Is R7 5800x3D enough for RTX 5080 at 1440p?
Posted by ChrisParty@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 122 comments
As title states, wondering if I should upgrade cpu to something like 9800x3d or if current cpu is enough at 1440p?
Will it bottleneck too much?
Cheers
GR4V3MI5TAK3@reddit
Yes. It's literally the fastest gaming cpu for AM4 that used to be available to consumers. If you have it already then use it. You're not missing out on anything to have games run smoothly. AMD is supposedly re-releasing it for 10year anniversary of AM4.
These days in Europe AM4 gaming and productivity CPUs are sold almost exclusively second hand for double or triple the price of a brand new 98003D. So if you're building a new pc and are planning to buy all parts new then go with the newer AM5 architecture.
In my country scalpers siphon away all gaming CPUs on release so you build with what you can get unless you want to risk getting scammed, paying 2-3x msrp or import from neighboring countries and potentially deal with international warranty if something craps out.
Limpperi@reddit
You're fine, a 5800x3d is still plenty fast and you will be gpu limited most of the time anyway with new games
basement-thug@reddit
There are actually a lot of situations where a 7800x3d or 9800x3d give not insignificant increases in performance over a 5800x3d. The 5800x3d is good, but it ain't the GOAT it was anymore.
Financial-Echidna469@reddit
You’re also forgetting the ddr5 reliance and entirely new socket. It’s assuredly still the goat considering a large base of people are still using ddr4 and don’t want to upgrade their motherboard too like me. I could upgrade but why do that when my goated cpu still handles today’s games with no bottleneck without the 400-500 in ddr5 and a mobo just to install the 7800 or 9800x3d
basement-thug@reddit
I paid 500 for 7800x3d, mobo and ram... it was worth it.
bunter1030@reddit
give a single example
basement-thug@reddit
If you spend any time looking at benchmarks on YouTube you'll find them. If you want to know it's out there, now go.
bunter1030@reddit
refuses to give examples because you know you’re lying LOL. in cpu based games youll get more useless frames sure but we’re talking gpu based games that actually have graphics, jumping above a 5800x3d will generally give you minimal to no performance gain. now go
basement-thug@reddit
Yeah I've seen the examples, I didn't bookmark them or memorize them, and you aren't entitled to the time I spent looking and learning... you go find it. I'm not doing that for you.
TheMustachedDad@reddit
had to downvote this one too bc you said bros head was in the sand when he literally just asked where your head was lmfao
TheMustachedDad@reddit
bro, i upvoted your op comment, but this comment was kind of a cop out answer so i had to downvote...
do better
nver85@reddit
For example?
verci0222@reddit
RT is actually incredibly cpu intensive as well. 5800x3d should be fine but still
_bisquickpancakes@reddit
Yep agreed and then if op used upscaling, pretty sure upscaling is also more intensive on the CPU as well
bunter1030@reddit
i mean hes using a 5080 at 1440p… shouldn’t really need upscaling tbf
OGigachaod@reddit
In a round a bout way yes, upscaling starts by using a lower resolution (like 1080p) so you end up with a CPU bottleneck once again.
amieler@reddit
Idk if this info is useful to you, I have a r7 5700x3d + 4080 super. Both of which are 8-10% less performance than 5800x3d and 5080 respectively.
It runs smooth even with cpu intensive games at 1440p.
TheKorean83@reddit
I really wanted to see this, I've been sitting on 5600x and 1070ti since covid times. I went to Walmart the other day, and there just happened to be a lone 5080 in the display case for only 840 usd!! I bought it, but my 5600x is far to weak, and a platform change is way more expensive then just getting a 5700x3d
LegalConstruction138@reddit
at some games 5800x3d is bottleneck.... at 1440p for me at least
Dachuster@reddit
It will be bottlenecked; I was just playing battlefield 2042 and was hitting 90-100% cpu usage with my set up (5800x3d & rtx 5080)
PinchCactus@reddit
It will fall behind depending on the workload. I have a 5800x3d and 7900xtx and you will see gpu usage drop to 80% in some games in certain scenarios at 3440x1440. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't own one.
bunter1030@reddit
i gave the same config and have never had that happen. what games has that happened in?
