RTX 5090 - Black screen issues
Posted by zpinto1234@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 1276 comments
Hi,
I've acquired an RTX 5090 Gaming Trio yesterday. I tried running 3DMark Time Spy and I have the weirdest problem. When the loading bar finishes, the screen goes into full screen color red, and keeps cycling through blue, white, green, black and red again, non-stop, while the benchmark is still running in the background. And then it stops and shows the loading for the next test (Graphics test 1, Graphics test 2 and CPU test).
Is this a problem with the GPU? The monitor? Might it be the cable?
When it reaches the CPU test, it actually runs just fine.
In the end I get the result where the Graphics Score is like 50 points.
My Specs: RTX 5090 Ryzen 7900X 64GB DDR5 - 6000Mhz@CL32 Corsair HX1500i
It runs the Steel Nomad test and Fire Strike just fine.
EDIT: It also happens with Fire Strike. Sometimes it works, and lots of times it doesn't and just starts blinking different colors. Is my GPU faulty?
Update 1: Changing to PCIe 4.0 did not fix the problem.
Update 2: Tried the Adapter that came with it (was using the Corsair 12VHPWR cable), and the problem remains. It seems like I'm not the only one having these issues. The color changing screen is probably just my monitor going into Test mode because the GPU stops working correctly. For other users, it might just be a black screen, which is something that also happens constantly.
Maybe we should reach out to GamersNexus, as I feel like this problem is going to happen to a lot of RTX 5090 owners. x)
Update 3: I've tried everything, from disabling resize bar, GPU schedulling, loading bios defaults on everything... Nothing fixed the issue. Games take a bit longer until they throw the black screen. 3dMark Nomad always works fine... Have no idea what to try next.
Update 4: tested 1 stick of RAM in all of the slots, and the problem persists. I'm done. This doesn't look like software issue, I think my card is faulty.
Update 5: I counted 8 users that have this issue right now. Since so few RTX 5090 were sold, it makes sense to consider this a widespread issue right now.
Soyolayano@reddit
Now i was Running my 5090 FE on following RIG: Asus z790-I Gaming Wifi 14900K 64 GB Corsair Ram Every time i start a Game, it works for 10 min, then Artifacts, Screen Blinks, Black Screen, sound runs for couple seconds, then sometimes system restarts, sometimes it crashes. Everytime a different szenario. So i thought it might be the Rams, so i exchanged the rams. Same issue. Then i thought it me be intel. So i bought an Asus x870 i with a 9800x3D. it got even worse. Games run only for 1-2 minutes, then Crash. Now i even get crashes in Windows (Black screen). Note: When swapping the system i did a Win11 clean install again. Always installed the latest driver 572.75. System runs with an AIO and Card always runs around 71-79 degrees. No undervolting, all stock values. Bios Default. Tried PCIE Gen5, Gen4, Gen3. No Riser Cable. All always connected to HDMI on my LG Oled TV (Thats my couch rig). All drivers up to date, windows 11 up to date. Reseated the Card several Times, kept my Case open for better airflow. This issue is killing me. Paid a huge Price for the card. Sold my 4090, where i had no issues whatsoever. Now my Rig is standing in the corner. Shall i RMA the card? Even though, im sure ill have the same issue again probably? Wait for a new Driver? Is there a Bios update i can Perform? i really dont know. All Rops are availble, no missing Robs. Driver was freshly installed on a new Windows, never upgraded. Im freaking out Nvidia!
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I'd definitely exchange it for another model. Still, there's a chance the other one might also have these issues. It's russian roulette at this moment. And there's also the issue with stock, so finding another one might not be so easy.
Soyolayano@reddit
In my mini ITX case (Corsair 2000D) I’m pretty limited with the choice of 5090s. FE is the only possible thing for me. Should have kept my 4090…
Extension-Border5522@reddit
Hi, for me I have a 5090 and Windows 24/7, I've always had black screens since the beginning even with PCIe Gen 4 or any other alternative, since the 572.75 I can use two screens, one on DP and the other on HDMI, but limited to 60 images per second on both monitors as soon as I go beyond that it's a guaranteed crash. I hope the next driver will solve this problem.
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
Hello,
Can we have the brand of your 5090 please ?
Arthoid@reddit
I had a 5090 working without issues for a week or so, using Monitor Profile Switcher to switch between my IPS and my OLED (gaming only) monitor. I basically have hotkeys to switch between "only IPS" to "IPS + OLED" or "only OLED", and everything worked flawlesly as with my previous GPU.
But yesterday, out of nowhere, changing from "only IPS" to "only OLED" directly started giving me crazy black screen flickers anytime I moved the mouse, minimized or maximized any app. I'm using 360 Hz and 10 bit in general.
The workaround that so far works fine is to manually use the Windows display manager, change to "IPS + OLED" and then to "only OLED", instead of using the Monitor Profile Switcher app to directly switch between them.
For some reason, doing the extra step and using the display manager works perfectly fine, the OLED becomes stable, no flickers, as it used to be. BUT, if I use the MPS to do the same sequence, it gives me flickers again....
I think it has something to do with color profiles or similar, Windows goes crazy with the driver trying to apply color profiles to each monitor, mixes up stuff and breaks completely... I suspect this because in general, when I have flickers on the OLED, it also looks more washed out, as if the setting to "Automatically control colors on apps" (or similar) was turned ON, and I always have that shit OFF.
I am on 572.70, have not dared to try 572.75 yet but maybe I will in the next days....
This shit is so frustrating, I was free of problems and all of a sudden here we go.
Extension-Border5522@reddit
Hi, I have a 5090 and Windows 24/7. I've always had black screens since the beginning, even with PCIe Gen 4 or any other alternative. Since the 572.75, I can use two screens, one on DP and the other on HDMI, but I'm limited to 60 frames per second on both monitors. As soon as I go beyond that, it's guaranteed to crash. I hope the next driver will solve this problem. I have an OLED display.
pragmatick@reddit
I have a 5080 Solid OC and even with 572.75 I get black screens all the time. But only on HDMI, never on DP. The video comes back after a second or two. This happened on my 3080 sometimes but usually like once a day.
It never crashes, though, so I'm not sure if this is the same issue.
Extension-Border5522@reddit
Hi, for me I have a 5090 and Windows 24/7, I've always had black screens since the beginning even with PCIe Gen 4 or any other alternative, since the 572.75 I can use two screens, one on DP and the other on HDMI, but limited to 60 images per second on both monitors as soon as I go beyond that it's a guaranteed crash. I hope the next driver will solve this problem.
Mops_Vasya@reddit
RTX 5080 Astral OC, I7-10700K, Z490 Aorus Ultra.
The following symptoms: In online games like War Thunder, there is severe latency (mouse stuttering), making it impossible to play. In Cyberpunk and other games, I can play for a maximum of 10-15 minutes before the computer completely freezes, requiring a forced reboot.
At the same time, I ran FurMark and Prime95 simultaneously, and everything worked fine—temperatures and voltages were normal. Previously, I had a GTX 1070 Strix installed, and there were no issues.
I've tried all possible solutions, even lowering the frequency to 2550, but nothing has helped.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Have you tried the hotfix that was released yesterday? 572.75
Mops_Vasya@reddit
Yes, I installed it today. The situation hasn't changed at all
Mops_Vasya@reddit
It got even worse — now a black screen appears in games, and the system restarts
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
BIG UPDATE: I'm pretty confident I found out the issue and how to fix it (with a caveat).
The issue is caused by having your monitor refresh rate above 60hz!
I have my monitors at 144hz.
I disconnected one of them and set the refresh rate to 60hz, and now everything works fine.
I'm guessing this is a Driver issue.
Please try this and let me know if it fixes your black screen/crashing problems.
If it does work, comment here and spread the word, as we need NVIDIA to be aware of this issue ASAP!
Friendly-Poetry-7697@reddit
You totally saved me with this. After 8 hours of troubleshooting, turned refresh down to 60 and voila! THANK YOU!
DdaaHeining@reddit
What can i say. This is it. I just ran a full batch of 4K AI Image generation and it worked like a charm. @zpinto1234 What a day we had huh? Let me buy you a Beer!
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Hehe, now let's just hope this reaches NVIDIA, so they can quickly fix this issue.
What a day!
Zirkoz@reddit
So for me speedway doesn't crash anymore too but I have black screen flashing. We're into something! And last time it crashed my monitor said OUT OF RANGE so it's really refresh rate related !
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The fix only works on Windows 10 up to Windows 11 23h2. The problem persists with Windows 11 24h2!!
Microsoft and NVIDIA need to fix this ASAP.
Kemaro@reddit
Just FYI I have gaming trio OC 5090 and 24H2 and the 60hz fix works fine for me. Black screens at 120hz, works fine at 60hz. LG C2 42", 9800x3d, asrock x870e nova wifi. GPU Scheduling enabled, rebar enabled, etc.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, that comment is outdated. The 4@60hz works on always windows versions, as long as only 1 monitor is plugged in. Some users can get it working with multiple monitors connected though, it seems.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So it's not a definite fix, it seems. Then there's definitely something else for scenarios like yours.
When I changed the refresh rate to 60hz, I did a clean install of Windows of version 23h2 and I didn't let Windows update to 24h2, using rufus, which allows you to skip the "connect to the internet" step in the installation process. (So that it doesn't update windows) I also disabled the iGPU in the BIOS. I only installed the AMD chipset drivers and the NVIDIA hotfix driver that came out yesterday, nothing else. Disabled all monitors except 1.
You can always try those things.
DdaaHeining@reddit
Also for the record. 1 Monitor 7680x2160@60Hz. Worked for a user in a Forum i am part of. We are getting closer guys.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Which version of Windows 11 do you have? I just went back to 24h2 (which I had cloned), and setting the refesh rate to 60hz does not fix the issue and the black screens continue to happen.
In this cloned windows, I have way more software and hardware drivers installed though.
DdaaHeining@reddit
We are running Windows 10.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Ah!!
So the issue is probably from Windows 24h2!!
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So, I went back to my previous Windows instalation of 24h2 (which I had cloned), and setting the monitor refresh rate to 60hz still causes the issue (black screen). This might mean that the issue is also related to Windows 24h2...
FlounderTop84@reddit
Ya it seems refresh rate related. I thought it was my outdated cord but nope. Getting crashes, screen tears/ artifacts. Restarting sometimes fixes it. Im in the same boat. Brand new pc. Lags at startup when opening windows.
PitifulBug7492@reddit
I have had the same problem with my RTX 5080, thanks to your advice, I have been able to play on the weekend, simply limiting the monitors, even with the GPU sending 240 Hz, it does not fail!
PitifulBug7492@reddit
AccomplishedLoan6252@reddit
So I have been live chatting with nvidia customer support and one potential solution was to go in NVidia control pannel, manage 3d settings and under global settings turn low latency mode to ultra and vertical sync to off also ensure you have power management mode on prefer maximum performance. After changing those settings, the problem appeared to happen less often and I managed to run time spy extreme on my 5090 which always black screened before. However, it did black screen when trying to run 3rd time so it doesn't appear to be a perma fix just something to try.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, for me the only 100% temporary fix is to just plug 1 single monitor to a DP port and set the resolution to a maximum of 4k@95hz. With this configuration, I can play anything and run any benchmarks without issues.
plex36O@reddit
Still black screening while on the windows Home Screen : https://imgur.com/a/JPWxxU1
Friendly-Poetry-7697@reddit
Similar thing happening to me. New build. I can get past Windows with gpu removed, but as soon as it's installed, I get stuck on home screen, then it flashes some purple screens and goes black. Did you manage to fix yours?
plex36O@reddit
It’s only manger to fix a little bit but it’s cart random sometimes I can run my computer for a little while without it black screening and sometimes it black screens after 5 min
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
did you ddu uninstall and use 572.65 drivers
plex36O@reddit
I did but today I Installed the new 572.70 will see if that works
Glum-Following-7946@reddit
whats your gpu?
cardboardlights@reddit
My 5090 Astral is also crashing but i have 2 kinds of crashes:
The screen turns black, but PC is still running and I can hear audio from whatever game I am playing. After say 10 seconds or so, the PC auto restarts itself.
The screen turns black, and all programs stop running. No audio heard on speakers. GPU crash dumps and starts spinning at (what I assume to be) 100% fan speed and it becomes very loud. Situation does not resolve itself and I have to do a manual reset.
I run a dual monitor set up. PC was just built, running AMD 7 9800X3D on a Gigabyte Auros X870E, 64GB of RAM and 2 SSD storages. No way this is a usage issue.
So far limiting my refresh rate to 60 Hz and FPS to 60FPS has helped prevent the crashes, but I am wondering what exactly is the issue and I have been pushing limits myself.
What has not helped:
- Uninstalling my AMD 7 9800X3D's iGPU with DDU.
- Swapping HDMI wires with DP wires, and vice versa.
- Updating graphic drivers on Nvidia app.
- Undervolting
- Reducing image quality of games
I am at my wits end. I just want to play Monster Hunter Wilds on a decent FPS which is not 60.
Kemaro@reddit
Can you post the error you are getting from the windows event viewer? Also are you running any sort of overclock/undervolt/pbo on your 9800x3d? I would also recommend running memtest86+ to make sure your ram is stable.
cardboardlights@reddit
There is no Error registered immediately before the crashes. Immediately after restarting the PC after the crash, I get the following errors:
- CRITICAL: The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
- ERROR: Error setting traits on Provider {8444a4fb-d8d3-4f38-84f8-89960a1ef12f}. Error: 0xC0000001
Checking RAM now... Will update again...
Kemaro@reddit
As a test, can you remove ALL USB devices from your PC and run a game? Obviously you will probably at least need a mouse to get a game running but after the game is running, just remove the USB device(s) and see if you can reproduce a crash. That error you are seeing is one typically associated with a faulty USB device.
This could also be caused by electrical issues with either your powerstrip, outlet, or break box. The power draw of your system is going to be significantly higher than any previous GPU you have owned so you could simply be getting lower quality power (meaning the actual sine waves being malformed/improperly paced) if any hop in the power chain is being overloaded.
cardboardlights@reddit
Did that and yes the crash happened. All I did was to increase my FPS to 120, let my friend hit a boss in Monster Hunter Wilds while I stood at the edge of the fight area after disconnecting my USB connections.
Am now going to decrease FPS back to 60 which seems to me like the only workable solution.
My 1200W power supply is brand new (opened last month) and is ATX 3.0 certified. There is definitely enough headroom in the power supply so I dont think it's a power supply issue. I also don't smell any burning as I have been sniffing the outlets of my case quite a lot after the 5090FE burning issues surfaced, but the Astral doesnt seem to have any of such problems because it has a monitoring function for how much power is flowing through each sub-cable.
I am wondering if it could be a compatibility issue between my ultrawide monitor (49" Samsung Odessey G9 OLED) but I read that people have been hooking up 57" Samsung Neos to their 5090s and havent been facing the same issues.
Kemaro@reddit
I’m not talking about PSU, I mean the literal power in your house. Try a different outlet with ONLY your pc plugged in to it and nothing else and try turning off anything else in that room that might be using power that isn’t essential to using your PC. If you are using a power strip, by pass that temporarily and just plug the PC into the wall directly. Other peripherals can stay plugged into a power strip if needed
Aleiacta@reddit
I was having a simiular issue to your first one, tho mine wouldnt reboot. My issue was solved by setting the Power settings to Maximum Performance in the 3D Configuration in Control Panel. It solved my crashes and also some flickerings I was having after I went to DP 2.1. I have a 5090 Aorus Master.
cardboardlights@reddit
Didnt work for me, unfortunately...
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
A lot of people still have issues, unfortunately. My recommendation, if you're still able, is to return the GPU to the store, and get another one from another brand (maybe even an Astral), to see if things change. Of course, taking into consideration the stock situation, getting another one is not easy.
A possible better temporary solution would be to lower your clock from -250hz to -500hz, and that way you can still play games without having to lower your refresh rate to 60hz. At least until NVIDIA finally fixes all these issues, which might be a while to be honest.
maverickviiii@reddit
Update: I tried -500 downclock for 2 weeks without any crashes and -400 for 1 week without any crashes. Yesterday, I selected the “Clean Install” option to install Nvidia 572.60 drivers. Since then, I have been using the default +500 overclock and have not experienced any crashes. So I think everything is fixed now. More details on my YouTube video which is the most popular video on this issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDhY8ajU3a4
Glum-Following-7946@reddit
whats your gpu?
maverickviiii@reddit
MSI 5090 trio OC
Glum-Following-7946@reddit
whats your gpu?
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
After encouraging reports here I reinstalled my RTX 5090 Gainward Phantom, and there seems to be no problems with speedway 3dmark on 120hz with multiple monitors plugged and PCIE 5.0, but this is the first day of my usage so I haven't had the time to long term use the card for any signs of instability. But until then I consider the problem fixed for the majority of people. I hope this helps future readers of this topic to decide on their purchase of RTX 50 series. Cheers and tyvm for everyone who helped.
Ok_Elderberry_8151@reddit
Ang updates on this? Had my 5080 yesterday, started running some games (mh wilds, cyberpunk, bmw) black screen then fans at full blast.
Kemaro@reddit
What driver are you on? And does your card have VBIOS update available from the manufacturer?
No_Recipe6954@reddit
5090 Astral OC here and I have the crashes too. Likely an error on VBIOS, nvidia drivers or simply bad chips coming out of NVIDIA to the card partners.
cardboardlights@reddit
My 5090 Astral is also crashing but i have 2 kinds of crashes:
The screen turns black, but PC is still running and I can hear audio from whatever game I am playing. After say 10 seconds or so, the PC auto restarts itself.
The screen turns black, and all programs stop running. No audio heard on speakers. GPU crash dumps and starts spinning at (what I assume to be) 100% fan speed and it becomes very loud. Situation does not resolve itself and I have to do a manual reset.
I run a dual monitor set up. PC was just built, running AMD 7 9800X3D on a Gigabyte Auros X870E, 64GB of RAM and 2 SSD storages. No way this is a usage issue.
So far limiting my refresh rate to 60 Hz and FPS to 60FPS has helped prevent the crashes, but I am wondering what exactly is the issue and I have been pushing limits myself.
What has not helped:
- Uninstalling my AMD 7 9800X3D's iGPU with DDU.
- Swapping HDMI wires with DP wires, and vice versa.
- Updating graphic drivers on Nvidia app.
- Undervolting
- Reducing image quality of games
I am at my wits end. I just want to play Monster Hunter Wilds on a decent FPS which is not 60.
No_Recipe6954@reddit
Here is what I did that fixed mine. This is prior to the newest driver update and it fixed my issues. Use Revo uninstaller. Uninstall all Nvidia programs, anything named Nvidia period, and Physx and the Nvidia audio driver. Uninstall each one at a time and when prompted search for hidden files and registries hit the scan button, when it returns results hit select all and delete, and then do it again on the next screen too. Repeat until all programs, registry files, etc are gone, then reboot and reinstall nvidia driver. Seems DDU and even nvidias cleaner app cant remove all the hidden files and one of them was causing my issue. Doing this fixed mine and runs awesome now even after their latest update.
cardboardlights@reddit
I tried this and it didnt work.
After uninstalling using Revo, and reinstalling all drivers, I went into Nvidia Control Panel and set my max FPS to 240 because my main monitor runs on 240Hz and there is no point having my FPS spike above 240.
Ran Marvel Rivals on recommended settings and my GPU just crash dumped itself. Fans started spinning madly and I had to do a manual reset of my PC.
I hate this.....
cardboardlights@reddit
Do i have to reinstall my iGPU driver for this? I am guessing if my iGPU is already uninstalled and if I uninstall Nvidia there would be no GPU driver available for any graphic output.
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
out of curiosity, you have all 176 ROPs?
No_Recipe6954@reddit
Yes. And I have good silicone one. Got #8 spot in the world on some benchmarks with the GPU, CPU and RAM at stock settings.
Crashes are random in demanding task. Several benchmarks can run with no issues, ie steel Nomad, Speedway, Superposition, etc but run Timespy Extreme and it crashes on test 2 or run Wukong outside of the benchmark and it crashes. Cyberpunk can run for about 10 minutes before crashing. No errors in the event viewer. When it crashes screen blacks out, gpu still runs and has power draw according to my GPU Viewer PRO and its RGB is on and the RAM RGB works but the case fans, RGB and motherboard all stop and I have to power it all back on.
Himuo@reddit
What do you mean "good silicone one" ? i've seen the ROP issues, but what about the silicone ?
No_Recipe6954@reddit
Just like the silicone in a CPU, ie the "silicone lottery" for overclocking some are better than others. IE my old 14900K was a 126 SP but the average 14900K was a 107SP so mine overclocked much higher and my 4090 Tuf was superior to my 4090 Strix. My 5090 Astral seems to have a very good GPU die hence on stock settings it doing so well in the benchmarks versus other 5090 Astrals. So if they fix the driver issues and I water block it it is very likely I can get very high overclocks that are stable and eek out more FPS and higher benchmark scores than the average Astral.
Himuo@reddit
Ok thank you, I didn't know about that, good to know
No_Recipe6954@reddit
Also noticed less than one-second spikes of 730watts twice since I got it according to the Debauer Wireview Pro. However cables have never gotten hot and the Astral notifies me that they are all connected properly and GPU temps have never gone above 62.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Well, it seems like all AIBs are affected then. I just don't understand why some have issues and others not. I can only think of hardware defect.
I replaced my Gaming Trio RTX 5090 (black screens/crashes), with an ASTRAL RTX 5090, and I no longer have issues. It's just so weird...
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Probably tied to silicone, so not really hardware just sensitive to something really precise.
Neven076@reddit
Personnaly yes, i have.
AdAwkward2566@reddit
So this means all of the aibs are affected by the blackscreen. Hopefully it will be fixed by a driver or vbios update. I have aorus master 5090 and i dont get blackscreen doing benchmark ie steel nomad, port royal, speedway, timespy extreme. Games like cod3, dota, battlefield 2042, avowed helldivers all are working at max settings. The only time i get blackscreen is when i play resident evil village, battlefield 5 when ray tracing is on or the monster hunter benchmark.
Kemaro@reddit
Anyone else still getting no signal for a while when waking from sleep or booting up/rebooting pc? Sometimes it takes 1-2 minutes before my display actually gets a video signal, other times it is immediate as I would expect it to be.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Have you tried the new hotfix drivers?
Kemaro@reddit
Seems like 572.65 has (so far at least) fixed the issue for me even though I use HDMI.
Kemaro@reddit
Nah didn’t try them since it says it fixed display port and not hdmi which I use
KingKeqing@reddit
new MSI RTX 5090 Trio Gaming vBios Update fixed the Blackscreen problem! how to get that? download "MSI Center" > Open "MSI Center" > click on "Support" > click on "Live Update" > click on "advanced search" > click "Y" > restart your Computer > use DDU > install newest driver from nvidia > fix
Ok-Object-3026@reddit
I got a 5090 Vanguard SOC and I did every single step you have typed down for us but still have the black screen problem, saddly.
This is my setup:
9800x3d
5090 Vanguard SOC
ASUS pro art 870E
Samsung 49 OLED 5120 X 1440 240hz.
plex36O@reddit
Still black screening on my 5080 FE with the new 572.60 driver
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
There's a new hotfix, can always give it a try. 572.65
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/558860/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-57265-released-22/
plex36O@reddit
Still black screening on 5080 FE
plex36O@reddit
Thanks for the link
Neven076@reddit
Special thanks to u/SomenoneNoteFamous and u/zpinto1234 who have tried to help us in this issue.
I hope the troubles are behind us but also that i will have to deal with you next time!
maverickviiii@reddit
Doing this fixed it for me https://youtu.be/NDhY8ajU3a4?si=YO8XwIy46cWl9LSv
maverickviiii@reddit
Update: I tried -500 downclock for 2 weeks without any crashes and -400 for 1 week without any crashes. Yesterday, I selected the “Clean Install” option to install Nvidia 572.60 drivers. Since then, I have been using the default +500 overclock and have not experienced any crashes. So I think everything is fixed now. More details on my YouTube video which is the most popular video on this issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDhY8ajU3a4
Slider_Override@reddit
MSI Center has a vBios rom for the MSI cards which fix the issue
Brief-Imagination-79@reddit
Will it fix the problem if I update via MSI VBIOS for my 3060?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Some users in this thread already reported that the new BIOS decreased the black screen occurrences, but it still happens to them, just not as often.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yeah the rest is purely drivers issues, no issues at all of you stay with .41.
CoLoRnK@reddit
Still happening for me after Vbios update but in the process I did install the latest nvidia drivers. I’ll try the .41 drivers
Neven076@reddit
Yep, since i've install the .41, i played many hours to Avowed without any problem (~150fps in max settings).
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You still get the system lockup blackscreens ?
Slider_Override@reddit
Currently for me all works fine since the vBios update, crossing the fingers that it stay
Kemaro@reddit
572.60 is out now
https://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/572.60/572.60-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
if anyone can download and test this driver it'd be great, pref with different brands
Kemaro@reddit
Well I have it installed but my blackscreen issue was already resolved by a vbios update msi released earlier this week for my gaming trio oc 5090.
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
maybe ideally someone with gigabyte, palit, gainward etc.
Kyaru_k@reddit
On my Palit 5080 Gamerock OC, the issue remained after the driver update:(
Neven076@reddit
u/Kemaro Thanks, i will test the driver when i will succeed to download it. Impossible now, the nvidia's server fuck up...
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
You should be able to download the driver from their website: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/241091/
Seems the Nvidia App server is shitting the bed
Neven076@reddit
I am proud to say you i haven't any crash / blackscreen with the new drivers 🎉🎉 (with my Inno3d's 5090).
TimePsy x3 + TimePsy extrême + Stalker 2 + Avowed + Return to Windows in game.
Max clock : 2925Mhz max Memory : 14001Mhz max GPU use : 100%
Finaly...
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yoo mhw DLSS4 native ??
justinianoo@reddit
BIG
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
572.60 and VBios update on my MSI 5090 Gaming Trio OC is working flawlessly.
No blackscreens on heavliy modded cyberpunk with everything set to max + Path Tracing.
All of the others games are running fine too.
UnL1k3@reddit
No more black screens with the 572.60 driver. Crysis 3 remastered which would instantly black screen is now rock solid. Boosting to well past my stock factory OC though, hitting 3kMhz with ease and my card now benches 9.68k stock which is much improved performance with no OC. Nearing 10K with no black screening or crashing with a slight OC with temps not even touching 70c, what a turn around!
link_chi@reddit
That's great to hear! I also updated to the new 572.60 driver for my Aero and I'm no longer crashing or having screen flickering when loading in my Cyberpunk saved file. Will do a gaming session later today and see if everything is still stable.
UnL1k3@reddit
Let's go! If you have 3Dmark, run a stress test.
backfire7098@reddit
Updated to 572.60 (clean install) and latest AMD driver. I did a quick test and I have passed Time Spy Extreme with Gainward Phantom RTX5090 without black screen or crash (I could pass only using .41 beta driver).
Full specs: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X MSI MAG B550 64GB DDR4 RAM @ 3200Mhz Gainward Phantom RTX 5090 (my motherboard supports PCI 4.0) Samsung Oddysey 4K @240Hz connected over DisplayPort
I’ll update when I can test with CyberPunk 2077 (which was problematic before)
mkdew@reddit
Hey. Can you use your Astral with two monitors at 144hz without crashing?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes. I have 2 x 4k@144hz, plus a TV@4k@120hz
mkdew@reddit
How are the vram temps at idle? Does the vram still run at max clock with multiple high refresh rate displays even on GDDR7?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
At idle, it's 40ºC on the core, and 52ºC in the memory.
The memory does not stay at max, at least in my setup with 2 x 4k@144hz.
Now, I've always had Prefer Maximum performance, in the power management mode in the NVIDIA settings, and yesterday I changed to "Normal", to allow the GPU to idle (it does not idle when in maximum performance mode), and now I see my monitors showing bottom half flickering, when looking at my desktop...
mkdew@reddit
Thanks. I found other having desktop screen flicker too, good to know that maximum performance mode can be used as workaround.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So, it was actually nothing to do with Power management mode.
The issue happens when I set my monitors to 10bit of color.
