What allegedly "Cockney" slang did you actually hear used growing up, or still use now?

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That_Setting_423@reddit

Jacks, short for Jack the Rippers….your slippers

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Apples is short for apples and pears = stairs. Dog is short for dog and bone = phone. Frog is short for frog and toad = road. Ball is short fo ball a chalk = walk. Titfer is short for titfer tat = hat. Round the houses = trousers. Sauspans is short for sauspan lids = kids. Born mile end.

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GoldLongjumping5397@reddit

Turtles, turtle doves, gloves.

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Powerful-Egg-7045@reddit

Give us a butchers

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Rubberfootman@reddit

It isn’t uncommon for me to use Barnet, and Arris.

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lagoon83@reddit

I love how we got from arse to aris. Aris is a shortening of Aristotle, which is a rhyming slang term for a bottle. Bottle and glass is a rhyming slang term for arse. So we started off by saying "bottle" to mean arse, but then we realised we had another word for that, and started saying aris instead. Language is weird 😏

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Repulsive_Highway_70@reddit

What I tend to find meself is "arris" is more... ah look at the arris on that bird. And "bottle" is... he was full of it earlier but now he's lost his bottle. Ironically both have there place, even if they mean the same thing. Language is indeed weird

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AccurateMuffin7@reddit

It's convoluted rhyming slang. Same for lolly meaning money. Lollipop, poppy red, bread and honey = money

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lagoon83@reddit

Oh, I love that one! Hadn't heard it before.

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dodecahedodo@reddit

I didn't even realise barnet was slang 😆 I thought it was just another word for hair

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Doby_Mick@reddit

Barnet Fair… hair!

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ImplementSome6287@reddit

Sherbert dab cab Bird lime time Picadilly silly Boat race face Gregory peck neck Oxo cube tube Loop the loop soup Army and navy gravy Michael winner dinner Hank marvin starving Alan whickers knickers Round the houses trousers Hairy bum mum German bands hands Lar di dar or jam jar Old pot and pan old man (husband) Brick and mortar daughter Current bun son Scotch pegs legs Mince pies eyes King Leahs ears Hampstead heath teeth Birds nest chest Vera Lynne gin Tumble down the sink drink Rub a dub pub Pigs ears beers Rhythm and blues shoes Daisy roots boots Cat and mouse house Abervergenny penny Deep sea diver fiver Lollipop shop Farmer Giles piles Jeremiah fire Early doors draws (knickers) Dr who poo Brass flute prostitute New Delhi belly Gypsy kiss piss Baked bean queen Uncle jack back Uncle ned bed Almond rocks socks Oily rag fag Cuts and scratches matches Ashes and cinders windows Alphonse ponce Tea leaf thief Chalk farms arms Nanny goat coat Weasel and stoat throat Epsom fly tie Rabbit and pork talk Cain and able table Lionel Blair chair Salmon and trout snout Trouble and strife wife Duchess of fife wife North and south mouth Hubble bubble trouble Scarpa flo go Stinging nettle kettle You and me tea Kermit frog bog

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herne_hunted@reddit

Is "scarper" cockney? It comes from the WW1 naval base at "Scapa Flo" so it might be Navy. You must have heard of "blowing a raspberry". Raspberry tart.

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terryjuicelawson@reddit

I have read that the origin of scarper is Polari (being used by people who may be wary of the law, shall we say), but it could have got mixed with Scapa Flo (go?) somehow. From "gotta scarper!" to "Let's Scapa flo!".

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ComfortableStory4085@reddit

It is Polari, originally from Italian.

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Slaoiste@reddit

I was under the impression that Polari was much more Romani and Yiddish based, than Italian.

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terryjuicelawson@reddit

Got to be really, I just wonder if people didn't know the etymology it gets mixed up at a later time.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

I know scarper is claimed as cockney in some of the lists but that's one of the ones that I think is tenuous bullshit (way more likely to be from italian scappare, which is also the origin of the word escape). I hadn't thought about blowing a raspberry - I think because it's like loaf, one where you only ever use it in a very specific phrase & it's lost any original meaning it might have had. I'll blow a raspberry and it means doing the tongue thing, it doesn't actually mean farting any more, iyswim.

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herne_hunted@reddit

Shame about scarper. In my head I hear it in a 1950's London gangster movie but scappare was around before Scapa Flo so it must have been a wartime thing. You're right about rasperry, the meaning's moved away from the original slang.

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SoYorkish@reddit

Scarper's been around since the 1840's. *Scappare* is the Italian for escape, so it's likely derived from that.

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Fluffy_Juggernaut_@reddit

That means it's probably Polari then

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LuminalDjinn11@reddit

I love these! Can you explain the Half-Inch, Ruby, Syrup, Riddle and Barnet ones? I apologize, as an American (for so so much!! Oh my GOD so much!!) for not being able to figure out the derivations of these.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

half-inch = pinch; ruby murray (popular 1950s singer); Jimmy Riddle = piddle (country star); syrup of figs = wig. half-inch and syrup are probably legit; ruby is possibly legit but got popularised by a 1980s TV programme here so the origins are unclear; Riddle makes me suspicious as some people say Jimmy and some say Riddle and the guy wasn't exactly a big thing here, but it's widely used so ????

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LuminalDjinn11@reddit

Oh what a brilliant answer! Thank you for taking the time to help me understand the derivations. Fantastic.

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iFlipRizla@reddit

Tom tit = shit. Barney = Barney and ruble = trouble Dog or dog and bone = phone. Carsey = toilet Probably more that I can’t think of

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Queen_of_London@reddit

Carsey is khazi. It's Polari not rhyming slang, but there's a lot of crossover.

