You can see the current state of alliances and where the world is heading by the recent voting on UN resolutions. For instance the nations that voted against de-escalation in Ukraine last month.
Hungary, Israel, Russia, Sudan, North Korea, Burkina Faso and the good ol USA...
yes it is, but the unwashed masses can't and don't want to ever realise or acknowledge that when there are internet karma points to get. Which is just so ironic
Did you just use the words "unwashed masses" unironically to describe people on reddit who disagree with you? This is some next level classist condescension from someone who hasn't mastered capitalization.
Netanyahu can't afford to get on Trump's bad side:
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-843693
This article explicitly claims that Israel was pressured to vote, but I'm not familiar with this source and whether it is reliable or not:
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/trump-administration-insisted-israel-vote-against-ukraine-at-u-n/
It’s so weird how every fascist leader/government seems to be SO afraid of sexuality. Really makes you wonder what went wrong in their upbringing. Tho usually it’s religion.
Things like DEI, woke ideology, and LGBT narratives are often used to drive a wedge between people and traditional conservative or national values. In the long run, it seems like these ideas are being pushed to promote a globalist agenda that could end up weakening national sovereignty. So it is common sense to move away from this movement.
If nationalists will insist on tying themselves to regressive social values, that's their lookout, and people who support progressive values will be turned off by them.
There's nothing inherently nationalist or patriotic about opposing progressive values, and it is perfectly possible to build a kind of progressive civic nationalism like that which exists among the pro-independence crowd in Scotland.
If anything, it's the opposite of patriotism. A country is only its people, so who benefits from encouraging hate against one's own people? I can scarcely think of anything more stupid and self-defeating than a nationalist going out of one's way to denigrate other people of the same ethnic group for being LGBTQ+.
The thing is, there’s really nothing inherently progressive about pushing sex changes or constantly showcasing sexual preferences. In fact, keeping intimate matters private isn’t regressive, it’s just personal. If the goal is to create an equal and respectful society, then constantly forcing LGBT themes into every corner of media and public life doesn’t help.
Over the past decade, entertainment has increasingly turned into a kind of propaganda machine, where covering certain topics seems necessary just to earn recognition or approval from institutions. But instead of fostering acceptance, it’s had the opposite effect people started feeling alienated and even resentful, especially when any opinion that strayed from the mainstream narrative was immediately shamed or labeled as hate. That kind of pressure doesn’t build unity, it just deepens division.
The thing is, there’s really nothing inherently progressive about pushing sex changes or constantly showcasing sexual preferences. In fact, keeping intimate matters private isn’t regressive, it’s just personal. If the goal is to create an equal and respectful society, then constantly forcing LGBT themes into every corner of media and public life doesn’t help.
So you prefer the removal of all sexual material from the public space? Or is fine that there are straight sexual preferences shown but not lgbt ones.
Nobody is pushing sex changes, don’t be dumb.
Over the past decade, entertainment has increasingly turned into a kind of propaganda machine,
Over the past decade? It’s always been that way.
But instead of fostering acceptance, it’s had the opposite effect people started feeling alienated and even resentful, especially when any opinion that strayed from the mainstream narrative was immediately shamed or labeled as hate.
You are describing racism and homophobia in media.
So you prefer the removal of all sexual material from the public space? Or is fine that there are straight sexual preferences shown but not lgbt ones.
Just deliver what is expected without forcing narratives between the lines.
Nobody is pushing sex changes, don’t be dumb.
Literally Emilia Pérez last month, a few months ago it was Dragon Age the Veilguard. Normalization of sex changes is literally pushed with mass entertainment.
You are describing racism and homophobia in media.
It's not homophobia or racism when you are getting tired of forced narrative, it is failure to understand the audience by the creators. We used to have strong characters despite their sexual preferences or skin color.
It would literally have to be that. Someone explicitly stating sex changes are great for everyone and should try it. Simply having a person who is Trans exist in some popular media is not that. Unless you're a reactionary bigot. In which case it might feel like it.
Normalization through entertainment is specifically meant to influence people into thinking that sex changes are completely fine, even something to be encouraged. Both examples I mentioned clearly sent that message, and considering the Oscars requirements, it reinforces my original point about intentional insertion of LGBT topics.
LGBT themes are not in every corner of media life. What a stupid thing to say. Maybe a little less obsessing over LGBT people and focus more on your own life. Perhaps if you do that, you'll feel less angry and more content/comfortable living in a world where everyone isn't the exact same as yourself?
But sex changes should be fine unless you live in a place where you'll get punished for it, in which case the people punishing you are at fault not you. You're basically saying it's better to normalize hate and prejudice towards trans people than to normalize empathy towards trans people
Just deliver what is expected without forcing narratives between the lines.
That's the cutest little cop out answer I've heard.
Literally Emilia Pérez last month, a few months ago it was Dragon Age the Veilguard. Normalization of sex changes is literally pushed with mass entertainment.
.... Not hiding trans people is "normalising sex changes" to you?
We used to have strong characters without focusing on their gender, sexual preferences or skin color.
We always had this. Just off the top of my head there was:
Duke Nukem.
Cloud Strife.
James Bond.
Ellen Ripley.
Kratos.
I thought it was killing your way into killing the Olympus gods.
Just like Veilguard isn't about pronouns but is instead about fighting against a world ending threat? Y'know, going off the example and standard they had brought up?
Just like how 99.99% of media accused of focusing on their gender, sexual preferences or skin colour are about their central plots?
.... Not hiding trans people is "normalising sex changes" to you?
