I have autism and I cannot handle the noise after my new PC upgrades, any advice?

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blackbeard_teach1@reddit

Since when do people become relax to admit being Autistics.

Just say you want the quietest PC possible

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D121@reddit

Try some noise cancelling headphones.

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Psychobillycadillac1@reddit

noise cancelling technology is truly a blessing

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Insila@reddit

All noise cancellation I've tried have made made me dizzy a second or 2 after turning it on :(

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Totoroisacat-Alt@reddit

You need vented noise canceling headphones.

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supremo92@reddit

I experience this too. I feel a constant pressure in my head. Luckily the passive sound dampening of the foam is good enough to reduce noise, but not keep me completely deaf.

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Exactly! It's like there's some pressure pushing against my eardrums. I choose to live with it when flying as it is better than the noise of the engines. After a while I get used to (or compensate) for this pressure and don't notice it as much.

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5eppa@reddit

This. my wife was diagnosed autism a couple years back. I got her some nice noise canceling headphones. Changed her life. Practically glued to her head now.

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itsprincebaby@reddit

I just learned this recently after wearing headphones regularly for far too long long(these were in ear, but maybe it can happen with any) i got a bump on my ear and after reading some stuff realized that i probably wasnt cleaning them often enough. Furthermore you ears have their own biome of bacteria and regularly eject small pieces of wax. The bump went away when i started cleaning them regularly but also wearing them less.

I'm sure this wouldn't happen to most people but something to be aware of

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onthenerdyside@reddit

This is why I prefer over-the-ear headphones to earbuds for long-term use. Earbuds are fine in short bursts or when you're in public, but if I'm at home, the big cans are more comfortable anyway.

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Verybluevans@reddit

Can relate. I equate my noise-canceling headphones to glasses for someone who is visually impaired.

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MaddogBC@reddit

Came here to say this, I installed an automotive hourmeter in mine that has an annoying tick tock that I thought was going to drive me nuts but I don't even hear it anymore.

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Tessiia@reddit

This is more like sticking a band-aid over the issue rather than fixing it. I wear noise cancelling headphones a lot of the time, but wearing them 24/7 may not be an option for everyone.

What if you need to hear what's going on around you? Some autistic people actually hate wearing noise cancelling headphones for various reasons. Also, wearing them too much can actually worsen the issue long term as it can cause your hearing to become more sensitive.

Some autistic people use noise cancelling headphones, but please don't just assume that because you've seen it in films or on one or two people in life, that that means we all like wearing them. Autistic people are just as diverse as neurotypical people, and what helps one, may hinder another.

I'd try to actually fix the problem first and save the headphones as a last resort. If you've never tried noise cancelling headphones OP, it may be worth trying them anyway, especially for out in public, but just know, they aren't for every autistic person, and if you do find them useful, try not to overuse them.

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DreddCarnage@reddit

Why not shooting range ear plugs. They can allow you to hear conversations but dampen loud sounds significantly.

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Tessiia@reddit

Again, it depends on the person. For some, that will be enough (I've heard of some autistic people opting for similar), for others, it's not enough dampening.

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Tiranus58@reddit

Get noise cancelling headphones even if you dont have autism. They're great

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PSGAnarchy@reddit

The first time I used them I was amazed. It was quite already but when I turned them on it was silent. It was actually crazy how much it worked.

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lol022@reddit

I recently bought some and realized how noisy it was around me lol

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RhysPeanutButterCups@reddit

I would suggest the noise canceling headphones too, especially if you often have sensory issues when it comes to sound. Even once you figure out what's going on it'll be good to have a pair if you need them for whatever reason.

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MrHeffo42@reddit

Have you thought about moving the PC itself to another room and using extender cables to connect your keyboard/mouse/monitor/usb ?

Linus has a few videos on this topic because his PCs are in his house's mechanical room.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I have said in a post's edits that moving the computer isn't an option, not only do I not have enough room in my room, we are renting and are therefore not allowed to make holes in the walls to make all the nescesary cables pass through

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MrHeffo42@reddit

I am a renter and you're wrong about the holes. Im the father of a severly Autistic, non verbal child, and his condition necessitates us doing things like hard mounting TVs on the wall, securing cupboards, etc to the wall.

All you need to do is ask for permission and to return the wall to its current state when you vacate.

All the real estates and Landlords we have had have been very understanding. Just ask, the worst they can do is say no.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

We already have before to make holes for other reasons, and they're 100% saying they don't want any, they're pretty strict

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Altoidlover987@reddit

To diagnose which component is the culprit: Disconnect aio fans -> boot pc , if the noise is still there, try disconnecting the pump -> boot pc -> listen , if the noise is still there it might be the psu.

I would recommend a nice air cooler over an AIO watercooler, aircooling can be very good and is simpler; there is less risk of parts breaking and no risk of leakage

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Trollobanov@reddit

Maybe take your meds?

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GlitteringEgg3784@reddit

My aio was actualy making alot of noise since the fand usualy ramp up quite high. I changed to peerles assasin 120se and now its quiet. Itx build and the peerles fitted just and just. Please consider switching to noctua air cooler and case fans if they can fit to 140mm p14 from arctic or noctua. It will help you alot. Psu fan does not ramp up that often :)

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tylercamp@reddit

In my experience the case fans are the most common cause of persistent noise, followed by the power supply fan

Have you already tried individually turning fan speeds to 0% / the lowest possible to see exactly what’s causing it?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I tried right now after hearing some comments, so some of my comments might be outdated

I tried to check and I REALLY don't know if the power supply is making noise or if it's the PSU

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tylercamp@reddit

I suggest updating the OP with edits with any new info

PSU and Power Supply are the same thing so I’m not sure what you mean

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Ah I meant PSU and Watercooler, my bad

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tylercamp@reddit

Ah PSU or Pump

Pumps are usually very quiet, I’d bet it’s the power supply fan, but you can still unplug the pump power and see what happens

What power supply do you have?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I do not remember, and the PSU is enclosed so i can't check the label without dismounting it I believe?

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tylercamp@reddit

Did you ever figure out what it was?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Not yet, i'm struggling with alot of things, and with my dad living an hour away and other personal stuff, it's tough to meet up

Might only learn next week when we do our next attempt to figure out this thing 🙁or when we go back, we still don't know

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tylercamp@reddit

My own anecdote - I went full custom water cooling with expensive and quiet fans, lots of radiators to spread out the heat and let them run at low speeds

I wanted the performance + silence that people talk about with water cooling

But even after installing all that I found the noise wasn’t much better, whether I was idle or running full bore

The only thing I hadn’t changed was the power supply, and that turned out to be the issue

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tylercamp@reddit

Ah yeah if you don’t have the receipt then you’d need to take it out to see

If you check its noise and it is the power supply fan then you’ll need to look at getting a different power supply, those fans should NOT be replaced

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Not_Yet_Italian_1990@reddit

In addition to what others are saying, you should also try and power limit the GPU. It'll stop the fans from ramping up too much.

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aithosrds@reddit

A couple things:

First, if it even spins your PSU fan is going to be totally silent, so you want it facing where it has airflow and not a solid place.

Second, it may sound counterintuitive, but what you want isn’t a “silent” case like be quiet which tend to have poor thermals and therefore cause your noisy fans to run higher…

What you want is a case with amazing air flow and larger fans. 120mm fans have to run faster (and therefore louder) to move the same amount of air. What you want is a large case that can fit a 420mm AIO for your CPU, and for all your case fans to be 140mm.

In a case with good airflow that means your GPU will stay nice and chilly and you can use fan curves through an app like EVGA X1 so that they stay at a silent level (usually sub-60% if you have headphones on) and then use something like AIsuite III from asus to set fan curves for your case fans.

That will dramatically reduce the noise and if it’s audible at least with the 140mm fans it will be a lower frequency and less likely to overstimulate you.

It’s a lot of work swapping things out, and you might need to invest a fair bit in quality fans and a fan controller, but if sound is your priority that’s the way to do it.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

The Zalman I3 Neo was a pretty open case with amazing airflow and it made much more noise than the BeQuiet case I have now, yet I am still rather bothered

I'm still looking and considering some things at the moment, like Noctua Fans or just Air Coolers, but I keep getting contradicting statements saying both that Watercoolers are more quiet and that Air Coolers are more quiet, but thank you for your detailed help

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aithosrds@reddit

A lot of people aren’t speaking from experience but are just repeating what they’ve heard. There are channels like gamers nexus that do detailed case and cooling reviews both with stock configurations and noise normalized testing.

What I can tell you is that I’ve been building computers for 25 years and I’ve built dozens, with everything from full air cooled systems to custom water loops and with AIOs.

A full 140mm fan air cooled system is the quietest hands down except a full water cooled loop with both CPU and GPU, but that’s extremely expensive, a ton of maintenance and it isn’t worth it. AIOs can be quiet, but it depends a lot on the rest of the system and if they are 120mm or 140mm fans.

140mm fans move more air so they can run at lower RPM and have the same cooling performance. Lower RPM = quieter. That’s why if you get an AIO you want a 280mm or a 420mm and not a 360mm if noise is your primary concern.

But the case fans matter a lot, noctua fans with the rubber fasteners and bumper pads are significantly quieter than typical RGB fans from other brands.

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Britania93@reddit

You could try watercoling tge gpu ore make a frankenstein with DIY aire colling. Take the fans out and use some nocrua ore be quiet fans and use some zip ties to mount it. But put some rubber stuf between the fan and the cooling fans to midigate vibrations.

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Personal-Bobcat2990@reddit

Create custom presets for fan control and power settings. I have a default "Quiet" setting that I use for regular tasks, and a "Performance" setting for when I'm gaming or running applications that put heavy load on the GPU or CPU.

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RaceMaleficent4908@reddit

There are cases that are made specially to be noise reducing. No glass panels or anything like that. Everything with padded foam and all unused fan vents sealed with foam. I have one and you cannot hear a thing.

Nanoxia

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Varattu@reddit

Honestly, I think your best bet would be some sort of enclosure for the pc entirely. There's an LinusTechTips video "I silenced my gaming PC for $25 (+wood)", and I think something akin to that could be your best bet.

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WhenInDoubt480@reddit

If the noise is coming from the PSU, there are some PSUs with a hybrid mode where the fan stays off and only turns on after a certain temperature threshold. There are also fanless PSUs but I don’t think they offer higher wattages.

I am unsure how quiet you want the PC to be but I think less than 35 dB should be okay. I am the opposite to how you are. I need there to be a constant consistent noise that is not coming from a person 24/7 or I will start building feelings of panic. Usually this is either a ceiling fan or the A/C but my PC does the job.

My PC on average is about 42 dB and is fairly quiet imo but it is audible when not wearing open back headphones.

As for noise you can try water cooling the CPU and GPU with a quieter pump if its not an aio and getting quiet fans like Noctua and keep them at an acceptable speed for you. For aio coolers for the CPU the only quiet one that I know of and have used is Arctic’s aio cooler. Also, I believe larger fans can be wuieter while moving the same amount of air as a smaller one that is spinning faster.