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ElleonEarth80@reddit

My dad (from Plaistow) was also say “Richard” as in Richard III - turd

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SuccessfulEngine9210@reddit

Yes and pony pronounced ‘parney’ ie going for a parney. Pony and trap = crap

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PraterViolet@reddit

I suppose telling porkies is perhaps the most commonly used? Maybe take a butchers, too?

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FatBloke4@reddit

I was puzzled how the use of some terms changed e.g. Pony => pony and trap => crap But later, Pony was apparently changed to mean a tenner.

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Largeperson@reddit

Pony is slang for £25.

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FatBloke4@reddit

That's inflation for you

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Fancy-Professor-7113@reddit

Bethnel Green here, ones I've proper heard people say are China (mate), Plates (feet), Raspberry (less said about that one the better), Syrup (wig), Bird (time in prison), Brassic (skint) and Threepennys (tits). I feel like things like Brittanys for beer are made up by Guy Richie or something.

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CharlotteKartoffeln@reddit

Brassic is from boracic lint (a medical dressing) for skint, pronounced, er, brassic. Though if you can only afford to eat cabbage it makes sense too.

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Dutch_Slim@reddit

Raspberry 😉

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reddit__alpha@reddit

Threepennys is a new one for me. I’d always heard “Bristols” instead.

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DjSpelk@reddit

Thrupenny bits.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

> China (mate), Oh! I'd forgotten 'me old china'. But mostly only used ironically vs. bird which did come up occassionally.

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Big-Swing3912@reddit

two and eight- in a state, used frequently by my nan when my brother was having tantrum. i use it now and get lots of questions by people that haven't heard it before, their faces are hilarious

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WithnailsCoat@reddit

Plates of meat - feet Apples and pears - stairs Cherry pies, or mince pies - eyes Dustbin lids - kids From East Yorkshire, Irish descent, no idea where it all came from.

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londonflare@reddit

The lady in the sandwich shop used to ask if I wanted any rocking horse (sauce).

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scotianheimer@reddit

My uncle had a friend who owned a black cab, and he loved telling us of the time he asked him how cabbie life was going: “Yeah, modifications done - got me Terrences installed, now I’m raspberry friendly”.

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ConvertedHorse@reddit

jacksy meaning arse, not sure if it's cockney rhyming slang though

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discosappho@reddit

I’m a cockney. Here are some less mentioned/known pieces of slang: Taters (mould) - cold Daisies (daisy roots) - boots Dickie dirt - shirt Battle cruiser - boozer - pub Rub a dub - pub Sherbet (dab) - cab Bristol (city) - titty Kettle (and hob) - fob - in modern terms a watch Cherry (hog) - dog Aristotle - bottle - bravery Loaf (of bread) - head Boat (race) - face I suppose - nose Mince (pies) - eyes Rosy (lea) - tea Half inch - pinch - steal Plates of meat - feet Mutt n Jeff pronounced Mutton - deaf Hampstead (Heath) - teeth Honourable mention to Yiddish words such as: Schnoz - nose Schlep - travel far Shtum - keep quiet/shut up Shvitz - sweat And Romani: Cushti - good Wonga - money Mush - man Cosh - baton Nark- snitch Shiv - knife Random words and phrases I don’t know the origin of some of which are Polari too: I don’t give a monkeys/toss/rats arse - don’t care Brass - prostitute Dilly boy - gay male prostitute Clobber - clothes Strides - trousers Shanks’ pony - to walk Brassic - skint - broke Snout - tobacco - probs from when everyone did snuff Rabbit - talk a lot Cakehole - mouth Arras - darts Bent as a nine bob note - corrupt person or gay person Snide - fake or counterfeit Doing bird - in prison Legless - drunk Malarkey - nonsense Moolar - dirty/dodgy money Blag - fake it Naff - bit shit Mince/mincing - (if a man) acting in a camp or feminine manner Wallop - punch

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batteryforlife@reddit

Never knew so much of my vocabulary came from Romani or Polari!

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discosappho@reddit

To be honest, it makes sense that Romani vocab would get about the whole UK. Especially as until rather recently the Romani did a lot of seasonal farm work all over the country.

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SeePerspectives@reddit

“Brassic” is CRS from Boracic Lint, which was a medical wound dressing commonly used to treat leg ulcers.

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discosappho@reddit

Thanks. Some terms are so pervasive that the rhyming portion becomes forgotten knowledge. Tbh I wish I had picked my grandparent's brains a bit more before they died. I do use all of the above in normal speech, but my parents use many more cockney rhyming slang terms than me, and in turn, their parents used more than them.

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GroomingTips96@reddit

Raspberry.. I.E Raspberry Ripple cripple.

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Linfords_lunchbox@reddit

[Here you go](https://youtu.be/D2NaWdEg9EM?si=if42_OOo61bEVL-b) - almost exclusively in rhyming slang. He grew up in Walthamstow before moving to Southend (still populated with Cockneys on their jollies I'm the summer months)

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Linfords_lunchbox@reddit

Kettle (watch) Iron (gay) Daisies (boots) Germans (hands) Piccolo (suit)

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goodassjournalist@reddit

Kicked (or other things) up the Harris, which had an H added to it at some point but is very pleasing to say. It’s supposedly Aris / Aristotle / Bottle / Bottle and glass / Arse. I’m sure it’s all bollocks but, again, it’s very pleasing to say. And anyone who disagrees gets a kick up the Harris.

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Fuzzy_Cake_5928@reddit

Off to the Junior (Hoilett = toilet)

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jurwell@reddit

Mickey Bliss = piss. Where “are you taking the Mickey?” comes from. Not sure if it counts but a moment that’s lived in my head since I heard it was when Peter Andre and Katie Price were on I’m A Celebrity, and Peter wrote her a love poem of allegedly Cockney slang. One of the lines was “I’ll put me ones ‘n’ twos in yer bottle of glass.” Obviously bottle of glass = arse but I never got what he actually meant by “ones ‘n’ twos.” I assumed it was fingers but I’ve thought about it way too much and it’s pissed me off since!

