It seems like the South is quite a right-wing, conservative region. Do African Americans from Southern statesalso tend to be more Conservative than northern African Americans?
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DrGerbal@reddit
Google Alabama black belt. It’s where the highest density of black people are in Alabama and they are pretty much the only counties that go blue during elections. Now I know several conservative black men. But in general, no
Level3Kobold@reddit
OP didn't ask if they voted republican, OP asked if theyre more conservative than northern (or west coast) blacks.
For example, how do they feel about gay rights, drug decriminalization, abolishing the death penalty, abortion? Are their stancea more or less conservative than black Americans from other regions?
Pinkcoconuts1843@reddit
They are conservative, but not MAGA. It’s very rare. Hispanics, however, are definitely Trumpers.
thescoopsnoop@reddit
You’d be surprised how many southern black Americans I’ve seen wearing MAGA hats. I think tides are shifting, TBH.
RisingBit7@reddit
On youtube yes.. but thats the internet bud
Pinkcoconuts1843@reddit
I live in Texas. I have never once seen a black person in a maga hat.
thescoopsnoop@reddit
Your not seeing it doesn’t change the fact that I’ve seen it many times.
Small_Dimension_5997@reddit
In my personal experience -- More or less the same.
dangleicious13@reddit
I live in the black belt (Montgomery). Our district just had the chance to elect the first ever black person for the district. In the Democratic primary runoff, they chose the more progressive Shomari Figures over the more conservative Anthony Daniels.
VeeKam@reddit
The guy who played C3PO?
doctor-rumack@reddit
Well, Chewbacca died, so who else would it be?
MisterrTickle@reddit
Harrison Ford, now there's an actor who probably could be a great President.
I now expect my inbox to be filled with stories about how he's a right wing gun but. Who makes Charlton Heston and Clint Eastwood look sane.
KathyA11@reddit
He's got the experience - he played the President in Air Force One.
I went to see it with several girlfriends on my birthday weekend the year it came out. Saturday afternoon, theater in Jersey City NJ. The theater was pretty full. There;s a scene in the beginning where he leaves the limo and is walking to AF1. A breeze cones up and blows his hair down over his forehead. I swear every woman in the theater sighed (including me).
ilovjedi@reddit
Well President Ross did okay after he hulked out. I guess.
big_sugi@reddit
Say what you will about Heston’s politics, but you have to admit that it’s been at least 15 years since he said or did anything objectionable.
BigDSuleiman@reddit
lol almost 17 now
beenoc@reddit
Ford is actually a lifelong staunch Democrat, so you're in luck there.
PeppyQuotient57@reddit
I know he’d push for nationally legalized weed
rutherfraud1876@reddit
It's not a rare name; this guy is almost 40 years younger and has a totally different skin color
MisterrTickle@reddit
Why was C3PO running for office in Alabama?
Viper_Red@reddit
Yeah, figures
RScrewed@reddit
I feel like in a lot of the cases you described, voting democratic might be identity affiliation rather than actually believing in what it stands for, kinda like poor whites voting Republican.
Do those southern black men support gay marriage/rights? Abortions? Teaching religion in schools? Equality of the sexes?
They very well may, but I think more info is needed other than "they vote democrat".
BeerJunky@reddit
Black and latino conservatives are such a weird thing for me. It's like cows and pigs voting for the butcher. Republicans aren't going to be helping poor people and they CERTAINLY aren't going to be helping non-whites, women, and anyone not Christian.
sgtm7@reddit
Conservative doesn't mean they necessarily vote for Republicans. Many have conservative views, but have been brainwashed into believing they have to vote for Democrats.
RVCSNoodle@reddit
so brainwashed
Don't they know they have a legitimate choice? Compromise by supporting more progressive candidates or the ones that will happily them for their theor appearances alone, regardless or citizenship.
There's certainly no pressures pushing them there from the other side.
Touch grass. You need to experience the real world.
No-Possibility5556@reddit
From what I remember the black belt is also a social phenomena from geographic circumstances. It’s basically a very old coastline, meaning the land is very fertile, meaning that’s where most plantations were built (at least the massive ones), and now today is where a lot of the black population still lives.
big_data_mike@reddit
It goes through the whole southeast
https://deepseanews.com/2012/06/how-presidential-elections-are-impacted-by-a-100-million-year-old-coastline/
DrGerbal@reddit
The black belts name is at this point a double entendre because it got its name from the rich black soil you could plant an old leather shoe in and grow an orchard of peach trees. But also where there are a ton of black people because slavery and that’s just how life went.
YellojD@reddit
Ngl, I pictured tae kwon do master in a Bass Pro Shops cap.
ElectricSnowBunny@reddit
It's the overall Black Belt, not just AL.
lionhearted318@reddit
They vote Democratic but are more culturally conservative than the bulk of the Democratic Party
Above_Avg_Chips@reddit
Religion is a huge part of Black culture. A lot of them hate LGBTQ folk just as much as their white compatriots.
RisingBit7@reddit
I wouldnt say hate.. your not gonna see black folks hunting lgbtq or attacking em. But find it odd and funny would be more accurate
thatrightwinger@reddit
This is pretty close to accurate. 2024 was a pretty major swing in every demographic, including blacks. We will have to see if that's an isolated incident or the harbinger of a movement of blacks voting at perhaps 25-30% Republican rather than only 10%.
Black southerners, especially those who are not living in urban centers are basically always culturally and politically more conservative than those living in the north.
Gold-Leather8199@reddit
That was because the dems had a woman candidate
thatrightwinger@reddit
Crying sexism will get you nowhere.
Gold-Leather8199@reddit
Obviously, males didn't vote for Harris, minorities voted for the orange pumpkin, they don't think she could run the government, I voted for her but I'm in the minority
thatrightwinger@reddit
Reports have come out that Harris almost certainly outpolled what Biden was heading for. Biden was pushed out because they were seeing Trump getting states like New Jersey and Minnesota. 350 electoral votes were in play or worse. Kamala, as terrible a candidate as she was, almost certainly salvaged an escape from a Reagan-style landslide.
That's why I'm telling your the cries of sexism don't work.
ElderlyChipmunk@reddit
I would dare to say that rural black southerners are more culturally conservative than even their white rural neighbors.
thatrightwinger@reddit
Perhaps, but that is exceedingly rare. More blacks than ever are living in the suburbs, but getting outside of those areas, and the black population is minuscule.
GimmeShockTreatment@reddit
How are we defining culturally conservative
broker098@reddit
I visit rural communities a lot and I agree with this.
footfirstfolly@reddit
"25-30% Republican" is such FUD BS. 20%, maybe.
