Is it stupid to buy a 5080?

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changen@reddit

No lol. It's not under performing. It's just power limited and expensive as hell.

If you can get one and overclock it, you can hit 4090 stock performance...with similar power consumption. The problem is that you can't buy one.

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A 1600$ Astral can hit stock 4090 performance in some games. And be within 5-10% in others...with some dumb levels of power and heat.

Most cards can hit 3200 mhz and some can hit 3300 and that will let you get into spitting distance of a stock 4090. Along with some memory OC headroom as well to help at higher res.

Is it a good idea? nope, it's kinda shit as it's not guaranteed. I personally wouldn't buy something that expensive and have no guaranteed performance, but if you got the cash and this is what you can find, then why not?

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Significant_Bar_460@reddit

But 4090 can be somewhat overclocked either. Also it has 24gb VRAM. There were times, that you could buy 4090 for MSRP (at least in my country), so similar price as 5080 Astral.

4090 and 5080 are not equals.

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changen@reddit

never did I say they are equal lol.

IF you are going to buy a 1600$ 5080, you should expect 1600$ performance levels, and you do get it, if you overclock the crap out of it as there is 20% extra headroom that Nvidia left.

4090 can also overclock, but definitely does not have the same amount of headroom.

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Significant_Bar_460@reddit

But 20% OC is not guaranteed. No 5080 is worth 1600$. Paying that kind of money and expect that maybe it will get that performance is not acceptable.

overclock if you want more performance. The core is VERY power limited.

Same here, got 4070 Super for $600 last year and I'm happy I did not listen to that "wait for 50 series" talking 😀

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tyrenanig@reddit

Definitely r/agedlikemilk

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l-KING_ARTHUR-l@reddit

Same here, I completed my 4070ti super build in fall for $1900 total. And recently looked to see what 4070ti supers are going for now because I was looking to see if a 50 series is worth it from a 40 series (its not) and now they are $1300-$1600 FOR JUST A 4070TI SUPER!

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Isord@reddit

I finally decided to get a new card just in case tariffs get bad. Turns out everything is shit now anyways. I should have just pulled the trigger around black friday yeah.

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Narrow_Chicken_69420@reddit

it's not a bad time, it feels like this because you listen to what others have to say. There are plenty of cards you can buy, and are priced very well, it just depends on you, what you can afford and what you need it for. There is a model for everyone and every need. He's just talking about 40 series being hard to buy, referring to the high end ones which are usually out of stock because not everyone can afford it, so the production is somehow limited, and the ones in stock just fly. But i see stock everywhere with these card 4070 super, 7900gre, 7800xt, 7900xt, even 4070 ti super, 4060, 4070, 7700xt, 4060 ti, 7900xtx.

You can't really find 4090, 4080 super, 50 series and some other 40 series nobody is buying

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Honestly it's been a lot better than I was expecting, especially after reading the negative reviews of the card when it came out.

On my 1660 I didn't even attempt Cyberpunk because I didn't want to ruin the game with such low graphics. I'm now playing at 1440p DLSS Quality with all high settings enabled. Have messed around with ray tracing but the trade off is too much loss in fidelity so overall I prefer it without RT on.

I half suspect that when the time comes later this year I might not be as tempted to upgrade as I originally was.

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I bought mine a few months ago for monster hunter because I was impatient my friend was saying that was stupid but now they went to buy one and said they can't find one and won't play monster hunter with me on launch 😭

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AlligatorVsBuffalo@reddit

I got my 4080S a year ago and only had to wait a couple weeks after release to get a FE at MSRP.

Turns out that was a great time to buy based on demands for GPUs right now. 4080S for $999 was a great purchase in hindsight.

For those of you who started PC gaming less than 6 years ago, it HAS always been a bad time.

Cleenred@reddit

Even at msrp the price/ performance is complete shite man

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changen@reddit

At MSRP and a vbios flash and lots of power, you are gonna hit 4090 levels of performance.

That's the "real" 5080, but Nvidia will never release it because it melts cables.

The price performance of the chip is good, you just have a risk of burning down the house since the power delivery design is shit.

