Been here over six years. Live in McKinney, commute to Dallas on 75. That experience alone would make anyone want to gtfoh. Honestly though, I just feel Dallas is very plastic & fake. Too many wannabes flaunting material wealth like cars & watches & augmented bleach blonde girlfriends or trophy wives with no real pot to piss in. Don't even get me started with the delusional Cowboys fans & their vitriolic fan base. It also lacks a bit of charm & welcome that I've gotten from other places I've lived. I do enjoy my job & the opportunity it has provided me & my family, so I just don't bother to worry about the other things...except for my 75 commute. Just my 2 cents.
Any reason you stay in McKinney if you work in downtown? Just sounds like a poor choice of residence, especially since 75 is probably
what I’d consider the most consistently, congested highway in the whole metroplex.
Relatively speaking it can be cheap. My old apartment here was literally under $1/sqft when I first moved in 8 years back. It was enormous, people with a roommate and half the sq/ft in NYC paid more than I did. It's a major city with people constantly moving in so of course it's not cheap relative to all US cities. LA, NYC, SF, DMV, Boston, Miami, San Diego, Seattle, Providence, all these cities are certainly more expensive in terms of housing, groceries, and especially food and alcohol at bars/restaurants.
Keep in mind a huge amount of people have been compelled to move here by businesses against their wishes. Dallas has always been a working person's town, but you have a non-trivial part of that influx primed to hate it from the jump.
Dallas has always been a bit of a pinata because it's a Prairie town which means no mountans, no oceans, descriptor, and extreme weather. It actually has a healthy output of art and artists but they're usually coopted by Austin or people forget they were DFW people. People who actually like Dallas tend to know where to see these people. People who wish they were in New York, Denver, LA, Chicago, etc., don't bother.
I think it's more than that. I moved here last spring from Iowa and I'm already making plans to move back. That's reasonably mild weather, populated prairie, to cold af, barren nothingness prairie.
Dallas weather is the worst I have experienced honestly. You get oppressive shit summer and horrible air quality from June to November, then everything dies, and it is "winter" but ugly, one week of hell level allergies and back to oppressive hell summer.
I personally think the midwestern weather is great. Seasons, summers are amazing, winter is beautiful, and you get these prolonged falls and springs that seem to last forever.
I've never experienced Iowa weather but I'm sure it is similar to other Midwestern states.
Midwestern winter lasts from Thanksgiving to early March and can be fairly mild. I'm sure in the northern midwest it is longer, but they still have actual seasons. They can also be extremely beautiful. It beats the hell out of 100 degrees from late June to October.
Chicago is one of the most beautiful cities in the country and has wonderful seasons. I would say that Chicago has some of the best summer weather in the country and definitely one of the best public transportation systems. The food, the lake, the history... If there is one thing Dallas cannot due, it is throw shade at other large cities. Particularly Chicago.
I don't live in Chicago, but I visit a lot. Lived in Dallas for 8 years... it ain't even close bro.
Buddy, I lived in Chicago for 15 years. I can throw shade on Chicago “seasons.” You apparently never had school/work closed for cold. Not even snow, just that’s it’s dangerously cold.
I grew up in Dallas and moved to the Midwest for grad school. I didn’t mind the cold as much as the lack of sunlight, which lasted for months. My mood improved immediately when I moved to a sunnier state after graduation.
That's not true throughout the Midwest though. If you're referencing cloud cover. I mean we have shorter days in winter but not by that much. I lived in Dallas for 8 years and grew to absolutely hate the heat.
I left Williamsburg Iowa in 2010, my wife and I make at least double what similar jobs in Iowa pay and the cost of living is roughly the same. We live on 6 acres in Kaufman County 1000SF house and pay 1800 per year in property taxes.
I moved to dallas originally for university and then a couple years following. It was an absolute blast. Loved the city.
Moved away for career. Found my way back here 9 years later. It's a dull place.
Having a decent job, disposable income, living the young single dream was what was fun...not the city.
Of course any city is what you make it. Dallas has a great arts scene, nice unique areas (some becoming a caricature of itself, like others do. see: Austin). There's tons of family-friendly activities and lots of options. But when you compare it to places with natural beauty or better public spaces/parks, or public transport....yes you can't get everything in one city....but plenty of cities do more of them better than Dallas does. Dallas has all of the concrete jungle of Los Angeles without the upsides. It has the traffic of Seattle without the waterways and beautiful mountains.
I've lived in Florida, Philly, NYC, New Jersey, Austin, and Dallas and spent most of 2017 in San Francisco.
We moved back to Dallas for the high QUALITY of living and low COST of living.
Is it perfect? No. We miss NY/NJ and access to culture there. Austin was awesome. All of them are stupid expensive, and when we looked at the tradeoffs, we realized we could live in Dallas and visit those places for the same cost of living there. Yes we miss outdoorsy stuff, but is it a deal breaker? No.
I'm also a car guy and make car content. The car scene here is great
I'm glad you mentioned the art culture in and around Dallas. I am always proud of how Dallas is represented through our local musicians, actors, and artists, as well as how many of those same artists invest back into the city.
As someone who’s into local music I’ve actually found Dallas to be better for stuff like that when compared to somewhere like Nashville or Austin because there’s still stuff happening but it’s not overrun by tourists
Yeah I think if metal or punk is your jam Dallas surprisingly has a lot going on for that as I can tell. For more typical rock or indie rock shows, which I personally prefer, Austin seems to have that in spades
Dallas is just a giant smorgasbord of poverty, the working class and not much else. People bored out their minds shoving consumerism down their throats hoping it’ll make them happy.
Buddy, if you think "just finding a job locally" is that easy then I'm jealous of how effortless your life has been. There's a good amount of people who move because of their employer, usually said employer pays all incurred costs associated with the move, and gives them a stipend for everyday items during the move. In some cases temporary housing is set up, along with a rental vehicle, trying to make it as painless as possible. However, that still depends on the company.
If you're an employee with a relatively good company, financially the compensation is good, and your higher ups are decent people to work for, you're probably going to really think hard about leaving that company. It's a god damn chapter of Hunger Games out there, finding the right employer, with the right position, a place you can comfortably say to yourself "I can do this until I retire or die" is pretty fucking difficult. Therefore if a company checks all those boxes for you, odds are you'll go with them if the price is right. Because security is priceless in life. You can not put any price on a sense of feeling secure in life, at the workplace. But again you can just fund something locally, not all people are as fortunate as you.
So they decide to willingly stay at their jobs for comfort, pay, and other reasons. That doesn’t sound like something against their wishes? You have 49 different states to choose from and a plethora of different cities with thousands of job opportunities. Why choose to stay in DFW if you don’t like it?
They’re privileged to even have a job that is willing to pay for relocation and has a good salary. That is something many Americans don’t have the privilege of.
I’m not going to sit here and make excuses/feel pity for privileged middle to upper middle class individuals who willingly make choices to move to a city they apparently dislike for job security.
When I first moved to Dallas I worked on a project for GTE (yes long time ago). They were about to merge with Bell South or someone (Verizon now I believe).
The people at that Irving building that exactly mirrored Initech (Office Space). They were angry and miserable people. I couldn't figure it out until I found out they were offered to move or get laid off.
I was like, it can't be that bad.
Then a few months later I was on a project in their old building in Thousand Oaks, CA (was in the movie My Stepmother is an Alien) working where they formerly sat. I don't know what could make someone make that move other than a huge retirement plan or longevity but I really got their anger and sadness.
It was the 90s though and IT was booming, I would have just quit.
Dallas is whack. It’s basically Texas’ butthole. Big, loose, dirty, with lots of less fortunate inside it. I’ve never lived in a city where you can clearly see the parity between rich and poor. This is a town for snooty rich folks. Definitely nothing southern about this city. Very tragic. Very sad.
It's a bunch of socially isolated commuters complaining in that thread.
Well, yeah, any city would suck if you spend several hours driving and don't have friends. DFW is not unique in that regard. It just doesn't have immediately obvious redeeming qualities like the Nashville music scene, NYC restaurants and culture, or Miami beaches. You can find stuff like that in DFW but it takes longer.
Dallas is where I grew up. I moved to Austin almost 15 years ago...had fun at first, but it quickly became a cesspool of lame. The only thing I miss there is the woods, but the Greenbelt is dry and trashed more and more. Dallas is lovely when you come back after so long and realize you still have so many friends still here. I moved back to Dallas this last year and couldn't be happier. But, it does depend if you have family and friends here. It's pretty cliquish, so newcomers...I get why you don't like it. Also, it definitely depends on what part of town you live in. Some areas would make me despise living here If I lived there.
Just depends what you want. The NE states are very expensive, also where you live in the NE, and which state, is so vastly different I'm not sure what you're picturing, there's plenty of stripmall shitholes to live in around New England. CA has some of the best nature in the country, but it's also wildly expensive and cities like LA and SF make Dallas' homeless issue look non-existant, among other problems.
DFW is one of the best places to raise a family imo. Which for a lot of us is paramount, more so than year round pleasant weather or easy access to skiing.
Hot tip, the old fish hatchery on White Rock is a hidden gem if you live near the lake. It's really not that big, but the trails criss cross and much of it is very dense, also no map, no signs so you just wander around back there. Really pleasant, only sounds you here in there are nature, not big enough to hike for an afternoon or anything but perfect to just walk in nature after work. Just be cautious in warmer months for ticks.
Idk about cliqish in the sense groups don't expand. I grew up here, moved for school then work, and returned. Most of my friends returned as well. The core group's known each other 15+ years, we fold in people all the time who are transplants.
Totally agree with your take! I grew up in DFW. Moved away in 2013. Came back in July last year and couldn’t be happier. Just like every city, It has its moments that make it kind of lame but parts of Dallas is so great. I won’t get into all the details, but I appreciate it more after I’ve been away from it so long.
That subreddit basically just shits on everywhere that isn't coastal California, the Northeast Corridor or Chicago. It's full of delusional chronically online people who expect to find a place with perfect weather, great urbanism, and beautiful scenery, without realizing that that's exactly what everyone else wants as well and that's why those few areas that exist are so expensive. Nobody there wants to live in a red state either and hardly anybody there ever asks about moving for job/career reasons - which is like, THE reason why you would move to Dallas lol.
Exactly! I feel Dallas hit the sweet spot in the 2010s as the city itself made some decent strides but was still reasonably priced. Now it feels stagnant with a much higher COL. I know this is all subjective but for me anyways, I feel Dallas just doesn’t offer much value anymore. Austin is the same way.
Horrible is so dramatic. Some of y'all just seem lonely and bored. Make friends and go to Deep Ellum, float on White Rock with a cooler and some joints, just do something besides sitting inside.
