Anybody else hate flying in 152s or is it just me?

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5weather@reddit

i like it, its low power make it easier to control

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ApplicationExotic698@reddit

Well that is a joke plane and you are a joke pilot. So nothing wrong with it I guess

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ApplicationExotic698@reddit

If ai had an option to fly 152 or Phenom 300. I will choose Phenom 300 any time and any day of the year!

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nukegamer7931@reddit

I love my 150 (it has a 180 in it)

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I like flying them solo. When I was instructing I had the absolute worst back problems from the way I'd be twisted to be out of the students way. But, flying low and slow in a 152 is easily beaten by flying low and slow in a J3 cub.

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tempskawt@reddit

"I'm not putting my arm around you, just behind you" I'm 6'3 and apparently I only hang out with and instruct other tall folks, this is the only hack I've figured out. Keeps my shoulder from getting smashed and keeps me from fiddling with stuff the student should be doing

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DaciaSanderoLover@reddit

“I’m putting my arm around you so youll have enough room to operate the plane”

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tempskawt@reddit

Around and behind are two different things

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DaciaSanderoLover@reddit

I know every time I’ve been in a 150 or 152 somebody’s hand is on the the floor of the airplane behind the seats

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RaiseTheDed@reddit

That's exactly what I'd do. But when I do it, it would twist my back. Add the zero lumbar support, back pain.

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DaciaSanderoLover@reddit

Solo in a 150/152 is fun I refuse to fold me 275 pound 6 foot 5 ass in one with a student

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mdang104@reddit

What are your dimensions?

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_toodamnparanoid_@reddit

41, 25, 38?

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PILOT9000@reddit

36-24-36 Only if she’s 5’3”.

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RaiseTheDed@reddit

Tall and narrow, but not narrow enough that my shoulders don't mash into the student.

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

Yeah it’s kinda like a lawnmower with wings

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DaciaSanderoLover@reddit

It’s the moped of the sky, it’ll get you there(eventually) no one is gonna think your cool when the see you get there

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Equivalent-Web-1084@reddit

haha

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aRealTattoo@reddit

I always describe them as a straight piped 2004 Honda Civic coupe to my friends. It’s slow as all hell, makes a lot of noise and doesn’t drain your wallet for gas (well sorta). You feel like the coolest dude on earth until the guy with a proper sports car pulls up (literally any other plane).

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JJAsond@reddit

> (literally any other plane) Including another 152

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Over_Bend_9839@reddit

I’ve flown both the 150 and 152. They’re both heavy boring aeroplanes with ponderous handling but at least the 152 has enough power to climb with two people in it. Pretty much anything more modern with a better power to weight. I’ve flown a lot of types and nothing is as dull as the 150. I have a share in a PA28 180 which is also dull, but has a decent useful load, and I have a share in an RV-8, which fucking rocks.

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krepke@reddit

It was fun to fly when a starving instructor, not so much as an overfed middle ager.

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Silent-Ad3745@reddit

i first flew in a 172 and then a 162 and now i fly 152- i LOVE it. they’re so simplistic and cheap and i love not having digital instruments 🧘‍♀️

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theeyeholeman1@reddit

It helps if you think of it less as an airplane and more of a go-kart with wings. Once you get really good at it it starts to feel like an extension of your body.

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Plus-Worry-1847@reddit

I love C150s, only plane where someone could consistently learn to fly and get a license in 40hrs IMO.

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vtjohnhurt@reddit

Not fun if you're too big for the plane.

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Miserable_Team_2721@reddit

Well. I enjoy flying the 152 more than the 150 if that means anything.

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Atlanta_Mane@reddit

I love flying around in a 150. The club I fly with lets me land on dirt strips, and the thing is so small I feel like such a cowboy. It's a blast getting in and out of all sorts of places, even flying in the mountains. I feel like the captain of a small ship, bobbing on the waves.

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AlexJamesFitz@reddit

Loved learning in the 152. No back seats, no GPS, just vibes. I remember my first checkout in a 172 feeling like an event - "oh, I'm moving into the *big* airplane!"

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the1stAviator@reddit

I learned on the C 150 many moons ago even before the 152 was on the drawing board.

