Nintendo Switch 2 - Official Console Reveal Trailer

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From-UoM@reddit

The Wii U traumatized them so much they are finally using numericals for the successor.

Meanwhile at Microsoft Xbox.

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Microsoft really does need to use numbers. I know I need to get a new PlayStation when the number changes, but for Xbox I have to figure out if it’s just a refresh like the s. I didn’t realize the one x was an actual successor to the one until like a year or two after release. Based on its sales numbers I’m not alone.

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OSUfan88@reddit

It’s sooo easy for Xbox.

Just name the next Xbox “Xbox 7”.

not enough X. XFX Xbox Xerxes* XTX

* - famous persian king

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BambiesMom@reddit

Too simple. More like Xbox AI XTX Series S 370.

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just make it Xbait and get FBI to raid you for publicity.

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GodZefir@reddit

We'd all pronounce that as Ex Bakes, right?

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animealt46@reddit

Xbox Copilot plus X and Xbox Copilot plus S

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shugthedug3@reddit

Xbox X XTX

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Ciserus@reddit

This is what I said they should do with the current generation. The whole reason they went with their ridiculous naming approach was because in 2005 they didn't want to release a console called the "Xbox 2" against the "PlayStation 3" because 3 sounds better than two.

But by 2020, if you count the Xbox One X, they'd released four consoles and could truthfully name the next one the Xbox 5, just like the PS5. Instead they did... whatever the hell they did.

And you're right, there have been so many Xbox versions now that they could easily call the next one the Xbox 7 and take the lead!

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Gachnarsw@reddit

No Xbox 7 until I get Windows 9!

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1/3 vs 1/4 pounder comes to mind.

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LBGW_experiment@reddit

That's what iPhone did. They went from 6 to 7 to 8/X to 11 to 12 etc.

iPhone 7 came out Sept 2016 and Samsung's latest flagship was the S7 that came out in March 2016, so it appeared they were "behind" Samsung, even though it really didn't matter.

So the next phone they released, both the 8 and the X (pronounced as "ten") came out in Sept 2017, as the S8 had been released in April 2017. Now they have the 10 and Samsung is "only" the 8.

Funnily, Samsung then did the same thing once they hit S10, released March 2019. They were now lagging the X, and the iPhone 11 came out Sept 2019, so to not release their "11" after Apple's "11" was already out, they said fuck it and went straight to S20 😂

So we have Samsung Galaxy S all the way through to the Galaxy S10, skipping all teens, then S20 and resumed incremental naming again after they finished their number pissing match with Apple.

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III-V@reddit

Except they seemingly abandoned that idea.

The One X was a refresh, not a successor to the One. a One Pro in Sony terms

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pnt510@reddit

The Xbox One X was just a refresh though, like the PlayStation Pro or Switch OLED. The Xbox Series X(or S) was the next generation.

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Wes___Mantooth@reddit

The One X is just a refresh of the One though. I think you meant the Series X, that was the new console generation.

Just further proof it's confusing as fuck.

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ra2ed@reddit

Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox 360 elite, Xbox 360 slim, Xbox 360 e, Xbox one, Xbox one s, Xbox one x, Xbox series s, Xbox series x.. it’s very confusing 😂

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Graywulff@reddit

Yeah PlayStation 1-5 4 pro 5 pro is so much easier.

PS3 fat and ps3 slim; my fat died and they replaced it with a slim.

I didn’t get a 4 or 5. Mainly PC game and ps3 is fine for multiplayer stuff bc graphics are fantastic on the pc and my old games are still fun.

I mean I play gran turismo 4 with a friend on a ps2 sometimes.

I got an Xbox one S and regret it bc few multiplayer games IRL.

turn 360 degrees and walk away

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AoF-Vagrant@reddit

They've since released the Xbox series 10 (X in Roman) so they're starting to catch up!

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reaper527@reddit

DS -> 3DS -> 2DS

Pinnacle depends on person to person. It could be anything people liked the most. Some might think it's the PS5 Pro, someone thinks it's the Xbox 360. I might say SNES is the pinnacle.

I always played one specific game on my friend. It did run on Atari console from the year 1982. That was the real gen 1, but it was the time before people even cared about bits. It felt too old even for me.

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zig131@reddit

They should have called it the Super Switch.

People would have appreciated the call back.

Although I guess maybe very uninformed informed people would think it is was a mid-gen refesh like the GB Advance SP. 2 does make it clear it's a full-on generational sucessor.

