Help me with a $4k dream build
Posted by deviant_mind29@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 238 comments
Hey all, I just came into a little windfall and decided it’s finally time to build my dream 4K gaming/streaming rig. I want something that can handle ultra settings at 4K, stay cool/quiet, and have some future-proofing. My friend suggested this build, but I’d love feedback or alternatives:
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
• GPU: ASUS ROG Strix RTX 4090
• RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000
• Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe SSD
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero
• PSU: Corsair RM1000x (1000W, fully modular)
• Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO
• Fans: 6x Lian Li Uni Fan SL120 RGB
Open to suggestions on anything—especially monitors, peripherals, or better price-to-performance options. Thanks!
Gregardless@reddit
Get a 5090
elessarjd@reddit
Can't believe this even has to be said. Just goes to show you how little effort people put into research before posting.
LegioX1983@reddit
For true PC builders, researching is the best part
DeceptionIII@reddit
And hindsight is the worst...looking back I could've saved $70 on the motherboard, $20 on the case, $30 on cable extensions, and squeezed in a 7800X3D.
isotope123@reddit
Or you could've been patient and waited the short while it would have taken to save up an extra $120?
aVarangian@reddit
If I had waited 2 years I could have gotten my GPU for 30% less
isotope123@reddit
Sure, but that's not the point I was making.
aVarangian@reddit
Then how would he have saved $?
isotope123@reddit
I recognize I'm privileged, but it'd take me all of a few days to save that extra amount. I put that same short time frame onto OP's budget. I understand it takes others longer to save $120, and I shouldn't have assumed it'd be as easy for others to do.
aVarangian@reddit
Ah, I thought you meant the parts would be cheaper lol
SK83r-Ninja@reddit
Depending on the circumstances that can take well over a month
isotope123@reddit
Fair enough. Been planning my PC since August still waiting on my 9800x3d and 5080
SK83r-Ninja@reddit
Ooo, sounds nice enjoy the build.
LegioX1983@reddit
Why you getting a noctua dh-15 with a 4k budget? And I really don’t think the DH-15 would work well in a fish bowl case like o11. To much air moving around, which would mess with the air flow on the fins/fans. Best to get an AIO or a case with a front 120mm or 140mm fans for a push and pull config
Attainted@reddit
I'm judging them quite a bit based on their post history.
poland626@reddit
SO much "[deleted by user] " lol
Puffycatkibble@reddit
He is living up to the username.
Attainted@reddit
Hating women so much you realize you're gay is certainly quite the stance.
bpatterson007@reddit
But his budget is only $4k... Fairly credible rumors are placing it at $2500-$3000 at launch to actually get one in your hands.
Bubbly_Bandicoot_361@reddit
My friend, you are absolutely correct in everything you said. You were even upvoted a few posts down for saying the same thing. You currently have -74 downvotes for your correctness on this post with only one, terrible reply.
Welcome to /r/buildapc !
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The initial prices won't be anywhere near NVidia's (Manufacturer's) Suggested Retail Price. Even the aftermarket cards that usually have an MSRP of 1-200 more (overclocking, cooling, fan noise, etc.) will not be seen at their own MSRP for a looooong time. Not without winning lotteries against bots.
No, LOL...
bpatterson007@reddit
Thanks. Never had that happen before, kind of weird! I'd like to know why at least out of curiosity, oh well!
Bubbly_Bandicoot_361@reddit
You won't in this sub. It's a popularity contest faaaar more than it is about being factual. If they don't like the FACT, it gets downvoted. Like spoiled 3 year olds.
Your post is a perfect example of why this sub is atrocious 90% of the time. It's amazing.
And sorry...
bpatterson007@reddit
It's an imaginary number that has no bearing on my life whatsoever. Thanks, but I'll live! 😂
aVarangian@reddit
idk why you are inserting a monitor into the budget
bpatterson007@reddit
Because at the bottom of his post he says he needs advice for peripherals, especially monitors?
denverlanedez@reddit
You miss ces?
bpatterson007@reddit
Oh, you think you're actually getting a 5090 FE at launch for $1999? When have high end Nvidia cards actually sold for MSRP at launch?
RevolutionLittle4636@reddit
Shipped and sold by Amazon is always msrp. Not the third party sellers. He should be fine to get one at msrp $2000
Bubbly_Bandicoot_361@reddit
I'm not sure you understand what Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price means. The amount of GPUs on Amazon waaaay over MSRP is pages and pages long.
RevolutionLittle4636@reddit
Those are third party. Shipped and sold by Amazon is always same as Nvidia msrp. 4080 super before it went oos was always $999.
bpatterson007@reddit
If I recall correctly, didn't the other xx90 series cards sell out online within 30 minutes because of scalpers and bots? Pages wouldn't load right, payments wouldn't process, and poor, they're gone. I hope people can buy the 5090 at MSRP, but I feel a lot of souls are going to be crushed quickly.
IhaveR34ofyourmom@reddit
Whats so good about the founders edition?
bpatterson007@reddit
It's the one that will be guaranteed at MSRP and it's made by Nvidia. Once they are gone or sold out you are looking at the AIB'S, and they will cost more. I'm presuming most will be $2200-$2500
ABDLTA@reddit
I mean if you try, yes...