We always had this. Just off the top of my head there was: Duke Nukem. Cloud Strife. James Bond. Ellen Ripley. Kratos.
Let’s not pretend trans people were ever completely hidden, there have always been trans characters in entertainment. The difference now is that it’s becoming a requirement, not a creative choice. Just look at the new Oscars guidelines there’s pressure for certain identities. That’s not organic representation anymore, that’s a checklist approach, and it’s exactly how messaging turns into propaganda in production
Those guidelines are for the Oscars. You're free to make media that don't meet these standards, to frame this as a requirement is laughable. This is the Oscars setting standards for who they promote and who they don't, nothing more.
Why do you believe the Oscars should be forced to not set their own standards?
I agree, the Oscars aren’t the center of the world, but they’re still an influential part of the entertainment industry. They help set the tone for what’s considered ‘award-worthy,’ and studios often tailor their content to meet those standards. So while it’s technically true that no one’s being forced, in practice, these guidelines shape what gets funded, promoted, and celebrated. That’s exactly how cultural messaging gets pushed, through soft power and incentives, not just direct rules. Corporations play a big role in this too, aligning their content with these standards not out of pure values, but because it boosts their image, secures awards, and appeals to certain markets.
So while it’s technically true that no one’s being forced, in practice, these guidelines shape what gets funded, promoted, and celebrated.
The Oscars also says films need to be over 40 minutes in duration to qualify, yet Tik Tok and YouTube exist, are promoted and get funding just fine.
Just because endorsement from one group is desired, that's not pushing shit. Being popular is just being popular, unless you're contrarian enough to dislike things purely because they are popular.
Corporations play a big role in this too, aligning their content with these standards not out of pure values, but because it boosts their image, secures awards, and appeals to certain markets.
Yeah, I invest my money in companies that meet ESG standards. They want my money, so they meet those standards.
Why do you have a problem with how I invest my money?
Tell some examples of trans people in media that aren't creative choices. It's a creative choice if a writer wanted to include them. If you think trans people should only exist when the plot revolves around them being trans, then by that logic no character should express any sexuality or gender unless it's integral to the plot
Literally no one is pushing sex changes; that's a caricature that you've fallen for. People are merely saying those who undergo such procedures deserve as much respect as the rest of us, and righteously ostracising those who don't pay that respect.
Do you think straight people's relationships ought to be removed from the stories we tell in our media too? If a story is about the trials and tribulations of a man and a woman in a relationship, no one bats an eye, but if it's a man and a man, a certain portion of society decides it's propaganda.
It’s not caricature, it’s the growing normalization of sex changes, which are serious, irreversible decisions. Many people turn to them during vulnerable periods in their lives, when what they often truly need is support, connection, and someone to stand by them. These are the kinds of things traditional values have always emphasized: community, stability, and helping people navigate life’s challenges. Real compassion means offering care and guidance before someone takes a path they may later regret.
Corporations and global institutions have increasingly shaped social narratives not out of concern for people’s well-being, but often in pursuit of influence and profit. Media and advertising constantly promote unrealistic ideals, making people feel inadequate or disconnected. Then, the same systems offer "solutions" through products, therapies, medical procedures which marketed as progress or empowerment. In many ways, identity has become a market, and personal struggles are being commodified.
This fits into a broader globalist agenda that gradually shifts focus away from national identity and shared cultural roots, replacing them with standardized values and ideologies. The more fragmented and uncertain people feel, the easier it is to steer them toward a system that profits from their confusion while diminishing traditional sources of meaning, belonging, and sovereignty.
Yeah, so that first paragraph is traipsing into conversation therapy land. You are wildly out of touch with the perspective of what it is to be a trans person. Which to be fair, if all you are going on is what you see/read/hear in the popular media then you are going to be. I’d say go talk to trans people, but we don’t have to educate you. Do your own homework. Seek out memoirs written by trans people or documentaries about trans adults (who can articulate their positions well, a two hour doc or mini series would never get the nuance needed—and very sorely lacking— in the conversation around trans children & youth).
Many people turn to them during vulnerable periods
1% of people isn't "many". And that's not even including the fractions of that 1% who undergo anything irreversible.
You're being lied to by whoever is telling you it's prevalent.
when what they often truly need is support, connection, and someone to stand by them.
Unironically true, trans peoples mental health improves drastically when they are surrounded by supportive, affirmative friends and family.
Corporations and global institutions have increasingly shaped social narratives not out of concern for people’s well-being, but often in pursuit of influence and profit.
Yeah, as in I won't invest my money with investment groups that don't support freedom and science based reasoning. These groups want my and others money, so they adjust accordingly.
I agree, sex changes have become so normalized it's scary. They're an easy slippery slope towards a dangerous lifestyle. Personally I've fallen for their trap in the past. Every time I used to get stressed out by any menial shit, I'd get a sex change. Exams next week? Sex change. Mom told me to clean my room? Sex change. Stressed out from all the sex changes? Sex change. The doctors at the clinic got so used to me coming in for the usual sex change they gave me loyalty stamp cards. I got through 5 of those suckers before I quit (Those were hella deals tho ngl). Now that I've stopped, I've moved on to healthier, more patriotic habits and I've never felt more proud of my country before. What's more nationalistic than drinking 2 cold ones and a smoke in the morning? I'll tell you, nothing. Except maybe guns and bigotry.
Other way around right? The wedge is the bigots and the bigots use the excuse of being targeted by those programs to justify greater control over people. Blaming the programs for the division is like saying integration causes division because some people don’t like other races.
