quick update from new expat in singapore
Posted by pretendingtoworkhaha@reddit | expats | View on Reddit | 19 comments
hiya,
i thought i’d come back here and give this community a quick update.
3 weeks ago, i moved to singapore, and the day i landed, i was curled up on the floor, fully foetal, bawling my eyes out wondering what the hell i was doing here, wanting to instantly go back home, just crying non-stop. to distract myself and truly, as a last resort to not feel so bloody alone, i posted here — and the comments i received were overwhelmingly kind and supportive. thank you so so so so much to everyone who reached out with a kind word — it truly means so much to hear something encouraging, something kind when you’re down. it really helped knowing i wasn’t alone in feeling the way i did, that other expats, especially ones emigrating alone, felt this way initially too — so if you’re one of them, please know that you’re not alone.
now, onto the update. it’s been three weeks, i’ve moved into a house, have largely settled in. new job is interesting. it definitely got MUCHHHH better than day 1. every day it gets better but then some days i still find myself wondering wtf am i doing here, i wanna go back. singapore is bloody expensive and it’s not fun constantly mentally doing conversations to your home currency. also my coworkers are all singaporeans and they’ve not really made any effort to rope me into their circle — like ask me to join them for lunch etc. i have been making efforts with them though — i try talking non work talk so we can bond, but no luck. i do feel quite alone here, having zero friends in singapore. in fact, it was my birthday earlier this week and i just went about it like it was a normal day. which is fine. but i feel alone. so if anyone has any whatsapp groups etc that i can join to bond over a favourite hobby or something, id love it.
i do think it gets easier with time. i generally like the people and the food and once i have my house set up a bit more, i think im going to start exploring the country.
lots of look forward to then.
onwards.
foodncoffee@reddit
The first 6 months are the toughest. It took me just over a year to feel any sense of normalcy and routine. It took my family some time to settle, especially the kids. It was only after they made some great new friends at school that they were able to start embracing life in SG!
ShakilyEnvious@reddit
Ah yes, the classic expat experience: questioning all your life choices over overpriced coffee while trying to decode the secret handshake of the locals.
foodncoffee@reddit
The coffee is so overpriced!! But I still buy it because who can live without coffee?
pretendingtoworkhaha@reddit (OP)
hahahaha thank god this is the normal expat experience too. this really helps.
lurtz01@reddit
Update?
RedPanda888@reddit
The home currency conversion thing only gets more confusing going forward. I’m a Brit in Thailand and work with a lot of other European expats. I therefore find myself converting not only to Thai baht but also USD for the sake of conversation. The issue is, even when I come back home and speak to my British family and friends, I still convert to USD out of habit and just end up all over the place with it. But mentally, my brain has now almost fully converted to baht. Once all your budget items are in local currency it gets easier.
pretendingtoworkhaha@reddit (OP)
Wow that’s a head scratcher for sure haha. I usually just convert to my home currency to compare how expensive or inexpensive (rarely in SG) an item is and when i realise it’s at least 3X higher in SG, i start feeling like moving here was such a waste of everything — time money effort.
i absolutely love thailand. i’ve been to bangkok for work a lot of times and the city always makes me so happy. i also love that there are so many islands around that you can explore. singapore feels like a bit of a prison tbh, and the greenery can sometimes feel too sanitised. what are the living costs there like? is housing cheap?
No_Lime5241@reddit
Can you explain what this means that the greenery feels too sanitized? I’m confused by that statement yet ive heard over and over again that the island feels sanitized.
RedPanda888@reddit
Housing is cheap, taxes relatively low for income (though not as optimized on the investment side of things), food is cheap, services are cheap, hotels are cheap. But salaries are lower (generally) and tech prices and imported products are therefore disproportionately expensive. International school are also extortionate if you want a child. So it’s a balance.
Overall, love life here but mostly because I have a good job at an international company and can make it work long term due to my local wife. A lot of people struggle here for years on sketchy visas or trying to make remote working a permanent thing. I’d say…if you can land a local job here at good pay life is grand. Otherwise….long term it becomes less viable. Great country, but economically not as advanced as Singapore so career opportunities slimmer and you have to have some luck.
LineKey9756@reddit
I relate so much. I moved here during COVID and the loneliness was next-level — locked at home, no way to meet people, and it took ages before I felt like I had any community. The turning point for me was finding one recurring thing (same faces each week — for me it was a football team). That’s when SG finally started feeling like home. I’ve been building a small bootstrap hobby project for this exact problem (Meshup). If you’re curious, you can search meshup.social (or IG @meshup.app) — or DM me and I’ll send it. No pressure.
SkittyLover93@reddit
Some tips from a Singaporean (who no longer lives there):
While Singapore has an international reputation for being expensive, locals often maintain low monthly expenses. $1000 SGD per month should be more than sufficient for non-housing expenses.
pretendingtoworkhaha@reddit (OP)
Oh I do so love the hawker centres and i’ll admit that’s basically where i ate the first full week haha. but after 10-15 meals i realised the amount of oil i was consuming with each meal and how i wasn’t really consuming greens or raw fibre. i’m not a heath freak but i have noticed how i feel so much better (mentally and digestionally?) when i eat a salad versus fried rice so hawker centres don’t feel like a sustainable option. i’m experimenting with batch cooking cause i honestly don’t mind eating the same thing the entire week for now, just until i get into the rhythm of things. ooh but i really do appreciate the tip about coffee shops — i actually really like kopitiam coffee but i always thought they costed as much as food court coffee so it’s really good to know the price difference.
I can’t find these groups online to meet people. I tried joining all these facebook groups for expats in Singapore but found mostly just marketing posts there. i love reading and gardening and painting (badly) — tried exploring local libraries but they charge foreigners so much!
super markets — i’ve only honestly explored Fair Price Xtra which is the closest super mart to my place. i don’t think it’s cheap tbh, they’re basically prices i see online on like a foodpanda. is fair price cheaper than shen shiong or is it the other way round? also are there local farmer’s markets anywhere in singapore?
SkittyLover93@reddit
Life-Unit-4118@reddit
For the first six months (at least) in my new country, I’d wake up and immediately think “did I move here’l
Personal-Cover2922@reddit
Join some fitness classes with lots of other expats. Like ufit or crossfit or f45. Personally i think it is easier to make friends among other expats in SG.. not sure if you are male or female but join some FB groups that mingle and do trips together. You can dm me if you want. I used to live there
Longjumping-Elk354@reddit
Join Gone Girl Singapore on FB. Largely expats and there are often book clubs, yoga, coffees, whatever. Would also recommend you go where your hobbies are, like join a ceramics class
circle22woman@reddit
Singaporeans aren't exactly know for their warm and welcoming demeanor. They are polite, but try striking up a conversation on MRT and you'll get a surprised faced like "why are you talking to me".
Work-life balance isn't great either, so most people work long hours, then go home.
Your best bet is find other expats. They are usually much more interested in activities and meeting new people. Singaporeans (like most locals) tend to have their own friend circles from birth and are happy with that.
Entertainthethoughts@reddit
I’m glad to know you are doing better. Thank you for the update. You’ve opened up a lovely little window into your experience and the view is fine. Please continue to explore, enjoy and update.
pretendingtoworkhaha@reddit (OP)
Thank you 🥹