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namelessted@reddit

Don't know why you are getting downvotes. I completely agree that the "Super Switch" would have been a great name and a call back to the SNES era.

I don't think it would be confusing. At least, not compared to the dumb shit Nintendo has done in the past with "NEW" DS handhelds.

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aminorityofone@reddit

Microsoft originally used the 360 as sony had the ps3. They were worried that people would think 3 is better than 2, and so instead of xbox 2, they made the 360.

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jumpyg1258@reddit

I still have one Xbox One box in my closet.

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sirfannypack@reddit

I was hoping for the Nintendo Shift.

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Radulno@reddit

It's kind of stupid too. They could have simply found a new name like they did before. Nintendo is the branding anyway.

Also to be fair, it's like their most resembling console to the previous gen ever. Like this trailer put it really in evidence how similar it is. Hell it could be a Switch XL and have the exact same trailer (since they didn't mention the internal changes in specs)

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MrMPFR@reddit

Thanks for the teaser Nintendo and for letting us wait 2.5 months for more info xD

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InvestigatorSenior@reddit

that 4.2.2025 date is 2nd April, not 4th Feb? American date format catches me every time...

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F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt@reddit

This is why I'm die-hard yyyy-mm-dd as a format.

You'd have to be clinically insane to think of doing yyyy-dd-mm so it's always self evident what the date is.

Also, sorting it alphabetically works to sort the date correctly. No need for a special "sort by date". Just name your file "2025-01-16 - file.txt" and that'll automatically sort it by date first, name second in any view that sorts by name.

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SwiftSpectralRabbit@reddit

You also need to be insane to do mm/dd/yyyy and Americans do it.

Also, dd/mm/yyyy is the same as yyyy/mm/dd but better because it puts the more relevant information first so just the order is reversed.

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F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt@reddit

The relevant info part makes no sense to me. It's not like you actually save time. We also don't worry about doing that with any other numerical thing.

/r/ISO8601

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JapariParkRanger@reddit

That's the compete opposite of how numbers work. The least significant digit to the right, the most to the left. The most logical is Year, Month, Day.

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Jordan_Jackson@reddit

That is your opinion. And I don’t know how you count but normal people count from least to greatest.

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JapariParkRanger@reddit

You write "one hundred fifty six" as 651?

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Jordan_Jackson@reddit

Now you have taken this whole thing out of context. This has to be one of the dumbest retorts I have ever read.

Let me break this down for you.

Dates are made up of a sequence of 3 numerical values. How we record those dates is called the date format. There are three widely used formats.

Numbers are not dates, unless they are used to represent a date. If you are not representing a date, a normal person counts 1...2...3... and so on. Of course, when you get to the hundreds and thousands, you would write 100...101...1000...1100.

What is being discussed here is the date format and not the sequence of numbers.

And if you want to be really asinine, there are certain languages that would pronounce 651 as six hundred one and fifty.

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JapariParkRanger@reddit

Dates are literally numbers.

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PthariensFlame@reddit

Little endian everything! 😄

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Broder7937@reddit

Because it IS the most logical system. For archiving purposes, inverting it to year-month-day can be better because file systems store items by reading the title front-to-back.

What does NOT make any sense is the month, day, year system. It's the only date system that makes absolutely no sense and somehow they managed to make an entire country adopt this senseless system.

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Jordan_Jackson@reddit

I never claimed that month, day, year made sense and if you followed the comment chain, you would see that I’ve stated this.

While putting the year first may make sense from an archival standpoint, from a readability standpoint or an everyday usage standpoint, it does not.

As for the US using this system, I can only say that they do things differently and I do not agree with those things. Metric is superior to Imperial/Standard. In my opinion (note those three words before you get all upset), dd/mm/yyyy is better for an everyday usage standpoint and I can see why yyyy/mm/dd would be better suited for data entry.

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Broder7937@reddit

I never claimed that month, day, year made sense

All of me knows that’s just conjecture.

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Exist50@reddit

Half of me thinks if the hardwares still selling, whats the rush?

No fucking way it's been 8 years

Stop making me feel this old

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AstralElement@reddit

Yeah but they’re likely building a launch IP portfolio. PS5 might be doing well, but they’re still dealing with cross gen titles and people staying on PS4.

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MrMPFR@reddit

Yeah unfortunately not. This is absurd.