You aren't wrong that rural blacks are more conservative in general, but you can't portray a national shift back to pre-Obama voting numbers as 'a major swing' among southern blacks when the biggest shifts among black voters happened outside of the South.
BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy@reddit
I don't agree with that. The bulk of the democratic party is pretty conservative.
im-on-my-ninth-life@reddit
Most likely, you live in a bubble with extreme-left influence if you think Democratics are too conservative.
aliquotoculos@reddit
I've been ny, oh, tx... dems are pretty conservative these days in some things, and keep getting pulled more rightward.
MrsBeauregardless@reddit
The rest of the world considers US democrats as center right.
majinspy@reddit
So, you mean like 10 countries then, right?
Footnotegirl1@reddit
There's literally no extreme left in this country, at least not in any numbers. The Democratic party is to the right of most center-right parties in Europe.
im-on-my-ninth-life@reddit
I'm not gonna debate this. You will be blocked.
Maikkronen@reddit
They're kind of roght if they were more clear, though.
Even bernie sanders and the green party tend to be more moderate left in comparison to a lot of EU, and the extreme left in the US has pretty much 0 traction.
But saying there is no extreme left is a bit naïve without qualifying it better.
Cheeto-dust@reddit
No, just aware of Europe.
TheBlazingFire123@reddit
He is tagged with DC
im-on-my-ninth-life@reddit
Which seems like a bubble with extreme-left influence.
Jdevers77@reddit
It’s the failure of having just a one dimensional explanation of politics in the US. Black people in the south tend to be more fiscally liberal but socially conservative, almost the opposite of an “old school” New England Republican or even a Libertarian who would be socially liberal but fiscally conservative. When having to choose between the two major parties they tend to choose Democrat simply because in the south democrats also tend to be more socially conservative than nationally. It’s important to note that neither party is very fiscally conservative any more, they just differ in where they want to spend our tax money…Democrats want to fund social programs that help people while Republicans want to defund those programs while funding defense, border patrol, and tax breaks for the rich (which would be fiscally conservative if it also included actual spending cuts but basically they rarely do).
PlayVirtuaFighter@reddit
Definitely worth bringing up that last point. Leftists love to say "democrats are right wing", but neither party actually is practicing fiscal conservatism at all, and in some ways Trump might be left of Democrats... Just not left in the ways that leftists actually care about lol.
Upstairs_Bed3315@reddit
Mist black people vote dem because of legacy
Most black people actually dont vote outside of college educated black women
im-on-my-ninth-life@reddit
I always use at least 2 dimensions, but a lot of political analysts don't like that either, so...
lionhearted318@reddit
They’re more conservative on topics where the Democratic Party is pretty universally on the liberal side. Like when it comes to religion and gay rights and stuff like that. I’m not talking about economic issues.
WanderingLost33@reddit
Black folks in general tend to be pretty conservative outside of city arts and cultural centers. NYC POC seem to realize that the fight for human rights in any area, helps the fight for human rights in all areas. POC in the Midwest get a bit more caught up in anti-gay stuff and it gets worse the further south you go.
They still vote Democrat in general because they arent idiots. But my family is mixed and while Gen Z seems to be the most accepting generation so far, the older generations are super anti-lgbtq personally, if not politically, if that makes sense.
Different_Ad7655@reddit
Yes, I always thought that black men from the south head the double whammy of coming out. Bad enough dealing with your own sexuality but also with the overtone of the family, the church and all of the other stigma that goes with it
Guilty_WZRD69@reddit
Racist
TheOneEyedWolf@reddit
There is a huge population of “church folks” in the black community - but the strongest strain of socialism is also present in the black community.
RisingBit7@reddit
Yes.. very much so... until you get to the polls
prowler28@reddit
I think so. Also whenever I go to the south, I see more whites and blacks sitting together at tables and beside each other in public than I do anywhere else.
Accomplished_Rush182@reddit
Black people in the south may do a better job remembering Republicans ended slavery, not Democrats.
Mallthus2@reddit
Polling and practice indicates that beliefs generally associated with conservatism, like views on religion, gender, sexuality, and a host of other aspects of society, are widespread amongst Black Americans at large, and especially so amongst Black southerners. Despite this, the vast majority of these self identifying conservatives are voting for Democrats, as their fiscal views tend to be communitarian, as opposed to laissez-faire economic policies.
TL;dr-Black southerners are more likely than other Black Americans to be conservative, but they’re statistically unlikely to be Conservatives.
johnsmth1980@reddit
They don't t have "widespread beliefs" if they always vote for the same party.
CosmoCosma@reddit
This.
Pburnett_795@reddit
No
AmericaneXLeftist@reddit
I'm gonna criticize the Protected Group, but I'll try to stay straightforward and objective.
Absolutely not. Black Americans as a whole are somewhat right-wing, but only within and concerning their own culture, and they wouldn't lend any assistance to the American Conservative political movement whatsoever. As a whole, they seem almost entirely low-information and very nearly brainwashed toward hating anything remotely republican, as a cultural social standard. Despite often being internally homo/transphobic, having a matriarchal family structure, and so forth, it's plain to see that any areas which come to be occupied and defined by the black community instantly become a conservative's worst nightmare; black urban culture is not modest, honest, clean, dignified, traditional, or patriotic, almost ever. This is not to mention criminality, for which I hardly have to elaborate because the statistics are extremely damning. Black America, North and South, is the antithesis of everything the conservative wishes to create.
gmr548@reddit
There’s plenty of conservative, especially socially conservative black voters in the South. The Democratic Party, though, is the party of black political power. People are glossing over that when explaining why black voters are still by and large loyal to Democrats.
Established leaders and elected officials in the black community are overwhelmingly Democratic due to the legacy of the Civil Rights era (Democrats passed the legislation, Republicans played into the backlash with the Southern strategy). In modern times partisan politics in the south are still strongly divided by racial lines. It’s as much or more cultural/institutional than it’s about a given set of political views.
mysticmiah@reddit
More conservative but still vote blue
Roughneck16@reddit
Thats correct. The South is more socially conservative in general, but African Americans are reliable Democratic voters.
But, they’re still the minority. Even the blackest state, Mississippi, is only 38% black.
Democrats should have a massive advantage, but those are usually the only votes they can get. White Southerners have shifted strongly to the GOP in past few decades.
