Help: My wife is a music teacher (from home) and one of her (child) students is pooing in our bin - how to word an email to parents?
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I’m not fucking making this SHIT up.
My wife has some non-native family’s come for piano lessons.
We keep finding poo (on its own, no toilet roll) in the tiny bin next to the loo (usually reserved for the cardboard paper tubes).
I’ve thrown away the whole thing (£5 from IKEA) - fuck cleaning that thing.
Me and the wife cannot keep a straight face when talking aloud to word this email. We need help.
“Dear parents, please stop your kids shitting in out bin, thanks”.
Please help!!
intangible-tangerine@reddit
In some countries you're not supposed to flush toilet paper, people put it in the bin instead. Possible that this child was taught this rule and is confused and thinks the poo goes in the bin.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
Exactly. This is my point.
Ybuzz@reddit
Maybe a little kid friendly sign like this on the back of the loo or the wall above it would be helpful? And one on the bin couldn't hurt saying what goes in there too.
buford419@reddit
Why is the shit always so fucking happy in these depictions?
Sej0090@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
They're either too young to understand how to use toilets properly (or according to some have never seen a toilet and can't speak English) so can't really read or doing it for some other reason than not knowing. It can't harm but probably not the answer.
Ybuzz@reddit
I mean the family may not speak much English but the child speaks enough to do lessons with OPs wife. I'm assuming they know how toilets work and aren't all that young given, again, doing music lessons and going unaccompanied to the loo - so I am thinking probably just from a country where plumbing is dodgy and you only flush liquids. Some countries you do just have a bin next to the loo for solids/paper.
Pictures help too with young kids, especially if the parents level of English isn't great.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
The bins beside toilets are for paper, not poo. I'm pretty sure a child enough to go to piano lessons as you say knows how a toilet works, for some reason they just aren't doing it.
TheLimeyLemmon@reddit
That would be insane. I don't believe it's the case.
AbjectGovernment1247@reddit
U/English_Joe we need an update please. 💩
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
My wife’s been sick so postponed lessons.
KingForceHundred@reddit
How old is the child - maybe they’re used to a potty or small toilet at home?
ExoticOracle@reddit
I find it absolutely bizarre that someone would be here from anywhere in the world and be civilised enough to send their kid to play the piano, and yet their kid is unable to deposit their shite into a toilet.
I understand other countries have other customs around shitting due to poor sewage systems etc., but this just seems so odd.
I'd probably just speak to the parents and ask them to tell their kid to stop shitting in the bin like a fucking animal.
palindromedev@reddit
Wife just needs to write a song called "Please stop shitting in the bin" and have the child make it their focus for the rest of the month during lessons.
Should be subtle enough to resolve the situation.
pszichoapu@reddit
Maybe remove the bin form the bathroom when said student comes to the house for their lesson? Then, put it back.
Misselphabathropp@reddit
Take out the bin.
warm_golden_muff@reddit
Just remove the bin. No need for confrontation
Yamistar248@reddit
‘Hello parents, I’m sorry to have to send this email but please can you speak with your child and inform them that when they need the bathroom, the toilet is the appropriate place for faeces, not the bin. We hope this will not be an issue moving forward. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. ‘
iThoughtOfThat@reddit
Bet its tour wife messing with you psychologically LOL
Anxious_backPassage@reddit
I normally shite in a bin as my turds are so big they block the toilet....maybe this is the case?
Factsonly42069@reddit
‘Don’t shit in our bin’
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
Wordy.
mayfeelthis@reddit
Is it done already?
How old is the kid?
I’d mention it seems their kid is maybe mistaking the bin for a potty and ask how they’d like you to handle that as you wouldn’t want to enter the toilet while their child is there. Suggest maybe they can show him next time to use the toilet.
They can google translate most likely so keep it simple, being foreign is likely not the issue don’t assume.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
I’m not positing this during the event lol. Yes it’s fine.
Imperial_Squid@reddit
"Hi,
No bin shitting.
Cheers,"
Bladders_@reddit
"Name's Osama, Osama Bin Shittin"
blitzwig@reddit
Bin Shitn't
Sailboat_fuel@reddit
Hello, I’m Ben Shiddent.
iuseemojionreddit@reddit
I shit you not.
Fred_Chopin@reddit
Shit us not.
LaraLovesLatex@reddit
Osama Bin Shittin
CaptainChampion@reddit
"No shit bin."
batchelorm77@reddit
Well if they shit on the floor it's 50 euros.....Each time!
ratemychicken@reddit
Concise and to the point, I like it.
angel_0f_music@reddit
"Dear parents
We have recently had issues with students defecating (pooing) outside of the toilet facilities.
If your child needs to relieve themselves while in our home, they are free to use our toilet and do not need to be shy about asking to do so. Please let your child know that they are welcome to use the toilet in our home if they need to. Many thanks."
rinkydinkmink@reddit
this is probably far too complicated for parents whose first language is not English, and I am assuming that this isn't a psychological problem the child has, rather that perhaps they have moved from somewhere where toilets aren't a thing, and they don't know what to do?
A great deal depends on the age of the child, and how long they have been in the UK.
OP you do need to have a quiet word with the parents. Be a grown-up about it. It's poo not nuclear waste. And parents are used to talking about poo. If the parents don't seem to care or understand, then perhaps speak directly to the child and keep it really simple "when need the loo, it goes in the toilet, yeah?" Don't be judgemental or scold them, and keep it very matter of fact and pretend that it's no more of a big deal than telling someone where the sugar is.
If all this doesn't work, you will have some hard decisions to make. But at the moment I'd assume this is a mistake rather than malice, and also it's possible there is some problem with using the toilet that you are unaware of.
MasterFrost01@reddit
I can't imagine a scenario where a child who's grown up never seeing a toilet needs piano lessons
pajamakitten@reddit
Universities have had a lot of issues with Chinese students not using toilets properly. I taught at a pre-assessment course for them at a Russell Group university and we had to include how to use a toilet in our introductory lectures.
Senior_Entry_7616@reddit
I used to be a cleaner for Uni dorms at a very prestigious university in England, the amount of people who poop in the bin or wipe themselves an put the tissue in the bin!
still-searching@reddit
Even in parts of Europe (e.g. the Balkans) toilet paper in the bin is the done thing. We have a very good sewer system in the UK compared to a lot of the world!
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
I lived in the Balkans for a few years. Bog roll goes down the bog.
My wife is from the Balkans and says bog roll goes down the bog.
Where on earth are you getting your information?
still-searching@reddit
When I travelled there back in 2019 a lot of places had signs saying not to flush. Went to Serbia, Kosovo and North Macedonia, also Hungary which I know isn't in the Balkans.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Never seen it in Serbia, Bulgaria (where I lived), Greece or Romania.
Even though it's not Balkan I've been through and stayed in Hungary a few times when travelling back and fourth and never seen such a sign.
chuckie219@reddit
It’s common in Greece or at least was 10 years or so ago.
Maybe not in Athens? On the Greek islands I’d been to it’s always been toilet roll in the bin.
StellarManatee@reddit
Yep all of the Greek islands have the bin for toilet paper. The sewer systems can't cope with it.
jael001@reddit
yeah in Zante you had to put the toilet roll in the bin. I hated it.
Danmoz81@reddit
Same in Cyprus. No paper down the toilet.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Now we're getting to it.
Even then it's absolutely not common practice.
Direct_Orchid@reddit
One of the oldest Romanian Universities has a sign in a women's bathroom that said not to flush paper.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
So that's one old buildings bog. I guess that means all of the Balkans are the same.
AdhesivenessNo6288@reddit
Greeks must hate you - dont flush loo roll down Greek toilets! The pipes man, the pipes!
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
This is absolutely not universal across every bog in Greece.
AdhesivenessNo6288@reddit
It's enough bogs to not do it unless it's your own home and you can guarantee it.
DannyBrownsDoritos@reddit
This was definitely a thing in both Bulgaria and Albania.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Literally lived there for 2 years and didn't see it once, in the cities or out in the villages I was in.
Even my grandparent inlaws in a old house in a dead village outside Stara Zagora it was not like this at all.
DannyBrownsDoritos@reddit
Distinctly remember seeing signs in a bar in Veliko Tarnovo and a hostel in Plovdiv, dunno what to say.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Lmao a shitty bar in a town with more brits than Bulgarians it makes sense given what we do with drink on board.
And a hostel. Yeah, must have been a great one.
That being said, plovdiv is great.
DannyBrownsDoritos@reddit
Really don't know what to say man. It's definitely a really common thing in Bulgaria, dunno why you're being so defensive about it.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Because it's absolutely not a common thing in Bulgaria. At all.
I just asked my (Bulgarian) wife and she looked at me like I've 2 heads.
Such an odd thing to lie about on the Internet.
DannyBrownsDoritos@reddit
That's just not the case is it? Can you get away with it? Yeah, probably. Are there signs across Bulgaria in toilets adivising tourists not to do this? Also yes.
You're the one lying mate, not me.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
This is the lie. The closest would be the signs on the bogs on the motorway services in Turkish saying not to squat and put rubbish down the bog.
Absolutely not for bog roll.
Such an odd, and easily verifiable lie.
DannyBrownsDoritos@reddit
Yeah which is why your insistence otherwise is so strange.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Why would an insistence on the truth be strange?
wookieverse@reddit
Greece. Back in the day, toilet paper had to go in a basket by the toilet. Not sure if that’s still a thing.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
It never was universal.
Irksomecake@reddit
I’ve lived in the U.K. my whole life. I grew up in a household where you couldn’t flush tp. We lived off road and had a septic tank installed after using a compost toilet for a few years. Putting paper in the septic tank caused a kind of paper mache build up that needed heavy machinery to remove. The tank drainage lorry got stuck on our access track and nearly capsized and we took great care to make sure we never needed one again. It was a very uncommon situation but as a very small child I was confused by a lot of stuff people take for granted.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
See? There can be bad plumbing everywhere.
I used to live in the countryside and had a septic tank. It took anything. Once a year the council would empty it, the biggest 'problem' was finding the top of the tank because the grass would grow over it and whatever sticks or slabs set down the stupid cows would move them.
warm_sweater@reddit
I just learned on Reddit yesterday you guys have giant diameter shitter pipes, like 110mm or some such.