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Cleenred@reddit

Nah, my 3080 was 700 bucks back in 2020 that's $850 accounting for inflation. The 5080 isn't even 50% faster and that in more than 4 years and 2 generations. That's not even taking into account that : the msrp is 1k, you literally can't buy it apart from scalpers, you can't run PhysX 32bit and on the top of it all the fucking wires have a legitimate chance to burst into flames. Garbage all around the board

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droidxl@reddit

domoboyoo@reddit

Here’s how I got mine just a few days ago. Go to B&H, join their waitlist, they will send you an email when they have stock with a link to add to cart exclusively for you.

I can now run 4k, path traced, ray reconstruction, dlss quality, no Multi Frame Gen and get 90-120 fps

In Cyberpunk? I wish :(

I have an open order still for a 5090 Suprim (for 3004€), but managed to grab a 5080 FE for 1186€. So I'll have to try first if that's enough performance for me.

Even at 1440p pathtraced and DLSS Quality it seems to be more around 60 fps based on reviews..

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sicknick08@reddit

I literally watched a video on YouTube of a guy doing exactly what you just said. Barely 60, and in the description it said i7 10th gen and 3200mts sooo

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Haschwalt2856@reddit

Its not. Its a worthy upgrade coming from a 1080.

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I don't think I got mine during the launch, I think it had already been out for a year. gif

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changen@reddit

you better have mined the shit out of it.

Only reason to buy a 3000 series card was to mine. Even at a reduced hash rate, it would have offset the inflated cost.

I bought my 3080 10GB first month of release and managed to pay for my entire system and monitor over course of it's life.

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szlash280z@reddit

I did not. I used it to upgrade my 1070. gif I don't even know how to mine.

im on a 2080 super and 1440p ultrawide, if i can get a card at msrp do i buy a 5080 and ride it until it dies or a 5070ti or similar and wait for a 5080 super?

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PicklePuffin@reddit

If you are staying at 1440p uw, I think a 5070ti is plenty. I’m on a 4070ti 1440p 21:9 and I can’t imagine upgrading unless I was going to 4k. Obviously depends on what exactly you want but any new game will run DLSS 4 quality at max settings and RT and keep it above 80 without fg, and locked at 120 with fg. Can think of hardly any exceptions to that rule except psycho RT path tracing on CP2077, and it can run that pretty handily too.

Again, depends exactly what your goals are, but a 5080 is probably overkill for 1440p. In my own humble opinion.

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FrewdWoad@reddit

>If you can get one at retail price and are coming from a 1080, I don't think it is so stupid

Coming from a 1080, a 3080 will also be a pretty decent upgrade, too, but at less than half the price.

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gigaplexian@reddit

It's still faster than a 4080 Super.

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szczszqweqwe@reddit

Barely faster, something like 10% is a bit pathetic for a new generation, saying that at MSRP it's currently not a bad deal.

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FrewdWoad@reddit

At MSRP the 5080 is 30% more expensive than the 4080 Super for about 10% more performance.

So no, not a good deal at all, but that doesn't matter anyway, since neither are in stock (at least not anywhere close to MSRP).

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sinovesting@reddit

Would love to know where you were getting $750 4080 Supers. That would be an absolute steal

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droidxl@reddit

How is 5080 30% more expensive when the msrp is the same at $999 usd?

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russsl8@reddit

Er... MSRP for MSRP for the FE is exactly the same between 4080 Super and 5080...

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changen@reddit

It's barely faster because 5080s has knee capped power limits. It can definitely hit 4090 levels of performance with people with bottom of the barrel 5080s overclocking to 3300+ mhz. Nvidia can definitely release 3200mhz models and still have stable cards but at ridiculous power limits.

The issue is that Nvidia definitely melted some cables in their own testing, so lowering stock power limits will definitely reduce the chance of cables melting once it hits mass market.

Nvidia just shifted the risk to the user. If you want the "real" 5080, you need to risk melting cables.

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szczszqweqwe@reddit

Well, Nvidia decided to not do that, so there is that.

I'd argue that the further behind you are, the better something like a 3080 will be compared to a 5080.

Both are a nice decent upgrade, but the 5080 is double the price.

You get a similar experience, but one is just expensive, while the other is completely ridiculous amount of money.