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druuuval@reddit

This was me moving from the PA-28 140 into the schools “check ride plane” which was just a PA-28 180.

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TheCultofLoss@reddit

Why would they move yall to a different plane for check rides? At my school you just stay in whatever you’ve been familiar with

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jefe_toro@reddit

The 172 felt like a bus after getting my ppl and the another 100 hrs in a 152

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nascent_aviator@reddit

The 152s I learned in actually had really nice avionics. Moving up to a 172 for my instrument rating felt like going back in time 20 years in that regard.

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AtrophiedTraining@reddit

Yes I loved the simplicity of the 152 and had the same feeling when going to the 172 for my IR. Simplicity is beautiful.

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ThatOnePilotDude@reddit

That’s exactly why I enjoy flying 152s

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livebeta@reddit

What a great way to build hours inexpensively

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druuuval@reddit

Except schools around here in FL want 150/h dry. I guess if you buy your own in 2006 it’s inexpensive?

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NiantriaCards@reddit

Wtf. A flight club in Denver only wants ~$135 wet for 172’s

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Jazzlike_Warning_922@reddit

I wish we had your prices here in the UK My flight school charges for self hire £170 wet, and I've seen some schools closer to London charge £210 (~$265!!!) wet. Both are for 152s.

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the1stAviator@reddit

The UK has always been expensive within Aviation since the 70s and the campaign against aviation (CAA) doesn't help with its exorbitant charges.

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druuuval@reddit

My school has 3 PA28s and they are 179 wet with a 10/h fuel surcharge because prices went up or something. But to get the 152 about 8NM away from here is 150/h dry and fuel is around 5/g

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infowhiskey@reddit

Sigh. I bought a 1970 150K in 2006 for $16,800. Selling it in 2007 for $16,300 to buy a condo was one of the worst decisions I ever made. Wish I still had that plane.

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druuuval@reddit

Tail number please. For scientific purposes.

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infowhiskey@reddit

I'll share it with you if you tell me why you want it.

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haveanairforceday@reddit

I've seen 152 that looks pretty solid and have all the logs for 30k-50k. That's obviously a lot of money still. But its basically what most people spend on a new car. And when you have enough hours you can sell it again

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druuuval@reddit

Believe me I would if I knew an A&P. I am just scared to sink my entire training budget into an airplane and then have something go wrong that I can’t afford to fix.

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guysailor@reddit

I’m an A&P and PPL if you want to strike a deal on a plane for time building 😅

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Rockpilotyear2000@reddit

There are elves for that.

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druuuval@reddit

Ah the epic and everlasting conflict, gremlins vs elves. A fight for the skies and all manner of its metal inhabitants.

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haveanairforceday@reddit

Yeah that's a valid risk consideration

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KITTYONFYRE@reddit

> I've seen 152s that look pretty solid and have all the logs for 30k-50k. for a super basic vfr panel, yeah and yes, I realize that the topic is cheap and inexpensive and I'm here whining about avionics lol! I'm sure that'd be fine in a place like Arizona or Florida where the majority of IMC is just going to kill you if you mess with it. most places though, I don't think owning a non-IR plane is really worth it if you're actually looking to go places I guess you're not looking to "really" go places in a 152 though lol

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SoManyEmail@reddit

Find a buddy to go halfsies. Or two buddies for a threesome.

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jacksonsp117@reddit

Leave Florida. You can rent for 100 (or less) and wet in most places in the Bible belt/Midwest. You can't live in one of the top 10 most expensive states and complain prices are high.

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bwh520@reddit

There's some schools in central Florida you can get a good deal. I'm building in a 150 that rents for 60/hr dry. Split that with another pilot and you are getting some cheap hours.

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PlasticRange526@reddit

Typically though you are getting what you pay for in terms of maintenance and safety.

