Fuck around and find out.
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 166 comments
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 166 comments
milkbretheren@reddit
“Libertarians” shilling for oligarchs? Huh?
cedenof10@reddit
Obviously corporate boot tastes better than government boot
Shrek2onVHS69420@reddit
Neither taste good you moron
robtimist@reddit
OP is a self proclaimed “former tankie” btw
commandercool86@reddit
Whats a tankie?
International_Lie485@reddit
Stalin/Mao supporters.
Ecstatic-Inevitable@reddit
Also constantly just coming here to make anti Dem posts instead of anything pro libertarian
bofadoze@reddit
All the upvotes show how many MAGAts threw up a Gadsden flag and said "I'm Librterrean now!"
Mountain-Papaya-492@reddit
I'm not a libertarian but share many beliefs with yall, but man this sub really doesn't help the image problem libertarians have of just being Republicans who smoke weed.
Like the whole ends justify the means type thinking, which admittedly isn't exclusive to people on this sub, seems rampant in all political leanings.
Still I would think libertarians would be much more of it's how you play the game. As to this specific posts topic I'd ask can we not imitate the death of the Roman Republic exactly lets atleast be original. War lord politicians are the last thing we need.
Exact-Expression3073@reddit
This is just a dumb post that doesn't talk about anything libertarian.
PuzzleheadedAd6401@reddit
I agree with people who own their cars being able to protect their own property.
But private citizens protecting a corporate dealership? You do you.
anonandlit333@reddit
So just private security? Nothing wrong with that on its own.
broomosh@reddit
But you would be getting paid as private security. The joke is about being voluntary security for a business.
A business that doesn't give a fuck about you.
GodIsDead-@reddit
What about if you care about your community and don’t want your local businesses set on fire for no reason
broomosh@reddit
Do you. I won't kill someone over a Model 3
International_Lie485@reddit
priviledged detected
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
I think it might be worth exercising 2nd amendment rights against someone who is so cavalier with their Pyrrhic vandalism that they are a hazard to everyone in close proximity. Those lithium ion batteries are really a slow controlled burn you know.
smokinjoev@reddit
Not sure that’s the take on 2A we want to die on the hill over. That’s a no harm no foul protest. No one needs a fucking ar15 to protect the protesters nor the property owner. Who also happens to be the protester.
Benji_4@reddit
That argument is always broken when there is an AR-15 in your face. Now I'd bet you want one.
cplog991@reddit
Ill use what i want
broomosh@reddit
You live next to a Tesla dealership?
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
Perhaps.
Maybe on the same block, or maybe I just have compassion for those who do.
cplog991@reddit
Indont get the downvotes here
HAIKU_4_YOUR_GW_PICS@reddit
I wouldn’t, but the line has to be drawn somewhere when
broomosh@reddit
You have to draw the line somewhere to protect corporations?
runningvicuna@reddit
If you don’t stand up for the model t, what’s next?
not_today_thank@reddit
Rittenhouse didn't kill or shoot anyone over property. He killed one man that chased him and grabbed his gun. He killed one man that hit him over the head with a skateboard. And he shot one man who pointed a gun at him.
We can argue whether the shootings were self defense, but there is no allegation he shot anyone over property.
CanvasSolaris@reddit
Maybe the property owner should car about their own property and be out there too.
Spunkybrewster7777@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
Jimbohones@reddit
The "reason" they were set on fire is that Elmo is committing massive insurance fraud
LastWhoTurion@reddit
That’s disputed. Multiple witnesses testified that the owners did give them permission to guard their property.
cbph@reddit
Permission and payment are very different things.
anonandlit333@reddit
Ok but the suggestion was security detail at a dealership. And unless you’re a freak, you would expect to be paid for that work. I don’t even like Rittenhouse I think he’s a turd, but a job is a job. It’s odd to find fault in private security work imo.
pandemicpunk@reddit
how much did rittenhouse get paid?
anonandlit333@reddit
Rittenhouse wasn’t working as a private security officer so I’d imagine nothing? Not really a gotcha moment.
pandemicpunk@reddit
👍
comosedicewaterbed@reddit
Did the dealership hire Rittenhouse? Or even consent to him being on their property?
JimMarch@reddit
It's not optimal. But when the cops refuse to do it, we the people have a right to stand up instead.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the businesses in Kenosha being torched had legally occupied apartments up top. So it wasn't just a property crimes problem.