You just need to camp a best buy...
bpatterson007@reddit
My friend showed up fairly early for the 4090 launch at a micro center. There were almost 100 people in line, he didn't get one, not even close. We all made jokingly fun of him, he thought he could just waltz in and buy one 😂
ABDLTA@reddit
Yeah you have to camp some locations
denverlanedez@reddit
Literally at microcenter. Plus the demand of the 5090 is nowhere near the 4090. People walked into microcenter at noon on launch day and got their hands on one at retail
daffyboy123@reddit
I believe they will not have FE this launch confirmed, if anyone else has heard otherwise I’d be happy to see
cfiggis@reddit
Microcenter's official video about the launch confirmed that they will not have FE.
hlhammer1001@reddit
Microcenter has confirmed that they will not be selling FEs this launch
bpatterson007@reddit
Did they give a reason why? Seems odd that such a large retailer wouldn't have them at launch.
cfiggis@reddit
I think Best Buy paid Nvidia for exclusivity on the FE.
killer_corg@reddit
Asus and others have msrp cards.
bpatterson007@reddit
However, it's at their MSRP, not Nvidia's.
killer_corg@reddit
True, but these typically mirror the FE for the base models
It also feels more like nvida treats msrp as MAP pricing, and I’d really love to know what the price floor is rather than the price to make the seller the best return
bpatterson007@reddit
We wish the price floor was the issue. It wouldn't shock me to see people spending $3,000 for a 5090 in the near future. I see no reason to look at this launch any differently than the 4090 or 3090 launches
bpatterson007@reddit
IF you live near one, maybe. FE's are short supply at launch usually and you're forced to go AIB, which will immediately be $2200-$2500, minimum. The 5090 will sell out instantly, just like the 4090 and the 3090 before it.
EirHc@reddit
Ya exactly, start by clicking the 5090 and the 9800x3D, then figure out the rest from there.
olacoke@reddit
Agreed!
wewerecreaturres@reddit
All that money and you want to buy a…7900x?
joeshmoethe2nd@reddit
Dont build, just go to origin pc's and have them build for you
makoblade@reddit
That build is fine, but with a reasonable $4000 budget and a little bit of pickiness you can do much better.
Fans: I would decide if you care about actual performance or superficial RGB first though. The Uni Fans look neat, but they're not particularly useful compared to standard case fans. That's an easy drop to save a lot and put towards something better.
GPU: You do not want a 4090 unless you get a good deal on a used one. It's a great card, but with the 5090 around the corner it just doesn't make sense. Assuming you can get one at RRP/MSRP you should be fine.
CPU: For gaming there's no reason not to get the 9800x3d outside of availability, which has become much better recently. You could argue for a 9900x or 9950x, or wait for the x3d variants, but the price will go up a fair bit.
RAM: With an x3d chip the timings are less critical, so you can get cheaper "slow" ram (CL32 is fine) and not notice a difference. You could easily bump up to 2x32GB. I'd just get whatever option is cheapest from a reputable brand. If you want RGB here the cost difference isn't much if you go with gskill.
Case: Pretty sure the dynamic evo is discontinued, but other O11 evo variants are not. Get whatever you like here, this is the best place to put a little more money to have a good build experience and be happy with the case. Personally I'd get an Antec Flux (Pro) or Fractal Design North (XL). Shop around and find something you like under $200.
Storage: The 990 pro is one of the most overrated SSDs of all time. The WD SN850x is functionally the same but tends to have better sales. I'd get 4TB here if you're rolling with a single drive. On sale they've been around $275 after taxes.
PSU: Any 1000w modular PSU is fine. Corsair RMx series (2024) is a solid choice. The Asus ROG Strix (non-aura, but doesn't matter) is a very quiet PSU that seems to have decent sales, but that might be because they were clearing inventory for the new model.
Mobo: I wouldn't bother with the Crosshair unless you have a very specific need that it provides. An x670e strix variant will save you some cash to allow for the other stuff.
CPU Cooler: Just get the Artic Freezer III and call it a day. It looks better and will cool just as well. You can even get the RGB version if that's your jam.
This is a list I put together quickly, it's got room for refinement depending on your preferences:
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RHMbkf
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor ($634.94 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($95.48 @ Amazon) Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($307.39 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory ($156.87 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($307.28 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 5090 32 GB Video Card ($2120.00) Case: Lian Li O11 Vision ATX Mid Tower Case ($137.79 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2024) 1000 W Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($201.39 @ Amazon) Total: $3961.14 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-16 10:42 EST-0500
Illustrious-Car-3797@reddit
Lol, I wouldn't touch a WD NVMe drive, recycled trash
At least with Samsung, their customer services will upgrade me within the warranty terms no issue. In the last 6yrs I've had major upgrades from Samsung for free and the performance is beyond amazing
makoblade@reddit
That's not a particularly useful anecdote. Real world performance puts the 990 pro and sn850x at the same level, with both being PCIE 4.0 TLC drives. The premium for the Samsung drive just isn't there when they both carry a 5 year warranty.
I've had Samsung drives fail on me right after warranty, but not so with the WDs.
Illustrious-Car-3797@reddit
I've had WD's fail on me within 1yr (HDD) whereas my Seagate drives always last about 4-6yrs. WD just doesn't have it. But everyone to their own. At least Samsung make and use their own controllers
makoblade@reddit
You're getting hung up on enterprise stuff. It's a whole different ball game there, and honestly a drive failure is basically irrelevant unless you're a really small shop since redundancy and backups are king.
For consumer level stuff, WD's SN850x is proveably on par with the 990 Pro.
Illustrious-Car-3797@reddit
For me and non-boot drive stuff......I only use enterprise stuff for my 500TB NAS. So what's relevant to me may not be relevance to you.....correct.
I'll never use a NVMe manufacturer that doesn't even make their own IC's nor controller
makoblade@reddit
I wouldn't put much stock in enterprise grade stuff for a personal NAS unless you're also keeping off site backups, which is far more beneficial than arbitrarily favoring a specific brand of drive (the quality varies by models more than brands - there's plenty of garbage seagates out there, but not all).