Just in case, make sure your chipset and gpu drivers are up to date.

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the_gr8_one@reddit

is there a small fan on the motherboard? i swapped everything except that last year and turns out it was that making this awful noise

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I got a watercooling pump on it, but i think it MIGHT be making noise

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the_gr8_one@reddit

im looking at the model you have and it looks like there might be a fan underneath the southbridge, just like my asrock mobo. could be wrong tho.

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tomashen@reddit

Im not sure why nobody said this. Go to bios and adjust your fan curves. For gpu fans, install msi afterburner and undervolt the gpu, as well in msi afterburner adjust fan curve. Ask your dad to help with this all. Ez pz lemon squeezy

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AFCBrandon@reddit

I know you said you used the Motherboard, but I would really try using the FanControl software on Windows. I found it to be easier to configure my fan profiles with it versus going into the BIOS.

Worst case scenario is to use noise headphones.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Fancontrol doesn't work on my PC as my antivirus just doesn't like it

And I have BeQuiet fans, I looked online and quite a few people say BeQuiet is better, I feel rather stuck on this

I'd rather noise canceling headphones because wearing headphones for too long make me feel sick and I funnily enough find comfort in hearing non-computer related noises

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AFCBrandon@reddit

What antivirus do you use?

You don’t need an Anti-Virus as Windows Defender is more than enough nowadays. It isn’t 2010 anymore when it was pure garbage and it made sense to have Kaspersky or another third party software.

If you are using Windows Defender, then simply add FanControl to your exclusions in the Security settings and it’ll play nicely.

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waspwatcher@reddit

Any 3rd party antivirus should be able to add exclusions as well

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AFCBrandon@reddit

Reject the bloat. Embrace the Windows Defender 🫴

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waspwatcher@reddit

Yeah I've been using MWB for years just out of habit. Probably time to ditch it.

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Plenty-Industries@reddit

Defender and Malware Bytes is the best 1-2 combo for questionable software.

You dont need MWB constantly running IMO. Just run it if you are suspicious.

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AFCBrandon@reddit

OP, re-reading your comment. You HAVE to use a software like FanControl (there might be another one, but I don’t know if there is).

I can almost bet that it’s the 4060 Ti that’s causing the noise. You can control GPU fans in motherboard BIOS. You would need Fan Control or a proprietary software (Example: I think Asus uses Armoury Crate to control the fans).

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

My GPU fans don't turn most of the time, they are NOT the cause of any noise and i'd be able to handle it if they turned while I played, i'm fully ready to hear noises while I play (especialy demanding games) but it's difficult when it's idle while i'm simply on the internet

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aCarstairs@reddit

Is it 100 percent just fan noise? Are you hearing any high pitched relatively constant electrical buzzing? Because if yes, that's coil whine and unfortunately you can't do anything about that. Some GPUs have it pretty severely and it's relatively common.

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loliii123@reddit

You need to get to work and tune the fan profiles so they don’t spin up until your cpu is say 80C+(well outside any internet use). This is your highest priority. Actually sit down and experiment, don’t just take 15 seconds to draw a curve that “looks right” and call it job done.

If you’re still hearing case reverberation on idle, see if you can mount the fans differently (rubber mounts) or hell try using sound deadening on some of the panels.

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AFCBrandon@reddit

Hmm… just curious but how many fans do you have?

I maxed out my case (Corsair 4000d) and while it keeps my PC cool I do hear the fans ever slightly even at idle. I don’t have autism so it doesn’t bother me, but I’m not sure if that would be an annoyance to you.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

5 Fans

2 at the front ( 140mm BeQuiet Silent Wing 2 and a 120mm Be Quiet Silent Wing 3)

1 at the back (140mm Bequiet Silence wing 2)

and 2 at the top (The belong to the watercooler so i do not know what they are)

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AFCBrandon@reddit

I don’t think that’s it. You said your father used to build PC’s so I’m sure he knows about fan orientation and the such.

Listen, I still think you should try to get FanControl to work with your system. It is MUCH better than the BIOS. If your cooler monitors the liquid temperature then that would be even better.

I set my fans to silent until the liquid in my cooler (NZXT Kraken X63) gets to 50C.

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rexyoda@reddit

Say no to anti-virus, embrace windows defender

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david0990@reddit

modern AV is somewhat of a scam since windows defender does a better general job. BUT AVs should have whitelists so you can add programs you deem safe to run.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Well it's not the program itself that it's blocking, it's the .sys thing Fancontrol tries to run that gets blocked, and as far as I can tell there's no whitelisting that

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david0990@reddit

Ditch the AV imo. Unless you're doing sketchy stuff or a sucker for clicking random links and similar dangers online it's not worth it. I gave up on AV a long time ago when it was actually hurting my PC performance with background tasks constantly and hurting my FPS in game.

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thefuzzylogic@reddit

You should be able to add FanControl to your AV's allow list so it can work.

Can you describe the noise that is bothering you? Is it like a rattle, a hum, a squeal? Is it like something is vibrating against something else? Low pitch or high pitch?

Also make sure your fans are oriented properly to move air through the case. Normally you want slightly positive pressure, so orient the fans at the front or the bottom to pull cool room air in to the case then have the same number of fans minus one oriented to exhaust hot air from the back or the top of the case.

Honestly, if you are using Be Quiet fans in a Be Quiet case with the fan curve set to "silent", it really should be near silent unless something is wrong about the fan orientation or something in Windows is overriding the fan curve.

Another thought, could it be the GPU fans that are making the noise? In my experience GPU fans are a lot louder than case fans, especially at full speed.

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AFCBrandon@reddit

Yeah. I just read the upgraded from 1060 part 😬

It definitely has to be the GPU fans that are causing the noise.

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david0990@reddit

OP said they're off. I just got a new GPU and it's my first time having a card that doesn't run the fans until I hit 60c. it's nice actually.

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Epicswordmewz@reddit

You should be able to make an exception in your antivirus for it. Or you can just delete the antivirus, Windows Defender blocks pretty much everything as long as you don't do anything stupid. I use fan control, and it'll let you quiet the fans down by a lot, provided your system doesn't run particularly hot. From one autistic person to another, fan control is exactly what it sounds like you need.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I already do have a fan control software which comes directly from my MB's creators' website, is that good enough?

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nhinds42@reddit

Get rid of the antivirus

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keenansmith61@reddit

You should honestly just uninstall the anti-virus and just rely on windows defender. It comes with windows and does everything any reputable anti-virus software does.

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Dennma@reddit

This^ Fan control is truly an awesome piece of software. It's great for monitoring things as you tinker with curves.

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breakthro444@reddit

Do you need to be able to look at your computer? Attaching noise dampening sheets like you'd see in a recording booth to cardboard should alleviate a lot of the ambient sound if you put it between you and the PC.

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EvilDan69@reddit

The other alternative.. since sounds like the hardware is fine, and your preferences are the root of the issue.. Go with longer hdmi, wireless keyboard and mouse, and try remote mounting your pc higher, or even in another room. You can even go HDMI to ethernet, then back to hdmi on the other end.. have your pc in the basement, and peripherals where you want them.

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Proof_Working_1800@reddit

I'm also behind the idea of noise cancelling headphones, I tried a pair of noise cancelling buds my brother had that are used by construction workers who want to vibe but get the job done but damn their expensive at $144 (his in-laws love him). But I can go ahead and tell you jumping from a 1060 to a 40 series is a huge jump. Those cards need all those fans due to their power consumption. Keeping the CPU cool with an AIO is a good idea but perhaps adding a few more "quiet" fans directed directly at the GPU could help with the cooling. If it stays cooler then it's louder fans would have to come on or work less...but thats just a theory...

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xander-mcqueen1986@reddit

As been mentioned.

Head phones.

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maxpown3r@reddit

Brah just get long hdmi cables and put the pc in another room.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I not only do not have room in any other room to place my computer, but I also cannot make holes as we are renting and aren't allowed to make anything as drastic as holes in the walls or floors

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maxpown3r@reddit

You don’t need holes. They make 50 foot hdmi cables.

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abobus173759@reddit

he's autistic don't forget frfr

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JustABrokePoser@reddit

I switched to Be Quiet brand fans that were on sale for $47/3. I'll never go back unless it's for Noctua but that was pricier. I put my PC high up on a shelf, with the heat, haha, but I'm water cooled and stay 28c idle with my 3080 fans not running at 57c idle. I had a mustex case that came with its own fans, horrible. I don't hear anything until I start to push Gertrude with Marathon Civ 6 sessions with Huge maps.

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Tntn13@reddit

Did you remove fans when installing the stuff? Something may be loose or vibrating. Finding out what rpm makes the sound unbearable and capping it below that probably would help.

Would be a good part of troubleshooting too.

So if you JUST changed gpu at first, I will say I came from a 1080 to a 4070ti and the “coil whine” on the 4070 is comparatively crazy. Whenever the gpu is stressed it’s crazy loud. If it’s this it’s not te fan but the vibration of an electrical component. Wondering if it’s that.

Anyways, I think you could do some troubleshooting to further isolate the part of the sound profile that is unbearable and this will help you decide a path forward. If you just try and go back without doing this you may find the problem doesn’t go away and eventually find either your settings changed or a fan was damaged etc.

Isolate the sound m8.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I tried to isolate the noise but because of my shitty sense of hearing, I can't tell if it's the watercooler or the PSU, and even then because one of them is making noise, I can't properly tell if the fans are making noise either

The GPU seems silent as far as i can tell, atleast when idle, which is good

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Tntn13@reddit

Did you try turning all the fans off? Or unplugging them? In an open case this is totally fine to do. Even on the aio. (Just don’t stress test cpu while fans disabled on the aio! lol)

Oh aio = water cooler to be clear.

If you do this you can either rule out the fans or the psu and pump.

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D3moknight@reddit

Fractal Design makes lots of super quiet cases, and I used them for many years for a silent or near silent PC. My current PC is a Torrent case, which is definitely not meant to be quiet, but is still not loud, while also being very cool.

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netscorer1@reddit

Does noise only occurs when you are playing particularly demanding games? Enable Nvidia monitor to see what CPU and GPU load is when noise becomes obtrusive. It may be the case that you are trying to play your games with higher settings on the new GPU, but your CPU is now becomes a bottleneck and becomes too hot, resulting in fans going insane.

What kind of noise is this? Is it whoosh (fans are operating at high RPM), whine (PSU may be to blame) or rattle (some fans may be unbalanced)? Try to isolate where the extra noise is coming from. Try installing Fan Control and play with the settings to achieve better silencing. Don't forget to turn off fan control in motherboard software, so that only Fan Control is controlling your fans.

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boxdgm@reddit

get some noctua fans and they will be near silent

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AstronautGuy42@reddit

Changed all my fans to noctua from corsairs. Huge sound and cooling difference

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godmademelikethis@reddit

OP, this is the answer. I also have the tism and fan noise/constant droning sounds is something I can't stand. I ended up putting a full set of Noctua fans in my pc as I already had a Noctua CPU cooler. The difference is unbelievable, I cannot recommend them enough, especially for your situation.

