557 years since Skanderbeg death today
Posted by big_cat112@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 99 comments
Posted by big_cat112@reddit | AskBalkans | View on Reddit | 99 comments
Fun_Deer_6850@reddit
He was one of our honourable enemies. I respect him.
bluegreen_10@reddit
Why is he considered Albania's national hero?
html_lmth@reddit
People downvoting a legit question in a sub which is called "AskBalkan". Well done everyone.
PrettyInfluence3594@reddit
The same reason why every balkan country has a mediaval noble as national hero... National pride boost.
SnooBunnies9198@reddit
defended albania for 25 years against the prime ottoman empire with a smaller army compared to the O.E army. He also didnt forget about his albanian roots.
garantc0met@reddit
He managed to unify many of the then lone reigning albanian principalities under one league to fight of the ottoman invasion successfully for 25 years long until his death. He is a symbol of albanian unity and perseverance. Also he had a cool helmet which you can actually visit in Vienna along with his sword.
Taxamataxalasa@reddit
I have read about him, interesting character, I think in the end the other noble families betray him or not?
TheWonderer011@reddit
Gjergj (Đurađ) Kastriot Skenderbeg! The LEGEND!
Traditional_Eagle554@reddit
Ah, another genius claiming a historical figure because making something of their own is just too hard. Nothing says 'original' like borrowed greatness. Why are a lot of Serbs like this?
hopopo@reddit
Serbo-Albanian here. Albanians are no better.
My Albanian aunt said that Djokovic is actually Albanian Djokaj.
harvestt77@reddit
If your aunt said it..that's it 😁
Ambitious-Impress549@reddit
That’s crazy. Djokovic is completely anti-Albanian and anti-Kosovo statehood so he’s obviously not Albanian lmao and we Albanians know that and make it clear that he is not part of us lmao
TheWonderer011@reddit
It's still amazing how you guys get so triggered by this. And claiming "we don't have any of our own", well for example there's this anonymous guy we made up in our heads, he called Tesla.
olivenoel3@reddit
Still waiting on those sources that officially confirm his serbianess
TheWonderer011@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwVRTgtsvIE&t=138s
Traditional_Eagle554@reddit
That's their sources of history lol. Pathetic. I shouldn't have wasted my time talking to you.
olivenoel3@reddit
Confirmed sources mean academic papers by reputed historians not youtube videos!
Traditional_Eagle554@reddit
You can celebrate Tesla in a post dedicated to him. However, you cannot come here and attempt to claim Albanian figures or cities. Stop believing in the fairy tales propagated by your so-called historians. You sound like a boomer on Facebook.
TheWonderer011@reddit
Voislava, Mitrovica, Orahovac, Suva Reka, Đakovica, Kosovo are all albanian words and names with albanian meaning. So sure thing man. We wont claim (share)....your stuff.
olivenoel3@reddit
He only went by Gjergj, don't give people the wrong idea...
TheWonderer011@reddit
Wrong idea?
olivenoel3@reddit
Yes, but no need to use the slavic version when referring to albanian stuff!
TheWonderer011@reddit
Ofc there's no need for those of albanian nationality, for Serbs and others it's perfectly fine. Especially if it considers stuff shared by both, such as cities and national herose.
olivenoel3@reddit
Nationality is a modern concept. You can't apply it to historical figures! We don't share any national heroes with serbs!
TheWonderer011@reddit
Sure thing bro, as long as you're happy. Cheers!
olivenoel3@reddit
I am pretty ok with the facts! I don't feed on propaganda.
TheWonderer011@reddit
Facts are that these lands were and are inhabited by both albanian and slavic people. As such, both share many historical and modern figures and places.
Bad blood between the two is what causes these outbursts of rage in situations such as this.
olivenoel3@reddit
What historical and modern figures do we share?
TheWonderer011@reddit
For example Voisava Kastriot and her son Skenderbeg.
olivenoel3@reddit
Based on what confirmed source? Theories don't constitute a fact!
TheWonderer011@reddit
Look man, i'm not here to have a historical debate. Whoever is interested and google it and find out.
If you wanna push your agenda then go on, be my guest.
olivenoel3@reddit
I simply asked for a confirmed source, since you made the claim? If you don't have it, then you are the one trying to push an agenda here based on pseudohistory!