I don't see why you'd harp on a manufacturer not making their own controllers or IC's - if you can have someone do the job better then why reinvent the wheel?
Illustrious-Car-3797@reddit
"if you can have someone do the job better then why reinvent the wheel?" They did this many times. Better performance, better reliability, purpose designed (rather than to flood the network with cheap alternatives)
Your own comment should not be lost on you. Why would I listen to some stranger who clearly doesn't understand the difference between simple things like cotton and bamboo..........let alone IC's
makoblade@reddit
You've missed the part where "self produced" is not actually better. At any rate, enjoy overpaying for your overpriced NVMEs.
Appropriate_Ad1792@reddit
Power supply needs to be minimum 1100w. The usage should not be over 80% of max usage
aVarangian@reddit
Isn't that just an issue of power efficiency?
makoblade@reddit
No, it doesn't. You want to ensure your max power draw is below what the PSU can provide, but in actual usage you're going to want to sit between 40-60% to maximize efficiency. With few exceptions, you will not be even close to max power draw in normal use (including gaming).
AwaitingCombat@reddit
why is your 9800x3d $634, its pulling up $479 for me on all merchants
That-Chart-4754@reddit
7200 mhz RAM and 9800x3d for cpu
Temporary-Rip3112@reddit
Wait for the 5090 brother I was also wait for the 9950x3d as well
aVarangian@reddit
Might as well get 4Tb, or a separate 500Gb OS mvme. 2Tb go by very quick if you got lots of games or use mods a lot. Or reuse old drives you got, sata ssd is fine for many older games.
Personally I'd go for a case with 140mm fans.
fpknot@reddit
Save 1k and take a 4080 super. 4090 is useless
LumpyOctopus007@reddit
For sure an OLED monitor
RealisticQuality7296@reddit
7900x is a bad choice for gaming. You can afford to buy a scalped 9800x3d
Get a liquid cooler. See Gamers Nexus charts for whichever is best
Wait two weeks and get a 5090
Probably would go at least 64gb if it was my “dream build”
Rest looks fine I guess.
luffydoc777@reddit
9800x3d + an X870E board + a 5090 should still be well within your budget; if not, look to drop the SSD and cooler to something less expensive but basically the same performance for gaming (any Gen 3 or 4 drive would do, and a Phantom Spirit Evo)
sunjester@reddit
Tbh I don't know why anyone goes for 4k at 27". At that screen size you won't really benefit from 4k. I'd go 1440p because it will give you much better performance.
PapaSandies@reddit
Purely for that insane PPI I’d assume. I’d love to see how close up you can get with a 27” 4K in person, but I’d prefer the 45” 5k2k stuff recently coming out.
tycam01@reddit
What x870e board should I get? 9800, planning on getting a 5090. I had a x870 tomahawk but I am returning it because of wifi driver issues. So I am in the market for a motherboard again. Budget for the board is $500. I don't want to run into any more problems lol
EroticBananaz@reddit
so real. I just built my first big boy pc 4080 super / 7900x but im still on my old 27" 1080p ips panel :p
randylush@reddit
Such a colossal waste lol. People need to upgrade their monitors first then their GPUs
ChrisRoadd@reddit
Why? With how shittily games are optimized these days you can barely hit 100fps max settings on 1440p. Personally wish i never went from 1080 to 1440p, now i gotta spend even more money to keep high fps
PsychoticChemist@reddit
It’s bizarre lol these people act like 1080p is some ugly monstrosity that should be avoided at all costs, even at the price of playing games at like 10 fps lol
yarglof1@reddit
Running a 4k 165hz monitor on a 1060 here, waiting for 5080. It's a waste this way as well.
randylush@reddit
I would much rather play on a 4k screen with a 1660 than 1080p with a 5080
PsychoticChemist@reddit
That’s a little ridiculous, you wouldn’t be able to run anything without reducing all visual settings to their minimum and/or rendering at a much lower resolution and scaling up to 4K
lichtspieler@reddit
The W-OLED 4k panels have the improved sub-pixel layout for fantastic text clarity and have the 4k-240Hz / 1080p-480Hz modes that work quite good for low/mid-range setups that might not be able to push gaming performance outside of 1080p.
smashybro@reddit
Eh, good monitor deals aren’t hard to come by these days. GPUs though? The stock and market situation fluctuates all the time and you’ll never know when you’ll find a deal.
Like I had a $15 off Microcenter coupon that expired by end of December and also recently opened up a no annual fee credit card that gave me a $250 intro bonus, so I went for the 4070 Ti Super first since it was $580 after tax if I bought it then. Upgraded my monitor two weeks after that and no complaints, even if my GPU was “wasted” those two weeks.
Honestly it’s a bit more fun that way too seeing the crazy FPS numbers you’ll get on a lower resolution even if you won’t play on that resolution for that long, lol. My 4070 Ti Super was doing crazy numbers on 1080p.
randylush@reddit
I'm not talking about you. You upgraded your monitor and GPU within two weeks. There are tons of people who will keep upgrading their rig and keep playing games with a 1080p monitor.
PsychoticChemist@reddit
1080p at 24” is perfectly acceptable
smashybro@reddit
Still, even if I had to wait months and could only prioritize one I’d always upgrade GPU first before monitor. I’d argue it feels better to have a GPU that’s overkill for a monitor because even if the monitor can’t show the true FPS, you’ll notice the difference with input delay and you could crank up more settings if you’re capped by your refresh rate anyway.
Upgrading a monitor first will be visually nicer outside of games but having to turn down the settings or resolution in games because your old GPU can’t handle the monitor is a waste in just another way I think is worse.
Obviously it’s ideal to do both around the same time, nobody denies that.