VerbingNoun413@reddit
It's where adventurers fought rats back in the day.
xokatt@reddit
I live in the Canary Islands and everywhere in public it’s expected that toilet paper goes in the bin. The drains are so bad that paper causes them to block and overflow.
takemeawayimdone2@reddit
I’ve visited Greece a couple of times and you have to put toilet paper in bin. Their sewage system cant handle the paper.
CrazyQuiltCat@reddit
American here. I used to do mission trips And every mission trip -despite them telling us repeatedly to not flush the toilet paper down the toilet because it will plug the pipes up. Inevitably someone would forget, because it is just muscle memory, and they would have to call the plumbers out and fix the overflowing toilet EVERY single mission
GarethGore@reddit
the TP in the bin is actually relatively common, its due to a lot of countries having old sewer systems, TP being flushed jams them up. In the UK its not really a thing, as modern sewers, but its common in lots of countries, genuinely have explained to people and its so alien to them to flush it
It happened to me when visiting a turkish friend, she had to explain to the cleaner at the museum we were visiting, if looks could kill, that cleaner would have murdered me.
Seayarn@reddit
You can't flush paper in most parts of Brazil.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Was it a shared bathroom? We had one between six (at my non prestigious university) and there were times i could have been tempted by the bin lol.
Stunning_Vegetable17@reddit
I like that you mention it's a russel group, as though one should expect that unacceptable toilet behaviour is more likely to occur at a lower ranking University.
blue-eyed-zola@reddit
Brown Brick Universities, clearly.
Enough-Variety-8468@reddit
Did you need to teach them not to wander into traffic? Also at a Russell group and it drives me mad
pajamakitten@reddit
Yep. Every year we would have people contact the uni because of all the Chinese students just walking in the road with traffic going 40mph like they had a death wish.
Mean_Swordfish_5732@reddit
I live with a Chinese student (who’s no longer a student but faked it to get into my house, avoid council tax and stay in the country illegally but that’s another story) and he has shat on the floor so many times and was shitting in bags to then bring to the bathroom when he first moved in
My first year uni accom had the same problem where they had to send out emails for the Chinese students over a variety of issues including shitting in bags and getting it on the floor/leaving it in the bin room
Opening_Succotash_95@reddit
I wouldn't be certain - I recall a lot of stories a few years back about Chinese tourists shitting in the aisle on planes etc. reason being that some people went very quickly from traditional rural peasants to making enough money to living in a city and flying to Europe/USA. They never learned certain things in between.
WrackspurtsNargles@reddit
They aren't fucking neanderthals. Sounds like some racist propaganda to me. You can't seriously think that's true.
Anywhere_everywhere7@reddit
Do you actually believe that? They will have seen signs in the airport for toilets. But let’s say your story is true, even “rural peasants” don’t shit in front of everyone, so if a person wanted to use the toilet they would just ask the cabin crew, they won’t just pull down their pants and shit in front of everyone because they’re from a rural place.
I have been to toilets in very rural Asia (not China) and they’re still private.
Renfieldslament@reddit
It may surprise you. I travelled for work to Mumbai in a super fancy office.
In the cubicle was a laminated sign explaining how to sit on the toilet, and how to flush it.
It was many years ago, but if I remember correctly one of the ‘do not’ graphics had a picture of someone sitting on the cistern and taking aim from a great height.
SeduLOUs1984@reddit
I KNEW this picture I took would come in handy someday!
Diligent-Sherbet2587@reddit
In the NO picture the person looks like they are close to the position that they would need to be in to leave an upper decker, but they would have to be a little higher, and further back. Plus the lid would have to be off the tank.
RedRoofTinny@reddit
“Upper decker” just fart laughed, luckily I’m in the right place, and indeed sitting correctly 😂😂
Dimac99@reddit
When I was in New Zealand, these signs were in just about every single toilet I visited because of the number of visitors from south east Asia. When I visited Japan, all the squat toilets had signs in English explaining how to use them and not to put any paper down them, simply because non-native visitors had no idea they couldn't do that. I bet plenty of Japanese thought it odd that foreigners wouldn't know how to use something as basic as a squat toilet. (I only peed on my own trouser leg once!)
CoolRanchBaby@reddit
I was in some relatively nice public park women’s restroom beside Lake Tahoe in the U.S. recently and every single toilet seat had footprints on it! I was like wow, there must have just been a tour bus here from a place that uses those holes you squat over in public loos or something. I said to my sister they need a sign like that you just posted here!
momghoti@reddit
I know people that always squat with their feet on the seat in public toilets because they think sitting on a public toilet seat is gross 🤷. Either that, or they hover and get pee all over the seat
ComfortableStory4085@reddit
Arhh yes, the viscous cycle of poo.
Climb on the toilet because it's "filthy" ⬇️ Get foot marks, piss and shit all over the seat ⬇️ Leave that for the next person ⬇️ They're know justified in thinking it's filthy ⤴️
CoolRanchBaby@reddit
It’s not safe to actually stand on a toilet seat though. It’s not made to hold that kind of weight. There have been a lot of cases of injury when the seat breaks off the hinges while someone is standing on it and they slip and fall.
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Thanks for this relevant update from America
CoolRanchBaby@reddit
I was visiting family there and the post of the sign made me think of it. I guess it’s a worldwide phenomenon!!
PantherEverSoPink@reddit
Squat toilets are common in India though, someone could be educated and have a good job but still be used to a squat toilet. I wonder if this child might be using a potty at home? Or maybe didn't realise they could lift the lid if the toilet - children are strange little people and sometimes don't realise if something isn't obvious
Enough-Variety-8468@reddit
Still on parts of Europe too
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Most likely they can't lift the lid properly, or are used to a special seat reducer or even it's too high, my kid used a stool at home for ages.
360Saturn@reddit
A stool stool?
rosieredcheeks2020@reddit
I have a poo stool and am 40 years old 🤣🤣🤣🤣
forworse2020@reddit
That’s because people might squat with feet on the seat, which comes from a normal, even healthier learned position for going to the toilet - only western toilets aren’t designed for it. They put these signs in non-squatting toilets (ours), but obvs you can squat in the others.
Top-Ad-6838@reddit
Its not because people dont know what a toilet it. It is because of squad toilets, which are the norm in a lot of countries and probably also in India.
The 'do not' graphic you are describing is just someone doing squad toilet method on a western toilet. From their point of view it makes the most sense.
fearfabsnap@reddit
My university had signs up about 12 years ago telling people how to use a toilet. One of the pictures had an image of a guy standing on the toilet seat while squatting over the bowl with a red line through it.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
But this child is living in the UK. You don't jump off the plane and straight to a piano lesson.
BikeApprehensive4810@reddit
Asian parents beg to differ.
360Saturn@reddit
Coming soon in Amazon's James Bond
Enough-Variety-8468@reddit
Sanitary systems in other countries aren't geared up for solid waste
Mean_Swordfish_5732@reddit
I agree with you but also my flat mate at uni was a piano and singing teacher and a lot of Asian immigrants would send their children to her to be taught one or the other but would do similar things to the child in OPs post.
Learning piano is quite literally a priority to these parents for whatever reason
McLeod3577@reddit
We had a Turkish student stay with us- now this guy was late 20's but when he first arrived, he had no idea how to use a sit down loo (this was 30 years ago).
He was a nice guy, but definitely had some kind of neanderthal genes.
My mum and dad actually had to teach him. They only had squat loos at home.
My mum went to visit his family and they were so grateful for how we looked after him like a family member. My mum was there for 10 days and after 7 days of using the squat loo, one of the aunties asked if she wanted to use the "special one" - low and behold .. a sit down toilet in another room!
Kirstemis@reddit
Neanderthal genes?
McLeod3577@reddit
Thick boned forehead and caveman style appearance and gait.
Kirstemis@reddit
What does that have to do with toileting?
McLeod3577@reddit
Nothing, just imagery
MasterFrost01@reddit
Huh, I had no idea squat toilets were a thing. Apparently my toilet knowledge is lacking
fleurmadelaine@reddit
There are some countries where you might have a toilet, but you can’t flush solids.
one-man-circlejerk@reddit
That's what happens when you rush part of the tech tree
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
And somehow lives in the UK in a home with no toilet but goes to piano lessons and nowhere else.
Key_Health_83@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
oldstoneschoolhouse@reddit
OP, You really do need to speak to the parents and the child. If this is going on it's also unlikely that he's washing his hands properly afterwards. He's there for a piano lesson so... guess where those pooey little fingers are going next?
Kirkamel@reddit
It's alright, he's not wiping so clean hands
Othersideofthemirror@reddit
They might not speak English, but translating languages on electronic devices isnt a problem in 2025.
CrystalLettuce7349@reddit
If they don’t speak and read English, how can they afford piano lessons? and how did they come to the UK without good knowledge of English, to begin with?
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Some of these scenarios are insane, a whole family who doesn't speak English apparently living in some place in the UK that doesn't have its own toilet, and has never been to school, yet they're signing up their kid for piano lessons. Lol.
SensibleChapess@reddit
Hi, I've worked at a place that sells the full range of furniture. The sort of place you can turn up and basically fit your whole home out, (it's independant, so I'm sorry but I don't want to name it... all I'll say is it's in Kent).
One day I wasn't in, so I missed it happening, but the owner found a human turd in the middle of one of the sofa aisles. They looked on the CCTV and it turned out a family had been browsing, (two parents and two teen kids), when the eldest boy, probably about 15 or 16, simply dropped his trousers, crouched down and did a poo. The rest of the family did no more than look across at him and carried on nonchalantly browsing.
The poo was done within clear line-of-sight of the sign and the door to the loos. They didn't rush to leave the shop, they apparently just carried on looking around. Presumably that means they had no clue what they'd done wasn't 'normal' in the UK.
So, I guess it's a cultural thing and they simply had no experience of shops having public toilets. Maybe they are used to a 'lower class' of people who, in their culture, 'expect' to go around cleaning human poo up? I really don't know.
Note: By coincidence, and interestingly, the shop does also have a few pianos for sale!!!
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
There is nowhere that it's culturally acceptable to poo in the middle of shops. And if there was the people wouldn't be browsing furniture shops in the UK (or taking piano lessons). More like a kid with special needs and they didn't know how to handle it.
Mean_Swordfish_5732@reddit
Public pooing is definitely normal in a lot of places because it happens in Liverpool, I’ve seen it twice. Once outside a parking lot and once outside a uni building.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Maybe it's normal outside in Liverpool, not in most places in the UK. Or maybe those people got caught short and couldn't wait?
