Microsoft 365 End of Support for Windows 10
Posted by ImKruptos@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 24 comments
I haven't seen much chatter on r/sysadmin about the EOL blog that Microsoft just published stating that M365 will be dropped in October along with Windows 10. My company was planning on Extending Windows 11 a year to allow for a hardware refresh, but dang this changes things.
ZAFJB@reddit
Move to Windows 11. No more problem.
Any hardware that does not support Windows 10 is long past its sell by date.
Get on with it. You only have 9 months left.
SysAdminDennyBob@reddit
Truth. Any hardware that does not support Win10 is no longer fit for the environment. Why aren't sysadmins absolutely gleeful about this? Here is your golden chance to skip past all the bureaucratic BS, the cry babies, the lack of budget and get some decent boxes under your wing while pointing the blame at a 3rd party. "[shrug] yea, no choice gotta spend some coin bossman"
Stop being sentimental about commodity corporate boxes. "Oh man this old Celeron is still good man, I could run Linux on this baby with VIM and that would be so sweet!" Cattle, not pets. Throw these old rectangles out and get some new rectangles.
I have Devs wanting to keep 12 year old boxes. Why? "Because I just kind like this old tower format". Those are not personal optiplexes, they are ancient depreciated assets. get over it.
When I am done with these last 47 boxes my whole fleet will be supported and under warranty. I feel like I should go ring a bell or something with this achievement. The other thing this is gone is a bunch of crapware that was on those. There is no downside.
BudTheGrey@reddit
That dog doesn't always hunt. We have some Windows 10 PC's and laptops with i7 processors, 16GB, SSD, TPM, and pretty good dedicated video, that are not Win11 compatible.
SysAdminDennyBob@reddit
i7 was released in 2009. I find that a perfectly acceptable cutoff. I still don't get the concern, it's somebody else's money, spend it. Here is your chance to force their hand. Everyone in here is getting a new phone every 3 years. It's a commodity rectangle, treat win boxes the same. Your dog analogy is telling. Again, these are cattle, not pets.
BudTheGrey@reddit
So your logic implies that since the i7 debuted in 2009, we should not purchase any i7 Win11 boxes. My personal desktop is an i7, purchased 8 or 9 years ago. It took Win11 just fine. Yet my i7 laptop, purchased 2 or 3 years later, cannot run Win11 because of the CPU.
I get the whole "it's company money" thing, but I try to be fiscally responsible, meaning I spend the money like it's my own, getting the most bang for the buck. We've budgeted for the update, but the compatibility inconsistency is annoying. We've already targeted a subset of machines where the "upgrade" will be Linux.
SysAdminDennyBob@reddit
Simply saying that if your processor does not make Microsoft spec cutoff then you should buy new hardware. You have a year to budget right now.
I cut phones and windows devices at three years, that's the game. Just like Enterprise rent-a-car does not keep a car around for 10 years. They are fully depreciated. They are commodity objects. It's fiscally responsible to abide by depreciation schedules that are on the books.
Here is what you do. Get your head security guy who is responsible for patching and your head accountant that is responsible for budgeting and put them in a room with a couple of cricket bats. Winner makes the call with regards to if you are going to be able to patch next year.
Good luck with moving to the linux desktop, I am sure this is the year that's going to happen.
Sea_Fault4770@reddit
That dog should be put down. No TPM, no workie. Sorry about your luck, Chuck.
tankerkiller125real@reddit
We have an old internal project system tool used for tracking time to bill customers. It uses .NET 3.5, Office 2010, IIS, and a bunch of other legacy BS. I fought with management for 5 years to get this thing either upgraded or replaced entirely. Last year when they brought on an intern they finally decided to get with the program and assigned the replacement project to him. We're a year in and we're about 2-3 months from production deployment. When that final production deployment is released, I'm not joking when I say I'm buying the entire company pizza and having a party over the original systems death. No more .NET 3.5, no more IIS, no more Office 2010, no more legacy bull crap (other than the database design, but that's tied to the ERP system, and at least on modern MS SQL 2022)
You absolutely should ring a bell or party for replacing every legacy machine with something new. I know I will when this damn shit software is finally gone.