1534 CUDA cores 6 Texture Processing Clusters (TPC)

48 Gen 3 Tensor cores

2 RTX ray-tracing cores

RAM: 12 GB LPDDR5X

Handheld Mode: CPU: 998.4 MHz

GPU: 561 MHz (\~1.72 TFLOPS)

Memory Frequency: 4266 MHz

Memory Bandwidth: 68.256 GB/s

Docked Mode: CPU: 1100.8 MHz

GPU: 1007.25 MHz (\~3.09 TFLOPS)

Memory Frequency: 6400 MHz

Memory Bandwidth: 102.4 GB/s

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reaper527@reddit

If its as powerful as ps4 that will be huge

i mean, i get that it's a portable so it's not apples to apples, but the ps4 is 12 year old hardware from 2013. even as a portable, being as powerful as decade old piece of hardware is kind of a baseline expectation.

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Versorgungsposten@reddit

True, still, PS4 had great graphics and everything since then had diminishing returns, so its great to have PS4 graphics in handheld form.

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communist_llama@reddit

If it's DDR5 or DDR5X it will be about as good as the steam deck. Memory bandwidth is always the limiting factor in graphics.

But it won't work well if it's only using a 60 hz display.

Case in point: Black Myth Wukong PS5 Performance Mode

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witheringsyncopation@reddit

Ampere? Lord. Nintendo loves making sure their shit is obsolete before it ever drops, don’t they? I just pray the Wi-Fi is substantially improved over the original Switch.

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Raikaru@reddit

What do you expect? It has to fit in a ~$400 price point and they're not gonna sell it at a loss.

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Joscraft_05@reddit

It will probably have more performance than the Steam deck with the AMD Z1 and way more in dock with DLSS from Ampere. Consider it obsolete or not but it will be amazing with DLSS and capabilities from Ampere architecture.

Imagine that it could have been worse using another type of Tegra chips or Turing chip from rtx 2000s.

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TK3600@reddit

Whats new in RX9070

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TheElectroPrince@reddit

Better GPU and AMD's first AI-based upscaler in FSR4.

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HandheldAddict@reddit

In all fairness, I am expecting Sony/Microsoft handhelds the next few years.

So yeah the handheld/tablet market is heating up and it's going to be WILD to see x86 go toe to toe with ARM in it's territory.

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hey_you_too_buckaroo@reddit

I mean we got an announcement that it was coming and pictures of rdna4. That's basically the same thing Nintendo just did.

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BarKnight@reddit

AMD was probably going to announce today and will have to once again change their plans.

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popop143@reddit

I mean the leaks of Switch 2 were so long ago now too.

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BenignLarency@reddit

Nah, the bezels are definitly larger than on the Switch OLED.

Gotta save room for the NS2 OLED model in 2-4 years!

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Jofzar_@reddit

The bezels are massive, I was so surprised. The "screen off" render might be one of the most deceptive ones yet

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Noveno_Colono@reddit

switch series one x with extra avocado

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Capable-Silver-7436@reddit

2 nintendo switch according to the logo

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aa2051@reddit

2 Nintendo 2 Switch

Nintendo Switch 2: Switch Harder

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Gachnarsw@reddit

Nintendo Switch 2: Electric Wario

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996forever@reddit

Announcement of an announcement

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fine_printer@reddit

Yuzu and Ryujinx got killed for this.

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Aggrokid@reddit

It would have been trivial to emulate due to its modest power, so Nintendo used legal strong-arming

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UGMadness@reddit

Couple things that stand out to me:

Two USB-C ports, one on top and one on the bottom. Presumably the top one might be charging only, for when playing while on the kickstand for example.
Right Joycon still retains the IR sensor for motion games and such.
DIsclaimer at the end says certain Switch games might not be compatible with the S2. At first I thought it was games like Labo or 1, 2, Switch that need the IR sensor but given that the Joycon has it now I'm worried it might be a hardware compatibility issue in some way. Hope it doesn't end in a situation where Nintendo has to manually approve each title to be backwards compatible like on Xbox.

can't imagine why it didn't work

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Fabulous-Pen-5468@reddit

Because it was scratched…

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saruin@reddit

I'd be stoked if older Switch games got a performance bump like what some PS4 games do on the PS5. So many games have abysmal performance on the OG Switch.

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Herby20@reddit

Two USB-C ports, one on top and one on the bottom. Presumably the top one might be charging only, for when playing while on the kickstand for example.