Censorship under the pretext of ‘fighting hatred’ and the rise of cancel culture really took off during the same period these programs were being heavily promoted. It’s not a coincidence labeling dissenting opinions as hate speech became a convenient way to silence any criticism or alternative viewpoint. Suddenly, even nuanced disagreement could get you deplatformed, fired, or socially ostracized. These programs, while claiming to promote inclusion, often created an atmosphere where people were afraid to speak openly, leading to self-censorship and ideological conformity. So while the intention might have been inclusion, the effect was often intimidation and control, not open dialogue.
I just whole heartedly disagree with this. Social media not allowing hate speech is not dividing people. Cancel culture has never been a real problem whatsoever. The division came from people using “cancel culture” as an excuse to be divisive themselves. I’m going to need examples of the dissenting opinions that caused people to be deplatformed. None of these are legitimate problems, but rather just things leveraged by the right to divide people. It’s basically the polar opposite of what you’re saying.
I just truly don’t understand the logic here at all.
Thanks Admins, real fucking cool.
But God forbid you talk about the results of these people dehumanizing us, suddenly you get suspended for "normalizing violence".
Nah we just assume that something went wrong with their childhoods because they're evil retards who hurt people for no reason. Glad I could clear it up.
Being an adult doesn't make you intelligent, in fact tons of adults posess subnormal intelligence. Trump and Elon are old fucks and they both possess room temperature IQ lol
I mean you don’t have to be super religious to see the correlation in “open” sexuality and mental health decline, at least in America. Sure, coincidences exist here or there but at some point you have to wonder why people, who may not even be religious, are still also against that movement. Also, it’s close minded to assume people who disagree or live differently are “afraid” of the other point of view. Yes many are just some sort of phobic, that I can’t deny, look at republicans over the age of 50 in America. However, just as many are younger, even peers of LGBTQ members, and still find a natural disagreement with those practices.
In general “practices” just refers to the intentional goings on of a person, group, etc. In this context, it just refers to whatever goings on occur in that community. See the comment I responded to.
Hmm that is interesting. I implore you to see both sides of any debate, door, fence, what have you. While my beliefs are my beliefs, understanding the entire picture is what helps me keep love in my heart, even in disagreement.
I apologize. I could name a number of things that, in my opinion, are acts or lifestyles that I don’t think people should partake in. Anybody can do that. I’m talking straight but you seem to want specifics where they simply don’t matter. No offense, but this confusion may stem from your lack of understanding of my initial comment. Apologies again if it’s hard to understand.
To entertain you, I will get personal. For instance, I personally do not agree with physically altering one’s anatomy. I have tattoos, piercings are great, love who you love, but I would say the same for all species. We are who we are. Do what you will with the cards you are dealt, but don’t try to exchange them. Being born was no accident.
That’s unfair but feel how you want. I am speaking on mental health, and its decline, as a whole. Yes, suicide is too often the culmination of those disabilities. My point however, was not narrowed in on just that. I’m very interesting to see that raw data on general mental disorders. It feels as though we are made aware of more disorders, and mostly people suffering from them, every week as opposed to, say the 90s, when I grew up. Not to say it didn’t exist, but the rate seems to have increased tremendously.
That is a great point, many disorders and disabilities are still being uncovered to this day. That would certainly have to be accounted for when considering said data. I speak only off of what a consider to be an empathetic view of normal life. I have family and friends who encompass many walks of life, from the LGBTQ community to churches and mosques, and a lot of in between! So the correlation I’ve drawn from a more open relationship with sexual identity, which can be good, to mental struggles with overall identity, are based on those personal relationships. I don’t mean to insult or attack you, I hope that is apparent.
You aren’t insulting or attacking me. What you’re doing is spreading a narrative that there’s a correlation between mental health issues and acceptance of sexual minorities with no concretely evidence behind your beliefs
I don’t mean to “spread a narrative”. I mean to paint the picture as I live it and see it. As we all do. Your every day experiences aren’t always backed up by a consensus, they are just life. In my own life, sexual identity crisis and mental health issues are shared in the same body far more than they were in the last two decades.
Orbán doesnt give a shit about homosexuals, he is just a populist doing whatever he has to do to get more votes. He is going for the far right votes as his party’s popularity is sinking + he abolishes the right to assemble while the sheeps are clapping for him cause he is hurting the gays. It was actually a well made chess move from his standpoint.
Yea… suppressing people always ends well for governments. See the nazi’s, the soviets, america (civil rights movement and civil war, vietnam war, etc). Always radicalizes more people
Doesn't seem like a big deal, book a venue indoors or outdoors and hold it there if you really cant live without one, can't see any reason for shutting down streets to host it
The title is misleading. All public gatherings are now sanctionable if the government (Orbán) suddenly decides that they might be "harmful to children". The law they made is unconstitutional, so they passed an amendment to the constitution after accepting the law so the law fits into the constitution.
So it's not that Pride is illegal now. They can call ANY gathering illegal.
Ah the good ol' it's not that big a deal. This is how the average German citizen was so confused after WW2 to learn what was actually going on at the camps. Don't be a puppet, bro, we've been here before in history. This shit happens in steps, normalized by people like you, then the atrocities begin right under everyone's noses.
Cool, can't wait to attend written history's largest Budapest Pride March this summer!
If anything htis shows how bad Orbán is doing in polls because they never touched Pride in past 15 years, and now they felt like they just had to go for this low hanging fruit.