SensibleChapess@reddit
On Reddit a few days ago, in the r/maps sub, (I think), someone posted a map of the world where 'public pooing' was the standard, instead of pooing in private.
Personally, I think pooing in front of your family and neighbours is far weirder to get my head round than someone thinking it's 'correct' to poo in a bin next to a loo, than the loo itself.
Maybe the kid in OP's post came from culture where bins are used and collected at the end of the day? Indeed, I think homes in Greenland, (with cars, heating, mobile phones, internet, etc.), use the 'poo in a box' solution instead of flushing toilets. There it is simply because the ground is too frozen to make it worthwhile laying pipework, plus any underground sewers would in any case freeze up. Trucks drive around the towns in Greenland every few days picking up the boxes and taking them away... I saw a program about it on the TV!
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
In public maybe, in the middle of a shop no. And if the whole family is buying furniture in the UK they know it's not acceptable there. And in Greenland maybe, but again if they get as far as moving to the UK they know it's not done there.
Danglyweed@reddit
Really?
Gauntlets28@reddit
"When we need the loo, it goes in the toilet, yeah?"
*Poos in bin, chucks bin in toilet*
FlapjackAndFuckers@reddit
They can play piano but don't know what a toilet is??? Gtfo😅
Deviant-Oreo@reddit
The true answer right here.
namegame62@reddit
Wondered the same about the toilet sitch, given OP went out of his way to mention the parents were immigrants, but honestly I am really scratching my head over which nations on earth a) commonly use drop toilets and b) have many expat parents whose 1st and major priority on immigrating to the UK is to pay for pricey private piano lessons before familiarising their kid with the new flushing loo? Not an expert, but the Venn diagram seems small... y'know?
If he'd said "the bathroom floor is constantly wet, I think when the kid is washing his bum he's splashing it everywhere", that's one thing. Gotta bring your own lota pot to the white people house! Legit cultural toilet-habit difference for some kids to learn! This is not that.
(Mayyyybe the family previously grew up somewhere the plumbing can't handle solids? But even that's a minor stretch.)
I'd place a bet more on one kid being shook by the move and the piano tutoring pressure, and this is a weird massive-constipated-shit trauma response.
Either way, straightforward is the way to go. Direct to kid and/or parents. Explain situation. Outline solution, using your type of casual phrasing.
Or: demonstrate toilet use. Walk the kid to the bathroom and be like "Oh, I know the plumbing can be a bit tricky in an old house/newbuild flat/custom built bathroom setup/ like this... so anyway this is the toilet seat, that's the trick to lift up the heavy toilet lid, that's where the flush is, and you just need to press/pull that after all the poo and solid waste goes inside the toilet bowl, yeah? Just close the lid afterwards if the flush isn't strong enough, it's fine." The kid who's done it will probably twig one way or the other and won't do it again.
eventworker@reddit
India all the way. Lots of flush toilets installed in areas where the sewage system can't handle them but having one is an upper middle class class marking, even if you still have to throw the shit rags in the bin.
Parents don't bother telling kids when they move to the west that you can throw TP down the new toilet, because to them that change is extremely minor and barely registers, in their mind they 'shit European' anyway, because they use a flush loo.
It could also be a rural Aussie kid taking the 'only put the shit rags down the bog at home' far more literally than intended, but I doubt their parents would be going straight to private piano lessons right off the boat.
EdgeCityRed@reddit
It's like this on Crete. Toilet paper goes in the bin because the old pipes can't handle it.
Flat_Fault_7802@reddit
Clever enough to play the piano but dosent know how to take a shit properly no paper either.
maelie@reddit
Neither playing the piano nor pooing in a toilet requires particular intelligence. Both require understanding what you're supposed to do. It's hard to wrap your head around the fact that someone might not know how to use a toilet because we have them in pretty much every single home in the UK and our children are exposed to seeing them used early in life, but that's not the case everywhere.
Seriously though, we have it in the news alllll the time at the moment that quite a lot of school aged British kids can't use a toilet independently. Why is it such a stretch to think someone brought up in a different context might not be able to?
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
A child who's doing piano lessons in the UK knows what a toilet is.
Zealousideal_Day5001@reddit
if I got a 'dear parents' email like that then I would assume it must be for some other parent
QOTAPOTA@reddit
That’s called being tactful.
Zealousideal_Day5001@reddit
Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade and leave no doubt. "Dear Melissa, Billy is not using our toilet but is instead relieving himself in the bathroom bin, this cannot reoccur, kind regards
QOTAPOTA@reddit
Yeah I get it. Could also lose a customer that way too. If my kid was shitting in someone’s bin I’d never want to show my face again.
ringadingdingbaby@reddit
I'd rather just lose the customer tbh
QOTAPOTA@reddit
That customer, definitely.
AdhesivenessNo6288@reddit
"This cannot reoccur" SCREAMING!
cyberllama@reddit
Or be a huge wuss, buy a separate 'poo bin' to swap out for the normal one just before this kid's lesson. Empty it down the loo after the kid has gone and fill it with bleach until next week's lesson 😂
angel_0f_music@reddit
Unless OP can direct it to a specific parent, is there another way of wording it?
Normal_Red_Sky@reddit
I think you're overlooking the fact that they may not know how to use a western style toilet and may just be too embarrassed to ask. Squat toilets are quite common in South Asian countries especially.
OkayYeahSureLetsGo@reddit
My nephew did this once as an olderish kid. I have no idea why, neither does his parent. He also has no idea why, assumed he was just overwhelmed and kinda glitched as it was during a super busy bday party at a rented spot? He does have ASD but it doesn't impact at all on physical stuff. I felt super bad for him and his parents as he basically had to leave the party as the business was very upset about it. To be clear it was the bin in the bathroom, not in an open room.
Moongazer09@reddit
William Hansen, is that you!? 😂
Draigdwi@reddit
This doesn’t say what the child does. Too vague and doesn’t tell the parents exactly what you expect them to do.
Nandor1262@reddit
I don’t think they’re doing it because they’re not sure they’re allowed the fact it’s the bin next to the toilet to me screams they don’t know how to use a toilet.
Friends of mine work for a large Engineering firm and they’d have Indian colleagues flying in for a week of meetings. They had to send out memos explaining how to use toilet because people were squatting stood on the seat and aiming for the hole but making a massive mess.
maelie@reddit
At the uni/hospital I worked in they had to have diagrams of how to use the toilet (and how not to, with a big cross through it) to show internationals just that. Not all countries use toilets like ours in the same way.
Same as how when you go on holiday to certain other countries you get signs up telling you not to flush the paper down the toilet - we just do it by default, not realising it's not how the system works there and the paper should go in the bin.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
But this kid isn't using the toilet wrong, they're just not using it.
maelie@reddit
If you don't know how to use a toilet, or can't use it, it's completely plausible that you just wouldn't use it. Especially if you're a child. It's possible they don't even know that they're supposed to use it. Some other parts of the world don't have toilets that resemble ours at all.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
They're doing piano lessons in the UK. They live in the UK, they have a toilet at home and at school. They had toilets at the airport and on the plane on the way to the UK. This child is not being dropped in from a remote tribe for piano every week.
maelie@reddit
How do you know they've used the toilet at the airport or in the current home or the school? They might not have figured it out yet. Most kids in the UK know the toilet is used because they've seen toilets being used since they were babies. They know that even if they haven't learned to use the toilet properly themselves. If you're not surrounded by toilet use growing up, you might not know it. Or you may have a child who can't use the toilet by themselves (can't figure out how to get up onto the seat without help or a set of bsteps for example) so goes for what seems like the alternative.
I don't know how old this child is or how long they've been in the UK. I do know there are British kids of school age still in nappies because they can't use the toilet independently. It's not that much of a stretch to me. And in terms of dealing with the situation, discussing it with the parents as though it's something unintentional rather than malicious is probably going to be the better approach irrespective.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Ok sure, these parents are spending a fortune and taking the time to have their child in piano lessons but they don't let them into the bathroom at home and what? Send them to go out in the garden?. Are you suggesting some kind of super child who can sit through a whole school day without going near the toilet but can't last a piano lesson? The children still in nappies at school are the result of neglect (unless it's special needs), I doubt they'd be taking their kids to learn piano.
Of course I don't think it should be dealt with as malicious or that it is, but they also shouldn't treat the parents as if they're clueless just because they're foreign. Imagine if OP send them an email explaining what a toilet is, that could be very offensive. Far more likely than a UK resident child somehow never even seeing the toilet in their home is that it's too high for them or the seat feels too big or they can't lift the lid or they're scared of something coming up it.
maelie@reddit
How do you know that? And what relevance is it anyway?
What? They might have a different setup at home, like a potty, or steps and a child seat for the loo.
There may be bins at the school they use too! Or if they're in infants, smaller toilets suitable for littler kids.
I don't believe that to be true in all cases. Bad parenting maybe but not neglect. But anyway I was just using this as a point of comparison, not saying it's the same context.
I'm not suggesting they write to the parents to explain what a toilet is.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
I didn't say the child wouldn't struggle, my point was precisely that we and OP shouldn't assume that the reason for the struggle is being foreign. As you said at home they might have a special seat or whatever and smaller toilets at school (I'd be very surprised if a child old enough for piano lessons had a potty). None of that is the same as not knowing what a toilet is and never having seen one as you claimed.
Private piano lessons are an expensive luxury, parents who are conscientious enough to sign their child up to that and willing to spend the money will have taken the time to potty train their child and teach them basic social niceties. Presumably the child already speaks English so they've either taken the time to teach them or they've been in the country for a while. And honestly, toilets are a thing everywhere, in some places they have squat toilets true, but that's a toilet. The kind of people who move to the UK and sign their kids up for piano have toilets.
maelie@reddit
That's actually not what I claimed at all though. My original reply was: "If you don't know how to use a toilet, or can't use it, it's completely plausible that you just wouldn't use it. Especially if you're a child. It's possible they don't even know that they're supposed to use it. Some other parts of the world don't have toilets that resemble ours at all."
I said can't use it, or possibly might not even know they're supposed to. I've since explained why I still think that's plausible, but I didn't suggest it was the only option and certainly didn't say that the child would never have seen a toilet before.