Ambitious-Impress549@reddit
Leji vlla keta vorra se kta mundohen me na marr heronjet tonë sepse te ashtuquajtur heronjet e tyre krejt jan kriminel dhe njerz qe vetem kan vras popullit ballkanik keshtu qe mos jep as 5 pare (qysh thojm ne shqiptart ne kosove) per qka thojn keta vk
Used-Orchid561@reddit
You are so mentally challenged trying to debate this person but ignoring my requests for a source yet asking one from this guy. Alb behavior
Ambitious-Impress549@reddit
Diaspora checks out
Used-Orchid561@reddit
Leave him, he doesn’t want to debate and doesn’t have one source, there isn’t a source in the world from the time of Skanderbeg that the Albanian language existed or that Skanderbeg was an ethnic Albanian.
rydolf_shabe@reddit
no ones writing shit like that i.e actual name and name of that same thing in my language
Used-Orchid561@reddit
He didn’t go by Gjergj, I would challenge you to it by asking you to state one primary source of his time stating his name in Albanian or that is name is Gjergj.
Traditional_Eagle554@reddit
He held the title Dominus Albaniae and Prince of Epirus. Can't believe you're this stupid. You're humiliating your brigade of trolls.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Albania "Also known as: George Castriota, George Kastrioti, Gjergj Kastrioti, Iskander"
TracknTrace85@reddit
albanians strong on internet, next they will take Ivo Andric
Used-Orchid561@reddit
I already heard Nikolla Tesliqi and Novak Xhokoviq coming up, next they will claim Gjesus Hristiqi, Sokratës and Saint Kirilë and Saint Metodijë
TracknTrace85@reddit
Yep, they spam on internet websites, like bots all kind of nonsense . And ofc, they are not in albania,they somewhere in germany italy and so on
olivenoel3@reddit
You can't challenge others if you are mentally challenged yourself
Used-Orchid561@reddit
Such a good comeback, I want to remind you Skanderbegs whole family had Serbian names and all his ancestors including his father and grandfather are buried in Serbian Orthodox churches. There is not one source of him speaking Albanian, Serbian on the other hand….
olivenoel3@reddit
In 2025 I also have a greek name, despite being 100% albanian and us having bad blood with greeks! So?
Used-Orchid561@reddit
That’s fine you have a Greek name, do all your grandparents have one too? And are they all orthodox? If so, I need to tell you something, you’re probably not as Albanian as you think you are. A one off happens, but not for multiple generations of people. Also, why would all his brothers and sisters have Serbian names? Staniša, Jelena, Mamica, Angelina (could be Greek), Vlajka, Mara, Konstandin (Slavic adaptation of Konstantin). His brother Reposh served in an Serbian monastery, Hilandar. His sisters Mara’s children are named Ivan, Andrija and Božidar. Connected family Spanović (Spani) ruled for the Serbians and had Serbian names.
olivenoel3@reddit
Do you really think you can come here and lecture me about my own origins? Take a hike and do something productive with your life instead of trying to prove your pseudohistory here!
Used-Orchid561@reddit
Albanian tactics, I hear this literally every time. “You come to lecture me about my own origins?”, yes, yes I do since you apparently don’t know. I again challenge you to provide 1 source proving Skanderbeg is Albanian, or that he has Albanian ancestry. Still didn’t get one, and no Albanian has given it to me since it doesn’t exist. Have a nice day, and I would advice you to dive a bit deeper into history and embrace your Greek roots
olivenoel3@reddit
What an hopeless case 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
Traditional_Eagle554@reddit
Religion ≠ Ethnicity You can’t go around exposing your ignorance like that, it’s unsettling. Not all of them had Orthodox names, and even if some did, you don’t own the Orthodox religion or have the exclusive right to use Christian names. Let me remind you that Albanians were fully Christian at the time. Maybe you will sleep less stupid after learning this.
Used-Orchid561@reddit
Very dumb answer, if you research you see that the jurisdiction of the region Skanderbeg was from belonged to the Bulgarian church at that time, yet he and his whole family were buried in Serbian churches and had Serbian names. There is also a difference between Christian names, some are Slavic Christian names and some are Greek (and there is more obviously). We only see Serbian names here, not Bulgarian Slavic adaptations and no Greek, with 1 exception. Now I have you homework to study Orthodox Church history so you can trace back your ancestry, good luck with it 👍🏼
Constant-Tip-2732@reddit
anxhelasweet@reddit
Where was this pic taken?