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Apart-Purchase9580@reddit

Telling porkies (porky pies = lies), are you having a bubble? (Bubble bath = laugh) I haven't got a scooby (scooby doo = clue), Brahms and Liszt (pissed)

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greatdrams23@reddit

"Use your loaf ", "Me old China", " I feel on my 'arris", "give us a butcher's", "you berk" Bread, mate (China plate), arse (aristotle is bottle, bottle and glass is arse), butcher's hook is look. And Berkshire hunt.

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OkScheme9867@reddit

Porkies, butchers, loaf were all definitely used in our house. my grandad always called people "treacle" which I assumed was a London thing. my uncle called Americans septic tanks, don't know if that was actually slang or just something he said

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splickety-lit@reddit

I only realised butchers was rhyming slang last week. I always thought it was because a butchers shop is a place that you would likely go in to have a look at what they have because the cuts and prices actually change. There I was driving down the road last week, and it hit me Butchers Hook.

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shnu62@reddit

Septic tank- yank

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arfur-sixpence@reddit

"Septic" for certain americans seems quite appropriate currently.

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homelaberator@reddit

Septic for "yank" is pretty widespread, even outside the UK.

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original_oli@reddit

The Aussies even put their own twist on it: seppos

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wildOldcheesecake@reddit

Yep, I’m from east London. Old school east Londoners that are still kicking (look at you grandad, don’t leave us yet) still talk like this. It’s dying out, though I’m trying my best to keep it alive

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Graz279@reddit

'arris is such a complicated one to explain 😁

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homelaberator@reddit

Through media, I've heard bubble also meaning Greek. I assume bubble and squeak. Without context, it sounds like some awful slur.

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Maverick_Heathen@reddit

I thought it was having a bubble as in having a bubble bath - having a laugh

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homelaberator@reddit

Yes, it's both. I responded to their comment saying it's "bubble bath - laugh" by saying that it's *also* used to mean Greek (bubble and squeak).

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Maverick_Heathen@reddit

Ah yeah shit reading on my part! 😄

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Glad_Act_8587@reddit

It's well-known as a very tasty way of using up Sunday dinner leftovers

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homelaberator@reddit

Yes, I am aware of what bubble and squeak is, but when you hear the slightly foreign looking, swarthy, Mediterranean type being called a "bubble" without the context of rhyming slang you do wonder if it is a slur so horrible that you've never heard it before.

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One_Brain9206@reddit

Abraham Lincoln ( stinking) shortened to Abe when someone passes wind without letting on

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Aggravating-Mix-9130@reddit

Radio rental. Meaning mental.

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ramraiderqtx@reddit

Brown Bread

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racloves@reddit

I’m Scottish but I’ve heard pan bread rather than brown bread, now I’m curious if there’s a Glasgow rhyming slang

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TheKnightsTippler@reddit

Always in the most exaggerated Cockney accent. BRAAAN BREAD.

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mrhippoj@reddit

[YOU'RE BROWN BREAD](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/w9O56CEFqFU/sddefault.jpg)

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MartyDonovan@reddit

GTA London remake when?

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AProductiveWardrobe@reddit

Not much to he fair but we moved to Essex from Whitechapel early on, only really "porkie pies', various money related ones.

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Robmeu@reddit

Elephant and Castle, stick it up yer arseh*le

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chunkymonkeyfunk@reddit

I'm from the North but grew up hearing "titfer" (tit for tat) for hat and boat (boat race) for face

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Garth-Vega@reddit

Grumble and grunt

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pburgess22@reddit

Let's have a butchers (butchers hook = look) is a pretty common term.

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Implematic950@reddit

pronounced “Giz-a Butchers” in many areas around the country.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

and it's in my list?

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Implematic950@reddit

Midlands but always a used Porkie pies, butchers hook, Tod, tea leaf, boat race, sky rocket, shrapnel

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anothercynicaloldgit@reddit

Most of the above. I'd add Brassic for 'skint' and 'Mutton' for deaf (boracic lint, Mutt & Jeff). Mostly, I only slip into it when talking to my Dad. I was born in Forest Gate (1966) and lived in Canning Town until we moved out to Basildon when I was 9. My Dad (1941) grew up in East Ham by the Boleyn. His Dad (Limehouse 1899) apparently used to speak backslang. Not much of that has survived. In fact, the only thing I can think of is 'yob'.

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ShineAtom@reddit

I've used brassic for ages and never knew where it came from! So thanks for the clarification. I'm no Cockney but I am a Londoner so perhaps it percolated through.

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anothercynicaloldgit@reddit

A lot does. I've even seen it suggested that 'bread' for money comes from 'bread & honey'. Not entirely convinced tbh.

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ShineAtom@reddit

Not convinced either. I always assumed that it came from the fact that money bought you your daily bread etc. A very 1960s/70s phrase. Along with pad, crash-pad etc. I understand that the modern usage of crash or crash-out is not to go to sleep or stay at someone's pad but to get upset or angry or somewhere in that ballpark. I found it very confusing!

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Graz279@reddit

Nelson / Nelson Mandela - Stella. As in "what you 'avin mate", "oh I'll have a Nelson fanks". And a bit un PC nowadays - Iron / Iron Hoof - Poof. I still raise a smile though when someone who's quite well to do calls someone a Berk thinking its a low grade insult 😁

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ELBF91@reddit

boracic lint - skint

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SpaceWomble64@reddit

I didn’t know that berk was rhyming slang until quite recently, I’ve been using it more since then.

