What's it like living in a big city?
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I live in a rural town with >1000 people in the middle of Missouri and I want to know what it's like to live in a big city. Education, living, Healthcare, crime, whatever.
PsychoFaerie@reddit
I grew up in a small town (actually an island) and moved to Houston in 2011 (moved back in 2021 due to job loss from covid) and am heaving back to Houston in a few weeks.
I love it there's always things to do (including lots of free things) all the food options. tons of shopping... theatre music.. etc.. if you like it you can find it. and there's just a certain vibe to living in a city.
If I want to go do something I can.. its just there I don't have to drive very far or plan a trip.
In my hometown the island is dead by 10 pm at the latest except for bars.. a few gas stations and a waffle house.
I don't feel bored.. or stuck..in Houston There's a thriving music scene that isn't all cover bands... I can go see big acts without driving an hour or more. I can literally get almost anything I want and I don't have to order things on Amazon and wait for them to be delivered.
tee2green@reddit
Medium city is ideal. Has everything you need. But not unbearably crowded/inconvenient.
Bear_necessities96@reddit
You see I don’t know about that, medium tends to lack on industry diversity and entertainment too usually clubs closes between 12-2 am
tee2green@reddit
Honestly most big cities are quiet at night. LA is honestly dead at night except for a few blocks in WeHo or Venice.
NYC is a notable exception. Maybe 1-2 others.
Bear_necessities96@reddit
Yeah a big problem with the gentrifications happening since 90s was they destroyed the nightlife of a bunch of cities and local governments also did a good job is destroying it too making a bunch of new limitations and now we are in 2020s and cities realize how problematic is not having a vibrant nightlife in a major city area.
The exception for me are NYC, Miami and Chicago. LA has a few local spots where they open till late but they are underground
TheRealDudeMitch@reddit
That sounds like a problem that’s not actually a problem.
Bear_necessities96@reddit
Well, most young people don’t go out anymore and mental health problems are all time high also there’s a loneliness epidemic in the country so…
ThatCoupleYou@reddit
Here's the crazy thing about young people not Going Out anymore. I have noticed it, My wife and I are older. We're in our 50s and when we go out to the bar. We notice that the 20 somethings aren't there anymore. But there's a lot of people our age in the bars now. And the 20 somethings that are out, especially the women, are just as annoying as they can be. I'm generalizing here.But I see a lot of them making a little video of them dancing and then spending five minutes editing it and then making another little video.
CountChoculasGhost@reddit
I live in a big city. I very rarely am around crowds. I would say the ideal is a quieter area of a big city.
Puzzleheaded-Gas1710@reddit
My favorite size city I have lived in was about 600,000. The smaller cities didn't have the same opportunities and diversity.
To OP, living in the city is a lot like a small town. Each neighborhood or district is like its own smaller town. So, a lot of times, your life will center around your area of work or where you live. You can and do venture our for more choice but it's really not that different.
I_am_photo@reddit
Wholeheartedly agree. I've thought about moving to a bigger city but I like living in cities +/- 100,000 people and two to three hours away from a big city.
zeezle@reddit
I spent three miserable months living in a big city (one semester) and couldn't get out fast enough. I was originally from a smallish town of around 10k that was nearish a small city of ~100k, so I am not from a desolately rural area or anything, but certainly not a large urban area. I would not have chosen to go to a university in a city except I got a good scholarship through the chemistry department of that university, and initially I was excited about experiencing city life.
The only way I can describe it is that everything about living there just felt deeply wrong for me on every level.
Concrete everywhere. Constant, inescapable noise, 24/7. Just the sheer quantity of humans packed together like sardines was horrible and made my skin crawl constantly. I could never rest or get peace. The constant aura of threat and danger, people warning you not to go to this neighborhood or that. I grew up in the sort of place where you don't think about anything like that in terms of safety, people don't even bother to lock their doors and they aren't afraid of people they run into. The whole "keep your head on swivel" thing is just... not a thing where I'm from, people don't act like that.
Every aspect of daily life was somehow far more difficult and inconvenient, which was the biggest surprise. Everyone acts like cities are convenient but it definitely wasn't my experience at all. There's sort of a weird curve: for basic stuff, the city stores are smaller with a WAY worse selection because floor space is so much more precious... unless you are going to a specialty store where they sell stuff you can't get at a normal supermarket/retail type store. So if you're looking for something hyper-specific/special you can find it far more easily in the city, but basic everyday stuff is so much worse.
If you drive, traffic and parking is a nightmare; if you take some other route, you have to figure out how to get your stuff back to where you live. Many stores have everyday stuff like laundry detergent locked up behind glass which I'd never seen before. This was in the "good" part of the city, too. Despite things being physically closer together, it actually took way longer to do basically every task or chore in daily life, like picking up a prescription, grabbing groceries, whatever. There are just so many people all doing the same thing. I'd never had to wait in line to pick up a prescription before that!
I am not the sort of person who goes and hangs out at a coffee shop, I think it's a waste of money and I make my own at home. So for me being within walking distance of a coffee shop just means I'm not going there but still dealing with the noise/smells/hubbub living near one entails.
Public transit is wildly inconvenient, loud and unpleasant, but driving in that environment is even worse. It's not like driving around a normal town where you don't have traffic, don't have to pay for parking, can come and go as you please etc. at all.
It was exhausting and depressing. The constant noise and grime was the big thing. I had to transfer universities because I knew I'd never be able to tolerate that environment long enough to finish my degree.
Of course there are some aspects of large cities that are cool - availability of different restaurants, museums, large-scale city parks, events, etc. But those are things I don't want to do daily, so living in misery day to day just to be close to a museum I go to twice a year doesn't make any sense at all for me.
I now live in more of a suburban/exurban environment in a nice small township that's close enough to a city for all the conveniences with none of the drawbacks. I will absolutely never live in a large city ever again.
ThatCoupleYou@reddit
So im from a rural town in northern Arkansas. So its probably not much different than where your from. I moved to Memphis TN 20 years ago. And I love it. I know memphis gets a bad rap because he's got the worst crime in the nation. But if you know where not to go you'll be absolutely fine. What I love about the city and hate about going to my hometown is that there is always something to do in the city and a lot of times it's free. So like where you live if you go out and it's not hunting or fishing it's probably to some store restaurant that's going to cost you money. Here are Memphis and other big cities.Your entertainment expenses are actually cheaper.Because we have a lot of third space as we can go to and hang out.
Another benefit is the medical care.I had to have an mri done.There were three mri machines within a mile of my house.
It's a lot of rural transplants that I know who moved to the big city have a very hard time moving back to the country.
And look, I live in Memphis acknowledge.It's a s*** hole but if I love it.Imagine what it would be like living in a nicer city.
Arleare13@reddit
I love it. I love having all sorts of restaurants, shows, parks, museums, etc. just minutes away, I love being able to get wherever I want to go just by walking or taking the subway, and I love how there are always things happening.
It's certainly not right for everyone, of course, and that's fine. Cities are better for some people, and worse for others. It's nice to have the option of having different types of places to live. (And as for your question about crime, that's not something I really worry about -- the media loves to exaggerate how much crime happens here; this is generally an extremely safe city, and crime is not a day-to-day fear for me.)
autisticbtw@reddit (OP)
Having everything near you would be nice. My town has 1 small restaurant, a gas station, and a dollar general. If I want anything else, I have to drive at least 20 min to the nearest city.
Equal-Membership1664@reddit
Taking the 'risk' to move to a big city when you are young and live in the middle of nowhere, with no friends that have done it to work through it with, is scary AF. But you should absolutely do it if it wouldn't straight kill you. Start small, save up for a solo 3-day visit to get your first feel. Take twice as much money as you think you'll need, get your lodging secured ahead of time, and have the time of your fucking life
TheRealDudeMitch@reddit
Having a DG, gas station, AND a restaurant? That makes yall a whole ass society!
firerosearien@reddit
I lived in NYC for years. The cultural opportunities as a young adult were amazing, and I was able to try all sorts of activities and hobbies before finding one I really liked.