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Current-Row1444@reddit

Or for an extremely cheap solution is to spend like 6 bucks for a box of earplugs. This way you save yourself a ton of money and can put that money towards a GPU upgrade

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RandyMuscle@reddit

Second this. Every fan in my system aside from the ones on the GPU are noctuas and that thing is silent. Even while playing games, the ceiling fan is louder than my PC. Lol when it’s idle, you have to put your ear up to it to hear anything.

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dj_fishwigy@reddit

This with my old pc. With my new pc, there's noticeable noise, but it's still quiet.

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FranticGolf@reddit

Second this and get 140s and you can have them at a lower rpm to keep noise lower than 120s...

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Morganafrey@reddit

Maybe they sale padding you can put inside your case fan that are designed to reduce noise.

If possible

I’d put the old gpu back in to see if the cpu is still as noisy.

Maybe that will help you figure out what is different.

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urbanizedoregon@reddit

Get noctua fans they’re so quite that the loudest thing on my pc is now my old hhd spinning

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Extension_Patient_47@reddit

I don't have Autism but I definitely have very good hearing that can pick up the tiniest noises, and inevitably be annoyed by them. Even little clicks from hard drive platters spinning.

Apart from buying a quieter PSU, parts or headphones; you could try a sound machine. A better insulated PC case could also be an option but at the end of the day it needs to breathe for ventilation.

I use the Dwellspring app but they have 12 hour variants on Spotify for free. If you play something like deep brown noise, it will essentially drown out all the low undertones of noises like bass. If you don't prefer fan whirring there's tons of other options.

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kaleperq@reddit

Uhh, crazy thought, maybe you could make a really sound isolating case if you cont care about assthetics and just care about noise. Like a box of insulation(of the safe to be around kind, no fiberglass for example), and with some noctua fans and a bit of geometry of the case make it silent. Check out LTTs video on the quietest pc he's done where he does something similar and it's where I get my idea. May also be a fun project for you and your father to do, some custom stuff.

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National_Ad5113@reddit

all honesty i would try and contact linus from linus techtips best wayive found for him to actually read your message is to buy something and on the checkout page you have an opinion to send a message to read on the next video he makes then just subscribe and the notification for youtube and you get the next time he makes a live video he's from my home town and I watch him all the time and he's got millions of follower from both Canada and united states

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janluigibuffon@reddit

Trick for silence is accepting to run all your components just below the thermal throttle, when hit with a typical load. It's counter-intuitive, but the cooling efficiency actually improves the higher the delta between the component temp and the "fresh" air. You can lower the RPM way more than you think you can.

Also make sure to limit your frames to a reasonable amount, because the last 5% are the least efficient and therefore loudest.

Think about how the air moves through your case and eliminate "shorts/bypasses", e.g. remove the top front fan and the front top fan if you know what I mean. Also try to eliminate the recycling of hot air within the case.

Look up "Noctua mod" to replace those whiny cheap GPU fans with something bigger. Good luck!

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raikoh05@reddit

use pwm fans and control the fan speed

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resarfc@reddit

You need to pinpoint the source of the noise. It might not be the fans, it could be something else like coil whine from the GPU or PSU.

What I would do is;

1) try disconnecting the fans to see if they are the source of the issue.

2) if they are the issue use the MB fan control software (or FanControl, SpeedFan, etc) to fine-tune the fan curves.

Try experimenting with different settings to find a balance between cooling and noise. Although this might take some trial and error!

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Several_Role_4563@reddit

Have you tried not having autism? gif

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THEYoungDuh@reddit

Quiet cases are not great, they restrict airflow so fans need to work harder to get air, eg more speed more noise.

You don't want an AIO (liquid cooler) as that will always have pump noise that is more irritating to most people

A good open case with good fans, noctua or be quiet silent wings

Also I highly recommend getting fan control

Best of luck!

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No-Lynx-90@reddit

Try swapping out the watercooler for an aircooler on the PSU.

Watercoolers can be noisy (the water part) & on top of that, AIO setups like that can default to 100%/0% fan profiles for the fans attached as well.

"Try noctua fans" Yes they'll reduce noise but only a marginal amount.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

As far as I can tell the watercooler itself doesn't make any noise

I do notice it's connected fans are making the top of my case vibrate in a noisy way despite the noise dampening material used

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whomad1215@reddit

AIOs have fan noise + the pump, they make more noise than air coolers because of that

and if it's making your case vibrate... that's more noise again. That shouldn't be happening though, sounds like something isn't secured properly

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Quintus_Cicero@reddit

AIOs have fan noise + the pump, they make more noise than air coolers because of that

They really don’t, depending on the AIO the pump can be near silent and the greater cooling potential means the fans can run slower on large AIOs. I don’t know if a 240 is actually quieter than an air cooler but a good 360 will be.

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_-Hiro-_@reddit

Everyone loves to talk about how silent AIOs are, but if you're sensitive to pump noise and your PC is quiet, it's easy to hear, especially in idle, even with the pump turned right down. Having said that, LIquid Freezer II is the closest I've heard to a silent pump.

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Quintus_Cicero@reddit

I'm very sensitive to noise and I've found that the GPU invariably made more noise than the pump. But then again, I've only ever used liquid freezer AIOs. Currently sporting a liquid freezer III 360 over a 9800X3d and the pump is inaudible.

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_-Hiro-_@reddit

Is that idle or load though? In idle I wouldn't expect the GPU fans to be spinning. Under load invariably fan noise drowns out the pump.

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Quintus_Cicero@reddit

Both. Idle, I hear both gpu and fan cases but not the pump. And under load, I hear mainly the GPU. I don’t think I’ve ever heard the pump on Arctic AIOs.

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_-Hiro-_@reddit

In idle my case fans aren't audible and my GPU fans aren't spinning, so it's just the AIO I hear.

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YouR0ckCancelThat@reddit

So your AIO is at the top of the case. Does it go fans, AIO, case or AIO, fans, case?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

The AOI is connected to the CPU I believe? I wish i knew more terms

But the fans are right against the case

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Lefthandpath_@reddit

Take some pics and maybe a video with sound/a sound recording so we can see how it's set up and what it sounds like. Can make a few more recommendations then.

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dertechie@reddit

If the fans are right against the case that turns the case into a resonator for any vibrations from the fans. You might want to take some pictures and add them to the post.

The usual setup for an AIO radiator is to have the rad connect to the case and the fans on the rad.

The other thing to check is to make sure nothing is obstructing any of your fan blades. A fan cable getting sucked into the blades makes a horrible noise.

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YouR0ckCancelThat@reddit

I meant the radiator for the AIO. So does it go radiator, fans, case?

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No-Lynx-90@reddit

This. The pump for the AIO is probably noisier than your fans. Vibrations are bad tho >.>

Throw a Be Quiet or Noctua air cooler on your CPU instead to test it out. They only cost like 1/5th of what a watercooler does. Drop like $30, $40 MAX. Make sure you configure the fan speeds for the new cooler so it scales properly (auto config is perfectly fine)

99% of setups don't need water cooling unless you're trying to do some serious overclocking. Water cooling just looks cool and lets you do silly display/RGB stuff.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Me and my dad have been told to use a watercooler...Is a Ventirad considered a air cooler? Sorry for silly questions

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No-Lynx-90@reddit

Yep. An air cooler is basically a block of metal with fans bolted to it that sticks directly on your CPU.

Water cooler's the one that's got the tubes.

With your CPU there's 0 reason to be using a watercooler. You guys got upsold on something you don't need (sorry.) They look cool though.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I made some research and I heard aircoolers are noisier than watercoolers

I'm getting contradictions left and right and it's pretty annoying

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terriblestperson@reddit

It depends on what air cooler and water cooler you're comparing and what speed they're running at, but to be frank, if you can afford the spend nothing is quieter than cooling your whole rig with Noctua.

Okay, nothing but fanless, but that's a tiny niche.

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CrispyJalepeno@reddit

The contradictions can be really annoying. Much of the problem is that, over the years, tech has developed differently. So AIO watercooling is louder some years and quieter others, and it all depends on models, and everyone has their own opinion based on only their experience.

Watercooling can be quieter on components that run hotter. Fans run less because there's a greater exchange of passive air with the larger surface area of the radiator. Some people also don't hear the pump noise as much as others.

Air cooling can be quieter because it's a simpler structure, fewer moving parts, and more than enough cooling power (depending greatly on air cooler size, which one sentence opinions tend to leave out) for the majority of people.

If the cpu fan noise shot up when the new gpu was installed, I would start there. That isn't normal behavior. Maybe something got reset by the replacement. Updating the bios could also help since it sounds like this is an older computer based on the components you had before.

My stock fan curve was also very, very aggressive. 100% fan at 60°. Don't be afraid to trim that down a lot

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smashybro@reddit

You’re getting contradictory answers because it just depends on the situation. Generally, air coolers tend to be louder at high load (so when playing games or running intensive programs) while liquid coolers are louder at idle and low load because of the pump.

Air coolers and fans have also gotten a lot better over the years in terms of noise levels. When you combine that with most modern CPUs being really efficient and not getting as hot as older CPUs, the already quieter fans can run at even lower speeds.

I’d recommend the same thing others are: get a Noctua CPU cooler or get any decently reviewed CPU cooler and replace the fan(s) with Noctua ones.

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CobraPuts@reddit

Generally water coolers are louder than good air coolers. The pump in almost every all-in-one water cooler is louder than the better quality air coolers like those made by Noctua as an example.

The water cooler you have also has two components that need their speed controlled: - the pump, which doesn’t necessarily need to run at 100% speed. - the fans on the radiator, which also don’t necessarily need to run at 100% speed

If you have only modified one or the other, there may still be a chance to make what you already have quieter.

All that said, a Noctua cpu fan cooler or a specifically quiet water cooler could help further.

I’m happy to help further if you want to reply.

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david0990@reddit

The fans must be at 100% to be vibrating the case, that's a lot of movement. you can stop fans by hand one at a time to isolate. Don't do this all the time but I do it when I need to find out which fan has the hum or whatever is bothering me. Maybe the pump too because a lot of AIO run their pumps at 100% and some are controlled through PWM. That's a reason I got a Montech Hyperflow AIO and put it on a power curve. but an air cooler would likely just be better for you, and you can throw quieter fans at a cheap tower cooler later if it's still an issue. noctua is known for their quiet fans.

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thysios4@reddit

Your case shouldn't be vibrating :/

Make sure all the screws inside are tightened properly. Might be some loose screws on some of the fans.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit

Watercooling, outside of situational cases like 0.6 kilowatt halo monstrosities (cough 5090 cough) are frankly outmoded in this day and age, between cost, noise and failure modes not measuring up to modern heat pipe based air cooling units.

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Mikisstuff@reddit

Yes they'll reduce noise but only a marginal amount.

You say that but swapping the fan in my PSU for a noctua one made a massive difference. From unbearable to unnoticeable

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AttackBacon@reddit

Yeah that's my take as well. It's probably the AIO more than anything else.