PestyNomad@reddit
Isn't that how it works already? Private security monitors businesses, right? I don't see how what OP is suggesting is any different from what we have now.
I think what OP wants is to to allow private security to have extrajudicial powers.
Initial-Attorney-578@reddit
Theirs Libertarians and then theirs Libertarians who shove their noses up companies assholes.
broomosh@reddit
I am a free thinker and I choose to sacrifice my body so we can keep these deals at rock bottom prices! /s
berkough@reddit
lvl69blackmage@reddit
If they are paid what’s the issue?
GangstaVillian420@reddit
Or volunteers
lvl69blackmage@reddit
Volunteering to be security at a borderline trillion dollar company is wild. But like the previous person said, you do you.
NewPerfection@reddit
It's called private security, and it's quite common.
Funky_Gunz@reddit
Uncle's gas station, wasn't it?
JediEurb@reddit
You’re in the wrong group, buddy.
AgeOfReasonEnds31120@reddit
"You did Jan. 6!"
"Well you did the BLM riots!"
Me, who likes both:
Recent-Progress-76@reddit
You agree to violence. Thats what both caused.
AgeOfReasonEnds31120@reddit
Violence against the government and cops is cool.
ChainringCalf@reddit
I think you just like violence, bud.
AgeOfReasonEnds31120@reddit
somewhat correct
Recent-Progress-76@reddit
Wow.
Quartia@reddit
Or we dislike the US government and think the fact that these rebellions barely touch the government and fail so badly is scarier than the fact that they're happening at all.
Jrewby@reddit
Let’s not shoot people for vandalism. Since you brought it up though, I think maybe we should shoot people for suggesting that we shoot people for vandalism. Okay byeeee 👋
GunTotingQuaker@reddit
Terrorism, FTFY
Dollar_Bills@reddit
I hope the boots stepped in a good flavor of bubble gum before you licked it.
Terrorism, as defined by the federal government that should have absolutely no power over your daily life. FTFY
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
Suggesting then anyone should use force to defend their own, or someone else's property, is not bootlicking.
Pointing out that using violence to in some way influence political policy is terrorism is also not bootlicking.
For FUCK'S sake, one of the only legitimate reasons to have a government is to guard the safety of one's self and property.
Dollar_Bills@reddit
These people are as much terrorists as the January 6th people. BARELY. The only way they are is if you consider car fires violent. For fuck's sake, we fought a never ending war on terror and I'm not going to want another one over a fucking car dealership.
The people committed arson as a protest. Arson is already a crime. You don't need to give the government extra powers like they took via the Patriot act to deal with arson.
I don't want the government to have special rules for thought crimes, but I guess you're fine with that.
GunTotingQuaker@reddit
Oh fuck off. Terrorism as a legal term is (I’m sure you’ll be gobsmacked) as hate crime or hate speech. At no point did I advocate for extra punishment, you just extrapolated that from your bias.
However, what is happening with Tesla is in fact terrorism. Go suck your own boot in your basement.
Dollar_Bills@reddit
A bullshit legal term, same as the hate crimes and hate speech. The only reason they use those terms is for extra punishment.
Lol, guess you don't even understand what a bootlicker is.
GunTotingQuaker@reddit
That’s like saying first degree murder, second degree murder, manslaughter, negligent homicide etc are the same because someone dies regardless.
If you wanna play super cool “intent doesn’t ever matter” be my guest, but that’s gonna be a weird hill to die on when you dig about half a layer down.
Trying to scare/intimidate people for their politics with violence is in fact a whole fucking lot different than a teenage hoodlum tagging a car. If you’re too brain dead to understand that, thank god whatever politics you ascribe to aren’t in any kind of power.
Dollar_Bills@reddit
No it isn't. murder 1 vs manslaughter is clearly defined. Sure motives are involved but they are different from adding 20+ years to a normally 1 year crime.
If you are too braindead to realize that adding insane penalties because "politics may have played a role" is a bad idea, I don't know what to tell you.
Your political brand is out and about right now, and I'm saying it's a bad idea. I hope you realize it sooner rather than later. Trying to deport legal citizens for free speeching the wrong way is a bad idea.
The January 6th people were railroaded and treated like terrorists with sentencing. It was wrong then, too.