PinchCactus@reddit
At 3440x1440- DCS for sure. There are others but I didn't make a list and my brain is fried from playing too much arma reforger. It doesn't happen in that game.
bunter1030@reddit
ive never played dcs so i can’t say anything about that but that sucks. i’ve never had any sort of problems and i play all sorts of games including cyberpunk so it must just be a select handful.
PinchCactus@reddit
I made a quick video a while ago showing vram usage in dcs multiplayer, but the behaviour is shown on the performance overlay here youtube dot com /watch?v=FONsJTcY_Fc
FatBoyStew@reddit
But is that also accompanied with a spike in CPU usage?
PinchCactus@reddit
Yes. That's why the frame rate and GPU usage drop.
FatBoyStew@reddit
That's not always the case though, especially on powerful cards which is why I asked. Sometimes its related various other reasons.
ensignlee@reddit
Which games? I'm about to rock a similar setup (upgrading from 3700x to 5800x3d today)
PrettyQuick@reddit
You managed to get a 5800x3d today ?
ensignlee@reddit
Got it from /r/hardwareswap, so it's used, but ya.
PinchCactus@reddit
Dcs, stalker, I remember another user saying rdr2, but I haven't played it on this GPU. It isn't the end of the world but it's worth noting so you aren't surprised by occasional usage drops. The 5800x3d is a beast chip, but it's still am4. I have no regrets buying my 7900xtx to pair with it. I upgraded from a 3600x, you will be very happy with that upgrade.
micaelmiks@reddit
well my 9800x3d bottlenecks the 5090 in some cases in stalker at 4k. One thing is a game optimization, other having a real bottleneck. He will be fine for a 5080.
earsofdarkness@reddit
Contrary to what some may say, it's not a simple yes or no. For some titles, you'll be GPU limited and the CPU will keep up just fine. In others, a great example is Hogwarts Legacy, you'll notice CPU bottlenecks when trying to run Ultra RT as these newer, heavier implementations put more load onto the CPU even in GPU limited scenarios. Furthermore, with newer CPUs you get access to faster RAM which can also affect performance.
bunter1030@reddit
i still don’t think thered be a noticeable if any bottleneck at 1440p with that config tbh. especially if you just cap frames to like 120 in hogwarts because at max settings you’d probably pull a good bit more than that. and 32gb of 3600mhz ram should honestly be plenty to keep the cpu from being a bottleneck in the first place.
NewestAccount2023@reddit
You can decide later. Put your GPU into the system and pay games. Any time your GPU is not at 97-99% that's because the CPU can't feed it fast enough.
phannguyenduyhung@reddit
So does that mean GPU is supposed to run at full load 97 - 100% all the time no matter the game? thank you
NewestAccount2023@reddit
For graphical games yes. Using vsync or a frame cap will lower GPU usage if you were getting higher fps than the refresh rate or the frame cap. Nvidia reflex will push it down a percent as a consequence of keeping input lag as low as possible. But otherwise the GPU will go either as fast as it can (99%), or it will go as fast as the CPU lets it.
If you want the lowest input lag in games you actually want to keep the GPU usage BELOW 97%, going above that causes the GPU to get behind the CPU by multiple frames which increases input lag. This is really only relevant in competitive games.
phannguyenduyhung@reddit
Im using asus rog 3080 with i5 11400f.