If I set them to 8bit, the issue goes away.
shortyorc1@reddit
OK I got MSI Center and went to support l, live update, advance. So the MSI gaming trio OC the new bios is 162 and the current is 161. I'll post if it works. Wish me luck.
kyonashi@reddit
Let me know if it helps out!
shortyorc1@reddit
Haven't blacked screen so looking good.
kyonashi@reddit
I ran mines last night and got it all setup and so far so good! So I am looking good as well.
jamyjet@reddit
Did it help?
shortyorc1@reddit
Yes, I think so. I've been playing about 20 minutes and no black screen yet.
jamyjet@reddit
Latest drivers?
Kemaro@reddit
If it works, don’t forget to swap to silent mode bios and repeat process, unless you never plan on using silent bios I guess. Silent bios will be 172 instead of 162 in MSI center.
shortyorc1@reddit
Thank you for the heads up. I was about to uninstall MSI Center. Even though I never plan on using silent I'll still update it.
ramsito82@reddit
I have tried the new bios on 5090 suprim liquid, it seems to work a little better but sooner or later a black screen appears, now I run time spy extreme and speedway, but when I put assassins creed mirage or the monster hunter wilds benchmark the black screen appears.
Crayten@reddit
Looks like the problems on the 5090 Trio at least were fixed.
ametller@reddit
Same for me on my Suprim SOC :-(
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Well, and here was I thinking that this would be the end of the issues...
UnL1k3@reddit
Well, sh*t
ametller@reddit
Let's wait for the promised nvidia drivers...
Himuo@reddit
I can confirm after several hours of playing : no more black screen on latest official drivers after updating my 5090 MSI gaming trio with lastest vbios.
I dare not yet hope we can put this behind us, but so far so good.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Would you look at that, just needed a bios update :)
We knew this 2 days after this thread... But hey it's finally fixed.
UnL1k3@reddit
^ this
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
Hopefully 5080s get their VBIOS update soon
backfire7098@reddit
Hope other manufacturers follow MSI soon. At least we know that it is not hardware defect now.
bkkkkkk@reddit
I have an asus mobo and a palit gamerock 5090. Only thing that cured most of the black screen issue was setting refresh rate to 120hz and global vsync (with gsync) set to 116fps and avoiding huge fps increase settings like multi frame gen. I mostly avoid black screens except when I enter a particular open air area in cyberpunk phantom liberty where it keeps black screening there, and I had no issues for the previous 3 hours until I reached that area. other games are fine so far
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
Guys did anybody try the new NVFlash update for non MSI cards that don't have bios releases in their sites yet.
naadriis@reddit
It seems that a fix is available for MSI cards with an update through MSI Center.
For other brands Manuel from Nvidia in the forums wrote this:
"We will be releasing a new driver later this week which applies the same fix as the VBIOS update for GeForce RTX 5080/5090 series users who have not received a VBIOS update for their card yet."
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Watch it fucks with the vbios updated ones
naadriis@reddit
It was fine for me. Just had to reinstall nVidia driver afterwards.
Haven't had much time to test the higher clock speeds tho
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
I'm not seeing any MSI VBIOS update for my card, 5080 Suprim. I've just installed MSI Center for the very first time, then proceeded to navigate through Support -> Live Update -> Advanced. It did a system scan, then said that there are no updates available. Do I need to register my product? I feel like I shouldn't need to..
shortyorc1@reddit
I did not register my product. Maybe there isn't one yet for the 5080s.
mrgayfisher@reddit
Indeed also for suprim liquid new vbios and timespy extreme is now passed no black screen
AdAwkward2566@reddit
So no more black screen issue for benchmarking and gaming?
Kemaro@reddit
I only had them in benchmarks before and this bios completely resolved it
ramsito82@reddit
Can you upload with GPUz? Nothing happens to me, what region are you from?
mrgayfisher@reddit
Here you go https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/273989/273989
ramsito82@reddit
thank you very much!!!!! it works, can you also upload the gaming bios?
ramsito82@reddit
It's the silent version, can you update the gaming version?
ramsito82@reddit
Thanks, I'm going to try it
ametller@reddit
Is this vbios available in MSI Center? Doesn't appear for me.
ramsito82@reddit
Where are you from? In Spain it doesn't appear in msi center either
mrgayfisher@reddit
Ye msi center I will also upload gpu-z
ramsito82@reddit
yes please
Xavvir@reddit
MSI released a bios update for my 5090 Gaming trio that seems to have completely resolved my issue. Currently running 3d mark Port Royal/Speed Way benchmarks with zero crashes. Only game only I have tried so far is cyberpunk and it also has been stable for the last hour,. looks promising. I got the update through MSI center.
backfire7098@reddit
Can you post your voltage/clock curve with the new vbios? I am still waiting an update from Gainward, hope others publish an update soon too.
Kemaro@reddit
No changes to voltages or curve on my card. I compared before and after. As far as I can tell performance, thermals, and power usage are unchanged.
khaniku@reddit
MSI vbios update completely resolved the issue for me. No more black screens for my 5090 gaming trio
Kemaro@reddit
Has anyone tested the new VBIOS MSI released for the gaming trio OC 5090?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Didn't know there was a new VBIOS. Is there a link to the VBIOS? To see if it has release notes.
If someone does try it, let us all know if it fixes anything.
Kemaro@reddit
It's in MSI Center under the Support tab > LIve Update > Advanced. I am afraid to test it before I hear results from someone else lol.
shortyorc1@reddit
I don't have MSI Center. Does it have what fix is in it? I'm scared to do it too. When I get home I'll have to look on their website to see I can download it. MSI should be screaming that they have a fix. Instead, most of us will find out on a reddit thread. Thanks Kemaro!
Kemaro@reddit
It definitely fixed the issue for me. Just did back to back 20 run stress tests in speed way and time spy and both completed with no black screens while running at the max refresh rate of my panel. I updated both the silent and gaming mode bios using MSI center. It is smart enough to know which toggle you have selected and flash either the silent (v172) or gaming (v162).
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
You do have two BIOS, so if one gets screwed, I think you can just switch to the other one and flash the "broken" one, right?
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah it has a silent and gaming bios switch. I've actually never done a VGA bios flash before so I am honestly not sure how it works
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Nowadays its like installing a small Driver. I just updated my Astral BIOS the other day, and it it was literally double click, wait a few seconds, and done.
Kemaro@reddit
I am just wondering how it will know which bios I am toggled to. Like right now I am on the 'gaming' bios which has a more aggressive fan curve. If I flash this new bios will I have to do it again in the second bios called 'silent'? If I flashed both, would it know what speed to run the fans at? Without more info I am afraid to flash.
ametller@reddit
Can you post an screenshot of what appears in MSI Center?
Kemaro@reddit
https://imgur.com/a/QM6DpNA
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I think you need to select the one you want to flash. If you flash both with the same BIOS, I guess you'll end up with either both performance or quiet BIOS.
The MSI Center should be smart enough to flash the correct BIOS, I'd say.
Either way, look at what someone else just commented above, where they say they just updated and no longer have black screens ;)
Noftark@reddit
I tested the new vbios for the 5090 msi gaming trio, for now everything works perfectly.
No more black screen
shortyorc1@reddit
How did you get the VBIOS?? I cannot find it on their website.
Also, this is my 1st time doing a VBIOS does it have instructions on how to do it? Also did you do both silent and gaming bios? or you just do it once and done?
Kemaro@reddit
I think msi app will know which mode you are in (silent / gaming) and flash the correct vbios. You will have to do it twice, once for each
ametller@reddit
You have to do it through MSI Center app
ametller@reddit
Which version is the new bios? v172?
ramsito82@reddit
Can you tell me what version of BIOS it is?
No-Fun806@reddit
I have an Asus Astral 5090 and im having black screen issues when the pc is on sleep and having more of 60hz on refresh rate, it simply wont back on, setting the refresh rate to 60hz the pc works fine
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Ufff! It seems like we found someone with issues on an ASTRAL... I was not expecting this...
Do your games/benchmarks also give you black screens or crashes?
No-Fun806@reddit
While gaming i have no problems, Callisto Protocol, Diablo IV, Space Marine 2 some minor stutters but games run over 130fps without frame generator or dlss, LoL i played 2 games of 40mins each no problems, the issue cames when the screen goes black when im not using the pc (Screen Saver) or i put on sleep when the screen settings are over 60hz refresh rate and trying to turning on after pressing 8seconds the power button not guarantee that pc boots/Post
PC specs
Windows 11 23h2
MSI godlike x670E
Ryzen 9 7950X3D
96 GB RAM DDR5 Corsair Dominator Titanium at 6000mhz
Asus Astral 5090
Asus Thor 1600w PSU
kjlhkj2389@reddit
Hi! I have a MSI 5090 Gaming Trio OC but with the same MB, MSI godlike x670e, and having similar issues. I find disconnecting the displayport connector from the GPU and reconnecting wakes up the screen. I'm also getting a 00 error code on restarts. It seems it will only post on aa power on from it being fully off.
I installed the latest bios, 7D68v1G and still having issues.
No-Fun806@reddit
Sorry for late answer, i tried the drivers from jannunary 30rd and those works really fine, test it out
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
It's not the same issue tho, it's a known one since the first 5000 drivers (or even before ?).
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, the issue is the one around the monitors/PC sleeping, which is different than the gaming/benchmarks.
There are way too many different issues with NVIDIA GPUs right now. It's insane!
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Rushed drivers for rushed releases...
Probably going to get "better" in a few months.
No-Fun806@reddit
it is sad, there is no stock, they are higly overpriced, and with this issues
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Well your issue is alot better than others. Just by playing or doing benchmark they get blackscreen. Have you tried playing a that is heavy on the graphics and has ray tracing? I want to know if ray tracing is on and the games doesn’t crash.
No-Fun806@reddit
Callisto Protocol, All high with raytracing max settings 130fps without dlss or frame generation
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Thanks! I think the astral is thr most stable of all 5090s. Hopefully all these issue will be fixed with driver update or vbios.
Himuo@reddit
Does anyone have any news from Nvidia support or MSI/Asus, ect ?
The silence is really concerning...
ramsito82@reddit
Nobody says anything, they must be looking for the lost rops.
Crayten@reddit
Latest update I got from MSI today:
We are eager to solve this issue, and kindly please wait for a few more days if you still have the card in hand. Best Regards, MSI Technical Support Team"
Relevant-Radio-3860@reddit
Could you please provide a screen/any proof, in order to facilitate the communication with the support for all of us .. Thanks.
whoever12@reddit
New driver out today. No change for me. How did you contact MSI?
Crayten@reddit
Regular support formular on the MSI website.
whoever12@reddit
Thanks. May just return it and get an ASUS since they appear to not have the problem.
Crayten@reddit
If they were available to buy I would have already done so
whoever12@reddit
LOL, I contacted MSI support. They claimed they had not received widespread reports of the issue and mentioned nothing about working with NVIDIA or waiting for drivers updates, instead implying it sounds like a PSU problem.
What a mess.
Crayten@reddit
No idea which MSI support you contacted but this is the last message I got from the ticket:
whoever12@reddit
Based on this response it sounds like they may think that 572.42 was a fix for the issue?
Crayten@reddit
No, it wasn't
whoever12@reddit
oh, no i know. i received my card after 572.42 was released and have had nothing but problems. just saying it almost sounds like the agent believes that update to have been a fix
Crayten@reddit
u/Dry_Froyo_4868 u/whoever12
See my reply above.
Dry_Froyo_4868@reddit
They told me essentially the same thing and said "There are likely others with the same card that do not have this issue".
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Wait with them in hands so that we're eventually unable to return them lol
Yeah, I feel like this is just a typical support answer to not return your GPUs.
Slider_Override@reddit
(I can just speak to germany)
This is warrenty, If you buy a product which is not performing like expacted you can return it.
But if its over the 14days you have to ship it to MSI and they have to send you a replacment which works or they approve the money back.
Himuo@reddit
Indeed, but problem is that the store you'll be returning the card to will first try to replicate the problem themself to see if its really faulty, and there is a chance it works fine on their test machine and just return the card to you with a fine...
Crayten@reddit
That pretty much never happens.
EEdit_@reddit
I never got a fine but i did return my 5080 to memory express because of this black screen issue, they said they couldnt replicate the issue so they gave me back my card and told me to keep trying to troubleshoot on my end and maybe bring it back if its still giving me issues and they might be able to replace once there is more stock. If that will ever happen lol. At the time i was hoping it was a driver issue so i didnt put up a fight and took the card back. I wasnt surprised they couldnt replicate it as it only happens on my ultrawide 240hz odyssey G9, though i wish they had given me a new card just to see if the issue was still there on a different card. Anyways hopefully they have identified the issue and it will be solved in the next driver update. Not holding my breath though.
Crayten@reddit
I'm in Europe and if a product doesn't work as advertised I can always return it and claim warranty.
UnL1k3@reddit
FINALLY! I hope this means Gigabyte and other AIBs get a resolution as well.
Kemaro@reddit
Nvidia replied the following to my last post on .47 driver thread @ geforce forum
Relevant-Radio-3860@reddit
I can not find that reply anywhere ?
Kemaro@reddit
Their forum is god awful. You’ll want to look at Manuel’s posts by clicking on his name and scrolling through the list.
SilveredgeTV@reddit
Oh man, really wondering if I should return the 5090 gaming trio or hold out for the driver fixes. Hopefully it's not a hardware issue. The Trio doesn't have that issue with ROPs thankfully.
Kemaro@reddit
I’m keeping mine. I bought the micro center extended warranty for my card so I can always swap it out if needed in the future
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Give it a week or two id guess, it's simple to "fix" on the user end so i think they can effectively fix it be it vbios or driver.
People, if you can wait just wait and use an undervolt (just use one regardless imho).
If you don't/can't wait try to go for an Astral since it's probably the best one and free of all the issues.
Kemaro@reddit
Thankfully I don't have the issue in any games so my fix is to just not run 3dmark lol. Not a huge deal, just want it fixed so I know I won't run into it in a future game.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'm glad all my games seems to works fine in .41 or with my undervolt, but yeah like you i just want to have a fix to get a clean experience in the future.
They better not fuck something up friday next week tho !
Limp-Housing-2100@reddit
Same, that version works fine but the latest one my FE 5090 crashes when playing videos in Chrome (it doesn't crash in games though!)
Kemaro@reddit
Can you reproduce this in other Chromium based browsers such as Microsoft Edge or Brave?
Limp-Housing-2100@reddit
Yep, also the Netflix desktop app. I go full screen, within a few minutes the video stutters and a few seconds after the entire screen is stuck (I can see the mouse cursor move but nothing works). I then have to hard-reboot. 60 Hz is stable, as is the .41 beta version at 144/165 hz.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I'm continuing this thread, that I had originally created in the NVIDIA sub, and when it was gaining traction, it got deleted by the mods without explanation.
There's also another thread that got deleted and has way more users commenting that they have this issue. You can check it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ii63ph/rtx_5090_blackscreen_issue/
Stark2G_Free_Money@reddit
Awesome that you could get your rtx 5090 astral running. I can‘t. It finally arrived today and i just get böack screens when booting. I cant even get into the bios or anything. I have a trx50 setup with a threadripper 7960x. Will test on a 9800x3d in the week and see if it fixes it. If not i will return this piece of e waste. Its so bad to see that nearly one month after launch this product is still not usable…
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, it's either a combination of specs, or just plain hardware defects on these GPUs. Either way, the chance of getting these issues is so high that I recommend everyone to just return them to the stores.
It's been almost a month since the RTX 5000s launch, and NVIDIA still hasn't fixed anything at all, nor are there any new developments.
SleepTokenDotJava@reddit
Really does sound like a rushed driver issue. The fact that nvidia mods are deleting posts is concerning.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, I thought the NVIDIA sub had no connections to NVIDIA, but it seems like I was wrong.
WernerWindig@reddit
maybe they are just fanboys
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, that's probably it, I think.
danny12beje@reddit
It's forbidden to talk tech support on the nvidia subreddit.
That's why you don't actually see how many people have driver issues with nvidia gpus. as soon as you go to their forum, you find out how many there are
Zirkoz@reddit
Yep, i can replicate crash easily on 3D MARK speedway on monster hunter wilds WITH framegen, without it, it runs fine. I saw someone with a 30 series card having problems with speedway too on steam 3Dmark forums.
I called the website where i bought the 5090 and they have many reports like us. Since the new drivers it seems like press/review drivers were ok.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I might have good news. Still testing, but I might've solved the problem. So far, every benchmark runs without issues. Still need to test Elden Ring as it would give me a black screen in less than 2 minutes of playing.
I'll report back in a bit.
DdaaHeining@reddit
Looking forward to it. I’m also discussing this in a German hardware forum—loads of 5090 owners are experiencing the same issue as we are. Also some 5080 joining the Beta Tester club.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I updated the original post with the fix (with a caveat).
Zirkoz@reddit
I tried the time spy test and could replicate the same kind of problem monitor goes GREY and drivers crashes no problem on steelnomad
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I made a few more updates to the original post, as it seems like the 60hz only works in certain scenarios (we don't know yet whhy it happens).
Try plugging only 1 monitor and setting your refresh rate to 30hz. (Just for testing purposes, ofc)
Zirkoz@reddit
I just tested with one monitor without dsc and enabled vsync at 60hz and speedway ran no issue. That's a first !
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, at 95hz it also works for me, at 4k. As long as only 1 monitor is plugged in, specifically into a DP port. HDMI won't work at all, even with only 1 monitor plugged in to it.
surelysandwitch@reddit
Or shareholders
trustonaby@reddit
so i change the 5090 msi trio for a 5090 astral liquid and no more blackscreens, 5 times on timespy extreme, 5 times on speedway, 5 times on nomad, 5 times on portroyale, 1 hour on spiderman 2 withouth crashes or blackscreens.
ps: gpu never passes 55c
KingKeqing@reddit
i wanna change too. how can i do that?
trustonaby@reddit
i sell mine and i puchase another
s9roo@reddit
Great, so you gave someone else the problem... nice work!
trustonaby@reddit
No, I told him about the problem with the drives but he wanted to buy it anyway because I sold it at the same price I bought it new
s9roo@reddit
He sounds like a very brave person... not sure I'd have done the same with my money, but all power to them (and you) in that case.
trustonaby@reddit
Yes, i put all the cards on the table and i was sincere with the guy but is hes money, and he talk to me the games he play dont have any problem so idk
backfire7098@reddit
Is it possible to post your default voltage/clock curve on Astral? Maybe that’s the issue…
TheMagickConch@reddit
Everyone having this issue has had an MSI card from what I can tell.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Every brand has been affected, as far as I'm aware.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
You have an Asus card and dont have a problem
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, but there are other users with ASUS TUF, Prime and Astral that have issues.
This all seems like it's either a combination of specs that causes the issues or simply a hardware defect.
I'd say it's a combination of specs, as we've had users test RTX 5090/RTX 5080 in another computer, and it stopped having issues.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Have you swapped your 12vhpwr cable with a new one ? Its the cable causing high current not the gpu itself right ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So, my 12vhpwr cable had barely any use, but using GPU Tweak III, I'm able to see two pins at 9.3A and 9.6A. (red circle alert) Corsair is sending me two new cables, which I'll replace and see if the amperage will lower.
But yes, outside that, I've had zero issues with the Astral model.
Still, with the amount of issues the RTX 5000 are having, I'd recommend everyone to just return them to the store. Even I am regretting a bit this purchase, especially because of the insane wattage usage. It's almost like a goddamn microwave.
backfire7098@reddit
No, if you read the comments you can see that Gainward, Gigabyte, Palit etc is also affected.
Electronic-Item2955@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkZaGsQat8
This Problem !
Electronic-Item2955@reddit
mee too same problem !
Xyntek01@reddit
I confirm the similar issue is happening in RTX5080 MSI Gaming Trio OC.
Himuo@reddit
Another day without a fix. I'm really starting to be anxious now.
ramsito82@reddit
Days go by and they continue to investigate, at this rate it will be fixed in the 6000 series.
Xavvir@reddit
I didn't see this otherwise posted here but I wanted to post something that is working for my MSI Gaming Trio to alleviate this weird bug. Using MSI Afterburner to underclock the card 400MHz lets me run with my monitors set to native resolutions (including a 240Hz OLED) with no issues. Before that I had to use the 60Hz single monitor fix which was driving me crazy. The downclocking is more manageable for me and gaming performance is not effected too much.
rembomy@reddit
Similar approach worked for me on Suprim 5090 LC also, but with -250mhz.
Neven076@reddit
Could you told me your max coreclock after you underclock it by 400Mhz?
Kemaro@reddit
Base boost clock for gaming trio is 2482 and mine regularly boosts to 2800+ with good cooling so My guess would be base boost of 2082 with max boosts to 2400+.
Xavvir@reddit
Correct it's about 2415 to 2435 depending on temperatures
UnL1k3@reddit
The new driver sadly does not work for me.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Lmao, stuck with .41 for 2 years lets go !!!
Zirkoz@reddit
Yep new drivers don't have the fix in .41... Useless for us
Zeiin@reddit
Where did you find .41? I tried looking it up and can't find anything about it. Does it really fix the issue?
stonelan@reddit
No. It won't fix all the issues. I have it and my games still crash
LamyiS@reddit
Yayyyyy
UnL1k3@reddit
Wooooohooo
Abizigial@reddit
likewise
Boring_Wrangler_8609@reddit
Here are my Test Results.
My System
Ryzen 7 9800X3D
Asus Rog X870A Mainboard on 1003 Bios
RTX 5090 Asus Tuf
360hz 1440p OLED Monitor
Blackscreen (Need to turn off Powersupply)
I have finish 1 Time Spy with 49000 Points on Graphic.
But have the Blackscreens.
Now the Funny Part.
I put the 5090 in the PC from my Girl Friend.
He has no Problems. But only 39000 Points.
Same MHz, Same Driver 572.47, Same Settings.
The GPU load on my test is allways 100%. On her pc is only 60-70%. I think thats the diffrence.
Ryzen 9 7900X3D
Asus Tuf X670E Plus on 2413 BIOS.
240hz 1440p OLED Monitor
No Blackscreens
Tomorrow I will test and put my CPU in her pc and test again.
Boring_Wrangler_8609@reddit
Last Update.
I Replace my Power Supply 1600 Watt Dark Power from be quiet to a 1500 Watt Corsair to test.
Now no Blackscreens any more.
Brainfuck
Boring_Wrangler_8609@reddit
I'm slowly running out of ideas.
After hours of trying things out, I'm going to put my girlfriend's processor into my PC again today and test it.
Because it has full performance and no black screens. Nomad Benchmark \~14500 points, just like me (when it runs through without a black screen)
Only in Timespy it has fewer points, which according to the Top100 list from 3DMark also seems to be normal with the processor.
But with my i9 14900k I don't have any black screens either, but only 42000 points in Timespy.
My 9800X3D could possibly be the cause.
We even installed a fresh Windows 11 without any additional programs so as not to distort the results.
I don't understand why I'm affected by the black screens.
But everything is running a bit strangely in general. My girlfriend is currently playing a lot of Black Ops Zombies and with the RTX 4090 she gets around 200-250 FPS with frame generation. With the RTX 5090 she once had 350-400 and then suddenly only 170.
Something is going terribly wrong.
Today is my last day of testing, if I can't get the black screens fixed, the card will go back.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, this is very weird behaviour. Let us know if putting your CPU in her machine changes things.
Zirkoz@reddit
I found something, the stock VF curve in MSI afterburner going up to 3100 at 1.2v by downclocking the VF curve by 500mhz that's the first time I could end the speedway benchmark without any hiccups nor black screens.
Boring_Wrangler_8609@reddit
I do -400 and 60hz on Monitor, then it run for 5-10 min. Then Blackscreen.
Cute-Elderberry-7866@reddit
18 updates?
OP is a hero!
I've seen a lot of reports of MSI & Gigabyte cards having this issue. I noted a single report of PNY in other threads. I should try to track 5080 vs 5090, but I've only been looking at brands.
ASUS Prime and Astral both seem to be good. This looks like vbios.
Has anyone made statements on this official (MSI, Gigabyte, Nvidia)?
oudude07@reddit
I'm having this issue on a PNY 5080 OC
Boring_Wrangler_8609@reddit
I have the Asus Tuf 5090 and Same Problems.
sweetchilier@reddit
I'm wondering the same. Can any owners of 50 series cards from other brands(zotac, pny, or other AICs) comment if they have the same issue?
Limp-Housing-2100@reddit
I have a founders 5090 and my Netflix crashes within 5 minutes at 144 hz. At 60 hz it did not crash, funnily enough games don't crash though, I have no idea what's going on... tried maximum performance mode and I have little willpower to try everything the OP did.
kyonashi@reddit
So out of curiosity because I just want to make sure I’m not the only one experiencing it in this sequence.
After that I have to system reset to the last back up and now I just have to wait until nvidia potentially fixes this. My biggest concern is that I also get a blue screen with it
ramsito82@reddit
That's right, the same thing happens to almost all of us.
kyonashi@reddit
Ok great I didn’t see many people talk about the blue screen aspect but I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one. Alright cool I won’t return my graphics card yet I’ll wait to see if nvidia has an answer for this
EEdit_@reddit
I’m not experiencing any blue screens, or black screens on start up. I just have black screens and lose display signal when playing most games and have to restart my PC to get my display back. Are these separate issues? Or maybe they are related because this is also solved by having refresh set to 60hz, or dowclocking, or undervolting.
backfire7098@reddit
I only got black screen on startup (only mouse pointer is visible) while trying the latest driver. I haven’t experienced blue screens. They might have introduced new bugs in addition to the one we are discussing.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
This is not the same issue, no
To fix this force power off 3 times (should force safe mode at the 3rd attempt) and use DDU then reinstall the drivers.
kyonashi@reddit
For his issue or for mine?
backfire7098@reddit
I had the both issues. Looks like the new driver introduced new issues without fixing the existing ones.
kyonashi@reddit
I’ve seen people saying do an old driver installation and it could help. I’m not sure nor do I want to give false hope but I’ll try it out later when I get the chance. Sorry to hear you are experiencing both as well
backfire7098@reddit
.41 beta is the most stable for me. At least I can play games.
kyonashi@reddit
Wait so even at 60hz on another build you still experience crashing and black screen?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Backfire's
backfire7098@reddit
Yes I did that exactly and went back to Beta driver.
kyonashi@reddit
Yea I’m thinking they may be related. Because none of this started happening until I turned my 4K monitor to 240hz. Then all hell broke lose and I started blue screening and then I’d get a black screen on start up and have to reset my pc
Kemaro@reddit
Frame rate and refresh rate are not the same thing. You can be running at hundreds of FPS with a refresh rate of 60hz for example.
kyonashi@reddit
My bad I fixed it, but did you experience anything similar?
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah and .41 fixed it for me. In any other 572 driver I have to run monitor at 60hz to not get black screen in speed way or time spy. Games are fine for me though even at high refresh rates.
kyonashi@reddit
Oh good looks I will install it today and see if I can get my refresh rate higher. If it still happens after that I’ll just give up for sometime
Neven076@reddit
This morning, i have see the differents off the 572.41 driver and the latest one (572,47) in GPU-Z:
572.41, in game (Stalker 2) : core clock, ~2915 MHz / TDP ~90% (max 98). No crash or any problem.
572.47, same conditions and game : core clock no more than 2700 MHz / TDP no more than 70%. Crash after 5min, automatic reboot of my computer.
What the Logic?
Kemaro@reddit
.41 has a fix for the issue, later drivers do not. That is the logic.
AdAwkward2566@reddit
some people still get blackscreen and bsod with .41 driver. so no its not a fix.
Kemaro@reddit
They are not the same bug. It’s multiple bugs affecting multiple people. The bug I had is fixed in .41
AdAwkward2566@reddit
You said ".41 has a fix for the issue, later drivers do not. That is the logic." fix for what? we are talking black screen issue. if your issue is black screen then good for you. but other people are still getting BLACKSCREEN.
Kemaro@reddit
Idk who you are my dude. I was talking to the guy whose comment I replied to about HIS bug. Get the fuck out of here if you have nothing relevantly to add.
AdAwkward2566@reddit
stop saying its a fix when its not a fix for everyone.