SysAdminDennyBob@reddit
I also just got rid of my very last .NET 3.5 app as well! I have really purged out some enormous technical debt in the last year. I have 3 more server 2012 to go, just retired 8 of those 2 weeks ago. Also killed off Oracle Java at long last, that was also due to the vendor forcing their hands. "It can only run on ORACLE!!!" uh, nope works just fine on Eclipse Termurin it turns out.
This might be the first inflection point where I have every workstation on the exact same OS, Win11 23H2. I had one guy that upgraded to 24H2 that screwed it up. I think 24H2 needs another 60 days. In the next year every workstation will have an SSD and no more hard drives. We try to flip each device at 3 years, 5 years is now the max.
bouncyrubbersoul@reddit
You want to share a link? Windows 10 end of support in 10/2025 has been known for a long time now, and m365 isn’t being dropped, not sure what you’re referring to there.
ImKruptos@reddit (OP)
Here is the link
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/what-windows-end-of-support-means-for-office-and-microsoft-365-34e28be4-1e4f-4928-b210-3f45d8215595#ID0EBH=Microsoft_365
ccatlett1984@reddit
You can purchase a 1 year EDU for $61 per endpoint (costs for year 1)
bouncyrubbersoul@reddit
Ah, so windows 10 is eol and any office install on it is not supported. Not a huge shock.
fuckedfinance@reddit
Office 365 support for Windows 10 will drop. OP is being willfully misleading.
ImKruptos@reddit (OP)
How am I being willfully misleading? Aren't you just reiterating what I just said?
apandaze@reddit
it could be Microsofts confusing name changes, Office 365 to Microsoft 365, then saying Office is going EOL; Kinda confusing?
Ka0tiK@reddit
The bigger question for me is of window server running M365 support (say, for remote desktop VDI session hosts on server 2019 which uses win 10)
ohdannyboy189@reddit
The big thing to keep in mind, if your company is planning to buy extended security support for Win10 it does not mean Office 365 suite is supported on the Win10 machines. Microsoft support will only support O365 on supported operating systems. Support will not see Windows 10 w/extended security patches as supported for Office.
thortgot@reddit
Supported in this context is unlikely to mean "won't work" and more likely to mean won't be patched specifically for 10.
ImKruptos@reddit (OP)
Agreed, but in an enterprise setting, not being patched is a big enough deal to get us to get off of Windows 10.
bouncyrubbersoul@reddit
Which is why we are now taking windows 11 seriously. Not patching thousands of endpoints, OS and Office, is not viable.
curleys@reddit
Which is the intention
oneder813@reddit
Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 7, and Microsoft 365
Support for Windows 10 will end on October 14, 2025. After that date, if you’re running Microsoft 365 on a Windows 10 device, the applications will continue to function as before. However, we strongly recommend upgrading to Windows 11 to avoid performance and reliability issues over time.
Source: https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/office/what-windows-end-of-support-means-for-office-and-microsoft-365-34e28be4-1e4f-4928-b210-3f45d8215595#:~:text=Support%20for%20Windows%2010%20will%20end%20on%20October%2014%2C%202025.%20After%20that%20date%2C%20if%20you%27re%20running%20Microsoft%20365%20on%20a%20Windows%2010%20device%2C%20the%20applications%20will%20continue%20to%20function%20as%20before.%20However%2C%20we%20strongly%20recommend%20upgrading%20to%20Windows%2011%20to%20avoid%20performance%20and%20reliability%20issues%20over%20time
AppIdentityGuy@reddit
What this means in effect that the version Office you install from the portal will no longer be supported if running on Win 10 after the date mentioned in the article..