Includong the Bucha massacre?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
You literally are on the side of the people that do this. Why?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
I love how you think you're making profound gotcha moments when you're digging yourself into a hole of retardation 🫵😹
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Photo of the perpetrators of mass murder of civilians in Bucha.
Tell the readers why were those mass murdered at Bucha wearing white arm bands?
citizensparrow@reddit
Unless they were able to travel through time and space, these men took their photo in 2014, and the Azov Battalion was busy getting Grozny'd with the civilian population of Mariupol in 2022.
Muscovites did what they always do: butcher and pillage.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Yes people travel through time... into the future. Its called one day at a time. So yes according to you they are time travelers because after living 8 years since 2014 they reappeared 8 years later in 2022. Isn't math fun?
citizensparrow@reddit
They didn't thought. Statistically, at least half of those men died during the 2015 Russian offensive in Donbas. And I know specifically that most of the men in that photo were dead by 2022.
Moreover, Azov was not stationed in Bucha. It was stationed in Mariupol, where they and the civilian population were shelled to death by the Russians as the Muscovites did in Grozny.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
random photo is random. there's civilian accounts of Russian attacks
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Tell the readers why were those mass murdered at Bucha wearing white arm bands?
citizensparrow@reddit
Because the Russian troops forced them to wear them so they could gun them down in the streets. Alexander Kots is not a credible source.
Ірпінь та Буча після російських військ - фоторепортаж Суспільного — Cуспільне Новини
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Why would Russians force people to wear white arm bands?
citizensparrow@reddit
Already answered, or do you not read Ukrainian? I thought Muscovites thought Ukrainians were Muscovites and the languages were the same.
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
tell the who? what are you even talking about 🤣
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Tell the readers why were those mass murdered at Bucha wearing white arm bands?
Yeasty_____Boi@reddit
dude when you make no sense you're not supposed to just repeat yourself. you must be a bot I refuse to believe a human is this dense.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
Pretty sure we saw Russia invade someone when hundreds of thousands of their troops invaded Ukraine. And also, even if Ukrainians were nazi, which is small percentage, why is invading a country and starting a full scale war an acceptable way to address the issue? Should we just start bombing every country that has far-right extremists? Cause we will have to bomb litterally every country on Earth you know, especially Russia. Why are you so pro war?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
Answer the question.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
No no no buddy, i asked you a very simple question, dont try to flip a bullshit question onto me, its not gonna work pal. Answer mine, why are you pro war and why do you support dictatorship?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Answer the question. Not a buddy to a nazi worshipper like you.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
Lmao your actually such a loser, you even cant answer a very simple question without trying swing back some bullshit question lol, so sad.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
Answer the question.
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
This is your hero?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
I don't have heros but you apparently do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ipV_wcBMMM
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
I do actually have heroes Sophie Scholl and Jean Moulin come to mind. Unlike you Im as opposed to nazis, including Ukrainian nazis as I am to fascist imperialist states like Russia, you pick and choose which nazis you oppose, I oppose them all.
You seem to love Russian nazis like these guys though
https://youtu.be/ANOLO1uK7ts?si=zTN_DDF_rOyqR0Zf
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
Cause that was in 1941... not 2025. Your turn, why do you support dictatorship and war? Why do you support imperialism and oligarchs? Why do you hate democracy and individual liberty?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Question is: why are you on the side of those who genocided 30,000 Jews in Kiev at the Babiy Yar Holocaust site? Why are you on the side of those building statues and renaming streets after those who carried out Holocaust?
Answer the question.
The streets for those perpetrators of the Holocaust have been renamed since 2014 and nothing to do with 1941. The current nazi regime has been naming streets after the nazis who committed Holocaust.
Now any are you fellating the nazis that committed the Holocaust and the current nazis who glorify them and name streets after them? What is your obsession with servicing nazis?
