Can I run?
Posted by Forward-Taste8956@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 39 comments
Posted by Forward-Taste8956@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 39 comments
Fit_Hospital2423@reddit
Pretty retarded trucker thread that people are being told that they can’t be over 12,000 pounds on their steer axle.
LonleyWolf420@reddit
It's because most/if not all trucks are rated at 12,500
csimonson@reddit
Not all, but a lot.
LonleyWolf420@reddit
"Most" = "a lot , but not all"
csimonson@reddit
Yeah, but you said most/IF NOT ALL.
LonleyWolf420@reddit
The phrase is 'most, IF not all'. It means 'almost all, maybe all'
Got me in my wording lol
LockportTrans@reddit
In 20 yrs I've never owned a truck that scaled less than 12,500 on the steers. A couple that always pulled closer to 13,000. Granted most had a generator on the rail. But I've never been cited. Even remarked maybe twice
No-Cauliflower2367@reddit
Slide your fifth wheel back two holes each hole is 500 lbs you have plenty of room to do so looking at your drive and tandem axel weight!!!
The_Richuation@reddit
Depends on where you are/going and the rating on your truck's steers
Forward-Taste8956@reddit (OP)
Going to Hermiston Oregon from Chicago
viertes@reddit
Seriously doubt it, West Illinois will pull you over and assume you're going through Indiana and hold you till you slide that 5th wheel up some. It's not 2k though so a ticket isn't mandatory until he's having a bad day.
Fatguy503@reddit
Sliding the fifth wheel up puts more weight on the steer
Green_Cut_6492@reddit
He's gonna have a bad day
viertes@reddit
Oh yea, Illinois and Indiana are notoriously booty sticklers about a couple pounds here and there. But the steer tires do worry me as a trucker since those babies don't have a backup and with the temps right now, hitting a black ice patch. The temp difference can absolutely pop a stressed tire.
Move that 5th wheel or dump the lot lizard
Virel_360@reddit
Here I am with over 13k on my steers and I’ve never once in almost 10 years Had a problem at a scale house and I’ve been through some fucking scales.
ZombieMurker95@reddit
Fuck it
Waisted-Desert@reddit
I'm guessing you're worried about your steer axle. The lowest maximum steer axle weight on your route is 600lbs/in of tire width. Your tires are likely 11in wide, so as long as you're under 13,200lbs on your steer and your truck is rated for less, you're fine. Most states are higher than that.
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/policy/rpt_congress/truck_sw_laws/index.htm
The_Richuation@reddit
You seem to know what you're talking about so I've got a follow up question.
Indiana says it's 34k for a tandem set, but underneath the chart it says they can't exceed 16k per axle in a group, with a limit of 32k per tandem. Wtf? Lol
Virtchoo@reddit
Ideally your tandem set should weigh the same, but if something is off with your airbags or whatever suspension your trailer has it can put more weight on the front axel or back axel.
There’s also the split axels. Most flatbeds have them, but I see some with tandems and I also see some of the van trailers with split axels. Those have always been owner ops though. They get 20k per axel
Safe_Fail_568@reddit
Sometimes, not always, when you see a tandem setup on a flatbed it’s because axle #4 slides by itself just like your tandem’s do on a dry van or reefer. Unless I’m pulling something lite like insulation I usually just keep them all the way spread.
Auquaholic@reddit
34000+ 34000 + 12000 = 80000. That is THE reason that you're taught 12000 for steers. If you're not maxed out on the rest, go off of your tire rating.
clapped-out-cammy@reddit
Michelin steers i have are rated for 13120.
The_Richuation@reddit
Ok well what I suggest you do is go into the truck stop you're at (I'm assuming with the cat scale) and open one of the road atlases. It'll have a chart in it with axle weight limits by state. See if any you're passing through have the hard 12k limit.
You also need to find out the rating on your truck/tires.
Example, mine is good for 13.2k but Indiana has a 12k limit on steers. If I'm not going through Indiana I don't have to worry about it but if I am, I have to keep an eye on that.
I only do regional stuff so I'm not much help for the weight limits state wide
Fit_Hospital2423@reddit
Where do you get the notion that Indiana is 12,000 on steer axle? There’s no state in the union that’s a 12,000 pound limit on a steer axle. Indiana is 20,000. Of course you have to have a axle that is rated for it and tires that are rated for it, but almost any axle or a set of tires on a modern truck is well over 12,000 pounds.
The_Richuation@reddit
All the information I've found says that. If you have information to the contrary I'd love to see it as it's a major pain in the ass for the 40 minutes we actually spend in Indiana
jgremlin_@reddit
This took about 1.5 seconds to google:
https://cowtownexpress.com/blog/legal-axle-weight-limits-for-trucks-heavy-haul-weight-limits-by-state
The_Richuation@reddit
Thank you. Not sure where I got the information originally but I remember having a hell of a time finding anything that wasn't a massive pdf of the entire laws. I'll check these out though
Dizzy-Hawk1516@reddit
Max Steer 12500 Drive 34k Trailer 34k No buts
You_A_Chump@reddit
Ride like the wind
SubstantialWonder409@reddit
You're probably fine but if you have to go through the Umatilla weigh station, you're fucked. They hate us and write a ticket for everything up there. I don't think you go through that, but just make sure.
Waisted-Desert@reddit
Why would the Umatilla scale bother him? Oregon allows 600lbs per inch of tread width with a max of 10,000 per tire (not to exceed manufacturer's max). Typical steers are 11in wide, so that's 13,200lbs for the steer axle.
https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_818.010
SubstantialWonder409@reddit
It's only because they're assholes there. Only scale I've ever had issues with.
Specialist-Ad8467@reddit
How do you not know? What size is the trailer ? Where are your tandems ?
SpecialistPrint4142@reddit
😂😂
COVFEFE-4U@reddit
Should be ok as long as your tires are rated for it. You also have plenty of room to move your 5th wheel aft a couple pegs too if you really wanted.
LordRaven74@reddit
Slide your fifth wheel back 2 holes (just to make sure). Most fifth wheel holes will shift 1,500 lbs per hole. But, unless you know what your truck will do, give a little extra. Also, do a reweigh.
taco-force@reddit
That steer axle might be a problem above 12k. Can you slide the fith wheel? Might be able to get it under that.
Western-Willow-9496@reddit
Is it a tandem axle tractor? What is you steer axle rating?
Snkrfiend_@reddit
Yes