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bwh520@reddit

You certainly don't get all the bells and whistles you would in a $200 plane, but they still have to follow all the inspections. You are probably right in some instances, but I don't want to fall into the trap of thinking more expensive is better. We are pilots, we should be able to make a good judgment on how well a plane is maintained

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livebeta@reddit

Still beats 200/dry

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earthgreen10@reddit

then just do gliders

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livebeta@reddit

~~you can always go around, if it don't look right coming down~~ record screech

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the1stAviator@reddit

Its a great trainer and hours builder. Its a gutless wonder......yes but its a great little aircraft for fun flying. Taking mum and dad for a flight etc. Such a gentle and forgiving aircraft but for those spring steel u/c legs. Want something faster, get a small jet. Careful though. Dont fall behind whilst flying something that.

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soyAnarchisto331@reddit

Time is time. Why do you want to cruise faster when the goal for most people flying the 152 is to accrue that time as cheaply as possible? If you hate flying in the 152 all you have to do is pay more money for a larger ring of where you can go in your given time frame. But you won't be flying any more.

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DisregardLogan@reddit

That’s exactly why I like em. They’re slow but also pretty sturdy things.

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jwsimmons@reddit

I’ve been in two that were IFR (one even LPV capable). Very slooooow approaches but capable little planes! I’m sure it caused havoc on ATC’s sequencing plans 😂

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DisregardLogan@reddit

Lmao I never see IFR capable 152s. Usually they’re such shitboxes that it isn’t worth the pretty penny to upgrade em but that’s actually pretty cool haha

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Zargothrax@reddit

My school had 3 IFR capable 152s, each with dual nav/comms with at least 1 of the nav’s having a glide slope.

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thrfscowaway8610@reddit

My C150 has a IFR panel.

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srirachaninja@reddit

I flew a 152 Sparrowhawk once, and it was very fun. Felt like a GoCart in the Sky.

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redditburner_5000@reddit

The 150/152 are as close to you get to being an aerial gokart while still flying a certified plane. What's not to like. You know what you're getting with it.

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helno@reddit

I really enjoyed learning how to fly the C152. But I'm not a 125 lb 18 year old anymore. Hard to find an instructor that I can fly in one with.

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bingeflying@reddit

The 152 is one of the best if not the very best first airplane to own. It teaches you so much about weight and balance, fuel management, time distance and speed, decision making in marginal weather conditions. It’s also affordable…ish… simple, easy store and work on, and parts are plentiful and affordable…ish. I hated instructing in them but owning one was a dream

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Outrageous-Put-1998@reddit

I've only flown a couple times, however the c152 is my favorite plane in Microsoft flight simulator to take around as the controls are super forgiving and it basically flies itself.

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mig82au@reddit

It's my favourite Cessna to actively fly rather than use as transportation. The larger ones have sloppy controls and aren't as interesting.

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JimTheJerseyGuy@reddit

I wanted to fly 152s. I can't fit in the damn things. 6'4" is too tight a fit.

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Tmdngs@reddit

So much noise for a tin can box with a fan that flies barely faster than a car lol

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ryan0157@reddit

I hated the 152 when I was instructing because of the lack of power and feeling like I was too big for it. All of my students loved it so guess which airplane I spent the most time in…

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F-14cobra@reddit

I haven't flown much in 152s simply because I am too tall for them. I'm a big dude in general not really fat or anything just 6''5". The Cherokee/Archer is just barely big enough but getting in and out is a pain. That being said 152s can be kinda fun it's like driving a slow car fast. And they are cheeeap.

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happydad9@reddit

My back still doesn't appreciate the time I spent in them.

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Sea_Procedure_6293@reddit

I didn’t mind the 152. Then I flew a 150 and I hated that thing, felt unsafe.

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172drivr@reddit

It's the same airplane except 10 extra horsepower (110) with an o-235 instead of a 100hp o-200

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Schpiegelhortz@reddit

That's a pretty significant 10% difference in horsepower.

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Sea_Procedure_6293@reddit

OMG, you’re right, I take it back. Thanks for pointing that out.

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AtrophiedTraining@reddit

I mildly dislike the 150 and love the 152 as well. That extra 10 hp makes all the difference.