GlowingBall@reddit
Look man if I'm not able to benchmark myself at 400 FPS on my 60Hz monitor then how is anyone going to know how big my PC-peen is?!
doobied@reddit
If you're not running a 100inch 4k OLED don't even talk to me!
tucketnucket@reddit
Or save up to do both. If you upgrade your monitor first, you might completely tank your current performance. A GPU being able to handle 1080p does not mean it can handle 1440p or 4k.
NikolaiXPass@reddit
lol I just did this. Building a new pc, but monitor came in early. I plugged my 1070 mobile in and tanked it all to hell.
taylor_@reddit
it depends on what's important to the person. I'm a huge framerate diva. I don't care too much about resolutions (I did just finally upgrade to 2k monitors), but I need every game to run at 100+ minimum fps, ideally 150+, and I would happily drop my resolution to achieve that.
rip-droptire@reddit
Just recently threw together a 5700X3D/6900XT rig. A little dated but beastly components nonetheless!
EccentricCock@reddit
I've got the 6900XTX and it's an incredible card
deadlybydsgn@reddit
I was going to say "use DLDSR to run 1440 on that 1080," but I don't think AMD has an equivalent. Honestly, I've fallen in love with the feature.
EroticBananaz@reddit
My gpu is a 4070 super. 7900x is an AMD chip lol
deadlybydsgn@reddit
Welp, I sure read that wrong. Time for more coffee, I guess.
I'm not above looking stupid to help point the way to a great feature, though. Try it out! IMO, DLDSR (1440 onto 1080) makes everything look more crisp and clean.
EroticBananaz@reddit
No dude thank you actually. I forgot about this completely.. I'm using it in PUBG as we speak.
Thank you <3
makoblade@reddit
x670e's are probably the way to go.
PCIE 5 for a GPU is good and well, but it's not particularly worthwhile for the NVMEs, which is what x870(e) pushes, alongside WIFI7 and USB4.
If you don't need WIFI7 or USB 4 in the imminent future it's probably good to get an x670e instead of an x870e since those boards also don't have any gotcha's with using multiple NVME slots reducing the x16 GPU slot to x8.
bravo_serratus@reddit
Could stay in budget and probably get 64GB of RAM and a 4TB nvme ssd too since games are commonly 100-200GB these days. For gaming it’s not necessary but if he wants to also stream it then these would be worthwhile upgrades.
An X870 board would probably fine and maybe save $100 as well.
ConcernedPandaBoi@reddit
I've found the WD Black line to be good for storage. Not quite the top speeds of Samsung, but they've got better longevity that makes them worth it imo
Barbarossa429@reddit
I would add. Wait for the cableless mobos of 800 series.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Bro , how is mag x870 tomahawk wifi for ryzen 9 7950x3d , my use case is i am Programmer & AI Researcher , along with i Play fps games . so is this mobo better for me or should i consider something else. and my Budget is around $2700.
iszoloscope@reddit
For CPU's check that new(ish) JayzTwoCents video, apparently for certain situations an X3D CPU is not necessary or ideal. And since you're also a Programmer & AI Researcher you'll probably be better off with a non X3D CPU.
no6969el@reddit
It's only the best chip if your PC is for gaming specifically.
Leo9991@reddit
Realistically you only need to look for a Mobo that has the features you need.
Hellknightx@reddit
Yeah there's not really any point in getting an x870 over an x670e unless you absolutely need the USB ports.
Leo9991@reddit
Or over a b650e
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Do you have any suggestions specifically . best b650e mobo or x670e mobo.
Leo9991@reddit
Can't really go wrong dude. Look at the top sellers and refer to reviews to find one you want.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Bro i can get MPG X870E on $577 , the same board with x670e chipset cost just $519 i can get 5g lan port , thunderbolt port , more pcie lanes , faster usb ports for just $58 more
MCFroid@reddit
Do you live in the US? That's ridiculous for a motherboard.
The ASRock B650 Steel Legend Wifi is great for $180:
https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Legend-RyzenTM-Processors-Blazing/dp/B0CXPXBF2M
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Nah bruh i live in India.
Leo9991@reddit
Idk why you'd spend that much on a motherboard, UNLESS you can actually utilize those features. I have 2.5g lan on mine but the speed I pay for is 500/500.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
what about having 5g lan port .
Ok_Switch_1205@reddit
4090 for what? Just do some research and wait for a 5090.
BandicootKitchen1962@reddit
Stop buying overpriced parts for visuals.
tucketnucket@reddit
It's a "dream build". That typically means you buy exactly what you want. At $4,000 budget, you can afford to get nicer looking parts without making tradeoffs for performance.
BandicootKitchen1962@reddit
Meanwhile his build is using a 7900x. But he needs the hero motherboard for his single 2tb ssd.
ILovEmPlumPnWeTTT@reddit
Yes, I'd also suggest the 9800X3D, but it seems to be out of stock now. I'd consider the 7800X3D. The Hero is a $600-ish MoBo, not worth it. There is an ASUS MoBo I like that has the same hi end features, the Strix X670E-E or X870E-E. OP would save over $100 and still get PCIe 5.0 and a ton of features. It's like the next model down from the Hero. As I said, I like it, but there's plenty of other great feature packed X870E boards for less, like MSI Tomahawk.
lichtspieler@reddit
The ASUS X670E-E is a DUAL GPU themed board. Just be aware it has some funky M.2 / 8x 8x GPU lane configurations when it comes to bifurcation.
The X670E-F, the slightly cheaper board is superior to the X670E-E, since it has better I/O, better mainboard connector placement and offers the best possible gaming / storage themed bifurcation layout:
=> all usable at the same time without cutting into the GPU or M.2 lanes.
