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This Week in GNOME #190: Cross Platform

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murlakatamenka@reddit

> Iverson Briones *(any)* says Does it mean Iverson Briones is fine with any pronouns used?
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

Who cares about pronouns and genitals in this context?
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Nereithp@reddit

> Who cares about pronouns Clearly the person you are responding to as well as OP, whose pronouns are clearly displayed as (any) > and genitals Nobody around here has mentioned genitals except for you.
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

My question was not as literal as you understood it. Or did you understand what I'm saying, but chose to reply this way anyway?
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Nereithp@reddit

> My question was not as literal as you understood it If you meant it in a non-literal way, it is still an incredibly weird thing to try and police on a public forum. The person you responded took interest in something written within the linked article and chose to inquire about it. Just because the question isn't about GNOME software specifically, doesn't mean they cannot ask the question. Also, even still, randomly bringing up "genitals" just because someone mentioned pronouns is fucking weird lol.
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

I have to say that I do not feel adressed by your reply at all. I have no idea why you think that I'm policing anyone, or that people can't be interested and comment about whatever they want.
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Nereithp@reddit

Then feel free to explain your own personal interpretation of your original comment, because I have no clue what you were trying to do then 👍
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

So you did not understand what I was saying. I was openly questioning the relevance of pronouns in this context, while at the same time saying that I do not find it to be relevant.
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Nereithp@reddit

> I was openly questioning the relevance of pronouns in this context I hope you shall find the answers you seek then! > while at the same time saying that I do not find it to be relevant Calling out things as not relevant fits the definition of policing a discussion.
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

> Calling out things as not relevant fits the definition of policing (aka regulating) a discussion. Not for me. Is it that way for you - meaning when you question something?
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Nereithp@reddit

If you are effectively saying "I do not think this is relevant to the discussion", then you are essentially communicating to the person you are addressing that they should do one of the following: - shouldn't brought that up - should come up with a justification as to why this *is* relevant to the current discussion Either way, I personally think either of the above fits the commonly understood definition of policing/regulating a discussion.
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

Both points are not true for me. Hell would freeze over before I would limit the ability of others to express themselves. I can question it, I can even be against it, but that does not mean that I want or would actively silence other people.
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ThomasterXXL@reddit

Well, welcome to the internet. The thoughts and feelings with which something is written will likely not carry over in writing, causing the text to be interpreted and understood according to each reader's own experience and worldview, inevitably leading to an emotionally charged chain reaction of people writing past each other without anyone having changed in any meaningful way over the course of this waste of human life... ... But yeah, "Who cares"-ing something is definitely tone-policing to shut down conversation by just projecting one's subjective view onto everyone else. If you really didn't care, then why write that ("Who cares about pronouns and genitals in this context?") in the first place? It also strongly implies allegiance to certain far right ideologies (whether intended or not) that are very unpopular here.
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Lawnmover_Man@reddit

Yeah, I could have worded that better. I guess there are many people who would say that as a form of policing, but... that's not who I am. I guess I'll never really accomodate to the fact that human brains are trying to conserve energy by putting everything in boxes. I could do more to not end up in the wrong box, but to be honest, I'd love if others would also try to do a bit more.
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Tywele@reddit

The relevance of pronouns in this context is so that you know who the developer behind something is. Pronouns are an important part to someones identity. Especially if they differ from the norm IMO.
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KrazyKirby99999@reddit

It may be discouraged or considered redundant in some cultures, but others find it extremely important to declare.
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IverCoder@reddit (OP)

Iverson Briones here. Yes.
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motang@reddit

So will Gtk apps use native window controls on KDE as well?
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LvS@reddit

Yes, assuming KDE is MacOS.
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gilbertoalbino@reddit

Love Gnome.
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DManeOne@reddit

Bless GNOME, without it linux desktop would be still in the 90s
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yo_99@reddit

Who would reinvent the wheel without them?
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DManeOne@reddit

That's not a bad analogy. They are making wheels while other DMs try to roll on cubes and triangles but those ways are a bit more bumpier ( for example another popular DM is just crashing at it's own loading animation and every minor task randomly since it is being around ). GNOME just works and works well without being an overcomplicated spaghetti monster bleeding from thousands of wounds or an oversimplified 800key combo terminal based one that drops you back in the 80s UX wise
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yo_99@reddit

Personally I prefer XFCE: it isn't glitchy, isn't laggy, and is configurable and usable instead of copying notions from touchpad interfaces. There is some strange decisions, but thankfully I so far was able to mitigate them.
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DManeOne@reddit

That is a great option as well in my opponion
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kill-the-maFIA@reddit

I'd rather have a DE that has some bollocks and makes a modern and efficient workflow rather than "well Microsoft made a UX in the 90s that we will copy, because people will be angry if it's different". If you really want a Windows UX, you can trivially recreate it in Gnome.
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DManeOne@reddit

Well it would be awesome to try one DM that has the abilities you described but unfortunately it seems we will have to wait for one until it is getting researched developed and mautred. There are solutions for very special use cases but you cannot beat GNOME nowadays in stability and providing a "good for every use case" UX. I think it is not the difference that makes people angry but incompetence of handling simple tasks and ruining your work hours by having to deal with crashes and hipster changes like mac does by placing window controls to the other side( it is not different just altered by mirroring ). There are great ideas out there but unfortunately, the execution is not that great.
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NakamericaIsANoob@reddit

😂
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NakamericaIsANoob@reddit

I do not see the point of Refine. Is it more of a learning project rather than meeting a particular need?
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Nereithp@reddit

Refine and Pins seem like fantastic replacements for their older counterparts, definitely adding those to my app list.
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DankeBrutus@reddit

That Foresight shell extension is also really neat.
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