No one’s floating on White Rock, unless you meant in a sailboat or with your rowing crew or something. If only we could actually swim or take some inner tubes in that feces runoff. Le sigh.
Not really. There are plenty of entertainment districts and new additions to the city every single year. If u cant find decent nightlife or museums then that is entirely on you.
I found the museums to be so underwhelming for a city of this size. The entertainment districts as well are just a few blocks of bars. Didn’t really compare to what other big cities offer. Sorry that’s just how it feels. Every person I talk to in real life feels the same way
Lmao the point is those cities, Paris esp, have a ton of culture and 'adventure' and that's why they are global tourist hubs. The two are connected, duh. You picked some of the most famous cities on the planet with culture that 95% of cities worldwide cannot hold a candle to. I'm making fun of your standards based on the examples you gave, chief. I'm sure you can figure it out.
Are you challenged? That’s literally the worst argument I’ve ever heard lmao. I mean, to be expected from someone simping for Dallas but goddamn dude. What is this chicken and the egg childish logic.
“lol ya see, those cities only have tons of people coming to see them because they’re culturally rich and packed with things to do and fun and adventurous and some of the best examples of a city psh that’s all! If not for those things they would’ve be so popular!” Like yeah. That’s my whole entire premise doofus. Thank you for supporting my argument?
Sounds like most of Reddit. If that thread taught me anything it's that Redditors are just generally unhappy about almost everything and don't actually want a solution.
Yes, but only to places that have mountains, oceans, and forests, with walkable towns where no cars are allowed, wewith 65 degree weather year round, and rent is $500 e month
The bad one? Is that supposed to be 2011? Or the one in the 80s? Cause 23 sucked almost as much as 11. I can’t speak for the 80s cause I wasn’t around for that.
Like I said. I wasn’t born in the 80s. But 2011 was the most comparable summer to 2023 with 100 days of 100+ degree temperatures in my hometown. So actually a little bit worse than 2023.
Looks like there were 55 days over 100 last year in DFW, but only 21 of those days were consecutive. I do know it was like the second or third most days over 105 last year in DFW
Nah, you're not the odd one. If you go to White Rock in the heat of summer, there's still plenty of people out and about. People are just dramatic as fuck on reddit
I generally don't mind the heat but I am an incessant sweater. I look outside the window wrong and beads start forming. My wife keeps telling me to bring it up with my gp at next annual
It's one of those "nobody picks on my little brother except me" kinda things
Criticizing and hating Dallas is a huge part of being from/living in Dallas.
A majority of those Dallas-responses were people who moved to the suburbs, from what I can tell. They all discuss how much they hated moving out to the suburbs around Dallas. I can’t expect to move to a small car-dependent suburb on the outskirts of Atlanta and then go posting about how the city of Atlanta is boring, stale and sprawling. It’s just silly.
If any of them had moved into the thriving urban core of Dallas they’d have felt differently, I could literally ONLY see them disliking it if they’d come from a larger, denser and more alive city than Dallas, which is not many in the United States. NYC, Chicago, SanFran, and then MAYBE Atlanta, LA, Seattle, Portland, Miami but they’re on a more level playing field when it comes to the urban core.
Nah, we’ve just lived elsewhere where the cities actually had culture. Live in Greenville area. It’s nice but there’s zero culture here. This is one of the most cookie cutter cities I’ve ever lived in. If it wasn’t for work, I’d dipped a while ago
As in what, DFW sucks and you have to leave to know? Lol I've lived all over NE and did 9 months in LA. DFW is a B+ city. A lotta folks miserable here don't understand 99% chance wherever they go, they won't magically stop being depressed.
Oh, please. There were people in that thread shitting all over NYC for...reasons. Anyone who can't find something to do in each one of the top 20 metros in the US is just a miserable person forever chasing greener grass.
Agreed. They've all got their pros and cons, their charms and their frustrations. NYC, for instance. Great place. Could never afford it in my line of work though, and damn those winters are bitterly cold and dark.
hah, i feel like summer there is a mix of somewhat mild pleasant days and nasty swampy heat. especially gross when the subway station is all dank and steamy
I’ve been here for three years no from KC and there are definitely things to really like about Dallas. Bishop Arts being one of them. I love the vibe. That said, man, I really wish Dallas would invest, or would have invested, more in restoring their older buildings instead of selling them to the highest bidder and letting them get torn down for overly priced office space or apartments/condos. There are bits and pieces of character in Dallas, but it mostly reminds me of the place you go if you want to hold a business conference or something.
And before someone chimes in and says “well, maybe you should have bought the building so it didn’t get torn down” like I’ve seen in countless other threads, cities can absolutely establish local preservation ordinances in order to protect old, historic homes and buildings. It just doesn’t seem like Dallas was ever interested in that, and it’s a bummer. Really sucks the life out of a city when its history gets largely erased by capitalism.
Actually, a good book called The Dallas Myth talks about Dallas's past and how it's almost in its \~100 year history to always tear down old building for new. Dallas as a culture has embraced the tear down and replace method. "new is always better"- Barney Stintson
There's literally a street car that goes from bishop to union, then the red, blue, or orange line to cityplace/Uptown subway station. There's also a bus route that runs parallel to the streetcar if you'd rather that. Literally very easy.
So like in the years around 2000? We were looking at houses. (My mom and me)
On Greenville Ave near like the Richardson / Dallas area there was a bunch of old houses etc. Really nice still. Well we toured one of them that was for sale next to a newly built house (aka the new eyesore that didn't match the rest of the block....)
During our tour a person popped in and asked if we had any additional questions etc. Turned out they were the owners and they lived next door in the eyesore house.
Iike I like new houses too but it really was out of place and the style of it was ugly to be honest lol.
A few years later the whole block was taken down anyways for like apartments or whatever is new over there.
God that is so sad. I’m with you, I think modern homes can be really cool, but I prefer older homes. They were just literally built different. Aesthetically, at least. That’s the one thing I really like about KC is that there has been a lot of thought and energy put into protecting older neighborhoods. That’s not to say they’re not experiencing gentrification, because they are, but even if you go downtown, it’s demonstrable that the city prides itself on its history first and foremost. And personally that’s my jam.
I haven’t spent a lot of time in Ft Worth, but I’ve heard it’s similar to KC in that regard.
Why do everyone seem to hate Dallas here? I’ve been here for approximately 6 months and I love it. Yeah it’s flat, but there are many other places that are flat, especially the Midwest. Coming from a blue state (Chicago) to a red state the gun laws here are WAY better. A lot more freedom here. Dallas is also a major business hub where I’m able to thrive in multiple avenues. Also no state income tax. Not to mention Dallas has a lot less people compared to other huge metropolitan cities, which equals a lot less crime.
Seems everyone is just complaining about scenery and it being flat but not realizing you can be very successful here and there are so many opportunities.
They're just a bunch of chronically-online folks who complain about any place that isn't NorCal, NYC, Chicago or rural Virginia.
Going through the comments and you can tell that:
1.) Most of the ones complaining about Dallas don't actually live in Dallas, but one of our suburbs like Garland, Denton, etc. Even funnier when people correct them by telling them that they're not actually in the Dallas urban area. Like, do they expect a Friday night on the Vegas strip-type experience in Frisco or Plano? 😂 Suburbia life in general is the same EVERYWHERE in America: rows of brick houses and NPCs all over the place
2.) Most of them seem disgruntled because they were "forced" to move to Dallas (assuming because of job relocation or career pursuit) and didn't bother Googling the area. Dallas is a prairie city. The whole area is flat, the Trinity River only looks like a real river when it swells from heavy rain, there's no mountains, no lakes except White Rock Lake in a short distance from the Dallas urban area, no beaches, none of that. A simple Google search would show this. So why come to a "flat, cement" city expecting any of that and complain when you don't get that experience?
I'm a firm believer in the fact that you can have a good time no matter where you at and what you have if you're open-minded. Most of us probably aren't in the most ideal places in our lives, but we make the most of it. I grew up in a house without heat and running water as a kid but we found our joy where we could. I've been to Memphis, Albuquerque, Houston, Phoenix...made the most of each trip and enjoyed myself. Then again, I'm also introvert and love the little things in life so I'm only speaking from my own perspective.
Still, saying Dallas is "soulless" just because it doesn't have the same appeal of other cities due to geographic location, weather, personal experience is a pretty close-minded statement. Every place is different due to its own individual persona and culture (or lack of)
This is probably the best response. I swear people don’t research before they come here. Pretty evident there is no scenery if you looked into it. All the places I’ve moved, I’ve Google street viewed, and did extensive research so I knew what I was heading in to.
Right? 😂 I'm Googling any place I haven't been before and don't know anything about. I'm even on Google Maps and Google Earth looking at 3D satellite views and reviews on places. I don't know wtf they're doing in that thread except complaining.
I always assume people who hate Dallas live in a satellite commuter town with no parks, entertainment or unique restaurants. Just chains and strip malls as far as the eye can see. Sure, I hate the state politics and the way HP and the like act about everything, but overall I enjoy living here.
Such dumb takes all around. I am from Houston. And wife is from nyc. We love it. We have friends from California who love it here.
Dallas is a place to raise a family. You can be with your kids in a friendly neighborhood year round. It’s one of the sunniest (and therefore happiest) in the country and is the sunniest in Texas. You have 5 flights a day to Denver or LA or Hawaii if you want to get your sunshine on a long weekend. You have a 40min flight to Austin or a fun 2.5 hr ride with bbq and Czech stop if you want more scenic stuff. Same to Houston if you want to mix it up. You have excellent private and elementary schools here even in dallas isd (Lakewood, withers, mockingbird to name a few). If you can’t live in HPSD for middle school, just add some time to your commute and you have top notch schools with elite athletics within 15 min (eg plano, frisco, Allen, Southlake, coppell, rockwall).
This is a sparkling clean city compared to others in Texas and in the country with similar populations. Our shopping centers are your mountains and they are sparkling clean with fun vibrant restaurants that do transplant me to years in NYC and LA.
If you need scenic stuff 24:7 (eg need to surf, etc) and don’t just enjoy walking in your sunny tree lined neighborhood then it’s not for you. But if you want to grow a business or work a full 9-6 to raise a family there are few better places.
If you don’t go outside to ski or mtn hike or surf daily elsewhere when you move, then you should probably shut up. If so, your social life is in restaurants and bars - our bars and restaurants are literally modeled off of LA and NYC. If I blindfolded you for 24 hrs and stuck you in a restaurant you’d have no idea if you were here or NYC.