(Also as a minor aside, squat toilets definitely don't resemble ours. Not the ones I've used anyway. I'd say they're more like my bathroom bin than my toilet!)
Awordofinterest@reddit
I've heard horror stories from the guys who work at housing associations. On more than 1 occasion a household has ripped the toilet out and the backboard and were shitting in the cavity the soil pipe ran down.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
They're a kid who presumably goes to school and speaks English etc. more likely anxious.
Nandor1262@reddit
How do you know they speak English? There are loads of children on this country who don’t speak English
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
They're doing piano lessons with OP's wife who calls them non natives. Unless you think she's just demonstrating with her hands and not speaking. Children who don't speak English tend to have parents who don't speak English and these ones have clearly do if they've arranged piano lessons and OP plans to talk to them. Plus it would just be weird to send your non English speaking child to piano lessons with someone who can't talk to them.
Nandor1262@reddit
How do you know OP’s wife isn’t multi lingual? Or doing this as part of a program to help children who have just moved to this country?
I have a friend who is a Primary School teacher and has had kids put in his class who don’t speak a word of English. He’s even been told a child is from one country to then find out they’re actually from an entirely different place.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Ok, it's not completely impossible, but I'd be surprised at a multilingual piano teacher calling anyone "non natives". And that anyone using such language would participate in some kind of government scheme to send recent immigrant children to piano classes with private teachers. Because honestly, that would be crazy, it's just not something that happens. Especially before a child has had the opportunity to attend school where there are plenty of toilets. There are also toilets in airports, stations and in whatever accommodation these children are living in now. Unless you're suggesting they're transported from a remote tribal life with no modern conveniences straight to OP's house. There are no entire countries that don't have toilets anyway, and to leave the country and enter a new one they'll go places with toilets
Yes, kids go to primary school without knowing English, because the very first thing they do normally is go to school. Being enrolled in piano lessons before school would just be plain weird.
A little kid being anxious or scared of something jumping up or even scared of falling down the toilet is much more likely. Maybe they normally only go to small children's toilets at school and have a special seat at home. And when out their parents accompany them. My kid was scared to go toilets other than home and school for ages. And she wasn't a kid who'd been uprooted from their home to move countries.
wandering_salad@reddit
Technically, the bin in the toilet space is part of "the toilet facilities". People struggling to adjust to UK customs will probably struggle with the language so will not get the message this way.
lunaj1999@reddit
This is a good. I’d also put up a sign in your bathroom, it shouldn’t be necessary but I guess it is.
DennisTheConvict@reddit
P.s. the bins are off limits!
ComradeKeira@reddit
Hi Parent of Child,
You pay me for music training not toilet training. Each time you child fails to shit in the toilet is an additional £**** (insert acceptable amount) I will be required to charge you.
Sincerely
Funny_Foundation_980@reddit
Subject: Gentle Reminder: Bathroom Etiquette
Dear Parents,
I hope you are doing well. I wanted to reach out regarding a small but important matter that has come to our attention.
We have noticed that solid human waste has been placed in the bathroom bin instead of the toilet. To maintain proper hygiene, we kindly ask that all students use the toilet for this purpose and flush after use. The small bin provided is for paper waste only.
We understand that bathroom practices may vary across different households, and we appreciate your support in ensuring all children are aware of local expectations. If your child requires any guidance, please let us know so we can assist them.
Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
peppermint_aero@reddit
Jesus fucking christ, not everything has to go through chatgpt. If the family don't have great English this is absolutely not the way.
Funny_Foundation_980@reddit
Are you ok? Having a bad day?
peppermint_aero@reddit
You know what, I actually was having a terrible day. Sorry for unloading on you, wasn't fair.
Funny_Foundation_980@reddit
It's almost the weekend. Hope you have a good one.
peppermint_aero@reddit
Thanks, same to you!
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
“Solid human waste” 😂
SpaTowner@reddit
If the parents happen not to have great English, that’s going to be too oblique.
Subject: Toilet Use
Hello, Today your child placed a turd in a bin next to our toilet.
This is not acceptable behaviour. All human waste, liquid or solid must go into the toilet itself and be flushed away with water.
Please ensure that your child understands that their behaviour was not acceptable and that it insulted us and our home.
If they place turds in the bin a second time, they will no longer be allowed to come to this house and their lessons will be cancelled.
Yours sincerely
OP
Tall_Cat7486@reddit
Put up a sign in your W/C?
mamainak@reddit
What is a 'non-native' family?
Twinkubusz@reddit
Take a wild guess
mamainak@reddit
Racist, then 😒
Twinkubusz@reddit
...is it a racist fact that in some countries, toilets aren't as standard as they are here? I mean, that's an actual fact. I'd love you to go to India, see your first squat toilet, and cry that it's racist 😂😂
mamainak@reddit
Your logic doesn't make sense.
It's racist to assume and call someone filthy just because their 'non-native'. Just because some countries don't have the same plumbing, it doesn't mean they leave shit in the waste bin. This is an individual
And BTW, I grew up with squat toilets and bidets. We never littered or spat on the street. We also don't have people drinking to such an extent.
We also had to introduce fines for public indecency because of British tourists vomiting and pissing in the street, and getting naked in the middle of the town, in broad daylight.
So should all other countries assume that British people are all filthy because of that? That would be racist, wouldn't it?
SportTawk@reddit
Hide all your bins and any recepticle that could possibly be used, maybe get a cat litter tray!
NHIretrieval@reddit
Oi,
Your kids shitting in my bin. Av a word will ya
Southern_Passage_332@reddit
Non-native? Where are they from?
Remove the bin.
Downdownbytheriver@reddit
Why not just say you don’t want to teach them anymore?
orangecatginny@reddit
Face-to-face conversation:
"Just to let you know, _____ did a poo in the bin last time they were here. Please can you have a word with them about it so they use the toilet appropriately next time."
Doesn't need to be a big deal.
Going forward, I would definitely be checking this child has washed their hands with soap before touching the piano.
RutabagaElegant3215@reddit
As a parent living in an area with great diversity, I agree with you. When English is not the family first language / culture, it's better to be direct and talking about it face to face to make sure they understand. In some cultures, directly pointing out what happened is their social norm.
Yes - re the hand washing part too.
Downdownbytheriver@reddit
There is “diversity” and “culture” and then there is just plain uncivilised.
flamboyantpuree@reddit
A lot (all?) UK universities that I've visited have signs in their toilets like this one as they have a lot of foreign students not used to western toilets. Does it work? No idea. But maybe a similar sign could help.
justhisguy-youknow@reddit
There was a hellscape at college week 1, the urinals were used.
mlloyllo@reddit
Just replace the first image with a bin and you’re golden.
ThrowRAMomVsGF@reddit
ChatGPT came up with this:
BibbleBeans@reddit
From my experience they don’t. There was even a multilingual sign about the location of squat toilets.
The main issue was the repeated damage to the toilet seats, only one time did I witness a mess.
Then again it was a Welsh university, it might have been the locals from the valleys
Feeling-Paint-2196@reddit
I wonder how many groups you'd get away with that casual bigotry about these days? Yours, someone from the Welsh valleys.
Cat-Soap-Bar@reddit
My uni had several squat toilets, one in each building iirc, for this exact reason. The other toilets had these signs.
batteryforlife@reddit
In the UK?! Wow.
beejiu@reddit
They're actually better for your health to be fair.
Monsoon_Storm@reddit
In more ways than one.
I wish to god public toilets were squatters, no need to touch anything.
london-plane@reddit
It’s the natural position. My toddler is being potty trained but will naturally squat to poo. It’s a learning curve to sit instead.
17HappyWombats@reddit
You can even buy squatting frames for a western toilet. Or make your own if you're at all handy (then sand them smooth and paint them thoroughly because the frame will be in a wet environment). My composting toilet is a few cm higher than the alternative and I was shocked at how much difference that made. But once I made a little footrest for it I thought about squatting and it was easy enough to make a taller platform, try it, decide it was worth while, and make it a permanent feature in the toilet (it's still easy to use the toilet without squatting)
Isgortio@reddit
Until you slip on the wet ceramic. I saw too many overly wet squat toilets in Uganda :(
miaow-fish@reddit
My last workplace had one. A large ecom warehouse in the east midlands.
Cat-Soap-Bar@reddit
Yep!
Thinking about it, I am pretty sure both my uni’s had them but where I did my MA only had them at the main campus, there was definitely one in the main library. There weren’t any in the (small and listed) building where my course was based.
batteryforlife@reddit
Wild, never seen them anywhere in the UK (except maybe mosques??). TIL!
Typical_Nebula3227@reddit
UK Universities have a large number of overseas students, because they can charge them insanely large fees, which helps keep costs lower for UK students.
HirsuteHacker@reddit
'Helps keep costs lower for UK students' lol UK students get charged the maximum fees no matter how much their course actually costs, this is bullshit
bottledcherryangel@reddit
Today I learned that this is a thing people do and I regret being on Reddit.
EldritchPenguin123@reddit
I have some family in China who does it. It's usually for kids and the theory is you don't want to put your butt on where everyone else put their butt
bottledcherryangel@reddit
That makes sense, but one’s butt is just skin except for the actual orifice. It’s much worse to spray your excretions everywhere! Humans are so weird and diverse.
Eugenes_Axe@reddit
There's no spraying about it, and the squatting position is better for bowel movements
bottledcherryangel@reddit
I know squatting is healthier and maybe in squatting toilets it’s less of an issue but this entire thread started because I was appalled by the idea of people perching on the seat of a western toilet and making a huge mess.
lavenderacid@reddit
Yes, you're spot on. I used to work in an international school and the issue wasn't the squatting itself, it was that people would stand on the actual toilet seat and usually either miss or break it.
anabsentfriend@reddit
It's definitely not better for my hips, though.
EldritchPenguin123@reddit
And just in case you didn't know, most public toilets in China are squatting toilets. Imagine a ceramic hole in the ground. One of my least favorite parts of China
bottledcherryangel@reddit
I was aware that squat toilets were a thing because of that guy in Japan who got stuck in one. I would just feel so uncomfortable using one, especially for pooping (but then I’m really uptight about pooping anyway), but I guess they feel the same exact way about Western toilets.
KatVanWall@reddit
Squatting is actually a better position for emptying your bowels, hence the existence of the ‘squatty potty’ to help raise your feet while you’re sat normally on the seat pooing.
malakesxasame@reddit
My NHS Trust HQ has these in the men's toilets. A bleak state of affairs.