Orbán didn't attack Pride as they recognized this was a intra-Budapest thing, attacking which would have galvanized opposition voters while not gaining substantial votes from other demographics. They let it happen and quickly forgot about it the next day, counter-protester numbers were also laughabe (likcouple hundred people tops) and they made effort to segregate the two with police.
Hungary is also not getting any EU money so that pressure point is no more, and with Dumpf in WH he feels emboldened. There is also a far-right party polling 6-7% right of Orbán he tries to snatch voters from.
But probably the real reason is to lay a trap for the new centre-right party that's crushing Orbán in polls. This party is doing well as it attracted lot of rural voters, and if they force their leaders to come out in defense of Pride they could smear them with it.
But in a well executed stroke they simply put out a statement that boils down to "we will ensure the right of assembly for all" without referencing Pride thus leaving little for state propaganda to work with.
Only straight children of Hungary are to be recognized? LMAO such defecation. Do they think homosexuality is taught? Straight children could become gay if exposed? More like they're treating homosexuality like a disease that can easily spread. Ridiculous!
To be fair, pride marches have warped from their intended purpose of allowing lbg to celebrate being gay, to full on degenerecy with people using it to push their perverted kinks (nudity, gay sex, throwing out adult toys) in front of regular people and something the LGBT community should be calling out, but instead they allow it. So I can't really defend gay pride parades in their current form.
Not sure who you are trying to gasslight in the age of videos, There are tons of videos out there showing it, so no, its not "neo-nazi propaganda" as you so put it.
Hungary has passed a law banning Pride marches held by the LGBTQ+ community, sparking outrage in and out of the country.
Parliament voted for the measure just a day after the bill was submitted on Monday, in a process fast-tracked by the ruling right-wing Fidesz party under Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
Orban praised the legislation, external, which bans the event on alleged grounds it is harmful to children, saying: "We won't let woke ideology endanger our kids."
Pride marches had been held for the past 30 years in Hungary. Opposition lawmakers lit flares during the voting session on Tuesday, while demonstrators blocked a bridge in central Budapest. Human rights groups have also condemned the move.
It is the latest measure from Orban's government targeting Hungary's LGBTQ+ community.
Under the terms of the new law, it is now "forbidden to hold an assembly in violation" of that 2021 legislation.
Anyone who does faces fines of up to 500 euros ($545; £420). That could include attendees and march organisers. Police are also allowed to use facial recognition technology to identify possible offenders.
MPs also amended Hungary's right of assembly in parliament on Tuesday.
The law now says that only events "respecting the right of children to proper physical, mental and moral development" may take place.
Opponents of Hungary's Pride marches, and of the country's LGBTQ+ community in general, have regularly, and without evidence, accused such demonstrations of being dangerous for minors.
Protesters outside the parliament on Tuesday chanted:"Assembly is a fundamental right". They blocked off central Budapest's Margaret Bridge while staring down a police cordon.
The EU's equality commissioner Hadja Lahbib condemned the move. "Everyone should be able to be who they are, live & love freely," she wrote on X, external.
"The right to gather peacefully is a fundamental right to be championed across the European Union. We stand with the LGBTQI community - in Hungary & in all Member States."
"A democratic leader would never think of restricting the fundamental rights of those who disagree with him."
Organisers vowed to continue to hold their planned 30th Pride march in Budapest on 28 June.
In recent months Orban has launched increasing attacks on his critics and announced plans for more conservative law changes, vowing last year to "occupy Brussels" to protect Hungary's freedom.
His Fidesz party has been in office since 2010. But polls suggest that the new centre-right party Tisza is in the lead nationally ahead of next year's parliamentary election.
Tisza, which wants a more constructive relationship with the EU, shot up in popularity after Peter Magyar, a one-time Fidesz politician, broke with the ruling party in February 2024 over what he said was its poor running of Hungary.
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Drab_Majesty@reddit
You can see the current state of alliances and where the world is heading by the recent voting on UN resolutions. For instance the nations that voted against de-escalation in Ukraine last month.
Hungary, Israel, Russia, Sudan, North Korea, Burkina Faso and the good ol USA...
ZhouDa@reddit
Israel has given Ukraine aid in the past. They totally voted that way just to kiss Trump's ass.
evan19994@reddit
Isn’t most of global politics just kissing each others asses to get what you want? Regardless of what you feel
spund_@reddit
yes it is, but the unwashed masses can't and don't want to ever realise or acknowledge that when there are internet karma points to get. Which is just so ironic
AliceInMyDreams@reddit
Did you just use the words "unwashed masses" unironically to describe people on reddit who disagree with you? This is some next level classist condescension from someone who hasn't mastered capitalization.
ZippyDan@reddit
Netanyahu can't afford to get on Trump's bad side:
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-843693
This article explicitly claims that Israel was pressured to vote, but I'm not familiar with this source and whether it is reliable or not:
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/02/trump-administration-insisted-israel-vote-against-ukraine-at-u-n/
Civil-Chef@reddit
Introducing the New Axis Nations!
paco-ramon@reddit
Sudan is in the middle of a Civil War, every ideology they have could change really bad.
parashok99@reddit
Great move
Netsuko@reddit
It’s so weird how every fascist leader/government seems to be SO afraid of sexuality. Really makes you wonder what went wrong in their upbringing. Tho usually it’s religion.
Frost0ne@reddit
Things like DEI, woke ideology, and LGBT narratives are often used to drive a wedge between people and traditional conservative or national values. In the long run, it seems like these ideas are being pushed to promote a globalist agenda that could end up weakening national sovereignty. So it is common sense to move away from this movement.