The X670E-F got also Intel LAN like most premium mainboards, since its one of the upsale features with AM5.
tucketnucket@reddit
I think the 7900x is just a bad pick and less of a budget thing.
BandicootKitchen1962@reddit
He is spending over 5k with this build.
tucketnucket@reddit
Yeah I'm doubling down. Gonna stop. OP, don't get that damn motherboard. Complete waste of money.
psimwork@reddit
Seriously - it's one thing to be a "dream build", but it's another to spend extra on a "FTW ROG LOL BYOB DEATH AND DESTRUCTION HELLFIRE" graphics card that is twice as expensive as a base model and provides little (if any) benefit. THAT is what OP is doing here. They're going under the assumption that more expensive = better.
SpookyKG@reddit
except he has a 7900x instead of a 9800x3d and a 4090 instead of a 5090
Piotr_Barcz@reddit
Ok so I'm just gonna say right now for CPU and GPU:
Get a 9950X3D or whatever the most powerful ryzen CPU is OR ALTERNATIVELY (and I'm a team blue guy through and through) get the 15th gen i9.
If you can get a 4090 then by all means get it BUT if you can get a 5090 you'll DEFINITELY be good.
Also that cooler is fine, the DH-15 is a remarkable piece of work, it's also the quietest on the market I think.
Oh and get a Vision Chrome O11 model, it's SICK.
artlastfirst@reddit
9800x3d
Obi-Vanya@reddit
dunno, get 9800x3d atleast
GhostLightning37@reddit
Biggest impact on your performance is graphics card, no reason to skip the 5090 with that budget. 9800x3d much better cpu for gaming, makes a difference for many titles even at 4k. You could save some money on the motherboard by going with a B850 chipset.
ultraboomkin@reddit
OLED monitor. A 4K one is around $1000. Spend $2k on a 5090, $1k on a top tier monitor, and $1k on the rest of the PC.
Sh1rvallah@reddit
If you can't afford the OLED and the 5090, get the OLED and a 5080.
DarkHades1234@reddit
2k or 4k OLED? I’m building my first PC with upcoming 5080 but I’m not sure between the two. I sit like 2 ft max from screen atm.
Sh1rvallah@reddit
That's kind of a personal decision really. I prefer higher frame rate at 1440 even up to 32" personally.
Really depends on the games and fps you're expecting to get though.
I'd lean to 4k with a 5080, especially if you're using it for more than gaming.
I have 1440 because I can't go back from 21;9 ultrawide. Probably going to be another generation before 5120x2160 is really practical.
DarkHades1234@reddit
I’m coming from 2k 27” IPS with 3070 laptop (got ass fps because of 16gb ram as well). I’m thinking about getting the PC and trying with my current setup first but is it that much better between 2k vs 4k in close range even outside of gaming? I tried to check them out in shops but I couldn’t see much difference (bad eyesight probably).
Sh1rvallah@reddit
I think specifically the 4K is compelling with OLED if you're not using it for gaming because text clarity in OLED is one of the minor issues. 4k basically fixed that.
DarkHades1234@reddit
32" 4k or 27" 4k? and does it negatively impact the experience if I still sit close (1.5-2 ft) to the monitor with it? also, would it be viable to use 4k monitor with 2 2k monitors? Thank you.
YEG-Wolf@reddit
I sit 1.5 - 2 ft from my 27" 2k OLED and love it
DarkHades1234@reddit
Which model are you using? I'm looking at aw2725df for 2k oled atm but it seeems to have quite a bit of drama behind it.
Wiesshund-@reddit
Awful piddly amount of storage for 4k
Responsible-Juice397@reddit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cYDzZc
Livid-Cheek7846@reddit
Wait for the 5090
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Bro , how is mag x870 tomahawk wifi for ryzen 9 7950x3d , my use case is i am Programmer & AI Researcher , along with i Play fps games . so is this mobo better for me or should i consider something else.
Livid-Cheek7846@reddit
Mag series is good so it should be fine. Check youtube for reviews on x870 boards.
yesfb@reddit
for 4k it should have a 5090 and a 9950x3d
AwaitingCombat@reddit
Put the rest of the budget into peripherals or the monitor
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Routine-Lawfulness24@reddit
Bruh get a better cpu, 9800x3d or 9950x3d. You have 4k
Hellknightx@reddit
9800x3d is at least available right now. 9950x3d is going to be very hard to get once it launches.
Routine-Lawfulness24@reddit
True but the 5090 that everyone is recommending will be even harder
LXNDSHARK@reddit
4k is what my 4090 build cost...over 2 years ago lol.
3G6A5W338E@reddit
And should ease access to 9800x3d.
7800x3d is also a fine contender.
Hellknightx@reddit
Sure, but if you can get your hands on a 9800x3d, then there's no reason to go for a 7800x3d. It's a $20 difference.
evangelism2@reddit
Alot of very obvious upgrades here.
9800x3d, or even a 9900x3d or 9950x3d
5090 or at least a 5080
Stay away from Lian LI fans, notorious for rattling, I've had 2 go on me already in less than 2 months
Don't skimp on things like KBM or Monitor. Go 4k OLED. Get a solid mouse, g502 lightspeed with the powerpad, a nice mechanical keyboard like a keychron.
Dependent_Boat_5623@reddit
4090 right now is crazy
do some research
AndyInAtlanta@reddit
Just a note, a lot of great posts regarding amazing builds at your $4000 price point, but you might fall into the "peripheral trap" if you're not careful. Does $4000 need to include a monitor, keyboard/mouse, speakers, etc? Latest high-end 4K monitors, especially those showcased last week at CES, could easily cost you $1000 to $1500. Really nice mouse and keyboard, couple hundred bucks there potentially, same goes for nice speakers and additional peripherals.