Gary_sinnfield@reddit
I answered your question. And I am opposed to the renaming of said streets, you know who else is, the Mayor of Kyiv, https://www.bnaibrith.org/kyivs-mayor-quashes-citys-strange-attempt-to-rename-street-after-a-ukrainian-nazi-collaborator/.
Now your turn, why do you support imperialist dictatorships like Russia forcefully expanding their borders and starting full scale wars using nazism in a country with a jewish president as an excuse when Russia is full of their own neo-nazis?
What is your fixation with stroking the egos of dictators and puppeting their propaganda for imperialist fascist goals? Care to answer finally? I've never seen you answer a question legitimately like everyone else arguing with you seems to be able to easily do.
Ancient-Watch-1191@reddit
Don't oversimplify things, you end up looking like a moron.
WayneGretz7@reddit
Any videos of these somewhere ?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Yes. On the internet.
citizensparrow@reddit
Because these things happened. Not only did Russian soldier post about it on social media, but Russian mil bloggers bragged about it. Vladmir Soloviev brags about it.
Peacekeepers? Lol, found the Muscovite.
bodark-@reddit
Glory to Azov Batallion, you dirty biowaste
bodark-@reddit
Good. russian soldier scum doesn't deserve to breathe
WindChimesAreCool@reddit
Which units were under orders not to shoot first? There are videos from the first week of Russian forces setting up off route ambushes and blasting any civilian vehicle driving down the road.
It’s not easy to defend lines of communication when invading a country the size of Ukraine from five different axes with fewer than 200k men.
Critical-Quality3314@reddit (OP)
Lavrov press conference, March 3 2022. https://youtu.be/_wsOMGRLbHo?t=1919
The goal was to minimize disruption to civilians and quickly force the regime to negotiate.
Zelensky regime's goal was to maximize civilian casualties and escalate the conflict.
Ukrainian Ministry of Defence issues a graphic telling people how to launch a Molotov cocktail at a tank - as civilians blow up a Russian convoy
Ukrainian ministry of defense encouraged civilians to violate Geneva conventions.
WindChimesAreCool@reddit
If he was telling the truth then not everyone was following that order. One of the first videos I saw was a dashcam video of a Grad strike on an intersection.
Salazarsims@reddit
WTF was that?!
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
That was the song they wanted to send to EuroVision contest. Basically Ivans in body bags.
World's greatest democracy and all that jazz.
bodark-@reddit
turns out killing nazi invaders is suddenly undemocratic and bad. cry fucking more.
Charlirnie@reddit
Ukraine let the pos US use them as a puppet state...it sucks...the war sucks but any country being used by US should wake up. If I was Russia or China I would not be cool with the US dirty conflict causing tactics they are pushing behind doors for Taiwan.... Philippines.... they want China in a conflict bad.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
China is under Russia's nuclear umbrella so they can't attack the kid until they try to destroy big protective brother first.
Grouchy-Stretch-6517@reddit
China literally has their own nukes why would they need russias (the fastest growing stockpile I might add)
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Because China's nukes cannot over come the THAAD that US installed in Japan and Korea.
So China asked Russia if it can hide some nukes far inland which places them close to the Russian border which places them under Russian defense perimeters.
Fastest growing stockpile has nothing on the worlds largest stockpile of the most advanced nukes.
citizensparrow@reddit
You know what can overcome any THAAD? A bunch of missiles.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
China only has 400 to aim at the whole world and 800+ US bases.
Most of China's nukes are pointed at India and Pakistan anyways.
citizensparrow@reddit
400 that they admit to and they do not need to hit every base. That would be very inefficient. I know that Muscovites are shocked they were able to steal the means to build nukes, but countries that have put thought into actually using them and not pointlessly saber rattling because they are otherwise impotent as Russia does tend to see a nuclear strike as a means to obliterate command and control, not the FOB in Cameroon focused on Ebola relief.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Lady stop dreaming of Moscow residents and attempt to be coherent.
Nukes isn't just something that is admitted to. A nuke requires a delivery vehicle and specific part production. Just like submarines. It's not just what someone admits to but what is verifiable.