SnooTomatoes7391@reddit
Black screens on a 5090 gainward phantom here. As long as the core clock is higher 2500 mhz i get black screens.
naadriis@reddit
This hurts. Pretty much same behaviour on my MSI 5090 Gaming Trio. 2550 seems to work, but with anything above 2600 it can happen any time.
As far as it does not black screen the card can go at around 3Ghz with good temps. I hope they can fix this without decreasing performance ;S
Kemaro@reddit
This is wild becuase my 5090 gaming trio oc has never once black screened in a game, only in time spy or speed way. I can be gaming at over 2800mhz core clock in some games people say are problematic. Only difference is my panel is a single 4k120 (LG C2) where as I think a lot of folks getting black screens are running more than one panel or much higher refresh rates.
naadriis@reddit
Hmm that is the case for me. I'm running dual high refresh rate 4K monitors.
Gonna try with only a 4K 120Hz TV connected like you a bit later
Kemaro@reddit
As a test try a single monitor and set it to 60 or 120hz and see how your games behave. At 120hz speed way and time spy still crash occasionally on 572.42 but I’ve never had a game crash on any driver since I got my 5090 2 weeks ago
naadriis@reddit
Well, I just tried on my second monitor with DSC disabled. And I ran +200Mhz core clock with +2000Mhz memory clock, for the hell of it.
In my 2 hour testing various heavy games have not had a single black screen or crash and the card was running 2.9-3.0Ghz like a champ. Framerates were definitely higher than on my safe profile which goes 2.55Ghz.
Could this problem be DSC releated? :0
SnooTomatoes7391@reddit
Yeah mine also does around 3ghz when I lock it to 60 fps and run speedway and such but this is disappointing. Might try to flash astral vbios as others who tried that bios say it has fixed he black screen issue.
stonelan@reddit
Try it and tell us the results!
Extension-Border5522@reddit
Hey, jai également des problèmes avec la 5090 gainward phamtom, tu a baisse de 400 mhz ? A tu des problèmes avec le double screen. Perso oui. Et également des problèmes d'artefacts.
backfire7098@reddit
It looks like most brands are affected with this black screen/crashes and both RTX 5090 and RTX 5080. We have reports from MSI, Gigabyte, Gainward, Inno3D, Palit and now Asus. nVidia has to fix it.
LamyiS@reddit
Eventually, they solved the problem by making it happen to all brands without exception.
Himuo@reddit
Yeah, and there are no "safe" models either since ASUS Astral seems to crash too depending on users :-(
Totti_H@reddit
I have found the solution 🥳
I noticed that I haven't read about any Asus Astral 5080 with problems, I got the BIOS (Quiet) and flashed it on my Aorus Master.
The problems were eliminated immediately, Immortals of Aveum (always crashed immediately after the loading screen) and Palworld run perfectly! No dropouts, stable clock etc (see screenshot).
The disadvantage of the bios is that an Astral apparently only has 2 fan controllers, but the Aorus Master has 3. The first fan is not addressed, but the temps still seem to be very good.
It seems like the manufacturers need to update the VBios, I think it's the voltage/boost. The voltage is higher with Asus.
evangelism2@reddit
Glad it worked for you, but no dice here on my 5090 gaming trio
Aleiacta@reddit
Also having grey screen with blue lines on a Aorus Master 5090. Did you try using the stock Silent Mode from the Aorus Master before flashing the bios?
EEdit_@reddit
Do you by chance have a samsung monitor? I also crash to a grey screen with blue vertical lines with my 5080 Gigabyte Aero. Ive heard that is how samsungs handle black screen crashes
Aleiacta@reddit
Yeah. Its a G9 57". Ive seen some people say that grey+blue line is just the way Samsung handles black screen issues. So perhaps its the same issue as everyone else.
EEdit_@reddit
That’s what I’m hoping lol
Totti_H@reddit
yes.
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Hi i have the same gpu aorus master 5090. I dont have random crashes but my issue is when I turn on ray tracing usually happens with indiana jones or monster hunter. I just want to ask if you have played any games with ray tracing and no crashes happened. Ty
Aleiacta@reddit
Hey! Ive tested only with Cyberpunk and I didnt have any issues
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Seems like im the only one who has this problem
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Hi i have the same gpu aorus master 5090. I dont have random crashes but my issue is when I turn on ray tracing usually happens with indiana jones or monster hunter. I just want to ask if you have played any games with ray tracing and no crashes happened. Ty
Crayten@reddit
Flashing a non aprroved bios from a different vendor to your GPUs voids the warranty.
KingKeqing@reddit
who can test this with a msi 5090 trio? c;
trustonaby@reddit
Who is brave enought?
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Wow. How did you manage to find that specific BIOS? I also haven’t read anything about Astral models having problems and that’s why I sold my Gaming Trio OC.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Official Asus page
If anyone with a Gaming Trio OC can risk it and test it (on .42) i'll send kisses down the neckies !
UnL1k3@reddit
Anyone with an Aero OC who tests this gets the same 🙏🏾
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
There it is, i was sure it was exactly this kind of problem.
Need more data to say if it's 100% this but really nice, ty dude.
Tagging u/m_w_h, new updates and ? solutions ? for the black screens issues on 5080/90.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Nice find! Though I still think they will end up lowering the RTX 5090 performance in general, which is bad, taking into account that the performance increase over the RTX 4090 wasn't that much to start with.
You forgot to attach screenshots.
Definitely reach out to NVIDIA support, and GIGABYTE, and tell them of your findings.
Reach out to NVIDIA using the driver feedback form or go to the NVIDIA forums and reach out to an ADMIN through message.
EveryCaptain999@reddit
When I start 3DMark Speed Way, Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark, Black Myth Wukong benchmark (all with top settings), it crashes to black screen (Cyberpunk is able to run for about a minute, the others crash immediately).
3DMark Speed Way works, when I set the display to 60Hz.
For example, KCD2 can run for hours, while GPU under 100% load, and no crash occurs. And sometimes it crashes to black screen within 15 minutes.
When I run stress test OCCT with combined load for every single component, it is stable, it can run for an hour without any crash. Including the monitor, the whole setup does not take more than 970W, and monitor could be about 150W on full brightness.
EveryCaptain999@reddit
Hey, I found out, the beta driver is not necessary, if I tweak voltage curve! I'm using the latest drivers 572.47 - MSI GeForce RTX 5090 32G GAMING TRIO OC
I slightly undervolt the whole curve +45MHz, and set maximum voltage to 1V in Afterburner. So the maximum frequency is on 2730Mhz, which is 42Mhz under the specification. With this setup, nothing crashes anymore! https://tinypic.host/image/Sn%C3%ADmek-obrazovky-2025-02-21-232933.3DvVFM
With this drivers without this voltage tweaking, I was able to run 3DMark SpeedWay only with 60Hz refresh rate, and it makes 14695points.
With the updated voltage curve and with full 240Hz refresh rate and with full 7680x2160 resolution, it doesnt crashes, and it makes 14324points.
For this 2.5% of lost performance, it is stable.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You have the exact same problem most of us are facing, feel free to report it to NVIDIA too.
Do you need the BETA Driver to test it and see how it goes ?
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Hi are you able to send me the beta driver 572.41? I would like to test it with my aorus master. Thank you
EveryCaptain999@reddit
I have driver version 572.42, so it should have the hot fix from 572.41beta, right?
I have DisplayPort 2.1, not hdmi. Afik hdmi 2.1 would not have sufficient bandwidth for this resolution and 240hz.
Also, is there any official nvidia beta driver channel? I found this site https://www.nvidia.in/drivers/beta, but it does not have category for 50x series, and there are no beta drivers for rtx4090.
Kemaro@reddit
572.42 does not contain the fix that 572.41 has surprisingly enough. .42 was in final QA validation prior to .41 being released so the fix could not be included. It *SHOULD* be included in the next GRD release on or around 2/20 when the 5070 Ti launches.
Crayten@reddit
It's not surprising because the "fix" didn't work.
You don't implement something that has no effect or only a very limited effect that potentially could make things worse for even more user.
Kemaro@reddit
Fixed all of my issues, so yes the fix did something for some people.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Check dms
AdAwkward2566@reddit
I cant find the beta driver. Where can I download it?
EveryCaptain999@reddit
Thanks!
I can confirm that 572.41 beta drivers improves it a lot.
Black Myth Wugonkg and Cyberpunk benchmarks now works nicely in full resolution on 240Hz.
3DMark Speed Way is still crashing. Not immediately, buy after a couple of seconds.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Ok we share the exact same experiences
tiudark@reddit
Nvidia when it comes to doing their fucking job:
jamyjet@reddit
Weeks and still no proper response from Nvidia, it's actually disgusting how little they think of their paying customers.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
https://www.techpowerup.com/332884/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-spotted-with-missing-rops-performance-loss-confirmed
SUPER ! GREAT ! AMAZING !
3K Euros.
Himuo@reddit
It gets better every day, what the hell...
Slider_Override@reddit
Puuu my MSI 5090 Trio, show 176ROPs (lucky)
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Mine too it's probably only a batch affected but it's ANOTHER stupid issue, feels like amateur work beginning to the end...
UnL1k3@reddit
More proof that this launch was rushed out the gate.
EEdit_@reddit
So after messing with stuff all night in afterburner I’ve discover that limiting my voltage curve has solved my black screen/display signal crashes. I set it to 2737 at 900mv. This is just a bandaid solution but as far as I can tell it points to something being off with voltages in the vbios because even if I set my core clock to around 2730 without limiting the voltage I still crash. What still makes no sense is why this only happens on high bandwidth displays. I can run every game with no limits on my 1440p monitor and I don’t crash.
As far as I can tell this is the best temporary solution as it allows you to maintain decent clocks and use the full refresh rate of your display.
Wakefulll@reddit
A few more important notes related to overclocking RTX 5000 series:
- Overvoltage % adjustment is currently functioning improperly in the first public NVIDIA 572.16 driver on RTX 5000 series cards, so use it with caution. Attempt to set overvoltage % with any GPU overclocking software (even default 0% overvoltage) may cause max frequency to be artificially limited, similar to previously documented V/F points voltage locking issue. Until the functionality is fixed in NVIDIA driver, it is strongly recommended to avoid enabling "Unlock voltage control" option in general MSI Afterburner properties. If you already enabled it, you may disable "Unlock voltage control" and reboot system after that.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yup, I was faced with this issue yesterday while trying to undervolt my GPU. I'll wait until they fix this.
EEdit_@reddit
How do I know if it’s artificially limiting my max frequency? Afterburner is reporting my frequency as what I set it too. Also if I raise it to far it crashes so it seems like it’s responding to what I set it too
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Run a benchmark/game, and whatch the FPS being way lower than normal, and also the Core clock not going above 700+ or close to it. That's when you'll know.
EEdit_@reddit
When testing this out last night I didn’t notice FPS being way lower than normal. Maybe a 5-10 FPS difference. Also afterburner was reporting around 2720MHz on the core clock while playing. I’m using the beta build of afterburner from guru3d as it was the only version that would run with my card
KingKeqing@reddit
did you tried to set it only to -400 MHz without undervolting? this fixed it for me
EEdit_@reddit
Yes I did do that and it does fix it. Doing that results in lower clocks for me personally though. That would put me around 2450 MHz. Undervolting gets me stable at 2737 MHz
King_Evol@reddit
Ich hab die RTX 5090 Palit und auch nur Blackscreens bekommen. Nach meinem versuch sie auf -400MHz zu takten und sie auf PCIE gen 4 laufen zu lassen, läuft sie seit gestern ohne Blackscreens in den Games wo ich sie vorher immer bekommen habe.
UnL1k3@reddit
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/557655/geforce-grd-57247-feedback-thread-released-22025/ - Every other comment in the thread is about the black screen issue which is clearly not limited to the 50 series. How is this not in the open issues? Too busy with their enterprise customers ig
Anyway, my 5080 is scheduled for pickup in 5 business days and I'll finally be free of this burden. Dobby is freeeeee
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You are going Red or just waiting/ Asus way ?
UnL1k3@reddit
The astral 5080 costs something like $860 more than what I paid for the aero here. Thats literally what the 5090s msrp is and if I wanted to spend that much Id have just got a 5090. I'm looking at getting a 4090 since they're just a bit more expensive now that the dust from the 50 series launch has settled a bit.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
4090 is a good call if you can find it at a decent price
UnL1k3@reddit
Talked to a few shops here and they have stock with prices close to or lower than msrp. I'm debating on the 5080 super just because of the melting connector issue. I'll be constantly paranoid.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
This shit got me pranoid too even more since i have a 5090, i got 5 spare cable if needed lol
UnL1k3@reddit
Yeah the 600 watts really scared me away from the 5090 (not that I would've gotten one with the stock sitch lol). I mean you should be fine. Are you on an atx 3.1 psu?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yep hx1500i (3.0 but 3.1 , it's dumb) no native connectors tho , official Corsair 2x8pin to 12v.
It's fine and i uv my 5090, it's never getting above 420w, most of the time sit at 350w
UnL1k3@reddit
Thats very good! My 5080 hits 400w on Cyberpunk. Did you undervolt?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yep always UV dem fuckers, 430max in cyberpunk at looked 144fps, rarement goes under which feels insanely smooth.
UnL1k3@reddit
Good stuff bro!
naadriis@reddit
I messaged MSI support from Lithuania and they gave me this answer:
"Dear Sir:
Thanks for choosing MSI!
Glad to be of service.
Regarding your concern,
We apologize for the bad experience, this should be caused by the driver, we have been working closely with nVidia to handle this issue, please be patient.
Best Regards
Have a nice day."
At least these guys are starting to aknowledge the issue as well
Himuo@reddit
Thank you for sharing
Better than nothing :x
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Iv seen someone here fix the blackscreen issue by flashing the asus astral vbios. Has anyone tried this? If yes care to share the process. Thanks
UnL1k3@reddit
Wouldn't recommend this, it'll void warranty if something happens. Your best bet is to try some harmless tweaks.
AdAwkward2566@reddit
Hopefully Nvidia will release a fix soon. so far for those who have the astral 5090's are not having any blackscreen issues.
Crayten@reddit
NV finally aknowledged the problem but dropped it some random comment in the driver feedback thread on the official nvidia boards.
https://imgur.com/a/oSNJgcu
UnL1k3@reddit
Link? I had a glance through the latest driver feedback thread and found nothing.
ramsito82@reddit
shameful, since February 5th with a 5090 suprim liquid and black screens, another new driver and it is not even mentioned.
UnL1k3@reddit
This is the worst part. No acknowledgement, it's not even in the open issues section.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I'm going to be honest, if you guys are able to, just return them to the store. This is not looking good, and it doesn't look like Nvidia is anywhere near a fix.
I got a message from the 2nd level support, of Nvidia, and they gave me the usual generic answer "we're still investigating these issues.". My last email to them was 10 days ago, and they just answered now with the most generic answer.
UnL1k3@reddit
Yup doing just that, on a side note, let's see if we have any 5070ti black screen brethren.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That would be funny. Even more GPUs with these issues, and it's quite likely that RTX 5070s will have these issues
UnL1k3@reddit
Since the 5080 and 90 aren't even on the same die and both have the issue, I don't see why it wouldn't have it as well.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
It's litteraly a Vbios update to do yet only Asus is doing them lol
Bunch of kids running the AIB market nowadays i swear.
UnL1k3@reddit
EVGA would never
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
I’m having this issue on my 5080 Suprim. Not everyone is commenting with their model, do we know if it’s localized to MSI?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
No Gainward, Gigabyte and MSI are the 3 brands we see quite a bit here, MSI mostly because they had/have a lot of stock.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Welp here you go , 5070 Ti getting it by it.
UnL1k3@reddit
G f-in G lol
Noftark@reddit
It's a disaster
tkno_SojIrOu@reddit
Just sharing my experience and fixes with others who may also be facing similar issues on their 5080/5090. Ironically I had 0 issues in-game despite having multiple issues in Windows.
Issues:
Fixes applied:
NinjaTheKenny@reddit
Hi, are you confirmed no longer experiencing this issue? I'm considering disabling my onboard AMD iGPU as well if you aren't. Did you disable via BIOS or simply Device Manager?
tkno_SojIrOu@reddit
I disabled the iGPU in BIOS but I don't know whether that really helped with the issues as I was trying to eliminate AMD drivers from conflicting with Nvidia ones. One thing I did also do is change my EXPO settings from EXPO Tweaked to EXPO II but it has been running on Tweaked fine with my 4090.
I am still experiencing some minor green lines/artifacts only when playing video files (but not YouTube) the first split second you open it. MS Edge will hang on YouTube sometimes but I can close and reopen it without crashing.
Phounus@reddit
u/zpinto1234 I'm curious what the top boost clock of your Astral OC is. Have you tested it?
My Gaming Trio boosts to \~2900MHz. Considering that the advertised boost clock according to Nvidia is \~2410MHz this seems a bit excessive and might be one of the reasons as to why the card has a tendency to crash (black screen). Did MSI not tune the cards properly before shipping? Seems possible. Just speculating, especially considering that people are reporting that a downclock mitigates or solves the issue.
I'm running some AI stuff atm and my clock is set to 2842 MHz, and has been for about 40 minutes without any issues. Never had a crash or a black screen while running AI workloads.
Here is all the info:
Neven076@reddit
@SomeoneNotFamous I confirm you that the beta driver fix the issu. The beta driver drops the spécifications of the card that right?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
u/ and name to tag :)
It seems like .41 downclocks the core a little bit yes, i don't have the specifics numbers in mind but i actually undervolted and OCed a bit and i don't see any drop in performance, maybe 5 fps but thats nothing.
.41 is a bandaid fix if anything, NVIDIA needs to list the issues, explain them then fixes everything on a WHQL Driver.
Neven076@reddit
I don't understand how it's works... My specifications GPU are : base clock 2017Mhz / boost clock 2407Mhz (5090 Inno3D). But, in game (Avowed), 98% of GPU use, my clock is to 2850 / 2900Mhz? No crashes / blackscreen.
I see that with MSI Afterburner, CPUZ and CPUIDMonitor. (Still on 572.41)
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
"NVIDIA are still working on mitigations for the black screen issues, no specific ETA - source: Nvidia Customer Care Escalation Team (Level 2 - February 20th 2025)"
Heard this one before uh
m_w_h@reddit
^ from unofficial tracking comment 'notes' section at https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1itydor/_/mdsradp/
ramsito82@reddit
How many levels does NVIDIA have? Are there many left until the final boss?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
"Nvidia Customer Annihilation Team (Level 3)"
m_w_h@reddit
This will be one of my final NVIDIA posts.
NVIDIA drivers and the Nvidia App aren't in a great place and haven't been quite for a while. Series 50 issues may require vBIOS update for some vendors if software mitigations are unreliable.
Completely understand any frustration - I've used Nvidia products since 1998 (27 years) at both work and home, the current situation is .... disappointing.
From the unofficial tracking comment 'notes' section at https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1itydor/_/mdsradp/
^ summarised from screenshots of messages sent to users, sourced from multiple DMs and different forums.
In the meantime, very IMPORTANT, please submit a report to NVIDIA using the official form including Windows version, system specification and cloud drive link to DMP files.
^ compress any that are around the date and time of the crash, upload to Google Drive / Onedrive or similar and link in report.
TL;DR: if all avenues have been tried to resolve 5080/5090 issues on the system AND a suitable 'spare' GPU is available in the interim - either RMA or return the GPU for a refund while the return window is still open
Phounus@reddit
It's been three weeks. The latest driver did basically nothing (same issues even if my testing has been brief and limited).
I just handed in a request to the retailer where I bought my card to return or replace it. I'm not going to sit around with what might become a \~$2000+ paperweight.
Slider_Override@reddit
NVIDIA GeForce 572.47 WHQL is out !!!! (I do not have any info about Blackscreen fix yet)
LamyiS@reddit
I think they are ignoring our issues.
Crayten@reddit
Considering that no one as far as I'm aware got a beta invite I doubt it will fix anything.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Wdym ?
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
Hi there !
How did you pick a 5090 Astral ?
Is there any stock where you live ?
In France, it is out of stock on every seller website...
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I live in Porrugal, and there's extremely low stock (like 1 or 2 RTX 5090 per week). I just end up refreshing the stores websites constantly, that's all.
Dry_Froyo_4868@reddit
I messaged MSI and they claim they are not aware of a black screen issue and then I was told if all 5090s are having this problem that it would be a Vbios or driver update that would come from Nvidia not them. I then proceeded to send them a link to this subreddit.
Slider_Override@reddit
This is ridiculous, I have been writing to MSI support for 2 weeks and they always say that the problems are known and that they are waiting for Nvidia
Dry_Froyo_4868@reddit
Well hopefully that is the case and the person I talked to on their live chat just didn't have any idea.
ramsito82@reddit
I also spoke to Spanish support and we are still the same 2 weeks later.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
They are useless since the support does not share any infos to their other teams, German support is claiming that they know and work with NVIDIA to fix the issues (probably a lie) and yours say the opposite...
mrgayfisher@reddit
This is insane...
I have tried both 5090 gaming trio OC and 5090 suprim liquid SOC
Both when 3d mark timespy extreme starts monitors go black and after a while pc reboots. (also randomly this happens in games)
I have 2pc that I tried with:
- 14900K
- 64gb DDR5-6400@CL32
- Asus Z790 hero
- Corsair AX1600i
- 9800X3D
- 64GB DDR5-6000@CL30
- Asrock X870e nova
- Seasonic Prime TX-1600W
Monitors are 2x 24 inch samsung old full hd + LG C2 42
New driver does not help.
Maybe if I can find Asus card it will work....
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The only brand/model that doesn't have these issues are the ASUS RTX 5090 ASTRAL. In my updates, you can look at a video there, where the GPU reviewer for Tom's Hardware was having these issues with the Suprim Liquid, and once he tested with the ASTRAL he didn't have any issues anymore.
If you're able to replace it, do so with the ASTRAL.
whoever12@reddit
I'm having black screen issues on my trio 5090 too. Can't run more than like 30 seconds of speedway. And even capping a game I play at 144hz, it crashes after awhile.
Somewhat interesting, gpu clock is all the way at 2760 before it crashes speedway. Trio is supposed to have a boost clock of 2482. I've done no OC/UV to the card, this is straight out of the box.
Kemaro@reddit
this is how gpu boost works. if there is power or thermal headroom, the card will clock as high as possible
whoever12@reddit
Interesting. In any case, underclocking the card by 400mhz in afterburner leads to stability, as suggested by someone on here. After I did that, I successfully looped 3dmark speed way 20x whereas it couldn't pass once before. Haven't had a black screen since on this -400mhz underclock.
Kemaro@reddit
The power limit of the card is more of a power target. If there is head room, for example if you have reached your FPS cap, the core clock of the GPU will run at a higher frequency (with a higher voltage) to hit the power limit. This will lead to a more smooth game play experience and better 1 percent lows. If the GPU is running at maximum utilization (i.e. 99%), then the card will actively adjust clock speed to always sit at the power limit or close to it based on the voltage/temperature curve set in the VBIOS. That's why you see games that use more of the GPU like CP2077 have avergage boost clocks of around 2650mhz where as games that use less of the gpu or run up against your vsync/fps cap will boost much higher, often over 2800mhz.
whoever12@reddit
Got it. In this case, speed way only hits about 150fps while sitting at 100% gpu utilization on my 240hz monitor with vsync disabled... so shouldn't it fall on the "lower clocks" side of what you described?
It sounds like there's a driver or vbios issue in general, so maybe its not worth analyzing whether or not its doing the right thing -- it's clearly not
Kemaro@reddit
I am seeing an average clock of 2700mhz in my best speed way run at stock settings. Max clock was 2940 mhz. Scored 14710.
whoever12@reddit
what card do you have?
i do around 14150 on this underclock, with avg clocks of 2425 or so
Kemaro@reddit
Gaming Trio OC
whoever12@reddit
Sigh, so frustrating. downloading the drivers that just dropped now but i see reports it did nothing for the blackscreens
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah it was just like .42 for me. Black screened during run 3 of a 20 run speed way stress test.
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
It is so irritating that there no download links for 572.41 so can't even try that.
CoLoRnK@reddit
Does this one really seem to help? I just tried the latest (572.47) this morning and it crashed in MH Wilds benchmark on the first run
justinianoo@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1iieber/comment/mckor9w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
CoLoRnK@reddit
Appreciate the link, the 572.41 download is in here if anyone wants it. Going to try with those drivers now
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'll send you one asap, not at home and my link is down.
Kemaro@reddit
Welp they released 572.47 today and yet again I am seeing black screens in Speed Way and Time Spy. Still no formal acknowledgement of the issue from Nvidia either. I think it is time to just return this card. I am tired of being strung along as my return window slowly disappears.
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
That's the infuriating part, if they openly acknowledged this as an issue in their released notes rather than some obscure forum message it'd have gone towards perhaps waiting for the fix. But at this point the best response is to return these cards asap and only repurchase if a definitive fix is working.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
How did you manage to snag an Astral in such a short time ?! I also sold my gaming trio the next day you returned yours and been searching for an astral since then lol.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Also, did you swap your 12vhpwr cable with a new one? People are saying that it’s too risky to use the same cable even if you unplugged/plugged in couple of times. But I guess you now have Gpu Tweak to monitor the cable right ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I usually just have store pages auto-refreshing constantly. I use the same Corsair Cable 12VHPWR, have not replaced it. If something burns, I'll just send it to warranty, as this is just a garbage connector. Yes, I have GPU Tweak installed, and I can check the cable there.
newparad1gm@reddit
Having the same issue after I just installed the MSI Gaming Trio 5090. Ran 3dmark benchmark and would get grey screen with blue bars. The rest of my hardware is Intel 14900K, 32GB DDR-6200 RAM, MSI Unify-X Z690 mobo, variety of m.2 SSDs, and a 1200W ATX 2 psu so I have to use the 4x1 8pin to 12vhpwr adapter. I am running an Odyssey G9 57" monitor at 7680x2160 with 240Hz over displayport 2.1.
I did try downclocking to -400Mhz core clock in MSI Afterburner and I was able to get through a benchmark.
rnzgrc@reddit
Set bios to pcie 4.0 and reinstall nvidia drivers. Fixed all the problems for me.
princepwned@reddit
trying this now are you using hdmi or displayport
rnzgrc@reddit
hdmi
Kemaro@reddit
Which card do you have? And what problems were you experiencing prior to switching PCIe speed?
rnzgrc@reddit
5090 Gaming Trio. Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk crashing minutes after lunch.
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah CP is a weird one because I can play all day with no crashing. Doesn’t matter what settings I use in game. Don’t have Alan wake installed to test at the moment. Only thing that crashes for me is speed way and time spy.
ramsito82@reddit
Another day and we are still the same, with no solution from anyone, neither from Nvidia nor from AIB.
Crayten@reddit
Hard to blame the AIBs when Nvidia rushed out a product with barely any testing.
UnL1k3@reddit
Gigabyte has not responded to my support ticket, emails or calls. At least MSI was intermittently communicating with their customers.
link_chi@reddit
I made a support ticket with Gigabyte on the 13th, and Gigabyte Tech Support Team responded on the 14th. They told me at the time that they were aware of the issue but didn't know the cause as "NVIDIA is still currently investigating it". They also said to "wait until NVIDIA releases a fix in the next driver update".
UnL1k3@reddit
Thank you :)
naadriis@reddit
What works for me is downclocking my RTX 5090. At 2550Mhz it does not get black screens or anything.
With anything above 2670Mhz there is a chance of it happening ;(
LabSavings8176@reddit
Black Screen | RTX 5080
Okay, so I am one of those with Black Screen in many many games. I have tried everything. I come from a RTX 4070 super and everything was working until I plugged the RTX 5080 and installed the new driver.
What exactly happens:
-> Black Screen in both monitors, few seconds/minutes later games crash, and then, I can use my PC again if I close the game.
When? some times in the menu, some times in the game, in 1 second of gameplay, 30 seconds, 30 minutes.
What I have tried:
-> I have updated my BIOS
-> I have replaced my Corsair 750RMx for a brand new Corsair 1000RMx (2024) atx 3.1.
-> I have tried format my windows 11 (full format)
-> I have tried DDU more times than I can count.
-> I have tried change the PCIe version from 5.0 to 4.0 and to 3.0.
-> I have changed different cables and only one monitor. (I have a dual monitor setup, ultrawide LG 38 and a msi 24)
Nothing seems to work.