That said, COVID in an apartment was hard and eventually my husband and I just wanted space, quiet, and animals.
I wouldn't trade my time in NYC for anything, but as I grow older I find my wants and needs change.
I dont have kids but NYC public schools are...a clusterfuck. Competition to get into feeder preschools and elementary schools is as intense as college applications
padeca07@reddit
My friend asked Jamie Dimon for a rec for his kid's preschool... then they added the lottery system which made everything worse for the public schools.
GreenSpace57@reddit
I heard stories about letters of rec from the Columbia Teachers College preschool
DannyC2699@reddit
i’ve felt more unsafe walking down unlit streets in my boring ass rural/suburban hometown than walking around NYC at night. never feared for my life in the city before
bloodectomy@reddit
It is super convenient because everything is available
It's also a pain in the ass sometimes though. We sit in traffic a lot.
old_gold_mountain@reddit
Pick the right city and you'll never have to sit in traffic though thanks to the miracle of public transportation and bicycles
bloodectomy@reddit
I'm just going to say it
Public transportation is beneath me.
I don't give a rat's ass if it makes me sound bougie or pretentious or anything else. I used public transportation for years in my teens and 20s and all it did was make me hate people. At the end of the day you can't infrastructure away methheads, drunks, people who blast loud music out of shitty speakers, screaming children, people who don't bathe, piss-drenched seats, or puddles of vomit. More power to those of you for whom those things aren't dealbreakers, I guess.
old_gold_mountain@reddit
👆 Most environmentally conscious SoCal resident
bloodectomy@reddit
Yeah but there aren't any in my car.
old_gold_mountain@reddit
I guess I just can't imagine being so weak-willed that occasionally seeing a poor person on a bus would cause me to wall myself of from the outside world entirely in a box of glass and steel
shellz_bellz@reddit
Oh no it’s not just the poor people on the bus.
It’s people. In general.
They’re gross plague vectors who are loud and smelly. And I don’t have to deal with any of that in my car.
Bonus points for being able to go exactly where I want to go without having to take sixty thousand detours.
old_gold_mountain@reddit
Man I don't know what public transit is like where you live but it is not like that here.
Either that or your esteem of your own neighbors is just much, much lower than mine.
shellz_bellz@reddit
So you live in an area where everyone sits quietly and politely in their seats, never crowds around you, and all smell like bakery fresh cinnamon rolls? AND the bus takes you directly where you want to go?!
Where is this city and when can I move there?
old_gold_mountain@reddit
No, I live in an area where 99.9% of people sit quietly and politely in their seats, don't crowd around you unless there's no other choice, and pretty much smell like nothing in particular. And yes, the bus takes me directly where I want to go for most of my trips, and the rest of the time it takes me there with one transfer and a 5-10 minute wait.
The city is called San Francisco.
shellz_bellz@reddit
So .1% of people are still gross and annoying.
Good thing there aren’t any of them in my car.
claravii@reddit
I've only lived in a city and suburban sprawl, so I can't draw any comparisons to more rural areas.
Education is great, but it can be hard if you want to put your kids into a specific school. Healthcare is so easily accessible, to the point where I can walk to a hospital if I want. Crime happens more but is proportionate to the suburban areas where I grew up. More people leads to more crime.
My favorite part of living in a city is that I can walk or take transit to anything I could need. Of course, there are still things that are going to be further out, but those aren't everyday necessities. I can walk 15 minutes to the grocery store or pharmacy. It's less than 30 minutes by train to downtown. Cuisine still varies depending on the city and the people living there but is generally more diverse.
Figarila@reddit
It has it's drawbacks obviously but there's always something to do. If you're broke there's always something that's free that wouldn't be available in a small town. Museums usually have a day or two that are free or deeply discounted etc.
Most types of food are accessible late night or 24 hours.
The one thing I miss is how accessible it was to attend sporting events without a car. One year I was able to attend almost every home baseball game.
Technical_Plum2239@reddit
Big cities are all different. The one thing I will say is weirdly, there is a privacy you don't get in a small town.
You can go buy condoms and crescent rolls and a dirty magazine and nobody's gonna know. There is a real anonymity that is pretty great. I'm in New City and a reggae band pops up and starts playing the 1980s Soca music by Tiny Whiny? (specific for a reason) I can dance and have fun at noon on my way to get a coffee and I am not going to know anyone. Back at home? I'm not dancing in the street.
zebostoneleigh@reddit
Yup. Despite being surrounded by millions of people, it's a very private existence. People leave you alone.
Yggdrasil-@reddit
Absolutely another reason I will never move back to a small town. In my hometown, everyone was constantly up in everyone else's business. In my current city, I can count the number of people who know me by name on two hands and it's oddly freeing.
MoveTraditional555@reddit
This is so true, small towns and even big suburban areas are like this and it’s obnoxious. Moving to a city changes everything, it’s like you just disappear into the crowd
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
Remind me to never eat your crescent rolls.
Technical_Plum2239@reddit
I know. I dont even know why I said crescent rolls. I just picked something random because I knew someone with an dirty mind could imagine something. A-hem.
zebostoneleigh@reddit
I live in NYC. It's vibrant, fun, bustling, and friendly. People are going about their own business, but also willing to lend a hand to strangers (when there's clearly a need), but they're also not likely to put up willful incompetence.
This city is kinda dirty. Not dangerously filthy, but there's an edge of grime about. Visitors are a bit put off by it. Locals just shrug it off (mostly). There's always something to do - if you're looking for something to do. A lot of free opportunities for excursions, adventures, learning, theater, etc... There's also a lot of things that cost money - potentially a lot of money. "There's something for everyone."
I really enjoy living here. I've been here for 10 years. Before here, I was in Los Angeles... which would be an entirely separate post. I like big cities. I enjoy have world class dining, restaurants, and theater. I enjoy meeting people from all over the world. I enjoy having quick access to international airports. I enjoy have an endless supply of new things to see, do, and explore.
I find it somewhat unnerving to spend time in small-town America. I'd sooooooo quiet and dull (relatively speaking). I went to college in a small-ish town (we got together to watch TV and play board games.... a lot). That's not really a lifestyle that suits me. Although we do gather at homes (in NY and LA), I find that in both cities we tended to gather elsewhere for social events. The park, the beach, a restaurant, etc...
NYC is notorious for crime, but it's really quite safe. There's nowhere in Manhattan that I'd say is "unsafe." The Port Authority Bus Terminal area has a lot of homeless and "riff raff" about, but even that area is safe but it will not feel like it to you with your background). All over NY, you do need to exercise street smarts (which is short for: be aware of your surroundings and don't be dumb). If you look like you know what you're doing and where you're going, people just leave you alone. And most of the people that don't leave you alone can just be ignored. They're more of a bother than a threat.
Angsty_Potatos@reddit
Philly:
It's a really big small town. I feel that I'm mentioning daily that someone I know knows someone else from a totally different part of my life, thru some situation that doesn't involve me. It's a small world here.
Neighborhoods have a very strong culture. It's all Philly but if you ask someone from Pennsport their opinion on someone from Fishtown the conversation is likely going to be interesting.
Crime is obviously a thing, but I think it feels like more because there are simply more people here, so it makes sense that the rate would be higher. I personally don't walk around feeling unsafe. I just try and use common sense.
Philadelphia public schools are notoriously abysmal. It's a real damn shame. Parents who stay in the city w their kids will generally opt for charter or Catholic schools over public schools if they can.
It being a pretty blue collar city our cost of living is more affordable than places like NYC. But rents are on the rise.
Philly is extremely walkable and usually pretty nice to walk in. I enjoy biking here too. I also rarely need to use my car, and shit I need is generally convenient enough to keep my car parked for the most part.
Red_Beard_Rising@reddit
When I was younger it was great. Public transportation is why I don't have a DUI.
