Bernie Sanders voted NO on the vote to proceed with Tulsi's DNI nomination. She left her position at the DNC to support him for President in 2016. Let's look back at what he has said about her before.

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Sangra69@reddit

Bernie showed his true colors during the primaries to let Hillary win. He actually should have won.

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

No, I think Bernie's always lacked integrity.

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SteezeWhiz@reddit

Tulsi destroyed her credibility ten times over

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JediWizardNinja@reddit

That is a wild takeaway rather than Tulsi has changed lol

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Bernie had a moment and he fell in line to support Hillary of all people after he got screwed over. He voted no for RFK and for Tulsi, two former Democrats that have voiced disagreement to Trump and could have a great impact on health and safety of kids in the US once approved, but no, he's too scared to stand for any actual change. I used to respect him, but turns out he lacks any spine to make change.

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biomed1978@reddit

That's politics and fluo flopping scumbags for you.

1 minute you're colleague is patting you on the back for a good job, the next they're stabbing you in the back

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leenis@reddit

or you've pegged the wrong flip-flopper

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biomed1978@reddit

Nope, Tulsi has always been my candidate. I'm happy she left those scumbag dems in the dust

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leenis@reddit

then you're a flip-flopper too

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808reddit808@reddit

In case you haven’t noticed, the Dems aren’t for universal healthcare either. Bernie, AOC and all the other so called progressives could’ve brought Medicare for all to a floor vote in the house but they chose not to. The could’ve got every Dem on record that doesn’t support M4A but they didn’t. Instead, they went along with Nancy Pelosi( or mama bear as AOC calls her) and have done NOTHING for America. Why are you so shocked that working people have abandoned ship?

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biomed1978@reddit

How so? I've always been a republican and I'm not flush enough to only file those in my party

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Opposite_Witness7823@reddit

Pretty much everything she campaigned for in 2016 she is against now. She’s a completely different person.

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biomed1978@reddit

To quote the NYT:"If Tulsi is guilty of anything, it’s that, since she was born, her views, opinions, and beliefs have evolved to reflect her life’s experiences"

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leenis@reddit

i don't for one second believe that a republican considered tulsi gabbard "their candidate" in 2016, lol

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biomed1978@reddit

Believe what you look, foolish, but believe whatever you like

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leenis@reddit

i had an aneurism trying to decode that sentence, comrade

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biomed1978@reddit

Auto (not) correct sucks

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SeasonsGone@reddit

Why is Sanders a flip flopping scumbag and not Gabbard? She literally ran against Trump for President 4 years ago lol

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biomed1978@reddit

Everybody ran against each other. That's how it works. Vance used to talk smack about Trump, kamala used to talk smack about biden. They both shut their mouths when tapped for vp. Politics has less than zero ethics.

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SeasonsGone@reddit

If that’s the case why is Tulsi paraded as some hero against the enemy, if everyone does it

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nkn_19@reddit

One has to wonder why he continues to be so loyal to a group that went out of their way to sabotage him.

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808reddit808@reddit

He’s made a decent amount of money as a Senator and by remaining loyal to the Dems, they will not run a Dem against him in Vermont. It’s sad, I was a huge Bernie supporter but after he bent over and took it from the DNC after what they did to him in 2016, I couldn’t take him serious anymore.

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Robin-Lewter@reddit

Because he got rich doing it

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Icedcoffee_29@reddit

Yes! What do they have on him??

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BarryLicious2588@reddit

Democrats don't know loyalty. They'll throw anyone under the bus. Why do you think so many are leaving

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SeasonsGone@reddit

For arguments sake, you’d actually prefer he supported her simply because she supported him? You want our politics to actually be a quid pro quo and you’re mad it wasn’t in this example?

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BarryLicious2588@reddit

No you're right, I definitely wouldn't want that just for the sake of it. I'm eluding that democrats love to flip flop and move goal posts. I'm sure Republicans do too, but it's way more prevalent for dems

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SeasonsGone@reddit

Tulsi literally ran against Trump in 2020 (as a left wing progressive I should add) and now serves in his cabinet. Who is the flip flopper now?