But then, today I tried to change the voltage in MSI afterburn, and finally with 6%-10% more voltage I was able to PLAY the game. But, because of this change, the GPU clock was stuck in 1275mhz. If I manually change the Voltage/Frequency curve I am able to get high levels of GPU Clock, or if i set the core clock +1000.
But then, I don't know the best practice here. I don't understand much of overclock. It seems to me a GPU BIOS problem or a driver issue that is not managing the voltages correct.
What should I do? wait for NVIDIA release something? There is any config/setup that I can use safely in MSI Afterburn to have the expected clocks from my GPU and still play the games?
Another interesting thing to say is: When I first plugged the RTX 5080 and run some benchmarks the GPU Clock it was stuck at 1275 as well. I am not sure what I did, but after some time the Clock was able to go the expected values (2295mhz)
LamyiS@reddit
The power limit is not working for me, but the core clock speed decreases work for me. (-325Mhz)
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Might wanna try undervolting and ocing
LamyiS@reddit
How to? I'm new to this.
Sammmy1036@reddit
I have the MSI GeForce RTX 5080 Trio OC and also noticing these black screen issues happening a few times per day. I was running a 4070 prior to this and had no issues whatsoever until installing the new card and updating to the latest driver.
m_w_h@reddit
For those with LG C2/CX and other displays that support 'Auto Low Latency Mode' (ALLM) and/or 'Instant Game Response'.
Does disabling 'Auto Low Latency Mode' (ALLM) and/or 'Instant Game Response' mitigate or lower the frequency of the issue?
From the unofficial tracking comment over on /r/nvidia at https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ioiqls/_/mcjmraj/
^ was present in the 572.16 tracking comment as well
bellefs@reddit
I have the lg 32gs95ue-b oled and 5080 gaming trio. Crashes under load if I use my additional monitors..
Zirkoz@reddit
I'm finally home after one week and i can confirm 572.41 drivers fixes the crashes in cyberpunk, assassins's creed mirage and all the game i've tried not 3Dmark speedway sadly.
I'm on an I7 13700K, MSI Z790 Carbon Wifi, 32GO Corsair dominator CL36 DDR5, nzxt C1200 Gold PSU.
I hope the driver for the 20th of february will fix everything FINGERS CROSSED
m_w_h@reddit
Good to know, thanks for the follow-up - appreciated :-)
Kemaro@reddit
I have tested extensively with ALLM off or on on my LG C2 and it didn't seem to make a difference. .16 I would crash every time I ran time spy or speed way at 120hz, ran fine at 60hz. On .41, I was never able to reproduce a single crash. On .42, time spy and speed way will run maybe 60% of the time at 120hz but crash every 4th or 5th run or so.
m_w_h@reddit
Thanks, appreciated but I have that report from our discussion/testing back in 572.16 where I also also forwarded all reports to a Nvidia rep i.e.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1idme1q/game_ready_studio_driver_57216_faqdiscussion/mc1m50o/
Might just be the CX but want to rule out ALLM LG firmware issue, recent CX posts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iiafjd/5090_fe_blackscreenbluescreen_when_connecting_tv/mb3y4ek/
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ioiqls/game_ready_driver_57242_faqdiscussion/mcqvcri/
Kemaro@reddit
Could be an issue with specific firmware(s) for the LG C2 as well. I have mine blocked from updating firmware as the latest firmwares released for the C2 at the beginning of January have a nasty VRR bug that causes massive flickering in the 60-70hz range.
m_w_h@reddit
The VRR bug could also be triggered by driver issues e.g. see https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1g9i6ot/_/lt70jqr/
Just concerned that some (not all) of the black screen issues are display firmware related and therefore a red herring.
Next driver will hopefully contain the workarounds that are present in 572.41 but not 572.42.
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah I’m noticing a lot of different bugs seem to be getting lumped into the ‘black screen issue’ category. In my case, I am currently using 572.42 and all of the games I play run great. I can only repro the high refresh rate bugcheck crash in 3dmark, which I have no need to run at this point.
Himuo@reddit
I do indeed have a LG C2 but I'm on .41 Beta now and don't plan to try the .42 drivers, I've lost enough time testing what Nvidia should have done to begin with.
But one way to verify this : is there someone here who had the issue without "displays that support 'Auto Low Latency Mode' (ALLM) and/or 'Instant Game Response'." ?
m_w_h@reddit
Fair, however without testing and reports to root cause any fixes/workarounds may be delayed.
LG C2/CX and similar displays using LG panels/firmware were specifically requested as there's a long term issue since Ampere that may be trigged by ALLM / Instant Game Response.
For reference - I'm not a Nvidia employee, not a /r/nvidia moderator, just a fellow Redditor helping the /r/nvidia community by tracking issues, collating information/troubleshooting and passing on reports/findings to Nvidia for ~5 years.
ramsito82@reddit
With this latest driver 572.42 I can at least use one of the 3 monitors in my setup, I can run all the benchmarks and games at 4k 240hz as long as the other two monitors are disabled.
With 2 or 3 active monitors Windows works correctly, games and benchmarks end up on a black screen after a short time blocking the PC and having to restart it from the button.
bellefs@reddit
This is my exact issue with 5080 gaming trio..
Single 4k 240hz hdmi no problem.. add any additional monitor and it crashes under load
sillybonobo@reddit
I'm having similar but not exactly the same issues on my 5080. After extensive troubleshooting I'm 99% sure there's something really messed up with this driver. Several major games like cyberpunk and control are having major crashing issues. Black screens, blue screens, loss of video output. These drivers seem half-baked
Worth_Efficiency4597@reddit
Having similar issues. When browsing the web and idling the screens go black (disconnect from GPU) and fans go straight to 100%. Only way to stop this is to hold the power button and wait for the PC to shut off. Played 2-3hrs BO6 without any issues but tried to download a game and about half way through with nothing else running it randomly crashed again. GPU was sitting at 21C whilst CPU (9800X3D) at around 38C. Looks to be somewhat random and I can't replicate well. Any idea?
compddd@reddit
Are you on Windows 11 24H2
sillybonobo@reddit
No, 23h2. I tried 24h2 and had problems with almost every peripheral I own lol. Swapped back immediately
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Set your refresh rate to 60hz on all your monitors. Since you are on 23h2, it should fix your problems.
sillybonobo@reddit
But then I have to have 60hz monitors. I'd much rather just use the HDMI cable till it's fixed
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Nice find! I'll add that to the initial post.
sillybonobo@reddit
Yes I have a 3440x1440 at 175 hz and a 1440p at 144 hz.
With DP connections on both monitors no matter what ports I'm using in the graphics card I crash loading cyberpunk and often on boot as well.
But with a single DP monitor or one monitor on HDMI and one on DP, I can run both monitors at full refresh and play cyberpunk no problem.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Are you in W11 24H2 ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
He is on W11 23H2.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Ok well that settle it , another annoying issue with 24H2 it seems.
DdaaHeining@reddit
This also doesn’t work for Windows 10, i always use 1 Monitor HDMI and 1 DP. The crashes still appear on 144 and 240hz. So might be time to Upgrade to Windows 11 23H2 for me.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
After Reading a lot about the problems you guys are experiencing, it seems to look like a displayport issue running at high refresh rate.
But i still don't know why 24h2 seems to just refuse to work.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
At least you're able to use your setup until a fix arrives. Great to hear that!
compddd@reddit
Yeah same here, 24H2 is hot garbage.
Crayten@reddit
u/zpinto1234
The issues doesn't just happen to MSI cards.
There is already a bunch of comments here and on the nvidia driver feedback thread from owner of different brand models with the same issues.
MSI Cards just had the biggest stock so far so that's why we are seeing so many of them with these problems.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Keep in mind that many users thinks they have that particular issue but they don't, afaik we have specifics triggers.
LamyiS@reddit
I use MSI GTX1650 Ventus XS OC. These black screen issues happen to me.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, there are more brand models that have these issues, but I haven't seen any ASUS RTX 5090 (TUF/ASTRAL), with these issues. I have seen an ASUS PRIME RTX 5080 though.
Relevant-Radio-3860@reddit
Same issue with a 5080 aorus waterforce. Only solved by locking my screen at 60hz, or downclocking the core at -150mhz.. Tried both official drivers, updated everything.. That's pretty disappointing.
Castaway_addict@reddit
How long have you tested at -150mhz and what is the resolution and refresh rate of your display?
Relevant-Radio-3860@reddit
For the moment I've tested 2 hours of the wukong benchmark, which leads to a black screen in few seconds at stock clock. Also played 3 hours of Elden ring full ultra RT.
I play on a 4K 120hz TV.
Phounus@reddit
Same issues. I've been running a lot of AI stuff without any issues - which is a lot more taxing than games (basically running it at \~560W, 99% usage with the VRAM at \~26GB for 40-50 min cycles a couple of times a day).
I was in the middle of a GoW: Ragnarök playthrough when I swapped to my 5090 - and I can play all but maybe 10 seconds before my monitor goes black. Game seems to keep running in the background as I can hear the game. Only a hard reset will fix the issue.
I have
I have the 572.42 driver installed since a couple of days. I feel that the new driver did not change much, but I haven't done any extensive testing.
This is extremely annoying and I'm considering swapping my old 3080 back in the case just so I can play some games - but as I run a lot of AI workloads atm it just does not make sense to swap cards in/out of the case just to play a game or two...
I know people have been yelling "paper launch" at the 50XX-series of cards, and while I disagree with the terminology it feels really rushed. CUDA 12.8 is barely supported (to be fair it was launched on Feb 7, but even that is strange as afaik the Blackwell architecture needs it to function and it should have been available on day 1) and new versions of stuff like Kaolin seem to be months away. I get that development happens during and after a launch due to availability to teams, but this seems a bit excessive.
And while I don't have any data to back this up, I did have a friend that reported the same "black screen" issue on his 4080 around the time of the 5080/90 launch but it was seemingly fixed shortly after. I don't think it is related but I will mention it in case others have heard of similar related issues.
Traditional-Gur-3079@reddit
I wanted to write my own experience in hopes of finding a solution.
Specs
9800x3d
x870e Hero
Gainward phantom 5090
Win 11 24H2
LG C1 + an old asus monitor + a TV connected sometimes (not during bench)
I am seeing a pattern that most people who seem to have this problem have either 1) AMD CPUs 2) Gainward, Palit, FE or MSI Trio cards (this is probably not relevant) 3) using LG TV monitors? especially seeing LG C2 often.
I started my journey by black screening right after windows loading screen with bios not recognizing GPU at all and sometimes Bios failing to even post. After a bios update this was fixed and I was able to get to Windows. At first when LG C1 was still 60hz I had no problem with few passes in speedway. As soon as I switched to 120hz black screen freeze problem happened and the interesting thing is that switching to 60hz back did not resolve the issue like it did for many others here, after that point I started having black screen issues in 60hz as well. Trying many suggestions I saw in the net provided little solution until I saw the 75% Power target -350 core clock suggestion which seems to have fixed the issue for now (well, to be fair I only have done 1 successful speedway test as I write this, I never had one successful in 120hz before though). Also if it has any relevance, I disabled Game Optimizer in LG menu which might have had a hand in this weird problem? No idea.
Any tips would be welcome.
backfire7098@reddit
I use Samsung Odyssey 4K monitor + Gainward 5090. Though most reports including myself use AMD CPU.
LamyiS@reddit
I use LG 24GS60F and this happened too.
fluxrez@reddit
I had a similar issue that I was able to fix by disabling the onboard integrated graphics on my motherboard bios.
LamyiS@reddit
Sadly, I can't turn it on/off because of I3-9100F is non integrate graphic cpu
kazoo_kitty@reddit
Same issue, my screen goes black like a monitor reset. Only 1x 60hz monitor in use. I do play VR and I was given a whole bunch of display port errors after playing on my index for 2 hours, It still didn't work after a full restart.
MSI Carbon 870xe
9800x3D
5090 FE
1200w PSU
Things were running rock solid on my 4090 only changed is the FE
speedycringe@reddit
Having the same exact issues
9800x3d - 5090 Trio
Neven076@reddit
Same problem here with Inno 3D's 5090. Like many of you, lock the fresh rate to 60hz fix the problem.
My configuration :
-LG C2 42" (120Hz compatible) with 8K HDMi wire. -7800X3D -Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX Rev 1.0 -16go Corsair DDR5 Vengeance X2 -Seasonic Vertex GX 1200W -RTX 5090 Inno3D -Windows 10 ghost 22H2
After that, i play with a 3080 without any problem.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Did you tried the BETA Drivers ? This could "fix" the issue while waiting for NVIDIA to properly fix it.
Also yay a new AIB board lol !
Neven076@reddit
Yes, i was worried to not see my AiB in any thread 😅 No, i haven't tried. Is it available on the NVIDIA driver website?
zac228@reddit
572.41 beta driver doesn't fix the case like yours and mine, through HDMI2.1 or DSC. The best solution for now is to lower the core e.g. -350mhz and power down to 75%, or, you can keep on 60hz and wait NV's update driver. I'm so sad in this too.
LamyiS@reddit
I use a GTX1650. How can I lower the Core and decrease power? (I'm a beginner about this)
zac228@reddit
msi afterburner, you can find a guide online
anonymapersonen@reddit
I have the same problem
backfire7098@reddit
What are your specs?
anonymapersonen@reddit
AMD 7950X3D
ASUS TUF GAMING X670 PLUS
32GB DDR5 Corsair Fury 6000 MHz CL36
Monitors:
XF252Q X (25", 240Hz)
LC27G7xT (Odyssey G7, 27", 240Hz)
UnL1k3@reddit
I have the same black screening issue as I posted before, this post is just to highlight my specs.
Ryzen 7 9800x3D Gigabyte X870 Gaming X Wifi7 (BIOS: F3) 32GB (2x 16GB) Kingston Fury Beast 6000Mhz CL30 Gigabyte RTX 5080 Aero OC (Tried all drivers available including beta) Corsair RM850e (2022) connected to GPU via dual 8 pin to 12vhpwr Corsair official cable. SSDs: Adata Legend 960 1TB, Adata XPG Gammix S70 Blade 1TB (Boot Drive), WD Blue 500GB (Gen3 SSD, not sure what the exact model is) Windows 11 Pro (Tried with 23H2 and 24H2) Temps have been stellar, nothing above 70c.
Monitor: Asus TUF 2K 180Hz (VG27AQ3A) - Tried using multiple Display Port and HDMI cables.
Only solution that works for me: Set core clocks to -380Mhz. This fix works on all drivers including the beta. Had one 2 second black screen while watching YouTube off all things but otherwise has been fine for hours.
CeFurkan@reddit
I have black screen problem as well. 2 monitors plugged. 1 runs at 144 hz other one runs at 60. it restarts and 3d apps crashes
threebills11@reddit
A few people posted at my local MC about the Gigabyte card specifically having black screens/bad graphics/running at 10-15 fps and shutting down.Being my store has only sold like 15-20 5090 cards that I know of this is concerning.Jays2cents also has a video on testing the Zotac solid(beta card you can’t buy) that did the 10-15 fps thing and at the time he believed it to be a software/driver issue,also said it started happening after he DL’d the OC software for Zotac.I’m betting people that paid 11k bucks on Ebay having this problem are pissed.
Kemaro@reddit
This is typically (but not always) caused by using msi afterburner as there are major issues with the nvidia driver and afterburner at the moment. Moving the power slider at all will break boost clocks and additionally, using manual voltage control can lock the GPU to running between 600-700mhz. In order to fix this, you need to uninstall afterburner and then DDU the nvidia driver followed by a fresh driver install. Do not use Afterburner until this is fixed if this applies to you.
Electrical-Hornet465@reddit
我的電腦是用Nvidia 顯卡，最近開機的情況很怪異，時好時壞，有一段時間開機時出現怪音，像似硬蝶壞軌的聲音，強迫關機後，隔個一星期，再開又正常，如此反復，感覺像是作業系統的問題
Himuo@reddit
Ok vu.
maxmw@reddit
So I managed to get hold of an ASUS Prime GeForce RTX 5080, I have slotted that into my PC and have taken out the GIGABYTE 5080 GAMING OC which is black screening. Now I need to test this more so don't draw any conclusions yet, but the ASUS card is rock stable so far for me on both the BETA driver 572.41 and 572.42. If the ASUS card does continue to be stable in my tests is does suggest a problem with specific card models.
UnL1k3@reddit
Very interesting, this explains why we haven't seen many (if any? I havent seen any) ASUS card owners complaining about said issue.
kasseg_37@reddit
I have ASUS prime and I have black screen issues (not sure it’s black, my tv just say “no signal”) very often. Almost every startup (not wake up from sleep, even restarts) I have no signal and have to do some tricks to make 4k144hz work. It’s so annoying.
But I have not crashes as many people said. Since I get picture working, it’s stable for me until next reboot.
Also gpu doesn’t work at all with bios pcie auto mode. I have to set 4.0 manually first (msi b650i edge WiFi).
I have no issues with my 4070 ti super , it was super stable
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah right, then we are in the same boat. Thanks for the heads up. Nvidia really has some fixing to do asap. Yeah my 3080 was super stable too, it is definitely the card that is causing the issue.
kasseg_37@reddit
The saddest thing is that nvidia still doesn't seem to understand how to solve this problem. As I understand it, they can't even reproduce the problem.
Maybe we need to connect popular bloggers?
UnL1k3@reddit
Gamers Nexus seems to be doing their own testing apparently.
kasseg_37@reddit
Nice to hear that
Himuo@reddit
Yes, mainly MSI and Gygabite so far
maxmw@reddit
Yeah I posted the same thing on the Nvidia forum and one person claims they have black screening issue on an Asus card but that's the first report on Asus I have seen
kasseg_37@reddit
I have a big problem with the operation of 4k144hz resolution on my RTX 5080 ASUS Prime OC and Samsung S95C. With 4070Ti Super I just used tv Game mode and 4k144hz resolution with chroma 4:4:4. It was very stable without any issues. On my 5080 I can only use 4k144hz chroma 4:2:2 resolution in game mode. But it’s very often is not working with “No signal” message. But sometimes it works. Other chromas are never working. This tv uses DSC with no way to disable it. So probably problem is driver behavior with dsc hdmi mode. I have found some workarounds to make it work: 1) when I see “No signal” on my tv after pc starts or wake up, I turn Game Mode to off. 2) sometimes it helps and it leads me to 4k60hz and I can see the picture 3) after that I turning game mode to On. 4) sometimes it helps and it starts to work with 4k144 chroma 4:2:2 again But mostly it’s not enough and game mode off is still “no signal”. So I have another setting in tv called hdmi signal plus. When I disable it, resolution reseted to 4k30 and this mode (game mode off + signal plus off = 4k30) works pretty stable. Probably tv is not using DSC in that config, I’m not sure. So after this I’m Going to CRU (custom resolution utility) folder, and executing “reset-all.exe”. Which reseting resolutions setting for my tv to default. Then I focus on “restart64.exe”, enabling Game Mode on tv, got “no signal” message and hit Enter on keyboard (blind execution of focused “restart64.exe”). After that I can see the picture, but resolution is set to 4k60hz after resetting with cru. But now I’m on game mode. So after that, I can go and switch resolution to 4k144hz chroma 4:2:2 and 50/50 it will work. If it’s not working, I have to do all the procedure from the start (disable game mode, disable signal plus, resetting with cru etc). But since I have 4k144hz 4:2:2 works, it’s became stable. Until next PC shutdown/sleep/hibernating. More things to think about. As I can see, now I can enable DLDSR in manage 3d options, which was never able for me on 4070ti super (because of DSC on my tv). I think driver working with dsc another way now, but it’s not stable.
Slider_Override@reddit
Do we have any updates from nvidia, is nvidia still working on the Blackscreen issue ?
We we still have here some ppl which are testing new drivers for nvidia to resolve the issue ?
I send daily a reminder to nvidia, and send also MEMORY.DMP and logs to them, but did not get any feedback at all. (no first contact with them yet)
MSI told me they are waiting for nvidia as well.
Its currently realy frustrating :-( to to get any updates. I am from Germany and I pay >3000€ for the card, and the price increased already to >3600€ to I don't like to send it back.
Also because there is no other card in stock at all.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Have MSI 5090 Trio OC, no problems at all
No crashes, no black screens.... monitor at 144Hz all the time, tested also at lower refresh rates
It's probably driver issue
highserotonin@reddit
no blackscreen issue with my MSI 5090 Trio OC, though get a weird issue using two monitors (one hdmi, one displayport different refersh rates) and switching to fullscreen on application. though im facing other struggles that im trying to troubleshoot.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yes they are working on it, it's one of the top issue right now.
We are doing tests and progress on all the possible causes and solutions, i'm trying to keep this thread updated.
Some of us are testing different cards and will post results here.
Like what u/Kemaro had in mind the other day, i'm leaning towards a conflict between some OCs GPUs and how they manage data/bandwidth. So far i've seen reports of : MSI 5090/80 Gaming Trio OC, MSI 5090 Surpim Liquid, Gigabyte 5080 Aero and Gaming OC, Gainward Phantom 5090 (probably others that i missed)
The bandaid fixes we found to be working are the following :
- Lower drastically the refresh rate (E.g. 144hz down to 60hz)
- Lower drastically the clocks (E.g. -400Mhz)
Slider_Override@reddit
Thanks, yeah the -400 works currently, please keep up updated, on you testing with nvidia's beta drivers
zac228@reddit
and my gigabyte 5080 windforce oc
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Ty, so almost all of the GB models it seems.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Which setting you have in Bios for PCIe slot?
5,4,auto...?
Kemaro@reddit
Is anyone actively in contact with nvidia regarding this issue? They have been radio silent to me since sending the 572.41 beta driver to test a few days ago. I need to know if I should return my gaming trio oc. I don't have much time left.
m_w_h@reddit
Sent findings from today to NVIDIA, note the Linux test - https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1iieber/_/mcx0jb0/
A new driver is likely due 20th February for 5070Ti launch, current drivers don't have 5070Ti VEN_DEV-IDs in the installer INFs. Hopefully that driver addresses the issue.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Nothing from my side. They went radio silent when they escalated to 2nd level support.
UnL1k3@reddit
They're really treating us very badly huh, same radio silence for me as well. Gigabyte has just not even bothered responding to my support ticket. I really feel like I should return it get a refund and get a 4090 since it seems to be easily available where I live.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Nothing but Manuel said in the GeForce forums that they are working on it and it's a top issue for them.
Also MSI is in contact with them apparently.
Kemaro@reddit
He also said he would add it to the open issues list two days ago and hasn’t done that. So I’m starting to worry that I should just return my card.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Isnt your card working right now tho ?
Kemaro@reddit
In the games I’ve tried yes but 3dmark still blackscreens above 60hz and .41 reduced my gpu performance by a lot.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Well if you can try and get an ASUS i guess yeah you should return... I'm myself rien behind keeping it and enjoying what's working until it's 100% fixed or returning and going back to 7900XTX... But man DLSS4 is something.
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah I’m torn. I just don’t want to be stuck with a lemon card or have to deal with a prolonged rma process with msi. I want to sell my old gpu while the market is still up for them but I’m afraid to sell it til I know if I’ll be keeping the 5090.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Pretty much the same... But seeing how it's not only MSI give me hope tho
UnL1k3@reddit
So I have made an interesting observation on my Gigabyte Aero 5080 OC. When lowering clocks to -380Mhz there are 0 black screens. That is the only way I am able to run games. Tested Crysis 3 Remastered (2K Max RT No DLSS), Cyberpunk (2K Max PT DLSS Balanced FG 2x), Metro Exodus PC Enhanced Edition (2K Max), 3DMark Speedway (Never black screened before), all of which black screened to varying degrees before. Yes performance has taken a hit but at least I can play games for now. This worked on both the beta driver (372.41) and the public release (372.42 which is what I am using now). As someone pointed out the beta driver just lowered clocks but in my case probably not low enough.
zac228@reddit
Pls send your feedback on NV forum and let them be aware. This is a very important solution perhaps. Let me try this now.
Himuo@reddit
Is there a main thread on Nvidia forum to discuss this ?
zac228@reddit
GeForce GRD 572.42 反馈线程 （ |NVIDIA GeForce 论坛
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Pretty sure it's one of the things NVIDIA do know, since the beta driver does exactly this.
zac228@reddit
It indeed works!!! I lower my RTX5080 from silent 2670mhz core to 2400mhz, power limit down to 75% or 70%. No black screens and flickers at all for 10 mins by now when gaming, i tried 2 games by far. It's unbelievable. I want to try -???mhz is the best option, but i think no need to do that cuz god D Nvidia has to do something to fix this ASAP!
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Are you with the Gaming Trio OC ? If so try to use the MSI Center App (yes i know...)
It seems to use a different base boost than the Silent/Gaming switch on the card.
zac228@reddit
i'm Gigabyte 5080 windforce oc
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Ok, i'm like 99.99% sure there is nothing to worry about the hardware, all points out to OC cards being weird with their boosts and bandwidth interaction.
NVIDIA and MSI/GB needs all the infos we can get.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Mine is MSI Trio OC, works without any problems
zac228@reddit
yeah, but i'm not sure to - how much is the best, i'm sick to do this for my 5080, but now i'm fine using 2400mhz core until NVIDIA update a good driver.
UnL1k3@reddit
Done.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Tagging u/m_w_h , We've made progress and think we found ? one ? of the reasons of the black screens crash issues the OC cards are dealing with.
It seems like OC cards can't deal with the boosts and high refresh rates, the 2 working bandaid fixes we found to be working 100% of the time are :
- Lower drastically the refresh rate (E.g. 144hz down to 60hz)
- Lower drastically the clocks (E.g. -400Mhz)
m_w_h@reddit
tagging /u/pidge2k - black screen mitigations on 5080/5090
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Thanks !
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Well, if the core clock is indeed the problem, I'm already seeing NVIDIA doing an Intel and just reduce the clock quite a bit and thus making the RTX 5090 slower than normal.
That could definitely lead to NVIDIA being sued, I'd assume.
UnL1k3@reddit
And suddenly my 5080 is literally a 4080 😂
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Uff.. this generation is just hot garbage to be honest..
UnL1k3@reddit
Shhh we have multi frame gen 😭
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Yes I observed lowered clock speeds too.
zac228@reddit
thank you for that too, i saw yours. Let's see if it addresses all for me. I'm testing.
Himuo@reddit
Nice observation, looks like it's indeed the problem core.
Let's hope they won't just lower Mhz for everyone and get on with it, and find an actual solution... Otherwise I don't see the point to buy an OC card...
UnL1k3@reddit
The stable clocks on my card are far below even reference. It's actually a bit slower than a 4080 😂 Yeah I hope that isn't the "solution" Nvidia gives us. I'll just return the card in that case and get a 4080 super.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
So it could be a weird bug of how High clocks interact with high refresh rates ? I'm not that smart to understand how it's even possible tho
UnL1k3@reddit
🤷🏾 who knows
First_Motor_403@reddit
I've finally managed to get a somewhat stable setting going on my msi trio 5090 by setting the link speed to gen 3. If I have it on gen 4 or 5 I get stuttering and crashes generally within 5-15 seconds of booting into windows 11 just on the desktop. No chance to run any programs..
Managed to play 6 hours of final fantasy rebirth on 120fps 4k on a 240hz Oled monitor. I'm happy just to be able to use it and ive seen reports the performance difference between gen 3 and 5 are only 1-4% so I can live with that until nvidia fix this mess. This is also on the latest driver not the beta.
If anyone has a similar crashing scenario to me then gen 3 seems to be the way to go.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Did you try in Auto? In bios
Have the same card, works without problems
And when I check/test the card it works in PCIe 5 gen
First_Motor_403@reddit
Yes tried auto and the same issue happens! Just can't get my head round it it was frustrating me more and more so when I got lucky with gen 3 I just accepted it. Part of me thinks maybe I have a faulty card but going to give it a couple more months before I think about RMA
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
I don't believe it's faulty card, probably drivers issue
Brand new hardware and it needs driver optimization which takes time
First_Motor_403@reddit
I hope so, as if it was a faulty card then i wouldn't of thought it would work in gen 3 either but it's been solid and I've run many benchtests too.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Exactly
ramsito82@reddit
I just returned it to the store, I'm tired of Nvidia not taking any action regarding the problems that many of us have.