In 1960, the Deep South’s congressional delegation was made up entirely of white Democrats. Today there are none.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
That’s still kind of wild at 38% overwhelmingly democratic they still lose the elections by a wide margin. That means that a substantial percent of the other demographics vote Republican.
majinspy@reddit
I'm a Mississippian. "White" and "Black" are almost perfect overlays of "Democrat" and "Republican".
There are very few "other demographics" here.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
You know when I typed that comment I knew someone would point that out but didn’t bother switching it to specify white. Yeah that’s what I meant by other demographics I just didn’t think to be specific.
majinspy@reddit
Ah, got ya. I thought you meant Latin American or Asian.
"Substantial" doesn't cover it. My fellow white people are often shocked by me being a Democrat but unsurprised bt Black people being Democrats. It's that lock step.
nysalor@reddit
Or don’t/can’t vote.
RealAssociation5281@reddit
Voter suppression is a huge issue in the South, I’m surprised more people aren’t mentioning that.
Particular_Bet_5466@reddit
Yeah that crossed my mind. People need to vote, like come on. That’s a right people literally died for us to have and people just go eh fuck it I’m not gonna bother.
I will say I’m fortunate I now live in Colorado that mails every citizen a ballot and a full information booklet on everything we are voting on. You take your time to fill it out and do your research on each item then you have a few weeks to go drop it off at a drop box That’s how it should be everywhere.
When I lived in Wisconsin I remember standing in a super long line after work that went out the door into freezing rain. The first time I tried to vote in 2012 I waited in line for a long time for them to tell me I needed a proof of address and got turned away, and then I had to go to work bc there wasn’t enough time to go home and come back to wait in line again.
i-am-doll-eyes@reddit
Don't forget all the gerrymandering.
Backsight-Foreskin@reddit
And voter suppression.
Staszu13@reddit
Sad about MS. In spite of the heavy African American population, there's almost no Federal elected officials of color or Democrat from there. About the biggest African American elected official is the mayor of Jackson
Uptheveganchefpunx@reddit
And the state doesn’t allow the city to operate its own police force.
Staszu13@reddit
WTF what's on with that
Uptheveganchefpunx@reddit
Simply put it’s a way for the state to keep control over a majority Black city. Missouri has done the same with St Louis and Kansas City I believe. Basically, the state legislature expanded the state police to cover an almost 9 mile radius in to the city.
Think of this. When asked in surveys what they think the percentage Black Americans make up the population of the U.S. white people typically report around 40%. The actual make up is 14.2% Of that 14% of Black Americans in the entire country 77% live in the South. In MS 38% of the population is Black. Jackson is 80.5% Black. It’s the Blackest city in the U.S. that isn’t a suburb of Atlanta. Jackson is the only city in MS that has a Black leader in a high level elected position. Both representatives in the U.S. Senate are white and Bennie Thompson is the only Black congressperson out of 4.
Mississippi has a long history of divesting in its own population. The state has great agricultural potential but land was taken away from Black farmers. The USDA helped with that one. They have casinos but that revenue doesn’t spread out much throughout the state as far as education and infrastructure spending goes. They diverted $77 million in TANF funds so Brett Favre’s daughter could have a new volleyball facility. Brett Favre himself is caught asking “Will the media find out we’re using welfare funds intended to help the poorest residents of America’s poorest state to build a volleyball center?”
So it shouldn’t really surprise anyone that the state legislature wouldn’t let a majority Black city in the most segregated and inegalitarian state to have their own policing paradigm.
ColossusOfChoads@reddit
Is it because of gerrymandering?
Staszu13@reddit
Almost certainly. Bennie Thompson is the one Mississippi representative of color, he represents their first district, and an overlay of the African American population of Mississippi with a map of the First District would be practically identical.
I have to confess I never heard of the man, though he's been in the House over 30 years. Have to wonder if he voted with You Know Who on the recent budget thing
Staszu13@reddit
Ok just double checked he voted against
rutherfraud1876@reddit
Bennie Thompson, whatever else you want to say about him, has been around for a while
External_Produce7781@reddit
Worth noting that those ”Democrats” were the definitoon of DINOs.
they were called the Dixiecrats and they didnt leave - they switched parties. Some of them are STILL SERVING. They were/are racist shitbags. They didnt change, they just changed parties,
the two parties have entire switched sides since the Civil War.
Roughneck16@reddit
Jimmy Carter was an outspoken civil rights advocate and he swept the Deep South running against an incumbent Republican in 1976.
baycommuter@reddit
Well… he was the less progressive candidate in the 1970 governors race against Carl Sanders. Jimmy tried to split the middle but he lost the black vote overwhelmingly while winning in rural areas.
rutherfraud1876@reddit
Not even DINOs; some of them can still trace an unbroken line back to the Dixiecrats
Bluewaffleamigo@reddit
This, for the most part.
Chemical_Plum5994@reddit
They live in some of the most gerrymandered districts in the south so their votes are historically hidden by elected officials (usually old white conservatives)
burner7221@reddit
Socially conservative, fiscally liberal.
coysbville@reddit
From my experience, having grown up black in Mississippi, black southerners are usually democrats but they typically don't agree with a lot of things that people from the left prioritize
breadexpert69@reddit
Yes, unless its Obama or another black person running.
Osama_Bin_Drankin@reddit
That's statistically not true, lol. The Black community overwhelming votes Democrat. Hilary Clinton won 91% of the Black vote in 2016, Biden won 92% in 2020, and Kamala won 80% in 2024. Kamala's lower percentage is mostly due to the lower Black youth turnout in 2024.
Black Americans have been the Democrats most solid voting block for 60 years.
SeaworthinessIll4478@reddit
People seem to love to point fingers at the South but there was a helluva lot of red on that electoral map last November.
broker098@reddit
Once you get outside the big cities it feels like a 50/50 chance any black person you meet is a Trump supporter.
Eatatfiveguys@reddit
Sorta, it's complicated. For one, a big ideology shift is between younger and older black people in the South. Younger black people are more likely to live in urban areas and be college-educated so they will be more liberal than older black people just like white people. Another thing is the urban/rural divide. For example, Georgia Democrats are more liberal than Mississippi Democrats because Democratic strength in Georgia is concentrated in the Atlanta metro while in Mississippi Democratic support is less urban.However, though there's an age and regional divide within the black community in regards to ideology, older black voters are arguably the most Democratic voting group in the nation and that is included in the South. Older black voters in Georgia and North Carolina backed Harris even stronger than younger black voters despite them being more conservative. A good way to put it is that younger black voters in the South want progress on all issues and are more so supportive of the Democratic Party's platform while older black voters are more fearful of the Republican Party's regressive policies that would hurt them. So why age and region matter is because northern black voters are more like Georgia Democrats while southern black voters have more in common with southern black voters. Northern black voters are younger, more secular, and more urban while southern black voters are more rural, religious, and older. So in ways, it's mostly based on the age and regional divide which also follows the North/South divide. There's not much difference politically between black people in Atlanta and Chicago, but there is more difference between Detroit and rural Alabama.