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Inner_Face_9295@reddit

OMG, I've used Berk so much, I never knew it wasn't just a word on its own. Embarrassing!

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VT2-Slave-to-Partner@reddit

I had no idea!

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Ommadawny@reddit

Not even a Scoobie?

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VT2-Slave-to-Partner@reddit

And I'd always wondered where that came from. I feel like an idiot now, because it's so obvious.

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Bashwhufc@reddit

Please elaborate on this

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kotare78@reddit

Berkshire Hunt

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suspicious-donut88@reddit

I think it's Berkley Hunt

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oitekno23@reddit

I read that it is Berkshire...and that's why berk in Berkshire ,is now pronounced 'bark'

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Ok-Decision403@reddit

I think Berkshire was pronounced as Bark- shire for much longer than the rhyming slang - Wikipedia says it's from the 30s (and, of course, it's from "Berkley Hunt" which is also pronounced as Bark-) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Hunt#:~:text=The%20Old%20Berkeley%20Hunt%20developed,example%20of%20Cockney%20rhyming%20slang.

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Ok-Decision403@reddit

It is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Hunt#:~:text=The%20Old%20Berkeley%20Hunt%20developed,example%20of%20Cockney%20rhyming%20slang. I think think people think it's "Berkshire Hunt" (which has never existed as a hunt) because they're more familiar with the county than the hunt.

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Bashwhufc@reddit

Thank you

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EdmundTheInsulter@reddit

'arris Tweed one would presume.

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Glenagalt@reddit

Fair guess, but no. That one evolved.... Arse> Bottle and glass (just "bottle") Bottle> Aristotle (shortened to "aris") ...and one stage further.... aris> Plaster of Paris.

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Calm-Glove3141@reddit

Claret- blood Boat-boat race -face On my jax-Jack jones - alone 2 n 8 - state

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Resident_Win_1058@reddit

My east end nan always used 2 and 8 to mean state but my child brain got hung up on the maths, and for years wondered what the connection was between 10 and being in a right tizz.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

> Claret- blood Not sure this is rhyming slang/cockney though? It's just an obvious metaphor for red stuff?

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gjs78@reddit

Claret jug - blood. Said with an accent they rhyme.

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MTRCNUK@reddit

Yeah claret just means red. Maybe they got confused because a lot of cockneys support West Ham (claret and blue).

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Calm-Glove3141@reddit

I was just thinking of slang geezers use , not particularly rhyming slang .

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Calm-Glove3141@reddit

True true

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lethargyundone@reddit

My cockney partner always says claret and it really bothers me for some reason

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TheWyrdSmyth@reddit

Dad was born in Bow - we grew up with a lot of rhyming slang. One I've not seen mentioned yet is Rosie Lee for tea - as in 'having a cuppa Rosie', or 'Make us a Rosie would ya?'. I don't know if it's CRS, specifically, but it was always used in our house, and everyone who came over knew what it meant, and 'Rosie?' was always the first thing asked when visiting.

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jimbodinho@reddit

Jodrell = wank

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Alone_Instruction_13@reddit

Butchers (look). That’s pretty much it tbh.

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Ommadawny@reddit

'Ark at the Lionels on that muppet.

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spikeboy4@reddit

"sorry, I'm going a bit mutton Jeff" it's still a common one I hear a lot around where I live

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ZondosChin@reddit

Tom (tomfoolery) - jewellery

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Flat_Fault_7802@reddit

Barnet Fair

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FranticSpeculation@reddit

Pears for stairs Jone for alone (derives from Jonah and the whale) Guv for boss (derives from governor)

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Adorable_Misfit@reddit

I'm not from London, but my manager is, though I'm not sure exactly where. He's also kinda old - mid-sixties, at a guess, not quite old enough to retire, but almost. He says "cream crackered". He also says a bunch of other things I've never heard anyone say but him. For example, he referred to someone as a "fridge" - the exact quote was "I don't trust that fridge". When I asked him what he meant, because I genuinely thought he was randomly talking about a kitchen appliance, he said: "Fridge freezer - it means a geezer" and seemed very surprised I didn't know that. I genuinely thought he'd made it up, but I googled it and apparently it is CRS.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

> I googled it and apparently it is CRS. It absolutely is not. Fridge Freezers weren't even a thing until the very end of the 20thc; it's just another modern invention by who knows who, who knows where. It's rhyming slang, sure, but it's not CRS.

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Adorable_Misfit@reddit

Then Google lied. Wouldn't be the first time, lol. Having said that, can new words not be added to the CRS vocabulary? Most languages and dialects evolve over time - could that not be the case here? Or is there a "cut-off date" and any rhyming slang invented after a certain point doesn't count as CRS (even if it should happen to originate in the right area)?

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TrashbatLondon@reddit

I’m from Islington so not massively slang heavy, despite what a certain nepo baby singer might have you believe, but certainly butchers, porkies, cobblers, cream crackered were common. Jimmy Riddle for a piddle and Pony (and trap) for a crap were also used. Brassic was also common but I didn’t realise it was rhyming slang until much later. Things like “Melt” (meltdown = clown) feel like relatively recent inventions, and possibly inorganic (Danny Dyer or Guy Ritchie movies perhaps). I also remember Aris, Ruby and and a few other clichéd ones from Only Fools and Horses but never from real life.

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Bacon4Lyf@reddit

What singer is this? I couldn’t think of any from Islington

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TrashbatLondon@reddit

Louis Dunford. His song is used pre match by Arsenal but the lyrics outside the chorus are pure mockney nonsense. His mum is Linda Robson.