This smells really bad and is probably a massive hardware failure.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I doubt it’s a massive failure globally. Probably a driver issue but idk how did Asus manage to get away
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I think it's how MSI and maybe Gigabyte (others i'm pretty sure it's not the issues we are dealing with) did their factory OC and bandwidth control.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
MSI 5090 Trio OC
Works without problems from the beginning
Tested stock, tested undervolted, higher refresh rates, lower...
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
Hello.
I post here to say that I have the same issue : black screen few minutes after 3DMark TimeSpy or playing games (Spider-Man 2. No other game tested yet).
RTX 5090 MSI Gaming Trio (Is this issue only for MSI GPU ???)
I have 572.16 Nvidia drivers.
Windows 11 24H2.
Only one monitor PG38UQ, working on DP 1,4.
The problems started when I installed my new GPU today.
I had zero issue with my 4090 Gaming Trio...
As OP said, no matter the refresh rate, 144hz or 60hz, it freezes and I have to reboot the PC manually with the Power button...
Wish us luck guys !
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Also having MSI 5090 Gaming Trio OC, no problems at all.
Monitor at 144Hz all the time, no crashes, no black screens .....
Does your PCIe slot where GPU is, have lane sharing?
It's just a guess, maybe that can be the culprit.
But it seems to me that all of this is driver related.
I have MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi + 9800X3D
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
I have returned my 5090 but to answer you, on my X870E Tomahawk + 9800X3D, there is no bandwith sharing of the PCIe.
BIOS up to date.
Maybe the problem was the fact that I was in "forced" PCIe 5 and not in auto or in 4 ?
We will see when I will buy a new 5090 from an other brand
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
I'm in Auto in Bios.
And when I check/test the card it works in PCIe 5
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately I am starting to see way too many people with a Gaming Trio. I do know it was one of the most available brands, but it's starting to worry me, because if it's brand related, then it could mean an hardware issue and not a driver issue.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
Hi, have the same card, Gaming Trio, no problems at all
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
What're your specs?
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
MSI X670E Gaming Plus Wifi
9800X3D
Kingston Fury 32Gb 6000MHz
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
Have you seen other custom 5090 with this issue ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
To be honest, I'm no sure I've seen. I have seen others with a Gigabyte RTX 5080 with issues like this.
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
What are your plans ? Refunding ? Waiting a driver update ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I still have 12 days of a return window. I'll probably wait 10 days at most, and then return it if no fix is out.
I'm just seeing too many Gaming Trios to be comfortable with this...
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I stress tested using 3DMark with my Gaming Trio OC 5090, nothing happened worked as expected. Cyberpunk seems to be the only issue for me and that’s why I don’t think it is hardware related (hopefully)
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Is your motherboard BIOS up to date ?
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
It is updated to the last version
LamyiS@reddit
Using Rivatuner to Limit FPS works for me (limit only programs).
GTX1650 4GB DDR5 Monitor with DP 180Hz Warframe (Rivatuner FPS Cap 60 frame rates)
zac228@reddit
It indeed works!!! I see lots lots of black screens and flickers in 8K/60hz or 4K/120hz previously with Driver 572.16-42. But now, by using Beta driver 572.41, I lower my RTX5080 from silent 2670mhz core to 2400mhz, power limit down to 75% or 70%. No black screens and flickers at all for 10 mins by now when gaming, i tried 2 games by far. It's unbelievable, i'm not sure if 0 black screens for like gaming a day later. And I want to try -???mhz is the best option, but i think no need to do that cuz god D Nvidia has to do something to fix this ASAP!
CoffeeBlowout@reddit
Not experiencing any issues with my TUF OC 5080.
Using an Intel Core Ultra 285K and 4K 240Hz OLED with 12-bit HDR and GSync and 4K 160Hz 12-bit HDR and GSync.
All works flawlessly.
JYLau2@reddit
Hi! Could you lmk what’s the motherboard are you using? I’m having serious black screen issue (seconds after logging into OS) and I’m using Ultra 265k. I’m suspecting something wrong with PCIE5.0 and the new 1851 motherboards.
backfire7098@reddit
I have the same exact issue with Gainward Phantom 5090 on the latest driver released. It is not specific to MSI or Asus. I will try with beta as suggested, and report back.
nath999@reddit
Same processor with a 5080 and have not been crashing on the beta drivers. Definitely not going to update anything at the moment cause I can finally use my GPU.
zac228@reddit
thx for sharing this beta 572.41 feedback, i'll try it for my gigabyte 5080 572.42 still seeing black screens/fl | NVIDIA GeForce Forums
nath999@reddit
I have a gigabyte 5080 too.
Himuo@reddit
Good to know it's not only on MSI products, ty for your feeedback.
Try to install de beta drivers with the option "clean install" as I did, maybe it helps too.
backfire7098@reddit
It definitely helped, updated the post. Apart from this issue I have serious coil whine that is audible from a meter under load. Do MSI cards also have that too?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Hey , i own the gaming trio oc like most of us here and my card have next to no coil whine, using hx1500i for reference.
Kemaro@reddit
Can corroborate, 5090 gaming trio and a corsair rm1000x 2024 model with native 2x6 connector. No coil whine audible over ambient case noise at 1 meter in any scenario.
backfire7098@reddit
Thanks for the feedback. Will definitely try with different PSU to see if it changes. I noticed that it gets louder on game menus where fps is increased, limiting the fps helped a bit. Will try undervolting etc to see where it goes.
backfire7098@reddit
Thank you for your reply. I have Asus ROG Strix 1000W PSU. Previously used 3090 and 4080 with slight whine but this is the highest level of coil whine that I have ever heard from a GPU, sometimes surpassing the CPU fan noise. Maybe my PSU is the problem when combined with Ryzen 9 5950X. Card’s own fan noise is quite low compared to the coil whine.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You should look around if anyone with this card got similar experiences but it's quite random sadly
I had the loudest whine with my hx1000 psu when set to multi rail, no whine in single, i think your psu is single tho.
backfire7098@reddit
It is single rail PSU as far as I know. I believe due to the limited supply it is really hard to find reviews, I actually bought gainward because it was the one available in my country. Hope it is a PSU issue, will try to get my hands on another PSU to at least try (out of budget to get a new one). It is sad that even if I return it I can’t get another one right away.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
In some rare cases cool whine could totally go away too, so there is that.
Happened to me with my PS4 actually.
backfire7098@reddit
Hope so. Read that there are some FE cards have similar sound: https://youtube.com/shorts/zZZhwtln3Vc
I have the card for <24 hours. How much time did it take for PS4 to get quiet?
With this coil whine + the black/gray screen errors I thought I had a card with serious hardware fault. Luckily found this post. At least one issue is partly being resolved.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Oh boy i think it took years lol
backfire7098@reddit
Thank you again for the info. I hopefully expected you to say few days 😀
Himuo@reddit
Ok I tried Beta drivers .41 for 2 hours now, and in my case I've got 0 black screen crash.
(I've got an 5090 MSI Gaming Trio OC)
I've played mainly FF7 Rebirth because I had guaranteed crash on this game with prior drivers.
Here are my configurations :
- Drivers Beta 572.41, installed with "clean install" from custom option in the installation .exe. I did NOT use DDU.
- NO power limitation
- Driver setting : Gsync ON + Performance priority
- 4K monitor, 120 Hz, no FPS or Hz cap
- Second monitor 1440p 144Hz plugged in and turned on
- Windows 11 lastest version
- Hardware Acceleration in Windows : ON
- Motherboard : ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-F GAMING WIFI II
- Latest BIOS installed (december 2024)
- NOT forcing Pcie Gen 4, I let it in "Auto"
- Processor : Intel i9 13900K
- In game : no FPS cap, 4K ultra graphics.
- Tried with DLSS (+/- 350 w consumption) and without (+/- 500 w consuption)
- Tried different ingame scenario (exploring in open world, inside dungeon, combats, cutscenes, different places)
So this is of course an early impression and on one game only (but this was the only one I got crashes before, I had no problem with Cyberpunk or less demading games like Solar Ash).
Now I'm gonna play Monster Hunter Wilds Beta for a while and let you know on this discussion if anything happens.
I did NOT test .42 drivers because it seems it doesnt improve anything. Gonna stay on .41 for a while.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Thank you for detailed post. Did you notice any performance drop with the beta driver? I've had 5% lower performance compared to 572.42 and 100mhz lower Gpu clock speeds. Some people still suffer from crashes even on the Beta driver. I'm thinking about returning my card since Asus owners don't seem to have any problems, might as well switch to Asus.
Himuo@reddit
Sorry, I didn't measured the clock speeds on .16 drivers and I didn't tried .42 (seems pointless).
I didnt do any benchmarks either :x
I'm just gonna keep playing different games until I can replicate the crashing issues I had (hopefully not !)
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
So far so good ?
Himuo@reddit
I played all day at different games and so far not a single crash !
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
That's great news !
What's is your monitor/TV setup ?
Himuo@reddit
- 4K TV (LG C2) plugged in with HDMI, 120 Hz
- Second monitor 1440p 144Hz plugged in and turned on
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Been doing more testing on my C4, so far so good.
GSYNC and Reflex both works as expected, locking me at 144hz on my LG C4 , ultra smooth.
I'll try Avowed soon and see how it goes on a freshly released game.
Still on BETA .41 too.
maxmw@reddit
If you get a chance try the wukong benchmark (it's free on steam) with everything cranked to cinematic, ray tracing ultra high and frame gen on and try to do a few runs.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Hey again dude, i think i found a potential fix for FrameGen related issues the other day.
You have to optimize the game with the NVIDIA App, launch the game DO NOT change anything in the settings, hit play and see how it feels.
After that close the game, launch it again and you should be free to tweak any settings you want.
Sptzz@reddit
This is unacceptable though and should be reported to nvidia
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
NVIDIA is pathetic, that close to sell that shit and be done with this company.
Should have stayed with AMD
Sptzz@reddit
Unfortunately they can do this because they got us cornered. AMD is years behind in RT, upscaling etc
Himuo@reddit
I did as you asked and ran it 2 times :
- One time without framegen (+/- 60 FPS)
- One time with framegen (+/- 110 FPS)
With DLSS (no option to turn it off it seems)
Every graphics settings at max "cinematics" + ray tracing ultra
The card was pumping 575w both times and not a single crash occured !
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You had crashes before the BETA Drivers right ?
Starting to feel like there is a HUGE list of problems and all act differently based on the overhaul setup.
Seems like Intel users might have more luck with the BETA Driver.
Himuo@reddit
Yeah, I crash almost instant crashes with FF7 at least.
With cyberpunk I only had a crash once, when the game menu was loading (not even the game itself).
Still testing Cyberpunk right now, promising so far, will update my post later
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I only tested cyberpunk with 41 and it was flawless, only had a game crash because AB and the NVIDIA App managed to crash when alt tabin
Himuo@reddit
Indeed, 1h of Cyberpunk at full capacity (Ultra for everything) : no crash at all
Tested with and without DLSS, and also with and without Framegen : it made no difference.
Card was fully loaded with 575w consumption.
maxmw@reddit
Okay thanks for testing
trustonaby@reddit
Try frame gen with beta drives for me seems very slughish
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Hey dude, i think i found a potential fix for FrameGen related issues the other day.
You have to optimize the game with the NVIDIA App, launch the game DO NOT change anything in the settings, hit play and see how it feels.
After that close the game, launch it again and you should be free to tweak any settings you want.
Himuo@reddit
Just did on Wilds, no stuterring or any problem with it, felt right.
Gonna try it on Cyberpunk later today.
Himuo@reddit
1 hour of MH Wilds Beta, no black screen crash so far. Same configuration as FF7.
I'm going to test Cyberpunk later today as it seems to crash for other people.
Crayten@reddit
Since many are still reading the newest replies here:
Latest answer by answer:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/557200/geforce-grd-57242-feedback-thread-released-21325/3500287/
UnL1k3@reddit
Bruh they don't even know why its happening. First time I've bought an early access GPU.
Armbrust11@reddit
I think they were rushing to beat Trump tariffs, which is also why supplies were so limited.
UnL1k3@reddit
From what I read supply is limited because of Chinese new year which is when all the workers get like 2 months off and supply will only ramp up after. But yes, this is for sure a rushed release to say the least lol
Kemaro@reddit
Mean while a day later, still not added to open issues list.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Long road ahead it seems... Ah well maybe our connectors will melt before it get fixed
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
If they say they don't yet understand what's causing these issues, that means more than 1 month to fix these issues. If not more...
Kemaro@reddit
The strange thing to me is that the beta driver actually fixed every issue I had with my 5090. It even fixed the sleep/idle bug where the monitor would lose signal until gpu driver crashed and reset itself. I am currently running 572.42 since all the games I play are working great and the only place I crash is in 3dmark.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Quick question for anyone that wants to answer it :
Who is using a "day one" Gaming OC here ? I doubt it's anything related but eh curiosity.
Kemaro@reddit
Idk what day one is but I bought mine in Micro Center on Friday Feb 7.
justinianoo@reddit
I think they meant factory overclock, meaning your card comes with preset overclock if it did.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Actually i meant thé vert first batch from release day, but your point is also interesting.
Seems like the Gaming Trio OC has the biggest base factory oc from all the AIB (even Astral and Suprim), could that be the source of all this ?
justinianoo@reddit
Could be the reason why it seems like the beta drivers only underclocks our cards to fix the issues, at least some of them.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
What are your specs?
Kemaro@reddit
5090 Gaming Trio OC, Asrock x870e Nova WiFi, 64gb 6000CL30, Corsair RM1000x 2024 model with native 2x6 cable and connector, w11 24h2
First_Motor_403@reddit
Hi Kemaro, My build is the same as yours apart from 32GB 6000Mhz CL30 Ram and a Antec HCG1200 Pro Plat ATX 3.1. Fresh Win 11 24h2 install and the mouse freezes/crashes within 5 seconds of any Nvidia driver being installed. Did you ever come across this? Also how's the Coil whine on your card as I have a feeling mine is louder then it should be (just moving the mouse in Windows causes it to whine)
I've manged to on occasion get the card to work if I set the Bios to Gen 3 PCIe then I can play for hours without issue but on restart it could crash again. So frustrating for such an expensive bit of kit.
Never had Black screen issues though mines always been full mouse lockups after 5-10 seconds of booting windows.
Kemaro@reddit
Sorry I haven’t had any issues with the mouse like you describe. My card has very minimal coil whine. I can’t hear it over ambient noise in my case while gaming. I tune my case fans to be quiet but still performant.
jamyjet@reddit
Update: nvidia support just confirmed a hotfix is being worked on and will be sent out very soon!
Kemaro@reddit
Can confirm. I received an email re: my feedback submission with a beta driver to test. I cannot provide any more details than this or share the driver publicly but rest assured Nvidia is aware and are working to fix it.
jamyjet@reddit
Exciting, are you not able to confirm if the driver at least fixes the black screen issue at high refresh rates?
Kemaro@reddit
Haven’t tested yet, just woke up to the email.
jamyjet@reddit
Well let us know ^^
Kemaro@reddit
Looking good so far. Passed both Speed Way and Time Spy Extreme. Going to do a 20 run stress test of Speed Way just to confirm but I am going to say this looks like it is fixed.
jamyjet@reddit
That's so good to hear, hoping the agent dealing with my case will share this beta driver with me. Time spy extreme was a guaranteed black screen for me at the graphics test.
Kemaro@reddit
Same here, both speed way and time spy were guaranteed black screen within 1-3 seconds for me. So happy this is resolved. Hopefully they do a hotfix release for this asap.
jamyjet@reddit
Did you crash in any games out if interest? Had it in games at high framerates and noticed weird flickering when changing refresh rates too.
Kemaro@reddit
No I was never able to get any of the games I test to crash. I tested CP2077 extensively since that was a common one people were seeing but I couldn't reproduce.
justinianoo@reddit
Helldivers 2 black screens for me whenever I land on an Illuminate planet. More often than not crashing instantly as I land on the planet, sometimes I'm able to play a bit then crashes later on. You could try HD2.
Lirka_@reddit
Have you fixed this yet? I've got the same issue on HD2. Doesn't matter which faction, but for me my screen just goes black for a couple of seconds and then returns to normal. It can do this dozens of times in a row, or just once or twice. And sometimes only after 20 mins. I'm at a loss.
justinianoo@reddit
The beta driver seems to have fixed it for me. 572.41 was able to play a few hours yesterday
Lirka_@reddit
Oh nice! Where did you get that driver?
justinianoo@reddit
Somewhere in this thread
Lirka_@reddit
Ah yeah found it. It seems the current driver is 572.42 though. So I’m not sure if it would help anymore
justinianoo@reddit
RTX 5090 - Black screen issues : r/buildapc it was this one, that was does not have the same fixes
Lirka_@reddit
Interesting. It seems they recommend undervolting the gpu as well. No idea how to do that, hmm
Secure_Mud_566@reddit
Same here, though not sure if it's faction specific. Crashes only AFTER landing not in ship. Which reciprocates for most the games I am crashing in. Only after the loading screen, I crash.
Lirka_@reddit
Is it still happening for you? I have the same issue, but the screen just goes black for a few seconds and shows the hdmi1 signal name and then returns to the game. Sometimes does this dozens of times in a row, sometimes once or twice. It’s honestly infuriating, and I have no idea how to fix it. The new driver did nothing for me.
Secure_Mud_566@reddit
I am on the .42 driver and it did nothing for me. I did fix it though. My card's stock core clock curve on its gaming mode is unstable like around 2600mhz so it took me all week to figure it out...
I already did a -100mhz test before and still crashes but last night I did -500 cause I got fed up and every single game I had issues is perfect now. So I set up an undervolt at like .925 for 2750mhz and it seems stable after an hour of testing.
I just don't understand how this issue goes away with 4k95hz
Lirka_@reddit
That’s good to hear! Would you mind telling me how that works? I’m new to pc building and that is something I have no idea how to do.
jamyjet@reddit
You only game at 120hz so that could be why. I only ever get crashes when pushing consistently over 200 fps in games.
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah it seems more to do with refresh rate than fps, because I was testing unlocked fps with vsync off to get as high fps as possible in the games I tested. Very weird bug for sure.
jamyjet@reddit
Definitely a video driver issue with bandwidth it seems. Glad it seems to be fixed. Refreshing my email every ten minutes hoping they send me the beta driver now
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I have the beta drivers and for me, nothing changed. Black screens instantly in Speed way. This definitely has something to do with other hardware, wether it's the motherboard or monitors, something like that.
jamyjet@reddit
Check the latest patch for 3d mark
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Oh shit........ Am I going to have to unpack the GPU... And try again... Jesus
jamyjet@reddit
Definitely worth a shot, especially if 3d mark was the only programme you had issues on
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
When did this patch come out?
jamyjet@reddit
This morning seemingly, in the last 3 hours
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately I already had the patch, and it's the same issue. Though, this might mean there's an issue with 3dmark and some motherboards, besides the one's that got patched.
I'm going to try a bit of Elden Ring and Wukong benchmark
jamyjet@reddit
Would definitely see if it's only 3d mark giving you issues because it it is and they've had to patch the benchmark to support new hardware it's very likely that's the issue.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Just tested Elden Ring. Same thing. Black screen after 2 minutes.
Packing the GPU again! xD
jamyjet@reddit
Oh no, that's rough. You definitely did a clean install of the beta driver from support? Sucks if it didn't fix it for you.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I pretty much tried everything. I bet, the same way 3DMark is patching x670-e motherboards, I think some motherboards have some issues with the new RTX 5000s. Let's just hope the store accepts this back.
jamyjet@reddit
I would hope so if its a hardware issue. Although if they cant replicate the issue then that could be a problem, worth explaining to the support agent that's what you currently suspect too. Good luck!
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Hmm, wondering if I already had the update, because I have 3dMark on Steam. Will check
jamyjet@reddit
Speedway runs fine for me on the beta driver 🤔
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Are you getting blackscreens in games or others bench tools ?
jamyjet@reddit
Not had a single black screen or game crash since I got the drivers, not done crazy amounts of testing. 3 games in overwatch at high fps. No crashes. 2 games of hunt showdown high fps, no crashes. 1 game of marvel rivals at high fps, no crashes either. 2 speedway tests to crashes and timespy extreme doesn't crash or black screen anymore. Seems like it's more or less fixed.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Sounds good i'll test those games tonight since i have them, i do use gsync+vsync in the panel to cap ( i hate using more of my hz it's a waste imho)
I did 2H of cyberpunk while changing settings everywhere, alt tab a lot etc without issues so it's def an improvement on my end.
jamyjet@reddit
I like the 1% lows to be above my monitors refresh rate if I can which is why I tend to play with my fps uncapped. But you tend to get slightly better latency if you use an fps limit just under your monitors refresh rate.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, very strange indeed.
Crayten@reddit
Also got the Driver from Nvidia and was still able to reproduce the black screen in ZZZ running at ~300fps on my 240HZ Screen.
Cyberpunk 2077 seemed more stable in the short test I ran but we will see how this turns out.
jamyjet@reddit
Is this new driver just an updated version of this one? https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5624 I can see it now says updated yesterday at the top.
UnL1k3@reddit
Nope, this is not. This has been there for days and was put out as a fix for valorant crashing.
Kemaro@reddit
New, 572.41
ramsito82@reddit
hz?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yep got it too, i'll test and report in a few hours.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Ok so the BETA Hotfix seems to have fixed my game crashes !
I'm 1h deep into cyberpunk 4k 144hz with my usual settings and everything seems fine, i did open AB and the game crashed (just the game with error window) upon returning to it , can be coincidence tho.
The really weird part is that my game feels way way more smooth with FrameGen off (65-75 fps AVG) than FrameGen X2/3 on (150 fps AVG) , the FrameGen on feels like how off should, anyone with a similar experience ?
Himuo@reddit
Great news !
Hopefully we get the final fix before this weekend (any idea how to get it when its available ?)
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I’m glad that its not hardware related. So many people got the gaming trio and posted here made me worry so much
jamyjet@reddit
Frame gen x3 with 150 fps means your native fps is likely only around 60fps which means pretty high latency, so that's why it probably feels worse. Frame gen works better with a stable base fps to begin with. With the new transformer model you should find that balanced and performance modes look almost as good as native anyway and give less input latency too.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yes i know the weird thing is that before (when it crashed in 5mins lol) it felt better, FrameGen off doesn't feel like 70 fps at all it feels like 120 here
jamyjet@reddit
Worth noting you have to restart the game in Cyberpunk to apply frame gen, perhaps it just hasn't applied correctly
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Done it yeah, so i don't know might be the beta driver or just the game being weird.
ramsito82@reddit
Hopefully soon, I've been using 5090 suprim liquid for a week without being able to use it.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Please for the love of god 🙏
Castaway_addict@reddit
I'm excited to see this new hotfix. I learned by increasing the monitors refresh rate while in game can be more stable up until 200hz, but while loading up the game with anything higher than 60hz will instantly crash.
Thesearchoftheshite@reddit
This actually does the same thing on my 4070 to super lol. Drivers for sure.
jamyjet@reddit
They said it's specifically for the black screen issues too.
Crayten@reddit
Was it specifically for the blackscren problem that was only fixable with setting the monitor to 60hz?
jamyjet@reddit
He said its for the black screen issue in my screenshot above, see my message to him.
Crayten@reddit
Ah shit.
Missed the AM and PM. My german brain is wired to work with 24h format only haha
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Did they just say that to get rid of you? Or were they serious? :D
jamyjet@reddit
They are serious seemingly, it was someone from their engineer team on my case via email
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Hadn't noticed the screenshot. It does seem like they are serious about it coming out quickly. Let's hope it's going to be out this week.
jamyjet@reddit
He said he doesn't know for sure but would be surprised if it took a full week from now, so hopefully later this week I'd say.
Crayten@reddit
Heureka. Crossing fingers it will fix our problem.
It's so frustating no being able to properly use my 3000€ Trio brick and setting an OLED monitor to 60HZ just sucks.
AccomplishedLoan6252@reddit
Having the same issues here with my MSI 5090 Gaming Trio. I believe this is a big driver issue.
TheTurboFD@reddit
Gaming Trio here too, I'm contemplating if RMA is worth it or not.
UnL1k3@reddit
Made a video about the black screening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvoEu9Z4V0Q&t=44s
Same issue occurs with the new 572.42 driver.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
You better give 572.41 BETA driver a shot. It seems to have fixed my issue.
UnL1k3@reddit
Sadly I do not have access to said driver.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
You can browse through the thread, sort it by “new,” and scroll down to find what you’re looking for
UnL1k3@reddit
Thanks!
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Let me know if that fixed your issue
maxmw@reddit
Yeah let us know
UnL1k3@reddit
Sadly no, it hasn't. Crysis 3 does the exact same thing. I'm going to RMA the card first thing tomorrow. Will probably get a 4080 super as they're readily in stock where I live.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You sure you are on .41 ?
You need to either DDU or CLEAN install within the NVIDIA installer.
justinianoo@reddit
Seems to have fixed it for me. Helldivers 2 used to crash on loading into match instantly.
UnL1k3@reddit
If you have access to Crysis 3 Remastered, could you test it out? Thanks.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I can run CS2 but don't have Crysis
UnL1k3@reddit
If you could just run around in a public deathmatch lobby and see if it black screens that would be appreciated 🙏🏾 Thanks.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Could you check your clock speeds ? Are they the same or got lowered ?
UnL1k3@reddit
Clocks are fine even before games black screen. I've found that even slight overclocks reduce my black screens noticeably to the point where cyberpunk is only stable with a slight overclock. The quiet bios is unusable.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Try nvidia and msi support, open a ticket. Maybe they can give you a new beta or something idk. I’m glad I’m off this beta testing. Going to enjoy my ps5 pro in the meantime
UnL1k3@reddit
I'm on a gigabyte card. I've contacted both gigabyte and Nvidia and that's still ongoing. The store I bought it from is ready to ship a replacement card but I don't think it's the hardware that's the issue so I'm not too sure what to do. And f yeah! I'm back to playing on my vita which I'm pretty happy with :))
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Being a beta tester put too much stress in me. Investing in a 3000€-4000€ card and thinking that it is faulty kept me awake at night. Enjoy your stress-free experience with consoles
UnL1k3@reddit
Yeah this is outrageous. The fact that they said they don't know why it's happening when it's so widespread tells you a ton. Enjoy gaming bro, hope it's fixed soon 👍🏾
UnL1k3@reddit
Will do once I'm back from work.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I've played CS2 everything on Ultra settings.
Got 225 Fps stable mostly.
No crashes.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
That's nice, do test a lot of games tho, to be sure
UnL1k3@reddit
Yeah, on the beta driver I had no issues with cyberpunk for hours and starfield for a few minutes. Crysis 3 and CS2 are still unplayable.
UnL1k3@reddit
I DDU'd it and clean installed. I'm now reinstalling windows from scratch and trying the driver. Hope that fixes it.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
From what I understand, the beta driver just down-clocks your GPU and memory speeds. Maybe try lowering them.
UnL1k3@reddit
Alright, will give this a shot.
UnL1k3@reddit
It has not, no. 😞
link_chi@reddit
Got a chance to try with the .41 beta driver, and I also still had issues with screen flickering on Cyberpunk. Did DDU/clean install of the driver but still no luck.
UnL1k3@reddit
I did a whole new install of windows and it didn't work. Sigh.
Abizigial@reddit
The beta driver fixes the black screen issue in some games for me but not others.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
What games are you having problems with ?
Abizigial@reddit
Age of Wonders 4 has issues, black screen straight after launching and getting into the main menu.
Cyberpunk and Marvel Rivals used to black screen as well, but now they work for me.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Maybe try lowering your clock speeds. The beta driver seems to just down clocks everything
Abizigial@reddit
The driver lowers your clock speed, really? That's pretty disappointing.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
It lowered my GPU clock by 100 and memory clock by 30.
Substantial_Rub_285@reddit
add some GPU clock seems ok , but memory clock is forbidden area
Kemaro@reddit
The Nvidia rep told me to do custom > clean install when installing 572.41. That is important missing context that people are missing. After the install is done, reboot the PC even if it doesn't ask you to. Try that and report back.