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BarryLicious2588@reddit

And she left the Left because of how stupid it is over there. Keep trying to make a point though 🤣

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SeasonsGone@reddit

I just don’t get how one could look at her campaign platform in 2020 and then join the Trump administration and think she has consistent values. Dems are dumb too—I’m not a Democrat lol

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BarryLicious2588@reddit

Saying that someone needs to be consistent versus the ability to change perspectives are two different things. Democrats tend to change their opinion based on what's best for them. Tulsi changed her opinions because she saw what was right and wrong

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SeasonsGone@reddit

That seems speculative—has she commented on why she doesn’t believe in Medicare For All any longer? Or why she does support the Death Penalty? I’m all for people changing their perspectives but I’ve never seen her comment on why she changed these positions. I could easily say switching from these positions is the only option she had to viably serve in the Trump administration

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eviola1@reddit

Yeah she's a scumfuck neocon he shouldn't vote to confirm her

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InTheLoudHouse@reddit

It's possible that he still believes all of these things and still doesn't think she's the person for the job.

You can say a lot of things about bernie, but honesty has been his usual forte.

Not to mention, Tulsi has had some significant changes since 2016.

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Which-Supermarket-69@reddit

Which changes do you think made Bernie abandon her?

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InTheLoudHouse@reddit

I truly couldn't hazard a guess. To be fair, from what I do know about her, I still like her fine. Her stance on American involvement in war aligns with mine. I also don't feel like she went "running to the right". She always struck me as fairly moderate, and the DNC isn't exactly a parade of saints, so her leaving made sense to me.

All this to say, i think both things can be true. That he can believe all the things he said about her, and still vote to not confirm her. I don't disagree that bernie plays it too safe, I think the time for that is gone, but I'm just not seeing the "no" vote as this insidious thing.

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Which-Supermarket-69@reddit

That’s all fair. I just wish he respected the voters that support her enough to give a real explanation as to what changed in his eyes

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SeasonsGone@reddit

Honestly, serving in the Trump administration itself might be the biggest insight into why he’s not supporting her.

I used to really like Tulsi back in 2016. But I can’t help but see her as a contrarian “truthteller”. I more so feel now that she supported Sanders because he was an outsider who might reward her politically if he actually pulled off his campaign over Clinton. He didn’t. Now I see her do the same thing with Trump in 2024, it paid off. I find her less ideologically consistent than ever. Compare her political views in 2016 with the Trump administration and there’s no logical reason she should even be interested in it.

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Which-Supermarket-69@reddit

I mean, anyone who fills the DNI position would be serving in the Trump administration…

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InTheLoudHouse@reddit

Seeking transparency will always be understandable, and I wish more politicians understood this

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Aurondarklord@reddit

One thing we learned about Bernie over time is that he'll never actually stand up to the DNC. About anything. He won't do it for himself, and he won't do it for the people who had his back. He's either a much weaker man than his rhetoric would make him seem, or they have something on him.

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caveman512@reddit

I actually had a lot of hope after his tweet after the most recent presidential elections, but I guess that was false hope

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SeasonsGone@reddit

The tweet where he chastised the DNC for abandoning the working class and how they shouldn’t be surprised at the electoral outcome?

I feel like this is all consistent though. His disdain for the DNC not doing enough does not mean he suddenly is interested in the Trump administration’s policy agenda. That would be nonsensical, no?

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OnIowa@reddit

Tulsi Gabbard's 2020 platform

He's loyal to ideas, not parties.

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OuTiNNYC@reddit

You mean the guy who signed the ”Democratic Party Loyalty Pledge” in the 2020 Presidential Primary?

The pledge made Democrat Primary candidates agree to not run 3rd Party in the General after losing the Primary.

Then at the DNC he handed over his delegates to Hillary Clinton without getting anything in return.

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OnIowa@reddit

Touché. Tulsi Gabbard is a fraud, though.

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OuTiNNYC@reddit

There’s no evidence of that.

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OnIowa@reddit

Learn to read

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OuTiNNYC@reddit

I am well educated on the career of Tulsi Gabbard. And I can say the reason they began calling her a Putin puppet is bc she went on a fact finding mission in pursuit of peace to Syria and met with Assad against the WH administration’s wishes. Just like Nancy Pelosi made the exact same trip in 2007 against the administration’s wishes. After meeting with Assad, Pelosi came to the same conclusions Tulsi did. Pelosi wasnt called a Putin puppet then or anytime since. The administration’s fuss over Pelosi’s trip covered a full news cycle.

So that’s one example of how full of shit the media and

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OnIowa@reddit

beep boop looks like you forgot to copy and paste all the output into the response field beep boop

Here’s all the evidence again: https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/tulsi-gabbard/

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OuTiNNYC@reddit

Oh I can read. I even have critical reading skills- they are handy.