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PsychologicalDrone@reddit

Not strictly CRS as it’s far too recent, but Scooby Doo for Clue. I say “haven’t got a scooby” far more often than I say “haven’t got a clue”

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DoctorOctagonapus@reddit

I think it counts as Cockney rhyming slang, if you accept that it's a constantly evolving language.

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beingthehunt@reddit

I think there is a bit of a misconception that any slang constructed of rhyming words (and then dropping part of the phrase) is Cockney Rhyming Slang. It's a common way to make slang words all over the world. I did a quick Google and interestingly, it looks like this example of rhyming slang likely originates in Scots! [This](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18070895.boorach-scots-words-need-get-next-weeks/) article, along with the OED, finds the earliest known use of scooby, to mean a clue, in the *Glasgow Herald* in 1993. >Your lawyer telling youse that he husnae a scooby and youse can jist take a wee tirravie tae yersel.

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SuccessfulEngine9210@reddit

My grandfather who I lived with as a child in the 50’s 60’s always called his hat his ‘titfer’. If it was cold he would say it was ‘taters’. he was born in Stoke Newington. Tit for tat = hat Potatoes in the mould = cold

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heyyouupinthesky@reddit

I still use taters for cold now, I didn't even know the full rhyming slang 😃

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Far_Butterscotch_646@reddit

I have heard 'titfer' in the wild too, by a previous boss of mine who was in the shmutter business, but Yiddish would need a separate thread. Although, down East London the two (Yiddish and Cockney) are often heard together.

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SloightlyOnTheHuh@reddit

My mum always called it a titfa, so I do as well

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

I like these, they sound way more legit than some of the claims on the online lists... (and are actual rhyming slang, not some weirdo saying the whole phrase).

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rackarhack@reddit

I been wondering something that I haven't wanted to start my own thread about but maybe I could ask you since you seem to know a thing or two about London accents. I been watching Supernanny (Jo Frost). Does she have any Cockney in her accent? One noticeable thing about her accent is she says 'asseptable' (acceptable) and 'esatly' (exactly). Where in England/London do they say s for c like that? I am guessing she is from London somewhere but I don't actually know that.

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Sensitive-Donkey-205@reddit

She's not Cockney. It's more just Estuary English with a mild speech impediment.

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No_Astronaut3059@reddit

Aren't they just the same thing...? /s

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

Never seen her so can't help with this one; I have no ear for accents myself so I couldn't pick a legit southwest london one from one faked up for the TV (I do know that a lot of media people use an accent coach & it's as likely to 'de-posh' them as to take out a regional twang).

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rackarhack@reddit

Ah alright, I am pretty clueless myself as I am actually Swedish (although grew up partly in England so not entirely clueless). I am convinced Supernanny's accent is real though, she's just too consistent with her peculiarities and has spoken it on TV since 2004.

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Oli99uk@reddit

I didn't grow up with it but the title of a Danny Dyer film made me chuckle: "Is Harry on the Boat"?

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bladefiddler@reddit

My mam (1955, geordie) favoured 'berk' as an insult. I believe she thought it something akin to 'twit' or 'moron' etc. It wasn't until after she passed that I learned its full 'Berkeley hunt' connotations. Shame, because she completely abhorred the word c*nt and I'd have loved to see her face when she found out.

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EdmundTheInsulter@reddit

But then there's stuff like sod, not really as rude as it's origins. As in odds and sods

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bladefiddler@reddit

Sod is questionable as its also an old term used for turf or grass, also sodden (soaking) - as opposed to your apparent presumption of sodomite. Similarly though, my grandma and mother both thought nothing of using 'bugger' extremely likely - like, to young children they'd amusedly remark on one being a 'cheeky little bugger'.

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jimbobsqrpants@reddit

I always thought that the Berkeley Hunt thing was made up after the fact

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Lammtarra95@reddit

Almost certainly.

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Antergaton@reddit

"Half inch." I still use it, confuses those around me as now live in the midlands.

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Competitive-Sense155@reddit

Battlecruiser = boozer Nuclear sub = pub 🍻

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

OK this confirms that some of it is just made up stuff! Or did/do you really say "I'm going down the nuclear" on a Friday night?!

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SuccessfulEngine9210@reddit

Traditionally pub is rubbidy (rubbidy dub)

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

😂😂😂😂

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Competitive-Sense155@reddit

Lived east london for years and drink in a fair few locals. There's original terms and updated ones used by young and old alike. Just evolution pal. And it's all made up anyway. That's the whole point of rhyming slang. Whether it was years ago, or in the now.

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MoebiusForever@reddit

Pretty sure this is just from Lock, Stock and not real.

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Ethelred_Unread@reddit

Dad's a cockney, though grew up in Highgate, so in addition to yours he did call stairs apples, or apples and pears.

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flippertyflip@reddit

I don't think Highgate is cockney. Too far north. https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/1Gs2LUFGaO

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discosappho@reddit

There are cockneys all over London - it’s a culture. You don’t have to be born within the historic or modern sound of the bow bells that’s something non cockneys think lol.

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Colossal_Squids@reddit

This is my uncle’s argument. But it would be, because he was born in Basildon.

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discosappho@reddit

I’m from East London and meet the bow bell criteria myself but know many a people who are by heritage and linguistic terms absolute cockneys, who live in areas outside that map eg Waltham Forest, Rotheride, Kings Cross, Camden At the end of the day as long as posh barristers living in double fronted Georgian Finsbury mansions are saying teehee look at the map I’m a cockney I don’t really care though.

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Ethelred_Unread@reddit

Yeah, he was born within the sound of Bow, was in Bethnal Green initially, then moved out to Highgate. Hence the "though"

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flippertyflip@reddit

Ah. Fair enough.

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mangonel@reddit

Apples is definitely kosher, my older relatives used to say it.