JackYoMeme@reddit
You can look on a map to see what counties voted for.
HairyDadBear@reddit
They're more conservative but in the way that Biden was more conservative than AOC. There's also polling that show this divide by age too, which might also be a correlation.
OkLychee2449@reddit
I’m from Mississippi. Most black people will vote blue at the national level but are conservative/Christian when it comes to cultural and social issues.
ConspicuousBearLoaf@reddit
And here's a hard fact too...the South would have had much more black leadership over the years except for the fact that in the aftermath of the Civil War, former confederate soldiers reorganized into various racist groups such as the red shirts and the Ku Klux Klan. They did everything in their power to prevent black leaders and the rights of black people (first men and later women) to vote.
We're still paying for the sins of the confederacy now and we will be until who knows when. MAGA is a direct outgrowth of these old confederate sentiments. It must be driven out of society...if only we can figure out how.
ColossusOfChoads@reddit
People in the Balkans wonder when the shadows of WWII, the communist era, the post-communist shitfest (and there are through lines through all of that) will finally fade away. That's when I tell them about the legacy of our Civil War.
ConspicuousBearLoaf@reddit
Yeah, it's a tough situation because there's often a pattern where even when one generation starts to reject certain negative attitudes and ideas, the next generation often creates a false nostalgia for a time they never experienced and clings to some of those terrible ideas. I think that's what we see now with some Gen Z guys embracing misogyny and racism in a way we've not seen it decades.
Brilliant_Towel2727@reddit
African Americans in the South are generally more conservative than African Americans in other parts of the country in terms of personal beliefs and behaviors, i.e., they're more likely to go to church regularly or identify as pro-life, but they still predominantly vote for Democratic Party candidates. There is some evidence that this misalignment between beliefs and voting is starting to erode in favor of the Republican Party.
madogvelkor@reddit
It's a big reason the Democrats focus on racism in the Republican party. A lot of black and Hispanic voters are culturally more conservative than the Democrat median and they don't want them to abandon the party like Southern whites did 40 years ago.
shthappens03250322@reddit
As others have said, they typically vote democratic, but they are fairly conservative culturally. Go look up the black belt in Alabama. It is one of the poorest regions in the country with a high percentage of the population being rural blacks. In the antebellum years the black belt was one of the prime slave owning areas so it is no sure black population is higher there than most other parts of the country. These days that region is primarily dominated by the timber industry instead of cotton, but there are still cotton farms and other cash crops.
I grew up in the black belt. It is a unique area. Many blacks are poor there, but they own land often times that they’ve inherited. It usually isn’t worth much, but it is still land. The black people of the black belt are considered reliable democratic voters, but it is more of a thing about they believe democrats have black interests more top of mind that Rs. Don’t be mistaken though, they can be very homophobic and sexist. They also generally don’t really care about environmental issues. I am not trying to make the black culture of the rural south sound bad, only highlighting the similarities it has with white rural culture.
huuaaang@reddit
African Americans do tend to be more socially conservative which is why they might often be voting Republican even though the party is not exactly known for being black-friendly. You see something simliar with Latino peoples in the US.
rubey419@reddit
Rural vs Urban.
I technically live in the South and live in a very Liberal City (Durham, NC)
Rural areas of the West, Midwest and North can be very conservative.
Small_Dimension_5997@reddit
"It seems like the South.."
Not sure what this means, but as someone with a lot of time and experience in both the south and the north, the truth of the matter is that rightwing-conservative regions are just about EVERY white dominated rural region of the US. Rural Washington state is just as bad as white rural Alabama, and there are lots of conservatives in white rural New Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts (even if they fall just under the vote of the dems across the county).
Meanwhile, most southern cities are fairly liberal, or at least have fairly liberal parts.
As for African Americans, I have known a few conservative southern African Americans -- but to be fair, they have personalities that are more 'rebellious' against 'their own people/expectations', vs drawing from the conservativism of the white people around them. The only answer to your question will be found in the details of reputable surveys (and hint, the difference, if any, is likely to be very small).
cbrooks97@reddit
Things have changed after years of people moving around, but it used to be that southern Democrats were more conservative than northern Republicans. And in a lot of ways they still are. Southern Blacks who tend to vote Democrat are still likely to be more religious than other Democrats and so more likely to disagree about some moral/social issues.
RuneScape-FTW@reddit
Culturally, yes.
Dio_Yuji@reddit
Socially, yes. The congress person who sponsored my state’s abortion ban law is a black, Democrat…and a woman 🤷🏻♂️
Tough_Tangerine7278@reddit
There was the Great Migration during the 1910-1970s, so many black Americans brought southern church culture with them to the N and W.
noviadecompaysegundo@reddit
92% of black women voted Kamala and 70 smthg % of black men did. I’d say that’s pretty pro-Kamala. And there are always gays in the black church, they just don’t come in holding hands with their boyfriends. But PDAs in general are unacceptable for anybody
Tough_Tangerine7278@reddit
They make the best choir directors! (Joking joking)
But yeah. In the closet is not acceptance. Holding hands is not “PDA” and straight couples do it all the time in church with zero issues.
And that’s still 1 in 5 black men voting Trump, and many non voters. (Though when Obama ran, the numbers were drastically higher). (And unfortunately voter apathy is a big problem across the board).
It’s important to acknowledge WHY there is voter apathy. The US has a long history of suppressing black votes - Jim Crow laws, segregation, poll workers not staffed at predominately black communities (I once waited 8 hours to vote, and my spouse 12 hours), gerrymandering, etc etc. Identifying the problems is step 1 to correcting them.
noviadecompaysegundo@reddit
Right
MrsBeauregardless@reddit
One thing to keep in mind is gerrymandering and other voter suppression tactics minimize the impact black people have, politically, in the South.
There’s a documentary on YouTube that explains it well. It’s called Vigilante, Inc.
jonny300017@reddit
They are conservative in general as a group other than usually voting democrat
BippidiBoppetyBoob@reddit
Black voters in general tend to be quite conservative, even among Democrats. That said, long term gerrymandering, and the fact that there simply aren't enough of them that turnout in statewide elections have given Republicans a long-term advantage that likely won't be overcome in most places anytime soon.