UnL1k3@reddit
Yup did that. I even clean installed windows and tried, no luck.
Substantial_Rub_285@reddit
can't apply any display memory oc after you install 572.41 driver (black-grey screen) but core oc is ok. this beta driver works for my 5090 liquid suprim.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I think the 572.42 does not contain the black screen fixes from the 572.41. At least, according to another user here in this thread.
Crayten@reddit
Because the beta didn't fix it which was also the feedback I gave to Nvidia when I received the Driver from them for testing.
Since it wasn't working as intended it was probably removed and went back to the drawing board since using a not properly working fix could end up creating problems.
Kemaro@reddit
The beta definitely fixed it for some of us. .16 and .42 crash. .16 its every time i run speed way or time spy, .42 is randomly but happens after a few runs. .41 I can run speed way and time spy for full 20 run stress tests no issues at all.
Crayten@reddit
It’s a band-aid fix at best.
I have an extremely taxing stress test in Zenless Zone Zero with unlocked FPS (the game runs at around 300 FPS and pushes the GPU to a constant 575W usage), which causes a black screen crash within 10 to 15 seconds.
I was still able to reproduce this issue with the beta driver 572.41, so it’s definitely not fixed.
Kemaro@reddit
I was curious, so I downloaded ZZZ and cranked the settings with unlocked fps, 1.2 render scale, etc to the point where it was pulling 575 watts with spikers to 585-590 and I ran through the intro/prologue training mission thing up to the point where the first story quest starts, \~20 minutes or so of game play. Couldn't reproduce a crash on 572.42. This is definitely a strange bug and like Nvidia said could be multiple bugs with similar symptoms. Thanks for giving me a reason to check out ZZZ though, it's actually a cool game and I will probably keep playing it.
Crayten@reddit
It's a certain mission I have to run to reproduce the crash.
Notorious Hunt - Newborn Dead End Butcher which is part of item farming for character skills.
Kemaro@reddit
Like I said, it was fixed for some of us. The beta driver definitely did something.
Crayten@reddit
Even Nvidia confirmed tho it's not fixed.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/user/15//557200//?comment=3500287
Kemaro@reddit
Yep hopefully they can fully fix it soon
Kemaro@reddit
Bad news, I can confirm 572.42 does NOT have the fix. Strangely, I was about to complete about 4 runs during a 20 run Speed Way stress test, but the 5th one crashed the same way 572.16 did. I have reached back out to my contact on the Nvidia driver team with this info, waiting to hear back.
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah damn, this is so frustrating. Thanks for the update. Am I the only one with a Gigabyte card here?
Kemaro@reddit
Seems like msi trio is most affected card but seems any card could be affected to varying degrees
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I'm seeing a pattern, where for the RTX 5090 it's mostly Gaming Trios, while for the 5080 it seems like the brand with most issues is Gigabyte.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
The beta driver seems to have fixed the issue 572.41
Crayten@reddit
No it didn't.
My sure fire stress test was able to reproduce the black screen with the beta driver I got from the RD Team.
TheTurboFD@reddit
Where did you find 572.41? Only ones I know of are 572.16, 572.24 and 572.42
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Sort the thread to “new”, scroll down until you find the clue
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
For some it did, for others it didn't. You have an RTX 5090 ou 5080?
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC Went through Time Spy Extreme 4K without any issues. Strange thing is, my gpu ran at a constant 100mhz lower frequency on the test
Fired up Cyberpunk without any limitations now to check.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
There is a bit of trios 5080 in it too, but yeah this pattern seems right.
I would like to know what GPUs MSI used in their investigation to reproduce the issues tho.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I have seen zero Suprims...
Kemaro@reddit
My theory remains that it is a display controller bug based on the symptoms. Likely all trios are using the same display out controller and the gigabyte 5089 affected probably is as well.
link_chi@reddit
I'm having the exact same problem with my 5080 Gigabyte Aero too when I try to play Cyberpunk. I tested on all three public release drivers (.16, .24, .42). I submitted feedback about the driver and had hoped they would send the .41 beta for me to test when I read about it but I never received anything in my e-mail.
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah so we are on the same card. What are your other specs if you don't mind me asking. I'm really itching to try the beta driver as well xD
link_chi@reddit
This is my current setup:
I had a 3070 in this same setup and no issues with flickering on any of my games that I have problems with now, but I hadn't installed the game ready drivers at the time (i.e. .16).
UnL1k3@reddit
Yeah it worked fine on my 3080 as well. It has to be the 5080. We have a similar setup.
justinianoo@reddit
I also have a similar setup with the Gigabyte Aero 5080 and the same issues as well.
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah, more of us poor souls. At least there is some reassurance that it isn't an isolated issue.
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah okay, this is so disappointing.
GluhenAzalea@reddit
So this is safe to say its not just an msi gaming trio issue?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
90% of the RTX 5090s with issues, are Gaming Trio, but we have to take into consideration that it was the model with most stock worldwide.
And since other brands and other GPUs are also having similar issues (RTX 4000s), it makes sense to assume that it's all just a driver issue and not hardware issue.
Necessary-Paint6810@reddit
I have 5090 Gaming Trio and works without any issues and problems
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
What's fucking with my smol brain is ... Why it's so random to whom is getting hit by the issues, yet the issues and solutions we found are all pretty much the same.
jamyjet@reddit
I hope we get a proper statement soon. At this point they must have an idea of what is causing it at least
trustonaby@reddit
i dont tthink so because i have a problems in some games and benchmarks but in others dont, ex i have problems with timespy extreme but dont have any problem on portroyal
Zirkoz@reddit
Same for me, we just have to wait now ..
ramsito82@reddit
False alarm, black screens continue if I go over 60 Hz in Speedway, Time Spy Extreme
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Try beta driver
ramsito82@reddit
I tried it yesterday with .41 and it's still the same, low performance and I can't use more than one monitor at 60hz
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
What’s your gpu ?
ramsito82@reddit
msi 5090 suprim liquid
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Finally we see a Suprim. Guess these issues do affect almost all AIBs.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Someone called, wanted to buy my rtx 5090. Will be selling it today hopefully. Will try to get asus astral
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, it would be interesting to see if the ASUS cards don't have these issues. At least I haven't seen anyone with an ASUS card.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I sold it, and I feel like I’ve lost weight.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
You and I the same. I'll gladly purchase another one if the black screen issues get resolved eventually, or even before that, if I can get my hands on an ASUS one.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I went to the largest tech store in area and got my name written down for the asus astral oc. They had taken pre orders and will be shipping them on the 28th. Unfortunately I missed out on the first batch but if someone decides not buy, I will take their spot. Hope for the best.
ramsito82@reddit
avowed works with 3 displays connected without black screen, 1 hdmi 4k 240, 2 dp 1440p 240 and 170, depends on the game or app.
drivers 572.42
ramsito82@reddit
cyberpunk 2 monitors or more, black screen after a few seconds.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Just packed my rtx 5090. Will try to sell it today
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, the same goes for 3DMark Steel Nomad benchmark, as it works for everyone at multi monitor + maximum resolution/refresh rate without any issues.
AEUS_@reddit
nice Nvidia,572.42 Fix nothing,Still black screen,I pay 3000USD for the card and it even can't properly run,Nvidia nice.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
What card do you have ? And try it with the 572.41 beta driver it seems fix it for me. Beta driver runs 100mhz slower clock speed on the gpu
AEUS_@reddit
yea it's palit 5090 I think, I haven't try .41Beta yet, But i think it's definitely scam that we need underclock the performance after we get the card, I mean we pay for the original performance right..and now we don't get it.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
It’s interesting that only Gigabyte, MSI and Palit owners complain about black screens/crashes. Never heard anything about Asus cards.
AEUS_@reddit
sure they pay 1000 More
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Idk if they are the only one using quality components that won’t crash.
AEUS_@reddit
if that so why their 40 series still run well.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Other AIB 40 series run well too.
Slider_Override@reddit
572.41 (Beta) did also not solve the issue for me,
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Also what GPU do you use ?
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
What games/benchmarks do you have issues still ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The 572.42, supposedly, does not contain the black screen fixes from the 572.41 BETA version, so you can try and search for that version. For some users, it helped, for others not so much.
AEUS_@reddit
Thanks pal I will have a try
trustonaby@reddit
Someone already try reach MSi about this problem?
Crayten@reddit
Yes.
Best Regards Have a nice day.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Any updates on MSI Support ?
UnL1k3@reddit
Damn, thanks for the update. We're all in this together no matter the AIB lol
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I hope they indeed reported it to NVIDIA with details, ty dude.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
This is great news, thanks.
Noftark@reddit
I have a 5090 msi gaming trio too, version 572.41 doesn't work for me.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Interesting. Which apps are you having problems with?
Noftark@reddit
Time spy, fire strike, ghost of tsushima and spiderman. (all games
)
Substantial_Rub_285@reddit
did you apply any oc settings in afterburner ?
Noftark@reddit
No
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Try DDU install. It worked for me
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Does the hotfix driver fix crashing issues ? Also for the ones contacing with nvidia, any news from them ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
It did not for me. The only thing that helped, with new Beta drivers, was to lower the Power Limit to 75%.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
So limiting fps to 60-90 did not help you? I had issues only with cyberpunk but setting max fps did solve the issue
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
It did, but seeing a lot of users notice improvements, with the latest Beta driver, and me not being able to run Speed Way for more than 3 seconds, I want to make sure I don't end up with a paper weight that eventually needs to be RMAd. And also, who's to say that the store won't test the GPU on a different system and then say that it works just fine and they won't accept the return.
I prefer to try and deal with that now, then pray and hope that a driver might end up fixing the issues. I feel like they might end up fixing the issues for some, but not all users.
Slider_Override@reddit
Same for me new Driver bring a bit more stable on some games, but the Blackscreen issue is still present :-( hoping for the next beta driver.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Glad to know I'm not the only one where the issues remain the same.
Kemaro@reddit
Did the Nvidia contact you spoke with mention giving them dump files to examine? My contact gave me instructions but since the driver fixed all my problems I was not able to create a dump file.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
They stopped responding two days ago, when they escalated to 2nd level support or something.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
It’s also interesting that most of the posts here complaining about black screen/crashes come from msi gt oc users including myself. Either msi sold bunch of these compared to other brands or msi used some unique ports/connectors etc. that fail when under load. I hope there’s no hardware thing that failed but it’s unlikely that msi didn’t care about QC and sold faulty cards to everyone. Hope for the best
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I remember seeing one user saying he had these issues, and then he tried connecting the GPU in an older computer and it worked just fine. That should tell us that the card is ok, in theory.
At the same time, it is indeed weird that, although the Gaming Trio was definitely the most purchased model, I just can't understand why 95% of the users, with these issues, have an RTX 5090 Gaming trio (only talking about 5090s).
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
The only card I could find in my country was the gaming trio OC. It was also more expensive than the Asus TUF OC.
I wish I had waited for the Asus Astral it seems no one has reported any issues with it.
Also, it seems like more people are having black screens or crashes when running GPU-heavy benchmarks or games. But in my case, it’s just Cyberpunk, which is also weird.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
You only have black screen/crashes in Cyberpunk? No other game?
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I just ran Time Spy Extreme, and it crashed! It was the first time I’ve had a crash with Time Spy. The last time I ran it was on Windows 11 24h3, and now I’m on 24h4. Maybe that’s the cause.
I’ll try limiting my FPS now since I also switched monitors. I was using a 165Hz IPS monitor, but now I have a 240Hz OLED monitor.
I never had any crashes with the IPS monitor, which is pretty interesting.
Crayten@reddit
The more bandwidth you use the higher the chance it will crash. If you limit your Monitor to a 4K60HZ refresh rate all problems will vanish even tho the card was drawing its intended 575W and running at ultra high fps.
There is some bandwidth issues with the driver.
MSI support also mentionted that they were able to reproduce the blackscreen error in their RD department with MSI cards, other AIB cards and the FE on these setups.
GluhenAzalea@reddit
How accurate is this claim? But thanks Im also an msi 5090 gt owner and this has given me some hope
Crayten@reddit
Very accurate.
We talked in the german hardwareluxx forums about it and everyone with a 4k high refresh monitor was able to reproduce the 60hz "fix.
And here the message I got from MSI.
Best Regards Have a nice day.
GluhenAzalea@reddit
Thanks so much! That really gives me much hope. Looking forward to the fix coz I really don't want to return my msi 5090 it's such a hassle
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Wow did they ? That's a huge one if so
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Just finished time spy extreme on 1440p resolution with uncapped fps. No problems at all.
If that’s true what MSI is saying, then there’s no hardware issues at all and it’ll be pointless to try returning the card.
I will be installing the new driver now, see if it’s fixed or not
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That's definitely interesting
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Rolled back to Windows Update 23h3. Time Spy Extreme didn’t crash until the end of the test and this time it didn’t just crash, the screen went gray but I could still see my mouse and managed to restart my pc.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Half of the times I get a grey screen on the secondary monitor. The other half is just a black screen. 50% of the times it usually recovers
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I contacted the website where I bought the gpu. Their website states that every component must be tested before issuing refunds. Idk
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Well, if the problem is black screen, let them test it. They'll test it in another PC and it might just work lol
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
No other game than Cyberpunk. Actually, to be fair, I have only played PoE2 and Cyberpunk. But I have run multiple benchmark runs ( Time Spy, etc.) without any problems.
Kemaro@reddit
I never talked to support personally. A member of their driver team contacted me via email after i submitted feedback via the form
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
I haven't seen any kind of news, even less any good news about a driver update coming soon.
What about you guys ?
I am about to send back my 5090 Gaming Trio before it is too late.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So, after testing the new Beta driver, I'm probably going to try and return the GPU to the store. I still have all the same issues, even though a lot of users seem to have way fewer black screens now.
With new Beta driver, I get black screens all the same.
Dr_Amnezio@reddit
My GPU is going back to MSI.
With the refund, I will try to take an other 5090 from a band who does not seem to have issues, like ASUS.
I hope the restocks will be soon
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Already returned my GPU back to the store. No more MSI for me.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Things to try if you havent :
Following NVIDIA's mail infos
Win11 24H2 (NVIDIA told me they are testing with this version)
Reset the NVIDIA App again , make sure to change refresh rate to a lower amount in the App then up it to your native one (within the App)
Disable/Uninstall NVIDIA HD Audio
Launch a game where you had crashes before Speed Way
Do not use any monitoring softwares
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Thanks, I'll try all that. If nothing works, I'll probably try to return the GPU...
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
To be honest i don't know, i did this and it seems to work ?
They need data so every tests is "worth it" i guess.
I'm sure i can still crash randomly in others games or benchmark tools i need to try more.
If it's indeed a problem related to how MSI's Gaming Trio interact with outputs, we should also report all the details to MSI for more confirmation.
To me it's clearly software, but is it software badly interacting with others softwares or hardware ? Idk
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
It definitely needs to also be related to other hardware, otherwise everyone would have the same issues, and we wouldn't have cases where people do not have these issues.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
No news besides melting cables.
biingobongo@reddit
Not again… surely not!
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I was told to hold off on RMA by Nvidia. Everything points to a driver issue as opposed to hardware.
jamyjet@reddit
I'm also getting pretty worried, this long and not even a proper statement is very worrying.
ramsito82@reddit
I have tried the 572.41 drivers and practically everything remains the same, this is going to end in a massive RMA.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
The beta driver seems to have fixed my issue in 3DMark. But the strange thing is that my 5090 ran 100mhz lower frequency throughout the test.
Himuo@reddit
Any idea of the performance impact that's having on your scores ? 5% ? 10% ? I mean, if that's their only workaround I'm not gonna accept it...
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
So interestingly I scored 13.810 as opposed to my old run 14.406 - %4.3 difference.
Average gpu clock speed: Now: 2.461 Was: 2.572
Average memory clock speed: Now: 1.722 Was: 1.750 (which is the standard for this gpu)
Idk if it can be related but I was on Win11 24h2 Now I downgraded to 23h3
Himuo@reddit
Thank you for your feedback!
Looks like its a cheap trick to contain the problem. So what's the point to pay more for a OC card if the OC part is deactivated...
Meh
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Reverted back to the current driver and instantly gained 150mhz of gpu speed. This can’t be a beta driver for what it does
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I mean I can compare with my old Steel Nomad run. Will let you know in a minute
I’m now getting 120fps most of the time in Cyberpunk with DLSS Q and FG
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yep same performance, 120/130 with FG, DLSS set to Balanced get me a pretty sick boost with legit zero loss in visual quality. Really impressed.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
The beta driver lets us run without any problems but we sacrifice around 5% gpu performance. The beta driver seems to run lower clock speeds both in memory and gpu clocks
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
This is weird tho cause i had my crashes at stock and at 75% PL.
Kemaro@reddit
Have you tried 572.42 yet? Just released.
https://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windows/572.42/572.42-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe
ramsito82@reddit
They are absolutely useless
Kemaro@reddit
That sucks man, I am sorry. Might be time to consider returning your GPU
Abizigial@reddit
Also tried the new drivers, same issues for me as well.
simon7920@reddit
Are you sure you tried properly?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yup, people are running out of time to return them to the stores.
Himuo@reddit
Indeed, just waiting till 21 february (last day to be able to return the product to the store), after that I'm taking my money back and screw you nvidia/MSI, I'm not paying that much for such a mess.
ramsito82@reddit
I am clear that MSI becomes my last option for graphics from today onwards.
maxmw@reddit
I managed to get hold of the beta driver (572.41_BETA) it does look like it fixes the black screening issue I was experiencing (mainly in UE games) with my 5080 GAMING OC, the new offical driver 572.42 just released brings back the crashing, so whatever they did in the beta that fixes my black screening doesn't seem to be included in the offical release.
Kemaro@reddit
I noticed my 3dmark scores were about 500-600 points lower with the beta driver than with 572.42 so I am wondering the same thing. Seems like they are limiting performance somehow in the beta driver.
Himuo@reddit
Is there any way for you to share the .41 Beta version ?
So we could also test on our side
UnL1k3@reddit
+1
maxmw@reddit
Unfortunately I'm told I am not allowed to share it, don't really understand why. Try email Nvdia support.
UnL1k3@reddit
Ah okay, no issue. I have filled up their google form, will send an email to their support now. Thanks.
maxmw@reddit
Theres a really intresting thread here you should go read, you might find something interesting there: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/nvidia-rtx-50-series-technical-general-discussion.18985861/page-674
UnL1k3@reddit
Thank you.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Hmm worth a shot I guess
Kemaro@reddit
Check your DMs
UnL1k3@reddit
Yeah the 572.42 is still black screening for me. Could you somehow send me the beta driver? Thanks.
First_Motor_403@reddit
Hello,
I've been following this for a while and just wondered has anyone had the issue with Windows 11 crashing/freezing within like 10-30 seconds of booting?
I've just tried the new driver and still the same issue. I've just built this PC with an msi rtx5090 gaming trio oc and am unable to use it. The moment I install the driver the crashing begins but works perfectly fine using the Microsoft basic display adapter.
Just wondered if anyone is it the same boat as me.
Himuo@reddit
I have the same problem with my RTX 5090 Msi gaming trio oc too
Using a 4K 120 Hz
The problem first appeared in FF7 Rebirth ; couldnt play more than 10 min without black screen crash
I tried Cyberpunk and I had no problem BUT I first had a black screen crash when launching the game, right before the title screen
Then I tried a less demading game (Solar Ash) and could play for an hour without problem
Seems very random...
I've got no time for this shit and to play 60 hz or wathever solution that doesnt work. I just too off the card and I'm using my old one again (4090) without any problem (same drivers).
Waiting for a fix soon and if not I'm gonna return the card.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I just got a BETA Hotfix sent by NVIDIA in my mail, i'll report if it's working in a few hours
jamyjet@reddit
I've been refreshing my emails constantly waiting for the beta hotfix, hope it fixes your issues
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'll try when i'm off work and house duty but i remains skeptical tbh.
jamyjet@reddit
Someone else got beta access and said it fixed the black screen issues and crashing they had so fingers crossed
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yeah but they havent had the games crashes which i had, so we will see.
LexTalyones@reddit
Can you share the beta drivers? Or just PM me a link?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I've got the beta fix and can confirm it has fixed the crashes in Speed Way for me but not Time Spy Extreme.
Abizigial@reddit
How can we get access to the beta drivers?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Hotfix is coming soon , as said by NVIDIA themselves.
New drivers around the 20 (after the hotfix).
I can't understand why it's happening a lot more on pur gaming Trio OC tho, maybe it's really that much more available than all of the others AIB ?
Kemaro@reddit
Probably just something unique in the gaming trio hardware that causes a bug in the driver that other cards aren't susceptible to. If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say the gaming trio is using a unique display controller for the display outs or a different firmware on the display controller. It seems to be bandwidth related, as in the bandwidth of the data being sent over the display connector. Nothing to worry about though, it is not a hardware issue and your card is perfectly fine as far as the hardware goes.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yeah i was thinking about that and it make senses actually.
ramsito82@reddit
At the speed they're going, this looks really bad, it looks more and more like hardware, with how big Nvidia is and they haven't fixed anything yet.
Should we return the graphics card to the store? With the amount of hours we spent to buy it
This is crap
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I'm going to try and lower the power limit, to see if anything changes. If not, I'll probably try and return it today to the store.
I'm tired of being a beta tester, and the new Beta drivers don't help at all.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
If you return it, youre going to have trouble finding a new one
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Oh, I'm totally aware of that, but it's not a problem, as I'm done doing Beta testing for a 3000€ GPU. Once all these issues get fixed, and it's in stock again (3-4 months maybe), I might purchase it again.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I’m waiting for the new driver as I wouldn’t be able to return it since I opened the packaging.
Noftark@reddit
Hello, would it be possible to have the beta driver? I have a msi gaming trio also with black screens.
Sorry, I don't speak English. Thanks for your help.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Im fearing the same thing ive also got 5090 gt oc
ramsito82@reddit
Any news? Those of you who have the beta driver, is everything working now?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Played 2h of cyberpunk at 4k 144hz without any blackscreen.
I was getting blackscreens with full reboots in 5mins before the BETA Drivers, so it's working it seems.
Himuo@reddit
Do you also have the msi gaming trio model, like zpinto who still has the issue with it ?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yes, i'm pretty sure i can still crash in other games/apps since it seems others can.
But it's def drivers Issues if my issue with cyberpunk is fixed.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Tried the new beta drivers, and it's all still the same for me. Black screens and crashes instantly on Speed Way. Didn't even bother to test anything else.
Afraid_Complaint_437@reddit
Getting black screen for very short periods usually on initial boot up. Msi GT 5090, ASU’s x870e, 9800x3d, 64gb ram on 4k 240htz
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I was having a similar problem with my RTX 5090 Msi gaming trio oc when playing cyberpunk my screen would go gray with purple lines. Limited my screen refresh rate to 60, limited cyberpunk’s max fps to 60 via nvidia control center. Seems to be all good for now.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yep the bandaid fix is to set your refresh rate low enough.
Check the thread a hotfix regarding the issues is coming soon.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Which thread are you refering to? Btw you don’t have to limit your monitor’s refresh rate. Just limit the game youre having problem with to 60 fps that worked for me. Had a little heart attack when I first saw my screen go gray too.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
In my case limit the game wont work, at least not in cyberpunk (4k144hz gsync) , and this very thread, sort by new you'll find it below your comment.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
Mine didn’t work after I set the limit in game. But setting 60 fps limit on nvidia control center might have solved the issue for me now.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Update for the ones still lurking here :
Played the MH Wilds beta all day (All maxed with DLSS 3.5 set at Quality , 4K 144HZ) without any problems (Gaming OC).
Played 10min of Ninja Gaiden 2 Black (All maxed with DLSS set at Quality) and you guessed it.... black screen with audio for 15sec then full reboot.
Then i tried to launch the game a second time, but without DLSS i picked TSR for testing purpose and... no crash in 30 minutes !
I think EVERYTHING is fucked in this driver but some DLSS version may add to the problems.
IceCaffeLatte@reddit
I have the same gpu. I only get crashes in cyberpunk and limiting my fps to 60 seems to have solved it
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
ROG b650EE , up to date running a 9800X3D
Slider_Override@reddit
Unlucky 572.41 did not solve the issue for me :-( I still get Blackscreens
joverclock@reddit
Disable gsync - reboot. 🥇
Kemaro@reddit
Just wanted to share my experience with this issue. I am also using a gaming trio OC 5090. My setup is just an LG C2 42" connected via HDMI to gpu. No other panels. At 120hz, the speed way and time spy extreme tests will lock up PC with black screen within a second or sometimes 3 seconds of starting the test. PC is unresponsive and will eventually reboot itself if I don't hard reboot it myself. I have tried changing PCIe speed to 4.0 from 5.0, disabling PBO, disabling HDR, and disabling ALLM on the TV. Only thing that works is setting TV to 60hz and then I can run Speed Way for a complete 20 run stress test without a problem. I have tried dozens of games and have had no issues with any of them, this issue seems isolated just to 3dmark as far as I can tell.
biingobongo@reddit
MSI vanguard 5080, HDMI 165hz can run all 3d mark tests with zero crashes. On windows 24h2 and latest Nvidia driver. Samsung g7 Neo 4k monitor. Black screen but can still hear game audio on delta force then pc reboots after 30 seconds. Marvel rivals is fine no black screen. Samsung monitors when black screening some times shows as a grey screen with blue vertical lines for anyone reading this with a Samsung monitor.
sYnergon@reddit
RTX 5090 FE, 9800x3D 6200 @ 5,4, x670e, Pcie5, C65 Oled 120HZ HDMi, since i disabled voltage control in AB its working witout issues
jamyjet@reddit
I only seem to have black screens or crashes in games at 200 fps or more so that could be why games are okay for you
Kemaro@reddit
Can you give me example of games and I will test if I have access to them
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Hey again, i will share again my few results :
MH Wilds beta, all maxed out DLSS 3.5 Quality at 4K144hz getting around 90-110fps no crash at all for 5 hours straight of gameplay.
Cyberpunk, all maxed out with DLSS4 Quality and MFG X3 getting around 160-180fps will blackscreen into full reboot in a matter of minutes.
Settings my refresh rate at 75hz will make it work without any crash.
MSI 5090 Gaming Trio OC with a LG C4.
Kemaro@reddit
I’ve been playing cp2077 with your exact settings for about 20 minutes so far and no crash. I’ll leave it running while I do some other stuff and see if it eventually crashes.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
For your interest my crash happened right after tweakin a settings (i think it was bloom or something) might be something idk
Kemaro@reddit
Transformer or CNN model for DLSS?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Transformer yes
Kemaro@reddit
Ok that’s what I’m using as well. I’ll see if I can do anything to make it crash. So far rock solid after almost 30 minutes running around dog town.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Aaaaaa it's driving me insane lol , are you using VRR/G Sync and Instant Response ?
Kemaro@reddit
Gsync yes, ALLM is off at the moment since I turned it off to troubleshoot
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'll try again soon with ALLM off , i was also using HDR PQ and Reflex (on + boost but for some reason it wasnt working so just "On")
Kemaro@reddit
I messed with a bunch of settings, tried x2 and x4 frame gen, nothing i could do to make it crash. Played about 45 minutes.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
This is really weird, ty for testing i'll try in a few hours without ALLM and see how it goes from there.
Are you on PciE 5 by the way ?
Kemaro@reddit
Yes pcie 5 on an asrock x870e nova WiFi
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'll try again soon with ALLM off , i was also using HDR PQ and Reflex (on + boost but for some reason it wasnt working so just "On")
Kemaro@reddit
I can echo your experience with mh wilds. Played the beta for several hours with no issues. I will try CP2077 with MFG. Have only played with 2x frame gen but not for very long, just to test it out for a few minutes.
jamyjet@reddit
Overwatch 2 with dlss quality will crash every match for me. But I have a 240hz monitor so this could be why as the issue seems to be bandwidth related. I was running at around 400-500 fps when the crashing happens. Has happened 4 or 5 times in that game. It's the only game outside of timespy that I can consistently black screen on.