PengyLi@reddit
I have worked in several professional workplaces with a rich mix of international cultures. These signs are on the doors. I suspect that it's because pooping culture is different dependant on several factors including your country of origin's plumbing system, and if you've been taught to squat whilst you poop (deemed to be better for emptying the bowels completely) versus doing it in a sitting position.
BoleynRose@reddit
I've always thought these signs were for a joke 😅
nightdwaawf@reddit
Dear *
Your son/daughter appears to be taking to the piano tuition rather well and progressing nicely.
However he/she isn’t progressing too well in the use of the bathroom facilities. Can you please tell him that the large porcelain thing with the seat on and the shiny handle is for leaving their bog otters in, not my fucking IKEA waste bin.
You’re regrettably
Madame Treble Clef
FanWeekly259@reddit
Why is it so regrettable that they are Mme TC?
Icy-Tear4613@reddit
"Dear *"
Calling them a racial slur seems harsh.
nightdwaawf@reddit
😂😂😂😂
reticulatedbanana@reddit
Ahhh I was expecting the other half of the sandwich!
Dear so-and-so,
Nice thing, problem, nice thing.
Sign off.
Green_Battle_509@reddit
Madame treble cleft prefers continental sandwiches
Technical-Mind-3266@reddit
Be Frank
"Ya kid is shittin' in our bin, it's not on"
tkylivin@reddit
Absolutely insane we have these savages being ushered into the country.
Beobacher@reddit
Show them how to use the toilet. Explain it.
Seriously, in some countries flush toilets are completely unknown. I traveled China and Russia outside of the bog cities. They have the outhouse. Similar in some regions in Africa. Just politely explain how a flush toilet works. And ask them to please use it.
SnooSquirrels8508@reddit
Photos of it isn't real.
No_Pineapple9166@reddit
If you don’t know which child it is, I wouldn’t send an email to all parents. Firstly, nobody wants to be wrongly accused of something like that. Secondly, nobody wants to pay for piano lessons at shit-bin house.
Find out who it is and kick them out.
Due_Ear_4674@reddit
If they come from Asia, it is normal to put your used loo roll in the bin. Can you just leave a wee sign or ask the parents to have a word. They maybe just aren't aware?
Tski247@reddit
When they come to pick up there kid, you should give them the bin and the price for a replacement.🤷🏾♂️
Bore_369@reddit
Bit of a bum note
Richy99uk@reddit
Tell them it's BYOB from now.. Bring your own bin
Jlwooders7@reddit
Remove the bin when you are expecting the kid over and play hunt the poo.
Codders94@reddit
The email should have an easily understandable subject title and concise body.
Subject Bin poo
Body
Picture 1: You or your wife sitting on a toilet taking a shit with a big green tick next to it.
Picture 2: You or your wife shitting into the £5 ikea bin with a big red cross next to it.
— If you want to jazz it up abit, you could experiment with gifs. It’s abit more effort though.
Enough-Variety-8468@reddit
Your kid is shitting in our bin
We can't allow them to continue lessons unless this is addressed
Adventurous_Chart135@reddit
2 signs in bathroom, in front of toilet where you can see them when you sit.
1ST- Picture of toilet with poop, (preferably cartoonish)
2ND- Picture of bin with poop, circled with a slash through it.
dcminx96@reddit
"non-native" you sure this actually happened and isn't just a racist dog whistle
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
How would you describe someone not born in the UK?
tszewski@reddit
"non-native" lmao
Romfordian@reddit
Bin Unladen
_CB23_@reddit
Put a laminated sign up in the toilet when it’s their lesson time. Use child friendly diagrams to help cement the point in.
💩➡️🚽
Andagonism@reddit
In certain countries they don't use toilet tissue, they wash their bum with water.
Remove the bin before the person arrives, so they have to use the toilet.
Practical_Archer9025@reddit
Please ask your child not to shit in our bin, kind regards.
Fit_Lifeguard_3722@reddit
Bag it before you bin it. We have standards.
difficult_Person_666@reddit
Get a litter tray /s
DrachenDad@reddit
The pick the child up? Make them clean after their child.
bishibashi@reddit
Face to face, not an email. Also we don’t have natives.
condosovarios@reddit
We absolutely have native Brits.
Source: I'm not one
oudcedar@reddit
We absolutely do not. Historically we have always prided ourselves on being a mongrel race from the Beaker folk immigrating from Spain, to the Celts immigrating from Turkey to the Romans from all over the place to the Angles, Jutes, Danes and Saxons, the Normans, the Huguenots and on and on until today.
A native Brit is not a thing. We are a wonderful mix of immigrants.
PetersMapProject@reddit
How long does a population have to have been there to be counted as native?
Take it back far enough, and only people living in the part of Sub-Saharan Africa where humans first evolved (e.g. Botswana) could be considered native.
There's evidence of humans living in the UK from about 44,000 years ago.
There's amateur genealogists on both sides of my family and I'm not aware of any immigration amongst my direct ancestors. One did an Ancestry DNA test and came back 100% British. In places my ancestors have been traced back to generations of agricultural labourers who were born, lived, and died in the same corner of the west country.
I don't see this is something to be either proud of or ashamed of, though it is a little boring. It just is what it is.
How many generations do you have to be in one place before you're considered native?
commanderquill@reddit
Your question was probably rhetorical, but tbh I'd probably say if your family was in a place before record keeping, you're native to that place. But I'm American and my idea of "native", as well as nationality, is a bit different.
PetersMapProject@reddit
Not a rhetorical question, though I'm still interested to hear from /u/oudcedar on the topic.
If we're counting people who've been in the same area as far back as genealogical records go (which in the UK, is usually around 1600 as that's how far parish records go back, though sometimes longer if your family were nobles or landowners - then you might get back to the Domesday Book of 1086) then we have a great many native Britons. If you're a white American, you can always certainly trace your ancestry back to the point where your family arrived in the US. For people in the UK, it's usually just a case of records petering out about 400 years ago.
But I think the sense of time in the US, compared to the UK, is different - a church that's a thousand years old is unremarkable, for example, and there's plenty of clear evidence of the Romans being here 1600-2000 years ago. There's just a lot more very visible history around.
This means, of course, that if you believe anyone with Roman blood isn't native (unlike someone who's solely Celtic) then you'd have absolutely no way of proving who's who.
Of course, unlike Native Americans and Aboriginal Australians, we haven't suffered an invasion of another people and culture that took over (we were last successfully invaded in 1066) - which makes a distinction between native and non native much starker and more important. There's also a nasty tendency amongst some on the right to suggest that they're fighting for 'indigenous Britons' - and you know that's always going to be followed by something horrifically racist.
commanderquill@reddit
I would agree with everything you've said. If the last place you can trace your ancestry to is Britain, without evidence to suggest otherwise (some Americans, for example, may not be able to trace their records further than when they got here, but by default one must assume the majority of their ancestors aren't from here if they have no evidence to prove native blood), then you can only assume you're from Britain. Otherwise, you're from nowhere. Furthermore, whether some of your ancestors were originally Romans or some such, after thousands of years you have doubtlessly gotten ancestry from people who've been there longer, and them from people who have been there longer, and so on.
There were so many fewer humans, for one, and that compounded with a certain amount of time means the statistical likelihood that someone doesn't have the blood of a "native" Brit, no matter which group you decide is native, is very, very low.
Elegant_Rice_8751@reddit
Depends on who you ask. Many say South Africans will never be natives as they are genetically from Europe. Many say that is wrong as they have been there since 1652. Everyone you ask will say something different.
TroublesomeFox@reddit
Native literally means born there. Born in England? Your native English. Born in Romania? Your a Romanian native. Imo it has no bearing on anything other than birthplace 🤷
CURB_69@reddit
By that logic nobody anywhere is native
oudcedar@reddit
Britain far more than most places on continental Europe with very stable populations and much of Africa and Asia. We are unusually populated by waves of immigration.
Hyperion2023@reddit
This is absolutely, emphatically true- while many geographical areas / nations have had major population changes over known prehistory and history, and all human individuals technically have ancestors that come from ‘somewhere else’, the British Isles are amongst the most mobile and dynamic in terms of migration and population, going back as far as the last ice age.
Hyperion2023@reddit
It’s amazing that the wonders of human migration and society over centuries and kilometres, scaling mountain ranges and overcoming hardship, inventing new languages and customs, eventually result in us, on a Tuesday night, discussing bin shitting
CURB_69@reddit
Yhyh heard this racist stuff before ethnic Brits aren't natives in their own country but everyone else is.
Conscious-Cake6284@reddit
Nobody says that
oudcedar@reddit
I think Mr Churchill would disagree with you there. It’s the phrase I was always taught at school even if it’s fallen out of fashion now.
condosovarios@reddit
Do Native Americans not exist because they walked from Siberia? Are Maori people not native to New Zealand because they sailed from a different Polynesian island? Come on now.
oudcedar@reddit
I have no idea about Native Americans - I haven’t studied that history. But if British people were just the Beaker folk from Spain it would be very different. But the point about us being a proud mongrel race is that we have had major wave after wave after wave and that makes “native” a nonsense.
lemon-fizz@reddit
Oh have a day off. You know what he meant.
oudcedar@reddit
Don’t be ridiculous - if I see a racist trope I’m going to call it out.Most of these “native Brits” people don’t have the faintest idea of our actual history.
lemon-fizz@reddit
Like I said, have a day off. You don’t understand do you. People like you create resentment because you’re so fucking hell bent on making everything an issue that you just turn people off to your ideas. Jog on pal.
boyer4109@reddit
Wrap the sink in cling film before the kid arrives. Just saying.
five_five_@reddit
Next time the kid comes over just say "If you need the toilet just tell me and I'll show you where it is. Please don't do it in the bin like last time"
MavisFenderBender@reddit
Take the bin out of the toilet
MavisFenderBender@reddit
Take the bin out of the toilet
younevershouldnt@reddit
Talk about striking a bum note
Mammoth-Ad-562@reddit
Increase the price by £5 per lesson and give away a free bin to take home with each one
WeveGotBillySharp@reddit
Was it the kid that took a shit in the Hillsborough centre spot?
Educational_Fun_3752@reddit
Dear........
Please can you make sure your child has had a shit BEFORE coming over for their music lesson.