Once I stopped going out as much, being near public transportation wasn't as important, but I still lived in the city until I saved enough to buy a house in the burbs.
SkyPork@reddit
Crowded. Soooo many people, and they're all strangers. Traffic is terrible.
But There are so many options for anything, so many choices. I can drive for fifteen minutes and find pretty much any cuisine I want. Different grocery stores, multiple giant department stores to search if one is out of what I'm looking for. Multiple movie theaters to choose from. Giant libraries, great theaters (the theatre kind of theater), museums if I ever feel like checking out a museum.
Confetticandi@reddit
Originally from St. Louis. Now I live in San Francisco. SF is its own weird microcosm. I love it here, but it has its ups and downs.
The Silicon Valley influence is strong here. So, we have an autonomous taxi service in the city, and companies will use the city to test new things. You always have that one friend who works in Big Tech who lets you in on whatever new gadget is going to be announced - and may even let you get a preview. It feels exciting.
Close to a third of the population here is Asian-American which was new to me. The Asian food scene is obviously huge. Here, all the politicians try to pander to the Asian vote and they run campaigns in Mandarin. This creates unique political drama.
Cars are a burden and a huge expense. A reserved parking space will cost you $300/month and gas is $5 a gallon. So, public transit is much cheaper and more convenient. Everybody rents, even people making $200K, because a townhouse will run you $1mil+.
Walking everywhere makes you stumble across cool shops, restaurants, markets, and flyers about events that you otherwise wouldn’t notice from a car. It’s cool to be able to spontaneously meet up with friends in the park for a picnic and grab a loaf of fresh-baked bread, dumplings, and a bottle of wine on the walk over there.
Everything you can think of is available somewhere and since the city weeds out bad businesses, the baseline quality is high. Mediocre places just don’t survive.
San Francisco is basically a 7x7 mile square, just very densely populated which makes it super expensive. Since it’s so expensive to live here (my husband and I pay $5K/month in rent), it pre-selects for people who are obsessed with their high-powered careers. The culture is obsessed with “optimizing” everything, including your body and your personal life.
Career-focused people want to delay marriage and family in favor of chasing the money. So, people in their early 30s will still be living the same work hard, party hard single lifestyle as their early 20s. You meet other people who have already made millions and retired in their 20s and 30s and now don’t know what to do with their lives.
People talk about the area being a pit of “Peter Pan Syndrome” for this reason. I think the weather being the same every day contributes to it. It doesn’t feel like time passes normally here.
notyourchains@reddit
You get some freedom. No one generally gives a fuck about you, and vice versa. If you dress weird or whatever that goes well for ya. You have more options for shit to do, ways to make money, etc.
luckystrike_bh@reddit
You pay more for a lot less to have access to more activities. A ridiculous amount of money for a tiny studio or a shared place with roommates. You have to be wealthy to even own a normal sized house in a big city. There is definitely a downside.
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
I recently moved from Los Angeles to a small town in Missouri. The city so much better, words can't even describe. Big cities are just where life happens. You're never ever bored.
Neuvirths_Glove@reddit
I live in Fort Worth, a city that just crossed (or maybe about to cross, depending on which estimate you look at) a million people. The area I'm in I'd call "heavy suburban".... most lots about 60 x 100, single family homes, built in the 1950s. I won't lie: Crime is a thing here. You hear gunshots at night on occasion. I live on the edge of a barrio; there's a restaurant near me that says outside, "Be prepared to speak Spanish" and that's no lie. Almost everything I need is within five miles or less. Besides Mexican you can also find good American restaurants, plus Brazilian, Cuban, Ethiopian, Turkish, Vietnamese, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, etc.
There are a lot of people around, but it's comfortable to me. Some homeless people but it's not overwhelming. I've always lived in suburban/urban areas so it feels "normal." My wife grew up on a hundred acre farm and she prefers city life to rural life.
GlitteryPusheen@reddit
I spent half a decade in Boston and I loved it. If it weren't for the cost of rent, I never would have left.
Pros: Access to world class healthcare and education, walkability, nightlife, great museums, there's always something to do, there are tons of different cuisines available, and Boston has easy access to other east coast cities. Boston is very safe and has good access to green spaces.
Cons: the cost of housing is INSANE. Traffic sucks (if you drive or take the bus.)
srock0223@reddit
Grew up in a town like yours, we had more cows and chickens than people. 25 minutes from a “city” (approx 20,000 people when college was in session), shielded from anything else by the Adirondack mountains. We were very lucky because there was a very wealthy benefactor who founded Chazy a really long time ago and implemented the first centralized school in the area. His foundation still contributes to the school, even though its public. It consistently ranks in the top of schools for the state. That being said, my kids (living in Charlotte NC - population around 1.2million) have far more opportunities and cultural exposure here. I preferred the simplicity of growing up back home, but as an adult prefer the city for myself. You can’t beat the convenience of having stores, restaurants, food, jobs, all right on hand. Given the choice (if jobs and money weren’t a factor) I would raise my kids back home and then move back to a large city.
Delicious_Start5147@reddit
I live in the Phoenix area and it’s nice. Lots of stuff to do, places to eat, etc. healthcare is fantastic, schools are not unless your kid is smart or you have money.
Socially it’s both isolated and not. I only know one of my neighbors at all. But there are plenty of places to meet new people.
Fillmore_the_Puppy@reddit
Lots of good responses already, so I will just add this: One of my favorite things about city life is that it is very easy to find free and low cost things to do. There are always festivals and street fairs, regular free museum days, parks with activities, and on and on.
This is all fun and interesting for its own sake, but also helps to mitigate the high cost of living. With a little planning, we can entertain ourselves for a whole weekend with just the cost of transit and a meal or two.
NinjaAvenue@reddit
There are endless things to do and you meet all kinds of people. I workout a lot so I talk to different people at my workout classes. I also like getting beauty treatments done so I talk to women there. You walk a lot. The food is amazing. It’s easy to be healthy. If you don’t have a lot of money it can be tough because your living situation can be really shitty. Otherwise, it’s wonderful. I love being in a city. You feel like you’re a decade ahead of the rest of the country in terms of trends, etc. I see influencers and movies being filmed kind of regularly. When I watch reality tv shows they are often filmed within blocks of my apartment in some scenes which is weird but fun.
Curmudgy@reddit
I grew up in NYC a long time ago. It’s so long ago that talking about healthcare is mostly irrelevant to today’s discussions. I remember our GP making a house call when I had the mumps. But like many of the largest cities in the US, NYC still has the benefit of some world class hospitals that go way back: Sloan Kettering, Mt. Sinai, etc. It’s difficult for less populated areas to have hospitals that are dedicated to specific specialties.
The NYC school system is, I believe, the largest in the US. There are a couple of top notch academic high schools (Bronx Science, Stuyvesant), as well the LaGuardia High School of Music, Art, and the Performing Arts. There are also many excellent neighborhood high schools. My high school, which is one of those neighborhood schools, sent a good number of students to the Ivies, including 2 or 3 to Harvard and one to Yale.
Any big city will have a variety of neighborhoods, some with high crime and some with little crime. Mine was in the low to middle end. It may have been harder to burglarize apartment buildings back then because there were many stay at home moms who knew the neighbors, at least by sight. And our apartment doors were steel.
One of the best aspects for me was the variety of libraries. Two within walking distance, and when I became a teen, I could take the subway to the bigger central libraries. I could also go to museums by myself.
SonofBronet@reddit
I won’t stand for this Brooklyn Tech erasure
Curmudgy@reddit
Sorry, I forgot. I only have friends from the two I mentioned.