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BenTheMotionist@reddit

Berk was a big learning curve for 13 year old me. An old man called another old man in the local shop a Berk and the sabre rattling that bloody carried on for weeks in the local pub, with the different old man factions sitting on either side of the bar, looking grumpy at each other knowing nothing but a cross word and the aggressive swing of a walking stick, was one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Then I found out (before internet times) that Berk is literally an insult on par with 'Cunt'. An old cockney rhyming slang tern taken from Berkeley Hunt...

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TREBILCOCK@reddit

Sky Rocket for Pocket and Rory for Floor

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Aaronw94@reddit

Lionel Blair- Hair Not too many others as i grew up and still live in Tyne and Wear

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front-wipers-unite@reddit

"Barnet" and "Berk" I used a lot. "China" is something I hear a lot, mainly from South Africans.

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Major_Chard_6606@reddit

My Mum used to call me a Berk. I only just learnt what that means. I bet she didn’t/doesn’t know. Can’t wait to tell her.

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Colossal_Squids@reddit

My ex called me it once. Only once.

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Colossal_Squids@reddit

“Duchess” and “raspberry,” as in “blowing a raspberry” were still in use when I was a kid. It’s more that there are new ones springing up to suit the names of people in the public eye, you don’t hear so many of the old ones because the new ones are circulating instead.

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OrganizationOk5418@reddit

Barnet - hair Cowdenbeath - teeth Barney McGrew - poo (actually, I made that one up, also see "Humpty")

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90210fred@reddit

Not seen anyone say Richard (the third) bird - that's definitely outdated as bird itself has dropped from usage. Pony might be a docker thing

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arubait@reddit

Born in the SE close to London. All of the first list was normal jargon except "riddle" which was always a "jimmy". "ruby" is a recent one and not CRS.

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DjSpelk@reddit

Del Boy uses 'Ruby' in Only Fools.

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TrashbatLondon@reddit

Ruby Murray’s heyday was the late 50s, so probably not that recent, in the grand scheme of things.

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arubait@reddit

Perhaps. But curry houses surely only became ubiquitous much later. Fully agree with you regarding tea leaf, cream crackers, apples, dog, frog and Kyber. I live in Geordie land now. A fascinating place for lovers of slang and dialect but not relevant to this discussion.

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TrashbatLondon@reddit

I always understood the curry house explosion to he a 60s and 70s thing. No idea how accurate that is. Curry houses as a concept date back to the 19th century though.

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Crazyh@reddit

The first Indian restaurant to do home delivery opened in 1810, they have been around a lot longer than people think

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TrashbatLondon@reddit

That is a very cool piece of info 👍

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Omnissiah40K@reddit

I dont know why butwhenn I was at uni in London early 00's Chelsea players started to become slang Jimmy Flloyd (Hasselbaink) - Wank Gianluca (Vialli) - Charlie/Coke Probably because we were doing a lot of coke and a lot of wanking 😅

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90210fred@reddit

Arthur (J Rank)

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GammaPhonica@reddit

I use “cream crackered” a lot. I also use “aris” and “thrupennies” when I want to be deliberately crude.

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Bacon4Lyf@reddit

I hear it all from my dad which he heard from his dad before him, but whilst they did grow up in London it wasn’t a particularly cockney area so not sure how that all got started. As a result I grew up using a lot of the words and I’m only learning now that it’s cockney, when I’ve never lived anywhere near London let alone the east end

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myawn@reddit

I frequently heard porky-pies (lies), tom-tit (shit), and ruby (curry) growing up, but no idea why as I grew up nowhere near London. Half my family is north-eastern and the other half Irish!

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Blutos_Beard@reddit

Having a Barclays. For the innocent: Barclays = Barclays Bank = Wank

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WritePissedEditSober@reddit

Just wanted to add ‘Taking the Mickey’ and ‘Rabbiting on’ for talking too much are two that people don’t realise are cockney rhymes also.

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ellasfella68@reddit

Please explain.

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WritePissedEditSober@reddit

‘Mickey Bliss’ is meant to be the full rhyme, to make ‘Taking the piss’, and ‘Rabbit & Pork’ is the full rhyme for talk, to make ‘Talking on [too much]’.

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ellasfella68@reddit

Thank you.

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JJGOTHA@reddit

Eartha Kit

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Fluffy_Juggernaut_@reddit

My mates would sometimes say they had a bad case of the "jazz singers"

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CheekyYoghurts@reddit

Born and bred in a small town in the South of the Midlands and I've heard or use almost all of these, both OP's and others in the comments.

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ChampionshipOk5046@reddit

Pete Tong, it's all gone Pete Tong

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No_Shine_4707@reddit

Born and bred in Bitminghan......still went up the apples and pears, answered the dog and bone, couldnt Adam & Eve it, had a butchers at something, told porkies, used my loaf and often got Hank Marvin.

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EdmundTheInsulter@reddit

I've heard most of those plus pony and trap, merchant banker, dog and bone. Allegedly 'banger me a Gregory' -bangers and mash, cash - Gregory peck, cheque. My mates dad told this from his national service by a cockney he met, although it was in Mansfield, duck

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ellasfella68@reddit

I heard “sausaging a goose”. Sausage and mash, goose’s neck.

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yugjet@reddit

I worked in the City in the mid-late 80s and it was full of East End boys. I had no idea what they were on about but I remember being told I had a nice whistle (and flute = suit), north London Cypriots being called bubbles (and squeek = greek) and a lot of speculation about who was wearing a syrup.

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Kiloyankee-jelly46@reddit

Technically not rhyming slang, but if a cockney needs to level up from a 'butcher's', they'll have a propaganda.

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kestrelita@reddit

South East here, my family used butchers and porkies. I think they became generic slang by the time I came along.