Thank you
LambGrav@reddit
When children have unusual toileting habits, it MAY be a result of abuse or some kind. This is abnormal behaviour.
peppermint_aero@reddit
Agree that this may be a safeguarding issue. OP can you contact the child's school?
ChrisBatty@reddit
Be clear and specific, there’s no need to be nice or subtle
me227a@reddit
This could be a call for help, kids can express themselves in strange ways.
Have you opened the poo to see if there's a message inside it?
Sensitive_Sherbet_68@reddit
God this thread is killing me 😂
Leader_Bee@reddit
You'd need a poop knife for that.
SingerFirm1090@reddit
What if you removed the bin prior to that pupil or pupils arriving for their lesson?
I realise that is tempting a greater mess, but it might solve the problem.
si_p81@reddit
Stop shitting in our bin!!
Stunning-Wave7305@reddit
Take the bin out of the bathroom before that kid turns up for their lesson. Put it back until next time.
Calm-Glove3141@reddit
The only answer is to write a song about shitting in the bin and make the child learn it and preform to the parents at recital
Otherwise_Cut_8542@reddit
Well now I’m wondering if it is a direct deposit situation or someone unloading what they have previously unloaded in their underwear.
Either way, I would just remove any replacement bin before lessons and see if that resolves it. If you start getting deposits elsewhere then you will have to brave the emails but for now I would try avoidance instead!
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
I wondered this too.
The poo in question was also massive and frankly quite square. Like a wombat.
Like someone emptied a tin of corned beef in the bin.
I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP.
ellenripleyisanicon@reddit
What in the corned beef square poop is happening in this child's digestive tract
Twacey84@reddit
Sounds like the kid may have some anxiety related toilet issues. Some kids hold onto it for ages due to anxiety and it can cause all sorts of problems like constipation and incontinence. Kids also don’t think logically so that’s probably why it ended up in the bin.
I would probably try avoidance in the first instance and remove any bin from the bathroom. If there are any more issues I might quietly speak to the parents rather than do an email. It’s likely part of an issue they’re already aware of.
Financial-Couple-836@reddit
What’s good about that is when the kid comes back in and says “I can’t find your shitting bin, did you move it?” then it’s the perfect time to have the discussion with them.
anabsentfriend@reddit
This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Thanks, OP. I really needed a laugh.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
😂
Tropicaljet_9@reddit
Perhaps the poo in question WAS deposited in the toilet but it was too large to flush. Perhaps the child solved the 'problem' by fishing it out and hiding it in the bin...
eventworker@reddit
Print this and hang it above your toilet.
Opening_Succotash_95@reddit
That sounds to me like the kid might have a nappy and they've emptied it out.
UnderstandingFit8324@reddit
Thank you for giving me a laugh I really needed
Pruritus_Ani_@reddit
Are you 100% sure your wife’s student isn’t in fact a wombat and not a human child?
conorking93@reddit
Lmao like a wombat
ShitBritGit@reddit
You keep saying you're not making this up. Something a person making it up would say.
StuckWithThisOne@reddit
Honestly nah, when something totally ridiculous and unbelievable happens to me, I find myself saying “I swear to God this is real, this happened” like ten times when I’m telling the story lol
J_rd_nRD@reddit
EUGH
Is the noise you just elicited from me at that description
arenaross@reddit
Non native?
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
New to this country. English isn’t their first language.
arenaross@reddit
Why was that relevant to the issue described in the OP?
Twinkubusz@reddit
1: potentially explains why their child wasn't familiar with using a toilet
2: highlights that it nay not be easy to communicate the issue with the parents
Quite easy to work out to be honest, not everything needs to be an opportunity to whinge
arenaross@reddit
Why would that explain why they were unfamiliar with a toilet?
Twinkubusz@reddit
Because there are quite a few countries where toilets as we know them aren't anywhere near as standard as they are over here, and as such, it's not unheard of for people immigrating from those countries to be unfamiliar with using a toilet
arenaross@reddit
If they're taking piano lessons then they're going to be familiar with society here.
Twinkubusz@reddit
Naive assumption
blueskybel@reddit
I wonder what would happen if you removed the bin
manual_typewriter@reddit
Take the bin out of the toilet. They may hopefully use the toilet if there isn’t anything else.
Ok-Hovercraft9348@reddit
Remove the bin. If their are young children leave a potty. Leave a step-up for the toilet. Add a smaller toilet seat when young children are there
SoggyAd5044@reddit
You didn't need to throw the bin away lol ho wasteful can you be
DRUGEND1@reddit
The answer my friend, is shitting in the bin.
levinyl@reddit
Even more disgusting is how tf are they wiping it?
JesusOnly8319@reddit
Why don't you ring them? Some things are best said verbally, and shitting issues is one of them
mrgonuts@reddit
Hi in my house we use the toilet not the bin tell your child thanks
SlippersParty2024@reddit
I worked in a University research institute for a while and we regularly had the toilets broken by visiting students from developing countries, all PhD level students, sitting with their feet on the seat.
New-Restaurant2573@reddit
Used to work in a building where we let a bunch of space to Shell. Highly paid people on this floor. Kept getting toilet seats broken several times a week and couldn't realise why. Most guys there were skinny so not their weight.
Then realised most of the floor were Indian and this was the first time working in the UK. They would stand and squat on the seats.
Even signage was ignored!
Lt_Muffintoes@reddit
Consider that someone who shits in a bin probably doesn't have great hand hygiene.
I would be detol-ing the life out of that piano.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
Erm. Yes…
hypertyper85@reddit
Remove the bin when the kid comes over
Death_Binge@reddit
WELL IT WAS ONE AH YAS.
KarenTWilliams@reddit
Remove the bin from the bathroom before lessons and provide a step so small kids can reach the loo?
SHalls17@reddit
Take them to the bin when they come to collect their child and do what I do with my daschund when he’s been naughty…point at it whilst making eye contact and say “what is that!” Repeatedly.
si0155@reddit
Remove the bin and put "shit" emoji on the back of the lid with an arrow pointing down.
Poo_Poo_La_Foo@reddit
The phrase "non native families" makes me uncomfortable 🤔 😬
But maybe a blanket email to all students with the subject line "Who is shitting in our bin?" with a link to the Scottish DISGASTANG video.
Financial-Couple-836@reddit
I wonder if they were learning to play Cher Lloyd by Cher Lloyd on the piano and that’s why it happened
MarlaSaysSlide@reddit
We had a phantom shitter at my old workplace, they would do it ON the seat or sometimes on the floor. One day I went in the bathroom and discovered the latest crime, so I went back to my desk and emailed everyone to say it had happened again, asked whoever had shat on the floor to have a word with themselves/clear it up, and linked that video. What I didn't know was that the video I'd chosen (I just youtubed it) was some kind of jump scare thing and the "DISGUSTANG" was so loud it was distorted. Cue an entire office-sized chorus of insanely loud DISGUSTANG DISGUSTANG DISGUSTANG spreading like a mexican wave
Poo_Poo_La_Foo@reddit
Omg 😲 😱
And what did we learn? Never trust YouTube (and watch clips through before forwarding...)
TheColdWind@reddit
I worked in a factory in Providence RI with a bathroom sign telling people to stop putting used tp in the waste basket. Some of the folks working there were from places where it was a common practice due to inadequate plumbing. This is NOT that.
Gammabrunta@reddit
Are you sure it's not just the dirty tissues? I know a few countries you would put the dirty tissues in a bin instead of flushing.
examingmisadventures@reddit
There was a kid taking piano Whose bog use was a bit of a faux, In the bin he would poo Instead of the loo Flushing didn’t really work though.
smd1815@reddit
I****n?
CrazyQuiltCat@reddit
“Sorry we are too busy to keep the current schedule of students. After next week, you’ll need to find another teacher. We apologize for the short notice.”
Or just say you don’t take students until they are fully potty trained. That you look forward to teaching the child next year.
jryeaman@reddit
Your not the only one we use to have instructions on the back of the cubicle doors at an old job .
https://imgur.com/a/xKl8eia
ManicPixiRiotGrrrl@reddit
what kinda person is flushing a plastic cup down the toilet?
wildcharmander1992@reddit
Send as a typed up letter.
STOP what you're doing as this email involves YOUR CHILD.
If you would like your child to be great at his instrument FROM being SHIT at it, he needs to be IN lessons promptly each day. If you are ever running late call as we will always be IN OUR home.
If this doesn't concern you feel free to recycle this letter in your BIN
before you do please re read but just the words in full caps.
Regards
Amanita117@reddit
“Non native” sounds racist AF
chianj@reddit
Make sure there's no bin in the bathroom. Problem solved
Gradam_@reddit
As some children don't seem to know what a toilet is we have implemented a new rule... "If your kid shits in it, you buy it"
HaggardHousewife@reddit
Some people are raised in places with shite plumbing and use the bin for their toilet tissue and even poo. If you explain it to the child, I am sure it'll be sorted.
lmcdbc@reddit
Remove the bin.
Ferrari288GTO_@reddit
I've been weighing up the pro and cons of starting private tuition and now I have a new entry for the cons list..
Fit_General7058@reddit
Wtf are things coming to that people aren't teaching their kids to shit in the toilet, wipe properly, flush and wash their fucking hands.
Email all parents.
Tell them what's been happing and ask them to make sure their children go to the toilet Before they leave to attend their lesson.
It will allow for uninterrupted teaching and practise as well as remove the health hazard of having some defeating into their bathroom bin.
TroublesomeFox@reddit
Im wondering if it's cultural? I've been to places where you can't flush anything other than liquid or it will fuck up the pipes. Toilet paper etc were supposed to go in a bin.
If it were me I'd find out where this kids from and write an email in the most common language spoken from there explaining that the bin is for sanitary waste only and that tissue and bodily waste goes into the toilet.
Alternatively, take the bin away and see what happens.
cabinetsnotnow@reddit
At my last job in a physician's office we had patients poop in our bathroom bin. We had NO idea why this kept happening. The patients were children so we assumed it was just kids being weird. Then one day we realized that our Haitian patients were the culprits. I guess in Haiti it's common to do this because of the plumbing systems.