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MDA1912@reddit

You say that moving the computer isn’t an option and I believe you, but maybe for a future time:

There’s some way to make HDMI cables go really far. It might be via fiber optics. I remember a YT video on the LTT channel of Linus’s house where most of their PCs exist in the basement and then this technology connects to their monitors, keyboards, and mice. That dude is rich though, so this stuff might be too expensive And honestly don’t know. It might be worth it to you someday in the future though.

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ThatGingerGuy69@reddit

Firstly, noise cancelling headphones are a blessing and a good idea either way

Second, you may want to check your case fans and see if they’re causing the noise. It’s somewhat surprising to me that changing only the GPU would cause such a drastic increase in noise from other components

I have Thermalright case fans that cost like $12 for a 3 pack and they’re very quiet, that would be a good thing to check out for super cheap

Others have already mentioned that Noctua fans are known to be the absolute quietest if you want to try that for the CPU cooler.

But if you try all that and still have problems, then i think it might be a good idea to replace the PSU next - especially if yours rn is pretty old

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Bowserbob1979@reddit

Oftentimes, noise isn't just a linear amount of sound. It is the ramping up and down that really bother people. However, with you being autistic, I know any kind of sound can actually really hurt. There are a few things you could do upgrading fans to something like noctua fans, they are a lot quieter in general. Sometimes the frequency of a fan has to do with the speed and I will see if I can find it, gamers Nexus has a breakdown on fan noise and the causes of them.

https://youtu.be/F7ia_FZcthQ?si=1rjRLhf2SN1KLM0U

Not sure if this is something that may help. It is a deep dive into fan and PC noise.

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zap1965@reddit

I have an autistic son. My thoughts are with you.

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Allstr53190@reddit

Sony XM5 have drowned out babies screaming on the plane and the engine noise completely. They’re expensive but so worth the investment. I fly 3 times a month and I’ve had these headphones for 3 years now

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AetaCapella@reddit

I'm not gonna say that your water cooler is garbage, but MSIs really aren't the best water coolers, just a quick Google reveals that (from a nose stand point) they tend to be louder than most. Especially the 2 fan versions.

Consider the source of the noise on a cooler: fans. On an AIO you are moving that nose source right against the case vent, as opposed to an air cooler which sits inside your metal box and is probably directing its sound waves toward the back of the computer rather than straight out of the top.

A GOOD air cooler will be MUCH quieter than a mid AIO. And yes a GOOD AIO is likely going to be just as quiet. But you are gonna have to pay a premium for a near silent AIO. While plenty of low nose air coolers can be had for the 40-60 dollar range.

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Jeep-Eep@reddit

Yeah, slap some noctuas or higher end be quiets on a peerless or phantom and you have better perf and better noise.

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Xaan83@reddit

Yeah, MSI AIO are kind of bad. I had a 360R. It had tons of air in it and ended up barely even able to handle an 8700K after a year. Switched to Thermalright PS120 SE at that point, but if AIO is desired then the Artic Liquid Freeze III is the way to go.

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_lefthook@reddit

Buy noctua fans and use the low noise adapters with rubber adapters instead of screws

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klaudele@reddit

I was looking for someone to say ANYTHING about fans, idk why you are not the top rated comm and ppl just sugesting noise cancelasion bs...

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_maple_panda@reddit

Noise canceling headphones are probably cheaper than a full set of Noctuas lmao

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Jeep-Eep@reddit

Noctuas probably have a lower lifetime cost then using those.

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Tessiia@reddit

Definitely not. Not for quality noise cancelling headphones. Noctua fans are about £20 each. OPs case can take 7 fans but with them having a 240mm AIO, that's likely 6 fans. 6 noctua fans will be ~£120.

I have some Sennheiser Accentum headphones, they were £160. They are only rated 6.1 for Noise Isolation - Common Scenarios on rtings.com, which isn't amazing, yet, these are rated the best headphones in their price range across virtual every review I found (hence why I bought them). So, these are likely as cheap as you'd want to go for them to be worth buying, and still more expensive than 6 noctua fans.

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klaudele@reddit

I dont think he would be looking at this type of money(like what? 100-300$?) when he's got such a problem to solve.... Man feels iritated and finds existence HARD in his own room and you talking about saving a few bucks?

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Cannavor@reddit

Why can't you move the computer? That seems like the simplest solution. Buy peripherals that connect via bluetooth and use a longer HDMI cable to connect the screen. You could put it in a closet or a nearby room.

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painefultruth76@reddit

What kind of fans? Do the fans have silicone isolator washers? Housings?

There's a decibel rating and CFM rating on fans. And generic fans are way outclassed by special order fans.

Are the heatsinks and thermal pastes correctly applied and secured to the chips?

There are a lot of variables going in here.

I've had to repaste factory graphics cards, and that made a tremendous difference.

For some custom applications, I have swapped the PSU fans with higher end fans. Just understand it voids the warranties.

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Balthanon@reddit

My suggestion here may or may not be feasible for you, but in my opinion the best way to silence a PC is to move it into another room entirely. I did this last year and it has been amazing. My room was so silent that it almost made me uncomfortable at first and I actually added additional sounds because I was used to hearing my fans ramp up or my hard drives churn as feedback on what I was doing on the PC.

In my case we had a utility room on the other side of the wall from where I had my computer, so I just drilled a hole in the wall, put a PVC pipe inside so the wires had a smooth conduit, and bought some extra long HDMI and USB cables to feed through.

It has easily been one of the best modifications I've ever made to my desktop setup.

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Scrudge1@reddit

I would reccomend leaving the fan curves from the BIOS as default. Download software called "Fan Control".

It is very sophisticated and allows you to set proper fan curves and limits tops speeds. You can also buy better quality fans that perform well but are lower in noise volume.

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Riddler9884@reddit

Too many posts to comb through, need to know:

if you have any other fans other than the ones on your AIO.
The Layout of your AIO, if installed in a particular way it increases cavitation, a situation where not enough water reaches the pump.
I can vouch for fan control, but make sure it’s downloaded from their GitHub getting it from anywhere else could be triggering your av. If absolutely cannot do fan control you need something to control the fan curves, it will do wonders for when you are doing anything not cpu intensive. However, when the fans do have to come on because of something like a video game a noise canceling headset would help (some people here mentioned using it all the time, I’m saying only during a gaming session)

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Dijkstra_knows_your_@reddit

Basically stop fans from working with your finger to figure out which one is noisy. If you don’t figure out which fan is the problem first, everything you do just burns time and money

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Islaytomuch1@reddit

My HS80 blocks the sound perfectly.

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e6ggw34dr@reddit

I have an bequiet Silent Base 802 which came with some bequiet Pure Wings installed and they were way too loud for my ears. Your case got the same Pure Wings. I switched mine with bequiet Silent Wings 4 140mm and they are a blessing, way, way quieter then the Pure Wings. Maybe you switch them too.

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knigitz@reddit

Are you sure it's the CPU fans that are going crazy and not the GPU fans? The issue started after installing the GPU after all.

My RTX card has a noisy fan only when it reaches ~2200RPM. Below or higher than that there's no noise from my PC. I would check your fan curve on the GPU as well.

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Boryk_@reddit

Undervolting your GPU/CPU, capping (limiting) your maximum FPS, and tuning your fan profiles might be an option. Watercoolers tend to be loud even while not doing anything especially if the fan is relatively loud, air cooling, especially for less powerful components such as yours is usually the quieter option.

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Over_Barber8980@reddit

I hAvE aUtISM. It's a trend now

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DmenteGP@reddit

I'm pretty sure that it isn't the noise but the change what it's making you go nuts, try to use it for a week and try to actively ignore it. Once you get used to the new "white noise" you will not mind it.

Hope it works :c

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Leo9991@reddit

So the noise started after a GPU upgrade, correct? Is it possible the PSU can't really handle the additional load? Or is it the fans on your GPU? Coil whine?

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hdhddf@reddit

find the noise you don't like, you the bios fan control or just your had to stop each fan. it could also be the aio pump?

then eliminate that fan,.if it's all the fans then consider a good brand for low noise. a good fan should be virtually silent at below ~1200rpm. it does depend on how they're installed, rubber gaskets help. extra restrictions like grills and meshes add to the noise. air filters are even worse but can help with coil whine

watercooling is Ideal for reducing fan noise and means you can put fans in a different room or location.

the big problem with watercooling is the once you eliminate fan noise coil whine , if present, becomes very apparent.

you can eliminate coil whine on a GPU by reducing the power levels slightly or by capping the frame rate

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amabamab@reddit

Did you use named fans Like noctua or something like that? Cheap fans CAN raise the noices they make

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Legitimate-Pumpkin@reddit

Might be that it’s not the amount of noise but rather the type of noise? Maybe the new fans have some harmonica that are annoying for you. So, did you try other fans? Have you still the old case’s fans to check?

Also, is there any “coil whine” from any of your new components?

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wayward_buffalo@reddit

In addition to the Noctua fans (definitely recommend them), you can try lining the interior of your case if there's room with sound dampening materials.

Also, for what it's worth, more fans is generally quieter than less fans, especially when they're 120mm or greater, as it let's you get sufficient airflow while running at lower rpms. Five fans at a very low rom are quieter than three at a medium rpm.

You mention the sound went yo when you upgraded your video card, and that it might be the CPU fans ramping up now. More airflow might help.

Dont forget you can use Noctuas not just for your case fans, but also for your CPU fans.

Make sure you're adjusting the fan curves for your GPU too. They tend to have smaller fans that might be more audible.

When adjusting fan curves, you may find it beneficial to not make them a traditional curve, but instead to have larger discrete steps. This is because the sound of the fans ramping up and down is often much more noticeable than them running steadily at a fixed speed.

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Enough_Standard921@reddit

Hard agree. I’m running six case fans including two on my 240 AIO and once my fan curves are set I have very little fan noise. It moves tons of air at fairly low rpm and that also means my GPU fans don’t need to work as hard ad they’re constantly fed fresh air.

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Large14@reddit

Could it be your harddrive that is so noisy? I installed a NAS drive into my PC to work as a media server and it is LOUD. like really loud. I could take all the fans out and the HDD would still be making a ton of noise.

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foreverkurome@reddit

Noise cancelling headphones or just adapt to it. My h80i from 10 years ago had a proof of life sound signature whereby the fans or pump spooled up to max RPM for a couple of seconds then set themselves to their correct speed. It was very loud and bothered me for a few months cus I hate loud noises like that but eventually I just accepted it was a good thing to hear proof it was running than having no idea whether the thing was even working. I even grew to like it since computers around me at the time (those at school or prebuilts) did not do this so it made mine unique in a way.

TL;DR: Your PC making loud noises isn't a good enough reason to spend a load more money and it's good to try and find a way to make it a positive thing so it doesn't bother you. Probably check the settings to make sure something isn't set incorrectly such as fan speed

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Old-Student4579@reddit

You mentioned that you removed 3 vents and only one left on the front? It was a bad move. You should use as many vents as possible for intake (usually at the front) to have big enough airflow, at slow vent RPM. (more vents + slower speeds, which generates smaller noise moving the same amount of air).