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lachiendupape@reddit

You don’t get a similar experience that’s bullshit, I came from a 3080 to a 5080 and I can run whatever I like on 1440p at ultra 120 fps no issues. Indiana jones is like butter as long as you limit or tune off path tracing.

5080 is a great card and would be a huge upgrade for OP, current price and availability is the issue

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I did upgrade from 1080ti (not bare 1080, but still) to 4080 super, which is comparable to 5080.

Have I noticed major improvements ? Nope. Picture quality in Wuthering Waves in 4K has improved a lot, but I still had to disable A LOT of settings to make it playable. Including RTX, which was supposed to be a major selling point.

So... If you decide to use it as more powerful version of 1080 with mostly similar settings, you will feel great. But if you decide to turn on every new technology out there everyone talks about, you will have a bad time, significantly worse than with well-tuned 1080.

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Piotr_Barcz@reddit

If you're at a 3060 ti or below then a 50 series card (if you can get one at a good price) is not a stupid move to buy. Absolutely not. Considering the performance efficiency and also size of the cards is a huge improvement over the previous gen I think they're a much better option than settling for a 40 series card or under.

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ZealousidealBadger47@reddit

expensive and generating 'fake' frames. Even super or ti, it will still making 'fake' frames.

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SteadyDJ516@reddit

Any 50 series card is Hella scalped and over price go get an AMD card unless ur willing to pay double

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isolatedzebra@reddit

My test for a gpu upgrade as at least 100% performance uplift. This passes the sniff test.

That said the 5080 and 4080 kind of suck if you aren't coming from really old cards.

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schnorkletime@reddit

Its this simple - If cost is not an issue the upgrade from a 1080 will be immense. Absolutely do it. If frames per $ are of interest then absoultely do not buy a 5080 right now. Give it a few months till prices stabilise or look at a 7800XT or something else.

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iamakinder@reddit

Of course no brooo. Maybe it's the best in the near future. You might get overwhelmed how it's strong lol

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shabansatan@reddit

Its stupid if your budget is the whole card ..if its 20% of your budget for entertainment bits than its not

Also if you buy it for official price or somehow less its not stupid and if you are depending on that card for content creation and stuff than buy it its not a bad card

However for me a guy in europe with none of them available and college to pay,a 3060 is still doing okay,even if i can buy the 5080...do i really need it,i can still play anything on 3060 1440p with dlss,plus im a retro gamer...so nope i dont need it,i game as a hobby so in my case buying a 1000€ card from a reseller thats probably 1300€ here at cheapest its a stupid financial decision

Even getting a 4060 or 4070 would be stupid even if i got this 3060 for only 160€ or something used...its still doing my things,i obviously wish i had a 5090 but its a smarter move for people like me to wait 1-2 more series maybe somehow the prices wont be shit

Also it depends on the rest of your build...if you dont want a bottleneck with an expensive card youd need to spend probably good money on expensive AM5/DDR5 motherboards,than the rams and cpus are also more expensive... especially for me im stuck on a AM4/DDR4 even if i have the best parts its not smart to upgrade them yet imo

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TwistedMind_TV@reddit

Question is what CPU do you have? Is it as old as the 1080? Then the CPU will bottleneck the 5080.

If you have a up to date CPU even the 5070 would be a more than substantial upgrade.

Not at all

From a 1080 to 5080 is insane uplift

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Sakakaki@reddit

I don't disagree at all that the power draw system they have now is a clear indication of gross negligence and that Nvidia should not be able to get away with it. I'm also of the opinion that any price point above the msrp isn't worth it performance wise. Overall, both in terms of performance and safety, this launch is even worse than the last.

I only wanted to make the point that, unless multiple faulty factors come together, chances of a 5080 or the cable melting is close to zero. Technically, this risk exists in every single iteration of the 40 and 50 series card.

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UniqueTicket@reddit

Fair enough. I'm not convinced with the "close to zero", but I agree with you that the risk is much lower than with 4090s and 5090s.

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changen@reddit

That's the real reason I think 5080s has knee capped power limits and barely any performance uplift over 4080s.

Nvidia definitely melted some cables in their own testing, so lowering stock power limits will definitely reduce the chance of cables melting once it hits mass market.