Kemaro@reddit
Everyone with this issue, which AGESA version are you running? You can typically find this in the BIOS update notes from your motherboard manufacturer or from the "Mainboard" tab in CPU-Z under the BIOS section. I have a theory this is an AMD specific issue and I would like to gather some data on which AGESA versions affected users are running. Mine is 1.2.0.2b. ASRock x870e Nova WiFI.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI - version 1.G0 1.2.0.2b
Kemaro@reddit
Thanks for the reply. What all games or benchmarks exhibit the black screen crash for you?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I haven’t done enough game testing yet to isolate the issue to games only with X or Y. However, from my testing it will crash 100% of the time after the loading screen in Time Spy when my refresh rate is set to 240hz. If it’s set to 60hz, no crashes. 120hz ran for about 20 seconds then crashed. I can play league of legends @ 240hz 5120 x 1440 no problem. Fc25 aswell no issues. Skyrim with 4000 mods, crashed after a few minutes and then other times I can go for an hour with no issues.
Kemaro@reddit
So other than Skyrim games are mostly fine? Is the Skyrim crash the same type of crash as time spy? Sorry for all the questions, you just have the same agesa as me and all of my games run fine so I’m trying to determine if there is any meaningful data in that.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
What games have you tried?
Kemaro@reddit
MH Wilds beta and benchmark, CP2077, many many hours of KCD2 (addicted lol), Delta Force, Dota 2, Overwatch 2, Jedi Survivor, and Path of Exile 2 so far.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Oh I’ve played MH wilds beta also! And the benchmark with no hiccups. What settings did you use in 2077? Any mods? KCD2 is on my wish list! Oh and are you using the hotfix driver or the first one?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Same here mh beta for 5 hours straight no breaks etc (yes addiction) and not a single issue, same AGESA vers too !
Cyberpunk all maxed out 4k with MFG3 X3 DLSS4 Quality Transformer model will crash in a matter of minutes.
Ninja Gaiden 2 Black also crashed in 10/15 mins.
Each time i did crash i changed a settings shortly before, might be coincidence.
Kemaro@reddit
Not using hotfix driver, just 572.16 from Jan 30. Ran DDU prior to upgrading my GPU last Friday.
For 2077 using maxed out RT overdrive, 4k DLSS quality with 2x frame gen but also played for a long time with 3 and 4x frame gen just to see if I could cause a crash but couldn’t. On and HDR on the PQ setting since scRGB is disabled when using frame gen.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I haven’t played enough games to know if they are mostly fine but it does seem that way. Also the Skyrim issue I could put down to instability given there is 4000 mods running at once. I’m going to re-download cyberpunk as a lot of people have reported crashes there. The Skyrim crash is the same as time spy yes, grey screen with blue vertical lines and then if I do nothing after about a minute or so the pc restarts itself.
Kemaro@reddit
Yep that sounds just like the 3d mark crash to me. Good info, thank you.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Mine's 1.2.0.3a (ASUS TUF X670-E Plus Wifi), and it shows PCIe 5.0 when running the render test in GPU-Z.
Kemaro@reddit
Probably anectdotal, but I seem to be having slightly less problems on 1.2.0.2b than the folks on newer agesa. I only have the crashes in speed way and time spy, not any games I’ve tested.
jamyjet@reddit
what framerate and resolution do you typically game at? I've only really seen crashes at very high frame rates at 4k, overwatch 2 consistently crashed with dlss on as I have pushing 400 fps for example. Had one crash in marvel rivals but that was in the menu between games.
Kemaro@reddit
I normally run with vsync enabled at 120hz since that’s all my C2 can do but when I was testing to try to make games crash I had vsync disabled and let the fps go as high as possible.
jamyjet@reddit
I think the refresh rate of the panel has a lot to do with this issue seeing as 60hz fixes the issue entirely for me. I've seen people claiming games don't crash for them at 4k 120hz too. So that's likely why you aren't experiencing as many crashes.
Kemaro@reddit
Could very well be. I crash 100% of the time in speed way and time spy at 120hz though. Just not any games.
jamyjet@reddit
Mine is an MSI Tomahawk x870 Wifi on 1.2.0.3a
Kemaro@reddit
Thanks for the info. Asrock has a beta bios available to bring me up to 1.2.0.3a but if you are seeing issues with that as well I won’t bother updating.
jamyjet@reddit
One thing that's weird I've noticed is i don't have the option for pcie 5 on the top pcie slot in the bios. Just 1-4 and auto. Ive manually selected 4 but not sure where I can check in windows to see if the gpu is definitely using pcie 4.
Kemaro@reddit
Does your m.2 slot closest to cpu share lanes with gpu when populated with m.2 drive?
jamyjet@reddit
Ah, that's a good question, I don't know. It mentioned that the usb 4 ports lose speed when using certain m.2 slots. Just using hwinfo and my gpu says pcie 5. Not sure if it's just telling me the max speed it supports though.
Kemaro@reddit
I wonder if the 'auto' setting on your motherboard is what you need to set to get pcie 5? In GPU-Z, what do you see for bus interface? Should say PCIe x 16 5.0 @ x16 x.x where the x's are a lower bus speed due to the gpu being idle. You can click the ? to the right of this and start a render test to see the true speed the slot is running at. Try that and let me know what you see.
jamyjet@reddit
So in GPUZ it says PCIe x 16 5.0 @ x16 2.0, is that the current speed?
Kemaro@reddit
Run the render test and that 2.0 should jump up to 5.0
jamyjet@reddit
It jumps up to 4 currently, might try changing back to 5
jamyjet@reddit
I'm currently set to 4 so it says pcie 4 (under mainboard), I am curious if changing to auto will show 5, but given people have sited 5 as having issues I'm not gonna change it at the moment.
Kemaro@reddit
FWIW I use 5.0 and I have less problems than other people with this card. Not sure it’s entirely related.
jamyjet@reddit
Overwatch will consistently crash with dlss enabled, I suspect it's due to the high number of frames I get with dlss on. 400 or more sometimes. It even black screened my gpu and stopped me seeing the desktop. Had to swap display ports on the back of the gpu to get signal.
jamyjet@reddit
I'm wondering if atx 3.1 is required for these gpus as I have an atx 3 psu.
Slider_Override@reddit
I have a 3.1 and and it crashs
jamyjet@reddit
Yeah, nvidia confirmed they're compatible with both. Hopefully it's a driver error and not a pcie hardware issue with the bandwidth.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I've seen people with the same mobo as i do (ROG b650ee) and the same GPU (5090 Gaming Trio OC) with the same bios vers and win11 vers, all without the issues we got.
I'm lost tbh.
Kemaro@reddit
I have a suspicion this issue is a combination of nvidia driver and AMD agesa code. Seems to only affect AMD users. Hopefully all is resolved soon and we can enjoy our new cards fully
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
After all the connectors and cables talk today + our issues, safe to say that i'm starting to feel angry and kinda regret going back to NVIDIA lol
This is such a shitshow
Kemaro@reddit
If it makes you feel any better I have a FLIR attachment for my phone and my gaming trip 2x6 connector doesn’t get hot at all and the cable doesn’t show any hot spotting either. That’s with brand new corsair 1000w psu with native 2x6 connector.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'm using the official 2x8pin from corsair, can't test thermals at home but i know it's a great cable and i've seen someone testing our card with that cable, the load is even no funny shit like the FEs.
Kemaro@reddit
Random question, but what GPU clock frequency do you see your gaming trio oc hitting on average?
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
On average in Cyberpunk it's around 2650 iirc
Kemaro@reddit
I think I found a bug with afterburner causing my boost clocks to not be able to go past 2504mhz or so. After sleeping and waking PC though, boosts can go high again. Not sure how to fix it because a reboot of pc breaks it again until I sleep/wake.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I'm using AB too but i don't think ive seen this yet, tho i saw multiple reports of this kind of issue
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah think I’ll try DDU and start fresh again. This crap is getting old
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Lmk if things changed but i doubt it
jamyjet@reddit
I have an x870 mb and have issues though.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yeah i have an b650ee and we have the same Issues, like i said ive seen others with the same setup not having any problems.
It does looks driver related but it's so weird
Kemaro@reddit
Same here. Corsair RM1000x 2024 model, full atx3.1 and pcie5.1 compatibility with native 2x6 connector.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Are you downgrading your refresh rate ? As OP and many others found out, it's the only thing that seems to "work" for now.
I tried Cyberpunk all maxed out with framegen x3 (x4 adds too much input lag for my taste) i get around 160fps avg, crashed with blackscreen and pc goes into full reboot 1min or so later.
Tried again with my refresh rate set at 75hz for about 1 hour and it worked perfectly fine, just horribly janky at 75hz with framegen on but at least it "works".
If this is indeed what needs to be done to bandaid fix it, it's absolutely a bandwidth issue.
jamyjet@reddit
Yeah it's a bandwidth issue for sure. 60hz in windows fixed the consistent black screen/crash in timespy extreme for me. Obviously I'm not willing to game consistently at 60hz to test it but if I raise settings in overwatch and play without upscaling. 300 fps on average it seems more stable. As soon as I enable dlss and the fps is 400+ that's when the crashes happen. So using an fps cap in game does seem to help too.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Too much of the same reports to not be taken seriously at this point, i know they are "investigating" but that means nothing without any real blog post at the very least, hoping to see one by tomorrow or early this coming week.
IllClassic3965@reddit
Wow.$3,000 gpu and this is what you have to deal with? No thanks.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I've just been speaking to Nvidia for the last two hours and have given them every bit of detail possible, reddit posts, minidumps, event viewer information aswell as all of my pc information. I would highly recommend as many of you do this as possible if we are to get a fix sooner rather than later. They are aware of the issues and are working on a fix but with no eta as of now.
jamyjet@reddit
I've been doing the same over the last few days, providing dxdiag and msconfig files etc, pointing them to this reddit post too. Don't suppose they confirmed that it is a driver issue yet?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
They haven’t confirmed it’s a driver issue no, the customer service agent is just messenger. It’s been escalated and should hopefully hear back from someone with some know how relatively quickly, although I won’t hold my breath!
jamyjet@reddit
I was told that 4 days ago so I doubt you will, lol
Abizigial@reddit
Aside from negative effects in gaming, has anyone has issues even when watching youtube or playing a video? I get these small stutters every now and then, the audio sometimes glitches during these fraction of a second stutters as well. These stutters are also present in the games that I can run without crashes.
Kemaro@reddit
I don't think I get stutters in YouTube but I've noticed my browser Brave sometimes makes my monitor flash black for a split second. Only happens in Brave. I have also noticed Razer Synapse runs horribly after installing my 5090. The application is very sluggish and hangs for multiple seconds anytime you click on anything.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, I get small stutters and mouse freezes when I do certain stuff around the desktop.
For instance, if I touch anything related to GPU, it will freeze my mouse and everything for a few seconds.
Let's say I try to go into the Display Settings, I'll have the mouse freeze for a few seconds, and then if I try and change the refresh rate under Advanced Graphics Settings, it will also freeze my mouse (probably more than my mouse, I just haven't had a video playing at the same time).
And if I try and deactivate or active a monitor, using the Display Settings, it will freeze for such a long time.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
It's driving me insane, why does MH Wilds works for 5H without any problems with 110FPS
But Cyberpunk will hard crash the whole PC within 10 minutes...
Nvidia man....
Kemaro@reddit
Yeah this is a very strange issue because I have black screen lock ups in Speed Way and Time Spy but Cyberpunk I can play for hours with MFG at over 200 fps totally maxed out where as others are reporting CP2077 crashes within minutes for them.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Anyone tried to use the official adapter to see if it's still crashing ? , i'm getting a new PSU (same as OP HX1500i) it comes with the official Corsair 2x8pin to 12v (that i already have plugged in my hx1000)
Starting to wonder if it's the culprit in my case...
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I've tried both the Corsair cable and the Adapter that came with the GPU. Same thing happens with both.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
That rules that out thanks
Zirkoz@reddit
Yes I tested both and even a different PSU same exact problem and crashes.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
In a way it's good news, so far the only bandaid fix that had been found to work 100% is the lowering refresh rate workaround.
Oddly specific
Zirkoz@reddit
Yes, that means drivers issues in my opinion
Slider_Override@reddit
Or adding a secoind screen via HDMI and set it to <60Hz then the DP Screen can run with 240Hz (my workaround on 24H2)
Plexiscore@reddit
Yup I'm having the exact same issue. I wish I saw this instead of having to figure it out myself. Hopefully they release a fix soon.
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
Plexiscore@reddit
A 9700x CPU and a MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk motherboard. Yeah the BIOS is up to date.
I bought new monitors the other day, and it's been working fine now.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
What's your GPU and GPU brand?
Plexiscore@reddit
I have the MSI 5080 Suprim. I have my main monitor as HDMI, and my second monitor as DP, both on 144hz. When I had my main monitor connected to DP and set to 144hz, it stopped showing up until I reduced it.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Thought I'd add this in for anyone as it's worth a shot - https://thegeekpage.com/fix-nvidia-container-stopped-working-issue-in-windows-10/
I have just done it and will update if I get anymore crashes or not. It's pointing more and more towards a driver issue over hardware as I ran Skyrim VR with Mad god's overhaul for 3 hours yesterday on my Quest 3 with no crashes or issues with performance. Today I was playing Skyrim using Lorerim on my monitor and after about 10 minutes it threw up the grey screen with blue lines and then restarted itself after about a minute.
jamyjet@reddit
Please let us know if this works.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
It didn’t unfortunately! Really hoping it’s a driver issue and not an issue that will require RMA as that’s going to be a nightmare.
jamyjet@reddit
That's a shame, tempted to try the steps outlined here too https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/AOGslwnBCp
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
u/m_w_h is investigating with others all of our issues, if you have any input feel free to throw it at them here
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Appreciate it, will fire over what I have
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
A lot of people with exactly our problems there.
m_w_h@reddit
Impacted users all AMD?
Seeing a lot of reports from 9800X3D / 7800X3D but could be a be herring - not enough data.
Zirkoz@reddit
13700k here so nope !
m_w_h@reddit
As the system has an Intel 13th or 14th GEN CPU can the following be checked - see https://community.intel.com/t5/Blogs/Tech-Innovation/Client/Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop-Instability-Root-Cause/post/1633239 i.e. update motherboard BIOS if needed snf temporarily remove CPU overclocks/undervolt.
Zirkoz@reddit
Z790 carbon wifi here and bios up-to-date with the last microcode ! I need to try something else ?
m_w_h@reddit
Temporarily remove CPU overclocks/undervolt and any multicore turbo/enhancement mode.
Retest after temporary changes ^
Zirkoz@reddit
Already done, all stock Intel default settings 253watts.
m_w_h@reddit
Double checked CPU multicore turbo/enhancement modes aren't enabled by default in the BIOS by the motherboard manufacturer?
Zirkoz@reddit
Yes I double checked! Since the latest bios update MSI disabled all of core enhancements modes by default.
m_w_h@reddit
Understood, thanks for checking - appreciated.
11 DMs so far have been AMD systems, yours is the first Intel system so that helps.
Zirkoz@reddit
My pleasure! We're all in the same boat.
maxmw@reddit
I'm on intel 13700KF getting black screens mainly in UE games
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Quite hard to tell, most of us with a 5080/90 aim for the best and the best is at AMD currently..
I think ive seen reports of people using Intel but could bé a different issue.
Creepy_Community_727@reddit
I've had zero issues like this with my 5090. At all. Couple issues in control. But that's literally it.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
What are your specs + monitors?
Creepy_Community_727@reddit
9950x. 5090 gaming trio. Mobo is MSI Pro X870-P WIFI. And really? Are monitors relevant to this?
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
Creepy_Community_727@reddit
9950x. MSI Pro X870-P WIFI. And yes. Up to date. Latest nvidia driver installed. Running like a dream
Azula-Nova@reddit
Yeah here we go… I have the same issues with my MSI Rtx5090 Gaming Trio OC.. I already reached out to NVIDIA and MSI and send them the links to this post and several others. I hope it helps.. very worrying because it really seems to be related to this particular graphics card
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
Azula-Nova@reddit
AMD Ryzen 9800X3D and an Aorus Master X870e with the F4i bios version (most recent)
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That's good, because most of us got the usual DDU and talk to MSI. I did not reach out to MSI because for some reason I'm unable to create an account. Keep us updated on this!
But yes, I'm starting to get more and more worried that this might be an MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio issue too, though there are a lot of people with the same issues, with an RTX 5080 and even older GPUs, mainly after installing the latest drivers.
Azula-Nova@reddit
Okay MSI messaged me again and said that they are now in contact with NVIDIA because of this problem. I hope they’ll find a solution for this soon.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I hope that's not the usual message where they tell you that, just so you stop pestering them.
I'll give it until the middle of next week to have a fix out (doubt this so much), otherwise I'm returning this expensive paper weight...
GluhenAzalea@reddit
Commenting here for future updates. I have a gaming trio oc too but have not experienced said issues. Im just using a 165hz 1440p monitor atm
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
What CPU and MB do you have ? Is your bios up to date ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Do you have any other monitor? If so, try plugging that in at the same time, and then try and run Speed Way or Time Spy on your current monitor.
Yesterday I tested running at 1440p at 144hz and it worked. As soon as I plug any other monitor at the same time, I get black screens/crashes.
Azula-Nova@reddit
I still think that it is connected with high resolution (starting from 4K res) and high refreshrate Maybe
Sweet_Hall_9672@reddit
Adding to this also
Im having the same problem but with 5080 gamin trio.
2 monitors 1 in DP and 1 HDMI, getting black screens even in WoW.
My GPU also makes a wierd hi pitch noice, like its something electric as soon as its working. And the noice changes if i move the camera around in wow.
Anyone else that can hear the GPU?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Coil whine is often expected with a new GPU and tends to disappear after being stress tested. Mine had some and I ran a couple of Steel nomad stress tests then allowed it to cool down and restarted the pc and it's gone now.
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That's called Coil Whine. The Gaming Trios seem to have a lot of that.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
To be honest i have just a little bit of it , it's quite ok it's only "bad" when i get shit tons of FPS.
Seems like every brand is getting hit with some "heavy" cw with the 5090
Dekkar85@reddit
hello, my 5090 works "well" only without driver. With driver installed i cannot see the boot screen, so I can't reach the bios.
Anyone with black screen bug can try to enter uefi with "shutdown /r /fw /t 0" i get stucked with vga led on. Thanks
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
Dekkar85@reddit
9800x3d, x670 xtreme, last bios
jamyjet@reddit
You have to uninstall the driver with the video cable into the motherboard, then restart and plug it back into the GPU to install the drivers again, happened to me earlier today.
maxmw@reddit
I have exactly the same issue with my Gigabyte 5080 Gaming OC with an LG 32GR93U 4K monitor and I am ripping my hair out. I can get it happen consistently when running the Wukong benchmark. I normally get some flickers and artifacting followed by either a black screen or colour cycling, with the only way to recover being a hard reset.
Things I have tried:
- PCIe 4.0 - No change
- Running at 60hz on 24H2- No change
- HDMI or DP - No change, but HDMI seems to artifact and fail differently to DP
- Using a second HDMI monitor on 24H2 - No change
- Running at 1080p rather than 4k on my 4k monitor - No crash
- Running the same benchmark on a 1080p monitor - This also works, no crash
Things I still need to try:
- Running at 60hz on 23H2 - The suggested workaround
- Using a second HDMI monitor on 23H2 - The suggested workaround
- 80Gbps DisplayPort Cable - arriving later today
Will update as I test.
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Is your motherboard bios up to date ?
maxmw@reddit
It is
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So we do have the same monitor! I have some news on this.
Since the 60hz fix worked on 23H2, I decided to go ahead and install everything I normally do and hold and behold, it no longer works, the 60hz fix.
When I did try it the first time, I had done a clean install of 23H2, installed zero Windows updates, and only installed the AMD chipset drivers from AMD's website and the latest hotfix NVIDIA drivers. Nothing else was installed, and that's when it worked.
My next steps are to go ahead and do a clean install again, of the 23H2 Windows 11, install the AMD chipset drivers + NVIDIA drivers and test again if it works ok with the 60hz fix. If it does, then I'm going to start installing other system drivers + doing windows updates, one by one, and testing the Speed Way benchmark after every install, to try and find the "culprit" software/driver/windows update.
I'll report back once I'm done doing this.
AEUS_@reddit
any solution? I use PALIT 5090 gamerock Same issue,it will crash after about 1 hour gaming then you need reboot to get back to windows.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Yes, set your refresh rate below 100hz, although most of us are crashing within minutes not hours.
For example i can play the MH Wilds beta for 5h straight, 4k144hz all maxed out without any issues (110fps)
But cyberpunk in the other hand will crash in minutes if i go 4k144hz , all maxed out Path Tracing with MFG3 (160/80FPS)
It seems like once i go above my refresh rate, it simply crash.
AEUS_@reddit
Got it,I play FIVEM GTA5 on 4k160hz it crash time to time like after 1 hour or 2 hours, then i set it 120hz and played 2.5 hours then crash.....if I play CS2 and use 4:3 with 160hz the game just immediately crash.
I hope Nvidia aware this serious issue and can settle it as soon as possible....
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
You might wanna test CS2 with the same settings but set your refresh rate at 75hz or so, report back if it's crashing instantly.
AEUS_@reddit
Thanks..there is no option for 75hz so I just setting it to 60hz (both game and windows) and it works,the game can run now.but as the game like CS definitely need a high refresh rate to play,don't know when Nvidia can upload their new driver to settle the high refresh rate problem.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Another one with the same issues and the same workaround working, the next driver is suppossed to get released around the 20th, but even then we don't know if fixes will be inclued in it...
AEUS_@reddit
Hope so...Nvidia getting worse I highly suspect that they don't even finish the test before release their new products,wish every issue can be solved after next driver update.
Kobalt10001@reddit
Bonjour à tous
J'ai installé plus vite que prévu ma CG au vue des problèmes que j'ai pu lire pour être fixé. Afin d'aider ceux qui ont les soucis d'écran noir voila comment j'ai fais : - montage de la cg - branchement sur une vieille tv Samsung 4k 60hz avec un HDMI pourri de switch - j'ai essayer de mettre les pilotes 566 pour éviter les nouveaux qui apparemment cause des problèmes sauf que Nvidia bloque et oblige à installer les nouveaux logiques car ils sont spécialisés pour les nouvelles RTX 50 - j'installe les 572.16 sans le hotfix - j'éteins et rallume le pc - je met à jour msi afterburner et quelques conneries - je teste Silent Hill 2 R et ça fonctionne bien - de retour chez moi je branche la cg en DP sur mon écran 144hz et en HDMI sur ma tv 120hz, le pc s'allume correctement.
Pas d'écran noir, pas de bug à signaler. Ça fonctionne parfaitement. Le seul reproche que je pourrais lui faire c'est qu'elle chauffe plus que ma 4090 à peu près 15 degrés de plus avec la même courbe de ventilation. Elle est bien d'après GPU Z en pcie 5.0 x16
Je suis en Windows 11 24H2 Ma config LG 77G3 / MSI OPTIX 32 POUCES 4K - Boitier Cosmos C700P - RTX 5090 MSI Trio OC - Corsair HX1200 - AMD 9800X3D/Noctua NHD15G2 - ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO - 64 go Trident Z5 NEO 6000mhz CL30 - Crucial T705 5.0 M2/Samsung 990PRO M2
J'ai ensuite fait des tests de performances en 2880p et 3240p DLDSR sur Avatar Black myth wukong Indiana Jones Silent hill 2 remake Alan wake 2 Spiderman 2 Total war pharaoh Les fourmis Kingdom come délivrance 2 Star wars outlaws
Aucun bug, pas de Black screen et des performances au rendez-vous Si ça peut aider..
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ? BIOS is up to date ?
Some-Wolverine5421@reddit
So my issue is slightly different. Gaming Trio OC 5090
Timespy Extreme and Speedway cause a freeze with purple and green lines across the screen, often requiring a system reset.
Everything else is fine, hours of Cyberpunk no issues, Stalker 2 no issues.
MH Wilds bench no issues, don't update the FG DLL that causes a black screen for me.
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Which cpu / motherboard do you have please ?
LexTalyones@reddit
Can you try playing a custom bot game in Marvel Rivals in Shin Shibuya Tokyo 2099? The game always freezes when you pick Hela and do your ultimate.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Which Windows version do you have installed?
What is the brand and model of your monitor? Is your cable DP or HDMI? and which version of the cable?
Do you have 1 or 2 monitors? Are they plugged to DP or HDMI?
Some-Wolverine5421@reddit
So I'm on the latest version of Windows 24H2, cut down using ChrisTitus tweaks.
I have one monitor, the Alienware AW3423DW QDOLED 3440x1440
I am using a DP 1.4 cable, I am using just the one monitor.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
What's your motherboard model? Will start to try and figure if this happens more to AMD platforms or Intel.
Some-Wolverine5421@reddit
Well it looks like it was a one off. Speedway will now not load at 144Hz, it doesn't load and crash like a 175Hz, it just doesn't load, the bar either stops at 90% when loading or I get a black screen. Just tried 60Hz and it worked flawlessly. Very odd behaviour.
ASUS Rog-Strix-x670e-f-gaming-wif 9800X3D
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
This launch was a mess. I did a new update to the original post, on the current fix situation and next steps.
FunkRobocop@reddit
Thanks, following also. Same problemen with msi nvidia 4090. Sudden black screens with audio
FunkRobocop@reddit
Reseated my gpu and the black screens are temporarily gone.
Now passes 3DMark. Fortnite still crashes but no black screens so far
Slider_Override@reddit
i did already but nit from the us
Arthoid@reddit
Have you tried with enabling or disabling MPO?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Just tested now. Same issues.
Arthoid@reddit
Sad to hear.
Slider_Override@reddit
any update from nvidia ? i like to enjoy my 3000€ videocard!?
rnzgrc@reddit
If you have games crashing and pc restarts, check your computer power settings if it’s set to performance. If yes, choose balanced instead. Restart and see if games crashes.
Independent_Piano271@reddit
Tosser
Frantic_Otter3@reddit
Why ?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Would just like to echo that I am also experiencing this issue. I have a 5090 Gaming Trio OC paired with a Ryzen 7 7800X3D, MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WIFI and 32GB DDR5 Ram. Monitor is Samsung Odyssey OLED G9, I can play league of legends fine at 240hz refresh rate but if I try and play a demanding game or benchmark then I get a grey screen with blue lines down it in segments so 4/5 lines total. I then have to restart the pc to get rid of them. Presumably as others have said it's a driver issue however I did have a thought that it could be related to the card being overclocked from factory and that if we reduced the clock speeds to FE defaults maybe it would solve this. I am going to do some more testing and update with results.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Way too many Gaming Trio! This is getting completely out of hand.
Zirkoz@reddit
We have some gigabyte etc on Nvidia forums with the same issues. Not only MSI
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
RTX 5090?
Zirkoz@reddit
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/556792/announcing-geforce-hotfix-driver-57224-released-23/3498350/ here lastest comment
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Good to see a Gigabyte card also suffering these issues.
Thanks for the link.
Zirkoz@reddit
I saw something strange I have a live kernel 1B8 and when it crashes live kernel 153. I don't know if you have the same errors ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Haven't looked extensively, but I did see a 153 multiple times, last time I checked
Zirkoz@reddit
I continued experimenting, so with one monitor plugged in 4k at 95hz ! I can now finish 3d mark steelnomad stress test and port royal stress test with 20 loops no errors no black screens no artifacts
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Steel Nomad always works 100% at any configuration. Haven't tried Port Royal. To make sure the system is good, you need to run Speed Way or Time Spy.
Zirkoz@reddit
So far timespy 20 loops pass steelnomad 20loops pass port royal 20loop pass, time spy extreme crash speedway crash just after loading.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Try lowering to 60hz and running Speed Way. I have never done 20 loops, so there's a chance that it is not stable, the current solution of 4k@95hz (or even 60hz).
Later today I'll try and do at least 10 loops of Speed Way.
Zirkoz@reddit
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-is-investigating-reported-geforce-rtx-50-issues HEHE now we're talking !
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, great news! Let's hope NVIDIA releases a fix until the end of next week.
Zirkoz@reddit
I got videocardz attention on X https://x.com/Zirkoz1/status/1887841915376194034?t=JKKJgPAuJw2FccqA83yzXA&s=19 !