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Sea_Procedure_6293@reddit

Thanks for validating me, unlike the smarty pants below

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SuperFaulty@reddit

I \*HATE\* the C152 (I thought it was just me, LOL!) I made a mistake of doing 60 hours in it for my PP, it almost drained my love for aviation. Should have opted for the slightly pricier (hourly rate) and heavier C172. The C152 is so light it's always being tossed by the wind in all directions, and landing the thing takes FOREVER, it just floats and floats and floats over the runway, ugh...

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Logan5276@reddit

Very agile and fun, basic plane to fly. Especially for maneuvers.

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waveslikemoses@reddit

Also stupid cheap to operate

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falcopilot@reddit

"stupid cheap"- that means you think it's cheap if you're stupid? Well, we're talking about flying for fun, so, yeah, I guess that qualifies. Although a buddy's Flight Design will cruise at \~3 GPH (at C150 speeds) on MoGas... OTOH it cost 3-5x what a 150/152 does, so I'm sure he'll break even before he dies, if the maintenance doesn't get too bad.

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waveslikemoses@reddit

Never knew what Flight Design was until today 😳

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Vihurah@reddit

I love mine, plus it's got a beefed engine so the climb performance is rocket ship level. My one issue with the airframe is that I feel like I'm flying a giant panel of cardboard on windy days

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ckFuNice@reddit

A 150 \ 152 teaches you to fly the wing, which is a good starting point in training. They're easy to fly , but just ' difficult enough to fly well ', so to speak. It has a cogent and learnable exact rpm change to exact trim change , it is a good place for a beginner to sit to learn being precise, which hopefully builds a foundation and carrys through the next airplane(s)...and it spins really nice (:

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novwhisky@reddit

152 is a ton of fun in a small package! I once lucked into a massive tailwind after a storm was clearing out and couldn’t believe how much ass I was hauling! Also the club seats in 172s are trash, I love sitting on the wing!

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thrfscowaway8610@reddit

I've done close to 150 kt GS in a tailwind... ...and 28 kt GS in a headwind.

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jacksonsp117@reddit

Sure - but there's a lot of fun in a 150/52 you can do that 99.99% of airplanes can't do and they handle like a dream pivoting on a dime. Now - only draw back... W&B and if you're big it isn't fun to squeeze in. Otherwise, they are fun.

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jawshoeaw@reddit

My instructor refused to fly in them unless the student was very petite and the school didn’t charge much less for them - something like $30/hr difference.

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CharAznableLoNZ@reddit

It's a great little plane. Love just how slow you can go in one. When you do go "fast" it seems so happy. Like a sky miata. It's just like how slow car fast is more fun than fast car fast.

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RedLeg105@reddit

I love all of the tricycle gear, single engine, Cessnas but for flying to enjoy a $200 hamburger a 152 is perfect.

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BoysenberryGlobal298@reddit

Would be an excellent plane if they had made it with 130- 150hp.

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ChrisHut737@reddit

My friend's 152 has a sparrowhawk conversion, so it's 125 hp. That thing just flies so nice, and has a decent climb rate

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dbltreecookieslayer@reddit

I love em, have hundreds of hours teaching in them. The 152 to me is like a go kart. Super snappy and responsive and you can put it wherever you want.

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PK808370@reddit

I preferred 152s to 172s when I was training. Felt more sporty, less like a fat SUV or minivan, more like a Miata or something cheap and fun. To be clear, cruising is exceedingly boring to me and I have the most fun landing so I didn’t care too much about speed.

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ShelbyDriver@reddit

I learned in a 150 years ago. Did you know you can change the pitch by leaning forward? You can turn by leaning to the right too. That trick scared my passengers every time. I'd love to have one now!

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PILOT9000@reddit

Where are you off to in a hurry? If you’re just time building why fly fast and burn extra gas?

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Tomcat848484@reddit

I loved it. Climbed really well, great armament too. It’s just all the damn Mustangs and Jugs everywhere that made it hazardous.

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VanDenBroeck@reddit

Then take a bike on your next trip.

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mdang104@reddit

It’s not too bad. The worst experienced I’ve was when my CFI farted.

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CBRChimpy@reddit

152s are cool. The Aerobat version is even cooler.