If you wanna trust your daddy to decide who did extra bad crimes vs who did less bad crimes, go ahead. I'm not subscribing to the bullshit.
I did not say that "intent never matters" but it sure as shit shouldn't matter in a simple case like property damage. Adding little nanny state qualifiers to petty crime is fucking sick and you shouldn't support it.
The politics I ascribe to treat everyone the same. I'm not sorry you don't like it. Maybe take it up with your local DEI department because there wasn't a special place for the special crime that you think needs special punishment. You fucking baby
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
Words have meanings.
Now, I'm not of a mind to attach sentence enhancers to crimes due to motivation, whether it's racially motivated, terrorism motivated, or any other thing that while is socially frowned upon is not illegal in and of itself. So in this case I'm saying it's arson and vandalism (possibly illegal) and terrorism (which is bad). Whether that terrorism is illegal depends on the provable actions. If they are committing one illegal act while "protesting", it likely falls into the category of illegal terrorism.
Dollar_Bills@reddit
You lost me there. I was halfway gone when you said that arson and vandalism were "possibly illegal".
Arson and vandalism are crimes committed on someone else's property. Pretty cut and dry there.
What constitutes an act of terrorism is defined by the state and requires subjective interpretation of someone's actions. AKA, anything can be terrorism. It's bullshit. Hate crimes are also bullshit. Completely subjective. Justice is blind, it can't wear glasses to see some crimes in a different light.
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
The "possibly illegal" only belonged to the vandalism. Yes, all arson is illegal.
Knocking over someone's trash can or could be considered vandalism that doesn't rise to the level of criminal.
GunTotingQuaker@reddit
Terrorism as defined by the dictionary definition of terrorism you mean? Fucking up other people’s stuff because of their politics? Cool story wiener 🤷🏻♂️
Dollar_Bills@reddit
The Weiner is the person that doesn't want to charge everyone with terrorism for everything. The non weiner wants a nanny state to keep them safe from the little car fire because that's scary terrorism.
Lol, "daddy government, pwease charge people with extra cwimes. I'm sure they were thinking bad things, probably really bad things"
bofadoze@reddit
TeRrOrIsM
GunTotingQuaker@reddit
I mean, what people are doing regarding Tesla is literally the definition of terrorism. You can do your SpongeBob meme shit, but at least be honest that your ok with political violence if it supports your cause 🤷🏻♂️
-_JJ_-@reddit
Didn’t fix anything
Recent-Progress-76@reddit
Is this sub even libertarian?
jdhutch80@reddit
I've got a friend who almost exclusively shares left-wing memes from Occupy Democrats or "Republicans are Destroying Our Country," or other such dumb pages. Recently he shared something about how Republicans are suddenly hypocrites for loving Teslas all of a sudden. I have much less of a problem with that hypocrisy than I do with the leftists torching them.
CarrtoonJack@reddit
You're a libertarian and you're licking boots, huh? Okay 👍
Quick-Zombie-9041@reddit
Literally propping up a business just because it’s being bullied? Not libertarian at all
Cbanks89@reddit
“Literally propping up a business just because it’s being terrorized?”
FTFY
ochen-khorosho@reddit
Why would you volunteer to help a billionaire who literally doesn’t care about you? He wants protection he can pay for it
Cbanks89@reddit
You do realize multiple states have their pension funds invested heavily in Tesla? There are people who may not necessarily agree with Trump and Musk but enjoy working for the company. This action being taken isn’t hurting Musk. It’s hurting the common people. 401Ks will be affected and it’s a matter of time until one of these idiots torching the Tesla dealerships cross the ultimate line and take someone’s life during the ordeal.
thunderbaby2@reddit
401ks may be affected.. meanwhile tens of thousands are losing their jobs, the markets in the shitter, prices of goods are going to keep climbing across most, if not all sectors due to Elon and Trump policies.
ochen-khorosho@reddit
we need to take up arms to protect a multi billion dollar company because some people own stocks in it? Tesla is one company. Stop acting like we need to lick their boots to defend the working class. If Tesla wants security, they hire security. Nobody's 401k is completely dependent on Tesla, and we certainly shouldn't put our lives on the line for FREE, for a private business. What an insane hill to die on
Cbanks89@reddit
One I never said we needed to take up arms to defend them. I fixed your comment and called these individuals destroying teslas and dealerships what they are, domestic terrorist.