I plan to upgrade to i5 14600k + new motherboard first and then 5070 ti or something at the end of the year. Do you think its a good decision? Thank you
NewestAccount2023@reddit
If you use the computer mostly for gaming then any AMD 3d chip will be much faster than a 14600: 9800x3d, 7800x3d, 7600x3d. I like the plan otherwise. r/BuildAPc, r/BuildAPcForMe can help spec out parts
phannguyenduyhung@reddit
I mostly do gaming but also some video editing on premier pro too. Is intel quicksync worth it more than AMD cpu?
bunter1030@reddit
i would say its not worth it no. i do graphic and motion design on an AMD x3d cpu and have 0 issues
NewestAccount2023@reddit
I don't know much about video editing. Imo if you render one video a week then there's no need for a multicore beast. If you are rendering multiple times a week AND saving 20 minutes means a lot then Intel probably worth it. If you game for 20 hours and do video stuff for 2 hours it's not worth it. Also if you game for 20 hours and do video editor stuff for 10 hours then click "render" and go to bed or go make dinner then still go AMD. In the editor both processors show no real difference, the difference comes when you render where 30 minutes he ones 20 if you have more cores, but if your coming dinner that 10 minutes doesn't matter.
bunter1030@reddit
it sort of depends still. i personally just cap my graphical games to 120fps so im normally seeing more like 70-85%. I think its much better to just cap fps a bit lower than your average so you can have a consistent number and take a little load off your pc in general
Large-Television-238@reddit
may i ask which software to install to let me live checking out the GPU usage ?
Real-Psyduck@reddit
Msi afterburner is the most popular I think, and there’s a lot of guides on yt, so it’s easy to set up
Sallo10@reddit
Me with a 5950x and 7900xtx combo with 70% gpu usage….. 😂 but none of the games I play currently need the extra performance anyways
NewestAccount2023@reddit
You can raise graphics settings with minimal impact on fps in that case
Sallo10@reddit
Oh I still play everything maxed and I get decent frames (180 ish at 1440p) but I’m also playing like 10 year old games atm, finally finishing up the backlogs
I figure once I start playing the new stuff like FF7 rebirth I’m going to have issues.
OGigachaod@reddit
Or you get micro-stutters, those are always fun.
theoneandonlyShrek6@reddit
Please put a trigger warning next time! you almost gave me a heart attack with that word.
CounterSYNK@reddit
The 5080 is just a 4080 super with 10% more performances (if that). It’ll be fine.
drum_devil@reddit
Might aswell go 4k to put less load on the cpu. It's fine for now but it would be the next upgrade for sure, and I'd be looking around soon as I can. Unless you have 16gb ram id het 32gb ram than the cpu
drum_devil@reddit
I lied. Get the 32 go ram with the new cpu cause you'll need doffremt ram anyways
unitcodes@reddit
a looking to upgrade from rx570 to 3000s or 4000s and have the 5700x3d or 5800x3d, and you’ve asked this it felt like we were together hunting and upgrading…
zachwilson541@reddit
I run a 5600x with 7800xt and that’s plenty for 1440p, I’m sure you’ll be fine
soops22@reddit
Yes.
micaelmiks@reddit
hey if it works good with a 4090.... and thats a better card than a 5080 =)
Ozok123@reddit
But Jensen said 5070=4090 😔
Professional-Jelly39@reddit
It most likely is not, sadly enough
micaelmiks@reddit
You just believed when NVIDIA when they said 5070>4090?
For real mate?
Professional-Jelly39@reddit
Calm down 😂
_bisquickpancakes@reddit
5080 is barely faster than a 4080 super, 4090 is quite a bit faster than the 4080, it stomps the 5080 and it's not even close.
Professional-Jelly39@reddit
I can't read, I thought he was saying 5080 is better xD
Active-Quarter-4197@reddit
oc to oc the 5080 and 4090 are somewhat close
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIUGpX6KsnU&t=699s
PizdaPulaSupraCaca@reddit
It most likely is
MrPreApocalypse@reddit
Yes it is lmao
thebootlick@reddit
Where’d you see that? 4090 has a 10-15% higher raw raster. And 8 more gb of vram. That’s why one is an 80 and one is a 90.
LLuk333@reddit
Well my 5800X3D can pump out 250fps in all games I play with my 4080 so I suppose it should be somewhat ok. Maybe a small enough bottleneck that it won’t warrant an upgrade but you can never be sure it just depends on the games you play.
RoawrOnMeRengar@reddit
It still performs better than Zen5 non X3D amd cpu in most games and is usually on par with the i7 14700k and i9 14900k, so you'll be fine.
