Could someone please explain to me in few and simple words, what exactly causes stall spins, how to recover your plane from them, and how to avoid them? The pilot below was able to regain control.
Posted by aLaStOr_MoOdY47@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 12 comments
Parad0x_@reddit
Its part of the PPL process.
Effectively during a stall; rather than using rudder to stay coordinated. One wing dips down further and enters a deeper stall than the other wing and that starts the spin.
Part of the training is learning the P.A.R.E method to get out of it.
Video from inside a cockpit during training
etheran123@reddit
In the US, spins are not in the PPL curriculum. Recovery method is taught, and spin avoidance is a thing. power on/off stalls in a turn. but it was deemed too dangerous to teach and killed more people than it saved. Most spins are at low altitude within the pattern where its impossible to recover.
CFI is the only cert that needs actual spin training.
probably me being pedantic though since now that I am rereading your comment, you didn't say that it was specifically practiced, just wanted to clarify for anyone else reading.
usmcmech@reddit
I demonstrate spins to all my PPL students.
Even if they never want to see them again they always appreciate it.
etheran123@reddit
Interesting. currently a low time PPL myself, Id be interested to try one. I have never heard of a local school doing a demo for that purpose though. I'm sure someone near me offers it as a specific spin training course, which I should do at some point.
usmcmech@reddit
If you’re in the DFW area I’ll be happy to show you.
pilot7880@reddit
DFW is the place to be!
RealChanandlerBong@reddit
It's part of pilot training.
Stalling when you are not coordinated will cause one wing to stall before the other, drop, and spin the aircraft.
You can avoid this by staying coordinated (both wings will stall at the same time so you drop down without spinning) or by not stalling in the first place.
To recover, basically you stop the spinning with the rudder (not the ailerons), break the stall if still stalled, recover.
It's actually quite simple at altitude, low to the ground there isn't much time to recover. Emphasis is therefore often placed on stall recognition first, stall-spin recovery second.
Just_Another_Pilot@reddit
One note on the recovery, the single most important part is reducing angle of attack with down elevator. That alone will get you out of the spin in a normal category airplane.
pilot7880@reddit
Back when I trained for my PPC and practiced power-off stall recovery, I used to do what you referred to here, i.e. applying down elevator along with full throttle. I remember my instructor chiding me for this and telling me all I needed to do was simply release back pressure on the elevator, rather than put the plane into a quasi-nose dive.
Fantastic_Sign_7088@reddit
I put a plane in to a nose dive a bit today doing this. It was very scary!
pilot7880@reddit
Yeah, there's a tendency to over-correct.
Release-Icy@reddit
there no certain answer for first question because it's depends on an aircraft and even on how load the aircraft. if you ask for simulator you have to do yourself only and never ask anybody, just practice and do what you want, first of all, because simulators can use wrong scripts and ask wrong behavior, and even have a wrong autorotation itself, if you ask for real life, it's better to ask your instructor about exactly certain aircraft. and you can actually found really enough info in literature, or train video, from 1940 years till today:)
but again for any simulator try yourself, you can not crash to death there:)
the more you will fly practically the more you will feel theory... about second question. avoid lost speed and sadden moves:) if you feel aircraft lost controls and moves nose up, push it down, if same but nose down, push it up, and start every moves from minimum force, because in some aircraft you can easy over compensate and get for example from usual yaw autorotation inverted yaw autorotation, or just another direction spin, or from spin can get to dutch roll, or falling leaf... flying wing aircraft can have pitch axis autorotation, and every single situation in every single type of the flat will ask different behavior. so nobody will answer your question, because any answer will wrong for some certain type of aircraft and certain consequences of the stall.