Of course, if you came here not researching the flat lands or expecting southern cypress trees or expecting a vibrant NYC like downtown, you didn’t do your research and likely do not have the work ethic or the financial success to afford a living standard that you are happy with. And you blame the city you’re in and not yourself! I feel bad for you!
Agree. But that includes commute time. Unfortunately with work from home ending here and across the country, traffic is getting worse. I bought my house with a 13-16 min commute now it’s almost doubled by 2025.
I really think it should be the city motto. “Don’t visit, live” or something similar. The tourism here sucks, you go check out dealy plaza for 45 minutes, then maybe the aquarium/ross Perot. It’s a 1 day tourist town and not worth the travel time, but living here, it provides all the amenities needed to live a happy life. People like to hate on the lack of walkability/public transit, but the city has been actively working on it for more than a decade. Downtown/victory park/uptown/west village are all completely walkable and connected to each other by the McKinney street trolley (that is actually nice and not scary to ride) and the Katy Trail. None of that existed 25 years ago.
I've always said that. We have very good things like museums, restaurants, culture, theme parks, but just not the best. We have access to an international airport that can fly direct to most places in the world. Most big touring acts make it here eventually. We're a top 5 TV market and one of the 5 biggest metro areas in the country. If there is a thing that was popular in NYC or LA two years ago, rest assured we will have access to it.
But unless you are visiting someone you know who lives here, maybe go to one of the other cities for vacation.
It’s Reddit brother, anything Texas related is gonna get a shit ton of hate. Do yourself favor and ignore it, most of the users are very left leaning and work overtime at the hive mind.
As a left leaning person, I 100% agree about the weird canned responses other left leaning people give about Texas. It’s super disingenuous and is why we’re in the current political state.
I’ve lived in Dallas my entire life. There have been times that I’ve loved it, but mostly, I’d rather be anywhere else than here. Why? Dallas has never had any real identity. The city leaders are always studying ( ie going in expensive trips) other places to look at the way they do things, come back with ideas, spend a lot more money to copy those things, then it all falls apart because those people leave office, and the new people don’t support those projects and have a different “ vision” for the city. When the city builds something, such as those signature bridges we were supposed to get, they compromise on costs, change designs, and pretty much screw them up. Dallas does not appreciate history and will tear anything down at the drop of a developer’s hat, rather than preserve anything. They pumped a bunch of money into an “Arts District”, spent several million dollars promoting Dallas as the “City of the Arts” then decided to go in a different direction. They now have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to spend anything to maintain the Arts District, Fair Park, and the Kalita Humphreys theatre ( Frank Lloyd Wright). Deep Ellum, West End, the Dallas Underground- they’ve ruined them all with their short-sighted decisions. It’s as if the city suffers from ADHD and cannot focus on anything, even when it effects public health and safety. Dallas endlessly flounders to create an identity, but never really gets beyond a dead president and a football team.
I dunno, I lived for years in Seattle and also spend a good chunk of the year in Madrid (both world class cities) and love to travel. I still love Dallas. No, it’s not appealing to a tourist but it’s a nice relaxing place to live and work and study, and the weather is decent 9 months of the year and the other 3 months we have central air, swimming pools, and frozen margaritas.
Welp good thing I have lived here 20 years and just bought a house in Dallas. Also, let’s remember Dallas people don’t like non Dallas people because they are very close minded.
every time an adult excitedly tells me about their backyard project or a new chain restaurant and/or grocery store coming to a suburb near you, I die a little inside….
bored suburban millennial men are doing the same yard projects and insisting upon explaining it to their friends & coworkers in a step by step fashion that takes up 30 minutes you’re never getting back lol…it’s harmless
I mean, our city is relatively boring especially for activities outdoors. The old adage in Dallas is you have to have enough money to eat and drink and it ispretty accurate. We have great food and spots to drink.
My husband and I have had this conversation at length. I grew up here and stayed. He moved cities for work multiple times, and has friends in various cities, mostly people who are transplants.
We are jealous of each other. I wish I had the experience of finding myself in a new city. He wishes he had the opportunity to forge lifelong friendships and see those people regularly.
In general, I think if people are unhappy where they live they are missing a community. I have friends here with memories of 20+ years of friendship. Although Dallas misses the mark culturally in some ways, I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
That sub is a west coast circle jerk. Try saying anything bad about the PNW quality of living and they’ll pounce on you like feral dogs frothing at the mouth.
I got banned from commenting on r/Texas for trolling. Can't remember what it was but I think it might have been for pointing out that porn isn't banned in Texas in a sarcastic manner lol.
There is literally nothing special about Dallas. You could move it to any part of the country and it would probably fit in. The food is very average for a big city. Not to mention it’s completely centered around working a 9-5 and then spending your weekends either shopping or drinking. The cultural is insanely weak. The one nice thing is financial opportunity but outside that this place is vastly different from your LA, Chicago, and NYC.
Hating Dallas or TX for that matter based on politics then okay. But hating it for it's lack of "nature" is just weird energy, I mean are we to build a mountain or something? Just love if you love nature that bad.
That thread was full of childless adults. DFW is consistently one of the top places to raise a family. Some people prioritize the beach, the ones in Dallas have prioritized a steady income, a house big enough to accommodate multiple kids, and a culture of normal people.
As someone who lived in South Carolina (Myrtle Beach) then moved to Dallas... And when I moved here I was weirded out about a city wanting to escape its downtown instead of making the downtown lively again, I mainly hate Dallas because I can't find a New York styled pizza anywhere though...
That’s a lot of major sports teams, San Francisco 49ers actually play in Santa Ana, NY Jets and Giants practically play in a whole other state that’s not uniquely the cowboys.
Since when do we have an "inferiority complex" with Los Angeles?
Can't even remember the last time I thought about El-Ay (a lá Letterkenny) and if it wasn't for the awful wildfires out there, it wouldn't be on our minds.
Good God: Irvine, CA. It’s the first place I moved to after college while I waited for my boyfriend to graduate. Every damn blade of grass pre-planned within a millimeter. It’s only saving grace was the small airport that was easy to get in/out of and the Asian restaurants/stores.
I’m LA native and moved here a couple of weeks ago, I’m loving it so far. My rent almost cut in half and I’m actually in a luxury apartment while I get paid more working for Honda 😂
I moved here three years ago from NYC and agree. Dallas has all of the negatives of a big city without many of the positives. I like that it’s fairly inexpensive. The shopping is decent. Everything else is OK.
I moved here five years ago from NYC. I've found, and populated my life with, literally everything I enjoyed in Manhattan -- except, admittedly, for a really good jazz club and a really good Malaysian restaurant, but Manhattan has no good country music and no good Tex-Mex. Not exaggerating -- there is not one other thing missing, including arts, walkability, energy, all of it. If you think that Dallas lacks the positives of a big city, respectfully my fellow former New Yorker, you aren't looking hard enough. That's the real difference -- here you have to put in a little more effort, but not a lot more, and if you do you'll find pretty much whatever it is you want.
NYC to Dallas or NYC to any other US city test isn’t comparable imo. It’s just different leagues. I would challenge your statement that Dallas has everything, as well. NYC has public transportation, walking, world class art and a lot of it, a vast variety of restaurants, variety of neighborhoods, multi-cultural, famous landmarks everywhere, Christmas time decorations, tap water you can drink and an energy that draws the brightest talent from around the globe in multiple industries. The list goes on. Broadway! And really crazy rent for a small apartment.
I lived in Manhattan for 20 years, and I stand by what I said -- yes, NYC has moreof everything, but it is also true that Dallas has the same scope of everything. And I don't need and in NYC did not partake in every available instance of everything. One or two or three of everything does me just fine. (And while I won't go through the entire list, I do want to point out in particular that Dallas is entirely as multi-cultural as NYC -- again, you have to get out and engage, but the entire world is indeed right here in Dallas, just as it is in NYC.) Otherwise put, oh yes, Dallas is in NYC's league. Dallas just hasn't realized it yet.
walkability? really? lol not at all. you can walk for 6 hours in NYC and never get bored. I live in one of the most "walkable" areas of dallas and it's not even remotely comparable.
Well, yes, I suppose if you want to walk for 6 hours, then there'll be a marginal difference. Now, to be clear, if it had ever occurred to me to walk for 6 hours in Manhattan, I'm pretty sure that I'd have been bored long before the 6-hour mark. And walking for 6 hours in Brooklyn or Queens (much less Staten Island or the Bronx) would get boring even quicker. And I doubt whether you often went walking for hours on end in Manhattan, either, if for no other reason than that it would be a terrible waste of any 6 hours in Manhattan (or Dallas), and while I don't know I suspect that you might have had a job.
And for my own part here in Dallas, I walk to work, and walk to restaurants and culture and nightlife, and walk to the park and the gym. And I get to drive my truck, too, which is of course not a real option if you live in Manhattan.
You are however at liberty to ignore everything about Dallas that you wish to ignore, and to feel entirely as meh as you wish to feel.
I’ve met many people in my mid to late twenties who moved here and then quickly moved away a couple years later. I don’t understand and don’t care to understand, but just always felt those people were weak minded and inflexible. To those people I say, GTFO and stop taking up space. As a born and raised Texan, I love Dallas.
lol most of the people moving here are from impoverished red states that come from shit holes like Pine bluff Arkansas 😂. Like bro, ain’t way Dallas is worst than whatever shit hole you’re coming from.
I get it if you’re a true beach or mountain person like you’d do that every weekend, maybe go somewhere else.
But if you all you’ll do in LA or nyc is restaurants, we have the same vibes here in ours as “top” cities even if the food isn’t “top” (though if I blindfolded someone who though they were in ny they wouldn’t know the difference). I lived in nyc for far longer than most of these commenters have lived here.
Can’t golf or tennis in nyc or Chicago like you do here! Or sun bathe! We have more sun than you, sorry!
DFW is a great place to raise a family, I would imagine the average Reddit user probably not raising a family. So it makes sense a lot of them would hate DFW.
I've lived in this gd city over 30 years. I grew up in Europe and never thought i would be one to move to a city and stay, especially one as pointless as Dallas. But I've started my own business, I have some really cool clients, and they're in the Metroplex, so I'm stuck here. Oh well, that's why I travel and have other properties. Fucking Dallas.
I’ve lived in Dallas 35 years, and while I like living here, many of the complaints on that post make sense. I think we can be clear-minded in recognizing both pros and cons of wherever we live.
I’m in the wrong. I literally shared the same opinions as the very two top comments and I’ve lived in Dallas for more than 20 years and moved away two years ago.