Secondly, it’s not just some people that have stock in Tesla. Maybe learn to fully read as this affects anyone from those states to include the ones committing these destructive crimes.
aliph@reddit
Enforcing property rights and the NAP is like the only thing Libertarians think the government should do
RaphiTaffy@reddit
Stupid ass post
MarshalThornton@reddit
Whose going to defend Tesla from all the cybertruck panels falling off? Sounds like the work of the greatest domestic terrorist of all.
thewholetruthis@reddit
But can security shoot somebody for starting a fire?
mmmmmmmmm29@reddit
This is corny
Brother_Shme@reddit
Moderate Republicans are just trying to find a home, man.
HiSpot321@reddit
Maybe, Just maybe if he didn’t go full Nazi and stick to his businesses none of this would’ve happened. I am not condoning the actions of those burning shit but damn
stivinladria@reddit
Kyle wishes he was Luigi.
spaztick1@reddit
Who wishes they were a murderer?
Automatic-Garden7047@reddit
Kyle did.
RouletteVeteran@reddit
I see no problem with security. Only a problem when you’re using tax payer funds to do so. When you’re a billionaire. Stop the welfare
mojomofo7@reddit
Because Libertarians are basically MAGAs who are afraid to admit it.
sailormikey@reddit
Happy cake day!
mojomofo7@reddit
Thanks
Jack_Vermicelli@reddit
No, but a lot of those who call themselves that seem to be these days.
AgramerHistorian@reddit
And then the other side will also show up, carrying guns.
There is a big difference between 500 protesters in front of your store, just protesting, and 500 people, armed to the teeth.
5HTjm89@reddit
The retard who crossed state lines looking for trouble, shot two unarmed men and cried about it?
I’d probably hire a professional instead.
Middle____Earth@reddit
Cringe post. Original poster is definitely a Republican, not a libertarian
CodeRedNo1@reddit
I don't think the response to violence is more violence.
Asangkt358@reddit
So of someone burns down your house, are you going to give the arsonist a big hug?
CodeRedNo1@reddit
Do you burn down their house? That's called war. Do you know what it's called when you have war within a country? You should. We already had one.
spaztick1@reddit
What do you think the police department is?
Artemis132457@reddit
That makes it right?
Puzzleheaded-Task780@reddit
It’s giving save my “overlords”
Gigaorc420@reddit
umm...how about no. If you're protecting your own property and business sure, but for someone else esp some rich asshole? No thanks, waste of amo in my opinion
broomosh@reddit
Big ammo disagrees with you
Exciting-Insect-8813@reddit
Why shouldn’t a private business be able to hire private protection or even arm themselves to protect their property against terrorists? This is exactly a great reason private citizens should be armed and have protections under the law.
PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS@reddit
I dont think the post is about hiring private security or protection. I think its about voluntarily protecting or securing a car company owned by the richest man on earth. I personally think thats dumb but you do you.
Exciting-Insect-8813@reddit
What is it about a wealthy man that triggers such emotion from you?
truebastard@reddit
If the wealthy man is paying for the protection, then it's all fair and square, but doing it for free for him is just selling yourself short.
bananachow@reddit
I think it’s perfectly acceptable and much better than having the local government/police doing it like what has been done recently.
straygeologist@reddit
This is what people post when they really just want an excuse to kill people. Seek help.
Hortjoob@reddit
Suck the corpo boot a bit harder
Tippy4OSU@reddit
KR with an AR won’t help much
FatBlueLines@reddit
Fuck Elon
HailJames85@reddit
Kyle is a douche
Many_Leading@reddit
Does anybody other than OP post on this sub anymore?
ChaoticGoodSamaritan@reddit
Dude is probably a Domino's driver that doesn't even make enough to have to file taxes and sits around all day crying about how they're spent
cbgldghlg@reddit
Yeah he’s always reposting in all subreddits haha
Rvtrance@reddit
It was funny when he voted Libertarian and the MAGA crowd turned on him. Good for Kyle. He doesn’t owe anyone anything.
iratecntndr_91@reddit
Ehh he recanted his statement like 8hrs later and endorsed Trump
Rvtrance@reddit
I understood why he did. His “Career” if you want to call it that is dependent on the GOP. But it was cool to see where his heart was.
ningyna@reddit
He'll learn to love conservativism since they write his checks. I doubt he'll step out of line again.