Few-Guarantee2850@reddit
Black voters, mainly black men, tend to be more religious and socially conservative when compared to white liberals, but I wouldn't say they "tend to be quite conservative."
Status-Preference853@reddit
They’re socially conservative in an Andrew Tate kind of way, but poor so they vote for free social services.
thanosleftasscheek@reddit
A racist gen z, what a surprise lmao
HorseFeathersFur@reddit
Oh wow, now there is a caricature I wasn’t expecting.
DegaussedMixtape@reddit
I don't know if you meant exactly what I think you meant, but Black voters vote democrat in higher numbers than any other racial group which seems to mean that they are the least conservative part of the populace.
71% of black men voted for Harris and only 24 voted for Trump. Black Women take that up to 90% for Harris and 7% for Trump. The second highest race/gender pair is Hispanic women who were only at 57% for Harris. Biden won on the black vote in the election before that. If whites were the only people who could vote, the Republicans would win in a landslide every single election.
BippidiBoppetyBoob@reddit
You would think that, but it’s not actually the case. Yes, they are ancestrally loyal to the Democratic Party, but in the south, black Democrats are quite conservative on social issues, and some of them actually have views more in common with Republicans than Democrats on issues like abortion and LGBTQ rights… However, their party loyalty is much deeper than white or Hispanic voters who are somewhat more malleable.
flippythemaster@reddit
Gerrymandering is a BIG thing. Just look at a voting district map of Texas and it’s clear that nobody would ever split it up that way unless they had a specific aim.
TwinFrogs@reddit
In my experience, yes. They’re strict baptists, and intolerant of lots of things like homosexuality. They also don’t like Asians and Jewish people for some reason.
Blutrumpeter@reddit
Yes for sure but they still vote liberal
dangleicious13@reddit
Black people in the south overwhelmingly vote Democratic.
Dismal-Detective-737@reddit
But they voted Hillary over Bernie.
That's also not the question. Are they more conservative than northerners.
Moomookawa@reddit
To be fair nearly everyone voted for Hillary over Bernie lol. We were much less likely to vote for him because the chances of him winning was very slim.
Also many of us are socially conservative. Pro Life, Church every Sunday, unfortunately many of us anti LGBT. We just don’t tend to vote conservatively because were black lol
SnooRadishes7189@reddit
Yeah. I remember when the older generation(boomers) were for Hillary thinking Obama couldn't win, then got pissed off after she went on the attack Rev. Jeremiah Wright. She lost a lot of black votes that way. The young ones(Gen x and bellow) were for Obama amassed he could even win a caucus in Iowa and manage to get ahead of Hillary in the delegate count,.
SnooRadishes7189@reddit
African Americans tend to be less LBGTQ rights (but not all). They also tend to be more religious. However, beyond that the Democratic Party tends to have fewer outright racists, tends to be pro-union, tends to be pro policies that help lower income people and so on. These are why African Americans tend to look past things they don’t like as much to support the Democratic party over the republican. Not all blacks are Democratic party supporters as there are some Republican supporters.
Whites imho don’t seem to recognize just how much government support they or their families receive. It is almost as if you have “failed” as a white person to need to receive food stamps or other assistance. They tend to think that no one they know is on welfare or gets some sort of assistance and tend to be less in favor of it. They also don’t know what kind of welfare does what. I have had to explain that food stamps pretty much just cover food. Not clothes, toilet paper, and over the counter medicines. They are often surprised that SSI might not cover everything, and I have even run into people who think that if they get injured at work they can always sue their employer for enough money to support them for a lifetime in case of disability. They don’t know why workers’ compensation is probably (but not always) the better answer for this situation and that SSD is that supports people who can’t work regardless of the cause. It is as if the knowledge of what safety nets are in place and what they do just is not common knowledge.
CodAdministrative563@reddit
Don’t forget when natural disasters such as tornadoes or hurricanes strike. Those are also federal funds which democrats strongly favor to use on affected areas during emergencies
Economy-Ad4934@reddit
lol that does not answer the question at all. That’s already known
BlackEyedAngel01@reddit
This is why republican politicians and conservative judges work so hard to gerrymander black voters out of the picture.
MagicWalrusO_o@reddit
That's not the same thing though. There's plenty of polling to show that Black voters in the South tend to be more religious, more pro-life, etc. than Black voters in other parts of the country.
swallowedbydejection@reddit
Define conservative. Lots of people are answering as if you’re asking if they vote republican vs democrat. There’s quite a bit of US history behind this. There are other conservative aspects in that community. Homophobia for example as well as views on abortion . I’ll be honest with you this is a tricky subject.
BanjosandBayous@reddit
Like most of America, most of the major cities in the south are blue, but the rural areas are very red.
Actually up until this last election the whole Rio Grande valley in Texas also always went blue. The south has also done a lot of work making it so people of color have a harder time voting and gerrymander their districts so even though a higher percentage of people are voting blue, it wont affect their power in congress.
It's all corrupt AF and other states dont intervene like they should have.
Baebarri@reddit
They tend to be more religious (it is the Bible belt after all.) Sometimes that translates to conservatism, sometimes it doesn't.
rogun64@reddit
I would say yes, but the difference is much smaller than with white Americans.
Jp95060@reddit
I think there are more African Americans in the South because the Southern states were slave state. It cost a lot to move cross country. When a place is were you grew up its your home.
I doubt African Americans as a whole can be put into a group. Just like other races they are all different.
frederick_the_duck@reddit
They tend to be conservative Democrats.
Miserable-Lawyer-233@reddit
Well, yes. The only place you can find confederate flag toting African Americans is in the South.
Adept_Thanks_6993@reddit
The south isn't uniformly right wing, but it is moreso than certain other parts of the country.
Sector_Independent@reddit
I think drastically more black men who voted voted for republicans than in past elections. Social issues such as perceived overly -woke left ideology and immigration and prices. Also the left gaslighted the fuck out of people about how frail and demented Biden was which was infuriating to many block men
Hypnox88@reddit
The black people I know are pretty conservative. Theres a couple who aren't. but most are religious conservatives.
HorseFeathersFur@reddit
Whoo boy, this thread should get Interesting.
Icy-Whale-2253@reddit
Only on reddit will you have white people trying to speak on behalf of black people unironically.
1singhnee@reddit
No that’s pretty much everywhere.
MilkChocolate21@reddit
Only if a bunch of white people decide they can explain Black life and culture, which is pretty common no matter what country's Black people are being discussed.
szayl@reddit
But they have so many black friends!
MilkChocolate21@reddit
Lol.
NeverEnoughGalbi@reddit
It already smells crazy in here!