Rather_Unfortunate@reddit
If nationalists will insist on tying themselves to regressive social values, that's their lookout, and people who support progressive values will be turned off by them. There's nothing inherently nationalist or patriotic about opposing progressive values, and it is perfectly possible to build a kind of progressive civic nationalism like that which exists among the pro-independence crowd in Scotland.
If anything, it's the opposite of patriotism. A country is only its people, so who benefits from encouraging hate against one's own people? I can scarcely think of anything more stupid and self-defeating than a nationalist going out of one's way to denigrate other people of the same ethnic group for being LGBTQ+.
Frost0ne@reddit
The thing is, there’s really nothing inherently progressive about pushing sex changes or constantly showcasing sexual preferences. In fact, keeping intimate matters private isn’t regressive, it’s just personal. If the goal is to create an equal and respectful society, then constantly forcing LGBT themes into every corner of media and public life doesn’t help.
Over the past decade, entertainment has increasingly turned into a kind of propaganda machine, where covering certain topics seems necessary just to earn recognition or approval from institutions. But instead of fostering acceptance, it’s had the opposite effect people started feeling alienated and even resentful, especially when any opinion that strayed from the mainstream narrative was immediately shamed or labeled as hate. That kind of pressure doesn’t build unity, it just deepens division.
loggy_sci@reddit
So you prefer the removal of all sexual material from the public space? Or is fine that there are straight sexual preferences shown but not lgbt ones.
Nobody is pushing sex changes, don’t be dumb.
Over the past decade? It’s always been that way.
You are describing racism and homophobia in media.
Frost0ne@reddit
Just deliver what is expected without forcing narratives between the lines.
Literally Emilia Pérez last month, a few months ago it was Dragon Age the Veilguard. Normalization of sex changes is literally pushed with mass entertainment.
It's not homophobia or racism when you are getting tired of forced narrative, it is failure to understand the audience by the creators. We used to have strong characters despite their sexual preferences or skin color.
Tartan_Samurai@reddit (OP)
So simply having Trans people in a couple of media products is 'pushing sex changes'? That's a wild view to have
Frost0ne@reddit
How would you define "pushing sex changes" ?
Tartan_Samurai@reddit (OP)
It would literally have to be that. Someone explicitly stating sex changes are great for everyone and should try it. Simply having a person who is Trans exist in some popular media is not that. Unless you're a reactionary bigot. In which case it might feel like it.
Frost0ne@reddit
Normalization through entertainment is specifically meant to influence people into thinking that sex changes are completely fine, even something to be encouraged. Both examples I mentioned clearly sent that message, and considering the Oscars requirements, it reinforces my original point about intentional insertion of LGBT topics.
fujin4ever@reddit
You mean like how heterosexuality is pushed?
Frost0ne@reddit
it’s just kind of how the whole ‘human species’ thing being pushed
Bye_Jan@reddit
Stupid peoples worst enemy: basic biology
Bacon_Raygun@reddit
Stop normalizing bring a spiteful piece of trash.
MarderFucher@reddit
"everywhere i go i see trans people and gay people"
its okay bro its the 21th century you can come out safely, at least in (most of) the West
Tartan_Samurai@reddit (OP)
LGBT themes are not in every corner of media life. What a stupid thing to say. Maybe a little less obsessing over LGBT people and focus more on your own life. Perhaps if you do that, you'll feel less angry and more content/comfortable living in a world where everyone isn't the exact same as yourself?
Lord_Of_Carrots@reddit
But sex changes should be fine unless you live in a place where you'll get punished for it, in which case the people punishing you are at fault not you. You're basically saying it's better to normalize hate and prejudice towards trans people than to normalize empathy towards trans people
PotsAndPandas@reddit
That's the cutest little cop out answer I've heard.
.... Not hiding trans people is "normalising sex changes" to you?
We always had this. Just off the top of my head there was: Duke Nukem. Cloud Strife. James Bond. Ellen Ripley. Kratos.
Hikari_Owari@reddit
Bro, have you ever played God of War 1? Kratos is pale because it's the ashes of his wife and kids forever engraved in his skin.
PotsAndPandas@reddit
Have you? There are literally sex minigames that you can earn trophies doing lmao, the fuck do you mean
https://www.playstationtrophies.org/game/god-of-war/trophy/11536-rockin-the-boat.html
Hikari_Owari@reddit
Oh, sorry, forgot the sex minigame is the focus of the game.
I thought it was killing your way into killing the Olympus gods.
PotsAndPandas@reddit
Just like Veilguard isn't about pronouns but is instead about fighting against a world ending threat? Y'know, going off the example and standard they had brought up?
Just like how 99.99% of media accused of focusing on their gender, sexual preferences or skin colour are about their central plots?
Glad we agree :)
Frost0ne@reddit
Let’s not pretend trans people were ever completely hidden, there have always been trans characters in entertainment. The difference now is that it’s becoming a requirement, not a creative choice. Just look at the new Oscars guidelines there’s pressure for certain identities. That’s not organic representation anymore, that’s a checklist approach, and it’s exactly how messaging turns into propaganda in production
https://www.oscars.org/awards/representation-and-inclusion-standards
PotsAndPandas@reddit
Those guidelines are for the Oscars. You're free to make media that don't meet these standards, to frame this as a requirement is laughable. This is the Oscars setting standards for who they promote and who they don't, nothing more.
Why do you believe the Oscars should be forced to not set their own standards?
