MSP arrival during snowstorm last night, I love watching all the workers keeping up with the snow
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webjester32@reddit
I worked in MN for about five years straight between 2010 and 2015 flying in from LA every week.
Never once had a flight cancelled for weather during the winter months, delayed yes but never cancelled.
Love MSP!
Exterior@reddit (OP)
It’s a great city and a great airport!
MoldyCumSock@reddit
I work the ramp for fedex at MSP occasionally. The snowy days are my favorite!!
Darth_Thor@reddit
I love watching snow removal crews! Having done that work myself, I can confirm that it is just as satisfying as it looks. Long hours, and it’s almost always night shift, so your social life takes a hit for sure, but I was enjoying it.
YogurtclosetSouth991@reddit
I run the snow removal team at a small regional airport. It's very stressful. I am constantly juggling resources against needs. Timing is everything. And I have to be 5 steps ahead of the schedule.
The trickiest part is making sure the runway is in good condition for inbound aircraft. (I always say that snow removal during a storm is like sex - it's about ceilings and friction.)
It's an incredible amount of effort and money often with very little revenue. I'll give you an example. It was forecast to maybe snow this morning (fortunately it is mostly rain). Forecasting is pretty reliable so 3 days ago I had already organized manpower: overtime callouts for for 2 operators (for a total of 4) with two more ready to platoon later in the day if it went on all day. Fatigue is a big factor.
During the snowfall we are constantly monitoring the runway condition. Accumulations, friction testing, taxiway priorities, windrow size and placement.
Equipment took 2 days to wash and grease from the previous snowfall. Repairs took 1 day. Took deliveries of urea and potassium acetate. 13k and 12k respectively. (I can run through this in a about week or 2 months depending on conditions. Made sure we had diesel. Brine for groundside areas.
Spent a thousand dollars on runway edge light repairs. There are dozens of other smaller details to attend to as well. Things like making sure the Terminal buckets have salt for sidewalks. , helipad s are cleared, windows and snow piles aren't too high. Approach lights aren't covered. NOTAM's to issue. Fuel for generators for emergency lighting.
So, not including capital costs a two day snow event can cost around 20k for revenue of about 3k. Double that if aircraft fuel with us.
It's a crap ton of work. I love it, though.
gregarious119@reddit
I salute you
LPNTed@reddit
They made it to parking with the flaps down?!?!?
antesocial@reddit
https://www.quora.com/If-a-plane-taxiis-after-touchdown-with-the-flaps-still-up-someone-said-thats-a-signal-to-ATC-that-theres-a-terrorist-incident-on-board-A-pilot-later-disputed-this-who-was-right
LPNTed@reddit
Bingo
-Amplify@reddit
Flaps are left down for cold weather and hot weather procedures now. In the event of a hijacking there’s a transponder frequency to use.
LPNTed@reddit
You should have read the other replies, but thanks for trying. 🏆
pipesIAH@reddit
Don't want ro retract flaps if you suspect ice accumulation.
LPNTed@reddit
This is probably the answer, but.. aren't the good guys supposed to be waiting at the gate to take the plane back, or is that a VERY old security procedure?
LPNTed@reddit
I looked it up… it’s old…
YOURE_GONNA_HATE_ME@reddit
Did you take your medicine today?
LPNTed@reddit
Yes I did take my meds, and obviously you are way to young.
pipesIAH@reddit
I doubt there are many airline folks willing to discuss security procedures on a public forum.
gavriellloken@reddit
If it's very cold or very hot out this is standard for most companies