TimNiklas@reddit
Hi there, I have a 98003d with an rtx 5080 now.
It depends on what hz/framerate you wanna play.
480hz? maybe it could help a little....
but not, that it's worth going full upgrade to AM5 platform!
But I notice, that my 9800x3d is still bottlnecked by the 5080. point.
120fps helldivers ultra settings? 60% cpu utilization.
i only have 144hz monitor, so there is no point in trying to get 200fps.
dankmemelawrd@reddit
Idk man, but that's such a bad combo
AdrianWr@reddit
Ohhh, you are the one from that post that has intel pentium + mx230! That combo is amazing man
Limpperi@reddit
wdym? 5080 is great for 1440p and 5800x3d is still plenty fast
xxNATHANUKxx@reddit
Really isn’t bad at all
yhtomitn64@reddit
I have a 5090 with i5-12000 something or other lol. I think i need cpu upgrade lol
Arisa_kokkoro@reddit
not on cpu sensitive game.
GloriousKev@reddit
I can't imagine it being an issue
SamuelL421@reddit
Yes.
Ganjaholics@reddit
I’m on am4 with 5800x3d and the 7900xtx and 99% of the time, even playing cyberpunk etc, I might see 65% CPU usage. That 16gb card will in no way be bottlenecked by your 5800x3d.
I’ve tried to make the same argument for myself to spend $750 on a 9800x3d and am5 platform but the gains just aren’t there for me. I’m on a Samsung G6 1440p 240hz monitor and able to play literally about any game that isn’t known to be poorly-optimized at well over 120+fps. Most games the monitor is maxed.
Don’t let FOMO get the best of you, to then end up with buyers remorse. I’ve been tempted since it came out but after watching all the reviews for everything I just can’t justify that money. If you can, all the more power to you, I hope the gains, however significant they are, make you happy!
KirillNek0@reddit
Should be fine - but I would be looking at 5070/Ti.
Any-Literature-7834@reddit
5800x3d might be a few generations old, but its still one of the best cpus.
Solace-@reddit
If you’re planning on using DLSS then yes, actually. The thing is you’ll already be at a high enough fps for it to not really matter
Drchomo-47@reddit
9800x3d and RTX 5080 will be my setup. I run 3440x1440. GPU arrives Wednesday.
Parsec207@reddit
Yes, absolutely.
laffer1@reddit
You might want to wait on the 50 series until this is explained
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-5090d-gpus-getting-bricked-possibly-driver-bios-pcie-issues/amp/
edjxxxxx@reddit
I’m gonna laugh my ass off if this just turns out that they have Fast Boot enabled.
TheFrzAlchemist@reddit
I'm ignorant and have no idea why fast boot would brick a gpu please ELI5.
technodabble@reddit
Fast boot skips certain initialization steps in the boot process to, well, boot faster. I'm guessing they think it's possible that certain motherboards might not recognize these newer GPU's without going through the full boot process.
To be clear though, none of these cards would actually be "bricked" if that's what's causing the issue.
edjxxxxx@reddit
Of course they wouldn’t be “bricked,” but how often do people mess something up in their setup and then jump to the wildest possible conclusions.
foggiermeadows@reddit
I play at 5120x1440 with 60-120fps depending on the game with a 3080 and a 5700x3D, it's plenty.
skellyhuesos@reddit
You can get a 4080 super and get the same performance
EppingMarky@reddit
60 or 144 or 600hz?!
CpuPusher@reddit
You should be good at 1440p, i just sold mine this weekend along with ram and motherboard.
Verme@reddit
I played Scully cranked @1440p with a 5800X3D and a 6800xt. Your setup should be np.
xhale01@reddit
nope
BasicGoose@reddit
I’m seeing about 76% usage on my 5800X3D paired with my 5080 on Battlefield 2042 at 1440P.
I think I noticed about 55% usage with my 3080Ti if I remember right.
Last_Jedi@reddit
At 1440p you WILL start to see bottlenecking with an RTX 5080 + 5800X3D, but it depends on the game. Newer RT-heavy games will see a minimal difference.