Use sound damp foam inside the chassis on the side that is empty and can be removed. This foam should be cheap. Glue it onto that inner side of the chassis.

One thing to buy: small microphone with a rigid cable with which you can move it inside and measure noise levels to detect which part is the loudest. You need an app to use it, try to get that app which shows the measured noise levels on a graph, and shows it also with numbers. I guess you may find a free app for this purpose.

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GemSquash99@reddit

Dumb question: did you plug your new liquid cooler into the cpu fan header (the lil pins that stick up out of your motherboard) or the pump header? Because that could be making all the difference

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tenate@reddit

I too enjoy a silent computer, not because of autism it’s just what I prefer. I went with a water cooler at first and despite what many said, they were always noisier to me and I tried a few so here is what I did and my computer is generally under 36dbs and can be 29dbs on cold days.

-bought a fractal design silent case, it’s this series: https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/ Great purchase, very well insulated for sound proofing and I love the look of the define series.

-swapped all my fans to noctua as others have mentioned here, legitimately the best fans for silent case builds

-used the sea sonic silent PSUs, but they also have a psu which uses noctua fans would be just as good, see here: https://seasonic.com/power-supplies/

And that’s its, now the only time I really hear my computer run is when my office is completely silent or if I am running a game that taxes my gpu.

Also may I recommend to record your computer with the sound you are hearing and post it if you want more advice as that could help others know what you are hearing exactly.

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bitwaba@reddit

Figure out where the noise is coming from first. Take the side panel off, use the computer as normal, fire up a game and wait for the noise to get bad, then stick your ear near the case and figure out which component is noisy.

You said the the noise first started when you put the 4060 in. If it's the video card, you'll want to tune your fan curves with something like MSI afterburner

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johnstonnubar@reddit

My trick for a quiet computer is custom loop cooling, noctua fans everywhere, and using a mo-ra 420 external radiator.

Of course this is for cooling a workstation that idles at 400W, but full custom loop is a pretty solid option imo (D5 pump, not the whiny small pump).

VRM fans can be a bugger to track down and quiet - honestly at that point just throw waterblocks at them.

It's sort of the radical overkill approach...

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Puzzleheaded-Fill205@reddit

I have a silence build myself, so I can empathize with your situation.

Seems to be a power supply issue.

It sounds to me like your power supply was more than was needed for your old video card and thus the power supply fan never turned on. But now the new video card draws a lot more power, which is forcing the power supply to kick its noisy fan on that you never used to hear.

The ultimate fix would be to get a new power supply that is similarly overprovisioned for your new video card like your current power supply was overprovisioned for your old video card.

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Phoenix__Wwrong@reddit

If you switch to your old gpu, does the CPU fan become as quiet as before?

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No_Strategy107@reddit

Can you record the Noise?

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mostrengo@reddit

instaling it made my CPU fans go insane

This makes me think that the fan profile on the motherboard has reset.

Here are some concrete proposals:

Review the pump speed. In my AIO I can adjust the pump speed, and this makes is much more silent.
Play around with the fans, disconnecting them if necessary to find out the offending fan.
Adjust the fan curve (not the fan per se, the curve of all speeds vs all temperatures) until you find a noise level you tolerate.
Undervolt your GPU and adjust the fan curves.
Consider a large tower cooler instead of an AIO.
There exist PSUs with start/stop functionality. You may want to look into those.

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SimpleMaintenance433@reddit

Get a set of noise cancelling headphones.

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chosenone1242@reddit

You could put the pc in another room, if available.

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ehtio@reddit

I now this may sound odd but... Leave the case open and stop every fan individually to see which one is being noisy. Once you figure this out, then you can find a solution.

Don't jus your your finger inside, it will hurt. But it you press on the middle party, the flat bit, you cna gradually slow it down.

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CAMMAX008@reddit

Can confirm. It hurts. Don't use your finger.

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ehtio@reddit

I actually managed to get cut with a fan. And the thing is, because it's not a clean cut, it's even worst.
But for me putting some pressure in the middle part helps.

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Fuffeli@reddit

I wouldnt go for the noctua fans as they can have a weird humming. The be quiet! silent wings 4 are amazing though.

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CAMMAX008@reddit

Obviously Noctua fans are rly quiet and a great option here. But they are HELLA expensive. A whole case full of them? 😭

If you wanna try smth cheaper, I'd definitely recommend the Arctic p12. I have the pro max and they're amazing, but make a slight noise that might be irritating, the regular p12 is known to be really good and really quiet 🫰

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banxy85@reddit

Are you sure it isn't GPU coil whine since it started when you upgraded?

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Teftell@reddit

Get some car noise damping sheets and glue them inside your case's walls, move your case under your desk, wear noise damping headphones

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j_wizlo@reddit

Sounds like you don’t know where the noise is coming from. That’s step one. There is little point in trying solutions when you don’t know the problem.

Briefly altering the flow through one fan at a time will probably be enough to find out. Use speed control, unplug the fan, or block the airflow for just a second with your hand. You should be able to eliminate down to the culprit.

Good luck!

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Tessiia@reddit

Yeah, it's baffling me why everyone is offering solutions without knowing the problem.

Get some fan control software and disable every fan. Does this help? If not, it's likely the PSU or AIO pump. With all the fans off, it may he easier to figure out which is the issue. With all of the fans off, if you still can't tell, try unplugging the pump for a few seconds (may be worth monitoring your temps while doing all of this and make sure you have nothing running on the PC but the fan software). With the pump unplugged, was it better?

If turning all the fans off did help, take one fan, turn it up to 100%, is it noisy? Make a note of which fan it is, and if it's an issue. Set it back to 0%. Next fan, repeat. Does this for every one.

At the end of this, you should have isolated every single component and have notes on how much noise each one is making.

Do you have a HDD in your system? If so, unplug it (with the PC off), turn the PC on, is the noise better now? HDDs can be loud.

You could even take the PSU out of the PC entirely, and run it too see how loud it is. You'll need to jump two pins on the 24pin connector to make it run while not in the PC. If you dad doesn't know how to do this, you can either Google it. It's just a matter of putting a paper clip in the correct two holes, or if you're not confident doing that, you can buy a jumper like THIS.

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Opposite-Session-286@reddit

Bro just go work the fields and talk to the birds instead

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Practical_Adagio_504@reddit

I’ve been working with pc’s since before we had any fans in them. I too HATE fan noise. Your setup is fine, but i want you to try something for me. Remove the side of the case completely and unplug the three case fans… without the case side, NO ONE needs any case fans. Then you will only have the gpu fans, the water cooling cpu fans, and the single psu fan. Try this first and get back to us. Case side is only needed if you have a cat, and NO ONE needs any cat… lol

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FM_Hikari@reddit

The watercooler imo is the noisiest part of your setup. While the GPU might get noisy when playing heavy games, watercoolers usually stay noisy even after a while after you're done.

The best option for you is a quiet air cooling setup for your CPU with a large heatsink and more case fans. Keeping the PSU fan downwards is honestly good for its life expectancy, it's supposed to pull from underneath the computer, rather force the heat to leave sideways by pulling already hot air downwards.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I heard arguements to keep the PSU faced up instead too, i'm looking for minimal noise and while it could be better to get the heat out, I believe it's been upwards for years without issue too. Would keeping it upwards minimize the noise?

Also the watercooler seems silent, mostly the fans vibrating the case though so I'm not sure at this point

Everyone is saying alot of things, it's pretty overwhelming

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ParticularWash4679@reddit

Sounds like nonsense. Psu should have its intake facing down in modern pc cases with bottom psu placement. I don't think screw holes even align otherwise. With its own cooling circuit psu will lessen its noise contribution. It isn't psu's job to evacuate hot air away from the gpu.

If vibration is strong, it can be dampened by external application of materials.

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tucketnucket@reddit

My AIO is dead silent. Low noise level is one of the main reasons to use an AIO.

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Lougarockets@reddit

If noise is this important to you noctua fans are absolutely worth their money. They are engineered not just for volume but sounds quality.

Swap the AIO for a big ass air cooler such as the noctua dh15 (rev1 is fine).

Download FanControl (its free!) and adjust the fan curve towards less noise. You can be really lenient with the temperature as long as you stay below absolute limits for the cpu and gpu

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abbbbbcccccddddd@reddit

Stop every running fan individually to find out if one of them is to blame. Also, good airflow in a case doesn’t equal noise, if anything the open air cases are usually the quietest because nothing is restricting the airflow.

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Kqyxzoj@reddit

Probably best to start by ruling out resonance. Press/push/prod the case/fans/whatever to make sure it's not just some resonance. Because if it is, that's usually easy enough to fix.

If it's not resonance:

Install whatever tool so you can easily change the PRM of every fan, pump, and whatnot individually (possibly excluding PSU fan)
Run PC at the current annoyance level you described.
Turn off one fan/pump briefly, see if the annoying noise is still there or not.
Or if thermals allow, just turn all fans off, and just the water pump on because you are paranoid. If it still annoying, then the pump is the annoying bit. If not, turn on fans one by one. to find out which fan or fans are the cause.

Another method is to run it at normal "annoying" level, and then turn your head / change the orientation of the case / walk around a bit. See if that make a difference. Because chances are that just changing orientation of the case or location can make enough of a difference in the annoyance level. Similar test can be to briefly put a towel over intake/exhaust and check if that suddenly makes a big difference.

If fans are the culprit and you still have 120mm fans, get 140mm fans. Have that myself, and it makes things just that bit quieter due to the lower RPMs required to move the same air volume.

And in case of resonance, quite a few cases can be easily improved with a piece of rubber from an old bicycle inner tube.

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GodBearWasTaken@reddit

How’s your living situation?

A guy I knew in highschool ended solving a similar issue by having the pc in the next room and using longer cables running through the wall. Would something like that be possible for you?

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TildeCommaEsc@reddit

If everything else suggested doesn't work you could try this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1ej9ch0/linus_tech_tips_silence_any_gaming_pc_for_25_and/

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ParticularWash4679@reddit

Yep. When trains are too lound, tracks get fitted with trees and sound barrier fences.

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AvocadoMaleficent410@reddit

Just add more coolers!

Aio - get read if it. Case coolers - get read of it.

In my setup i have one cooler on CPU (Noctua) and no other coolers. PSU is passive seasonic, GPU is in silent mode and -200 mhz on afterburner (coolers are not spinning in games)

You do not need too much coolers if you can give away some performance.

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postac_czy_usionsc@reddit

buy yourself a long cable and put yor pc as far away as it is possible

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AstarothSquirrel@reddit

Have you set up the fan curves?