Frost0ne@reddit
I agree, the Oscars aren’t the center of the world, but they’re still an influential part of the entertainment industry. They help set the tone for what’s considered ‘award-worthy,’ and studios often tailor their content to meet those standards. So while it’s technically true that no one’s being forced, in practice, these guidelines shape what gets funded, promoted, and celebrated. That’s exactly how cultural messaging gets pushed, through soft power and incentives, not just direct rules. Corporations play a big role in this too, aligning their content with these standards not out of pure values, but because it boosts their image, secures awards, and appeals to certain markets.
PotsAndPandas@reddit
The Oscars also says films need to be over 40 minutes in duration to qualify, yet Tik Tok and YouTube exist, are promoted and get funding just fine.
Just because endorsement from one group is desired, that's not pushing shit. Being popular is just being popular, unless you're contrarian enough to dislike things purely because they are popular.
Yeah, I invest my money in companies that meet ESG standards. They want my money, so they meet those standards.
Why do you have a problem with how I invest my money?
Lord_Of_Carrots@reddit
Tell some examples of trans people in media that aren't creative choices. It's a creative choice if a writer wanted to include them. If you think trans people should only exist when the plot revolves around them being trans, then by that logic no character should express any sexuality or gender unless it's integral to the plot
Rather_Unfortunate@reddit
Literally no one is pushing sex changes; that's a caricature that you've fallen for. People are merely saying those who undergo such procedures deserve as much respect as the rest of us, and righteously ostracising those who don't pay that respect.
Do you think straight people's relationships ought to be removed from the stories we tell in our media too? If a story is about the trials and tribulations of a man and a woman in a relationship, no one bats an eye, but if it's a man and a man, a certain portion of society decides it's propaganda.
Frost0ne@reddit
It’s not caricature, it’s the growing normalization of sex changes, which are serious, irreversible decisions. Many people turn to them during vulnerable periods in their lives, when what they often truly need is support, connection, and someone to stand by them. These are the kinds of things traditional values have always emphasized: community, stability, and helping people navigate life’s challenges. Real compassion means offering care and guidance before someone takes a path they may later regret.
Corporations and global institutions have increasingly shaped social narratives not out of concern for people’s well-being, but often in pursuit of influence and profit. Media and advertising constantly promote unrealistic ideals, making people feel inadequate or disconnected. Then, the same systems offer "solutions" through products, therapies, medical procedures which marketed as progress or empowerment. In many ways, identity has become a market, and personal struggles are being commodified.
This fits into a broader globalist agenda that gradually shifts focus away from national identity and shared cultural roots, replacing them with standardized values and ideologies. The more fragmented and uncertain people feel, the easier it is to steer them toward a system that profits from their confusion while diminishing traditional sources of meaning, belonging, and sovereignty.
000000100000011THAD@reddit
Yeah, so that first paragraph is traipsing into conversation therapy land. You are wildly out of touch with the perspective of what it is to be a trans person. Which to be fair, if all you are going on is what you see/read/hear in the popular media then you are going to be. I’d say go talk to trans people, but we don’t have to educate you. Do your own homework. Seek out memoirs written by trans people or documentaries about trans adults (who can articulate their positions well, a two hour doc or mini series would never get the nuance needed—and very sorely lacking— in the conversation around trans children & youth).
PotsAndPandas@reddit
1% of people isn't "many". And that's not even including the fractions of that 1% who undergo anything irreversible.
You're being lied to by whoever is telling you it's prevalent.
Unironically true, trans peoples mental health improves drastically when they are surrounded by supportive, affirmative friends and family.
Yeah, as in I won't invest my money with investment groups that don't support freedom and science based reasoning. These groups want my and others money, so they adjust accordingly.
Garrorr@reddit
I agree, sex changes have become so normalized it's scary. They're an easy slippery slope towards a dangerous lifestyle. Personally I've fallen for their trap in the past. Every time I used to get stressed out by any menial shit, I'd get a sex change. Exams next week? Sex change. Mom told me to clean my room? Sex change. Stressed out from all the sex changes? Sex change. The doctors at the clinic got so used to me coming in for the usual sex change they gave me loyalty stamp cards. I got through 5 of those suckers before I quit (Those were hella deals tho ngl). Now that I've stopped, I've moved on to healthier, more patriotic habits and I've never felt more proud of my country before. What's more nationalistic than drinking 2 cold ones and a smoke in the morning? I'll tell you, nothing. Except maybe guns and bigotry.
tu_tu_tu@reddit
Yeah, right. Media is full of conservative fearmonging propaganda about evil globalists and lgbt now.
BabyJesus246@reddit
Wow sounds like traditional values are pretty shit then if not hating gay people is a value they can't abide by.
Frost0ne@reddit
Since when not being pro LGBT / Woke / DEI same as hating gays?
BabyJesus246@reddit
Pretty much from the beginning
Frost0ne@reddit
Well that’s literally the problem with such political nature of the movement. People may dislike the movement, but be fine with gays.
mnmkdc@reddit
Other way around right? The wedge is the bigots and the bigots use the excuse of being targeted by those programs to justify greater control over people. Blaming the programs for the division is like saying integration causes division because some people don’t like other races.
Frost0ne@reddit
Censorship under the pretext of ‘fighting hatred’ and the rise of cancel culture really took off during the same period these programs were being heavily promoted. It’s not a coincidence labeling dissenting opinions as hate speech became a convenient way to silence any criticism or alternative viewpoint. Suddenly, even nuanced disagreement could get you deplatformed, fired, or socially ostracized. These programs, while claiming to promote inclusion, often created an atmosphere where people were afraid to speak openly, leading to self-censorship and ideological conformity. So while the intention might have been inclusion, the effect was often intimidation and control, not open dialogue.
mnmkdc@reddit
I just whole heartedly disagree with this. Social media not allowing hate speech is not dividing people. Cancel culture has never been a real problem whatsoever. The division came from people using “cancel culture” as an excuse to be divisive themselves. I’m going to need examples of the dissenting opinions that caused people to be deplatformed. None of these are legitimate problems, but rather just things leveraged by the right to divide people. It’s basically the polar opposite of what you’re saying.