It could also be potentially used for new peripherals while docked or in handheld without sacrificing a charging port.

Disclaimer at the end says certain Switch games might not be compatible with the S2. At first I thought it was games like Labo or 1, 2, Switch that need the IR sensor but given that the Joycon has it now I'm worried it might be a hardware compatibility issue in some way.

I'm presuming the incompatible note is not because of the lack of an IR sensor, but because the new joycons are physically bigger. That size difference might make the peripherals for things like Ring Fit no longer function as intended.

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zig131@reddit

I remember being disappointed with the kickstand mode of the Switch.

As someone without a TV, the Switch appealed as an all-in-once device, but you couldn't plugin and get docked performance with the screen still visible as the port was on the bottom 🤦

Glad they have improved on that front.

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mynametobespaghetti@reddit

I think that's a boilerplate thing you add when you advertise backwards compatibility because you don't know if there's going to be an edge case that someone will try to sue you over.

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Noble00_@reddit

Well, with Labo, the Switch and JoyCons are physically larger, so parts may not fit

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goldenhearted@reddit

Right Joycon still retains the IR sensor for motion games and such.

Hm, saw some other comments in other subs wondering if the disclaimer that "not all Switch 1 games will be compatible with Switch 2" might mean IR games like 1-2 Switch and Ring Fit Adventures might not work on it but you pointing this out, I'm not sure what that disclaimer will entail. (Could be LABO related shit tho)

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And the Wii U was a great console, it just wasn't commercially successful.

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WJMazepas@reddit

I had a WiiU. Sure, it had amazing games, but the tablet controller didn't make all that difference in games.

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cd36jvn@reddit

With switch the whole console was the gimmick. The fact of having a docking home console and portable console with a large screen and removable controllers all in one was quite novel at that time.

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phrstbrn@reddit

The Switch was not a gimmick. The whole Switch was "what happens if we take our two most successful products and made it one product". It's a Wii bolted to a Game Boy. The docking is barely a gimick, it's a mild iterative step for a Game Boy.

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KrypXern@reddit

You're conflating a gimmick with something bad. A gimmick is just an attention attracting feature.

The Switch is full of other gimmicks than just the dock, though. HD Rumble, waggle controls, IR reader for heartbeat sensing.

Remember that ARMS is the game they showed off the Switch with at their first presentation.

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cd36jvn@reddit

Yes and it was a novel approach to a console. Gimmick maybe cheapens what they were doing but it was a novel idea, hadn't been done to that degree before and no one knew of people would actually want a portable console as a home console.

At the time of release these all had some design change or gimmick attached to them that we didn't know how beneficial it would actually be. Some turned out to be true gimmicks and flopped (virtual boy, Wii u), and some turned out to not be gimmicks at all (switch, Wii) and were widely received in the market.

It was entirely possible no one had any interest in using their portable console as a home console. It was entirely possible that people actually wanted something smaller and more portable, with better battery life, and the blending of the home and portable consoles definitely could have been a negative and the switch was a flop. We have the benefit of 8 years of sales knowing that isn't the case now. But when it was announced, coming out of the Wii u era, no one knew for sure.

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yeah the Switch is still a local multiplayer powerhouse in a way that the Steam Deck et al are not. You could hypothetically connect a bunch of controllers to the Steam Deck, but it is not as seamless as connecting 4 joycons.

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WJMazepas@reddit

That is different from the gimmicks of Wii and WiiU, which were totally different ways to play from the other consoles in the market.

A Switch is a hybrid portable Docked console, but you play the games the same way as the other consoles.

And I'm saying that they aren't trying to invent new gimmicks to play games in a different way

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cd36jvn@reddit

Yes it is a different gimmick, but it was a novel take on consoles at the time.

Wii may have sold a lot of units but back in the day i found the marketing and whole "yay fun with family and friends!!" concept really fucking obnoxious.

This trailer may be boring but i like that the hardware is the focus

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LowPurple@reddit

The joycons connector port thingy seems like it's going to be a disaster durability wise

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lucidludic@reddit

Why? The design looks similar to a larger USB-C connector which does not have serious durability or reliability problems. The rails on the original Switch on the other hand were a bit of an issue over time and can be misaligned if you’re not careful.

GPU is 3 generations newer architecture with somewhere around 6x more cores and should offer around 2x the performance of the Steamdeck unless it winds up memory bottlenecked.

shugthedug3@reddit

The trend does seem to be bigger, probably a response to other handhelds which seem to be growing in popularity.