SonofBronet@reddit
That’s probably for the best
OGMom2022@reddit
I live in a big city in the South and it’s great. Everything is convenient and you have all the options for shopping, entertainment, hospitals and work. I’ve lived in rural areas and was a nervous wreck. I saw Jason behind every tree. 😅
old_gold_mountain@reddit
It's expensive, and anything I could imagine wanting to do can be done on any day I'm free
Tommy_Wisseau_burner@reddit
It’s definitely different than what you expect. I grew up in a small town outside New York City and associated cities to be like Manhattan. Most cities aren’t that level of chaos. It kind of shocked me that many cities have essentially suburbs within city limits.
Then again I’m pretty ignorant and didn’t know, until college, that towns could have more than 1 high school. I thought every town/small city had 1 high school or a regional school
Grunti_Appleseed2@reddit
Shite. Stay rural, it's so much better
alexseiji@reddit
It’s nice living in place that was designed specifically for people. Infrastructure makes life easier. It’s basically just really convenient to do stuff, whatever that may be. Also people being social creatures, there a ton of things to do for people to get together, even if complete strangers, to hang out, make friends, go on dates etc…
You also learn so much about yourself, and other people from all the walks of life that exist out there in the world that you’d never know about.
egg_mugg23@reddit
pretty awesome. i love how much nature is available here. and the food. so good
AKA-Pseudonym@reddit
My favorite part is being able to walk places, or take public transportation. I hate driving and I like going places. So big cities are for me.
Yggdrasil-@reddit
Same here! Here in Chicago I'm at most a 10-minute walk from several bus lines, two train lines, plus multiple grocery stores and restaurants. The area I grew up in is vastly different-- dirt roads and total reliance on cars-- and I definitely prefer the convenience of living in a city.
Also, Chicago isn't nearly as bad as it's depicted in most media. It's a city with a lot of history, diversity, and civic pride. The city does have its issues, but it's safer and cleaner than the news would lead you to believe. I really enjoy living here.
Medium-Complaint-677@reddit
Cities are the single greatest invention in the history of humankind. Period.
A major city gives you access to, for all intents and purposes, everything and anything you could ever want AND a lot of it.
That's the NYC thing that's hard to explain to people who haven't spent any time there. Yes, your small city has a good Chinese restaurant. NYC has 1,000 that are that good and 1,000 more that are better - and they're open 24 hours a day. It's wild.
You want to do yoga? What kind. Hot yoga? No problem. At 3am on a rooftop? Sure, why not?
I have no desire to ever LIVE anywhere other than a major city ever again. My wife and I adore the options, love the fact that we hardly use our cars, love the diversity, love the community, love the people.
SonofBronet@reddit
You had me until that last part. That’s not really the case.
little_red_bus@reddit
Ive spent some time in a few.
Living in London, it’s nice. You can walk nearly everywhere, take a train and get across the city in 30 minutes, you never have to worry about if you have had too many drinks to drive, or about wasting time sitting in traffic. There’s always people out and about, and tiny little stores, restaurants, parks, and walks to pass the time. Your work commute is less stressful and you have endless options for food and nightlife. There’s so many museums and attractions. Its truly changed my perspective of what a good place to live feels like as I’m never depressed coming back from vacation. The weather does suck though, it’s expensive, and space is at a premium.
Living in Los Angeles, the weather is perfect, it has nearly as much to do as London has to offer, the people are so friendly and chill. Some of the coolest of any major city. I love LA culture, the beaches the good vibes, the breweries, the endless sun, the great coffee, the endless food options, and the gorgeous scenery. The car enthusiast culture in LA is great, but it’s also not at all walkable, there’s not that many parks, and there’s few urban neighborhoods. On the other hand LA has some of the cutest neighbourhoods with little craftsman homes. It’s also insanely sketch in some areas, far more than London ever has been for me.
Living in SF is probably my least favorite of the three major cities I’ve lived in. It’s gorgeous, but I find it to be lacking in terms of the big city aspect you get from LA or London. It reminds me a lot more of a medium sized European city with Americanisms than it does a big city. The people are friendly but I find them to be less down to earth than SoCal people are. The food options are good however, it’s more walkable and has better transit than most US cities, and it’s unbelievably gorgeous and still has that California weather and culture.
I’ve also lived in Austin, Nashville, Tampa, and Phoenix, but they aren’t even noteworthy enough for me to write something on them.
Afromolukker_98@reddit
I love it. Very diverse, at least here in Los Angeles.
My neighborhood is filled with cheap street vendors with food from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Colombia etc.
You can get some good Thai, Indonesian, Chinese, Indian, Persian, Korean, Japanese, Filipino foods.
That's my favorite part.
Of course bigger city, means larger population, means more visible crime and craziness. But I was raised in big city so this is the norm for me.
The socio economic diversity is huge. One day you can see a celebrity walking out of 7/11 and down the block you see a homeless mentally ill drugged out dude next to his home he built out of wooden planks and tarps.
I can be surrounded by buildings, then head on up to hills (well not now due to fires) and have a hike, and go down to the beach.
I don't normally see the same people around everyday. Seems to always be different people you run into. So no one really knows your business. It feels a bit isolating compared to a smaller town I'd imagine.
Cities attract people from all over the country and world, sooo again diverse.
Freeways (highways) are very important here and are all throughout the city, with huuuge streets for much of the city. Smaller streets if you're in the hills or beach areas.
It's complete 180 of a small rural town. I'd think if someone lived in a rural town all their life and came to LA, it would feel like going to another country tbh. There would be culture shock. As it was for me going to see family in rural Northern Alabama.
Avery_Thorn@reddit
I grew up in a city about twice the size of yours, with 2K people. My parents moved to the "big city", of about 50K people, when I was 10.
After I graduated, I moved to a city that is slightly larger that is part of a community that is in the top 30 US cities by size.
The biggest things that I can think of between the tiny community that I grew up in and here is-
* In terms of restaurants, basically any cuisine I can think of, I can get in the city. Most common cuisines, there is some place selling it within 10 miles of my house. (Ironically, about the only Cuisine that is really, really hard is Native American.)
* In terms of shops, there are 5 grocery stores within 5 minutes of my house. Just about any specialty store that I can think of, I have one within the city.
* If the movie is in theatres nationwide, there is someone playing it in the city.
* Broadway shows come here on tour.
* Most major concert tours stop here.
* Lots and lots of cultural stuff - plays, art galleries, art museums, museums, small concerts, all that stuff is very well represented.
Less obvious stuff:
- Community is normally more virtual. There are so many people, you don't know everyone in the area, so you end up with two types of community: the near you community, which tends to be hyper local (people who go to the same grocery store as you, people who live in the same building / block/ street as you, so on), and then your chosen community, which is where you seek out groups of people who share common interests or hobbies or stuff like that. Some country people think that there isn't a community like there is in a small town, but it's more like, there isn't a default community based on where you live, you need to find your tribe here.
- Loneliness is a thing. Because we're always bumping into people, we tend to give people their space. People around here are good people, and will help you in a heartbeat - but they tend not to step in until you ask because they want to give you your space. People from rural areas see this giving space as being standoffish, but when you get to the kinds of population densities you get to in a city, you value the bubble of space that people give you. For a city person, it's rude to just bust that bubble if you're not going to interact more.
- Lots of nature. Seriously, we have a LOT of parks and natural areas. We really like them. You would probably be surprised at the amount of wildlife in my yard. (Seriously, there is a herd of deer in my yard most of the time.)
KikiDaisy@reddit
This is a good summary. I grew up in a 1K town surrounded be even smaller towns and now live in a 4M metro area. I now have so many more choices for things. Need a specialty doctor? No problem. Here are 100 of them within a half hour. Need an ingredient to make a dish on a holiday? No problem - some place will still be open.
stellalunawitchbaby@reddit
I live adjacent to a big city, except LA is a bunch of neighborhoods lol. But it has…everything. And options for everything. From the very big (concerts, events, etc) to the very small and independents. Restaurants, shops, companies, malls. It has the best and the worst and everything in between.
Luckily I’m in Pasadena so it’s even better, I can just…pop over to LA lol. When we’re not on fire it’s just the best.
citytiger@reddit
my favorite thing is being able to walk and take public transit anywhere.