And I can say the reason they began calling Tulsi a Putin puppet is bc she went on a fact finding mission in pursuit of peace to Syria and met with Assad against the WH administration’s wishes. Just like Nancy Pelosi made the exact same trip in 2007 against the WH administration’s wishes. After meeting with Assad, Pelosi came to the same conclusions Tulsi did. Pelosi wasnt called a Putin puppet then or anytime since. The administration’s beef over Pelosi’s trip hardly covered a full news cycle.

And of course… HRC would have said anything to get back at Tulsi for blowing the whistle on her and the DNC for cheating.

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StingRae_355@reddit

It's hard to take seriously a guy who wants to be the populist voice of anti -establishment when he owns as many expensive homes around the country (bought with political $) as he does.

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SeasonsGone@reddit

He has a cabin in upstate Vermont, a home in Burlington and a home in DC. Every Senator has 2 homes as they live in 2 places. When the establishment is literal gold toilets and Manhattan sky scrapers, he’s very much not part of it lol

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plsobeytrafficlights@reddit

thats sad. they showed the inside of his house and he still uses VHS and old CRT TVs. dude is not an oligarch.

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StingRae_355@reddit

nor did I say he was. I said what I said. He's a bureaucratic shill just like all the others he tries to criticize, and I can't support a phony. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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iamanewyorker@reddit

I am disgusted by this, I understand if he could not go against his party so why not just abstain and say present…everyone knows she had his back and can understand him abstaining as his vote was not changing anything anyway…they had all the votes needed.

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SeasonsGone@reddit

Is it possible he has consistent reservations about her holding this position? Everyone’s saying he’s supposed to support her because she supported him as if that’s how any of this is actually supposed to work… why would we want that to be the case?

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Opposite_Witness7823@reddit

The Tulsi that had has back was a different Tulsi. Back then she wanted universal healthcare and most of the things the Dems always talk about and now she’s MAGA. Why would he support something he works against?

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Additional-Emu9570@reddit

maybe cause her position had nothing to do with those issues?

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leenis@reddit

it's almost as if she's a completely different person now than she was in 2016

y'all are something else

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OuTiNNYC@reddit

Wow, what a pu**sy.

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OnAScaleFrom711to911@reddit

Bernie is a coward.

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empathy73@reddit

Bernie is a narcissistic void without integrity and without working emotional empathy. Bernie spouts empathic talking points to get attention For Himself to prop up his ego void with narcissistic supply.

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Brockoli13@reddit

Bernie is a lying fraud and proves it over and over again🤥

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workitloud@reddit

Another reason she dumped the D. Bernie rewarded her loyalty with a shiv to the ribs.

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Opposite_Witness7823@reddit

She wasn’t loyal. She dropped Bernie and interviewed for Trump back in 2016 and then said the only reason she supported Bernie was to keep Hillary out

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Opposite_Witness7823@reddit

Tulsi is a grifter for sure. I met her back in 2015 and she was stumping for Bernie and talking up socialism. I was shocked that she had an interview with the White House the week after Trump got in back in 2016.

Then last year she tried to say she never supported Bernie for his politics her support was only to keep Hillary out. She scrubbed her Facebook and Twitter and pretends like she never went hard for Bernie. She’s an opportunist and a pretty dumb one at that, it’s kinda horrifying thinking of her in this position

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newportbeach75@reddit

Bernie is all talk and no action.

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austex34@reddit

Bernie is like Biden. A yes man with no moral code.

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jstohler@reddit

Love ya Bernie.

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duchamp_urinal@reddit

Bernie is a piece of shit. I realized this in 2016 when he bent over for the dnc and then campaigned for Hillary.

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patdashuri@reddit

This whole post and the comments are all predicated on purchased loyalty. It’s gross. And it’s anti democracy.

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Aconyminomicon@reddit

This sub is compromised by bots since Tulsi is trying to be the HEAD OF ALL THE SECRET USA INFO. She grew up in a cult, has been grifting her whole life, and Bernie is just telling how it is. Everyone in Hawaii has turned on her.

Tulsi has done good things but she is very sus (secret meetings with dictators) and in no way fit for head of the security FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

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Which-Supermarket-69@reddit

I don’t agree with you, therefore you are a bot

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Aconyminomicon@reddit

Why are both of us immediately downvoted when we don't agree? Bots my brother/sister. Bots all up in this sub.

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VetGranDude@reddit

Bernie, despite the rhetoric in his tweets, has always been a good, loyal DNC soldier - even after they screwed him twice. It's his fatal flaw. He will never make more than tiny ripple in American history. That requires a spine.

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Robin-Lewter@reddit

Fatal flaw? He went from a relatively unknown, lower middle class senator to a multi millionaire in a few short years. He knew what he was doing and he did it well.