If you read through, there are people with issues with a lot of cities. The liberal talking points about Texas are nauseating and uneducated. Dallas is a place to work, it isn’t pretty terrain but you can make a good living
I don’t love Dallas four years in, but I’ve grown to at least not fully hate it. Some of it is that I’m making more friends and building a stronger community. I found too that a lot of the adjustment process is just finding the part of the city you like and getting to know it so you can feel like home there. And some of it is just realizing that it’s human to find change difficult and moving to DFW is a big change for a lot of people.
A lot of people live in a suburb that they aren’t jazzed about, the cost of living is high compared to where they moved from, or they spend most of their time commuting and working. I’d hate anywhere that I only sat in traffic and worked in.
cryptochimping@reddit
Been here over six years. Live in McKinney, commute to Dallas on 75. That experience alone would make anyone want to gtfoh. Honestly though, I just feel Dallas is very plastic & fake. Too many wannabes flaunting material wealth like cars & watches & augmented bleach blonde girlfriends or trophy wives with no real pot to piss in. Don't even get me started with the delusional Cowboys fans & their vitriolic fan base. It also lacks a bit of charm & welcome that I've gotten from other places I've lived. I do enjoy my job & the opportunity it has provided me & my family, so I just don't bother to worry about the other things...except for my 75 commute. Just my 2 cents.
captain_uranus@reddit
Any reason you stay in McKinney if you work in downtown? Just sounds like a poor choice of residence, especially since 75 is probably what I’d consider the most consistently, congested highway in the whole metroplex.
cryptochimping@reddit
My wife's job. She's works in McKinney. She prefers the burbs. I just take one for the team everyday. It's what dad's do. 🤷♂️
captain_uranus@reddit
That’s tough.
But I do agree with other commentators, it’s the people who live in the far outlying suburbs and exurbs that have the loudest complaints.
Furrealyo@reddit
They heard it was cheap.
Got here and found out it’s not.
captain_uranus@reddit
They did become their problem, nothing good comes out of a mass migration of people inundating an area of population for years consecutively.
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Relatively speaking it can be cheap. My old apartment here was literally under $1/sqft when I first moved in 8 years back. It was enormous, people with a roommate and half the sq/ft in NYC paid more than I did. It's a major city with people constantly moving in so of course it's not cheap relative to all US cities. LA, NYC, SF, DMV, Boston, Miami, San Diego, Seattle, Providence, all these cities are certainly more expensive in terms of housing, groceries, and especially food and alcohol at bars/restaurants.
Dallas is a cheaper city, not a cheap city.
Whizzleteets@reddit
I mean yeah.
azzers214@reddit
Keep in mind a huge amount of people have been compelled to move here by businesses against their wishes. Dallas has always been a working person's town, but you have a non-trivial part of that influx primed to hate it from the jump.
Dallas has always been a bit of a pinata because it's a Prairie town which means no mountans, no oceans, descriptor, and extreme weather. It actually has a healthy output of art and artists but they're usually coopted by Austin or people forget they were DFW people. People who actually like Dallas tend to know where to see these people. People who wish they were in New York, Denver, LA, Chicago, etc., don't bother.
halfuser10@reddit
This. Big prairie land = “zzz boo I hate it here. Y no fun”
Effroy@reddit
I think it's more than that. I moved here last spring from Iowa and I'm already making plans to move back. That's reasonably mild weather, populated prairie, to cold af, barren nothingness prairie.
This place sucks for a lot of reasons.
dj26458@reddit
I’m sorry, what? What part of Iowa has better weather than Dallas?
the_BoneChurch@reddit
Dallas weather is the worst I have experienced honestly. You get oppressive shit summer and horrible air quality from June to November, then everything dies, and it is "winter" but ugly, one week of hell level allergies and back to oppressive hell summer.
I personally think the midwestern weather is great. Seasons, summers are amazing, winter is beautiful, and you get these prolonged falls and springs that seem to last forever.
I've never experienced Iowa weather but I'm sure it is similar to other Midwestern states.
dj26458@reddit
Glossed over midwestern winters
the_BoneChurch@reddit
Midwestern winter lasts from Thanksgiving to early March and can be fairly mild. I'm sure in the northern midwest it is longer, but they still have actual seasons. They can also be extremely beautiful. It beats the hell out of 100 degrees from late June to October.
dj26458@reddit
Also I swam in my outdoor swimming pool in November. I’m fine here.
the_BoneChurch@reddit
I would hope so. It was probably 125 out that day.
theoriginalmofocus@reddit
Dude the ice cream truck was out making rounds yesterday in my neighborhood.
the_BoneChurch@reddit
You guys are coping hard. LOL. It is 47 where I'm at today and you have a low of 21 and snow in your forecast on Tuesday.
theoriginalmofocus@reddit
We just had slush and snow on the road. It hits 60 and this guy rolls out ha.
dj26458@reddit
Northerners trying to spin that like it’s a bad thing.
the_BoneChurch@reddit
Might want to check your forecast. It is gonna be colder there than in some parts of the Midwest in the middle of next week.
dj26458@reddit
Chicago famously has only 2 seasons: winter and construction.
RioRozayy@reddit
Not true at all Chicago has a beautiful summer with many events and concerts downtown. One of the most historical cities
the_BoneChurch@reddit
Chicago is one of the most beautiful cities in the country and has wonderful seasons. I would say that Chicago has some of the best summer weather in the country and definitely one of the best public transportation systems. The food, the lake, the history... If there is one thing Dallas cannot due, it is throw shade at other large cities. Particularly Chicago.
I don't live in Chicago, but I visit a lot. Lived in Dallas for 8 years... it ain't even close bro.
dj26458@reddit
Buddy, I lived in Chicago for 15 years. I can throw shade on Chicago “seasons.” You apparently never had school/work closed for cold. Not even snow, just that’s it’s dangerously cold.
the_BoneChurch@reddit
You're saying that they closed your work, in Chicago, Illinois, from temperature? LOL.
Are you actually trying to day that Dallas is a better city that the City of Chicago?
throwawaygiusto1@reddit
I grew up in Dallas and moved to the Midwest for grad school. I didn’t mind the cold as much as the lack of sunlight, which lasted for months. My mood improved immediately when I moved to a sunnier state after graduation.
the_BoneChurch@reddit
That's not true throughout the Midwest though. If you're referencing cloud cover. I mean we have shorter days in winter but not by that much. I lived in Dallas for 8 years and grew to absolutely hate the heat.
Eeeeeley@reddit
And lots of allergies...
Prestigious_Stage699@reddit
I can't imagine hating myself enough to willingly move to Iowa. A shit hole of a state I'll be happy to never go back to.
Dick_Lazer@reddit
And then you realize you live in Texas.
Prestigious_Stage699@reddit
My guy, if you think Texas is worse than Iowa I have an intergalactic bridge to sell you.
SleeplessInPlano@reddit
Make sure you get funding through the Intergalactic Banking Clan.
masta@reddit
The Vogon hyperspace turnpike investment corporation.
sinedolo@reddit
Beat me to it. I’m all out of terrestrial bridges to offer here.
hysterical_useless@reddit
One of the worst things about Dallas, and Texas in general is the complete lack of workers rights. This state is a shit hole for working class people
Fastgirl600@reddit
Not to mention human rights
MidCenturyDog@reddit
dumb take
Acquista23@reddit
let’s hear a few from your 1yr of living here!
InternalOpinion5410@reddit
I left Williamsburg Iowa in 2010, my wife and I make at least double what similar jobs in Iowa pay and the cost of living is roughly the same. We live on 6 acres in Kaufman County 1000SF house and pay 1800 per year in property taxes.
Pabi_tx@reddit
Downside is you live in Kaufman County.
Iblis_Ginjo@reddit
Lost me at Iowa…
jesuisunvampir@reddit
A lot of people stink here
maldrasen@reddit
It's also fucking hot. I feel forced to stay indoors for eight months or so out of the year.
TilTheDaybreak@reddit
I moved to dallas originally for university and then a couple years following. It was an absolute blast. Loved the city.
Moved away for career. Found my way back here 9 years later. It's a dull place.
Having a decent job, disposable income, living the young single dream was what was fun...not the city.
Of course any city is what you make it. Dallas has a great arts scene, nice unique areas (some becoming a caricature of itself, like others do. see: Austin). There's tons of family-friendly activities and lots of options. But when you compare it to places with natural beauty or better public spaces/parks, or public transport....yes you can't get everything in one city....but plenty of cities do more of them better than Dallas does. Dallas has all of the concrete jungle of Los Angeles without the upsides. It has the traffic of Seattle without the waterways and beautiful mountains.
chazthetic@reddit
I've lived in Florida, Philly, NYC, New Jersey, Austin, and Dallas and spent most of 2017 in San Francisco.
We moved back to Dallas for the high QUALITY of living and low COST of living.
Is it perfect? No. We miss NY/NJ and access to culture there. Austin was awesome. All of them are stupid expensive, and when we looked at the tradeoffs, we realized we could live in Dallas and visit those places for the same cost of living there. Yes we miss outdoorsy stuff, but is it a deal breaker? No.
I'm also a car guy and make car content. The car scene here is great
_ze@reddit
I'm glad you mentioned the art culture in and around Dallas. I am always proud of how Dallas is represented through our local musicians, actors, and artists, as well as how many of those same artists invest back into the city.
custardisnotfood@reddit
As someone who’s into local music I’ve actually found Dallas to be better for stuff like that when compared to somewhere like Nashville or Austin because there’s still stuff happening but it’s not overrun by tourists
matorin57@reddit
??? Austin has plenty of venues that arent overrun by tourists? Did you only check out dirty 6th?
bookingly@reddit
Yeah I think if metal or punk is your jam Dallas surprisingly has a lot going on for that as I can tell. For more typical rock or indie rock shows, which I personally prefer, Austin seems to have that in spades
dallascowboys93@reddit
This is an overlooked pro for living here. Not a lot of tourism is excellent
FunnyGamer97@reddit
Dallas is just a giant smorgasbord of poverty, the working class and not much else. People bored out their minds shoving consumerism down their throats hoping it’ll make them happy.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
You nailed it. It’s why I travel out of here as much as I can.
ChicagoRay312@reddit
This is a fantastic explanation. Signed, a transplant.
Xidig6@reddit
It’s not against their wishes. If my job told me that I need to relocate to a different state, I would find another job locally.
They were the ones who hauled their stuff here, signed a lease for their homes, brought their families here, and willingly chose to follow their jobs.
f_cacti@reddit
Hey found the person that doesn’t work at a job that’s highly in demand.
HeavyVoid8@reddit
Hell yeah bro, roasted them with the double negative
f_cacti@reddit
Yea i was too lazy to rewrite its early
arlenroy@reddit
Buddy, if you think "just finding a job locally" is that easy then I'm jealous of how effortless your life has been. There's a good amount of people who move because of their employer, usually said employer pays all incurred costs associated with the move, and gives them a stipend for everyday items during the move. In some cases temporary housing is set up, along with a rental vehicle, trying to make it as painless as possible. However, that still depends on the company.