But if you take something like Elden Ring, there is a 33 fps difference between the 5800X3D and 9800X3D with a 4090 (I'd expect a similar, maybe slightly smaller difference with the 5080).
And again, in Baldur's Gate 3, there is about 40 fps difference.
Daeid_D3@reddit
Once you get to those kind of numbers, the bottleneck will often end up being the monitor!
AMSolar@reddit
5800x3D is enough for RTX 12800 5 years from now lol
People are playing just fine on 8700k with 3080 and zero issues
5800X3D is on a whole other level
Rx_Boost@reddit
I play 1440 with the 5800x3d and a 3070ti lol. 165hz monitor so I cap my fps at 165.
nkz15@reddit
It is just a 4080 ti super, so it will work
ecktt@reddit
So far, yes.
Soul-Demon-ZApex@reddit
You'll even get bottlenecked with 9800X3D on certain Scenarios on many games
Just see if the game you play is more CPU or GPU Limited in most scenarios
This is a great Vid imo https://youtu.be/6QGnTlGUFn0?si=5nPUwtwZOLi_JE8t
Ecstatic_Job_3467@reddit
Yes.
Professional-Jelly39@reddit
In some titles at this res you might lose few frames. Is it worth the upgrade? I'd say not
Azatis-@reddit
WE playing cross-gen games still like 95% of the time so yes
abstractedBliss@reddit
I'm planning to with the 5700x3D, you'll be fine. Bottleneck is more noticeable at 1080p.
bifowww@reddit
5800X3D is as fast as entry AM5 builds with 7600X so you are fine for the next few years.
BluDYT@reddit
It's basically on par with the 9700x on games so you'd likely be fine 99% of the time.
donut4ever21@reddit
That CPU is a beast. You'll be fine.
Ghostrider215@reddit
I mean if you’ve got the means to upgrade CPU as well then I’d go for it. You’ll appreciate the extra processing power
EmanuelPellizzaro@reddit
Dude, I paired a 12400F with a 7900 XT for 4K, and it's more than fast enough, the haviest games uses 50% in 4K 60, so in theory, could run 120FPS 4K.
itchygentleman@reddit
I am a simple man. I see the word bottleneck and I downvote 👍
sawb11152@reddit
Currently running a 5800x3D with 4080 super at 4k, it's still working wonderfully. I don't plan on upgrading for a while.
Chinpokkomon@reddit
5800x3d / 4060ti / 32gb / 1440p
you gonna be well fine cuz i run anything well on1440p
flgtmtft@reddit
Do you only want 60fps? Then yes, but if you want to push the graphics and play with RT then no maybe 120fps or more you need a better CPU
ScornedSloth@reddit
I am sure it will be fine. Why not buy the GPU and just enjoy it. Imo, it would be a waste of money unless the performance isn't acceptable to you after the fact. You're talking about a $600+ minimum cost to upgrade from a 5800x3d since you would need a new motherboard and ram as well. I think it will be fine with the 5800x3d.
sillybonobo@reddit
It depends on your preferences and monitor. The 5800x3d is still a very well performing card, outperforming many mid-high range chips from this gen.
It's not as fast as a 9800x3D, but it's no slouch either. For instance running 1% lows of 170 in cyberpunk 1080p. It's around 80% a 9800x3d at 1080p According to Tom's Hardware.
That means you will probably have issues running high frame rate low visual fidelity games. If you want to max out Counter-Strike then you probably would see a lot of benefit. But if you're playing graphically intensive games on a 144 or 175 Hertz monitor, you're probably golden.
It's actually my combo right now on a 175hz 1440P ultra wide. I could probably eek out another 25-30% of frames in some games if I adjusted my settings properly, but the cost for those frames in some games just aren't worth it.
Mr_SlimShady@reddit
Try this https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=5800x3d+5080
ChrisParty@reddit (OP)
Already tried no comparison found yet with 5800x3d
Vidimo_se@reddit
It'll be fine