What's the difference between Aniioki A8 and A9 pro max
Posted by WeNeedElon@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 12 comments
I realize the tire size is different but the information on the site is confusing.
When you see an overview of the bikes it says that A8 has a 3300 peak wattage but when you go into more detail it appears that both of them have the same Max wattage of 5200
arkangel371@reddit
Only difference is how much it cost to burn down your house.
It's odd, they claim the bike and or battery is UL certified but I can't find anything on it in the UL data base. Huge battery like that at an extremely low cost? Sounds like a rolling bomb.
WeNeedElon@reddit (OP)
I wouldn't say 4k dollars is an extremely low cost. I bought a closeout hyper scrambler 2 for 2000 dollars this time last year and the batteries on that are 40AH anyway.
arkangel371@reddit
Right and you aren't building a battery out of quality and certified cells for that cost. Looks like you are looking at the dual motor e-bikes which are normally $4100k for a 80ah battery. Most other companies ship with 15ah to 20ah batteries.
Let's take Lectric for example because they are the largest ebike seller in the USA and likely have the greatest economies of scale. They also sell at very affordable prices. Their fat tired xpeak 2.0 can ship with a 20ah UL certified (a real UL certificate btw) battery. To buy that battery by itself is $600. Aniioki sells their 80ah battery for $1399. To match the capacity, one would have to spend $2400 on the Lectric batteries.
There simply is not any good explanation for how aniioki is selling a battery of that capacity at nearly 50% less without cutting corners or in this case straight up lying about their UL certification.
Sufficient-Soft6734@reddit
The 60v aniioki battery only has 16 cells in it. If anything, it may be overpriced.
nonsensecaddy@reddit
Tell us what bike you own so I can confirm you’ve got buyer’s remorse and do shitposts on r/ebikes like this to dissuade potential buyers from buying a good value e-bike
arkangel371@reddit
I tell people to look at established brands that don't lie about their UL certifications and won't leave their buyers high and dry should warranty work be needed. Everything is a great value until something goes wrong and then you get to see why it was "a great value".
I have not purchased one of these bikes but it seems plenty of people that have, complain about the lack of after purchase support. I also don't tend to buy from companies that lie about safety listings.
nonsensecaddy@reddit
You have no evidence to prove your point, so it remains moot. Beyond that you’re drawing from anecdotal accounts on the internet. When a company goes from startup in 2022 to 4000 employees as of now it’s going to encounter inevitable shortcomings.
That said: there are thousands of people riding these bikes without a single issue and they’re rolling with outstanding capacity for range, power, and some of the best components in its market (300mm front and rear hydraulic brakes and 2200w continuous direct drive dual motors)
chuckwolf@reddit
The A8 is a 52v single motor using a 32 amp controller, for 1890 watts peak, the A8 pro max and A9 pro max are dual motor on a 60 volt system with a 35 amp controller for each motor, for 4700 watts peak output
Appropriate-Egg6142@reddit
I thought itvwas 5600 watts peak?
Sufficient-Soft6734@reddit
Their listed peak wattage would math out if they were using 72v instead of 60v. An aniioki representative I bantered with in a comment section said that their peak wattage was high for people who like to modify. Each of the wheels on the new ones have 72 spokes. I'm not a conspiracy theorist or anything but...
Sufficient-Soft6734@reddit
Aniioki is using a blade type cell now. It's a 16s 1p configuration for the 60v battery. 70-80 amp hours worth of mediocre quality 18650 or 21700 cells would be quite expensive indeed. But instead, using only 16 cells total? One begins to see why it would be "inexpensive"
TheManDapperDan@reddit
definitely use the quotes, because 4 grand isn't cheap