LegitimateFoot3666@reddit
Black Americans are generally conservative on all social issues besides racial ones. Black Southerners are especially conservative on all social issues besides racial ones.
CozmicBunni@reddit
Not exactly.
I don't know how to say it other than being African American in general tends to override whatever regional status we may have because that's the identity that shapes us and our cultural experiences the most. If someone is to lean more socially conservative, it's likely a reflection of whether or not they're active in the church, which is more likely in the South.
im-on-my-ninth-life@reddit
African-Americans in general tend to be more conservative (on social/personal issues) than white people. Northern African-Americans come from the South at some point so they're more alike than different.
Primary_Excuse_7183@reddit
It’s important to know that being conservative and being right wing aren’t necessarily the same. it’s often quite the opposite for the African American community. Many are conservative religiously in the sense they are Christian and believe the Bible and its teachings. But are generally conservative democrats. from a voting perspective. Most dont believe that right wing…. Well anything is meant to include nor benefit them individually nor collectively in many cases.
monkabee@reddit
Not really, in my experience. In my incredibly right-wing, conservative area, it's still a fairly safe bet that most black people here are going to be liberal. Not 100% but like 4 out of 5. And the 1 out of 5 is usually a raging homophobe. (Broad generalizations here obviously but a pretty good snapshot of my lived experience as a liberal in the areas you're talking about)
Ok-Temporary-8243@reddit
They're more conservative but generally still left leaning yes.
Southern blacks voted overwhelmingly against their interests and in favor of Biden over Bernie in the last primary.
And they as a group are generally more religious and thus socially conservative.
NeverEnoughGalbi@reddit
Black people were never voting for Bernie 'its all about class' Sanders. Not never.
I would ask why you say Biden was against our best interest, but I already know.
Ok-Temporary-8243@reddit
The guy who spent a decade compromising with segregationists and still brags about it? Yeah.
Avinson1275@reddit
Unlike Bernie, Biden had to regularly get Black people to vote for him in order to win elections in Delaware 1/5 of Delaware is Black versus 1/100 in Vermont. Bernie didn’t know to how to effectively campaign to Black people especially those living in the South. Biden had numerous respected Black leaders and politicians willing to go to bat for him despite his history with segregationists. Bernie, while being morally on right side, failed to grew the relationships necessary to get his views and vision believed obtainable by this demographic.
ButterFace225@reddit
I would say most people are culturally conservative, but they statically vote blue.
Ok_Organization_7350@reddit
Most black people I know in general are conservative or Christian, both in the South and the Midwest (north). African Americans are historically religious, but the news does not like to mention this or let people know.
LoyalKopite@reddit
Dem primaries won by winning states which they will not win in general elections.
Ok-Confidence-2878@reddit
I know a lot that are republicans.
Tommy_Wisseau_burner@reddit
People need to learn the difference between Republican and conservative. Black people generally vote Democrat (and by generally, I mean 90%+) but tend to be moderately to very conservative
sean8877@reddit
I grew up in the northeast and now live in Atlanta, GA. The church is much more prominent here among black folks than it was up north which affects the overall attitude toward some social issues (like LBGT). But still most black people I know vote Democrat so it isn't that drastic of an effect.
Offi95@reddit
Most black people live in the south because slaves didn’t exactly have the opportunity to create generational wealth to afford their children a chance to move…
While states like NYC or California do have large minority populations today….the majority of African Americans still live in the south. That is where you find the most black conservatives. They are homophobic, and traditional people…not too scared by a character like Trump.
Dry-Tomorrow8531@reddit
Blacks here tend to be socially VERY CONSERVATIVE but almost monolithically vote Democrat.
Economically though usually mixed but majority I'd say left leaning in that department.
bigsystem1@reddit
African Americans in the deep south are more conservative (like most people in the deep south) but not necessarily more Republican. It’s a great question though. Would be curious to know where black Americans vote Republican in the highest percentages. My guess would probably be northern cities, even if there’s less conservatism than in the south.
Anonymous_Coder_1234@reddit
I believe so, yes. Black people in the South tend to be more religious than say Black people in Vermont. More religious people tend to be more likely to vote Republican.
Technical_Plum2239@reddit
Religion isn't exactly a decider. Not much of what conservatives do is really religious text based - unless you go WAY right to the submissive women stuff.
Synensys@reddit
It's not a decider, but there is a correlation within races.
dragonsteel33@reddit
Yes and no. There might be a lot of interpretations of the Bible that do not line up with conservative politics — mainline Protestantism and a lot of Catholic doctrine in particular — but high religiosity is a pretty consistent predictor of conservative politics in the US
Deinosoar@reddit
Which is exactly why the Reverend at Ebenezer Baptist Church was able to successfully run as a democratic Senator.
Christian does not automatically mean republican, and that is absolutely true among black churches. Many of which are very strongly Democratic even if they are conservative in some social issues.
Elegant_Marc_995@reddit
That's not way right anymore, that's just right
Special_Trick5248@reddit
This is effectively only true for white religious people
sokonek04@reddit
Wait there are black people in Vermont???
deadbeef56@reddit
Did they poll all five black people in Vermont to be sure?
AlyssaJMcCarthy@reddit
Vermont is only 98.7% white. There’s also Juan, Ahmed, and Latasha.
Subvet98@reddit
Not anymore. Latasha moved to New Hampshire. Was sick of paying state taxes.
RonMcKelvey@reddit
Kyle
hannelorelei@reddit
Yep, that one guy. He cool.
DawgJax@reddit
What does race have to do with political affiliation?
cookie123445677@reddit
Well conservative and liberal mean different things to different people. You can be socially conservative and fiscally liberal or vise versa.
Southerners tend to be religious and religious people tend to be socially conservative.
Carlpanzram1916@reddit
Caveats abound because this has changed a lot in the last cycle or two but historically, black Americans in most regions have voted democrat by roughly a 90% margin. This is why even the red states in the south only vote Republican around the 66-33 type margins.
The black margins have been somewhat consistent in different regions. The more recent shift in 2020-2024 were younger black males supporting Donald Trump, helping him shift the map and return to office in 24. This trend was consistent with young men in most racial demographics but was particularly start among black voters because they have been the most reliable blue vote.
Leather-Marketing478@reddit
Yes. But they are generally seen as more “moderate Democrats” as opposed to the far left wing politicians that get most of the press/media attention.
ATLien_3000@reddit
African Americans as a whole tend to be socially conservative; they're one of the most socially conservative demographics there is in the US.