By keeping their mouths closed, they kept the conversation at Nvidia vs. Nvidia instead of AMD vs. Nvidia. Now that we're starting to see 50xx series benchmarks showing an everyday performance increased of about 10% over the previous gen models, it's a much different story. Especially if you believe that Nvidia's cards won't be seen close to the MSRP numbers they announced, but that can't be confirmed until pricing starts showing up on retailer websites.

Fuck now that you mention it.. true! I was surprised it was the first in a long time but didn't think that they have never done this. The closest was wii u after the wii.

Kind of proves how great their switch concept works, this may also be the first time they don't make the new console revolve around a new feature (or gimmick like in some cases)

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smile_e_face@reddit

Not gonna lie I would've been down for a Nintendo Super Switch.

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Sol33t303@reddit

I feel like nes>snes is basically the exact same as slapping on a 2.

people wanna be able to play the new nintendo games though, I know I do.

The switch hardware at this point is terrible for any new game. People will upgrade with or without the oled for new games that simply cannot run on the original switch

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PangolinZestyclose30@reddit

They want them first to buy the Switch 2 LCD and then Switch 2 OLED.

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tucketnucket@reddit

Doubt it. OLED has been widely used in small devices for well over a decade now. The damn Vita launched with an OLED display at the end of 2011. If they don't at least offer the option at launch, they want to double dip.

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djwillis1121@reddit

So they don’t want people with an OLED Switch to upgrade? At least not initially it seems.

If there are big games that people with OLED Switches can't play then they'll buy the new console regardless

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raZr_517@reddit

So they don’t want people with an OLED switch to upgrade? At least not initially it seems.

Don't worry friend, it will fly off shelves faster than Nintendo can make them in the first years, so they probably don't care.

Wanna play the new games? You'll buy the new console.

Maybe with the Switch 3 OLED will be cheap enough to be the default configuration.

Depends on the price of the oled screen compared to the lcd. We'll see...

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DoctahToboggan69@reddit

Wow, seems like a bad idea and a complete step backwards. Looks like I’ll definitely be using my OLED for the next 2 years.

It seems silly not to offer OLED for the base model. Makes me worried that the Switch 2 will ultimately be a side grade for the specs. We shall see in April!

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raZr_517@reddit

It seems silly not to offer OLED for the base model. Makes me worried that the Switch 2 will ultimately be a side grade for the specs.

No, the NS2 will be a HUGE upgrade in terms of specs compared to the NS.

The only side grade is the screen, 7" 720p OLED versus 8" 1080p LCD.

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DoctahToboggan69@reddit

Got ya. I’m wondering if it would even be worth it if the screen is not upgraded anyway. Sure the games will run better, and look better, but if it’s outputting at 720p.. what’s the point? I’m really hoping there is an OLED option on day 1, which to me would be very worth it, especially if they’re releasing exclusive titles right out the gate.

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raZr_517@reddit

99.99% we won't see OLED for the first few years.

Also, who said that it will be only outputting at 720p?

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It will be LCD so Nintendo can upsell the OLED version later on

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Capable-Silver-7436@reddit

theyre probably going to have both they know they can get people double dipping

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Large-Fruit-2121@reddit

I can't go back to LCD now. Every screen I see apart from my car is oled.

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an_angry_Moose@reddit

You really thought I was talking about clipping joy cons from a switch into a switch 2?

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reaper527@reddit

You really thought I was talking about clipping joy cons from a switch into a switch 2?

no, but if they don't physically connect, it seems unlikely nintendo is worrying about ensuring they wirelessly connect either.

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kasakka1@reddit

They could offer an adapter, or support them only wirelessly.

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an_angry_Moose@reddit

Consoles are getting more “computer-like” with each generation, and with that, increased compatibility. It would likely be a more conscious decision for Nintendo to remove capability rather than have to implement it.

This feels like a rushed announcement. Doesn't have the impact I thought it would need. And those YouTube comments are toxic.

I wonder what the upvote/downvote ratio is. So many people trolling.

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Lenoxx97@reddit

They had to rush because everything was already leaked. They probably planned on releasing this in march so the time until the direct isnt too long. Cant imagine 2,5 months between this and the direct was their original plan

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inyue@reddit

upvote

People worried about backwards compatibility

Me solely looking to play new Switch 2 titles with no care for the past 🤣

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