If you want to hit the real 5080 performance cap, you personally have to take the risk of increase power limits. Nvidia just shifted the risk to the user

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Evolution_eye@reddit

Why would they then use the same connector on a higher powered card?
They cannot decide not to do it and do it at the same time based on that idea you pitched, although i agree they must have known, to an extent at least, about their power delivery issues.

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Nobatime6@reddit

There’s only been 1 confirmed documented case of 5080s cable burning and 1 unconfirmed on r/nvidia or r/asus. stop spreading lies like every 5080 card is burning. Sure the design is flawed but the power draw makes it significantly less of a risk vs the 4090/5090

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UniqueTicket@reddit

Where did I lie? The power design is wrong in all of those GPUs. Just because it's less dangerous in some than in others it doesn't make it not dangerous.

I went from a 3070 FE to a 5080.

It depends entirely on what generation you’re coming from. For me it’s a 2.3 x increase in performance (before fake frames and after overclocking). I also managed to get my quite premium card at 1200£ which is decent value considering the f’d market.

From a 1080? That's a perfectly fine upgrade. People lack perspective.

The 50-series is overprice and the gains over the 40-series are disappointing. It still outperforms the 40-series and due to low 40-series stock probably costs less. It also has newer features like DP2.1a.

So if you have a 30-series holding on for a bit is smart. If you have a 1080, that card is aging out pretty bad at this point.

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bakuonizzzz@reddit

It's alright not a generational upgrade unless you somewhat overclock, it's just stupidly priced and scalped by both AIB and scalpers.

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kidtexas@reddit

I just bought one. Put my name on the lists at B&H for the two cheapest ones on 2/12. Got an email 5 days later for one, had one day to buy. Received it yesterday.

The day after I bought it, got a notification for the other model.

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chcampb@reddit

It's not underperforming, it's just that normally going from one generation to the next incurs some price to performance improvement.

There was none. It is the same price to performance, but more of it, so the prices generally went up and all the new stuff was mostly software which the 4000 series got as well.

5080 is hands down the BEST $1K GPU on the market, the only issue is the matter of availability and price hikes, if you can manage to snag a 5080 at MSRP, then you're a winner!

It's basically a 4080 Super with slightly better tech (sameish performance though).

It's a disappointment and it underperforms compared to expectations for what the generation after the 4000's should be, but it's not inherently a bad card. If you're looking for a card in its price range and you get it kind of close to MSRP, it's a good piece of hardware.

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Virtual-Stay7945@reddit

You grab one at msrp yes it worth it but scalping prices currently along with a tariff make it way less appealing. I’d grab an and card and wait until card prices drop and sell it for a better one

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blount__9@reddit

Unfortunately it’s a bad time to buy anything Nvidia.. I got my 4070 back in December and it’s now $200 more than I bought it. I would wait a couple months tbh, or just get a top of the line AMD card (xtx is going for the same price as a 5070 rn).

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Raikoh067@reddit

If you can buy one at MSRP, and you can personally afford it, I think it's worth it. Then again I never upgrade from generation to generation, I usually upgrade every other.

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Randy191919@reddit

It’s not really underperforming, it was just not as much stronger as the 4080 as people hoped, so it was a disappointing upgrade to the people who buy every new generation as it comes out. To those, upgrading from a 4080 to a 5080 was lackluster.

But coming from a 1080 it’s an absolute great upgrade, if you can get it at a reasonable price. It’s supposed to cost about the same as a 4080, while being a more powerful card, so if you can get it at a reasonable price, you’d be dumb to buy a 4080 instead.

Guilty-Cut3358@reddit

I think you should get a 5080, your mind will explode with what a upgrade it will be

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3wayaddiction@reddit

Wait until the prices come down, available, and it's actually within $1100 mark for a good gigabyte oc windforce model.

It would definitely be worth it then. Not many options out there right now from Nvidia until they catch up with the demand unless you find a good used 4090 for around $1k or a used 4080super for around $700.

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Doyoulike4@reddit

If you can get a 5080 for MSRP or really close to it, it'd be a massive upgrade from a 1080. It's just availability is bad right now, lots of scalpers, and the non Founders Edition cards have some at $1200 or more MSRP. The disappointment is just that for all the hype going into this generation, it had less VRAM than people wanted and on most benchmarks it's really performing more like 70TI/Super type card. It'd still absolutely crush 1080P and 1440P/2K with no issue, 4K it's solid but it would've really shined if it had like 20 gigs of VRAM instead of 16, ideally 24 would've been amazing.