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Awesome! Let's hope this starts spreading quickly, so that it gets NVIDIAs attention even more.
jamyjet@reddit
I'm also curious if an undervolt could fix the issues. But to me at least based on my findings it seems like it's something to do with DSC not being utilisted properly to hit the higher refresh rates of most monitors people are running right now. It's fine if you set your refresh rate lower in windows or the nvidia control panel but at 100hz or more it starts to get black screens or crashing (and weird flickering for me when turning hdr off and on again etc)
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
That would make a lot of sense seeing as when I play league it only uses 10% of the GPU and holds 240fps no problem but when trying to benchmark and GPU usage shoots up to 97% it causes the grey screen. The joys of PC, constant tinkering!
grobiatti@reddit
Not sure if this will be of any help But, I was having a weird issue where the system wouldn’t post with 2 monitors plugged into DP. What I ended up doing is plugging my primary into the very top DP port and the 2nd monitor into the 2nd port down and my issue was resolved. My main display is a 240hz 3440x1440 and my secondary is a 2560x1440 175hz. And everything is good for now. When I was having the issue before I had my primary plugged into the DP #3 the closest one to the HDMI port.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
In my case, that's definitely not it as I've actually never plugged anything into the the DP nearest to the HDMI, only the other two DP ports. Are you on an RTX 5090 ou 5080?
grobiatti@reddit
I’m on a 5090FE
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Glad to see it's not only the MSI Gaming Trios that are having these issues
G-L-O-H-R@reddit
I'm having the same issues, RTX 5080 MSI gaming trio, black screen right away. I can't even get it post. When I get home tonight I'm going to try and install the nivida hotfix for the current 572.16 and see if that helps, as well as changing the PCIE GEN switch to GEN4/3. If that doesn't work I'll use DDU to wipe the drivers and re-install. Not sure if this will work, but it seems like the fixes people have are ALL different some saying DDU did nothing. Some simply changed their PCIE to 4/3 and it works. It's utter nonsense and very fristrationg
maxmw@reddit
If you arn't posting it could well be due to the PECIE GEN issue, most people reporting this issue are normally just crashing under load during a benchmark or a game.
G-L-O-H-R@reddit
It ended up being my PSU cable not being fully seated. After I tried using the adaptor it came with and seeing how ugly it was. I have the 12vhpwr another try, but routed it differently in my Y70 it looks kinda ugly.. but it works! And on the new driver.. fingers crossed lol
G-L-O-H-R@reddit
I've tried putting it back to GEN4 and nothing, I'm going home now to troubleshoot more, I'll set it to Gen3 and try that new hotfix update and go from there. If that fails then reinstall drivers through DDU n shit I guess
G-L-O-H-R@reddit
I'm at loss and I do have the most current windows update... naybe the hotfix they released will help?
DukeofDemacia@reddit
I have the same issue but have a 3080. Like you have tried a number of fixes and was thinking the card was going bad but this post gives me hope it may be something else
maxmw@reddit
What driver are you running out of interest?
DukeofDemacia@reddit
I was using the latest driver but did a fresh install so have 560.94 at the time of this comment. Regardless of older/newest driver the issue is happening.
Abizigial@reddit
Experiencing screen going solid black/grey in certain applications, so far cyberpunk causing it either as soon as I load or after a minute. Audio still working in the background but displays are gone. I have to restart manually. Using the 5090 gaming trio OC. I have 3 monitors plugged in, 2 DP, and 1 HDMI. My main monitor is 4k 240hz. I haven't tried unplugging any monitors yet or messing around with their configuration.
maxmw@reddit
Things to try:
Just one DP monitor
Reduce the monitor to 60hz
reduce the resolution to 1080p
Would be interesting to see if any of these stop the crashing
Abizigial@reddit
I just finished testing. Tried gen4 & bios update, both didn't work. I disconnected my secondary and tertiary displays via display settings (the physical cables were still connected), and I set my primary display to 60hz 4k 8bits, and now cyberpunk no longer causes my drivers to crash.
maxmw@reddit
Okay intresting, what about 240hz but 1080p?
Abizigial@reddit
I haven't tried 1080p but I did try 4k 120hz and it still crashes. So 4k 60hz might be the only way for me to play games right now (at least certain games).
jamyjet@reddit
It's a bandwidth issue seemingly, I don't have issues with 4k 60hz but anything higher producers weird flickering changing refresh rates or toggling hdr on and off. Plus black/grey screen crashes consistently in timespy extreme and occasionally while gaming.
maxmw@reddit
Just out of interest. Have you tried 1080p or 1440p but higher refresh rates?
jamyjet@reddit
Same issue at 1080p 240hz too (at least the weird flickering I was getting before, didn't try the benchmark to make it crash but the flickering was a bad omen)
JokerXIII@reddit
Hello, adding my contribution to the black screen issue. I'm using a 4K OLED TV at 120 Hz (LG 65CX) with an RTX 3080. That was working smoothly without issues with an RTX 3080 10GB beforehand.
60 Hz does not work at all for me; 120 Hz works for some time on Civilization VII—4–5 hours, sometimes less—and then the screen goes black.
Some games, like Throne and Liberty and Witcher 3, instantly black screen/cause a PC reboot as soon as the main screen is passed.
I don't have the option of using a DisplayPort with the TV; I'm stuck with HDMI 2.1.
maxmw@reddit
What happens for you if you set your resolution to 1080p 120hz?
JokerXIII@reddit
It's a bit ugly 1080 on a 4k monitor hahaha
maxmw@reddit
It is, it would just be interesting to see because that stops the crashing for me.
JokerXIII@reddit
Ok you are into something bro. I set up my 4k screen on windows on 1080p 120hz I power on Throne and liberty.
1080p 117fps steady butter smooth without issue with dlss quality (without dlss it's super blurry ugly) No crash for 5 min
Then I ramp in game to 1440p Butter smooth 117 fos steady no issue, again ultra with dlss quality.
Then I increase to 4k, black screen after 5 sec then reboot.
So it seems that it can't handle this amount of data.
(I said 117fps because that is my fps limit in rivaturner to force gsync and avoid weird synchro issue at 120fps/vsync)
maxmw@reddit
Yeah very interesting, you have the same symptoms as I do, no change with refresh rate but resolution fixes it. It does feel like some sort of bandwidth issue, the weird thing is most benchmarks other than tomb raider and Wukong work for me. Witcher 3 and cyberpunk work fine.
JokerXIII@reddit
Yes, I confirm; I ran the Cyberpunk benchmark, and it worked fine—all ultra, DLSS quality, RT on psycho. I got 60 fps at 4K.
Then I played the game normally, and it crashed after 4 minutes. I suspect indeed a bandwidth issue that causes the GPU to jump/turn off when the bandwidth is unstable like when playing.
As I guess, most benchmarks have relatively stable bandwidth, like Civilization VII where the gpu load is very consistent(more heavy on cpu I guess), where I was able to play for 5 or 6 hours without interruption before crashing.
maxmw@reddit
Ah okay, il try play cyberpunk, I have only tried the benchmark. What driver are you running?
JokerXIII@reddit
The official one the 572.16, is there another?
maxmw@reddit
There is a hotfix driver that may fix some crashing including in cyberpunk: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5624
Might be worth a try.
JokerXIII@reddit
Did you try it? I will test it right now
maxmw@reddit
I still crash in wukong and rise of the tomb raider with this driver but I did see people say it fixed crashing in some games for them including cyberpunk.
JokerXIII@reddit
Ah let me try then
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Just to give an update, it seems this issue is driver related and not hardware. I can run games fine without any crashes but as soon as I run Speed Way benchmark I get a grey screen with blue lines and if I wait it out my PC restarts. When checking event viewer on restart I had these errors -
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000133 (0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000001e00, 0xfffff804b5fc33a0, 0x0000000000000000)
And then this one also:
The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load.
Device: ROOT\DISPLAY\0000
Status: 0xC0000365
So it seems this is now just a waiting game for a new driver and for as many of us as possible to raise it with MSI/Nvidia until it is fixed.
maxmw@reddit
Does the Wukong benchmark with raytracing work for you? I can pass Speed Way every time but the Wukong benchmark consistently causes grey artifacting and then a black screen on my 5080.
LexTalyones@reddit
Wukong benchmark didn't freeze my PC. DLAA Cinematic Super Res 100 with Very High RT at 4K. Frame gen on and off
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Just downloaded it and turned everything up to max and had to restart after turning ray tracing on. The game then didn’t start and restarted my pc instead, got the same error in event viewer - The driver \driver \ WUDFRd failed to load. I then launched it again and it opened with no issues and completed the benchmark fine.
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Did you stress test in 4K 120/144hz ?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
5 runs, no crashes. Seems to be stable.
maxmw@reddit
Interesting, yeah to be honest it works for me fine at 1440p or 1080p its just at 4k its crashing
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
5120 x 1440 is basically 4k it’s 90% of the pixels, I’ve also just ran it on my s90C which is a 4K oled tv and it ran through fine there too.
maxmw@reddit
Yeah true, thanks. Strange how it's different benchmarks for different people triggering this. It's hard to find something consistent across different people reporting this.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Do you crash in games normally? Or only when benchmarking? The common theme for 5090 MSI gaming trio owners seems to be the speed way benchmark. I’m running a steel nomad stress test as we speak.
maxmw@reddit
So the only places I get a crash so far is the shadow of the tomb raider benchmark and the wukong benchmark, all 3d mark benchmarks work fine as well cyberpunk, I need to do more testing though.
LexTalyones@reddit
Can you try playing a custom bot game in Marvel Rivals in Shin Shibuya Tokyo 2099? The game always freezes when you pick Hela and do your ultimate.
maxmw@reddit
Tested but doesn't freeze for me
LexTalyones@reddit
It freezes my pc with a black screen if it's above 60hz. I'm confused if this is a hardware issue or a driver issue
maxmw@reddit
Most likely a driver issue at the moment, what resolution are you running?
LexTalyones@reddit
4K. But resolution doesn't matter in my tests. The game crashes at 720p, 1080p and 1440p if it's above 60hz. It's weird because in other games I can play 4k 144hz no problem. I can even run furmark with no issues. Can't test on speedway though as I don't have 3dmark.
maxmw@reddit
Hmmm strange. Have you tried the wukong benchmark with ray tracing? Does that crash for you?
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Have only run it once so far, going to do a few more runs. I’m running it at 5120 x 1440 @ 240hz
LexTalyones@reddit
Can you try playing a custom bot game in Marvel Rivals in Shin Shibuya Tokyo 2099? The game always freezes when you pick Hela and do your ultimate.
nimbulan@reddit
I wonder how widespread these issues are? I got my 5080 FE yesterday and am running 1440p 360Hz DP (DSC) + 1080p 60Hz HDMI on Windows 11 24H2 and didn't notice any issues after several hours of gaming last night.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Very widespread. Check the NVIDIA GeForce forums.
nimbulan@reddit
Ah that's a good point, I haven't been there in a while. It has been a bit shocking seeing how many people are reporting problems elsewhere, despite the extremely limited stock for launch.
SgtKikkoman@reddit
I'm having this issue with a 4070 super, I thought it was my monitor dying, as long as I don't change resolutions or refresh rates it seems to work fine, but if the monitor goes black I have to unplug and reset my monitor for it to turn back on.
jamyjet@reddit
Did you see this from nvidia? Is this confirmation the issue is because of DSC? https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ijzffi/is_this_nvidias_way_of_saying_the_black_screen/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Even with DSC off, nothing changes. Still black screens/crashes
maxmw@reddit
I still crash if I turn DSC off on my monitor
misiek685250@reddit
On my intel platform (overclocked i7 13700k, DDR5 RAM) my 5080 (overclocked also) works stable without any issues. There's a hot hotfix available maybe try that. I have it installed, no issues
maxmw@reddit
If you get chance could you do me a favour and run the wukong benchmark (its free) with everything at cinematic, with raytracing at max and frame generation on. I am on intel 11700kf and I crash with a black screen and colour cycling on that benchmark.
misiek685250@reddit
I would, but dunno how to post screenshots from benchmark here
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
How many monitors? Which resolution/refresh rate?
misiek685250@reddit
2560x1440, 240Hz, but one monitor
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That might be why. I only tested 1440p at 144hz, with a single monitor connected to a DP port, and it worked fine.
Anything above 4k@95hz, shows problems. Or even just connecting more than 1 monitor at the same time.
misiek685250@reddit
What I haven't tested, is that DLDLSR option in drivers (that upscaled resolution, don't remember the name of that technique). If the issue is 4K then will test it
maxmw@reddit
So weirdly I crash a native 4k but 1080p then using DSR to scale up to 4k works fine (on my 4k monitor)
misiek685250@reddit
I wanted to test that on my rig (mine is 1440p native). It's weird
maxmw@reddit
Yeah it does feels like a bandwidth problem at high native resolutions with high refresh rates. I suppose with DSR you aren't actually running that higher resolution
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Lurking here since the first R/NVIDIA post.
This looks to be a bandwith issue with 4K and high refresh rate.
Try to stress test every resolution and rr possible.
Also : stock vs power limiting at 75% , 8bit color vs 10bit color.
Disable fast boot.
maxmw@reddit
Yeah I think you could be right, I crash at 4k but never crash at 1080p
IanOnTheSpectrum@reddit
This is affecting me with the RTX 5080 FE running two 2160p displays at 60Hz (one HDMI and one DP).
It’s particularly problematic when the NVENC chip is in use and has caused me some issues with complete system lockup. Or just the NVENC chip going away resulting in an error.
This is running the latest Windows 11 Enterprise with an AMD Ryzen 9800X3D CPU.
Themavy@reddit
Is this with AIB only cards or does the FE have this issue too?
kulind@reddit
Any people on Intel platform suffer this problem
maxmw@reddit
Yeah I am on intel (11700KF) with a 5080 and it's happening for me on rise of the tomb raider benchmark and the Wukong benchmark, but I weirdly am not getting crashes on cyberpunk or any of the 3DMark benchamrks that other people are.
Slider_Override@reddit
Gibt es noch immer kein statement von Nvidia ?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
No statement yet, unfortunately.
DdaaHeining@reddit
I just upgraded to Windows 11 23H2 using 1Monitor with 1080P@60hz HDMI and 1440p@240hz DP Everything working great with the Gaming Trio
Azula-Nova@reddit
I guess the problem only occurs when you combine high resolution (4K+) with a high refreshrate.
jamyjet@reddit
That's how it seems for me so far. Never had this issue with my 4090. And my 5090 can clearly output high frames with no issue in some games. And everything runs fine if I cap my refresh rate to 60hz in windows. Benchmarks like timespy running at 150fps or higher with no black screens just the screen locked to 60hz. Seems to be some miscommunication between the display ports on the back or dsc not being fully supported etc.
aXque@reddit
I don't have a 5000 series GPU but I wan't to help, I know the feeling.
Does your GPU's have multiple bioses? Try it on all of them and see if it's the same issue.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I have not tried that. Mine is currently in Gaming mode. I'll try to switch it to Silent tomorrow and report back.
Slider_Override@reddit
Its the same @ both bios (Gaming / Silent)
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, unfortunately it's indeed the same..
zushiba@reddit
This sounds suspiciously like your cable isn't capable of driving the display at whatever resolution/refresh rate the card is attempting to push. Same thing was happening to me. I upgraded from a 40gbps display port cable to a 54gbps cable and the random blackouts went away. I legit didn't think that could be a problem because both cables were supposedly "rated for 4k @ 240Hz" but something about Display Stream Compression yada yada yada, I needed a new cable.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I did purchase a new DP 2.1 80Gbps cable yesterday, but it still got me curious your observation. What I'm going to try is use an HDMI 2.1 cable that came with my monitors, and it should be certfiied to work with 144hz. If the issue persists, then that probably means, in this case, that the cable is not the problem, at least for my situation.
full_knowledge_build@reddit
Did the new cable fix it?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
No, the issues remained. Check the original post as there have been lots of updates.
zushiba@reddit
Be sure to actually check the certification of the cable. I've seen a LOT of cables that claim to be certified but that's a complete lie.
See this fun thread, it's a bit out dated but is extremely informative.
Once you know, you can start checking cords on Amazon and marvel at the fact that probably 90% of the cables that claim to be certified aren't certified at all.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The thing is that I tried over 10 cables, including certified 2.1 HDMI cables, and used 4k@60hz, which pretty much any shitty cable should do, right?
zushiba@reddit
Possibly, especially at 10800/60Hz you shouldn't see any problems. Just for GP did you make sure your monitors firmware is up to date? Have you attempted to enable/disable gsync?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, my main monitors are on the latest firmware, plus I tested another 4k monitor plus my OLED 4k@120hz TV. They all have the same issue.
Tried disabling/enabling GSYNC, VRR, GPU Schedulling, etc. Didn't affect the outcome, the problems still remained, unfortunately.
zushiba@reddit
Is this only happening with Time Spy? Or is it happening in actual gaming sessions?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
It happens in Time Spy, Speed Way and sometimes on Fire Strike even. In gaming sessions, it happens after just 2 minutes of Elden Ring. Haven't tried any other games for long enough for it to crash.
The Speed Way benchmark is the fastest to give a problem. If the problem is present, it's instant black screen after the loading bar completes.
Also, doing stuff sround Windows, that touches anything display related, is super slow, laggy and freezing the mouse cursor. For instance, if I open the Dispay settings, the cursor will freeze for a few seconds. If go into advanced graphics, it will freeze the cursor for a bit too. If I change the refresh rate, it will also freeze the mouse cursor, etc.
zushiba@reddit
Is this with dual monitors or just 1?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
This is with more than 1 monitor plugged in. It also happens with 1 monitor plugged in into a DP port, when the resolution and refresh rate are at 4k@144hz. (My monitors max refresh rate) And it also always happens with 1 monitor plugged into the HDMI port. With HDMI, it will have problems even at 1080p@60hz.
The only current solution that works is to just plug 1 single monitor into a DP port and make sure the resolution and refresh rate are not higher than 4k and 95hz.
zushiba@reddit
I would highly suggest finding a friend who has a gaming system for you to test the card in another system all together to at least narrow down if the issue is related to just the card or an incompatibility between the card and your system in particular.
The only other thing I could think, would be perhaps your triggering an over volt on your power supply. If you're running a dual rail PSU make sure that your feeding power to the card from both rails not just 1.
Barring that, you might be looking at an RMA, though I might wait to see if nvidia's next driver update fixes the issue.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Unfortunately my friends are all console players, so I'm unable to try my GPU in another computer.
My Corsair HX1500i is just a few months old and was handling the RTX 4090 just fine, so I'm leaning torwards it being just fine.
But yes, unfortunately it's either return the GPU (I have 12 days of a return window), or just wait for new drivers, but I have a feeling this won't be fixed fast by NVIDIA, even though there are so many users with these problems.
zushiba@reddit
Crap, yeah I wouldn't want to wait around on nVidia to fix it either. I'd return it and hope to get a better one next time. Hopefully you have a backup videocard you can use until you can get a replacement.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
I would like to note I am also running it on an 850W psu, Corsair rm850e. Which is cutting it very fine power wise but I have a 1000w arriving tomorrow and will see if the issue persists. I also have only tested so far with Speed Way benchmark and it happens right after the loading screen but I did try loading up ghost recon breakpoint and running the benchmark which went smoothly bar the irritating coil whine.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I have a 3 month old Corsair HX1500i, so the problem is not the PSU, I think.
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
It probably isn’t! Just throwing ideas out there, I’ve filled out the form you linked for Nvidia which hopefully speeds things along a little bit. Have you tried reducing the clock speeds to see if the issue persists?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That was actually my next idea to try. Will try that next!
Wooden-Collection141@reddit
Good luck, let me know how you get on
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Lowering the power limit to 80% and lowering the GPU clock and Memory clock to -500, it doesn't even show the loading of the benchmark, it just kind of freezes the benchmark. Tried Speed Way.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The thing is that I tried over 10 cables, including certified 2.1 HDMI cables, and used 4k@60hz, which pretty much any shitty cable should do, right?
jamyjet@reddit
It's definitely some sort of bandwidth issue. I get black screens/grey screen crashes in benchmarks with HDR and a refresh rate over 100hz. And when changing between hdr on and off and refresh rate over 120hz or below 120hz I get crazy flashing/artifacting on the black screen that shows inbetween. I'd have said it's a cable issue if I hadn't used 3 DP cables and 3 HDMI cables (all with more than enough available bandwidth to drive my 240hz panel. I'm curious if it's a DSC issue as my monitor doesn't have a way to disable DSC. (AW32). Wondering if this is a straight up compatibility issue or something that can be fixed with software. I never had issues driving this panel with the same cables on my 4090.
jamyjet@reddit
now that I'm thinking about it, it could be an issue with the new connector too, obvious it's specific to the new gen cards so difficult to troubleshoot if that's the case
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
Some people with a x trio oc don't experience this issues, some with others brand does...
Wondering if it's mobo tied, or maybe even SSD ? SN770 had some bsod issues with 24h2 so who knows maybe a new fuck up is in place here...
Just received my own x trio 5090 and i'm getting scared af lol
jamyjet@reddit
Mine is a gaming trio oc, I have a brand new 990 pro ssd and a brand new msi x870 tomahawk mb. Given the issue can seemingly be fixed by lowering your refresh rate it seems to be driver or os update side
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
I keep writing x trio for some reasons, yeah i meant gaming.
This is really weird, most of the complaints come from this card (even tho i've seen a gigabyte in this thread).
FE is seemingly more into the PCie issues, not much about this particular one.
I asked this guy from a review thread and he has no issues at all.
jamyjet@reddit
No idea why they dropped the x in the name this generation. But yes, lots of issues seem to be with this card mentioned which does worries me
SomeoneNotFamous@reddit
One thing to test maybe : if anyone can use a dual pc streaming setup with the GPU connected to a 4K capture card and see how it goes...
Yeah it's really specific but at this point idk lmao
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I've tested over 10 different cables, and they all produce the same issues. My monitor supports disabling DSC, which I did try, and the problem remains the same.
My RTX 4090 had zero issues, but I'm seeing a lot of users with GPUs from older generations that are having these sort of issues as well, which means this all points to an NVIDIA driver issue.
jamyjet@reddit
I really hope that's the case, don't want to part with my 5090 given how unlikely it is I'll be able to get another one. Luckily I have 3 weeks before I need to RMA it so it'd be crazy if these issues persist until then. Have you approached nvidia support with your findings at all regarding refresh rate etc?
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I did through chat, to which their response was "Reach out to MSI.".
I then proceeded to fill out a form for the Driver Feedback from NVIDIA, which I encourage everyone to do the same, so that they learn of these issues as fast as possible.
Here's the form.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSewHJk1xP-C5elLBRCDLTLpNQZ9eiefrdZmUGP9hMCN6gKssA/viewform
jamyjet@reddit
Thanks, filled it out. I tried contacting msi support and they just asked me to do the usual ddu and reinstallation of drivers...
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
So, quite useless MSI, unfortunately...
jamyjet@reddit
I'm just going to keep pestering nvidia support live chat until every employee knows about the issue
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
That's actually a good idea :D
jamyjet@reddit
One weird thing I've noticed is my monitor has DSC on at all times, but yet I now have the option to enable DSR in the nvidia control panel which is odd.
Also assuming you tried doing a clean install of drivers with the iGPU disabled? Nvidia just suggested this. I did try disabling it in the bios and still got a crash but not a clean install while it was disabled.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, my iGPU has been disabled in the BIOS since the very beginning of testing.
Tried setting PCIe to 2.0 and the problems still remained as well.
jamyjet@reddit
Nvidia said they would email me back with an update, will probably just be more trouble shooting steps but something I guess.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, it will probably be just that. Right now, the best is definitely to fill the Driver feedback form.
The next best thing would be to reach out to famous tech youtubers, to get NVIDIAs attention quicker xD
jamyjet@reddit
Testing timespy at 60hz on the latest windows update and no black screens outside the usual one at the start and end of the benchmark due to dolby vision. So that's definitely a factor.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yeah, at least you can partially use it while waiting for a fix from NVIDIA or, if nothing seems to change, return the GPU :S
jamyjet@reddit
Yeah, that's my plan, definitely keeping my 4090 around for the time being.
Christianator1954@reddit
OMG, finally someone with the same problem. I was of firm belief that my brand new 5090 Gaming Trio was dead. I even just bought a 9800x3d to check whether the problem persists with pcie 5.0 (previously 5800x3d only 4.0)
At first I had the exact same issues with the new CPU as well, now after I found your post I just unplugged my second Monitor on my 5090. I am now using a single Monitor (AW2725DF, 360hz, 1440, GSync on windowed) I am on 24H2 and my system just works now, even at 360hz.
Thank you so much, I was just about to send the 5090 back.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
Yes, as of last testing, this is what works for me: - Only 1 monitor can be plugged into a DP port - No other monitor can be plugged in any other DP or HDMI port. - Setting 4k@95hz, or lower, works fine. No black screens so far. - Setting 4k@144hz does not work. Black screens issue - Plugging a single monitor into the HDMI will not work, even at 60hz.
But, as you can see, in your case it's different, where it runs fine up to 360hz (maybe because it's 1440p, don't know)
The problem is that I'm not seeing NVIDIA fixing this issue quickly, and with such a small return window, I'm still torn between returning it or waiting for a driver...
Christianator1954@reddit
Maybe it has something to do with DSC (Display Stream Compression)? My monitor has DP 1.4 (and needs it to acchieve 360hz), sadly DSC cannot be disabled on this Monitor for testing this theory
maxmw@reddit
Yeah I had the same thought, I can disable DSC on my monitor but it still crashes for me.
Christianator1954@reddit
My thought was the other way round :D It does not crash for me anymore after using Hotfix and only one monitor (that has DSC enabled), so i thought DSC on might help by reducing the bandwith, however that doesnt seem so change anything. Still weird that 360hz works fine for me
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
My monitor allows disabling DSC, and I've tried all combinations with it, and they all produce the same issue.
Slider_Override@reddit
on my 5090 it works with 7680x2160@59,94Hz without a Blackscreen, but not with 60Hz I get underload again Blackscreens
In Windows 7680x2160@240Hz is fine, without load
Chris00008@reddit
And now we know why it was a paper launch.
Hyzse@reddit
I’m also having black screen problems, although not completely similar. You can check my post on it but it’s only when I launch a demanding game that it nearly instantly black screens and I’m forced to manually reboot my pc.
3Dmark tests work fine which confused me. I was thinking it’s a PSU problem since it’s showing all of those signs but I’m inclined to believe it’s a driver issue.
sillybonobo@reddit
Do you have multiple monitors plugged in? I had exactly the same thing. Complete loss of video output when launching cyberpunk and sometimes on boot. However the issue only occurs when two DP cables are hooked up to my monitors. With one monitor or 1 DP, one HDMI, the games load just fine
Hyzse@reddit
Yup have two monitors both on DP. Haven’t seen the issue outside of these games yet though.
sillybonobo@reddit
You might try unplugging one monitor and trying to launch the game. I've been trying to figure out if it's driver or hardware so another person having it would kind of settle the debate
Hyzse@reddit
Just tried running some games with just one monitor. It worked pretty well ngl. Granted I only tested it for like 5 mins but that's longer than the 10 tries I did yesterday where I would crash in 2-30 seconds.
sillybonobo@reddit
Well here's hoping it continues working! It's at least a decent work around until the drivers get their act together
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
I also have the black screen in demanding games. The problem is that my return window is going to run out before they fix this...
Hot-Procedure-35@reddit
Following as my Gigabyte Aorus Master 5090 arrives tomorrow. I seem to see more AMD chipsets affected than intel currently however.
Pajer0king@reddit
Bad luck, next time have a little more patience
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The problem is that we're not 100% sure it's a drivers issue, and lots of us have a limited time window to return the GPU..
yoyigu38@reddit
Something similar happened to me when I left my computer on standby (I had gone to eat), after I came back and moved the mouse so that the image returns, suddenly the colors black, blue, white, red start and it starts again...so weird.. I have a high end computer but with a 3080 ti since I still can't get a 5090, but I have the impression that it is a driver problem or the latest Windows update.
zpinto1234@reddit (OP)
The coloring issue is actually when the monitor goes into Test mode (from what I read). When the GPU has a problem, some monitors go into that mode.
With some other monitors, it just goes into a black screen.
I have both the colors and the black screen issue.
The best benchmark to replicate the issue is definitely 3dMark Speed Way and Time Spy.