US has almost 3000 nukes and it only needs to target half the countries because it occupies the other half with military bases.
China wont even be able to successfully launch a first strike because it is surrounded by India, Occupied Korea, Japan and Phillipines. It is boxed in with it's measly 400 nukes out of which maybe only 100 would actually launch successfully.
citizensparrow@reddit
Why would I dream of the one of two cities in Russia where they have indoor plumbing? Not even if I was riding high on the Omsk metro would I dream of that Potemkin village.
You need to try editing your Google translate stuff. This was bad.
If the effectiveness of Chinese nuclear weapons are in doubt then it can be assured that there is no such thing as a Russian nuclear shield. Because if the Chinese do not have effective nuclear weapons then it is most assured that the Russians have no such capability.
Grouchy-Stretch-6517@reddit
So from what I'm seeing, a THAAD battery typically consists of 6 trucks carrying 8 missiles each. So 36 missiles a battery (fully loaded, not accounting for reloading which will take time).
According to Congress, the US has 7 batteries in their possession, which equals 252 missiles that can be potentially used at a momenta notice.
Now, if China was to have a stockpile large enough to reach the US, a war had escalated and other people were using nukes, I did some maths on if they launched them all at once.
Now it seems to be about 7000 miles from China to California. Reports seem to suggest that the ICBM they tested last year could range from 7600 miles to 9,300.
Now Israel uses THAAD, and the Houthis hit them. They used an ICBM, but we'll give THAAD a 2 in 3 chance as they have also shot one down if I recall, conservative estimate.
So at a 66.6% success rate for THAAD in a volley, it would shoot down 168 missiles a volley, let's assume 3 volleys in the 15-20 mins it takes for an ICBM to travel.
96 still get through, and they're nuclear, which means China is decoupling from the need for a nuclear deterrent from Russia, their relationship will evolve based on resources I believe, and China has leverage in Africa on that front.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Couple things you might want to consider.
China claims to have 400 ICBMs so it's fair to assume the real number is half or less. But even to humor you and go along with all 400 claimed.
Not all 400 are aimed at US. The rest are aimed at other nuclear powers. Thats part of MAD doctrine. And China is a lot more worried about being nuked by India or even Pakistan if things go wrong.
Then you have to assume in an all out strike it would need to target major cities in Japan and Korea on top of Guam, Hawaii and multiple other places where US has bases in the pacific. Then the question of Australia remains. Does it leave it untouched knowing full well it will be part of US coalition in the aftermath? Also the rest of NATO that would launch nukes like UK and France, are they not going to need multiple nukes launched at them?
Once you account for all of that in reality the nukes dedicated to hitting mainland US are probably 20 and nowhere near even 50.
What THAAD does more importantly is that it is to intercept ballistic missiles on their upward trajectory if it is close enough. Which is why it was placed so close to China. It is a lot hard to intercept the downward trajectory than an upward. That is the theorized concept here so that is why China moved their nukes out of interception range of THAAD systems in South Korea.
This is why the worlds largest nuclear arsenal comes in to play. 6,000 nukes means Russia literally can nuke the whole world and Russian military doctrine has been changed to nuking everyone if nukes are used against it. China cannot do that and therefore it asked to be under Russia's nuclear umbrella.
By moving their nukes to the Russian border with Russian permission the nukes that China has are protected by Russian S-400 and S-500 systems. This also means that if China tries to launch without Russian permission those same S-400 and S-500 systems could intercept China's nukes during the early take off stages.
GrAdmThrwn@reddit
That assumes China launches first.
Grouchy-Stretch-6517@reddit
They would no doubt have an early warning system just the same as everyone else, it takes longer to reload that battery than it does to respond to incoming.
GrAdmThrwn@reddit
But the threat they perceive is likely the same as the one the US perceives: boomers off the coast launching from inside safe response timeframes.
