Is i5 14400f or ryzen 5 8600g better
Posted by Helkinjurgles@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 12 comments
these are the two option in my budget range available near me (converted to usd)
i5 14400f -153usd
ryzen 5 8600g -200 usd
i am planning to upgrade my pc and just got a 4060 however my old cpu (i5 7500) is so weak that i am getting worse frames than my 1050ti.
another thing i5 14400(no f) is 176 usd, is there any notable difference for the price?
VoraciousGorak@reddit
What are the 7500F/7600 priced in your area? Either are greatly superior to then 8600G when paired with a discrete GPU.
Helkinjurgles@reddit (OP)
the 7600 is 220 usd in my area and the 7500 is nowhere to be found .Also didn't expect a direct predecessor to better will note that in the future
MarxistMan13@reddit
The 7600 isn't a direct predecessor to the 8600g. They're different families of products. The 8600g is an APU, the 7600 is a standard desktop CPU. APUs are meant for heavier iGPU usage, but sacrifice some CPU performance (mainly cache) to do so.
Helkinjurgles@reddit (OP)
ah i see, who comes up with these naming conventions because thats crazy
VoraciousGorak@reddit
AMD and Intel have been in a "Worst Name Contest" for decades.
lollipop_anus@reddit
Doesnt make sense to consider 8600g since you already have a 4060, you are just paying extra for an igpu that you wont use. Same thing goes for 14400 vs F, paying extra for an igpu you wont use.
Consider a ryzen 5 7600 or more budget alternatives like 7500F or 7400F. Likely they will be cheaper than 8600g and perform better in gaming. They will trade blows with 14400f in gaming and you will be held back by the 4060 before either CPU you go with. Going with AMD will also mean you can upgrade your CPU easier down the line, if you go with Intel now you will need to buy a new motherboard again when upgrading.
Helkinjurgles@reddit (OP)
in my case the non igpu version (non f) costs more for some reason on both intel and amd side.
ryzen 5 7600 is there for 220$ but is that noticable more that 150$ 14400f.
Another thing i though 4060 was a basically an entry level gpu what cpu is recomended for it?
majoroutage@reddit
The 7600 will outperform the 8600G.
Helkinjurgles@reddit (OP)
thanks friend i think ill be going with 14400f i dont really plan to upgrade and if i ever do ill move straight to a 1000$ chip.
Speaking of upgrade i would like to ask one last question, does the motherboard chipset or price matter i think ill take the cheapest motherboard which has the io and Bluetooth i need and ddr5 beyond that is there any difference in performance?
lollipop_anus@reddit
Chipset just determines the connectivity so stuff like pcie lanes, sata, etc. Just go for the cheapest motherboard that has enough slots and ports and other features for what you think you will need.
lollipop_anus@reddit
Its not so much what CPU is recommended for an entry level GPU but more what options you have to work with. If you get a CPU that is more powerful than what the 4060 gives in performance its not a big deal, because you will eventually upgrade away from the 4060.
The difference is by going with AMD for their AM5 platform, you can upgrade from say a 7600 to a CPU that is multiple generations newer without needing to change your motherboard. If you go with 14400 your upgrade options are limited to either i7 or i9 of the same generation, and if you want to get a generational upgrade you will need a new motherboard. Intel's new core ultra cpu require you to buy a new motherboard for example. Or if you decide to change to AMD later, again you need a new motherboard.
You can think of it like paying a $50 upgrade tax now to upgrade down the line, or pay a $200-400 tax in the future for a new motherboard.
You could check availability of 8000F CPU for AMD. They are the same 8000 cpus but cheaper because igpu is disabled. 8400F for me can be found for around the same price as ryzen 5 5600 and performs about the same. Its on the weak side of AM5 but will be enough to keep up with your 4060 and offer a cheap way to be on the platform to upgrade later.
Vakarmx@reddit
8600g is great when you dont use a GPU...