Bernie won. The people who ever believed in him are the ones that got screwed.

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Npl1jwh@reddit

No Tulsi’s a sell out MAGA shill…people change and or can’t hide their true colors forever.

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andrejean1983@reddit

Obviously because she’s not the same politician she was back in 2016, completely different talking points now.https://www.civilbeat.org/2024/12/tulsi-gabbard-through-the-years-what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been/

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unperson_1984@reddit

This article says a whole lot of nothing. What has changed other than D to R?

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Dbro92@reddit

I liked the picture from the No DAPL protests. Now she stands behind Trump saying "drill baby, drill!"

Also anti gay stance, to top rating with progressive analysts regarding LGBT rights, back to writing the bill to ban trans athletes.

Quite the political awaking to have in your 40s.

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andrejean1983@reddit

Here’s an article about when Tulsi called Trump ‘Saudi Arabia’s bitch’ and now she’s serving in his Cabinet!! The only possible conclusion you can draw from this ONE anecdote is that she’s a political hack. And everything she’s EVER said or WILL say can’t be trusted.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna939011

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Aconyminomicon@reddit

This is literally one of the best local Hawaiian media outlets. They have been following Tulsi's career from almost the beginning. How could you say this has no substance, or has "nothing" as you so eloquently put it?

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

How much have they been receiving from USAID?

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psian1de@reddit

People that criticize news outlets by saying how much have they been receiving from USAID are using talking points from the new deep state.

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

omg lol

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Platpharm@reddit

It could be the best Hawaiian journalist with all the awards or a third grader writing a blog, it doesn't matter. The content of the article is the content of the article regardless of who wrote it.

This article is the typical low-substance, trust-me piece trying to erode confidence in a political opponent.

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Which-Supermarket-69@reddit

That’s basically it. People don’t care to look past that

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andrejean1983@reddit

Oh give me a break… If you can’t see the differences, I’m not going to spell them out for you and fall in to some stupid argument about semantics. Grow up

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mikeyzee52679@reddit

I wonder who changed her or Bernie sanders? Well we know who changed

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Premodonna@reddit

This was before she became a Russian operative.

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

Way to regurgitate Hillary's attack line after Tulsi nuked her puppet of choice from the 2020 election.

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Premodonna@reddit

Keep telling yourself that. 😆🤣

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Shadowtalon@reddit

oh hey thanks for getting this to my feed to remind me to unsubscribe from this subreddit

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

k byeee

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Sithlordandsavior@reddit

Let's be real though, these comments were made nearly a decade ago and 5 years ago. There has been a dramatic shift in not just his party but politics as a whole. His opinion changing in 9 years is not that crazy

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ITS_MILLER_TIME_62@reddit

While I agree it's not crazy for him to shift his opinions, (We should be able to admit when we are wrong or misinformed) I don't think his take on Tulsi's qualifications for the DNI position is valid. He's likely parroting what the DNC wants. Behind closed doors he likely supports her as a smart and capable woman.

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

It simply demonstrates that he has no integrity.

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Sithlordandsavior@reddit

Have you changed any opinions on politicians in that time? Colleagues?

I don't like Bernie for a number of reasons but people change their opinions all the time based on the context they're evaluating things in. You don't have to stick hardline to any one philosophy your whole life. If these were, say, 3 days before the hearing, I'd think he's his typical brand of dumb, but this was years ago. Think about how much the world has changed in 2024 alone.

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ZEDYourMama@reddit

Wow, a whole sub of DOGEbots. Amazing.

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plsobeytrafficlights@reddit

they even use the same words, as if it were scripted

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

Everyone you disagree with is a bot.

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therin_88@reddit

Bernie is a partisan hack in reality.

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plsobeytrafficlights@reddit

she sold out and got called out. how is that on him?

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Aconyminomicon@reddit

He is literally calling out Tulsi for this exact thing. Which one of them has switched from blue to red? Bot account, this sub is full of them.

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plsobeytrafficlights@reddit

thing about sanders, he always ends on the right side of history. if he says she has lost her way, we should listen.

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HokieFan10@reddit

This should tell you how unqualified for that position she is. Why not nominate her for something she knows about, like Secretary of the Army.

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PolishBandit33@reddit

No good deed goes unpunished

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pomcq@reddit

I think Tulsi is mostly a grifter but she’s much better on this stuff than everyone else in politics. The fact that Bernie voted for Rubio but against her is pretty stupid

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WashedMasses@reddit (OP)

She's the extreme minority of politicians with actual principles and integrity.

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