If you're an employee with a relatively good company, financially the compensation is good, and your higher ups are decent people to work for, you're probably going to really think hard about leaving that company. It's a god damn chapter of Hunger Games out there, finding the right employer, with the right position, a place you can comfortably say to yourself "I can do this until I retire or die" is pretty fucking difficult. Therefore if a company checks all those boxes for you, odds are you'll go with them if the price is right. Because security is priceless in life. You can not put any price on a sense of feeling secure in life, at the workplace. But again you can just fund something locally, not all people are as fortunate as you.
Xidig6@reddit
So they decide to willingly stay at their jobs for comfort, pay, and other reasons. That doesn’t sound like something against their wishes? You have 49 different states to choose from and a plethora of different cities with thousands of job opportunities. Why choose to stay in DFW if you don’t like it?
They’re privileged to even have a job that is willing to pay for relocation and has a good salary. That is something many Americans don’t have the privilege of.
I’m not going to sit here and make excuses/feel pity for privileged middle to upper middle class individuals who willingly make choices to move to a city they apparently dislike for job security.
Alcoholic720@reddit
When I first moved to Dallas I worked on a project for GTE (yes long time ago). They were about to merge with Bell South or someone (Verizon now I believe).
The people at that Irving building that exactly mirrored Initech (Office Space). They were angry and miserable people. I couldn't figure it out until I found out they were offered to move or get laid off.
I was like, it can't be that bad.
Then a few months later I was on a project in their old building in Thousand Oaks, CA (was in the movie My Stepmother is an Alien) working where they formerly sat. I don't know what could make someone make that move other than a huge retirement plan or longevity but I really got their anger and sadness.
It was the 90s though and IT was booming, I would have just quit.
Zeal-A-Saurus@reddit
Atlanta.
MikeyThaKid@reddit
Dallas is whack. It’s basically Texas’ butthole. Big, loose, dirty, with lots of less fortunate inside it. I’ve never lived in a city where you can clearly see the parity between rich and poor. This is a town for snooty rich folks. Definitely nothing southern about this city. Very tragic. Very sad.
IAmSoUncomfortable@reddit
I implore you to show me a town where you can’t see the parity between rich and poor.
MikeyThaKid@reddit
There are no such cities, but the parity in DFW is so drastic that it’s actually really sad.
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
The word you're looking for is "disparity." Parity would actually be very little gulf between the rich and the poor.
MikeyThaKid@reddit
Shit I knew it sounded funny when I typed it.
Total-Lecture2888@reddit
Your jaw would fall off going into LA.
MikeyThaKid@reddit
I’ve been there too and it’s pretty gross. I felt so claustrophobic in a giant city. It was odd. Def overrated.
IAmSoUncomfortable@reddit
I agree that it’s sad but I’ve never lived anywhere where it wasn’t so. And I’ve lived in a lot of places!
DrDroDroid@reddit
you gotta be from Houston lol
KingOfConsciousness@reddit
Good can they all leave then I miss being able to get around from 11a-3p
Xidig6@reddit
It’s feels like rush hour traffic starts at 12pm and doesn’t end until midnight now.
El_Senate@reddit
It's a bunch of socially isolated commuters complaining in that thread.
Well, yeah, any city would suck if you spend several hours driving and don't have friends. DFW is not unique in that regard. It just doesn't have immediately obvious redeeming qualities like the Nashville music scene, NYC restaurants and culture, or Miami beaches. You can find stuff like that in DFW but it takes longer.
Dallas is overhated. Way overhated.
Kittensonparade84@reddit
Dallas is where I grew up. I moved to Austin almost 15 years ago...had fun at first, but it quickly became a cesspool of lame. The only thing I miss there is the woods, but the Greenbelt is dry and trashed more and more. Dallas is lovely when you come back after so long and realize you still have so many friends still here. I moved back to Dallas this last year and couldn't be happier. But, it does depend if you have family and friends here. It's pretty cliquish, so newcomers...I get why you don't like it. Also, it definitely depends on what part of town you live in. Some areas would make me despise living here If I lived there.
getting_older_1111@reddit
I moved from DFW to CTX 6 years ago and still miss it
DrDroDroid@reddit
CTX? where's that?
getting_older_1111@reddit
Central Texas. Austin area
DrDroDroid@reddit
I think DFW is the best place to live in Texas, but nowhere as good as Northeast states or CA or Colorado
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Just depends what you want. The NE states are very expensive, also where you live in the NE, and which state, is so vastly different I'm not sure what you're picturing, there's plenty of stripmall shitholes to live in around New England. CA has some of the best nature in the country, but it's also wildly expensive and cities like LA and SF make Dallas' homeless issue look non-existant, among other problems.
DFW is one of the best places to raise a family imo. Which for a lot of us is paramount, more so than year round pleasant weather or easy access to skiing.
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Hot tip, the old fish hatchery on White Rock is a hidden gem if you live near the lake. It's really not that big, but the trails criss cross and much of it is very dense, also no map, no signs so you just wander around back there. Really pleasant, only sounds you here in there are nature, not big enough to hike for an afternoon or anything but perfect to just walk in nature after work. Just be cautious in warmer months for ticks.
Idk about cliqish in the sense groups don't expand. I grew up here, moved for school then work, and returned. Most of my friends returned as well. The core group's known each other 15+ years, we fold in people all the time who are transplants.
Rockastanski@reddit
Totally agree with your take! I grew up in DFW. Moved away in 2013. Came back in July last year and couldn’t be happier. Just like every city, It has its moments that make it kind of lame but parts of Dallas is so great. I won’t get into all the details, but I appreciate it more after I’ve been away from it so long.
Street_Celery2745@reddit
FWIW not from here and have two friend couples we socialize with. None from here. All adore this city and its charm. And it’s sunlight.
virtualvogue@reddit
Honestly, they can keep hating on Dallas so people are less inclined to move here 😂
DizzyDentist22@reddit
That subreddit basically just shits on everywhere that isn't coastal California, the Northeast Corridor or Chicago. It's full of delusional chronically online people who expect to find a place with perfect weather, great urbanism, and beautiful scenery, without realizing that that's exactly what everyone else wants as well and that's why those few areas that exist are so expensive. Nobody there wants to live in a red state either and hardly anybody there ever asks about moving for job/career reasons - which is like, THE reason why you would move to Dallas lol.
anonMuscleKitten@reddit
See, the problem is, Dallas has become as expensive as Chicago, but we don’t get any of the urban benefits.
Internal_Kitchen_268@reddit
Exactly! I feel Dallas hit the sweet spot in the 2010s as the city itself made some decent strides but was still reasonably priced. Now it feels stagnant with a much higher COL. I know this is all subjective but for me anyways, I feel Dallas just doesn’t offer much value anymore. Austin is the same way.
No-Agent5389@reddit
It’s amazing for career and business. Horrible for everything else.
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Horrible is so dramatic. Some of y'all just seem lonely and bored. Make friends and go to Deep Ellum, float on White Rock with a cooler and some joints, just do something besides sitting inside.
DeepYogurtcloset3235@reddit
No one’s floating on White Rock, unless you meant in a sailboat or with your rowing crew or something. If only we could actually swim or take some inner tubes in that feces runoff. Le sigh.
Expensive_Heron9851@reddit
Not really. There are plenty of entertainment districts and new additions to the city every single year. If u cant find decent nightlife or museums then that is entirely on you.
Semibluewater@reddit
I found the museums to be so underwhelming for a city of this size. The entertainment districts as well are just a few blocks of bars. Didn’t really compare to what other big cities offer. Sorry that’s just how it feels. Every person I talk to in real life feels the same way
Arkhamguy123@reddit
Facts
No-Agent5389@reddit
Been there done that. I’ve traveled to many places and international. Dallas is the most boring city I’ve ever been to.
Arkhamguy123@reddit
100% correct
Source: born and raised here
Arkhamguy123@reddit
No shit, it sucks. Awful weather. Zero nature or scenery. Fake elitist shallow corporate zombie population.
I mean nobody travels here for the adventure like NYC or Paris or something. It’s almost always just for business or job offers
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Imagine complaining your city isn't an international tourist destination like NYC or Paris. Most cities are not global tourist hubs chief.
Arkhamguy123@reddit
Imagine being so obtuse you don’t see it’s not about being a tourist hub and about being a city with an iota of adventure, culture, and diversity
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Lmao the point is those cities, Paris esp, have a ton of culture and 'adventure' and that's why they are global tourist hubs. The two are connected, duh. You picked some of the most famous cities on the planet with culture that 95% of cities worldwide cannot hold a candle to. I'm making fun of your standards based on the examples you gave, chief. I'm sure you can figure it out.
Arkhamguy123@reddit
Are you challenged? That’s literally the worst argument I’ve ever heard lmao. I mean, to be expected from someone simping for Dallas but goddamn dude. What is this chicken and the egg childish logic.
“lol ya see, those cities only have tons of people coming to see them because they’re culturally rich and packed with things to do and fun and adventurous and some of the best examples of a city psh that’s all! If not for those things they would’ve be so popular!” Like yeah. That’s my whole entire premise doofus. Thank you for supporting my argument?
Ferrari_McFly@reddit
Lol SameGrass is arguably a top 5 most delusional subreddit, but I love checking it out.
Majority in there are looking for SoCal weather, NYC public transit, SF walkability, and Colorado mountains/scenery…..all in one city
Internal_Kitchen_268@reddit
I know, right? Most of their criteria doesn’t even exist in the US lol. They need to expand their parameters to say the least.
StopHittingMeSasha@reddit
The way this isn't an exaggeration either. People on that sub are literally nuts
newusr1234@reddit
Sounds like most of Reddit. If that thread taught me anything it's that Redditors are just generally unhappy about almost everything and don't actually want a solution.
Outrageous_Row4567@reddit
Dreaming of their Xanadu is what gets them out of bed every morning, oh the human condition!
Barfignugen@reddit
I can’t tell what the theme of this sub is. There’s no description
SxySale@reddit
Going through it quickly it looks like a sub for getting info on different parts of the country to potentially move to.
nonnativetexan@reddit
Yes, but only to places that have mountains, oceans, and forests, with walkable towns where no cars are allowed, wewith 65 degree weather year round, and rent is $500 e month
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
I think a few of the world's major religions have that in their afterlife.