Gigaorc420@reddit
kyle and david hogg should have a fits fight. you know people would pay to see that
Rvtrance@reddit
Yeah, that was a shot across the bow and he felt it.
jesse1time@reddit
Teenagers with guns has never not worked out
CigarRecon@reddit
Especially when they get on the stand and cry like a hoe ass bitch instead of standing on business.
spaztick1@reddit
Maybe you've been through a violent situation like that and weren't really emotional about it. Most people would be.
d0nt_eat_that@reddit
sooo property is worth more than a life? hard pass on that
Comfortable_Mix_7445@reddit
My property is my property, your life has value, but you’re the one throwing it away if you mess with my stuff. Fuck around and find out.
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
The list of things that I own that I value more than the life of a thief or vandal includes everything I own.
IsawitinCroc@reddit
Well said.
Classy_Mouse@reddit
That seems like an intentionally obtuse way to look at it. Simply put, my rights end where yours begin. If I threaten someone else's rights, I am forfeiting my own. It isn't about "worth," and that framing is usually used by those trying to violate the rights of others.
EverythingsStupid321@reddit
Are you really going to die for a chicken?
Someone is.
s29@reddit
People attacking my property are the ones that are deciding that their lives are worth less than my stuff. I'm not forcing them to make that decision, theyre doing it on their own.
MacDonniesWifi@reddit
Always has been
Z3roTimePreference@reddit
You're in the wrong sub, buddy
wtfredditacct@reddit
Can we not look up to this kid? Don't get me wrong, his story is great for liberty and his court case was great for self defense law/the 2nd amendment... that doesn't mean he's someone we should be looking up to.
Pojomofo@reddit
Idk I think it’s funny. People get so butthurt over everything these days
CJ4700@reddit
Stop simping for billionaires ya goober.
Orack@reddit
It's so much better to simp for the talking points of competing billionaires like Soros who are in bed with the Clinton's, Chaney's, US AID anti democratic propaganda supporting regime change operations and the military industrial complex.
MarlinMaverick@reddit
Elon is doing everything you think Soros is doing
Hentai_Yoshi@reddit
You are so obtuse, Soros sucks, Musk sucks. Someone can believe these two things at the same time.
portalrattman@reddit
the tesla stocks are down i had 1550 dollars in there
bofadoze@reddit
Sucks for you lol should have gotten out when the card started turning hard to the right. Made my profit and got out
PaperPigGolf@reddit
Yeah, im not going out there to protect tsla dealerships...
ChipKellysShoeStore@reddit
Do disproportionate responses violate the NAP?
IMO, they do. I can’t shoot someone if they bump into me on the street.
PapiRob71@reddit
Pretty sure they did a tiiiny bit more than 'bump into' him
yoemejay@reddit
Crybaby is a hero lol.
blizzardwizard88@reddit
Elon needs to get more Koreans owning his dealerships
myownbrothermichael@reddit
Pharaca@reddit
His heart goes out to you.
ageton@reddit
This is not what being libertarian is about.
ConsiderationNew6295@reddit
Not everyone here has Elon’s d in their mouth. The chaos he’s creating is far divorced from my libertarian sensibility. I don’t support the vandalism at all, but invoking this image misses the mark for me.
CigarRecon@reddit
Agreed.
lauraklupin@reddit
Fuck this guy and fuck Elon
DerpDerper909@reddit
Kyle is regarded. But Tesla owners should arm themselves, I agree with that. I also think Tesla should have armed security.
Short-Exercise-8374@reddit
Highly regarded
DerpDerper909@reddit
I hate that MF face for real lmao.
jaqueh@reddit
i own 2 teslas. let's not incite the general public to exercise their hatred towards my car when I'm not near my car
earth_surfer@reddit
The sad reality is it’s just going to make insurance rates go up. I don’t like the idea of my vehicle being vandalized but at the end of the day it’s just an insurance claim to repair it.
ChainringCalf@reddit
Tesla dealerships aren't allowed within my state lines, though!
IsawitinCroc@reddit
Bro, Kyle is retired. There aren't riots...yet and you gotta protect urself and ur loved ones.
DoubleDumpsterFire@reddit
Wrong sub Twink