“Moscow and region hit by 'massive' drone attack, Russian officials say”

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Asurapath9@reddit

All these people saying good, I'm happy Ukraine is alive and kicking back, but not at all about any civilians being caught in the crossfire. That security guard may be the one death because Ukraine didn't launch in attack with the intention of killing anyone, but this still depresses me.

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Fecal-Facts@reddit

Russia bombed a children's cancer ward in Ukraine.

Everyone in Russia is fair game.

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MongoGrapefoot@reddit

By that logic, everyone in the US is fair game to a large portion of planet Earth when it comes to retaliation. That sword cuts both ways.

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Fecal-Facts@reddit

The fact is Russia attacked Ukraine and is barbaric raping women and Children they have no rules and when are dealing with a abomination like that.

It's war and Ukraine has been told they have to fight with a hand behind their back while Russia gets to do whatever they want minus dropping a nuke.

If the so called good citizens of Russia haven't revolted yet then they haven't experienced a fraction of what Ukraine has.

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ArcticHuntsman@reddit

barbaric raping women and children

This is just war. Every country at war has monsters like this, US included.

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ambidextr_us@reddit

Look at how many peaceful protesters (/s) were chanting free palestine across the entire USA, basically chanting to protect the rights of terrorists who would easily kill most of the Americans protesting for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

This comes to mind first.

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ArcticHuntsman@reddit

this is the same shit as every other conflict the US gets involved in. You've just equated all Palestinians with terrorists, just as for the last two decades all arabs were equated with terrorists. You make out Palestinians as all monsters that just kill and rape.

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Full-Pollution-4786@reddit

I guess we should have revolted in favour of so called "peace loving" west that doesn't spend a single day without dehumanizing regular russians. Let's both be honest, if that was to happen, you would just slaughter us indiscriminately.

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Fabulous-Dig7583@reddit

Username checks out

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ilikehouses@reddit

Nah man take a look at the other comments this is clearly a 100% good thing with zero downside

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

Yeah my concern is that Ukraine hasn’t claimed this and russia is still attacking Ukraine overnight too. Every possibility it’s a false flag to gain sympathy and fabricate a mandate. And even if it isn’t all russia has to do to make every Russian safe is go back to Russia.

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

my concern is that Ukraine hasn’t claimed this and russia is still attacking Ukraine overnight too. Every possibility it’s a false flag to gain sympathy and fabricate a mandate. All Russia hasn’t claimed this to do is go back to Russia and all Russians would be safe.

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sravll@reddit

Did they really, or is this going to be Russias excuse to do something even more awful?

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MentionWeird7065@reddit

Well Ukraine just agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. Knowing Trump, if Russia says no, he might go full throttle for Ukraine because of the ego that desires a nobel peace prize and admiration.

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Enzo-Unversed@reddit

Ukraine has a long history of killing civilians since the Donbass War.

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KimboKneeSlice@reddit

Them saying it's a warehouse of "children's toys" tells you everything you need to know

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

Yeah my concern is that Ukraine hasn’t claimed this and russia is still attacking Ukraine overnight too. Every possibility it’s a false flag to gain sympathy and fabricate a mandate

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Ok-Somewhere9814@reddit

What do you mean by claiming it? It’s not a terrorist attack to claim it.

Ukrainian news reported hitting one of the oil depots in Moscow region.

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

Unless the Ukrainian government says the did something I wouldn’t suggest that they did

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Ok-Somewhere9814@reddit

Do they always say: we attacked Russia with 300+ drones last night

It’s not something that happens daily, it’s a war, so business as usual for both sides

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

Yea they very often give statements and I hadnt seen any about this. An offical did give a statement this afternoon so it now passes the sniff test

“As Kyiv-Washington talks continue in Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian MP Oleksiy Goncharenko says the overnight strikes on Moscow shows the country is capable of carrying out a “very serious” attack on Russia. Speaking to the BBC from Kyiv, he says “this is a message that we have, at least, cards” (an apparent reference to Donald Trump recently saying he believes Russia has “the cards” in any peace talks).”

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Ok-Somewhere9814@reddit

That makes sense! It was one of their biggest attacks too.

With Kursk situation worsening, it only makes sense to try and get more leverage (“cards”)

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djquu@reddit

Russia doesn't need any false flags or mandates, they've done horrible shit for 3 years now.

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

I meant as they are about to sit in the negotiations today

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djquu@reddit

Russia has over the last 24h caused massive civilian damages and casualties in Ukraine, fuck their high horse if they dare attempt any of that. The negotiations are doomed to completely fail anyway, Russia has no intention to stop.

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Ebella2323@reddit

Combine that with Ukraine’s “cyber attack” on X yesterday, and you have 2 false flags for the 2 countries that want to take Ukraine’s rare earth minerals!

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Wise-Description-492@reddit

Yeah this is it. Same with the "attack" on x.

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2beHero@reddit

They have never needed an excuse, they've been awful ever since the first house was built on the swamp called Moscow

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Odd_Blood5625@reddit

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AngryAccountant31@reddit

Another 35 drones did not carry a payload? Did they forget to attach the bombs?

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Agreeable_Stable8906@reddit

F u c k the orcs.

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Enzo-Unversed@reddit

But I was told only the military is called orcs? Not civilians? Nice mask off bud. I hope you seethe seeing the Banderite regime in Ukraine fall.

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

They are cunts but dehumanising them possibly isn’t helpful

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2beHero@reddit

They have dehumanised themselves by acting like orcs. Do not forget Bucha, Irpin and countless other places where they massacred civilians trying to flee; do not forget videos of them shooting surrendering Ukrainian soldiers.

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Apprehensive_Fig8615@reddit

Bucha was a false flag. Do you want to see a real Bucha? Check videos from Syria. There are no shortage of them. Show us one video from Bucha. One.

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ChallengingBullfrog8@reddit

Ukraine is conscripting old men to go fight and die a losing war…

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No_Entertainer_8404@reddit

If Ukraine is fighting a losing war, why is Putin the one begging for help to end it early? Don't forget to check your zpropaganda decoder ring for the answer.

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2beHero@reddit

Fucking colour me surprised, its as they are fighting off a russian invasion! They are far from losing it though.

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-TheDream@reddit

They already did that to themselves.

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mishkafishy@reddit

they are civilians you weirdo

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Shoddy-Opportunity55@reddit

Good! Hopefully lots of casualties

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DecrimIowa@reddit

These drone attacks on refineries and other civilian targets are expensive and annoying but I don't think they do much to change the overall strategic picture of the conflict.

The fact that this is happening as Ukraine and Russia meet with the US in Riyadh seems significant too- it could be read a couple different ways.
Ukraine attempting to demonstrate its UAV abilities- saying "okay now the gloves are off?"
Hardline nationalist elements of Zelensky's administration deliberately torpedoing discussions?
NATO trying to provoke Russia into doing something stupid?
One or more of the above? Something else?

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

Putin false flagging to cry poor in the negotiations?

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Tradtrade@reddit (OP)

No

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