Icy-Mixture-995@reddit
My African American friends in my Southern hometown that i see often for monthly lunch are churchy but vote blue. They went through desegregation, MLK shooting as teens, and take no BS.
They are also sick of bad behavior like I am and think people need to haul themselves off to rehab, take parenting classes and therapy. So while they aren't Trumpers, they don't put up with bullsht behavior. If you show up at their house dating their granddaughter when high, have a rep for treating people badly or a shady way of earning a living, they will throw your a* out of the house. They faced the KKK when kids and aren't scared to piss you off.
Don't know if that answers the question of what to expect.
CodAdministrative563@reddit
They dealt with a lot. Glad they got to live life and hopefully saw an improvement for themselves
ssk7882@reddit
Yes. It becomes most apparent in years when there is a hard-fought Democratic primary battle. Black Americans in the northern cities are often infuriated by the way that the press in those years tends to allow Southern black voting preferences stand in for what "Black Americans" prefer overall.
CodAdministrative563@reddit
Metro areas in the south tend to vote blue as they know the services given back to the tax payers.
Atlanta comes to mind
Dramatic-Blueberry98@reddit
In some aspects, some of them are socially conservative leaning, but it’s usually only on very specific issues.
Issues that aren’t higher up on the average voters’ concerns most of the time.
HalcyonHelvetica@reddit
Sort of. In general, the South is home to most African Americans, and it's where you'll find the majority of rural AfAms. That means you have a more rural and more religious population that's more likely to be conservative. AfAms who moved to northern cities had kids who lived in urban environments, which is correlated with being more liberal. However, in both cases, they by and large vote for the Dems.
Classicman098@reddit
Maybe slightly more, in general we are a socially conservative demographic. Northern black people originate from the South, our grandparents and parents came from the South, so there isn't too much of a cultural difference. But black people primarily vote for Democrats. People who think that voting for Democrats = liberal have never had a meaningful conversation with an average person from a minority background (your one suburban friend is a statistical outlier and not representative of the average minority's cultural upbringing).
Lovebeingadad54321@reddit
There are pockets of liberals, of all colors, In the south, but we have something called “Gerrymandering”, where the conservatives in power, draw the districts to prevent too many liberal votes in one area.
blipsman@reddit
No, which is why southern states resort to gerrymandering, photo ID requirements while closing DMVs in minority areas, etc. to limit African-American votes
Epyphyte@reddit
Yes, They tend to be very socially conservative, at least in my part of the South.
C21H27Cl3N2O3@reddit
No. The bigger divide is urban vs rural. Northern rural counties tend to vote Republican, and southern cities overwhelmingly vote democrat.
OceanPoet87@reddit
But in the south, there are rural counties which are like 80-90% black so its a little different.
MilkChocolate21@reddit
And they gerrymander the hell out of districts. Seriously, so many recent legal battles against this and you don't know?
MuffinR6@reddit
Surprising to see this is how far i had to scroll to get to my first gerrymandering comment
Rei_Rodentia@reddit
nope. they're just outnumbered by an even wider margin than up north.
___daddy69___@reddit
This isn’t true, black people are a plurality in large parts of the south, and they’re one of the most religious groups in the country. They definitely vote democrat more than white southerners, but they’re still generally more conservative than Northerners.
MilkChocolate21@reddit
Plurality isn't majority though. The split in many Southern states is still 60:40 with white people being the majority. Kentucky has one of the smallest Black populations in the South. The only majority POC state is Hawaii. Don't confuse Southern cities that are majority Black, or Black enough to have some Black politicians in office with statewide numbers. Because we don't have that. I don't think you're Black are you. We are the same as white conservatives. You're comparing aoples and oranges as an outsider who doesn't know.
___daddy69___@reddit
I never stayed black people were a majority, I just said that they aren’t outnumbered by a wider majority than up north
MilkChocolate21@reddit
You implied that they vote less reliably than white northerners and that isn't true. So in what ways do you think Black people are more conservative that white Northerners? Bc our votes tell a different story in the polls, and I doubt you know many of us well enough to know where we stand on other issues.
___daddy69___@reddit
You’re just making shit up lmao
I never said black southerners vote more conservative than white northerners, I said they vote more conservative than northerners in general
Most black southerners are baptist and are much more religious than people from the rest of the country, and therefore tend to vote more republican
dangleicious13@reddit
Outnumbered by who?
Infinite-Surprise-53@reddit
They're more religious but still overwhelmingly votes liberal
Roughneck16@reddit
Raphael Warnock, Georgia’s black senator, is a Baptist minister.
CosmoCosma@reddit
The Democratic party is basically the black ethnic party and gets roughly 85-90% of the overall black vote.
The history of effectively ethnic-based repression have had a major impact on black political culture.
Which-Technology8235@reddit
Black culture especially in the south tends to be conservative by nature but we usually vote blue. Also yes the south is red but most black folk live in city areas and almost every major city if not all is blue
Tough_Tangerine7278@reddit
A lot is purple, but thanks to gerrymandering it stays blood red. Voter suppression at its finest.
EastTXJosh@reddit
Yes. It doesn’t mean there a lot of African American Republican voters, but they are conservative Democrat voters. Here in East Texas, most African Americans are very conservative, but vote reliably Democrat.
Absentrando@reddit
Yes, socially speaking, but they do consistently vote blue
Pure_Wrongdoer_4714@reddit
They’re mostly liberal which is why some states like Georgia have been leaning democratic more lately.
farson135@reddit
"Conservative" and "Liberal" have a meaning that has nothing to do with party affiliation.
African Americans in rural areas (North or South) tend to be conservative. However, in general, they still vote Dem regardless of region.
Joliet-Jake@reddit
More socially conservative, but they still frequently vote Democrat.
notonrexmanningday@reddit
What used to be a North/South divide is now much more an urban/rural divide. Big cities in the south, like Atlanta, Houston and New Orleans are liberal, and the rural areas of New York, California and Illinois are conservative. Conservative states tend to be states that either don't have big cities or where more people live in rural areas than in cities.
Afromolukker_98@reddit
Socially yes, but they usually do not vote Republican.
But culturally I think Black folks from South are more conservative socially than Black folks in West or North.
ExRays@reddit
They are more conservative yes, but they still vote for left leaning priorities cause most black folks understand that American conservativism, MAGA, and the current GOP are existential threats to their interests due to deeply ingrained racism in the United States.
Meilingcrusader@reddit
They vote for democrats but are more religious and conservative in general worldview
ConceptOther5327@reddit
I think the divide between liberal and conservative in the south, has more to do with urban versus rural than race. There are small towns in Arkansas that are predominantly black or predominantly white and both generally vote more republican. The more densely populated areas vote more liberal.