I can see a lot of real military sense in the Chinese buddying up with the Russians to keep their launch sites further back. It continues to integrate and warm relations with the nuclear power they border while hedging their bets against the one that they don't.
They might not "need" it when the chips are down, but great powers don't stop at what they need, they stop where they are comfortable. Exhibit A) the US with the Monroe Doctrine, Exhibit B) the Russians with their Near Abroad.
Grouchy-Stretch-6517@reddit
I think their relationship is evolving away from any sort of nuclear umbrella, naval capabilities is what China will bring in their co dependence, and I believe aircraft capabilities is what Russia would bring.
North Korea has also been publicly brought into the fold with Russia, that will be like their proxy. If everything kicked off that would be an area of extreme fighting for sure.
But they are also nuclear, and if any of them possess second strike capabilities, it also wouldn't matter if the early warning never went off, they got the land mass to scatter loads of silos for sure, minus north korea. They would probably be more orientated towards Japan and the South.
Ancient-Watch-1191@reddit
The US puppet masters build on fertile land.
Very coincidently: this week, the European court condemned Ukrainian authorities for failing to prevent a fiery 2014 massacre in which dozens of anti-Nazi activists were burned alive.
PS Too bad the judges’ political bias meant victims were implicitly blamed for their fate, and their families received a paltry 15,000 euro payout.
bodark-@reddit
Glory to the kebabs of 2 may in Odessa.
PrimaryStudent6868@reddit
What I find really puzzling is all the propaganda about the Russians running out of weapons, men and that putin was dying of liver cancer.
We were told that they Russians were using washing machine parts they were so short of equipment and that with the spring offensive they’d be soon defeated.
Roll on a couple of years and the Brussels regime is shaking down every country claiming that Russia is on the cusp of attempting to take over the whole continent.
Inuma@reddit
Confession through projection.
Whatever the media said, I began to flip it and found out the truth.
PrimaryStudent6868@reddit
That’s a good way of putting it. Just find it sad how much propaganda there is in the media, I don’t trust either side. Then I wonder was it always like this I’ve just grown up now!?
Inuma@reddit
Let's put it this way...
Noam Chomsky has a saying:
If you don't read the mainstream media, you're uninformed.
If you do read mainstream media, you're misinformed.
Having to wade through this? It's a sign of having to learn critical media awareness. Sadly, not everyone learns it.
citizensparrow@reddit
Noam is also a dude who denies genocide because he is too caught up in sucking up to Milosevic
bodark-@reddit
you're a disgusting fucking human waste
Inuma@reddit
Explain
bodark-@reddit
>"anti-war pacifist"
>cites noam fucking chomsky of all people
>anti-mainstream media
you're just a fucking edgy kid who has no clue about anything. Glory to Ukraine.
Inuma@reddit
You seem to have less knowledge going off slogans and not knowing anything about someone that [made a book on propaganda] (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12615.Media_Control)
Meanwhile, here you are saying slogans, exposing how they work successfully on the lowly informed. So congratulations.
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ProtoLibturd@reddit
It was. Turns out out their weapon of global domination aka internet has a glitch...
The question is will we use the glitch againts the powers that be or will we sit back and let them fix the glitch
bodark-@reddit
the truth is that you're a waste of oxygen
Inuma@reddit
U mad, bro?
bodark-@reddit
Glory to Azov
Inuma@reddit
Is that supposed to mean something?
Affectionate-Ad-1062@reddit
"Russian economy is in tatters" still echoes in my brain. Aged like fine wine.
GuevaraTheComunist@reddit
classic nazi propaganda: enemy is so strong we have to do everything possible to defend ourselves but the enemy is also so weak they are basically laughinstock
bodark-@reddit
literally every propaganda ever, you fucking moron
bodark-@reddit
fucking r3tarded priveledged western pieces of shit when a country makes uplifting propaganda so that citizens don't kill themselves because of how dire the situation is: waaah wah you lied!!! :(
TartMiserable3794@reddit
Look is this over the top yeah but a lot of the thing depicted have happened. Like Russians publish themeselves executing Ukrainian POWs. We know they’ve raped Ukrainian women and imprisoned Ukrainian men, women, and children. Russia also proudly proclaims how awesome it is that they steal Ukrainian children and ship them to Russia. But honestly this sub just seems like a lot of people who are anti war but are actually just pro Russia.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Why would Russia steal children? Or you mean they evacuate orphans from a war zone before NATO pedophiles do to them what they did to children in Iraq and Afganistan?