Quantibro@reddit
I am hopelessly addicted to reading the batshit stuff posted in that sub
nonnativetexan@reddit
Oh same. Cracks me up how everyone describes moving to a new town as "escaping." So much hyperbole.
custardisnotfood@reddit
Me too, it’s like watching a car crash in slow motion. I hate it but I can’t look away
SameSadMan@reddit
Yeah, it’s one of the bigger fart-sniffing subs I’ve seen
SleeplessInPlano@reddit
They have it in Cocomelon.
earthworm_fan@reddit
They hate us cause they anus
SameSadMan@reddit
The anus?!
riceu@reddit
Heavy Metal 🤘
KingOfConsciousness@reddit
https://youtu.be/dZl347vlnig?si=HW-Z20xhwgRgo2br
Darth_Jason@reddit
There is no way that’s a word.
Outrageous_Row4567@reddit
It is now!
Pabi_tx@reddit
Back off that precipice my man.
Wonberger@reddit
Hell, I feel like most of the people in this subreddit hate Dallas lol
SxySale@reddit
I just wish we had cooler summers is all. Nothing over 100 and I'll be happy.
ElGranQuesoRojo@reddit
You fool! You just cursed us w/120 straight days of 99° weather!!!
sgslayer@reddit
Better than the (what felt like) 60 straight days of 110° in 2023 haha
HeavyVoid8@reddit
You weren't there for the bad one then
Froggie56@reddit
The bad one? Is that supposed to be 2011? Or the one in the 80s? Cause 23 sucked almost as much as 11. I can’t speak for the 80s cause I wasn’t around for that.
MitchellTrueTittys@reddit
What was summer like in ‘11 and ‘80’s?
Froggie56@reddit
Like I said. I wasn’t born in the 80s. But 2011 was the most comparable summer to 2023 with 100 days of 100+ degree temperatures in my hometown. So actually a little bit worse than 2023.
MitchellTrueTittys@reddit
Jesus. 100 straight days
Froggie56@reddit
100 total. The longest streak was only 28 days in my area before we would have like a 99 degree day before then going right back to 100
MitchellTrueTittys@reddit
Oh okay I see. Didn’t we have a summer recently that had like 50-70 straight days of 100+? Maybe that was 2023? Maybe I’m tripping?
Froggie56@reddit
Looks like there were 55 days over 100 last year in DFW, but only 21 of those days were consecutive. I do know it was like the second or third most days over 105 last year in DFW
littlebev@reddit
this was my breaking point - I moved in Sept of 23 and haven't looked back (and I am a Dallas native)
treat_27@reddit
That’s my one major problem with Dfw. I can from cali 3 years ago. Summer is a killer. I had to get a pool to compensate when I am home.
WeirdPiccolo9749@reddit
That’s a drag…
I wish I could put a pool in at my house. I wish I had a house too. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
cantfindmykeys@reddit
I know I'm the odd one out but the summers don't bother me. It's the winters that can't decide what they want to do
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
Nah, you're not the odd one. If you go to White Rock in the heat of summer, there's still plenty of people out and about. People are just dramatic as fuck on reddit
the_BoneChurch@reddit
Worst thing about Dallas winter is that everything just dies, and you don't get any of the winter beauty.
I guess everything dies in summer too though! LOL
dirtt_dawg@reddit
I generally don't mind the heat but I am an incessant sweater. I look outside the window wrong and beads start forming. My wife keeps telling me to bring it up with my gp at next annual
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
hell even days like today or yesterday are kind of annoying. parka in the morning, light jacket by noon
the_BoneChurch@reddit
It would be nice if it didn't last 9 months too.
Alcoholic720@reddit
Heat, less insane drivers, lower cost of living (it's gone up a shitload the last decade+).
OriginalGeoff@reddit
You can’t hate our city. Only we can hate our city!
Appropriate-Fold-485@reddit
Nah it's the winters that are trash. Summer is pure bliss.
kidleviathan@reddit
It's one of those "nobody picks on my little brother except me" kinda things Criticizing and hating Dallas is a huge part of being from/living in Dallas.
dallascowboys93@reddit
Nah, it’s just Reddit being Reddit. A lot of cynical pessimism
stickbreak_arrowmake@reddit
Make Dallas a dangerous mob-controlled gambler's paradise Again
B_U_F_U@reddit
Guilty
pradafever@reddit
A majority of those Dallas-responses were people who moved to the suburbs, from what I can tell. They all discuss how much they hated moving out to the suburbs around Dallas. I can’t expect to move to a small car-dependent suburb on the outskirts of Atlanta and then go posting about how the city of Atlanta is boring, stale and sprawling. It’s just silly.
If any of them had moved into the thriving urban core of Dallas they’d have felt differently, I could literally ONLY see them disliking it if they’d come from a larger, denser and more alive city than Dallas, which is not many in the United States. NYC, Chicago, SanFran, and then MAYBE Atlanta, LA, Seattle, Portland, Miami but they’re on a more level playing field when it comes to the urban core.
itsVisuals@reddit
Nah, we’ve just lived elsewhere where the cities actually had culture. Live in Greenville area. It’s nice but there’s zero culture here. This is one of the most cookie cutter cities I’ve ever lived in. If it wasn’t for work, I’d dipped a while ago
pradafever@reddit
❤️okay
bshaddo@reddit
City OF Hate.
iPvtCaboose@reddit
I feel like if you’ve only ever lived in DFW: you’re not going to understand what I’m about to say.
Y’all live in a bubble.
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
As in what, DFW sucks and you have to leave to know? Lol I've lived all over NE and did 9 months in LA. DFW is a B+ city. A lotta folks miserable here don't understand 99% chance wherever they go, they won't magically stop being depressed.
Type-Lucky@reddit
Great, hope people stop moving here
LightsStayOnInFrisco@reddit
Oh, please. There were people in that thread shitting all over NYC for...reasons. Anyone who can't find something to do in each one of the top 20 metros in the US is just a miserable person forever chasing greener grass.
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
Agreed. They've all got their pros and cons, their charms and their frustrations. NYC, for instance. Great place. Could never afford it in my line of work though, and damn those winters are bitterly cold and dark.
littlebev@reddit
i live in nyc now and i played myself because last winter was pretty mild - this year has been quite the adjustment
but comfortably wearing a sweatshirt and shorts on my rooftop for 4th of july was a game changer
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
hah, i feel like summer there is a mix of somewhat mild pleasant days and nasty swampy heat. especially gross when the subway station is all dank and steamy
stupidgnomes@reddit
I’ve been here for three years no from KC and there are definitely things to really like about Dallas. Bishop Arts being one of them. I love the vibe. That said, man, I really wish Dallas would invest, or would have invested, more in restoring their older buildings instead of selling them to the highest bidder and letting them get torn down for overly priced office space or apartments/condos. There are bits and pieces of character in Dallas, but it mostly reminds me of the place you go if you want to hold a business conference or something.
And before someone chimes in and says “well, maybe you should have bought the building so it didn’t get torn down” like I’ve seen in countless other threads, cities can absolutely establish local preservation ordinances in order to protect old, historic homes and buildings. It just doesn’t seem like Dallas was ever interested in that, and it’s a bummer. Really sucks the life out of a city when its history gets largely erased by capitalism.
PaulieNutwalls@reddit
The hideous apartment buildings going up in Deep Ellum are so sad.
c03us@reddit
Actually, a good book called The Dallas Myth talks about Dallas's past and how it's almost in its \~100 year history to always tear down old building for new. Dallas as a culture has embraced the tear down and replace method. "new is always better"- Barney Stintson
the__poseidon@reddit
Good luck getting to Bishop Arts from uptown without a car
BanTrumpkins24@reddit
I ride my bike there, from Plano
Unlucky-Watercress30@reddit
There's literally a street car that goes from bishop to union, then the red, blue, or orange line to cityplace/Uptown subway station. There's also a bus route that runs parallel to the streetcar if you'd rather that. Literally very easy.
crestedgeckovivi@reddit
Lmao.
So like in the years around 2000? We were looking at houses. (My mom and me)
On Greenville Ave near like the Richardson / Dallas area there was a bunch of old houses etc. Really nice still. Well we toured one of them that was for sale next to a newly built house (aka the new eyesore that didn't match the rest of the block....)
During our tour a person popped in and asked if we had any additional questions etc. Turned out they were the owners and they lived next door in the eyesore house.
Iike I like new houses too but it really was out of place and the style of it was ugly to be honest lol.
A few years later the whole block was taken down anyways for like apartments or whatever is new over there.
stupidgnomes@reddit
God that is so sad. I’m with you, I think modern homes can be really cool, but I prefer older homes. They were just literally built different. Aesthetically, at least. That’s the one thing I really like about KC is that there has been a lot of thought and energy put into protecting older neighborhoods. That’s not to say they’re not experiencing gentrification, because they are, but even if you go downtown, it’s demonstrable that the city prides itself on its history first and foremost. And personally that’s my jam.
I haven’t spent a lot of time in Ft Worth, but I’ve heard it’s similar to KC in that regard.
RioRozayy@reddit
Why do everyone seem to hate Dallas here? I’ve been here for approximately 6 months and I love it. Yeah it’s flat, but there are many other places that are flat, especially the Midwest. Coming from a blue state (Chicago) to a red state the gun laws here are WAY better. A lot more freedom here. Dallas is also a major business hub where I’m able to thrive in multiple avenues. Also no state income tax. Not to mention Dallas has a lot less people compared to other huge metropolitan cities, which equals a lot less crime.
Seems everyone is just complaining about scenery and it being flat but not realizing you can be very successful here and there are so many opportunities.
Matthew6_19-22@reddit
Nah it’s just Reddit
Relative_Specific217@reddit
I mean reading this sub for five minutes would tell you that. A bunch of complainers
Glittering_Ticket347@reddit
They're just a bunch of chronically-online folks who complain about any place that isn't NorCal, NYC, Chicago or rural Virginia.
Going through the comments and you can tell that:
1.) Most of the ones complaining about Dallas don't actually live in Dallas, but one of our suburbs like Garland, Denton, etc. Even funnier when people correct them by telling them that they're not actually in the Dallas urban area. Like, do they expect a Friday night on the Vegas strip-type experience in Frisco or Plano? 😂 Suburbia life in general is the same EVERYWHERE in America: rows of brick houses and NPCs all over the place
2.) Most of them seem disgruntled because they were "forced" to move to Dallas (assuming because of job relocation or career pursuit) and didn't bother Googling the area. Dallas is a prairie city. The whole area is flat, the Trinity River only looks like a real river when it swells from heavy rain, there's no mountains, no lakes except White Rock Lake in a short distance from the Dallas urban area, no beaches, none of that. A simple Google search would show this. So why come to a "flat, cement" city expecting any of that and complain when you don't get that experience?