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CthulhusEvilTwin@reddit

Tom Tit - Shit Toad and frog - downstairs bog

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trysca@reddit

I definitely heard apples & pears as a kid in the 70s - in sw Devon!

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SilasMarner77@reddit

“Dancers” for stairs (dancing bears). I’m from the north but my grandmother used this expression for some reason.

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DavidJonnsJewellery@reddit

Not rhyming slang, but Conkers was an old term for money, specifically a pound

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kotare78@reddit

Apples and pears

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jnnewbe@reddit

My dad uses this quite often

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StillJustJones@reddit

I still use older rhyming slang mostly to avoid swearing around my nipper. One that fell out of my face this morning was ‘Aris’. Aris = Arse (Aristotle = bottle = bottle and glass = arse)

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OkScheme9867@reddit

Is aris cockney slang, I always thought it was Polari?

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StillJustJones@reddit

It’s definitely rhyming slang. Although. there’s some overlap between many of the coded languages and dialects that were used in the past. Examples of polari that feel like Cockney rhyming slang but aren’t are things like ‘meat and 2 veg’ (to mean cock’n’balls) and ‘Naff’ (to mean not good)

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homelaberator@reddit

Definitely overlap twixt the two

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EdmundTheInsulter@reddit

I thought it must be 'arris Tweed. Got that one wrong son

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StillJustJones@reddit

Ah…. No… that would be: Hello Mr Drug Dealer, I would like to buy a vicar’s of Nelly please. Vicars daughter = quarter = quieter of an ounce = 7 grams Nelly = Nelly Duff = puff = cannabis I couldn’t guarantee how widespread this was…. My sense is it would be understood but was probably quite niche to the area I grew up in.

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StillJustJones@reddit

Ah…. No… that would be: Hello Mr Drug Dealer, I would like to buy a vicar’s of Nelly please. Vicars daughter = quarter = quieter of an ounce = 7 grams Nelly = Nelly Duff = puff = cannabis I couldn’t guarantee how widespread this was…. My sense is it would be understood but was probably quite niche to the area I grew up in.

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Dancinglemming@reddit

My dad and his family are all from Bow originally.

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unbelievablydull82@reddit

A fair since I grew up and live in London. I use "Riddle", and "Porkies" regularly, and other ones that I can't remember. I'm Irish, my wife is Spanish, it's not uncommon for me to say a sentence that is a mix of cockney, Spanish, Irish, and English.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

> I use "Riddle", and "Porkies" regularly, I'd forgotten about porkies! The riddle one is interesting as I've also used riddle, but logically the slang should be Jimmy - and people in this thread say they use it that way too.

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unbelievablydull82@reddit

I mix it up, sometimes Jimmy, sometimes Riddle lol

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Horstachio@reddit

Nice cuppa rosie

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Newsaddik@reddit

Skin and blister - sister

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slc_14@reddit

"Apples and pears" was a clear sign it was time for bed. I still use that to this day.

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CollarFine8916@reddit

Most of these. Grew up in London in the 1970’s and 80’s but in leafy Hampstead. The headmaster at the very odd primary school I went to until 13 used all these. Also khazi, and he had a huge bong in his office.

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jdillathegreatest@reddit

This is taking donkeys! (Donkeys ears = years)

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DrunkenPangolin@reddit

Is this where it comes from? I know a few people including my dad that say "donkeys years". I've definitely heard it more with the years attachment and never as ears, though sometimes as donkeys by itself

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IndelibleIguana@reddit

"He's aving a bubble aint he?" Is one still in common use amongst people I know.

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Mischeese@reddit

I still use that one as well.

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Hankstudbuckle@reddit

Round my way in North London always used bubble (and squeak) for Greek. There's a lot of Cypriots.

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oblectament@reddit

Slight sidebar: apparently 'on your todd' is a reference to a jockey called Todd Sloane who invented the sort of leaning-forward riding style jockeys use today. It was such a game-changer that he was always way out ahead of the competition, hence Todd Sloan / on your own / on your todd! I only learnt this recently and it's new favourite fact :)

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Mischeese@reddit

I still use ‘shrapnel’ for coins. I don’t know if that’s a my Dad thing or other cockney’s still use it?

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terryjuicelawson@reddit

I have heard that before, but it isn't rhyming slang, more the fact it is small bits of metal.

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

I use that one - don't think it's regional London at all though, heard it pretty commonly across the UK.

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MDK1980@reddit

Saffer here. Heard "my China" a lot growing up. China plate = mate.

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RMMastin@reddit

Going up the apple and pears.

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danz_buncher@reddit

S E P P O

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MsDragonPogo@reddit

Born and raised in the East Midlands. Apples and pears used regularly. Others that were used around our house: Whistle = suit barnet = hair Mutt 'n Jeff = deaf Probably others as well, it's been a few decades. Mostly these were my dad. Both parents also born and raised in the E Midlands.

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lidlberg@reddit

Ruby Murray and Raspberry Ripple

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dodecahedodo@reddit

What about blowing a raspberry (tart / fart)

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MillyMcMophead@reddit

Yeah, we use the raspberry one liberally in my household due to us all being raspberries one way or another. I'm from the SE originally but live in NE Scotland and we can easily confuse the locals with things we say in everyday life. My family all come from North London and our list of commonly used terms are the same as OPs.

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Dangerous-Pair7826@reddit

My maaa always tells me to bugger off, tried to explain but the habit still sticks

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NoVermicelli3192@reddit

Sky (pocket)

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OkScheme9867@reddit

I've not heard this what does it mean?

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StressedOldChicken@reddit

Sky rocket - pocket

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SearchStack@reddit

‘Have a butchers’ always saying this

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Significant_Froyo899@reddit

Why does Jeremy Vine occasionally say “Ello” like he’s imitating a Steve Harley cockney rebel?