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Pierre_1000@reddit

Hi! Also very sensitive to noise here. The things you can work on: S -Spend time learning fan curves. Depending on your use, you most probably can set most fans to top at 40%. -Replace the fans by silent ones. For 10$ you have the mid range bequiet that are insane, then for 30$ Noctua is the king, even if bequiet also have a high end model that is pretty cool too. -Limit the computer. You CPU go insane because your GPU finally allow him to deliver more, but if you don't need that performance, limit it. Set max fps in games, undervolt the GPU, maybe underclock the CPU, there are a lot of safe ways to reduce power usage (and thus noise). -buy a more efficient CPU. That's the most expensive move here but you could switch to another more recent and efficient CPU. Since you'd have to switch platform I'd recommend looking at AMD. It's quite easy to find eight cores beast that generate less than 80w and can be easily cooled silently with a dual tower air-cooler running at 20%.

I'd love to have a follow-up of your quest, I know how silence can be precious for my autistic friends.

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mafm70@reddit

I drilled a one inch duct in the wall and placed my pc in the next room, don't know if you can do it but it works great.

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behlebros@reddit

1 use FanControl to control and tune your fans 2 make sure gpu has fresh air directed to its intake fans to avoid those to recirculate and spin up 3 put spacers on the pull side of case fans to reduce noise from rotor interfering with static objects 4 use a large cpu air cooler with one large fan

Ideally the case should have intake fans in the floor and side, and exhaust in the top and back. Intake in the front and exhaust in the top has a big chance of fresh air just being blown out without cooling anything.

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jeffchicken@reddit

I also recently upgraded my PC as well and after I installed a new AIO and three new fans, the PC sounded so much louder than it did before I upgraded. I'm not sure the exact model of PSU you have but mine is a EVGA 850 and what I didn't realize when I turned the switch off on the back is that there was a secondary switch to turn eco mode on and off, which just makes the PSU not turn the fan on until enough power is being drawn to need it. And it turns out that PSU fan was so incredibly loud compared to six other fans in my case.

So when I flipped that Eco mode back on the room went almost entirely silent, just sharing my experience. So if you have a switch on the back of your PSU that has the word Eco on it, maybe that could solve your problem. I know how it feels to really fixate on a sound until it damn near consumes you so I really hope you find a way of being comfortable while using your PC.

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ServesYouRice@reddit

Put the PC in another room, drill a hole and just pass the cables through. You seem to be using more fans than you need and the ones that come with cases which should also be lower quality.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

1: I already mentioned in an edit in the post that moving the PC is not an option

2: 5 fans is too much for what I have? Idk if i have much of a choice because 2 fans come with the watercooler, so if i removed one of the 2 front fans i'd have 3 exhaust fans and 1 intake fan and I heard that isn't very good

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ServesYouRice@reddit

If you cant isolate the PC then isolate yourself I guess with headphones

Most people use 5+ fans for the aesthetic. I use 3 (2+1) in my PC and ill move to 4 with my new build (3+1). While you will be creating negative pressure, air will always find a way out. Try using only your 140 fans and 1 exhaust 120 fan. Like others said, stop each of your fans individually and remove 2 bad actors.

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HerrSmejky@reddit

I have BeQuiet pure case 500 in my office with its stock fans and I definitely do not hear them at all. I do not use fan control. So I would advise against switching them.

- are you sure that each fan curve is set up properly in the BIOS? Pure Base 500 case fans should use PWM option

- As other commenter said, you could slow down each fan individualy if the irritating sound stops, you have the culprit.

If I had to guess, the loud fans will be the ones on the AIO....

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sapphic-chaote@reddit

Like everyone else said, you need to figure out which fan is the problem. One additional thing is that air makes noise when it hits obstacles, so it can help to cable-manage to keep your wires out of the way of airflow. It's probably only a decibel or two, but it's there. Wifi antennas can often cross in front of the rear exhaust fan, which (to me) is just barely audible.

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craigmorris78@reddit

You can usually control fan noise on modern computers but im still not super clear where the noise that troubles you is coming from. I’m hoping a local enthusiast group or shop could help you fine tune. My pc was too loud when it was first build but changing the fan curves in the bios sorted it. Temporarily you could wear earplugs or try a headset. Let us know how it goes

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Plenty-Pudding-7429@reddit

Yeah up the Tism people🙏

Get them noise cancelling earphones, the whine from my PSU that everyone tells me is not there is unbearable!🤣🤣🤣

Noice cancelling earphones have saved my peace

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audaciousmonk@reddit

If I had to guess, it’s a high pitched whine from the liquid cooler pump motor. Not the cooling fans, the liquid pump motor.

Depending on the type and how it’s controlled, there should be a speed curve in the bios settings or vendor software, can adjust it down.

My x62 occasionally resets, and the pump spins up driving me crazy because the default curve is trash. Adjusting it solves almost all of my sound irritation

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Tall_Economist7569@reddit

Time to put that pc in a soundproofed and ventilated box.

Research pc cabinets.

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Dennma@reddit

I bet it's actually your PSU. is it a compact PSU? I had a compact one in with my 3080 and the poor thing couldn't handle the load the 3080 needed. It would rev WAAAYYYY up, easily becoming audible from down the hall. It would also change fan speed in realtime with my mouse at high voltage loads, which is very fucking weird and annoying.

I got an EVGA p3 PSU and that noise went away, but the fans on the GPU were still pretty loud. So I ordered a deshroud kit from osserva on Etsy and installed 2 120mm Noctua fans on my 3080. Temps went down a little and with a good fan curve things are much quieter now. I run my fans at around 55 percent most of the time and don't have any issues. I should also note that I have a slight undervolt going some of the time, too. That can help a lot.

These cards are also just warm in general.

Oh, and I also installed a side intake fan because I have the Bequiet Dark Base 900 Rev 2. Be quiet cases have sort of poor airflow.

So, to recap:

-you can use afterburner to undervolt your GPU -maybe another case fan or 2 -you can try deshrouding if you're comfortable with it

The nuclear option, I think, is swapping cases. Seriously, Bequiet was not designed with airflow in mind. It's not the worst, but it could be way better.

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BigJohnno66@reddit

I just looked up the MAG coreliquid R240 V2. That has the pump integrated into the radiator, which could very well be the cause of the noise and vibration you get.

It's much better if the pump is on the heat block on top of the CPU where you won't hear it. Like for the coreliquid E240.

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testbot1123581321@reddit

Take medicine

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NeonChoom@reddit

When you say in your edit that moving the computer isn't an option, how about just creating a padded MDF baffle between you and the PC?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

The computer is a few feet away from me, it would be difficult for my leg room lol

I am quited cramped

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cfiggis@reddit

This software is made to provide granular control over fan speeds:

https://getfancontrol.com/

It's made by one guy who just does it to provide the service. Accepts donations if you like the software.

Recommended by Jay's Two Cents. He has a video about how to use it as well.

Dunno if that will help you, but worth a shot perhaps.

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sanz01@reddit

Buy some be quiet or noctua fans. Also change the fans on the aio or swap it for a noctua/be quiet air cooler.

It may end up being expensive since quality fans arent cheap, but your health is more important

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

It's easy to say "your health is more important"

I may have the money but i'm actively terrified of spending it, cuz that's all i been doing for the past 2 weeks

spending spending spending and SPENDING in hopes something WORKS

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Carhv@reddit

Fractal case and Noctua fans.

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BigJohnno66@reddit

I use an AIO and it is much quieter than any previous air coolers that I have used. My current cooler master AIO has a silent pump, but my previous EKWB made some noise, as well as water flowing noises. The fans on the AIO can be turned down really slow most of the time, you don't need much airflow for cooling the water.

I would suggest Noctua quiet fans, and use more/larger fans where you can and run them slower. Install AIO on the top blowing upwards, fans on the front blowing in, rear fan blowing out. That seems to be an optimal configuration if your case supports it.

Set the GPU to low noise if it has such a configuration.

If gaming then use comfortable over ear headset with good noise isolation. There might be gaming headsets with noise cancellation, which would be ideal.

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rexyoda@reddit

What kind of noise is it making specifically?

There are some mods you can do like getting a spacer to move the fans further away from the mesh panels, as those have been known to make some bad noises.

Another thing is just changing our your fans, I got an nr200 and it rattled a lot till I switched out the stock fans.

Last idea is to limit your fans to 50 percent or lower, good fans may be designed to go really fast, but if you don't need the cooling you don't need to make it go full speed. Your components should throttle themselves to remain in the safe temps

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JDude13@reddit

It’s really worth figuring out what part is making the noise.

If it’s a fan, swap it for a noctua fan, they’re expensive but worth it.

If it’s your power supply try buying one with a “fanless” mode or just buying a higher efficiency one from a reputable brand like Corsair.

If it’s your graphics card… oof.

Other options are to put the pc physically further away from you (I think Linus tech tips did a video where he ran cables from a pc in a separate room in his house) or to build a large sound proof enclosure for it with plenty of room for airflow

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Liambp@reddit

Check for resonances in your case. Sometimes fans excite resonances that buzz and sound very irritating. Your can often detect a resonance by sense of touch. If you find a resonating panel you may be able to wedge it tight, remove it or change the resonant frequency by adding weight.

Next try to identify which fan or fans are the most annoying. One crude way of doing that is to remove the case and stop the fans one by one by putting your finger on the fan hub. Don't hold it for long just long enough to detect the difference in noise. Don't try this trick with the PSU fan.

Try lowering the speed of the noisiest fan first. If it is a case fan or cpu fan use bios manual fan setting. If it is GPU fan use MSI afterburner. If it is PSU fan you are probably stuck and may have to buy a different PSU.

Don't worry if the lower fan speeds cause you cpu and GPU to get hotter. Modern cpus and gpus self regulate to prevent thermal damage. They will lower their performance though if there is inadequate cooling. You may be able to recover the lost performance with undervolting but even if you can't a few less frames per second is probably a good trade-off for a quiet PC.

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Epicharmus120@reddit

I feel for you, so though when your safe thing is disturbing.

Is it “just loud” or is it like a coil whine/“screeching” ?

They need to be handle on different ways.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

It is not Coil Whining I know that

But it is loud despite it not being loud, I have many people telling me this noise is nothing for them so I assume the computer is making a normal ammount of noises

This is mostly the part that's stressing me out, it's been 2 weeks since my old set up and i can hardly remember the "noise" that made, so i can't even compare

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Epicharmus120@reddit

Good that it’s not coil whining at least. Still sucks though.

I see a lot of good answers so I wish you best of luck and hope you can find a good solution.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

thank you, i'm desesperate so i might just head back to my old set up

i'm scared of spending more money for nothing like i been doing these past 2 weeks

it all depends on my dad though, he's pissed at the consideration that i wasted so much time and money for nothing, and he'd prefer finding a solution

but i'm not strong enough lol

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SjhanTheMajan@reddit

Does the sound bother you when playing? It could be coil whine(gpu or psu), case resonance due to the fans(change the steady state rpm -> flat fan curve at operation region). Saw another comment to turn off the fans one by one to diagnose. What does the sound sound like? oscillation or high pitched whine? The fan software i use is argus monitor.

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MankyFundoshi@reddit

You can get a fanless PSU. My lian-li fans are dead quiet

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gotthesauce22@reddit

Swap the new parts for the old ones one by one and see which one makes the noise?