TartMiserable3794@reddit
Go be a little good bit for Russia. It’s obvious you are your only active in this sub and pretty much only post about this War and how Russia is actually good or was at least forced to invade Ukraine.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
You are mad people call out nazi war crimes and crimes against humanity and that someone is liberating Ukrainian civilians.
TartMiserable3794@reddit
Show me this liberation, liberation from. If these people were to be liberated why wouldn’t they protest again as they did in the Euromaidan?. In that case why would the Euromaidan have even happened if they wanted to align with Russia?. Don’t say CIA because that is a weak excuse, people don’t brave sniper fire to save their friend for the CIA. They do it because they believe in the liberation of their country. And if that was the case now they would be doing the same. But no instead they turn their anger against the Russians, they are after all the ones bombing their country they have worked so hard for. But you wouldn’t understand that because you have Putin dick shoved so far down your throat you can no longer even think critically about things.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
Your rant is unhinged and you need help.
You are mad that someone is calling out nazi war crimes and crimes against humanity and that peacekeepers are liberating civilians from ukronazis.
patmcirish@reddit
I've never seen any evidence of this.
Poison1990@reddit
Have you even bothered to look?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/3/russia-accelerating-executions-of-ukrainian-pows-un
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/03/1161281
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/un-commission-inquiry-ukraine-finds-continued-war-crimes-and-human-rights
patmcirish@reddit
I notice this from your un.org article:
Kinda seems like these UN reports don't have much credibility.
There's a UN "Factsheet" here: https://ukraine.ohchr.org/en/Human-rights-3-years-into-Russias-full-scale-invasion-of-Ukraine
And it tells us of such ridiculous statistics like:
These just plain look like lopsided statistics. I don't believe them. Especially so when so many Ukrainians are decorated head-to-toe in Nazi paraphernalia. The Ukrainian Nazis have a reputation for being among the worst scumbags in the world when they capture somebody. The U.N. report somehow doesn't document any of that.
Poison1990@reddit
Did you look into the reason they were removed from the human rights council? It was because 93 countries agreed that Russia had committed human rights violations by massacring civilians in Bucha, Ukraine. It had previously been suspended for violence against protestors in Libya. So how does having 93 countries agree that you have committed gross and systematic human rights violations make the human rights council lose credibility? Do you think member states who massacre civilians should be allowed to remain on the HRC? Would that make the HRC more credible in your eyes?
So what is ridiculous about this? I don't get it.
Nothing gets past you does it. These are lopsided statistics. Whats wrong with that? They are different armies who behave differently.
So do you have any sources for the prevalence of these 'Ukrainian nazis' (as opposed to regular Ukrainian forces)? If these nazis you speak of make up 1% of the AFU then of course they're not going to make much of an impression of this report. Or maybe most of the cases of Russians being tortured are from those units. And what actual data do you have about the Ukrainian Nazis being the worst scumbags in the world? Or is that just rumour and hearsay?
From where I'm sitting, it seems like you don't like what the data says, it contradicts what you already believe to be the case, and so you reject it. You haven't provided any valid reasons or evidence to support your view. Maybe you've just been reading too much propaganda that has primed you to reject evidence of Russian wrongdoing.
patmcirish@reddit
The data says that over 90% of the people of Crimea voted in a referendum to become part of Russia instead of Ukraine. The data says that Zelensky cancelled elections a year ago and he's no longer a legitimate president. The data says there are so few Ukrainians opposing the Russian military that Ukraine has to abduct people off the streets, shove them into vans, and force them to the front lines.