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Lostinthebackground@reddit

I use butchers, scooby, boat, bubble regularly.

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True_Scientist1170@reddit

Apples and pears (stairs ) 😂 if it’s right my dad knows it he lived and worked in London nightclubs and taxi he even sounds it that’s the only one I can remember

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jeremybennett@reddit

Well I'm a quarter cockney, and the only one I regularly use is butchers, as in "gi's a butchers". I occasionally use cream crackered. My sister uses rather more. It must be purely familial origin, since none of us have lived in East London.

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kurai-samurai@reddit

I remember one of my dad's Eagle annuals had a list of more family friendly CRM attached to the PC49 stories.

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cantankersauruss@reddit

"No saucepans in the kitchen" is still a common phrase in my immediate and wider family to tell children to get out the kitchen. Saucepan (lids) = kids.

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mrhippoj@reddit

"pony" - "pony trap" - "crap" "Barclay's" - "Barclay's bank" - "wank"

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SamVimesBootTheory@reddit

Funny thing about tea leaf is there's actually a Generation 3 My Little Pony (the version of the toy from the early 00s) with that name which has some unintentional implications

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yesbutnobutokay@reddit

Aris, for arse. As in pain in the or kick up the. From - Aristotle, bottle, bottle and glass, arse.

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SunAndStratocasters@reddit

Surprised to see nobody mention all the money ones: Sky diver Cock and hen Score Monkey Pony Bag of sand

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No_Camp_7@reddit

Been using cream crackered my whole life

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KermitsPuckeredAnus2@reddit

Up the Gary is a fave in our household.

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barriedalenick@reddit

Aris is my favourite and one i use a lot. Aris is from Aristotle which is slang for bottle, bottle and glass is arse. So aris is arse as in "I threw him out on his aris"

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alphahydra@reddit

Don't know if it's CRS, because I've always heard it in Scotland, but... Donald Duck = Luck Seems to be particularly used for *bad luck*. Not super common, but common enough everyone would understand it. It's rare, but not totally unheard of, to say just Donald. "Made plans and now it's pishin doon, that's just my Donald Duck" "I hope I never have a heart attack like Auld Jim " "Ach, it's just your Donald Duck, mate."

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AF_II@reddit (OP)

> Don't know if it's CRS, because I've always heard it in Scotland, but... See, this is the thing, I think a lot of individuals just started up their own rhyming slang, claimed it as cockney, and this has accelerated with the internet & fake lists. It's not that no one actually said "down on my Donald", it's just that it's got nothing to do with CRM.

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lankyman-2000@reddit

Porkies Ruby

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SUMMATMAN@reddit

Not a cockney (Sheffield), but my mum was partial to "porkies" ie pork pies/lies growing up. Could've originated from east London and made its way north?

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Minky_Dave_the_Giant@reddit

My Geordie mam used to also use "porkies" for "lies" back in the 80s.

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gooderz84@reddit

I still hear 'pat cash' and 'jimmy' minutes before halftime to this day up the footy.

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MillyMcMophead@reddit

I grew up in Hertfordshire just off the A10 where my family from North London moved to in the sixties because they were on the up. All of OPs list was common in my house growing up and we still use them in everyday life despite now living in NE Scotland. We're all raspberries in one way or another due to being old knackers and every time we go out in the car it's "have you got your raspberry badge?". It's never called anything else! I know, not at all PC.

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Weird-Statistician@reddit

Here's me thinking berk was a relatively polite insult 😂

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trev2234@reddit

I grew up south London, and always knew what all these terms meant (not the rhythm, but the actual meaning). I’ve never actually used any of them in conversation, unless I’m putting on a fake cockney accent for mates.

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Maximum_Scientist_85@reddit

Not a cockerney by any stretch. West Midlands. Use barnet, cobblers, butchers, half-inch, riddle, tod, cream cracked, scooby/scoobied, Some of those I'd used knowing them to be CRM (riddle, cream cracker, butchers) - some I had no idea (barnet, cobblers, half-inch). Scooby/scoobied is an oddity. Fairly obvious it's some kind of rhyming thing, but I'd only heard it in Scotland so assumed it was local to there, at least at that point in time.

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299WF@reddit

“Cream crackered” I use a lot, especially when I’m at work because Scottish people don’t seem to understand it. On the flip side, I do find my self saying “bawbagged” a lot more than I’d care to admit 🤦‍♂️ I do now always use “here comes trouble…” but only when I’m getting picked up at the airport by the other half on my way back from work. She now always replies with “look what the cat dragged in”… it’s our little thing 😂 My Dad always used to call curry “Ruby Murray” and it took me years to figure out what the hell he was going on about.

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hhfugrr3@reddit

Dude, it's ALL made up!! I was born in Mile End and grew up around there. Never used any rhyming slang though. Knew a few blokes who talked in it relentlessly and they were all twats.

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What_Reality_@reddit

My dad used to say “you’re havin a bubble”, as in bubble bath-laugh. I still say it lol. Cream crackered was another one!

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jawide626@reddit

Apples and pears and various other fruit.

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TheKingMonkey@reddit

Plates (of meat) - feet.

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Liquidest_Ocelot@reddit

China Plate - Mate "how's it going me old China?"

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ThatstheTahiCo@reddit

I'd give er one right up the Gary. Gary Glitter, up the shitter.

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pencilrain99@reddit

Did meet any cockneys growing up

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Godscrasher@reddit

Geordie here who’s heard of ‘ducking diving dodging and a dribble’ or something like that. No idea where it’s from.

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vminnear@reddit

I'll have a butcher's.

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MonitorSouthern8704@reddit

Ruby Murray 😋

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