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3wayaddiction@reddit

Wait until the prices come down, available, and it's actually within $1100 mark for a good gigabyte oc windforce model.

Hey man! I'm in the same boat, had a 1080 since 2018 never had a reason to upgrade till now (Monster Hunter Wilds) was going to get a 4070ti super but i heard the 50 series was coming out so I waited. Clearly that was a mistake because it's been a struggle to get anything the last few weeks. I was trying to get the 5080 but today I was able to get a 5070ti for 1k USD, a bit over MSRP but I'm happy, plan to have this card for 4+ years.

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bbpsword@reddit

Used 3080 gang

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max1001@reddit

Not at reasonable MSRP.

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OGkobo@reddit

Honestly if you've been putting up with the 1080 this long, you may as well just grab a second hand 12gb 3080 and use the left over cash to invest in other parts, a better monitor, games, etc

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ibeerianhamhock@reddit

Ummm that would be an insanely good upgrade from a 1080.

I had a 1080 then a 2080 then a 3080 and now a 4080 and 3080 to 4080 was the biggest jump by far in real world use with frame gen (in terms of raw power ofc the 2080-3080 was a massive upgrade).

Everyone is stupid. Buy the card, it'll be a huge upgrade.

Everyone wants every new card to be 1000% better than the last gen and cost $5. Even then they'd bitch and moan.

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More-Alternative6037@reddit

Bro honestly go with AMD, idk what this glaze for nvidia but I got a 7800xt and its nice asf I get good frames

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Appeltaartlekker@reddit

Listen:

The 5080 is a good card. It's expensive because it's new. If you can wait a bit, it will drop
The 4080 super is about 5 to 10% less performance. It's cheaper by quite a bit, but you are a little bit less future-proof.

Depends who you ask.

Jensen Huang recommends it 10/10. Maybe even buy two just for giggles, he would say.

Personally I think these high end graphics card prices are a joke and the generational uptick in performance quite pathetic.

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Bangbang_thetagang@reddit

No it’s not stupid. I have an EVGA 1080TI that has lasted me since it came out. It’s definitely showing its age now and I’ve played more games on console because of it. I’m doing a new build this cycle and honestly plan to do the same except I’ll take a 5090 if I can get one. My thought is, yes it’s expensive but it should last me 8-10 years. All things permitting.

SamaritanDecima@reddit

I upgraded from a 2070 Super to a 5080 FE.

So far, i been plagued with so many issues, idk whether to blame the shit motherboard or 5080 PCB or nvidia drivers...

Had to deal with: - laggy monitor, mouse, video stuttering.

if i attempt to OC the 9800x3D, somehow i get DRAM issues on my mobo, and need to revert the changes.
if i attempt to undervolt the 5080, the GPU bricks up and leaves me with a black screen monitor.

The workarounds: - Downgrade all PCI-E and M.2 slots from Gen 5 to 4.

i have done DDU and re-install nvidia drivers, it does not help
I need to turn off the integrated graphics from 9800x3D
every single time i need to restart, (it does not matter whether i put the pc to sleep mode, or from a fresh start), if i dont restart, i encounter (mouse, monitor, video stutter)
i can't upgrade from window 10 to 11, not unless i want 90-seconds boot time. Window 10 24H22, im currently avging a boot time of 11.5-13.7 seconds.

Im currently using a 160hz 4K monitor. In nvidia control panel, if i change the display refresh rate from default 60hz to 144/160hz, i get hit with nvidia black screen of death (then had to navigate to Windows Safe Mode). Only 120hz or below works on the 5080.

I have changed into 2 different motherboards, and i still encounter most of the issues seen aboved. So im 95% confidence it a nvidia issue.

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dem_titties_too_big@reddit

What does "under performing" even mean lmao?

It's the new top tier (not counting the unicorn 5090), it performs exceptionally well - it's just priced really badly.

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bigsnyder98@reddit

At current pricing yes. Assuming supply and prices stabilize, then the 5080 makes more sense. Not a great buy even then, but at least tolerable for those making a large upgrade.