I just truly don’t understand the logic here at all.
Emotional_Mail472@reddit
„Globalist agenda“, hmmm warte have I heard this before?
Missing your armband sir?
Affectionatekickcbt@reddit
lol people complaining about globalists but will never give up their Amazon Prime.
Affectionatekickcbt@reddit
You should have stopped typing after the word “people”
Ironx9@reddit
But people should still have a right to free expression no? Is this not going too far?
SpicyRice99@reddit
I agree it's definitely not good. However, it keeps these totalitarianists in power, so they do it
ukezi@reddit
Free expression in their mind is not getting a backlash if they are hateful assholes.
SabziZindagi@reddit
It must take a mega dose of online koolaid to end up talking like this. Barely any human parts left.
loggy_sci@reddit
This is what idiots trying to sound smart would say, yes.
walleyetritoon@reddit
They’re not mentally ill so you assume something went wrong in their childhood.
fujin4ever@reddit
Being lgbt isn't a mental illness.
FollowTheMaelstrom@reddit
Don't waste your time arguing with these people. They know better. It's not about facts or being informed, it's about hate.
Bacon_Raygun@reddit
Oh great, so that wasn't just me.
Thanks Admins, real fucking cool.
But God forbid you talk about the results of these people dehumanizing us, suddenly you get suspended for "normalizing violence".
Arutzuki@reddit
debatable
BabyJesus246@reddit
Yikes
fujin4ever@reddit
LOL. Show your sources then.
feralkidinthejungle@reddit
Nah we just assume that something went wrong with their childhoods because they're evil retards who hurt people for no reason. Glad I could clear it up.
ChiefMarjay@reddit
He did say in an old interview that his father beaten him a lot as a child
storft2@reddit
damn why the slur
feralkidinthejungle@reddit
Eh sorry, I guess just the word idiot doesn't hit the same way lol
Southern-Duck-3875@reddit
Exactly they always say smt like this and always view a literal adults an "edgy teenager"
feralkidinthejungle@reddit
Being an adult doesn't make you intelligent, in fact tons of adults posess subnormal intelligence. Trump and Elon are old fucks and they both possess room temperature IQ lol
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
I mean you don’t have to be super religious to see the correlation in “open” sexuality and mental health decline, at least in America. Sure, coincidences exist here or there but at some point you have to wonder why people, who may not even be religious, are still also against that movement. Also, it’s close minded to assume people who disagree or live differently are “afraid” of the other point of view. Yes many are just some sort of phobic, that I can’t deny, look at republicans over the age of 50 in America. However, just as many are younger, even peers of LGBTQ members, and still find a natural disagreement with those practices.
Perca_fluviatilis@reddit
Practices? lol What are you talking about?
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
In general “practices” just refers to the intentional goings on of a person, group, etc. In this context, it just refers to whatever goings on occur in that community. See the comment I responded to.
Perca_fluviatilis@reddit
I'm not really getting what would be those LGBTQ practices that would be disagreeable.
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
Hmm that is interesting. I implore you to see both sides of any debate, door, fence, what have you. While my beliefs are my beliefs, understanding the entire picture is what helps me keep love in my heart, even in disagreement.
Perca_fluviatilis@reddit
You... still haven't really answered my question. Would be a hell of a lot easier to understand you if you talked straight. lol
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
I apologize. I could name a number of things that, in my opinion, are acts or lifestyles that I don’t think people should partake in. Anybody can do that. I’m talking straight but you seem to want specifics where they simply don’t matter. No offense, but this confusion may stem from your lack of understanding of my initial comment. Apologies again if it’s hard to understand.
Perca_fluviatilis@reddit
Then do? You could give me some examples, you don't need to make an extensive list. That's what I'm asking you.
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
To entertain you, I will get personal. For instance, I personally do not agree with physically altering one’s anatomy. I have tattoos, piercings are great, love who you love, but I would say the same for all species. We are who we are. Do what you will with the cards you are dealt, but don’t try to exchange them. Being born was no accident.
_bitchin_camaro_@reddit
Have you considered that you’ve based this opinion on abject bullshit?
https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-us-suicide-rates-since-1900/
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
That’s unfair but feel how you want. I am speaking on mental health, and its decline, as a whole. Yes, suicide is too often the culmination of those disabilities. My point however, was not narrowed in on just that. I’m very interesting to see that raw data on general mental disorders. It feels as though we are made aware of more disorders, and mostly people suffering from them, every week as opposed to, say the 90s, when I grew up. Not to say it didn’t exist, but the rate seems to have increased tremendously.
_bitchin_camaro_@reddit
You mean you want to see the data from before these mental health conditions were believed to exist or widely addressed in society?
Where is your evidence on the general decline of mental health as a whole beyond the trend of a few years?
Where is your evidence that this is at all linked to greater acceptance of the LGBT community?
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
That is a great point, many disorders and disabilities are still being uncovered to this day. That would certainly have to be accounted for when considering said data. I speak only off of what a consider to be an empathetic view of normal life. I have family and friends who encompass many walks of life, from the LGBTQ community to churches and mosques, and a lot of in between! So the correlation I’ve drawn from a more open relationship with sexual identity, which can be good, to mental struggles with overall identity, are based on those personal relationships. I don’t mean to insult or attack you, I hope that is apparent.