The data says that after all the media hype about Russians with shovels and washing machine chips, somehow the Russians have a lot more soldiers and ammo than all of NATO.
The data says that Russia is continually advancing along the front line.
The data says Putin has very high approval and keeps getting re-elected whereas Zelensky's approval is so low, he's had to cancel elections.
The data says that in 2022, the Ukrainian regime targeted and "disappeared" every left-of-center democratically-elected member of the legislature, which indicates that the people of Ukraine don't actually support the Zelensky regime.
Don't talk about data has continually indicated since 2014 that the U.S. is meddling and provoking in Ukraine and the people of Ukraine don't even support it.
Poison1990@reddit
You need to look up the definition of data because this ain't it 😂
This is conspiracy theory, propaganda, and opinion. I hope I can help you use your critical thinking skills to see through the bullshit.
Consider; does the Ukrainian constitution allow for elections during war time? Did that constitution exist before Zelensky?
Consider; does every nation who uses conscription use force to implement it? (Including Russia and the US)
Consider; have you looked up how many soldiers NATO countries have? Have you looked up how many soldiers Russia has? This information is readily available.
Consider; was the election in Crimea held before or after Russian forces had occupied the area? Was this a free and fair election?
If you genuinely consider these questions you'll have the context needed to reevaluate some of the points you've made.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
I got a question for you. Why were those mass murdered in Bucha wearing white arm bands and they only got murdered 3 days after Russians left the town?
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
A good technique when reading these falsified reports is too check the names of the writers or the directors of those agencies. You will usually see EU/NATO officials or ex officials every time.
TartMiserable3794@reddit
Go in Ukraine war Reddit pages or telegram plenty of Russian Units publish their crimes.
Poison1990@reddit
You've hit the nail on the head. This community has always been somewhat anti-west because the main target of its criticism has been the US using its bloated military budget to fund continuous interventions in the middle east.
But now it seems like we have reached a critical mass of tankies and bots to the point where people are blaming Ukraine for being invaded and parroting Russian propaganda. It's madness.
It makes no sense to be anti-war, and not be anti-Russian. Remember what happened in South Ossstia, Chechnya, and Georgia? This is just more of the same.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
You mean in 2008 where even the EU admitted that Georgia attack South Ossetia and Abkhazia and shelled Russian peacekeepers protecting the civilians there?
TartMiserable3794@reddit
I’m an American I’m not gonna sit here and say yeah America has done no wrong I can think of plenty of times we have done horrible things. But there is a weird group of people who are so far gone into the anti America anti west, whatever you wanna call it. That no matter what the West is doing it’s bad and that somehow, that makes them better and smarter than everyone else. It’s the people who look around them and automatically think going against the grain is the best thing to do, but that is just as sheepish as someone who just follows the herd.
bodark-@reddit
Glory to Ukraine, Glory to the Heroes, you dirty vatnik trash. A century has passed and "pacifists" are still nazi sympathizers
patmcirish@reddit
So is this a new video? Are the guys in red bands supposed be Russians and this is a propaganda video make by Ukrainians? I also want to know who added this song to the video.
MsWonderWonka@reddit
Right! I have all the same questions. Like, what is the actual psyop and who is the intended audience? Lol the music is insane and in English, is this A.I. ?? 😂
Big-Ratio-8171@reddit
Russia is the aggressor
MindArr0w77@reddit
You spelled NATO wrong
AverageTankie93@reddit
They don’t know what that is
Ancient-Watch-1191@reddit
Well the European court of human rights is of another opinion.
Poison1990@reddit
Source?
Frost787@reddit
This propaganda just incentives soldiers not to surrender, sad.
TarasBulbaNotYulBryn@reddit
There is also a kind of insight into the mindset of the makers of such propaganda. Too many are surrendering so they roll out specifically targeted psy-op to scare newly kidnapped forced conscripts.
Ancient-Watch-1191@reddit
This is exactly the objective.