If you need "everything" you're either going to need to up your budget another $1500, or shrink the PC portion an equal amount.
notthatguypal6900@reddit
You don't need a 40 or 5090. There, saved you $1k.
Cygnus__A@reddit
7900x and 4090? where have you been? Please. If you are spending that kind of cash get the latest tech.
yuzuseltzer@reddit
indulgent and stupid. pls don't come here anymore.
3G6A5W338E@reddit
I'd say to wait a few weeks, for Q1 launches of new AMD and NVIDIA GPUs.
I'd strongly encourage HX1000i instead of RM1000x power supply
With stability in mind, I'd go for an x3d CPU. I'd use an Asrock motherboard with ECC support (most of their X870 boards do, and list the support), and unbuffered ECC DDR5-5600.
xorbe@reddit
9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5-6400, 5090, cheaper motherboard
ecktt@reddit
That is a really poor build considering what is dropping next week.
AugmentedKing@reddit
Are you really planning on buying a 4090 two weeks before the 5090 drops? I don’t see the logic for a “dream build”, maybe you can share some insight for this position. And get an X3D chip, it’ll feel better and you won’t be able to quantify why. I put a 7800X3D in my X670E Gene, and look forward to putting the last X3D one in before socket change.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
An Asrock Nova x870e will do everything the Hero will, plus doesn't do stupid shit with the 5.0 PCIE.
tehpenguinofd000m@reddit
Unless you just really like the look of the NH D15, skip it and get a thermal right peerless assassin or phantom spirit. Basically the same performance at 1/3 the price.
xAmorphous@reddit
I did a build similar to yours with more recent parts. Cost is < $3700 which gives you room for taxes and perhaps other peripherals. Your friend's build is not good.
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Shadowps9@reddit
I think this is the best build here. Unless you specifically want water cooling like in this build, or want to save 20$ by getting Ripjaws ram with no RGB, there isn't much value you can extract.
The only change I'd make is SN850x over the 990 EVO Plus. For gaming you'll never see a difference but DRAM does have some uses. You'll notice when you decrypt some pre-loaded game or install a huge one that speeds can drop dramatically.
SAMA power supply is worth a mention at 1200 watts and platinum +.
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m1sran@reddit
Get an AiO. Looks dar better in an Aquarium build. Would suggest arctic lf3, thick boi Radiator is better then Most. If you Wish you could Put lianli Fans in it Get an x3d, dar better for gaming. Get a 5090 or a 5080 instead of the 4090 Dont buy expensive rog Boards. Asus is Shit with customer Support and armoury crate Franky sucks RAM is good Dont Go Corsair psu, buy seasonic or fsp. Cheaper but still very good
Sorry for spelling Errors, Not native speaker
hollands22@reddit
Get a 9950x and 5090
hollands22@reddit
Damn that’s already $2700
ensignlee@reddit
With a $4k budget, get a 9800X3D and a 5090 for your CPU and GPU respectively.
And definitely get yourself an OLED Ultrawide monitor.
LegioX1983@reddit
Why you getting a noctua dh-15 with a 4k budget? And I really don’t think the DH-15 would work well in a fish bowl case like o11. To much air moving around, which would mess with the air flow on the fins/fans. Best to get an AIO or a case with a front 120mm or 140mm fans for a push and pull config
doobied@reddit
More RAM and bigger PSU if you want to future proof imo
yogixd3@reddit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JgdH4p
upgraded your cpu, gpu, ram, psu (shift version is better since it's atx 3.0)
Changed the case since the o11 is out of stock, but if you can find it in stock, it'll still fit within budget
it's well under budget as is but should still be after buying fans. If you do end up buying the NH-D15, make sure you get the second generation.
digitalsmear@reddit
Don't buy a 4090 right now. Yeesh.
Wait for the 50 series. We're talking literally weeks at this point, and even if you have to wait a year, you'd be better of getting a used 30-series card to hold you over until stock replenishes.
If you're going to spend that much, just buy the latest and greatest.
Aeis77@reddit
Don’t be dumb and buy a 4090 now. Half of your budget should go to your GPU, and conveniently the 5090 is exactly half of your budget. Swap the CPU for an X3D or an i7+ depending on the games you intend to play (most likely X3D is the best choice here, but check benchmarks for your specific games).
You are literally never going to notice the difference between a Samsung 990 and a Crucial P5. Skimp on the storage cost and allocate that elsewhere. Don’t overpay for a motherboard either; as long as it will hold all of the drives you want, it’s fine. Overclocking is essentially dead in 2025, and you’re talking about paying hundreds of dollars more for a mobo that’ll get you an extra 4% performance at most when you overlock.
Good choice on PSU, your parts are safe with a Corsair gold. Case is your own personal discretion, I won’t comment on that.
AnttiGopkalo@reddit
Wrong cpu for a 4k$ build? Get 7 9800x3d if you can, but if you like current one it's okay. Also, get another motherboard. Hero is overpriced and you can save money and get something better. Don't rush to buy, think about this build first and search web for any information about components.
saxovtsmike@reddit
if you buy at a higher price than B650E, you overspend, Technically the Asus Strix B650E-F-Gaming Wifi for sub 300€ does the same as the 700€ Hero. Only difference is that you only get 1x gen5 M2 + 4 Gen4 M2 instead of 2x gen5 and 2x Gen4. For about 400€ in costreduction
cpu is really questionable, with gaming in mind any 8core x3d chip before getting dual 6 Cores
IF you invest half of what you saved on the Mainboard into a 9800x3d you get way better gaming performance
Make shure ram is a Expo kit
IndividualFinish5154@reddit
hi, really think you should wait for a 5090 to drop heres what i recommend for you with your budget (amazon US prices)
• CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - $550
• Cooler: NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB - $220
• GPU: RTX 5090 (your choice whichever one) -$2000
• RAM: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5-6000 - $205
• Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVMe SSD - $180
• Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X670E - A Gaming - $220
• PSU: Corsair RM1000x (1000W, fully modular) - $150
• Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO - $200
• Fans: 6x Lian Li Uni Fan SL120 RGB - $200
adds up pretty perfectly to $3925 - this is for a white build, if you want it black itll probably be a bit less, but this is what id recommend, absolute beast of a system.
