[Handgun] Century Arms Draco 9s with brace and free shipping 549.99

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skippythemoonrock@reddit

A chill runs through every indoor range target carrier in the land

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Essentials-@reddit

It says it’s threaded but doesn’t clarify the thread pitch in the listing. Google says it’s 1/2 x 28 though. Thats the same thread pitch on my AKV, and I put a Kaw Valley Precision trilug on mine.

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Essentials-@reddit

Mines straighter than me but that’s not saying much. Flash light test passed and I overreacted buying an alignment rod.

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NCRaider1@reddit

Anyone able to compare to the akv or kp9?

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sickels61@reddit

Id say your AKV and KP9 are a step above this, but these(DRACO) are honestly decent guns. If you're looking for a fun toy and wanting to dip your feet into the 9mm ak realm this is a decent option.

Personally, the AKV is supreme; commonality with mags is a big winner and the support of PSA. The kp9 takes proprietary mags and KUSA is essentially out of business pending whomever is going to actually take them over. People are wanting big money for the KP9 right now for no reason except it was made by KUSA.

There may be a bunch of people riddling off reasons that the kp9 is far superior to the akv but honestly they function just as good as one another.

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ryfr4742@reddit

Super helpful, thanks! I’m partial to PSA too bc of the great experience I’ve had with their ARs but this 549 free ship price tag caught my eye. These Century Arms are made in Romania?

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NCRaider1@reddit

Agreed, PSA has taken great care of me as well, got a kusa ks12, always wanted the kp9 but cant imagine still paying retail for it with the uncertainty of support/parts. Seems they should be dirt cheap but what do i know, cheapest i’ve seen was $950 at lgs. Waiting on akv to go on sale!

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ryfr4742@reddit

Yeah would love to go PSA over this but $320 (shipped) difference is a lot https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ak-v-9mm-moe-pistol-black-without-pistol-brace.html

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iRollFlaccid@reddit

Extra $320 vs reliability and PSA warranty? Idk.

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prot8to@reddit

People like the KP9 more because it’s a 1:1 clone of the Vityaz. About as close as you’re gonna get, if that matters to the purchaser. Also, you’re incorrect about proprietary mags.

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sickels61@reddit

No problem, there's still some people on here that trash budget stuff for absolutely no reason other than it's not expensive, so just ignore them.

These are made in Romania, now whereabouts in Romania will give you conflicted reports. Century says Cugir, but other "sources" claim Nova Modul. Truth be told both are recognized and quality producer of arms. Romanian guns get a bad rap when Century imports "assault rifles" because due to our wonderful gun laws only certain parts and pieces can be imported but the "rifle" has to be assembled/ made here. The "Pistols" don't have to follow the same rule. Hope that helps.

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FreedomFocused_@reddit

Is the entire rifle made in Romania or just the barrel?

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sickels61@reddit

For ACTUAL rifles I believe most of the furniture and some parts are only allowed to be made outside the US. I'm not 100% on that just kind of basing that hypothesis off of 922r rules. I believe the barrel and receiver are US made and that's where you see alot of the bad machining reputation that CAN be common with Century.

As for this PISTOL the receiver and everything that makes the gun go boom is most likely built and assembled in Romania with furniture and other accoutrement possibly attached here in the US. Pistols do not have to play by the same rules when being imported.

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prot8to@reddit

People like the KP9 more because it’s a true 1:1 clone of the Vityaz. About as close as you’re gonna get, if that matters to the purchaser. Also, you’re incorrect about proprietary mags.

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oRAPIER@reddit

The only reasons i ever see people who prefer the KP9 cite is that it is an actual Kalashnikov and not PSA. Never the difference in features. That big money people are throwing around is for the stamp.

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sickels61@reddit

I blame alot of that kind of thing on guntubers and the social media gun flexers. Like I'm all about appreciating someone's cool kit but for fucks sake, in my mind I still struggle to find how a KP9 is selling for nearly 2k in my area right now.

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OfficerRexBishop@reddit

Huh. Every Guntuber review I've seen of the AKV has been extremely positive.

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sickels61@reddit

Not saying they trash the akv, I'm just saying there was definitely a stronger push towards the kp9 for no "real" reason

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Thoraxe474@reddit

for no "real" reason

The reason is that it's better

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Pleasant-Passion5985@reddit

I had sales tax so 580 total. If you don't have sales tax you're still getting it at a good $

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Zharm@reddit

The kp9 has a full length travel on the bolt. You cannot tell it is a 9mm unless you look at the mags.

This long travel apparently lessens the recoil impulse below most blowback pccs.