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Redfish680@reddit

Any 152 can become an Aerobatic. Don’t ask me how I know…

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ValuableJumpy8208@reddit

Did you incipient spin one on a checkride and then pass like my friend did? Not sure how they got away with it.

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apoplectickitty@reddit

When you get good at it…the 152 is awesome. You can become one with that plane and have an absolute blast.

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Bill92677@reddit

"become one with that plane" resonated with me. I always felt like I was wearing the 152 as opposed to flying a 172. Always enjoyed it.

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ValuableJumpy8208@reddit

Same. It’s also what I learned in. Cheap, relatively efficient, easy to fly, easy to land.

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Minute-Psychology101@reddit

We have a 152 here that was part of the school, now part of the museum which means that it has been restored and is flown regularly, but is not being beaten to death by students. I ride a bike and can afford a CJ and still think the 152 is a barrel of laughs. I will fly almost anything and enjoy it. Better than walking and spending my life looking at the sky and dreaming about what it would be like.

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skyjunki3@reddit

Just you 👍🏻

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Practical_-_Pangolin@reddit

Misplaced priorities

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Throwawayyacc22@reddit

I LOVE the 152 for that exact reason, I rent for 75/hr dry, plan an XC, cruise in the middle of the white arc, build tons of XC time this way and get some real cheap hours…

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druuuval@reddit

Dear fellow poor splitting $75/h +fuel… please send me these details so we may fly together. Schools here are the only ones renting to anybody under 500 hours and they all want 170+ per hour for anything.

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Throwawayyacc22@reddit

Where are you located? School is in KY, currently they’re attempting to sell the 150 but if it falls through, the only thing is you’ll need a PPL to split time, your flair says ST, hit me up when you finish up or if you already have PPL Also, there’s tons of time building places in Florida at close to the same price point, but they sell block time which is a little more upfront

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druuuval@reddit

I’m waiting on a check ride now. Early May and the wait is killin me. I work at an FBO here and there are a lot of owners who wouldn’t mind flying with me but I can’t log anytime until I have that PPL. Gotta get into the club before I can worry about the cost of drinks I guess.

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Throwawayyacc22@reddit

You’ll get there in no time, good luck on the ride!

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rcbif@reddit

I paid about $78/hr WET to fly them about 6 years ago, so was just fine with em!

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Ok_Truck_5092@reddit

No. i fly a 172 now and i miss the lil guy.

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KindaSortaGood@reddit

Never flown one. Love my 150 tho

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livebeta@reddit

Just imagine twin engine variant of your 150 /jk

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AtrophiedTraining@reddit

Brutal

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ChuckOrBeChucked@reddit

Thank you

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sftwareguy@reddit

Y'all need to get into a Super 152. Bigger engine, constant speed prop, retractable gear. Cruise at 170 kts. Only one built and is totally illegal to fly in the US and Canada.

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2009impala@reddit

I <3 my 150

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run264fun@reddit

I sometimes fly a 150 with an upgraded 150hp engine. I’d pick that over most planes any day.

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mtcwby@reddit

They do feel a bit like a go cart. I've only had to fly one once when the plane I had reserved went down and I was meeting someone for a prebuy. Took a long time to fly across the central valley.

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pilotavery@reddit

If your goal is to reach a destination, sure. But if your goal is maximize number of hours, that's perfect for this.

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FitInterview7875@reddit

Not everyone needs to go fast for no reason. Just enjoy life and the scenery.

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adventuresofh@reddit

Solo in a 150/152 can be a lot of fun! I miss having access to one! I love my Stinson but man 5gph would be nice. They’re agile, docile, and really fun to fly once you know how to fly it! It’s a great airplane to build time in for less since they’re so cheap to operate.

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GryphonGuitar@reddit

I learned to fly in a cub. A 152 is like a spaceship to me.

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pappogeomys@reddit

Some people like to get in an airplane, some people like to put on an airplane -- I'm one of the latter.

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SolemnSoldier2020@reddit

it's not a G-V but it gets the job done 🤷🏾‍♂️

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eSUP80@reddit

Hate 152s- yep. 2 grown men in there is like a sweat locker. Give me a 172 all day over that

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fridleychilito@reddit

You have 10 more hp than I did. Be thankful

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Sea-Yogurtcloset91@reddit

I am 6'7" and I have to choose between using the yoke and the throttle. My knees are always in the way. I just stopped flying those when I was 17 lol

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InformationYankee@reddit

I love them.