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
If you want to future proof your rig and stream you want MINIMUM 64gb of ram. You could go 96gb or 128 for better results. Also might as well go 5090. And you want a ZEN 5 CPU like the ryzen 9 9900x or am X3d chip. that one you selected is older.
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
what are those 'better results' gonna look like with 96 or 128GB of RAM?
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
Certain games already show benefit. One example is microsoft flight sim. It's a night and day difference going from 32gb to 64gb of ram. Especially if your streaming with discord open and web browser tabs open. It doesn't necessarily increase performance, but it helps with those 1% lows and is nice having lots of headroom. And for God sakes he's building a $4,000 pc. Like get at least 64gb of ram. Especially if you want "future proof"
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
how is having more RAM than you need gonna give better 1% lows?
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
When I have 64gb of ram, MSFS uses like 38ish gb. When I had 32gb of ram it literally was pegged at 100% utilization and caused issues. It's common problem for that game in particular. I mean I don't know what kind of battle you're trying to win here. The recommended specs for almost every game now is 64gb. I understand 32gb is adequate 95% of the time, but why just be adequate when building a 4k rig. Like it's a no brainer to at least go 64gb.
onurraydar@reddit
Gonna need a source on that claim that "The recommended specs for almost every game now is 64gb".
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
Its a FOUR THOUSAND dollar build. Why go 32gb
onurraydar@reddit
That has nothing to do with my question
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
Is OP playing MSFS?
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
Typical insufferable reddit elitist. Why don't you just recommend that he gets 16gb of DDR4 then if ram doesn't matter. OP would be building the only $4,000 PC on earth with 32gb of ram haha
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
You keep trying to refute a point I never made. 64GB is a perfect recommendation here. You claimed that having more than that is gonna give 'better results' tho, which I was curious about. You then started rambling and claimed that 'RAM headroom' is gonna give better 1% lows, which, again, I was curious about. You then suddenly talked about 32GB and 64GB in a specific game, which wasn't brought up by OP anywhere. Now you're insulting me for pointing that out and you try to make it look like I was suggesting 16 or 32GB of RAM, which I never did. A bit silly, aren't we?
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
You know what you're doing. I explained it absolutely effects MSFS in my particular example. Pegged at 100% utilization caused massive frame drops. video capturing software i use in the background was now insanely choppy (all my clips were recording at like 10fps instead of 60fps) and discord exacerbated the issue. Since installing 64gb of ram, no more massive frame drops every 5 min, recording software works like normal, no issues with discord, all while multiple web browser tabs open. I did explain why it matters and you kept asking questions to try to make me look foolish. I mean, if OP builds a $4,000 pc, he should be able to play MSFS no? Even if he is not into that type of game is PC should be able to run it, right??
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
I know what I'm doing? Broski, it's literally up there to read. You keep strawmanning me with those silly 32GB vs 64GB arguments. I never said that going below 64GB is a good choice. Also you keep bringing up that MSFS example, never part of the topic. The game has shown abnormal RAM usage for a couple of years now, no other game comes even close. And no, I personally wouldn't spend double on the RAM just so I can say 'bro, my PC could theoretically play MSFS at max settings while recording it'. I repeat: I'm not saying that going sub 64GB is a good choice, I'm just questioning going beyond that because fuck it basically.
rednax1206@reddit
What's the point of future proofing your build with extra RAM when you can literally slap extra RAM in it with no effort when the actual future comes around? I put 32 GB in my build. If 64 is necessary in the future, I'll buy an extra 32 in the future.
I also just upgraded my secondary machine (laptop) from 8 GB to 16 GB for a mere $20 this week.
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
Everyone is completely ignoring the fact that OP has FOUR THOUSAND dollars to spend on the build. If he was making an $1800 build then get 32gb and upgrade later like you said. But there is no reason to not go 64gb when it's a 4k build haha
rednax1206@reddit
It might be important to note that the ASUS ROG Strix 4090 OP picked out is already $2900 by itself (depending on seller, I just looked it up on amazon. PCPartPicker has it for even higher prices)
OfreakNwoW1@reddit
That's an insane waste or inaccurate. The 4090 is a $1600 GPU. (Founders edition) with the 3rd party ones are always maybe a few hundred more but not $1300 more
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Bro , how is mag x870 tomahawk wifi for ryzen 9 7950x3d , my use case is i am Programmer & AI Researcher , along with i Play fps games . so is this mobo better for me or should i consider something else.
Hellknightx@reddit
Don't bother getting an x870 over an x670e. The x670e actually has more pcie lanes. The only advantage an x870 has is Thunderbolt 3 compatibility, which most people aren't even using.
Check out this chart for comparison.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Thanks bro that really helped. now about x670e do you know which one would be more reliable.
Hellknightx@reddit
Reliability is basically a non-issue, just go with whichever one has the UEFI interface you like the most. Or whatever you like the aesthetic design of. MSI tomahawk is great, and the MSI software is very good. ASUS is good although the Armoury Crate software is pretty shit.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Bro i can get MSI MPG X670E Carbon in $519 and MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk in $438. which one do you suggest.