FreshHotPoop@reddit
Pros of living in San Antonio, Texas:
Amazing food. The river walk. Make more money than in rural areas. Seeing the downtown skyline never gets old to me when driving near it. NBA games (go Spurs go). Lots of great shows. Six flags.
Cons of living in San Antonio, Texas:
Traffic. It’s hotter than two rats fuckin in a wool sock. Public transit is dogshit. No car? Screwed. Everything is kind of far away from everything. Traffic.
anneofgraygardens@reddit
ichiro? is that you?
Drew707@reddit
This is fantastic.
Until reading this, my favorite Texas-ism was "they don't know their ass from applesauce" which I learned from a girl from Wichita Falls.
C_H-A-O_S@reddit
You can just walk to restaurants and parks, it's great. No need for the whole production of backing the car out of the garage, getting the kids all situated, and driving through traffic just for some cheeseburgers. So much more convenient and healthy (besides the cheeseburgers part)
Bear_necessities96@reddit
It’s overwhelming, lots of noise and people but if it depends of what do you like, I sincerely can’t see myself living in a small town or the suburbs (I’ve lived in suburbs and hate it).
The main thing about cities is just have options, you have hospitals for the rich, the poor, college or trades schools or bootcamps, you have options of public transportations, bikes, taxi, cars, you have options of dining or housings, you can live in a shoebox or a shared apartment or crashing someone else’s couch, gig jobs of any kind or corporate jobs or industrial and warehouses and most important you have entertainment, museums, theaters, movies, nightclubs, bars that closes at 2-4-6 am, public events…
But also it’s expensive to live in one and although people complain about crime is not as bad just gotta keep an eye on your surroundings, you have millions people in a radius ofc there’s going to be at least one who is taking advantage of the rest
Inside-Beyond-4672@reddit
I've only lived in cities but I know from Reddit responses that a lot of people are like, I live in a rural area and I don't have this or I don't have that or I don't have this. In the city you have access to everything. You may have to travel a little, but still. It also depends on the city... like if you live in DC proper and you want to large Asian supermarket, you need to go to the nearby Virginia or Maryland areas.
Rando1ph@reddit
I grew up in a small town in Iowa and now live in a small city of right around 1 million in the metropolitan area. The obvious answer is there are more people everywhere, and more options for stuff. There isn't just the one town bar and a Casey's. People in the cities like to crap on small towns for some reason, I've never got it. Every time my property taxes come due, I get an inkling to move back to the country. :) Crime can be an issue, but it depends heavily on your neighborhood. I have to register to buy any handgun every three years, it's a city law. This city isn't big enough to have any meaningful public transportation, so it's car-dependent. That would probably be the biggest difference for a large city, that and just more people, and everything. There are many more options for schools and youth sports. I grew up with the same people K-12 and played for the same city sports teams. Most people go to different elementary, middle schools, and obnoxiously large high schools. Youth sports is a big thing with a gazillion different leagues, sometimes the school teams don't get enough kids to field a team, because so many go to private leagues.
Cruitire@reddit
I’ve run the gamut of small town to city and find pluses and minuses to both.
Grew up in a mid sized town in NY about an hour from NYC. Went to college, and then lived for a few years after in a small college town in NY. Moved to San Francisco for 25 years. Now live in another small town in NY (about 12000 people).
Of course not all cities and not all small towns are built here same.
The town I grew up in gave me a group of friends I grew up with and went to school with from K- high school. It gave me forests and lakes to play in, hills to go sledding down in winter, and neighborhoods I could ride my bike around in without worry.
And living close the city, as we got older we could take the train down and take advantage of everything it had too. Particularly concerts.
San Francisco had pretty much everything else and the things I actively miss now that I’m not there anymore:
Being able to walk or take public trans everywhere.
The Symphony.
The opera.
The many concerts venues.
Plays.
Museums that rank among the best in the world.
The food. How I miss the food.
I can get some of that still if I go into the city now, but living there it was nothing to take advantage of it all. If I felt like it I could go out any night of the week and hear any kind of live music. Eat almost any kind of food imaginable. See any major play or show.
And I could take the train home and be in bed by midnight if I wanted to.
Now if I want to do those things it includes working in 2 hrs of trains to get there and back just to start.
Also any given day I would leave work, stop at the gym on my way, after stop at any number of small grocery store, bakers, butchers etc and pick up all fresh ingredients to make dinner. Now it’s a 15 minute drive each way to a supermarket when I need things.
The convince was great. And honestly I was in better shape and healthier living in the city because I walked everywhere and always had access to fresh and good quality food.
There is one other thing I miss. There is this trope that small towns are full of friendly people who all know each other and have a strong sense of community and in cities no one knows their neighbors.
That is such a lie.
I will admit that growing up we all knew the neighbors but that was a different time when mothers mostly didn’t work and kids in a neighborhood all played and hung out outside together.
But as an adult it has taken a real effort to get to know even some of our neighbors. And those we have gotten to know are great, don’t get me wrong.
But many have zero interest in getting to know anyone who isn’t already in their circle and aren’t particularly friendly. If you don’t have kids the same age or have some other specific connection they don’t want to be bothered.
When I lived in SF I knew all my neighbors and I could count on them in a pinch. We had neighborhood BBQs and picnics (we lived near a park) and progressive dinners.
If someone was going away on vacation the entire block would keep an eye on their place. Everyone helped each other and looked after each other and got along remarkably well.
I miss that sense of being part of a neighborhood that cities actually do better than towns.
Spiritual_One6619@reddit
I grew up in Brooklyn and have lived in Boston, Philly, Miami, Los Angeles, and Seattle. The crime in cities is extremely overblown considering population density. I feel safer in cities than in suburbs or small towns- I do love nature and visiting rural places it’s just not where I prefer to live.
I love the anonymity in cities, the energy from the environment, and that cities are always changing. I travel often to Los Angeles and NY for work still, and watching my old neighborhoods change, ebb and flow sparks my curiosity. I love that you can make whatever you want to out of a city, and that neighbors can have wildly different lifestyles and their own unique “world” in the same city.
In my experience people are really the same everywhere, there are bad people and good people. I generally believe that most people are kind and just doing their best.
DrBlankslate@reddit
More services are available more readily than you'll get in any small town. Hospitals, regular medical care, police, firefighters - they're all local, within a mile or less, and there in a heartbeat when you call on them. This goes for personal services too - whether it's getting a massage, getting your hair cut, getting your nails done, or getting a tan, you'll find it close to wherever you're living in a city.
More goods are available more readily than you'll get in any small town. Groceries, restaurants, furnishings, clothing - you'll get a huge variety, and lots of choices. (I read about a small town whose four restaurants were a McDonald's, a Denny's, a Chinese restaurant that also was the only laundromat, and a pizza place. We urbanites would never put up with that lack of variety and choice.)
It's louder, and brighter, and busier than your small town. Light pollution means you won't be able to see most stars at night. Air pollution is real, too. You will need a car in most cities, and you'll need to get used to paying for parking everywhere you go. Some cities have "walkable" areas (kind of like your rural town's main street) but most do not. You'll have to drive or use pubic transportation to get where you need to go.
It's a lot more diverse than your small town. Nobody looks like you, and nobody looks like anybody else. The variety in skin tones, hair textures, eye shapes, clothing styles, and more can be overwhelming for someone who has only seen faces and clothing that looks like theirs all their life. The variety in language (there are areas where nobody speaks English!) can stun people who've only ever spoken English. (And no, shouting slowly in English at someone who doesn't speak it does not make it more likely they'll understand you. Don't do this; it's a dick move.)
Get used to nature being something you see only in city parks, or in potted plants in your apartment (not house). We don't do nature in cities. We do glass and concrete.
You don't know what real traffic is. Traffic is being in your car for more than an hour twice a day, going to and from work. It is not four cars stopped at an intersection.