_bitchin_camaro_@reddit
You aren’t insulting or attacking me. What you’re doing is spreading a narrative that there’s a correlation between mental health issues and acceptance of sexual minorities with no concretely evidence behind your beliefs
StrawHatShinobi_@reddit
I don’t mean to “spread a narrative”. I mean to paint the picture as I live it and see it. As we all do. Your every day experiences aren’t always backed up by a consensus, they are just life. In my own life, sexual identity crisis and mental health issues are shared in the same body far more than they were in the last two decades.
ChiefMarjay@reddit
Orbán doesnt give a shit about homosexuals, he is just a populist doing whatever he has to do to get more votes. He is going for the far right votes as his party’s popularity is sinking + he abolishes the right to assemble while the sheeps are clapping for him cause he is hurting the gays. It was actually a well made chess move from his standpoint.
Heliologos@reddit
Yea… suppressing people always ends well for governments. See the nazi’s, the soviets, america (civil rights movement and civil war, vietnam war, etc). Always radicalizes more people
ChiefMarjay@reddit
For these fuckers its worth it for the power…
rampantfirefly@reddit
Authoritarians don't like people having personal freedoms. It's as simple as that.
suiluhthrown78@reddit
Doesn't seem like a big deal, book a venue indoors or outdoors and hold it there if you really cant live without one, can't see any reason for shutting down streets to host it
PuFiHUN@reddit
The title is misleading. All public gatherings are now sanctionable if the government (Orbán) suddenly decides that they might be "harmful to children". The law they made is unconstitutional, so they passed an amendment to the constitution after accepting the law so the law fits into the constitution.
So it's not that Pride is illegal now. They can call ANY gathering illegal.
serasvictoriaz@reddit
if straight marches existed and they took it away yall would literally be screaming crying and throwing up over it
Southern-Duck-3875@reddit
That's like saying if fictional characters existed irl and took it away we would be crying and doing a protest 😭💔
suiluhthrown78@reddit
"If non-existent thing was non-existent then non-existe..."
Ok.
erikaironer11@reddit
A right was taken away and for you it’s not a big deal?
CrunchyCds@reddit
Ah the good ol' it's not that big a deal. This is how the average German citizen was so confused after WW2 to learn what was actually going on at the camps. Don't be a puppet, bro, we've been here before in history. This shit happens in steps, normalized by people like you, then the atrocities begin right under everyone's noses.
MarderFucher@reddit
Cool, can't wait to attend written history's largest Budapest Pride March this summer!
If anything htis shows how bad Orbán is doing in polls because they never touched Pride in past 15 years, and now they felt like they just had to go for this low hanging fruit.
Robmarley@reddit
Could you elaborate how this action shows on Orbáns polling and how the Pride was a low hanging fruit?
Genuinely curious!
MarderFucher@reddit
Orbán didn't attack Pride as they recognized this was a intra-Budapest thing, attacking which would have galvanized opposition voters while not gaining substantial votes from other demographics. They let it happen and quickly forgot about it the next day, counter-protester numbers were also laughabe (likcouple hundred people tops) and they made effort to segregate the two with police.
Hungary is also not getting any EU money so that pressure point is no more, and with Dumpf in WH he feels emboldened. There is also a far-right party polling 6-7% right of Orbán he tries to snatch voters from.
But probably the real reason is to lay a trap for the new centre-right party that's crushing Orbán in polls. This party is doing well as it attracted lot of rural voters, and if they force their leaders to come out in defense of Pride they could smear them with it.
But in a well executed stroke they simply put out a statement that boils down to "we will ensure the right of assembly for all" without referencing Pride thus leaving little for state propaganda to work with.
szornyu@reddit
Don't worry, Orcban only covers the more stringent problems in the economy and his dwindling support.
This is a good sign. The people are waking up.
Hate and lies work less and less.
DragonBunny23@reddit
Only straight children of Hungary are to be recognized? LMAO such defecation. Do they think homosexuality is taught? Straight children could become gay if exposed? More like they're treating homosexuality like a disease that can easily spread. Ridiculous!
azriel777@reddit
To be fair, pride marches have warped from their intended purpose of allowing lbg to celebrate being gay, to full on degenerecy with people using it to push their perverted kinks (nudity, gay sex, throwing out adult toys) in front of regular people and something the LGBT community should be calling out, but instead they allow it. So I can't really defend gay pride parades in their current form.
EH1987@reddit
That's literally nazi propaganda.
azriel777@reddit
Not sure who you are trying to gasslight in the age of videos, There are tons of videos out there showing it, so no, its not "neo-nazi propaganda" as you so put it.
Gruejay2@reddit
All this tells us is that you don't have a very good propaganda radar.
EH1987@reddit
You're defending a far right authoritarian regime utlawing any expression of LGBTQ identity and using neo-nazi rhetoric to do so.
shabi_sensei@reddit
What sort of Pride Marches do you go to?
Can you provide evidence that any of this even happened? You’re just parroting extremist propaganda without any evidence
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
They literally banned any "promotion" of homosexuality in public
So I don't know wtf you are talking about. This is Eastern Europe not LA.
Also gay sex is a kink?
Aggressive_Yard_1289@reddit
Nudity is such a kink lmao, so abhorrent
LAMonkeyWithAShotgun@reddit
I personally have the missionary kink
Don't tell anyone tho
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