[Handgun] Zenith ZF5-K Essentials Package - $1000 + ship (No tax in NC, maybe some)

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Winnah9000@reddit (OP)

I'm not Zenith, just sharing. No threaded barrel/tri-lug sadly, but if you don't plan to suppress, it's a good deal on a Zenith product (you can get the Century AP5-M cheaper usually).

If you want to be super safe, you need:

AR-15 FCG MP5 lower - Polymer Pew or SkoPrints sell them. Lee Sporting is less recommended due to the FCG location.

AR-15 FCG + Super Safety - AS Designs, DeezNutzTactical, Grey Market Research, etc. sell SS.

MP5 SS Slip Trip - Polymer Pew, SkoPrints, and a few others sell them. DO NOT use the old V1 heavy metal trips, make sure it's a V2 or V3 trip if it's metal.

Modified ejector lever - My recommendation is to get the jig (or print it yourself) and cut the original one. Buying pre-modified ones is very overpriced for how simple the mod is.

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I've been wanting to get an SP5 just to throw a super safety in there but just a little worried about some dick head cop causing me problems. Is this even something to worry about or yall think I'm just being dramatic?

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Winnah9000@reddit (OP)

I mean, it's certainly possible. I haven't experienced anything like that and had a variety of cops buy super safeties, lol. I would just educate yourself on how to explain the basic function so that they understand there is one round fired per action of the trigger, regardless of fire rate.

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BENboBEN@reddit

Curious. Why should we not use the old style trips?

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Winnah9000@reddit (OP)

The V1 trips were not designed to be made in metal so when they are they're far too heavy and will snap the SS lever.

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teflon16@reddit

Why are the Lee sporting ones bad? I’ve been eyeing one

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nope_noway_@reddit

Mine were a nightmare. I highly suggest to wait 2 months or so for the Leber V2 lower to release

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Winnah9000@reddit (OP)

They move the FCG 3mm and that makes it less friendly to the super safety. Plenty of people have success, but plenty of people don't.

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PartialFed@reddit

Thanks for this, I was also looking at Lee Sporting. Of the other 2, what’s your opinion on them?

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Winnah9000@reddit (OP)

I use both, they're both good. Polymer Pew isn't as behind on orders though, so that's my current choice.

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AC130aboveGetDown@reddit

The real ~~deal~~ advice is in the comments

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NFA_Cessna_LS3@reddit

Mac is associated with century right?

Zenith was made in turkey and now made in the us and it's closer to ptr than it is to Mac right?

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yourmommaisaho@reddit

ATI/Zenith - first importers of MKE MP5 firearms Century -current importer of MKE SDS - importer of MAC branded Mertsav MSG-9 made in Turkey Zenith and PTR - US produced MP5 clones

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NFA_Cessna_LS3@reddit

Zenith and PTR are using the old HK milling right, I know at least PTR is.

Are Zeniths out of the box as reliable at PTRs or is Zenith closer to Century?

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yourmommaisaho@reddit

PTRs were reverse engineered from what I remember. That is why a lot of parts have to be fitted or are PTR specific. They seem to be a solid company with decent product but they are their own gig. No licensing from HK.

Zenith were given(or stole, I forget the details) the TDPs from someone at MKE on a few firearms and ended up completely copying everything. It's all new production and to HK original specs, but they are still learning how to produce these items that other companies have perfected over the last 40 years or so.

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sputsputputput@reddit

A friend of mine got a Zenith last year and had tons of issues with feeding. He ended up selling it.

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ReclaimUr4skin@reddit

If I was told correctly, Zenith’s state side tooling is new production

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IXVanity@reddit

I'll preface this with YMMV, you could get an absolute RUNNER.

Zenith has had huge QC issues in the last 2-3 years which has impacted their 9mm and the newer 556 variants. Two of my LGS have had ZF5s in stock that all have piss poor welds, receivers that look warped and blem-esque marks in the finish.

I'd recommend also watching some of the more recent videos to see what issues have plagued the most recent production (since I'm unsure of how long those ZF5s have been on the shelf) but Joel Park did a video talking about some similar experiences he had.

That said, I'd probably buy a Century/MAC5 at this price before this. $1000 for 1 mag, no trilug/threaded barrel and a $5 soft case?

I think gone are the days of these being a "Decent" turk import and now they're mostly floating the name.

Joel's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2EoImu5D9w

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2MGR@reddit

I think gone are the days of these being a "Decent" turk import and now they're mostly floating the name.

I believe these are now American made.

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mmiski@reddit

K Essentials Package

If this doesn't also come with a Potassium tablet I'll be disappointed.

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