Lock your doors and windows. Always. Never leave your door unlocked; it's not safe to do that. Keep your windows shut and let the air conditioner and heater keep you cool and warm.
The city never sleeps. Most services run 24/7. Most stores do, too. Dinner is usually at 8, not at 5, and bedtime is around midnight, because you have socializing to do after work and that's when it's done. But you can get Chinese take-out at 2 in the morning. We expect that.
If you want to really irritate city folk (not a good idea), move in groups on the sidewalks and block our way. NEVER do this in a city. You will have tons of locals not just annoyed but pissed off at you. Don't stop or stand around on a sidewalk. Always leave people a way to get around you if they need to move faster (and city folk generally do).
Along with that, respect our personal space. Don't talk loudly on public transit. Don't crowd us. Don't bother us. We aren't interested in the fact that you're a tourist here to see Disneyland or the Lincoln Monument or Shea Stadium. You're in the way and we don't care.
DrBlankslate@reddit
Lose the "I'm a rugged individualist" attitude. It doesn't fly in a city. Cities are made up of people working together to get things done. Rugged individuals screw up that dynamic, and create problems where there weren't any before. If you are proud of being a "rugged individual," can it. You just come across as a show-off and a jerk.
Crime is a thing, sure. Is it a thing in your neighborhood? Probably. Is it violent crime? Probably not. Your car might get broken into or stolen; that's what insurance is for. Are you going to get assaulted by a guy with a gun who demands your money? Highly unlikely, unless you wander into the rough parts of the city.
What rural people experience as loneliness ("I'm all alone in a big city where nobody knows me and wouldn't care if I disappeared"), urban people usually experience as freedom and safety ("I'm all alone in a big city where nobody knows me! I have my privacy and anonymity and nobody's up in my business, whew!").
Building on that: there are hundreds of thousands of people in most cities. Crime isn't as big a deal as you think it is, because one murder in a big city is like one murder in a state full of small towns. It's that likely to impact you (not very likely at all). And most rural folks cannot wrap their heads around the size of populations in the cities. The only place you might know a few people is the neighborhood where you live and shop. You'll know the people at the bodega, you'll know your building's manager or super, you'll know a few neighbors because you see them in the elevator or on the stairs. But that's a teeny slice of the number of people who live in the city.
When you try to chat with us and we rebuff you, we're not being rude; we are maintaining our privacy and our energy. The human upper limit for deeper relationships and connections is about 150 people, and you see that many people in a city between leaving your apartment and getting to the bus stop. So you probably won't have conversations with most of your neighbors; we don't have the time or energy to spend on that interaction.
44035@reddit
Imagine getting in the car, driving 15 minutes, and walking into a large store where they sell nothing but books.
thelovelyleighxoxo@reddit
Another vote for walkability. Something about walking from point A to point B that is so satisfying to me. Living near everywhere I need to go and walking to it was pure bliss 😊
frawgster@reddit
I grew up in a town of less than 1,000. In my 20s-30s, I lived in Los Angeles for 8 years. The best way to sum up my experience is by saying that in a big city, you don’t matter. At all. You don’t matter. Hard stop.
I loved it. I’d move back if I had the chance. But it definitely ain’t for everyone.
RnBvibewalker@reddit
I live in a mid size city. But would be considered a big city to you.
It's nice having stuff to do when you want (bars, movie theaters, sporting events, concerts etc)
Also the necessities like grocery stores, medical, schools, are nice and having variety.
So yes that's the big thing.. having a nice variety of things is great. Obviously with a larger city more noticeable crime, poverty and shitty people are the negatives.
Ok-Maintenance-9538@reddit
I used to live in Minneapolis, in a "bad" neighborhood, crime was pretty regular, but rarely something you worried about in your day to day life. I loved having quick access to anything I wanted to eat or drink or shop for. My wife and I went to concerts all the time and I took in baseball games pretty regularly. There are definitely parts of it I miss, but when she got pregnant with our first daughter we moved back home to a medium city and now I love in a town of 1500 or so and I wouldn't want to be anywhere else
RebelSoul5@reddit
I didn’t live in the biggest big city — about 600K, with about a million in the “and vicinity” part.
Traffic is an issue. Crime was a thing but not so terrible that it was unlivable. Best thing about a big city is everything is right there — live theater, sports venues, great restaurants, festivals, museums … there was something fun to do within 15-20 minutes of where I lived.
I grew up in a small town and it was movies, miniature golf, and the mall. If you wanted to go to an NFL game or MLB game, it was an hour drive under the best conditions.
Plus, I’m not super outgoing, so I love how easy it is to blend in and feel anonymous.
Usrnameusrname@reddit
It was incredible, and I miss it now that I’m raising a family in the suburbs.
I didn’t realize I “wanted” to live in a big city until I was about to try it for work (conservative parents & grew up closer to your setup) but anytime I was somewhere walkable, I LOVED it.
My neighborhood was walkable - 2 Michelin star restaurants with 10 minutes, 10 coffee shops, endless bars, restaurants, and takeaway joints of every food type. We had parks, a bike trail, snd and public transportation.
Being able to walk to “services” like hair cuts, grocery stores, and even ironically car maintenance felt so healthy and “alive in the world.”
And car parking + traffic was…fine. Not as easy as the suburbs but easy enough, and with so much walking distance I hardly cared.
While I lived in a neighborhood, I worked in the high rise area (eg for chicago, think “the loop”, for NY think the financial district) and that felt like a movie.
And of course entertainment was fantastic.
Plus, there’s so many people out doing so many things - it gives inspiration
Crime existed but didn’t feel present (my neighborhood’s and all those near its’ crime rates are lower than US average, despite the city’s average being hire).
Healthcare was easier - walk to clinics, existence of one medical, and most the US’s world class hospitals are in downtowns (I know, Mayo is not.)
And for lack of a better phrasing, I felt like I was experiencing more of the world.
MuzzleblastMD@reddit
I lived in the DC. Metro. We had a townhouse that was walking distance to the Metro (subway). I took it into Washington DC when I worked at the hospital there. We also used it to visit the Smithsonian museums, spy museum, zoo and tour DC.
We lived near all sorts of restaurants. We ate out a lot. The groups of people there are diverse. There was always a festival to celebrate and our friends were from various cultures. Our child learned Indian dance. We also went to various parties on every weekend, if I wasn’t obligated to work.
Tons of shows were available every week, and we took our child to many concerts.
Cost of living was high. Real estate, gas, groceries, and taxes.
Traffic was heavy, but luckily I lived within 6 min of one hospital and 18 min of the other hospital I worked.
Lines for restaurants were long. Movie theaters were crowded. Shopping centers were crowded, and parking was a challenge. I’d rarely drive into DC proper due to parking costs, traffic and commuting.
Now I live in a place that I can drive from one end to the other in 15 minutes. I can do several errands within an afternoon that would have taken me a week in a big city. My place is on just under 8 acres, now, and I don’t have people next to me, but there was a sense of community in the townhome community of the big city. Where I am now, theaters may have 4-6 others watching a movie. It’s easier to get a table in a restaurant. Taxes are lower. Crime is much lower. There aren’t as many concerts or events but we usually have festivals monthly. In my airport there’s only one gate leaving at a time, and going through airport security is a fraction of time of that of the big city. Pace of life is slower. People aren’t self absorbed like the big city. Life is great.
Current_Poster@reddit
Whatever you need to know! I moved from a small town in MA to NYC about 11 years ago. In that time, I've lived in five different places in moved away from the city and back.
There are a few topics I can't really help with (for instance, I graduated ages ago and don't have any children, so I've never personally dealt with the educational system here). But otherwise:
Crime wise, I've been stolen from, but it wasn't a breakin and I've never been robbed to my face or assaulted. I've done jury duty here twice, but have only had limited contact with the cops themselves.
I've worked a few different jobs, and did the Covid lockdown like everyone else. I was married when I got here, so anything I know about dating here, I heard second hand.