I'm a firm believer in the fact that you can have a good time no matter where you at and what you have if you're open-minded. Most of us probably aren't in the most ideal places in our lives, but we make the most of it. I grew up in a house without heat and running water as a kid but we found our joy where we could. I've been to Memphis, Albuquerque, Houston, Phoenix...made the most of each trip and enjoyed myself. Then again, I'm also introvert and love the little things in life so I'm only speaking from my own perspective.
Still, saying Dallas is "soulless" just because it doesn't have the same appeal of other cities due to geographic location, weather, personal experience is a pretty close-minded statement. Every place is different due to its own individual persona and culture (or lack of)
ItsYaGirlConfusion@reddit
This is probably the best response. I swear people don’t research before they come here. Pretty evident there is no scenery if you looked into it. All the places I’ve moved, I’ve Google street viewed, and did extensive research so I knew what I was heading in to.
Glittering_Ticket347@reddit
Right? 😂 I'm Googling any place I haven't been before and don't know anything about. I'm even on Google Maps and Google Earth looking at 3D satellite views and reviews on places. I don't know wtf they're doing in that thread except complaining.
SultanxPepper@reddit
I always assume people who hate Dallas live in a satellite commuter town with no parks, entertainment or unique restaurants. Just chains and strip malls as far as the eye can see. Sure, I hate the state politics and the way HP and the like act about everything, but overall I enjoy living here.
Street_Celery2745@reddit
Such dumb takes all around. I am from Houston. And wife is from nyc. We love it. We have friends from California who love it here.
Dallas is a place to raise a family. You can be with your kids in a friendly neighborhood year round. It’s one of the sunniest (and therefore happiest) in the country and is the sunniest in Texas. You have 5 flights a day to Denver or LA or Hawaii if you want to get your sunshine on a long weekend. You have a 40min flight to Austin or a fun 2.5 hr ride with bbq and Czech stop if you want more scenic stuff. Same to Houston if you want to mix it up. You have excellent private and elementary schools here even in dallas isd (Lakewood, withers, mockingbird to name a few). If you can’t live in HPSD for middle school, just add some time to your commute and you have top notch schools with elite athletics within 15 min (eg plano, frisco, Allen, Southlake, coppell, rockwall).
This is a sparkling clean city compared to others in Texas and in the country with similar populations. Our shopping centers are your mountains and they are sparkling clean with fun vibrant restaurants that do transplant me to years in NYC and LA.
If you need scenic stuff 24:7 (eg need to surf, etc) and don’t just enjoy walking in your sunny tree lined neighborhood then it’s not for you. But if you want to grow a business or work a full 9-6 to raise a family there are few better places.
If you don’t go outside to ski or mtn hike or surf daily elsewhere when you move, then you should probably shut up. If so, your social life is in restaurants and bars - our bars and restaurants are literally modeled off of LA and NYC. If I blindfolded you for 24 hrs and stuck you in a restaurant you’d have no idea if you were here or NYC.
Of course, if you came here not researching the flat lands or expecting southern cypress trees or expecting a vibrant NYC like downtown, you didn’t do your research and likely do not have the work ethic or the financial success to afford a living standard that you are happy with. And you blame the city you’re in and not yourself! I feel bad for you!
nihouma@reddit
When did it behind a 9-6? It was always a 9-5. Work isn't everything. We should be spending less of our lives working, not more
Street_Celery2745@reddit
Agree. But that includes commute time. Unfortunately with work from home ending here and across the country, traffic is getting worse. I bought my house with a 13-16 min commute now it’s almost doubled by 2025.
Lord-Cuervo@reddit
It’s more like 7-6 considering traffic for commuters.
I’m loving wfh
YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit
I like to say it's maybe not the best city/area to visit, but it's a good place to live.
brenap13@reddit
I really think it should be the city motto. “Don’t visit, live” or something similar. The tourism here sucks, you go check out dealy plaza for 45 minutes, then maybe the aquarium/ross Perot. It’s a 1 day tourist town and not worth the travel time, but living here, it provides all the amenities needed to live a happy life. People like to hate on the lack of walkability/public transit, but the city has been actively working on it for more than a decade. Downtown/victory park/uptown/west village are all completely walkable and connected to each other by the McKinney street trolley (that is actually nice and not scary to ride) and the Katy Trail. None of that existed 25 years ago.
Outrageous_Row4567@reddit
In addition, Clyde Warren Park was giant towards urban connectivity. Dallas is making strides!
RandomRageNet@reddit
I've always said that. We have very good things like museums, restaurants, culture, theme parks, but just not the best. We have access to an international airport that can fly direct to most places in the world. Most big touring acts make it here eventually. We're a top 5 TV market and one of the 5 biggest metro areas in the country. If there is a thing that was popular in NYC or LA two years ago, rest assured we will have access to it.
But unless you are visiting someone you know who lives here, maybe go to one of the other cities for vacation.
mweyenberg89@reddit
Lol, one of my gripes about Dallas is the long dark cloudy periods. But I'm from El Paso, sunny all the time.
Pussy_Rating_Dude@reddit
It’s Reddit brother, anything Texas related is gonna get a shit ton of hate. Do yourself favor and ignore it, most of the users are very left leaning and work overtime at the hive mind.
npk55@reddit
As a left leaning person, I 100% agree about the weird canned responses other left leaning people give about Texas. It’s super disingenuous and is why we’re in the current political state.
DemandMeNothing@reddit
Can't imagine they need tons of OT to service just two neurons.
OneMaharajah@reddit
Lol, Texas hate on reddit has reached circlejerk levels
Pure-Breath-6885@reddit
I’ve lived in Dallas my entire life. There have been times that I’ve loved it, but mostly, I’d rather be anywhere else than here. Why? Dallas has never had any real identity. The city leaders are always studying ( ie going in expensive trips) other places to look at the way they do things, come back with ideas, spend a lot more money to copy those things, then it all falls apart because those people leave office, and the new people don’t support those projects and have a different “ vision” for the city. When the city builds something, such as those signature bridges we were supposed to get, they compromise on costs, change designs, and pretty much screw them up. Dallas does not appreciate history and will tear anything down at the drop of a developer’s hat, rather than preserve anything. They pumped a bunch of money into an “Arts District”, spent several million dollars promoting Dallas as the “City of the Arts” then decided to go in a different direction. They now have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, to spend anything to maintain the Arts District, Fair Park, and the Kalita Humphreys theatre ( Frank Lloyd Wright). Deep Ellum, West End, the Dallas Underground- they’ve ruined them all with their short-sighted decisions. It’s as if the city suffers from ADHD and cannot focus on anything, even when it effects public health and safety. Dallas endlessly flounders to create an identity, but never really gets beyond a dead president and a football team.
Dreyvius420@reddit
Same can be said for most all liberal cities
Semper454@reddit
What percentage of people there ragging on “Dallas” actually mean Plano, Richardson, Carrollton, etc, and not actual Dallas?
IMO, it’s like 85%.
nounsofassemblage@reddit
Go visit an actual good city and you’ll realize why (but yeah lots of us have to be here cause work)
msondo@reddit
I dunno, I lived for years in Seattle and also spend a good chunk of the year in Madrid (both world class cities) and love to travel. I still love Dallas. No, it’s not appealing to a tourist but it’s a nice relaxing place to live and work and study, and the weather is decent 9 months of the year and the other 3 months we have central air, swimming pools, and frozen margaritas.
nounsofassemblage@reddit
I do like the golf weather I get to have most of the year that’s for sure.
Street_Celery2745@reddit
lol an actual good city. What are you 22? Have you even lived in different cities?
Expensive_Heron9851@reddit
You sound like someone who’s never actually been to Dallas. Most people that sound like you tend to move to a suburb and stay there all the time.
IAmSoUncomfortable@reddit
I have lived in lots of “good cities” and prefer it here.
Leather_Ad_1816@reddit
Welp good thing I have lived here 20 years and just bought a house in Dallas. Also, let’s remember Dallas people don’t like non Dallas people because they are very close minded.
engineer617@reddit
You haven’t made it until you have haters
IAmSoUncomfortable@reddit
Guaranteed they all lived in like Burleson and not actually Dallas
WeHaveIgnition@reddit
All the other comments were clarifying the hate was for the suburb towns. And I agree. I miss Dallas Dallas.
SugoiHubs@reddit
Most people who complain about Dallas didn’t actually live in Dallas.
IAmSoUncomfortable@reddit
I have a friend who lives out in Veridian who is always complaining about “Dallas” and I’m like well yeah…
moody-green@reddit
every time an adult excitedly tells me about their backyard project or a new chain restaurant and/or grocery store coming to a suburb near you, I die a little inside….
mweyenberg89@reddit
Well we're finally getting an HEB in Dallas proper (within 635). If you know HEB, that's exciting lol
nihouma@reddit
Literally one of the few chains to get excited for lol
letmebebrave430@reddit
Why do you die inside when someone is excited about a backyard project?
moody-green@reddit
bored suburban millennial men are doing the same yard projects and insisting upon explaining it to their friends & coworkers in a step by step fashion that takes up 30 minutes you’re never getting back lol…it’s harmless
newusr1234@reddit
I feel personally attacked.....
Realistic-Molasses-4@reddit
CostCo coming to Forney yo, get ready
QuesoStain2@reddit
I mean, our city is relatively boring especially for activities outdoors. The old adage in Dallas is you have to have enough money to eat and drink and it ispretty accurate. We have great food and spots to drink.
forgot_login@reddit
We are host to the most hated area in the solar system (likely the Universe)
The most hated planet is Earth.
The most hated country on Earth is the USA.
The most hated state in the USA is Texas.
The most hated city in Texas is Dallas.
The most hated area in Dallas is Highland Park.
Congrats to those who make the capital of hate their home!
Crunchy_Wang@reddit
A lot of hate in that post lol
Dangerous-Mind9463@reddit
My husband and I have had this conversation at length. I grew up here and stayed. He moved cities for work multiple times, and has friends in various cities, mostly people who are transplants.
We are jealous of each other. I wish I had the experience of finding myself in a new city. He wishes he had the opportunity to forge lifelong friendships and see those people regularly.
In general, I think if people are unhappy where they live they are missing a community. I have friends here with memories of 20+ years of friendship. Although Dallas misses the mark culturally in some ways, I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
kokolupa@reddit
So go home, Im tired of paying 2.5x what rent should be.
InformalBasil@reddit
People: There's nothing to do it Dallas except eat, drink and shop.
Me: Those are my favorite things.
D_Dumps@reddit
Oh no, Anyway.
Xidig6@reddit
That sub is a west coast circle jerk. Try saying anything bad about the PNW quality of living and they’ll pounce on you like feral dogs frothing at the mouth.