LordSwright@reddit
But there's no toilet paper, kids straight shitting in the bin and I assume not wiping or putting toilet paper In the toilet he's got it backwards
TroublesomeFox@reddit
In alot of places it's quite common to NOT use toilet paper, they use water and soap to clean and IF tissue is used it's used for drying.
maelie@reddit
Yeah I think it being cultural is surely the most likely.
williamshatnersbeast@reddit
DotCottonsHandbag@reddit
Alright calm down, Harvey Denton…
SnuplinD@reddit
I had piano lessons for years and I'm sure my parents paid by the hour.
They've been livid if they discovered that I was regularly taking time out of my scales and arpeggios to curl one out whilst the teacher was still on the clock
Just speak to the kid, if they're old enough to play the piano they're old enough to understand 'shit in the toilet not the bin plz, thanks'
oh_no3000@reddit
Pricing revision. Poop in bin surcharage £100
DotCottonsHandbag@reddit
“You shit on floor? €50 fine!”
Enjoyingmydays@reddit
I wonder what the kid would do if there was no bin in the bathroom🤔
OlTommyBombadil@reddit
You need help telling a kid’s parents that their kid is shitting in the bin? I refuse to believe that you need help with that.
WishItWasFridayToday@reddit
Dont leave the child alone in the room.
rejectedbyReddit666@reddit
Rub his face in it and/ or whack him with a rolled up newspaper
billbixbyakahulk@reddit
Make a card:
Write:
"Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we?
We all know that people are the same whereever you go
Even in the bin, I got from IKEA
By the side of my piano, keyboard, oh Lord, why does he?
Effelumps@reddit
It's one o' clock on a Saturday,
The regular student walks in
He sit's and he's shitting next to me
In to my Ikea bin
He says 'bossmang can you play me a melody
I'm not really sure how it goes
But it's bad and it's sweet and I knew I'd complete'
As we sat there holding our nose.
Put up with this pong, you're the piano man
Put up with this pong tonight.
You'll get a new bin on the morrow
And then you'll be feeling alright.
newtonbase@reddit
Liner in bin. Give it to child to take home.
GarethGore@reddit
if this is your idea of a party bag I hope I am not invited to a party at your house, its a shit gift ayyy
DoIKnowYouHuman@reddit
Like a party bag? Should probably chuck a lolly and cheap clockwork toy and slice of cake in too
wrighty2009@reddit
Don't forget the annoying plastic whistle!
DoIKnowYouHuman@reddit
OR A KAZOO!!!
Why do I feel like I’ve screamed that before
Enriched_Wisp@reddit
the child might actually be scared to go into the loo room. It's a real possibility.
Icy-Pomegranate24@reddit
Is taking away the garbage can an option, at least while the student is there? Maybe talk directly to the kid, and be like "Hey, buddy, if ya gotta go, you go here" and show em the toilet.
Verbenaplant@reddit
Deffo show the kids the loo and make Sure they know they are welcome to it anytime,e
dommiichan@reddit
in the immortal words of the Inbetweeners movie: "Fifty euros fine each time!"
alternativeblood96@reddit
Im just letting you, I am not the most liberal of people. I am thoroughly enjoying reading these comments.
Man_in_the_uk@reddit
You can't teach music from home FFS.
Smooth-Purchase1175@reddit
I would say get another bin and make up a quick image in Paint or PowerPoint of a toilet covered by a big, fat red prohibition (circle-slash) symbol, print it out and then stick it on the bin itself. That might just give them the hint.
MMLFC16@reddit
Daily Mail headline tomorrow: IMMIGRANTS POOING IN BINS AND ITS STARMERS FAULT.
SensibleChapess@reddit
You only have your wife's word that it's the new kid.
Just saying...
Mean_Lengthiness_852@reddit
Perhaps the child still needs the potty? Or the smaller seat that sits on the seat? Not big enough or confident to sit on the big toilet.
scrotalsac69@reddit
Put a bin with the bottom cut out over the toilet. Problem solved
Beer-Milkshakes@reddit
Maybe it's an anxiety thing. Maybe shitting in a bin gives them a sense of control.
Significant-Gene9639@reddit
I am CRACKING. UP.
SensibleChapess@reddit
Cheeky!
jizzyjugsjohnson@reddit
Helps them keep a lid on things
alltorque1982@reddit
Bin there, done shat
v60qf@reddit
Hahaha actually laughed out loud which is rare. Well done.
SaltShakerXL@reddit
Get a sign that says “We don’t throw rubbish in your toilet. Please don’t shit in our bin.”
rev-fr-john@reddit
Draw a picture of a bin, add an image of a person shitting in the bin, add a big red cross across the image, frame it and hang it in the relevant room
bartread@reddit
You just have to play it with a straight bat:
Dear Marjorie,
Unfortunately I'm writing to you because we need to discuss a difficult subject: your son is defecating in our bathroom bin rather than in the toilet.
This obviously isn't acceptable behaviour so would you be kind enough to speak to him about this and ask him not to do it again in future, please. Let's take 5 minutes ourselves to discuss the next time you drop him off for a lesson as well.
Many thanks,
Angelina the Piano Teacher
Do not send a "dear parents" email to everyone. Just send a personalised email, as above, to the parent(s) of the child causing the issue.
Don't overthink it, and don't dance around the problem: just play it straight, like I've said.
When the parents bring the kid over for their next lesson, reiterate that the behaviour is unacceptable, and outline what the consequences will be if it continues (e.g., the kid won't be able to have lessons with you going forward, or whatever you decide is appropriate).
blackleydynamo@reddit
I'm sure this used to be a song;
Oh you can't have a shit in our dustbin, our dustbin, our dustbin No you can't have a shit in our dustbin, our dustbin's full.
Wally365@reddit
In some countries, you cannot throw the toilet paper into the toilet. You throw the used toilet paper into the bin. It is possible, that you might have to teach his child how to use a bathroom in the United States.
Leader_Bee@reddit
They're paying for piano lessons, they arent going to buy them a transatlantic ticket each time they want to take a shit.
Monkeytennis01@reddit
This is the best post I’ve seen on Reddit for a while 🤣
chuill@reddit
Remove the bin when they come for a lesson?
QOTAPOTA@reddit
Babe, there’s a turd in the sink! Was it you?
Ahimsa--@reddit
Hilarious
newtonbase@reddit
Not this time
ShitBritGit@reddit
Waffle stomp.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
Could end up worse.
Stunning_Vegetable17@reddit
It's time to write a lovely piano piece with a toilet etiquette sing-a-long
kevkevverson@reddit
Really good parenthesis usage
Jazzlike_Dust_4244@reddit
Maybe put up a picture sign in the bathroom of how to use the loo and like a poo and bin with a red line through or something, lol. I know it sounds daft, but that's what they do at the universities for foreign students as they have different types of toilets/customs about what you can and can't flush, etc.
crickety-crack@reddit
I had a girlfriend from Greece and she told me she found it odd putting toilet paper down the toilet when she first moved over here because over there, they put it in a wastepaper bin?
Is it one of those type ones? Maybe a simple sign encouraging the use of toilet roll going inside the toilet, along with everything else :')
jasilucy@reddit
You need this picture that they have in Cyprus airport I spotted about a decade ago
sambones6@reddit
Might have to take him for a trip to the farm...
AmbitiousSpread9061@reddit
Remove the bin for the bathroom
Paradiddles123@reddit
I mean I had a family friend that was a primary school teacher and her cleaner kept going into the downstairs loo and finding that her 6 year old was pissing and shitting in the bin. She taught children that age and she really didn’t think to check her kids used the loo properly. They’d go in, come out and she’d take their word for it that they’d washed their hands. No checking their hands we damp or timing the sound of the tap running. No wonder the kids kept getting worns. No partnering and they were feral.
jengaduk@reddit
I really hope someone does a BORU! Keep us updated OP, I'm here for this shit!!
Nandor1262@reddit
Did you get a picture of this turd? I’d send the picture to the parents of the child and say
“Hi Mr & Mrs PooBin
Whilst we love having PooBin over for music lessons today we have had an unfortunate situation where PooBin seems to have dedicated in a bin in our house. This has results in us disposing of the bin in question, we’d like to avoid a repeat of this incident so please can you have a word with PooBin about their behaviour.
I hope you understand that this was a difficult email for us to send and providing this incident isn’t repeated it will not affect our commitment to teaching PooBin music.
Many thanks, Binless”
Then if it happens again just let them know you can’t continue to teach their children.
I would suggest putting up a laminated sheet explaining what goes in the toilet up in your bathroom for when the kids come over.
1113975722@reddit
I am absolutely wheezing after reading this😂
Original_Bad_3416@reddit
PooBin- that’s hilarious
thisaccountisironic@reddit
Poobin actually sounds like it could be a legit Indian name 🤣
mmmkarmabacon@reddit
Why send an email to anyone?
Erizohedgehog@reddit
I’d just sack off giving lessons to the sneaky bin pooer
NoVermicelli3192@reddit
Talk to them not email. Be nice.
Unhappy-Equipment-64@reddit
would not be able to keep a straight face
PaddyPenguin@reddit
I don't understand - surely it's quite easy for your wife to work out who the culprit is and explain (or show them if necessary) how to use the toilet?
Unless of course this is all an elaborate ruse by your wife and she is actually the culprit, in which case you might have a bigger issue to deal with...
Remarkable-Wash-7798@reddit
Pictures speak a 1000 words
MobiusNaked@reddit
The ebony goes in the ivory
Ginandor58@reddit
Oh my God, please stop!!! I've got a sore jaw laughing at this post and the replies. It's a comedy classic!!!!
Awkward-Loquat2228@reddit
I tell you what I'd do Man. Two chicks at the same time.
No-Ingenuity1475@reddit
Was it a Hållbar?
McLeod3577@reddit
Take the bin away and hope for the best?
PerfectCover1414@reddit
Maybe they keep hitting the bum notes?
sophie_shadow@reddit
PLEASE ask ChatGPT and then tell us what it says
CPeeB@reddit
Don’t be rash. In some cultures, burping after a meal is regarded as complimentary. Maybe shitting in your bin is exactly this. If they run shitty finger marks down your walls and through your petunias, then have a chat with them.
vmeldrew2001@reddit
Old memory from the chris moyles show that was broadcast from Germany during the world cup years ago: German toilets have a ledge that you poo on and then use toilet paper to transfer the poo to the bin. Or I totally misunderstood what was being said!
Poo_Poo_La_Foo@reddit
In eaastern europe the poo shelf does still live.