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ThorneCodes@reddit

I struggled with this on my old PC too, I'm also on the spectrum and I do have auditory hypersensitivity, what helped me the most was getting a longer hdmi cable and putting my PC far away from the desk, I used to put mine inside my closet, since it was beside my desk and all of the cables reached comfortably.

Another thing you could do is having soundproofing panels between you and the PC, a few egg cartons will also do the trick and won't break the bank, this is also very useful for building a soundproof space.

When I'm in public spaces, like my uni's study room, I use my earplugs under my headphones, that way I can only hear what plays through my headphones and I don't have to be bothered by any other noises.

Give so e of these a try, every autism is different, so you have to keep looking for ways to feel more comfortable and asking what others do is helpful

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Moving my PC is not a solution, with the way my room is set up and how we're not allowed to make holes in the walls, moving my PC is not possible :(

And i'd rather not have noise canceling headphones, as wearing some for too long make me feel sick and for some reason I enjoy hearing outside noise...That is not my computer :/ so it would be very uncomfortable

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Aritche@reddit

For a temporary/permanent solution if your parents will allow it running a box fan/something for white noise to cover it up might help. I am in a similar situation(luckily my pc is in the basement below me now), but for me at least the box fan noise did not bother me and it covered up the other sound. In unrelated advice 2.4ghz wireless earbuds have been the best quality of life thing with my autism. All the benefit of wireless earbuds without the downside of the audio delay. I use them all the time I really need to get a 2nd set so I can just fully swap when battery gets low(lasts 5-6 hrs without charging but if you are going to use for 12+ hrs it can cause issue lol) instead of just using one at a time most of the time lol.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

My temporary solution is that I indeed have a non-computer fan running right now

I only feel at peace when it's on, it's been peacefull for these past 2 weeks cuz of it, thankfully my mother is understanding

Things would be faster if my dad didn't live so far away lol

And i'll have to consider it, but I doubt it'll be good for my comfort

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ThorneCodes@reddit

Try the egg cartons, they may help, also if you could post pics of the bios settings for the fans and the fans themselves, there could be more options

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LocomotiveMedical@reddit

Noise cancelling headphones. I use Sony WH1000XM5s and they're amazing

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RedditSucksIWantSync@reddit

I personally don't use any other fan software then the freeware "Fan control"

I turn off all fans besides 2 on the radiator which is front intake. When I game it goes to a mixed setting around 20-60% depending on heat etc.

You can also set Fan hysteresis in way longer intervals so it doesn't turn of fans when u open a map or inventory for 5s aswell as setting up how fast /slow they should speed up/down. I personally like 1% speed per sec up and 0.5 down. You barely notice it changing this way.

Added to that I mainly play games that don't really utilize a shitton so my stuffs undervolted pretty good

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plexx88@reddit

Add Dynamat to you case….

Or just buy a Fractal Define and some Noctua fans.

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Eren69@reddit

Go passive I guess

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theboywithno@reddit

I just spent a good few hours messing with my fans for the hundredth time and I’m pretty happy with how they are, now for another opinion,

Dude I feel you doing music production and needing to record with no additional noise is almost impossible

So a picture would help a lot but from what I’ve observed you are not able to control fan speeds outside of bios as your antivirus prevents fan control from working (I had a hell a lot of trouble with versions of this software and finally landed on one that works and turned off automatic updates)

You could buy a fan controller which you would plug the fans into which would enable you to control the fans outside of a software (mine has a remote)(they have ones with software make sure the one you get actually works cheap Chinese’s ones aren’t worth saving 20 bucks)

SOUND FOAM ACTUALLY WORKS I used pieces you would put on the wall and hot glued them anywhere reasonable SOUND TAPE IS AN OPTION Haven’t tried but thought about using this like wallpaper to cover outside of case panels and some places inside the case

AIO AIO OR AIR COOL AIR COOLER dosent matter too much BECUASE THE PUMP DOES NOT MAKE NOISE what you want is something BIG so the fans can be set LOW at least a two fan AIO or a super beefy air cooler

NOCTUA is most likely quieter than be quiet I have a few be quiet and there pretty quiet but noctua moves more air per rpm (I’m pretty sure fact check me)

YOUR CPU IS AN F not a K SO IS MINE what this means is keeping your cpu as cool as possible is important to help the cpu to sustain a higher clock for longer basically your cpu boosts to higher clock or speed depending on the temp this will help your fps but not noise this may be why it’s so much lowder

YOUR GPU I’m not sure how many fans but One with three fans and a beefy cooler will make for lower fan speeds and less noise

SOUND Deadening MATERIAL Cover the walls around your room with something to act as acoustic dampening I know you cannot damage the paint or what not but there are lots of things you can build to do this a room setup and case picture would help

Moving your pc is an OPTION I have a 50ft hdmi cord and a Ethernet box thing (it has two boxes one on each end of the Ethernet wire to plug in the mouse keyboard and or headset) with this I can basically separate a desk and pc Ensure the Ethernet thing you buy is a good one and the hdmi chord you buy is high speed or powered or what not kinda running outta steam here good luck

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Wizardofsmiles@reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRkdF06KwzY pust some distance from you and the computer

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lucagiolu@reddit

While I do support Noctuas, they are pretty expensive (and ugly lol). The preinstalled Be Quiets in your Case should also do a decent Job. It's what we recommend our customers when they want cheaper/less ugly Fans. Another (cheaper) alternative are Arctics.

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HeavyDT@reddit

Getting a truly silent build is all in the fans. Getting a case that supports 140mm fans if possible is a big one too. The bigger fans can spin slower while moving more air and even the mid teir ones are basically silent at full speed. Go with as many 140's vs 120's as possible. If you really want pure silence than Noctua is the way to go. Expensive but you'll be wondering if they are even on. If you don't care about RGB then look into replacing the radiator fans too with Noctua's too. If you have to have RGB careful research some good replacements for the Radiator that are quiet plus have good static pressure for that use case.

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Beneficial_Charge555@reddit

For what it’s worth, moving the computer to the opposite side of the room with long cables works great

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Prodigy_of_Bobo@reddit

Noise cancelling headphones are a miracle sometimes

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DavyDavisJr@reddit

I have a be-quiet AOI water cooler, and the pump is on full all the time but is very quiet. The radiator fans are not quiet at full speed. They could be replaced with quieter ones.

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foggiermeadows@reddit

Like others have said, Noctua is darn near silent and that's no exaggeration. But if you're still sensitive to the noise, I'd invest in noise cancelling headphones.

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putonyourjamjams@reddit

Is it the level of noise or the pitch of the noise? There's overall dB level, and then there's the frequency of the sound. You've said you have a fan from your previous build, and that one didn't bother you. Look at the shape of the fins between that fan and the others. If they're different, be it the curve, the width, any bumps on the fin, etc., that can change the pitch of the sound it makes.

When companies design fans, they care about the overall dB level, but they also care about the frequency of the sound. The human ear is able to tune out certain frequencies easier than others. Since this is a brain function and not an ear function, being ND can mean you (like me) don't tune out the same frequencies the same way an NT person would.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I can't tell if it's pitch or noise i'm not experienced enough..

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putonyourjamjams@reddit

I think the best way I've found to tell that is to have another noise going on that I'm okay with. I'm fine with most music, so i turn up music pretty loud. Loud enough that it's louder than the suspect noise by a noticeable margin but not enough to completely drown it out. If it's still eating at you, it's not the dB, it's the frequency.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

might be the frequency then, as when i'm watching videos i still hear it at the back of my mind

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putonyourjamjams@reddit

I would say it is then. To save yourself the trial and error of different fans from different companies and all that, you can 1. Just buy more of the exact fan you had in the previous build and use only those. 2. Play with the fan speeds to see if you can find a speed that isn't aggravating and set a profile for your fans to avoid the specific speed(s) you can't handle Or 3. Read up on the science behind changing the pitch of the sound made by physically altering the fins. This would be my last resort as throwing off the balance of the fan at all can destroy it at speed and at the very least shorten it's life significantly.

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ScubaSteve7886@reddit

be quiet! Silent Wings fans are the quietest fans money can buy. Noctua also makes excellent quality quiet fans.

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EXTREEM_404@reddit

You can set your cpu and case fan speeds in bios too. I like my pc quiet so i set mine to barely spin up to certain temperature, and then ramp up if system heats up.

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groveborn@reddit

There are rubber...uh.. I don't know what to call them, but they cause your fan to essentially float in the case. It'll prevent transmission of vibration from fan to chassis.

You could also put the whole shebang in another larger box, keeping enough air flow without allowing the noise out. Like you can build it into the desk itself, so long as the fans can vent, you won't hear it.

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2raysdiver@reddit

have you adjusted the fan curves? I made some slight changes to mine and the PC is now nearly completely silent. Most motherboards allow you to adjust case fans and cpu fan from BIOS. GPU fans can be adjusted with GPU software (GeForce Experience or AMD's Adrenaleine)

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ScreechingYetti@reddit

I bought 30 foot USB/Displayport cables and moved my PC into another room.

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Baddad211@reddit

Undervolt your GPU a little. Worked for me

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dslamngu@reddit

I like to tune the fans from the UEFI so I don’t need to run software. If you’re able to launch the UEFI and adjust the fans and pump, start by turning them all to 0%. This should stop them or slow them massively. It should be blissful silence. Then for each fan and pump, increase the % until you can barely hear it. For me, this is something like 40%. This is your idle speed. Write it down. Then increase the speed until it’s almost too loud for your comfort. Every fan has a speed where it sounds like it’s just trying too hard. This is your max preferred speed. Write that down too. Silence the fan. Find your idle and preferred max speeds for every fan and pump. Change everything to its idle speed and see if you like it. Adjust to your liking. Change everything to its max preferred. Adjust to your liking. Then on the fan curve tool, set the fans and pump to their idle speeds for all temps up to something like 75F CPU. After 75F, set a ramp up to the preferred max up to 85F. At higher than that, ramp to 100%. Set the ramp time to something high, like 1s.

If you find two fans are resonating, set the fan speeds to be 3% different between them at all temps.

Save and boot.

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XiTzCriZx@reddit

The easiest way to diagnose this is to unplug some of the fans, start with the case fans and see if that irritating noise is gone. If not, try unplugging the AIO's fans, the CPU will be perfectly fine with just the pump on for a minute or two to check how it sounds.

If neither of those work then try to put your old GPU back in, it's possible the new GPU has loud fans or a bad fan curve set. You can often underclock them for slightly less performance and much less heat, which also means lower fan speeds.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

GPU's fans are not on when idle, therefore not the cause of the noise

I believe either the pump or PSU might be making noise..I do not know

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XiTzCriZx@reddit

You can use the PC when the PSU is outside of the case, take it out and put it as far away from the PC as the cables will reach (you'll obviously have to un-cable manage), and close the case, you can put the cables through where the PSU would normally go so that the case is fully closed.