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s2soviet@reddit

I love it.

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FlyingYankee118@reddit

I’m never going back. They were always incredibly uncomfortable. You felt every knot of wind. The doors would randomly open in flight. I had the seat go backwards during TO near hills. Ill always remember it somewhat nostalgically but I won’t ever miss it

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cofonseca@reddit

152 handles like a go kart man. I miss flying one. Ask for some short approaches and slip it around for a few laps. Have fun with it.

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TacticalP00P@reddit

100% go cart, always say that when people ask how I like it

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jgremlin_@reddit

Girl: So you're a pilot eh? What kind of plane do you fly? Pilot: Well you see that big gray plane over there with 4 engines on it? Girl: Sure. Pilot: Well that's a C130. But I fly a C150.

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retardhood@reddit

I built time in one for a bit, really felt like a chore. I was normally in a Grumman Tiger. I never really loved flying around in GA for the hell of it, but the 150 made it almost painful. I wish I loved flying a small airplane around.

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xtalgeek@reddit

The 152 is a trainer, not a traveling machine. It excels as a trainer: good handling yet forgiving. Simple and economical. Pretty much every 2-seat, 100-120 hp plane has similar performance. I trained in a 152, and it made earning the PPL economically feasible. I also flew 172s, Cherokee 140s, and a Citabria during training, but the 152 was the most economical fun. The 172 handles like a pickup truck compared to the 152.

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Kai-ni@reddit

I love a 150. I ... am small. It's the perfect size aircraft for me!

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awh@reddit

Back in the day I was a member of a flying club where you didn’t need a separate checkout in a 152. As long as you could fly the 172, they just told you “all your airspeeds are just 5 knots slower” and let you take the 152 out. It was fantastic. Loved that little thing. Nice and slow, you could see the scenery, cheap to rent… I don’t think I’d like I much if I’d had to fly in it with another person, but it’s sure nice by yourself. These days I think I’d need an actual checkout in one, and I’m too fat for that, so 172 it is.

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chuckop@reddit

I did all my initial training in a 150/152. You forgot to mention "cramped". Yes, it's slow. But it is no joke. Cessna made an incredible aircraft that you can throw around the sky at will and will forgive any bad landing and ask for more.

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Jzerious@reddit

I like that it’s so small

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WntrWltr@reddit

I love mine, plus I own it outright so no complaints here.

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sunny5222@reddit

Literally?

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hoosier06@reddit

I did most of my time building in the smaller cousin, the 150. Had to circle above airport to climb in the summer before clearing the hills

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jefe_toro@reddit

Maybe this a sign you need to lose some weight

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pilotshashi@reddit

you need Airbus or Boeing or what? 😒

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VladAkimov@reddit

I actually really like it!

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iflyaurplane@reddit

It feels like if I fart too hard, the wings are going to fall off. Edit I have big boom booms

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Similar-Good261@reddit

The C152 is an affordable way to get into the air and a very good and reliable trainer for those who want to make flying a career. If you can afford more expensive airplanes, go for them. I have always liked C152 and 172 for their simplicity.

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Altruistic-Cod1330@reddit

Flying a 152 is way cooler than flying a jet. I miss that plane.

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SlicerShanks@reddit

I adored our schools 152 back when we had one. Even had a 430! I went on so many cross countries in that thing, renting for so damn cheap, insane takeoff and landing distances.

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EUTrucker@reddit

But it's cheap and reliable

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B-L-O-C-K-Ss@reddit

I like it. It’s a little go kart

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MunitionGuyMike@reddit

Never flown one. Can’t say anything except my wife says they’re cute

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This is a copy of the original post body for posterity: --- I know lots of people enjoy it, but man, it feels like I’m literally flying in a joke. It can’t climb and I could cruise faster on bicycle. --- Please downvote this comment until it collapses. --- I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. If you have any questions, please [contact the mods of this subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/flying).

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