I'd have to get specific about the healthcare thing, what would help?
HippiePvnxTeacher@reddit
It’s awesome. Everything I need I can walk to or hop on a train. Theres so many people, places and possibilities all at my finger tips. Chicago specifically kicks ass because you get all this good urban stuff while simultaneously, it’s not NYC big so it has a charming way of feeling like a small town when you’re within your own neighborhood. It’s really the best of both worlds imo.
As for your specific questions, healthcare is very good if you have the right insurance since we’ve got some very top tier hospitals, but not everyone has the ideal insurances. Crime happens but statistically it’s just as common in cities as in rural areas. But the sheer number of people makes it feel more prevalent.
amazingtaters@reddit
One thing in my experience folks in rural areas think about with cities more than folks that actually live there is crime. I grew up in suburban Missouri mostly (both KC and StL metros) and I've lived in DC proper and Indianapolis. At no point while living in the city did I feel like I was more likely to be a victim of crime than when I've lived in the suburbs. It's just not something that's a day to day thought to me, even though I currently live near some parts of town that can be pretty rough around the edges.
TheViolaRules@reddit
Awesome. I love it. The town I grew up in had 1400 people when I lived there. There’s so much to do, almost every kind of restaurant, great parks, cultural events, etc. I live in a neighborhood some might think is sketchy, but you just have to be aware of your surroundings. It absolutely beats that shit out of the rural cow town I was born in
deadplant5@reddit
A lot of really good food. Not a lot of nature. Stuff to go to if you want to.
Cyoarp@reddit
The education is better than rural schools. A lot of people don't know that. It's not as good as suburban schools of course not at all but it is significantly better than rural schools.
The crime in most large cities is not as bad as people think it is. Don't get me wrong there are some where the police are corrupt like Baltimore or where things are really bad like Peoria, but most large cities are actually pretty great. It's true there's always crime happening somewhere in a big city but if you get to over a million people that just doesn't matter. As an example I was a paramedic in Chicago in 4 years of being on an ambulance I had exactly one gunshot wound victim and he wasn't even hurt that badly he got shot in the ankle. XD he arranged a date while in the ambulance I had to explain to him he wasn't going anywhere for the night. But my point is that if there are 500 shootings in a year and you have 3 million people that the chance of you having anything to do with that is something like 0.016%chance of you being shot in any given year. That's way lower than most small towns.
Healthcare.... That's a hard one and it Mary's greatly City to City. La Chicago New York the idea is that you should have a 5 to 10 minute travel time from any place to a hospital in an ambulance and that anyone in a City ambulance will be a paramedic. You will have several different levels of hospital available specializing in different things depending on what the patient has wrong with them. You'll have a level 1 trauma centers level 1 cardiac centers OBGYN specializing hospitals then you'll have level two trauma centers general hospitals local emergency rooms and urgent Care. We have the best hospitals in the world in big cities. On the other hand your not going to know the doctors or the admins or DM the nurses. Your not going to get special treatment.
The biggest benefit to living in a big city is the food! Oh my God say what you will about your cousin's barbecue I'm sure it's divine but the sheer variety and quality of food in a big city there's just no Way around it, it's the best!
calicoskiies@reddit
It’s fun af, but can be frustrating at times. There’s always ppl around. There’s always something to do. Good is chef’s kiss. This has changed a little since the pandemic, but there’s a lot of places open super late. I think the education here is decent. Ppl like to talk shit about education here, but you’ll be fine in a “bad” school as long as there’s parental involvement. There’s so many opportunities here and many different types of schools. I’m happy to have my kids in school here because of the diversity. They are exposed to people of many different races, ethnicities, religious, SES, etc which to me is just as important as academics. I have access to all types of healthcare. We have several big hospital systems. Crime has been going down year after year. Tbh I don’t really worry about crime. I just know I have no business going to certain area after dark. I’m not sure I could live outside of the city again just due to the all the opportunity and access to everything I have.
kejiangmin@reddit
I have lived in cities that have 20+ million people in it and I just love having the opportunity to find anything that I want and things were much more convenient. I didn’t have to own a car.
I think the biggest convenience was grocery shopping because it seemed like there was a grocery store on every corner with so many options.
There are more things to do and more up opportunity to explore more niche hobbies.
I enjoy having privacy and in a big city things are more private. It seems like an oxymoron, but in a big city people don’t care what you do and you are left alone for the most part.
In a small town, if you sneeze, everybody knows it. I’ve worked in towns of less than 4000 people and everybody knew my business. I didn’t like it.
Biggest issue of living in a big city: depending on the city could be crime or filth or overcrowding. But like most people have stated big cities are not for everybody.
vidvicious@reddit
I lived in NYC for a hot minute, and I loved it. Love the energy. Love that a car was unnecessary, love the variety of food I could get, and the fact that any big name act comes through.
TheOwlMarble@reddit
I've lived in
The only one where I didn't feel like I belonged was Minneapolis. It just felt fundamentally wrong to be around so many people that simply didn't care. The buses were convenient, but I hated the experience.
jayp196@reddit
Have lived in big cities and rural towns in my life.
I like the ease of getting to things and doing anything I want being closer, no more than 20min drive vs. Having to drive over an hour when I lived in rural areas just to find a sporting goods store or whatever else.
The endless options of shopping, restaurants, or really any activity. You have tons of options vs usually 1 or 2 options in a rural town.
I like the diversity in cities vs a lot of rural towns. Cities are a melting pot of different cultures, ethnicities, ways of life, etc. And you learn a lot more about the world in a city I think cuz everyones so different. You become more open minded to different ways of life.
People in my own experience were friendlier to everyone in cities than rural towns, especially if you're a minority.
Crime/drugs was no difference in my experience. Crime is generally over exaggerated in cities by conservatives. There's going to be safe cities and safe rural towns, and dangerous cities and dangerous rural towns 🤷♂️. Crime is much more complex than city vs. Rural.
The 1 big downside is cost of living, but for all the above to me it's easily worth that extra cost. Its not everyone and thats fine, but this is my experience and why I prefer cities.
Cyoarp@reddit
You have the greater than less than symbol backwards.
BreakfastBeerz@reddit
I lived in a rural town and then moved to a suburb (30,000). The biggest difference I noticed, and wasn't expecting (I thought the opposite would be true) is that nobody gets in your business or cares what you do in the suburbs. In the rural town, if Jimmy's dad got a DWI, everyone knew about it. If Susie's mom cheated on her dad with the neighbor, everyone knew about it. And not only did they all know about it....they all talked about it. Everyone talked about everyone else...a lot of back stabbing and ass kissing went on. Also, due to the lack of diversity, there was also a lot of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia. There's this perception that small towns are quaint, quiet, and the people are all so nice....far from the truth, it's a ugly place to live.
In the suburbs, nobody gives a shit who you are. Everyone keeps to themselves and doesn't mind anyone else's business.
Xerisca@reddit
I've lived in about every living environment. Cities, suburbs. rural, overseas, and even a rural island only accessible by ferry.
Cities are my absolute favorite.
I live in Seattle. The neighborhood I call home was featured in the movies Say Anything and 10 Things I Hate About You.
Donald Trump tells MASSIVE lies about Seattle. I think most recently he said it was a gaping crime ridden hole that is on fire. Could have fooled me. I totally walked to a convenience store at 2am last night, and saw no crime or fires. Haha. I've always felt safe in the city.
In fact the only time I've experienced violent crime was in an upscale suburban neighborhood, and I dealt with property crime in both my suburban homes and rural homes, never in my city homes.
I disliked my rural homes the most. People say they move to rural areas for the privacy, but my experience was that rural was the LEAST private place I've lived. Those neighbors are always all up in your business.
My suburban homes were always the most private. I lived in a suburban home for 10 years and never met a neighbor. Haha.
My city home, I know all my neighbors, we chat, sometimes we have little outdoor parties in the summer, then once you go inside, no one bugs you. I've always felt the healthiest sense of community in the city.