Hellknightx@reddit
I'm assuming not US because those prices are unreal. Just get whatever is cheapest, because realistically it doesn't make much difference unless you're sure you need more PCIe lanes or a thunderbolt USB port. If you're just using a single GPU and no extra PCIe peripherals, it won't make any difference.
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Yeah Bruh , i'm from India.
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
stop hijacking other peoples posts and make your own one?
El_Cerebro_@reddit
dp cooper vibe right.
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
whatever you're saying lil bro
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Yaa sisty , i'm just playing
XDenzelMoshingtonX@reddit
Are you winning, son?
Zealousideal_Brush59@reddit
Make your own post
El_Cerebro_@reddit
Oh forgot to mention , i am considering a 5070 for $750
DickBatman@reddit
I got a liquid freezer 3 420 for $105
pixel8knuckle@reddit
Ultra settings at 4k means 60 fps, sometimes, eith a 5090. Build a dream 1440p system and get consistent 144 fps on ultra and be future proofed.
Jbarney3699@reddit
Get a 5090 or a 50 series GPU.
I recommend the HAVN HS420 over the O11 atm. It’s just such a premium case and great experience.
GeekyNick91@reddit
So much money wasted.
The 9800x3d and 7800x3d are only really useful for 1080p gaming.
In 4k resolution especially native 4k all cpu's hit a fps cap.
And the 7600x 9600x and 9800x3d and 7800x3d hit al the same fps cap.
So the 7600x 9600x 7700x and 9700x are all just more than enough for native 4k gaming this video will explain it more.
So something like this is more than enough.
onurraydar@reddit
Does this 4k budget include the monitor or not? Cause that changes things.
Luvs_to_drink@reddit
According to pcpartpicker your build is close to 5k not 4k.
I guessed on the fans as there were MULTIPLE matches.
The case is also out of stock atm so no price added but I imagine it would be around 120-200 added depending on sales.
Your post doesnt include what CL the memory is so I picked the cheapest.
The PSU also has a 2021 version but it was the same price.
The mobo is also RIDICULOUSLY OVERPRICED.
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ensignlee@reddit
Nobody is paying $3049 for a 4090 though. That's more expensive than a 5090 would cost.
Luvs_to_drink@reddit
that was the cheapest one that matched though so if OP wants the part he said, that would be the price. Feel free to link me a cheaper option that matches though.
WaterWeedDuneHair69@reddit
Get a 7950x3d or a 9950x3d.
cd-nh@reddit
Def get the 5090 and a new monitor, but for CPU I would consider a 9950x over a 9800x3d right now with the current price gouging, esp if you're going 4K and will probably need extra power for streaming/workstation tasks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xor2Hr3oPeM
JackSpyder@reddit
Its costing me £3800 for
9800x3d X870e taichi lite 64gig 6000mhz cl30 corsair ram 4tb Samsung 990 pro ssd 1300w seasonic titanium psu Peerless assassin 140 cooler 5090 FE (if I can snag one)
I already have a case.
Dollars are almost the same as pounds sk this should be doable.
Reddit_killed_RIF@reddit
Make sure you get an oled monitor!!
Hungry_Reception_724@reddit
How is this costing your 4k? All the parts are terrible for 4k. You should be able to get top of the line everything for that amount of money....
9800x3d or the new 9950x3d, 5090... like where is your budget going that what you have is a 4k build???
Fludro@reddit
The specs look solid, and I do like your choice of cooler.
May I suggest upping to 64GB RAM and introduce a second 2TB NVMe SSD in RAID1 (mirror) mode.
Also, if you are open to considering a monitor with 21:9 aspect ratio, please do. Once you go ultrawide, you cannot go back.
tucketnucket@reddit
Definitely swap the CPU to a 9800x3D. If you're going with a fish tank case, go for an AIO. It's not really meant for air cooling.
MinuetInUrsaMajor@reddit
I know I have a chrome tab problem, but why would you only do 32GB in a $4,000 build?
Jeep-Eep@reddit
go down to a 1 tb ssd, use a 9800X3D, look at superflowers and arctic RGB fans and holy crap, 64 gigs of 30/6000 ram, the web bloat is going to heck.
NoPanic3036@reddit
X3d chip?
Leo9991@reddit
At 4k, there are much less times where the x3d realistically makes a difference. As can be seen here compared to a 7700x it really depends on the game. I suspect the 7900x might be better for streaming too, but that I'm not really sure of.
Jeep-Eep@reddit
For now
NoPanic3036@reddit
Yeah but at that budget I feel like a 9800x3d would be fine lol
Leo9991@reddit
Fair enough
catplaps@reddit
Pro tip, do all your planning here: https://pcpartpicker.com/
It helps you evaluate the options, see what other people are doing, and easily share links to your build.
Sturmadmiral@reddit
Bro do yourself a favor and get an Arctic AIO and a Viper SSD, same / better performance and extra bucks for an x870 motherboard, a 9800x3d and a 5090, if you really want that dream build.
netscorer1@reddit
Is monitor./keyboard/mouse and other accessories (chair, lighting, etc.) also need to be upgraded or are you going to spend $4k on PC only?
Cannavor@reddit
If you have the budget, get an 8 TB nvme, a 5090, and either a 9800x3d or 9950x3d, and 64GB of ram (2x32)
Flaihl@reddit
I'd go with a cheaper motherboard, a x3d chip and pick up a 5090.
Hellknightx@reddit
Yep, exactly this.
9800x3d if they want to build now, or a 9900x3d/9950x3d if they're willing to wait. 5090 and probably a Thermalright AIO or Phantom Spirit.
ChiefYemichrupki@reddit
I want three drives in my future build. One for system, one for files and one for games. As for PSU, 1000W might be overkill.
superanth@reddit
If this costs you 4k, you need to shop around.