Nandor1262@reddit
Having been to Germany I can confidently say the toilets were the same as ours 😂
durkheim98@reddit
That's true in public places like bars and restaurants. Saw it a few times in peoples houses though.
Realistic-River-1941@reddit
Older German toilets do indeed have an inspection shelf so you can study it before flushing.
Kuddkungen@reddit
They did occasionally have that ledge (saw one on a visit in the early 90s), but it was so you could inspect your poo (to catch early signs of various illnesses) before you flushed it.
officialslacker@reddit
Stick this on your bin, or remove it altogether
Toastinho@reddit
I think a crudely drawn diagram with a big red x next to the bin and a big green tick next to the toilet.
officialslacker@reddit
Add this to your bin
Inoffensive_Comments@reddit
“We’ve not yet taught the students the G Shat Minor chord….”
CheesecakeExpress453@reddit
I used to work in a theatre and actors used to go to the toilet specifically to poo in the bins RIGHT NEXT TO THE TOILET. So if it helps, it may not be a child thing and more a cultural thing. Hope you find a solution because we didn't!
uberdog50@reddit
Dear Parents, our sincere apologies, but our loo is out of order for the foreseeable future. Thank you for your understanding!
Imaginary_Stuff_1233@reddit
Remove the bin when they are there, no need for an email.
bellabanjsk@reddit
Hello! In some parts of third world countries the plumbing system can’t actually handle No.2s so it’s customary to put faeces in the bin. I know this sounds disgusting but the blocked plumbing of a third world toilet is definitely worse.
Maybe:
“Dear Parents,
It has recently been brought to our attention that some of our students may be unaware of the typical customs regarding use of toilet-usage in this country. We would appreciate all parents to whom this might apply speaking with their children to provide guidance on proper etiquette, and reminding them not to use the waste paper bin beside the toilet for anything except facial tissues and small items of rubbish.
Thank you so much!”
There. Fixed it for ya.
dmmeurpotatoes@reddit
"Dear Parents, Kid is progressing nicely in lessons and seems to be enjoying (piece of music). Please let him know that body waste (wee and poo) and toilet paper go into the toilet and are flushed away, and bins are for sanitary waste (wet wipes etc).
Hope that this resolves his confusion and we won't have to address this again.
Many thanks,
Redditor".
The kindest thing is to address it directly, do it in writing so that any confusion or language barrier problems can be looked up by the parents at their convenience, and then drop it unless it's a problem again.
Feggy@reddit
Subject: Bathroom Etiquette - A Flushing Concern 🚽
Dear [Parent's Name],
I hope you are all doing well and enjoying some harmonious moments with Kevin’s music practice! 🎶 I wanted to share a little chuckle and address a minor issue we've encountered during our lessons.
It appears that Kevin has been "missing the mark" in the bathroom, opting to use the bin for their, ahem, waste instead of the toilet. While I'm sure this is just a funny misunderstanding, I think it's time for us to orchestrate a "toilet training duet."
Could you kindly have a chat with Kevin about using the toilet for its intended purpose? It would help ensure a more comfortable and hygienic environment for everyone. After all, we wouldn't want this to become a recurring "movement"! 😂
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. Let’s keep the humour flowing and the music playing!
Best regards,
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Pooperintendent 💩🎵
RestaurantAntique497@reddit
I wouldn't even send an email out to everyone if you know who it is. Just directly tell them you're not going to give that child lessons because of their behaviour.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Little children frequently do things they know they shouldn't. Mine once had an accident at an after school class when little, she was fine at home and at school because she knew the toilets and what to do and could call for help if needed.
RestaurantAntique497@reddit
If it keeps happening it's not an accident
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Oh I'm not saying this is an accident. But they also probably know they shouldn't do it and still do, almost certainly not out of malicious intent, but some kind of anxiety or phobia.
DefinitelyNotEmu@reddit
/r/angryupvote
Electrical-Injury-23@reddit
No words. Have a massive curry, then shit in their bin.
seven-cents@reddit
"non native". It's actually quite conceivable that a child from a foreign country has never encountered or been taught to use "western" toilets.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
If they're doing piano lessons hardly.
salt_flowers@reddit
Had some people stay with us from Belarus in the 90s and we were told to remove waste bins to avoid this. This has just reminded me of that time. Thanks.
hyperskeletor@reddit
Some cultures do not use western toilets, often a hole and a water running source, they may not know what to do with a western loo and see the bin as a easier way to go.
I would ask the child if they are ok using a western toilet, then say please we only have wee and poo in the loo. Then talk to the parents and explain upfront that their little shit has taken little shits in your bin and is not using your western loo.
Then I would bill them for the new bins and through embarrassment they will likely give you cash so triple the cost.
Next I would just carry on knowing that the next time you have already handled worse.
Asena89@reddit
Just remove the bin from the vicinity. Leave them no choice but to use the toilet.
algypan@reddit
At least they're not shitting in the biscuit tin, I guess
Mongoose-Relevant@reddit
How old is the student you think is the culprit?
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Yeah the response isn't the same for a 4 you old as a 14 year old.
Derries_bluestack@reddit
What do you mean by non-native?
LNGBandit77@reddit
From Manchester presumably
Dutch_Calhoun@reddit
Clearly they're Saxons.
jebediah1800@reddit
Dear Guardian-reading commenters: You prolly want to exhibit your liberal credentials on this post which is laudable, and thus you'd prefer it to be widely and loudly acknowledged hereabouts that you have better feelings than the rest of us. However, it shouldn't be beyond your intellectual capacity or educational achievement to intuit that 'non-native' could - on balance - actually mean 'not from this country', most likely by birth or culture. Get over yourselves, you liberal and poisonous twots, and stop waving your superiority around here.
Equivalent_Parking_8@reddit
You shit in my bin you owe me 50 euros
MitchA-J@reddit
Today children, we are learning a new piece of music, after me please “if you shit in my bin, clap you hands”
PKblaze@reddit
"non-native family"
Bruh.
box_frenzy@reddit
Yeah that stuck out at me too. So fucking weird.
HeverAfter@reddit
Not really. Some cultures aren't used to western toilets. Source: have dealt with Indian coworkers who had to be taught how to use a toilet properly
durkheim98@reddit
Yeah unfortunately had that experience with a housemate. Same with refrigerating food.
maelie@reddit
That's absolutely true but it's the wording that jars a bit.
Talinia@reddit
It's weirdly worded, but there are places in the world with very different toilet habits to us. From squating, not flushing paper, using bidets etc. It's just a way of suggesting there's potential for it to just be something kinda lost in translation as opposed to not toilet trained
Nandor1262@reddit
How’s it a weird point? Just shows that it requires more tact because the parents might not understand the situation
TheNinjaPixie@reddit
I wonder what would happen if you totally removed any bin?!
BugPsychological4836@reddit
theyd shit on the floor
Eddie_Honda420@reddit
This is a job for chatgpt . Post the results lol
testfjfj@reddit
ChatGPT can be good for things like this. You can tell it to edit it until you're happy with it.
This is what I got:
Subject: Request About Bathroom Use
Dear [Parent's Name],
I hope you are well.
I am writing to kindly ask for your help with something regarding the bathroom during piano lessons. We have noticed that some students have been putting poo in the small bin next to the toilet. This bin is only for non-paper items, like empty cardboard tubes, and is not meant for this.
Could you please remind your child to use the toilet for all bathroom needs, and to use toilet paper if necessary? We want to keep the bathroom clean and comfortable for everyone.
Thank you very much for your understanding and cooperation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards,
[Your Name]
[Your Wife’s Name]
[Your Contact Info]
Kellyjackson88@reddit
Shit in the bin yourself before he goes to the toilet. UNO reverse him.
foxhill_matt@reddit
new post to r/hypotheticalsituation 'how much would they need to pay for lessons so that you only write them a letter instead of telling them and their kid to fuck off'
_disasterplan@reddit
Non-native? Cheers Nigel.
Naughty-Stepper@reddit
Why would you email???? Surely a discrete convo would surface. Without making a drama out of it, Just to let you know…….. would appreciate you having a word re using the bog as intended. Is it me but has not talking to people taken over human interaction?
MilkJiggers88@reddit
Dear madam. Tell ya kid to stop shitting in the bin or I’ll pack the shit in the little terrors bag and send the little terrors back home
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
I’d bet money on a kid with an irrational fear that something (snake, alligator, frog,etc) will come up out of the toilet and bite them.
TroublesomeFox@reddit
To be fair, depending on where the kids from that's a very real and rational fear.
Sensitive-Ad-7475@reddit
Remove bin?!
rdazza@reddit
Could you just send something to all parents so you aren’t just singling that kid out saying something like only rubbish or sanitary products to be placed in the bin? Or just take the bin out of the toilet when that kid comes over. You might end up playing hunt the poo though actually if he puts it somewhere else 😂
HeverAfter@reddit
No just send directly to the parents involved. It needs a direct conversation. Parents deal with their children's poo so they should be able to have the conversation.
peobarionboy@reddit
How have you not narrowed this down, you say this keeps happening, why have you not gone into the bathroom after every kid and found this out.. ??
Breadcrumbsandbows@reddit
They know who the shitter is, just unsure how to address the repeated shitting
AnUdderDay@reddit
"While I enjoy teaching your child, please advise him to move his bowels at home before his lesson, or if he must use my loo, to use the toilet itself and NOT THE FUCKING BIN"
DrakeManley@reddit
* A place I used to work at had these signs in all the toilets.
We bought toilet seats in bulk because we had to replace so many each week, these signs reduced the amount of toilets seats broken to less than 1 a month
soopertyke@reddit
Hey parent. Your sprog took a dump in the bin rather than the available shutters. You owe me five quid, an apology and some therapy
plant-cell-sandwich@reddit
Have you spoken to the child in question?
ConstantPurpose2419@reddit
How old is the child? Because honestly I’m concerned for them.
Evening-Web-3038@reddit
You shit in the bin, 50 euro fine. Each time.
MermaidPigeon@reddit
Brilliant
BulkyAccident@reddit
"Non native" is a little bit unneccessary, kids from all walks of life do weird nonsense like this without thinking about the consequences. They might be terrified of using a stranger's loo, for whatever reason.
Just write a polite email out explaining the situation and saying you'll have to cease lessons if it continues.
English_Joe@reddit (OP)
But they are and it’s custom in some countries.
MunkeeseeMonkeydoo@reddit
Now then shitty arse, go the toilet before we start.
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