I have handled both and own the AKV. I didn't go with the kp9 because the propriety mags i thought would be hard to source.

Also the kp9 has had some reported quality issues, such as some reports of out of battery discharges and fragile firing pins. This is largely reddit comments but this might have played a role in their bankruptcy.

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Thoraxe474@reddit

Honestly, the mags haven't been hard to get but can be pricey. I buy real vityaz mags.

For quality issues, there was OOB reports and kusa changed the firing pin design from the original vityaz design to a new one. Some guy online sells quality makes of the firing pin.

The only issue I've had with my kp9 was that I sent my brand new bolt off to kusa to have the firing pin updated and I got back what I assume was someone else's bolt that was quite beat up and had a lot of finish worn off. Doesn't affect performance but it was just really disappointing to lose my nice, new bolt that I wanted to break in.

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xKHAZx@reddit

and KUSA is still not even a "real" kalashnikov if we're getting that far into the weeds

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austinj907@reddit

It’s supposedly a 1:1 copy of the real vityaz, I’m assuming that’s what he meant.

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9IX@reddit

As a KP9 owner, AKV> KP9 > Draco 9

Only because KUSA is “unavailable” for any customer service and OEM parts are not easy/cheap to find right now.

Plus the mags for the AKV are currently cheaper as they take CZ mags

To me, the KP9 and AKV shoot about the same. The Draco felt “harsher” as I noticed more recoil.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

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DoctorVepr@reddit

False

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Euphoric911@reddit

This takes scorpion mags as well, hence 9S

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9IX@reddit

I didn’t know that. Thanks!

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Budget_Sort7961@reddit

These are likely to break before an AKV or KP9. The good news is that you can afford two of these compared to one AKV and who knows about the future of the KP9.

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Backwoods406@reddit

I had an AKV. Sold it because of the unpredictable bump firing despite multiple attempts to fix it. PSA denied doing warranty work as i was "using it incorrectly" causing it to bump fire. If you pulled the trigger slowly it wiuld bump 2-15rds everytime. If you jammed the trigger to the rear it would. The disconector didnt grab the hammer as it was supposed to and with direct blowback its just a runaway gun.

I also have one of these. It made it 100rds before I had to send it to Century. They had it for 2.5months and it has the exact same problem as when I sent it in.

The issue with my Draco is that the bolt hold open lever gets wedged between the frame rail and the bolt. The bilt hold is supposed to engage the face of the bolt but is being pushed up to high/close to the frame rail. So you Literally have to beat the bolt rearward to get it to unlock. It does it 100% of the time without failure. Century said they adjusted it but it cleary is still messed up. Now I'm going to adjust it myself and if that fails it's getting cut out.

Honestly the AKV was cool if you could control the bump. The Draco has a different trigger so bump firing is less likely which is what I wanted. If either worked as it was supposed to I don't think you could go wrong with either.

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Thoraxe474@reddit

If you want a vityaz, kp9 is actually a vityaz. Akv and draco are not

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ryfr4742@reddit

Now that they're $579 (fuck dynamic pricing), it makes them more than this version at PSA. Yeah it doesnt have a brace and takes Glock mags. Does anyone know how easy/cheap it is to add a brace to this version? https://palmettostatearmory.com/century-arms-draco-nak9-9mm-ak-pistol-hg3736-n.html

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Ilovetacosandmyself@reddit (OP)

The brace it comes with is about $120

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Pleasant-Passion5985@reddit

This! I was on the fence til I looked up the cost of that brace

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ryfr4742@reddit

Oh shit ok. Yeah it was tempting to go with the one on PSA bc I already have a lot of Glock mags and a drum, but I def want it work with a brace

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Sea_Rooster_9402@reddit

These are fun! I read somewhere that bolts fail on some people after 1,000 rounds. I'm not that far on mine yet, but just FYI

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PeachStateSmallArms@reddit

What exactly fails?

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pheret87@reddit

The bolt.

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Hiltson87@reddit

2024 me: I'm going to save money and make smarter financial decisions next year. 2025 me: lol I'm a soundcloud rapper now

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ryfr4742@reddit

This might be my venture into AKs, didn’t want to add 7.62 to the ammo. Thanks for sharing

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Vader_Your_Father@reddit

It's a 9mm AK man. No 7.62 ammo needed

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ryfr4742@reddit

Yeah I was saying the fact that most Draco’s are 7.62 has kept me from getting one up until now. Most of my ammo stash is 9mm and 5.56, so I’ve been trying to avoid adding a caliber. Even though the price is now 579, I just ordered one 👍🏻. These look better with the Scorpion mags bc they’re kind of a banana shape, the straight Glock mags in these look unnatural

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