There is more racial diversity in the more populated areas but white is still the majority and we have all types of minorities, not just black. My particular area has a lot of Hispanics and usually votes democrat.
RosietheMaker@reddit
As a Northern Black person, I am going to say it’s hard to tell. My family has been in the North since the early 1800s. First they went to Canada and then my great-grandmother came to the US illegally in the early 20th century. When my great-grandmother came to the states is also when the Great Migration happened. A lot of Southern Black people brought their culture north, and they did intermingle and intermarry with Black communities up North.
Now, once offshoring happened, a lot of Black people returned or moved to the South. What I’m saying is there’s been so much movement of Black people in this country, I think it can be difficult to say definitively. I’ve never noticed a difference with the Southern Black people I’ve met, but like attracts like.
igotshadowbaned@reddit
I think it's more accurate to say their main leaning is top wing rather than right wing now
igotshadowbaned@reddit
Right wing and conservative are no longer accurate, they're leaning more towards the middle top of the compass now
County_Mouse_5222@reddit
I'm not sure but speaking for myself, I do not align with much of anything conservative and have never, will never vote for any hard right conservative candidate. But then I'm not a black person from the South either. However, my parents were from the Southeastern US and wanted to be like white conservatives so badly that they dressed and voted the part. I do believe it was because they had to fit in with the white folks to keep their jobs. They were sort of forced into being conservative, but they weren't authentic about it and not wanting to be their true selves hurt the family in the end.
MartialBob@reddit
No but that doesn't mean they're liberal. One of the issues with the Democrats in the south is that the leadership has become calcified in their positions. They will only back their chosen candidates and if you don't kiss the ring you're practically out. This is what happened with Doug Jones who was a Senator from Alabama and a Democrat. He was also white. Even so when he was a prosecutor he successfully prosecuted members of the KKK. Unfortunately, he got almost zero support from the local Democrats because he didn't swear allegiance directly to them.
MilkChocolate21@reddit
I can tell people really want to pretend a Black church person is the same as a white evangelical and that's so far from true. I also know non white people feel overly confident explaining a Black life they don't lead, and get angry when we tell you you're wrong, so...
Prestigious_View_401@reddit
Yes. They are more socially conservative. Like conservative white people may be annoyed by gay people kissing. But conservative black people would act like Satan’s spawn are in front of them.
LifeFindsAWhey@reddit
Not at all. The GOP just does their best to disenfranchise minorities.
rosemaryscrazy@reddit
I’d say so. Sometimes it’s easier just to go along to get along as they say. I think that’s why a lot of people in a particular area align themselves with the majority in that area.
I mean if you think about it in the South going against conservatism would make your life 10xs harder in just about everything I can think of.
I mean you go to work and all your coworkers or a large majority are conservatives.
I am not really political, but I hold some conservative views and some far left views. But I rarely interact with anyone on a day to day basis. I visit my bf during the day 3-4 times a week. The rest of the time I’m in my little house with my little dogs. Although I’m pretty sure my beagle is a conservative. She acts like one.
NIN10DOXD@reddit
Not necessarily, most data suggest that while Black voters throughout the country vote for Democrats and that they are often more socially conservative than White Democrats on average regardless of geography. Some of the more conservative Democrats in the House come from black areas of the South. THIS does seem to be changing as some majority black areas in the South are starting to see progressive movements spearheaded by younger Black women that are just as progressive as their White counterparts if not morseo.
AnalysisOdd8487@reddit
from my experience, yeah
thatHecklerOverThere@reddit
Depends on what you mean by "conservative". Against to apathetic on homosexuality? Often yes. Against the ability of nonwhite non land owners to have full American rights? Generally not so much.
Many conservative thinkers have theorized that if they could get the republican party to be less implicitly racist, they'd win many black demographics they don't have a snowballs chance of today. In my experience, they're probably correct; Lotta older black people I've known to have very socially conservative views... That they've been wise enough to put on the back burner politically because they notice who their very "unwelcoming" neighbors vote for, and why.
cheesyshop@reddit
I don't live in the South, but I did some phonebanking during the election. We were targeting Black neighborhoods in Georgia. I will say that the emphasis on Harris being pro-choice didn't resonate.
MilkChocolate21@reddit
Look up gerrymandering. Look up on the Civil Rights Movement. When Dr King was assassinate, he was in Memphis marching for workers' rights. He also had plans to atrack poverty. But the South has come up with many ways to dilute Black votes. The electoral college. Poll taxes. General racial terror and violence. Gerrymandering. Limited voting access. Black people are the most reliable Democratic voting block. They get north of 90% of our votes even though we get little in return. But no, we aren't politically conservative. But some people love church and we might have higher church attendance rates. The church has been an important space for Black Americans for a long time. And remains important even for some of us who are not religious or members anywhere. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/02/16/10-new-findings-about-faith-among-black-americans/
lol_coo@reddit
If they are, it is personally conservative and not in away that affects others. For example, they may be against abortion for themselves but still vote in favor of choice.
Apprehensive-Ant2141@reddit
No, they’re just outnumbered by the rural whites when it comes to the electoral college. Look at New Orleans in comparison to the rest of Louisiana, Atlanta in comparison to the rest of Georgia and on and on.
notthegoatseguy@reddit
In the Dem US POTUS primary, the southern states are very important as they tend to vote relatively early and have a high amount of black voters. It also doesn't help that the two states that typically vote before the south, Iowa and New Hampshire, are very white.
Atlanta, which has typically been a majority black city, hasn't had a Republican Mayor since the 1870s.
xSparkShark@reddit
Marginally so, but the statistics indicate that they still overwhelmingly vote democrat. Typically on presidential voting maps blue districts are more than likely majority black. As others in the thread have stated, they’re more likely to be religious due to the historic prevalence of black Baptist churches in the south, but voting wise they generally align with the “black vote” which which has been a shoo in for voting democrat since the parties flipped in the 60-70s.
AUCE05@reddit
They are hyper socially conservative. Vote democratic.
Comfortable-Study-69@reddit
Generally yes, but black people across the board are overwhelmingly liberal and vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, averaging about a 65 point lean towards them in recent elections.
DancingWithAWhiteHat@reddit
Not particularly, no. A lot of northern black people are raised by southern parents so, if there is a difference it may be mitigated by that.
Technical_Plum2239@reddit
That's a great question. In theory, being from the North and having less restrictive laws & no legal segregation, etc you might think Black people may be more conservative.
I will see if there is any data on that.
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