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cptchnk@reddit

It’s not a bad card, but it’s not a great VALUE, even at the $999 MSRP. Definitely a no-buy at these $2000+ asking prices we’re seeing right now, unless you don’t care about dropping that amount of money on a 5080. :P

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H0lychit@reddit

If you can get it at MSRP then go for it mate. It will knock your socks off going from a 1080

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Seems like a damn good card, if you can get one for msrp

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Big-Entertainment584@reddit

3080 to 4080 about 50% increaase

4080 to 5080 about 10% ioncrease

DiggingNoMore@reddit

Nope. I also just replaced my 1080 with a 5080. Yeah, it cost me $999 instead of the $649 I paid for the 1080 in 2016, but it's way more powerful.

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TabularConferta@reddit

Never pay scalper.

The problems recently is that performance has scaled basically linearly with price (Jay did a good graphics on this).

What this means is that an entry and mid tier card are now vastly more expensive than they should have been given previous trend.

Think of to like this. You buy a new TV, with inflation you expect it to be the same price you paid for your old one but because it's 6 years newer you expect mod cons like connecting to the internet. Now imagine they charged you extra for all those saying 'hey it's better than your old'.

If you can afford a 5080 and you are happy to pay for it you will have a great card especially for the uplift from 1080. For many other people (particularly if your not 4k gaming) it's a huge price jump that is way outside of inflation.

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DampeIsLove@reddit

Yes

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I have an MSI Gaming Trio OC and it's a beast with absolutely no problems. Just make sure you have a good PSU and cable it properly, and you'll have no problems.

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No, it's not stupid.

It will be hell of an upgrade.

Question is do you actually need it. Other than that it's your money.

I recently bought 4060 regular, and I'm happy.

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pewbdo@reddit

I replaced my 10 series titan x with a pny 5080 OC I picked up for 999$. It's bonkers to experience the performance coming from a 2016 card. If you can get one at MSRP you won't regret a thing.

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cgcaps@reddit

I’m coming from a 3080 and was able to get one from Best Buy, but the price was painful. I was able to secure a 5070 Ti today, so I’m going to return the 5080. It was hard to justify that price point for me.

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EU-HydroHomie@reddit

Yes. 7900xtx is much better value.

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GardeniaPhoenix@reddit

I'd go with a 4000 series.

Or even a 3000 if you don't want melted cables possibly.

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Hiply@reddit

This is pretty simple:

The massive upgrade from a 1080 to a 5080 (even if they are underperforming - which they're not) is so significant that of course, yes, if money's not an issue you should buy it. You'll have leapfrogged 3 entire generations of GPUs and future-proofed yourself for years to come.

CAVEATS:

Make sure you have a solid new PSU. nVidia says 850 watts, but I would aim for 1000w minimum (for future-proofing and headroom) and don't cheap out on it. Spend the money for a top tier ATX 3.1-compliant unit...you'll thank yourself later.
You're not just going to pull a 1080 out of a 5+ year old mobo with a 5+ year old CPU, storage, and RAM system and not immediately be bound by components besides your shiny new 5080. The rest of the system's going to matter as well so some of your gains will depend on what you're putting that card into.

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nesnalica@reddit

stupid is the wrong word

its just too expensive for what u get.

on top of that if u buy of a scalper youll just feed the problems

the card itself is fine. the price just aint it.

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TheLoboss@reddit

In your case, no. It is a good upgrade.

The problem is the inflated price. Wait for restocks and for the price to settle down. Alternatively, the used market is always an option.

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aposi@reddit

It's a good upgrade from a 1080. It's a poor upgrade from a 4080 Super.

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lucifaxxx@reddit

I upgraded from a 3070ti to a 5080, and i regret nothing. It runs everything perfectly. Was it worth it to me? Absolutely.

opensrcdev@reddit

The RTX 5080 is literally the second best gaming GPU available in the universe. It's totally sensible to purchase one.

PolarSodaDoge@reddit

waiting is never smart since you never know what will happen, the longer you use a gpu the more value you get out of it, say you wait a year and use that 5080, it goes down by lets say $200 but you will also keep that hard for shorter time since newer enes will be out in 7-8 years and you will likely upgrade again.

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