TheWonderer011@reddit
In Priština, main sqaure.
rydolf_shabe@reddit
shouldve written it Prishtina (Priština) by ur logic
TheWonderer011@reddit
Given we use English here, you're right. But since English wikipedia uses Pristina, i guess its ok.
rydolf_shabe@reddit
and in wikipedia its Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg, no Durad there
TheWonderer011@reddit
It's always weird how you guys get triggered by these kinds of stuff. Imagine the amount of rage i would receive if i only used serbian version of his name.
rydolf_shabe@reddit
i only telling you to apply your own logic, its pretty clear your were trying to rage bait
No-Example-5107@reddit
Pristina.
SnooPoems4127@reddit
Best helmet ever!
PrettyInfluence3594@reddit
Ihezus Nazarenus * Principi Emathie * Regi Albaniae * Terrori Osmanorum * Regi Epirotarum * Benedictat Te, * IN * PE * RA * TO * RE * BT Pope and Ferndinand of Arragorn were glazing him.
shortEverything_@reddit
Is emathie another term for Macedonia?
SnooPoems4127@reddit
cool
No-Example-5107@reddit
Yes!
S-onceto@reddit
Bro that's a goat this whole time?
😭
VintageRecord420@reddit
Thank you!!! And your people are the best rapists ever !!! Thank you for denying/never apologising!!
hopopo@reddit
In that honor here is the Russian movie from 1953 called "The Great Warrior Skanderbeg"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1na6ljb48P8
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
We did it!
olivenoel3@reddit
You couldn't do shit against him
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
🤣he was hiding in mountain ranges and focused on gerilla warfare, all he does hit and run, but who cares since we possessed Albanian cities
olivenoel3@reddit
The important thing is you could never even touch his hair when he was alive... stay mad
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
🤣sure, if he had that much power then why he was hiding all the time? Why he did not marched on Constantinople ? all he does just hit and run while we dominate your land
olivenoel3@reddit
Because he only cared about defending his lands from the enemy, he wasn't an usurper like the ottomans
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
Sure😆, he was limited and small which has no greater power, so that's why he just hit and run, otherwise he would try to build an Albanian empire
olivenoel3@reddit
Can you get any more pathetic?
Elegant-Spinach-7760@reddit
What is so great on winning against a power 100 times smaller than yours?
HawkKhan@reddit
it's great because he's product of ottoman military doctrine, the story would be different if he was a local noble or trained by hungary that prefer heavy cavalry. because the battle would be short and in ottoman favor
SnooPoems4127@reddit
did what
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
Execution☠️
SnooBunnies9198@reddit
he died of natural causes at 44 years old
No-Example-5107@reddit
He died at 62, likely from malaria.
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
I guess I confused with Dracula
SnooPoems4127@reddit
hmm i dont think so but whatever floats your boat...
Only-Dimension-4424@reddit
Maybe I confused with Dracula
DabawenyoBata9008@reddit
Heroj!!!
Cool-Acanthaceae8968@reddit
Here he is in his square.
Poopoo_Chemoo@reddit
Amazing dude, wish he had more support
aXeOptic@reddit
Kinda makes you think what would the balkans look like if that one pope didnt suddenly die.
Amogustaj@reddit
can i get some lore behind this?
aXeOptic@reddit
In 1463 pope Pius the second started to organize a crusade against the ottomans and invited all christian nobility throughout europe, the venetians immediately accepted and so did Skanderbeg. And in 27 of november 1463 Skanderbeg attacked the ottomans but the pope died soon after and couldnt organize that crusade and when the next pope took his place he didnt try to organize it so it never happened.
Amogustaj@reddit
ooooh, never chould i connect that ur talkin bout crusades. Thanks tho for detailed response
Poopoo_Chemoo@reddit
Bro i can guarantee Europe would have been a far welthier continent
BringBackSocom1938@reddit
Tough son of a b**** i gotta admit, we created a monster.
CoolieGenius@reddit
Ottoman - greatest beast generator machine of the time. (Remember Vlad III. was raised in Ottoman palace along with Mehmed II.)
lunapuj@reddit
As his brother Radu who he fought directly, as the head of the Jannisary.
It's a story when Vlad attacked Giurgiu fortress he disguised himself as an ottoman nobility and when he spoke with the guards he was speaking a turkish with nobility accent and the guards really thought he is some nobility and they opened the gates, thats how he conquered the fortress.
Snoo-42876@reddit
didnt plan on drinking tonight, but we lost a real one on this day 🫡
AdditionalCommittee3@reddit
Very good cognac indeed !
olivenoel3@reddit
He isn't dead he lives in our hearts....