Yep I'm a big city girl fan. Especially in Seattle.
squishyng@reddit
I will focus on public transportation
American definition of “big city” is very different than a large part of the world’s. We only have 1 city with over 5 million people, and 8 others with over 1 million people. These numbers are low compared to China, India, Indonesia, etc
Many of our big cities are also very spread out, and people density is low. Owning a car is almost a requirement. Public transportation exists in every big city, but frequency and routes are sparse compared to most developed countries. Therefore it is used by lower income people in most big cities
There are exceptions where you can get around easily in some cities, like New York, Boston, San Francisco. But you wouldn’t want to rely only on public transportation in Los Angeles, Houston, Phoenix, Dallas
purpledrogon94@reddit
I’ve done both. Grew up in a small town in the Midwest, around a 1000 people. The pros of that are you feel close to your community, you/your kids can participate in basically everything the school offers, it feels pretty safe. The cons: it’s clique, people know your business, not many job opportunities.
I had a good childhood and participated in everything my school offered. Sports, dance, cheer, musicals, theater, FFA, FHA.
Then I moved to Los Angeles and then to Minneapolis. The pros: anything you want to eat or do - it’s available, people tend to mind their business, better job and housing opportunities Cons: it’s expensive, you have to be aware of your soundings, it’s hard to make friends due to people already having their “people.”
Nermal_Nobody@reddit
I live in NYC- no coffee is under $5 for a small. It’s filthy and around people 24/7. That said you can get anything you could want any time of day or night. The world is at the doorstep.
PushkinGanjavi@reddit
I love it. Education will depend on neighbourhood. Ravenswood is better than Uptown for example. Living is great, your daily chores counts as exercise since you walk or bike a lot. It's a very walkable city by North American standards. Crime will vary. My area is safe as long as you're aware of your surroundings. The place where most crime happen are places many locals don't frequent.
Overall I prefer city living to subburbia and rural life. I moved from a very car centric place to study & work abroad before returning to the US, and Chicago is the city where I've never been happier within the US. Meeting people is quite easy for me since we have groups like Chicago Gentlemen Who Stroll where it's low pressure walking around the city with a group of guys who you later become acquainted with. The diversity of cuisine is amazing too, I've got my go-to Puerto Rican, Mexican, Persian, Yemeni, Korean, and Vietnamese spots within a bike, bus, or train ride away. I'm perfectly fine with not having mountains, it's a price I'd pay for the life I have right now. I can always do a 3 day weekend trip to the Pacific Northwest for some nature photography and camping
charlieq46@reddit
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StanUrbanBikeRider@reddit
I live in the Art Museum area of Philadelphia and I absolutely love it. I have spent a good deal of time in rural communities on vacation, but I would not want to live like that. I love having all my essentials within walking or biking distance. I am retired now, but when I was working, my typical commute was 15 minutes each way riding my bike. Plus there’s a plethora of interesting activities to do that are conveniently located. When I need to go grocery shopping, it’s a 5 minute bike ride to a huge grocery store. My doctor is a 20 minute bike ride away. I am within 15 minutes of some of the best hospitals in the United States should I need major medical care.
Anteater_Reasonable@reddit
It can be fun and exhilarating. It can be exhausting and frustrating. You can walk around the busiest part of town, surrounded by people of all sorts, and be completely invisible unless you purposefully draw attention to yourself, and that can be cathartic or depressing depending on your mood and perspective. You can go out at 4:30AM and see people on the same subway car just finishing a night out with friends, and other people going to start their shift at work. It is expensive, and there appears to be lots of choices for education and healthcare, but you will pay dearly and may have to wait a long time for quality. Crime exists and affects people who live in poorer neighborhoods worse than those who live in wealthier neighborhoods, as you might expect. The biggest cities get the most national media attention; that can make the crime seem much worse than it is. Most people are decent and helpful, but not as outwardly chummy as you’d find in small communities. People in big cities are generally less willing to trust strangers, for a variety of reasons. If you are approached by somebody on the street, you will try to gauge what their motivations are. They could just be in need of directions, they could be asking for money, they could be trying to scam you, or they could screech like a pterodactyl and spit in your mouth. It’s hard to tell sometimes.
ContrarianSwift@reddit
I like having top rate medical facilities nearby if my family or I need them. Additionally, if I lose my job, I know there’s always something else out there and I won’t have to move. I appreciate a wide variety of cuisine, entertainment options, and professional sports teams.
HurlingFruit@reddit
The biggest city I lived in (as an adult with adult responsibilities) was the Washington, DC, area. It was exciting because it was my first job after university and, compared to my medium sized hometown, it was a big, active, international city. But because it had millions of citizens in the metro area, it was crowded. Traffic meant that I had no time for personal chores like grocery shopping until the weekend. And then, millions of people like me were all trying to go to the grocery, the pharmacy and the drycleaners at the same time. It took as long to find a parking space at the grocery as it did to do the shopping. Eventually I tallied up how many hours a week I spent sitting in my car just going to and from work and trying to get the basic chores done. I never lived in a city that large ever again. But it was great when I was young and curious.
Traditional_Trust_93@reddit
I used to live in northeastern Wisconsin in an unincorporated town. It took three times to come together to make a high school where 21 students in a grade was the largest grade and that was mine. I moved to Hastings Minnesota and having everything so close and being able to bike around is nice though I miss the tranquility of the woods. I wish to live out near town but somewhere in a field where I can watch storms roll in. I'm quite the weather enthusiast.
blipsman@reddit
I love the activity, the vibrancy, the diversity... there's a lot to do, countless restaurants to try, neighborhoods to explore, events to go to. Nice to have mass transit as an option, so we only need to own one car. Schools are a mixed bag, but we were able to get our kiddo into one of the better schools via the school lottery. Access to multiple world class hospitals. Crime in Chicago is way overblown. Most of the gun violence is among gang members/drug dealers and people in those worlds, and mostly in certain parts of town. So it doesn't affect most people not in those world.
sneezhousing@reddit
Love it I could never willingly live in a small town.
atlasisgold@reddit
Grew up in a small remote town. Not that small but things you would notice.
Anonymity. You won’t know anybody or see anybody you know unless you arrange to meet
All the services you want are right there. Oh the one vet in town quit and you have no help now. Not a problem. Need a HvAC guy at 2am in winter. No problem.
Always stuff to do. Sports concerts etc
Direct flights to almost everywhere and cheaper flight tickets.
People are much ruder lol
If you’re single way more options and you don’t have to know all your partners exes lol
Don’t have to travel for serious health issues.
Feeling_Name_6903@reddit
You see all walks of life. You eat foods and see parts of cultures that aren’t your own on a daily basis. You realize homeless people are your neighbors too. Society’s issues are pealed back a little more and you realize they are more complex and nuanced. There is always a sense that anything can happen.
rinky79@reddit
This will vary a lot by city.
GOTaSMALL1@reddit
I've never lived permanently in a big city but I've lived 3-6 months at a time in the "Downtown" parts of SF, LA, Dallas and Houston for work.
I find "big cities" to be crowded, oppressive and claustrophobic... But to each their own.
G00dSh0tJans0n@reddit
There's always noise. I grew up in a rural (>100) town and now, living in Charlotte then Raleigh, the thing I hate the most is there's always noise. A siren, a car, a train going by, random other noises and machinery. It's so nice when I can get outside the city to wilderness areas where there are no man-made sounds.
Blue387@reddit
I take the subways and buses and don't have to drive any more. I can visit events and go to Mets games without having to drive. I don't have to worry about alternate side parking or digging my car out of the snow.
DOMSdeluise@reddit
it's nice, I like all the amenities. wish housing was less expensive.
MrLongWalk@reddit
This will all vary immensely with the city itself. A small town in Vermont and Small town in Alabama will be like different planets, same thing with Boston vs Atlanta or Seattle vs Houston.