D_Dumps@reddit
It's also just popular to hate on Texas in general on reddit.
digitalquesarito@reddit
I had to block r/texas because it was so negative. I’m considering that with this one but it’s not as bad yet.
D_Dumps@reddit
I got banned from commenting on r/Texas for trolling. Can't remember what it was but I think it might have been for pointing out that porn isn't banned in Texas in a sarcastic manner lol.
itsVisuals@reddit
There is literally nothing special about Dallas. You could move it to any part of the country and it would probably fit in. The food is very average for a big city. Not to mention it’s completely centered around working a 9-5 and then spending your weekends either shopping or drinking. The cultural is insanely weak. The one nice thing is financial opportunity but outside that this place is vastly different from your LA, Chicago, and NYC.
ForzaFenix@reddit
If I had it all to do over again, I would have moved out of here in 2006. Oh well.
Suitable-Deer3611@reddit
Hating Dallas or TX for that matter based on politics then okay. But hating it for it's lack of "nature" is just weird energy, I mean are we to build a mountain or something? Just love if you love nature that bad.
ranjithd@reddit
dallaspuram rocks! indian capital of usa
Xidig6@reddit
Can that PLEASE translate to people not moving here?
As a local, I’m tired of the increasing traffic and population boom 🥲
jay_in_the_park@reddit
That thread was full of childless adults. DFW is consistently one of the top places to raise a family. Some people prioritize the beach, the ones in Dallas have prioritized a steady income, a house big enough to accommodate multiple kids, and a culture of normal people.
murstruck@reddit
As someone who lived in South Carolina (Myrtle Beach) then moved to Dallas... And when I moved here I was weirded out about a city wanting to escape its downtown instead of making the downtown lively again, I mainly hate Dallas because I can't find a New York styled pizza anywhere though...
Expensive_Heron9851@reddit
Ur tag literally says grapevine, that’s not Dallas.
SassySissySayz@reddit
Guess the Dallas Cowboys aren’t true Dallas by that logic.
Foddor088outside@reddit
That’s a lot of major sports teams, San Francisco 49ers actually play in Santa Ana, NY Jets and Giants practically play in a whole other state that’s not uniquely the cowboys.
Street_Celery2745@reddit
Try Zolis. That’s a dumb reason to hate dallas. Make your own pizza.
expressedsum11@reddit
Who the fuck cares why do you all post about this every two weeks
AgentBlue14@reddit
Since when do we have an "inferiority complex" with Los Angeles?
Can't even remember the last time I thought about El-Ay (a lá Letterkenny) and if it wasn't for the awful wildfires out there, it wouldn't be on our minds.
gnapster@reddit
Good God: Irvine, CA. It’s the first place I moved to after college while I waited for my boyfriend to graduate. Every damn blade of grass pre-planned within a millimeter. It’s only saving grace was the small airport that was easy to get in/out of and the Asian restaurants/stores.
alfredisonfire@reddit
I’m LA native and moved here a couple of weeks ago, I’m loving it so far. My rent almost cut in half and I’m actually in a luxury apartment while I get paid more working for Honda 😂
AnthonyGuns@reddit
I moved here three years ago from NYC and agree. Dallas has all of the negatives of a big city without many of the positives. I like that it’s fairly inexpensive. The shopping is decent. Everything else is OK.
tmc00138@reddit
I moved here five years ago from NYC. I've found, and populated my life with, literally everything I enjoyed in Manhattan -- except, admittedly, for a really good jazz club and a really good Malaysian restaurant, but Manhattan has no good country music and no good Tex-Mex. Not exaggerating -- there is not one other thing missing, including arts, walkability, energy, all of it. If you think that Dallas lacks the positives of a big city, respectfully my fellow former New Yorker, you aren't looking hard enough. That's the real difference -- here you have to put in a little more effort, but not a lot more, and if you do you'll find pretty much whatever it is you want.
SassySissySayz@reddit
NYC to Dallas or NYC to any other US city test isn’t comparable imo. It’s just different leagues. I would challenge your statement that Dallas has everything, as well. NYC has public transportation, walking, world class art and a lot of it, a vast variety of restaurants, variety of neighborhoods, multi-cultural, famous landmarks everywhere, Christmas time decorations, tap water you can drink and an energy that draws the brightest talent from around the globe in multiple industries. The list goes on. Broadway! And really crazy rent for a small apartment.
tmc00138@reddit
I lived in Manhattan for 20 years, and I stand by what I said -- yes, NYC has more of everything, but it is also true that Dallas has the same scope of everything. And I don't need and in NYC did not partake in every available instance of everything. One or two or three of everything does me just fine. (And while I won't go through the entire list, I do want to point out in particular that Dallas is entirely as multi-cultural as NYC -- again, you have to get out and engage, but the entire world is indeed right here in Dallas, just as it is in NYC.) Otherwise put, oh yes, Dallas is in NYC's league. Dallas just hasn't realized it yet.
AnthonyGuns@reddit
walkability? really? lol not at all. you can walk for 6 hours in NYC and never get bored. I live in one of the most "walkable" areas of dallas and it's not even remotely comparable.
tmc00138@reddit
Well, yes, I suppose if you want to walk for 6 hours, then there'll be a marginal difference. Now, to be clear, if it had ever occurred to me to walk for 6 hours in Manhattan, I'm pretty sure that I'd have been bored long before the 6-hour mark. And walking for 6 hours in Brooklyn or Queens (much less Staten Island or the Bronx) would get boring even quicker. And I doubt whether you often went walking for hours on end in Manhattan, either, if for no other reason than that it would be a terrible waste of any 6 hours in Manhattan (or Dallas), and while I don't know I suspect that you might have had a job.
And for my own part here in Dallas, I walk to work, and walk to restaurants and culture and nightlife, and walk to the park and the gym. And I get to drive my truck, too, which is of course not a real option if you live in Manhattan.
You are however at liberty to ignore everything about Dallas that you wish to ignore, and to feel entirely as meh as you wish to feel.
SleeplessInPlano@reddit
Well that’s just like, your opinion man.
Inner-Quail90@reddit
A bunch of malarkey.
inyokoolaid@reddit
Can we make that post more viral? Would love for less people to move here. Traffic, shitty drivers, and cost of living have grown exponentially.
Dick_Lazer@reddit
Born and raised here and nobody hates it more than I do.
frontrow2023@reddit
That’s just dumb, Dallas is a great city with a lot of offer.
CoastieKid@reddit
Dallas is a great city to make money - the value we get compared to LA, NYCc and Chicago is insane
Firm-Impression2260@reddit
Thank god - yall please leave
bombassgal@reddit
Best quote: “Dallas. It had everything money can buy and nothing it can’t”
_GrimFandango@reddit
does this surprise you? this sub has a bunch of people hating on it.
sunnedpeach@reddit
I’ve met many people in my mid to late twenties who moved here and then quickly moved away a couple years later. I don’t understand and don’t care to understand, but just always felt those people were weak minded and inflexible. To those people I say, GTFO and stop taking up space. As a born and raised Texan, I love Dallas.
GravitationalEddie@reddit
When I read the complaints here by themselves, all I hear is Florida sucks.
I_SmellFuckeryAfoot@reddit
thats cool, we are getting crowded let them read it and stay away
Ironmaiden9227@reddit
That sub recommends living in places that most people are leaving, they are mostly delusional
SanMan-AlfaR@reddit
lol most of the people moving here are from impoverished red states that come from shit holes like Pine bluff Arkansas 😂. Like bro, ain’t way Dallas is worst than whatever shit hole you’re coming from.
mweyenberg89@reddit
It's pretty spot on. Dallas has great food and jobs, but that's about it.
sameolemeek@reddit
someone said control+v strip malls everywhere. i laughed a little because its true
Street_Celery2745@reddit
Our strip malls are your mountains !
To others reading:
I get it if you’re a true beach or mountain person like you’d do that every weekend, maybe go somewhere else.
But if you all you’ll do in LA or nyc is restaurants, we have the same vibes here in ours as “top” cities even if the food isn’t “top” (though if I blindfolded someone who though they were in ny they wouldn’t know the difference). I lived in nyc for far longer than most of these commenters have lived here.
Can’t golf or tennis in nyc or Chicago like you do here! Or sun bathe! We have more sun than you, sorry!
Emotional-Loss-9852@reddit
DFW is a great place to raise a family, I would imagine the average Reddit user probably not raising a family. So it makes sense a lot of them would hate DFW.
claudial12@reddit
I've lived in this gd city over 30 years. I grew up in Europe and never thought i would be one to move to a city and stay, especially one as pointless as Dallas. But I've started my own business, I have some really cool clients, and they're in the Metroplex, so I'm stuck here. Oh well, that's why I travel and have other properties. Fucking Dallas.
masonjar014@reddit
I’ve lived in Dallas 35 years, and while I like living here, many of the complaints on that post make sense. I think we can be clear-minded in recognizing both pros and cons of wherever we live.
scott1373@reddit
Not to be rude, but good. Please leave and tell all your friends it's no good to live here. It's too crowded.
SaWalkerMakasin@reddit
But we have The Ticket.
Existing365Chocolate@reddit
Texas, Cowboys, summer heat, Highland Park, urban sprawl, etc
Lots of stuff that probably hits at least one nerve or dislike for people
the__poseidon@reddit
I’m in the wrong. I literally shared the same opinions as the very two top comments and I’ve lived in Dallas for more than 20 years and moved away two years ago.
DookieMcDookface@reddit
People hate Dallas. Color me shocked.
Justchatting77@reddit
If you read through, there are people with issues with a lot of cities. The liberal talking points about Texas are nauseating and uneducated. Dallas is a place to work, it isn’t pretty terrain but you can make a good living
Cornbread_Cristero@reddit
I don’t love Dallas four years in, but I’ve grown to at least not fully hate it. Some of it is that I’m making more friends and building a stronger community. I found too that a lot of the adjustment process is just finding the part of the city you like and getting to know it so you can feel like home there. And some of it is just realizing that it’s human to find change difficult and moving to DFW is a big change for a lot of people.
A lot of people live in a suburb that they aren’t jazzed about, the cost of living is high compared to where they moved from, or they spend most of their time commuting and working. I’d hate anywhere that I only sat in traffic and worked in.
ChangingThymes@reddit
You nailed it so well. It’s all about finding the community you call home and like. Bishop Arts, Argyle, Frisco. 3 totally different worlds.
SleeperMuscle@reddit
TEXASS!
Old-Challenge-2129@reddit
It is kinda boring but you make the most of what you got. BBQ, Music, whatever giant lakes we have, etc