That way you can isolate which one it is, you can also do so with the case fans and/or the AIO fans disconnected too so you can verify its the AIO. At idle or in the bios your CPU won't get hot enough to heat soak the liquid as long as it wasn't hot before starting the test.

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Both_Pepper_5085@reddit

Could you place the fan in a room with an adjoined wall and just run HDMi/DP through the wall to your monitor?

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BlatantPizza@reddit

There’s 2 things making noise. The fans, and the pump on the CPU. You can open the side of the case, and stop each fan individually with your finger (touch the center cap, not the blades). This can allow you to figure out which is noisy. You can also simulate this with fan software or the bios by putting each fan to zero and listening.

If it’s none of the fans, it’s the pump. Some pumps are noisy. I just returned a AIO recently because of the pump noise. I even got a replacement of the same model because I thought it was broken at first. But nope. It was the pump.

Also, it’s possibly coil whine. This can be annoying but should only happen at heavy loads, not at idle. So the whine should be drowned out with fan noise at that point.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I'll consider the possibility

Everything feels incredibly overwhelming, I feel like the only solution is to bring to a shop and ask, but I know the workers there do not have the same hearing as they tell me things are silent..But are clearly not

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BlatantPizza@reddit

I totally feel you. I also have gone to decent lengths to silence my PC. Just open the side and stop each fan one by one with your finger. You’ll soon find out the next step. Only takes a couple minutes. If none of the fans are the culprit, it’s either the pump or PSU and you can investigate those.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Yeah i'm planning to investigate the PSU and pump as soon as possible

I do not know which of them but I still hear noise when i sillence all my fans

I just hope I won't have to spend too much more money cuz i feel like i'm going insane, and if it doesn't work out still then i'd have wasted MORE money

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ThunderSparkles@reddit

Something happened to the CPU cooling after getting the new GPU. Maybe you started getting cpu bound. But that's a 65W cpu. First i would get off the water cooler. Get a air cooler. Thermalright peerless assassin or Arctic 36. I would also check. Are all your fans connected to the same hub or fan plug on the motherboard? Sometimes what can happen is you get resonance if they run at the same speed. You might need to split them up and connect them to different headers to get control of each.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

They're call connected to different headers

And i'm getting mixed signals of people saying watercooling is better and others saying aircooling is better, so i cannot make a decision with such mixed opinions

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Bangchucker@reddit

Yeah some people are very preferential to air or water cooling. They both have pro's and cons.

In the past water cooling was much better especially if one wanted to overclock. Overclocking if your not aware is running a component beyond its normal specifications to improve performance, this requires better cooling to maintain stability and prevent damage.

These days air cooling has come a long way to where water cooling can be a little better but is really not needed even for high end systems. The reason air cooling is so much better than before is due to the improved heat transference of the heat sink.

Now days most people like water cooling for the aesthetics. They look very nice and they don't require much clearance between the cpu and case. But the cons are the noise and longevity (3-5 years and they start to degrade).

Personally I prefer air cooling for the lower maintenance and noise. I'm running an air cooler on an Intel i7-1400k and the temps are 30c idle and 75c under heavy load (this is very good).

You might have people telling you to go with one over the other but honestly it's use case and personal preference. But it sounds like you really don't need water cooling and at the lower price points it's really not functionally better than air.

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ryanmi@reddit

Can you maybe stick the PC in a spot that doesn't annoy you? Like maybe in your closet and run the wires out?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I don't have space in my room, and i cannot make holes in the walls to let cables through so I cannot put it in another room either

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ryanmi@reddit

DM me if you want to talk in depth. I'd totally love to walk you through the quietest possible parts for everything

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Dracekidjr@reddit

Alright I am unsure as to your price point for cooling, but here is what I would recommend, I am happy to clarify anything if you need.

Go with a 280mm rad if possible, as 140mm run at a lower rpm for the same airflow, making them quieter. If you aren't able to/don't want to, noctua NF-A12 will do a fine job.

On that note, I would recommend swapping to either noctua NF-A14 paired with noctua low noise adapters (they come in the box) on your water-cooler and front and back if you have the money, or arctic P14 paired with noctua low noise adapters(you'd have to buy separate) if you are looking for a better price point. From my experience, the noctua fans usually have a lower register noise, so they aren't as offensive to the ears, but the difference is really up to you.

Low noise adapters pretty much just throttle the top rpm of these fans, since you'll have enough airflow, it is always the move.

In terms of configuration, I would always recommend the rad top mounted if possible, 3x140mm on the front, 1x140mm on the back. The front should be intake, the top and back should be exhaust. Leave any side or bottom panels open to relieve static pressure. /* Some case/mobo configurations may need you to have your rad front mounted.

You also can adjust your fan curves to its minimum required before thermal throttling to help reduce noise further. Some BIOS have a way to automatically set them, using those as a starting point and adjusting while benchmarking is recommended.

Moving onto the gpu, it will make noise, it won't always be pleasant. The only way you can make it quieter without de-lidding and water cooling is going to be by under volting. By reducing power, it will not need to work as hard to stay cool. I do not know anything about under volting Nvidia GPU's but I'm sure there are resources readily available online or someone who sees this may be able to help.

So to summarize, replace stock fans on case and rad, add low noise adapters to fans, swap fan configurations, reconfigure fan curves, undervolt GPU, replace rad if all else fails. Noctua fans are great, second best is arctic P14, but user preference may vary.

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Bekabam@reddit

Air coolers are more quiet than water coolers. I would focus on getting a beefy air cooler then setting your rpm low either in bios or with software at the desktop.

How confident are you that the PC is making more (or different) noises than before? My family member had a similar situation and was hyper focused because of upgrades, and that focus led to mental friction.

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Optimal-Fix1216@reddit

put the PC in another room, run HDMI and USB cables to your desk

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jesusgodandme@reddit

Fan curve! Noctua fans! Good isolated headphones!

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Fair-enough-i-guess@reddit

I'm autistic too, so I understand how the noise may be making you feel.

I've had a few different set ups throughout the years and in my experience my water cooled set up was the one that made the most noise. Drove me nuts at times. I currently have a peerless assassin and while it's not silent, it's definitely quieter than that previous set up.

Worth trying out a different cooler at least, perhaps.

Also, have you been monitoring temps? CPU running hot could be why it was so loud too.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

My CPU is running at around 30-40C° when idle, I do not believe it runs too hot to the point of largely speeding up the fans

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Fair-enough-i-guess@reddit

That temperature is fine, so it's probably not temperature related.

Only other suggestion I can give is to make sure the fans are as snug as possible to the case to minimize vibrations if possible. I use zip ties combined with the screws to really secure them against the case. Otherwise, all you can really do is try to pin point where exactly the sound is coming from that bothers you so that you can perhaps replace that part.

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Easy-Management-3534@reddit

Wear headphones

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zt4tIk@reddit

What CPU cooler do you have, brand and type

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Already mentioned in post but i'll copy here MSI Mag Coreliquid 240R V2

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SevroAuShitTalker@reddit

Are you sure it's the fans and not the water pump? It took me awhile to get used to mine, especially if I don't have my speakers up loud or I'm watching something quiet.

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Gawdzilla27@reddit

Without an audio recording it's hard to address.

If it's fans, make sure the orientation is optimal for the case and that there are no obstructions to the fans, it might be a cable or something similar that might be causing sound.

Dampening the vibrations from fans to cases can be done with rubber disks, or some kits come with a rubber noodle anti vibration mount in place of screws (Noctua)

Noctua fans can resonate and hum. Arctic' P series tend to be quieter. The Fan Control program can also be used to dial in fan speeds from windows if you are having issues with certain rpm ranges.

The CPU spooling up due to the new GPU sounds concerning tho

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littleemp@reddit

Set your fan curves at no higher than 50 or 60% under load.

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slimejumper@reddit

i would try and figure out exactly which component is making the noise you dislike. It can’t all be bad. I personally couldn’t stand the sound of a coolermaster 240mm aio i bought, the 120mm fans made an ugly sound to me. I much prefer 140mm fans, so i swapped it for a 280mm rad with artic 140mm fans and it was much nicer.

so maybe check club fan vs gpu, vs case fans and try and see what is the annoying one. then i’d try a larger slower fan as a swap. 140mm or bigger are much more pleasant to me.

also try some custom fan control eg “fan control” software, and just restrict the max speed. Modern chips will throttle down if they get too hot and that’s fine if it keeps you happy.

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AugmentedKing@reddit

I’d swap the fans on the rad with arctic p12, sure the Noctua would be quieter but at twice to Quadruple the price. It’s a cheaper way to rule out pump noise as the offender. I’d also take out the 120 added from other source. I am aware of a fella who is bothered by sound of a 120 & 140 together on front intake duty, I cannot hear it when he demonstrated it, but it could be argued that I have selective hearing

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Niwrats@reddit

For CPU and GPU you can generally lower power limits to make them generate less heat with some hit to performance. Haven't used Intel but I assume it can be done there as well.

You can also adjust fan curves to make them quiet(er), increasing temperatures.

For PSU it is simplest to get a quiet one, though with ghetto mods you can make them quiet anyway, but it sounds like too far from your territory now.

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Ok-Communication280@reddit

are those pwm fans? 4 pins instead of the 3?

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greejlo76@reddit

Fractal Design define r5 silent has built in damper pads It is the most quiet case. I built media servers and they can be load with all the drives but this case does amazingn job

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althaz@reddit

Be Quiet makes just about the quietest fans on the market, so replacing your case fans isn't likely to help you at all. Now if most of the noise is coming from the CPU cooling fans (which are presumably whatever fans came attached to the radiator) then those fans might be worth replacing (Noctua make some great fans for this).

If the noise is bothering you, I would try something like Fan Control (https://getfancontrol.com/) and see what speed your fans are running at (Be Quiet fans are very quiet at lower speeds, but not so much at max speed). Perhaps the fan curves you've setup in BIOS aren't working for some reason or you've connected them wrong or something like that. If all your fans are running at 100%, that's the problem, lower them down to below 50% and see what temps are like or set curves where they start at 30% and only scale up when things get hotter. As an example I have my fan speeds at 30% and they start to scale up slowly at 60 degrees. Generally they are pretty tough to hear.

You can also try lowering the speed of specific fans/fan groups to a very low level (even 0) to see which one/ones are bothering you. This won't break anything with PWM fans.

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VulpesIncendium@reddit

The i5-11400F shouldn't produce that much heat. Get a single-fan Noctua air cooler instead (I really like this one: https://noctua.at/en/nh-d12l-chromax-black ).

As others mentioned, it could be the water pump making the irritating noise. I know that the loudest component in my custom water cooled system is actually the water pump. Not to mention, the MSI fans on that AIO are probably crap. Changing those out for some cheaper Arctic fans might be enough for you. But, I still think reducing the number of moving parts and going with a single fan air cooler would be the better choice.

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TKDbeast@reddit

You can also try moving your pc. It might be less of a problem if it’s under your desk.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

It is already under my desk

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TarzanSwingTrades@reddit

ABA

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puddud4@reddit

The most important thing will be to figure out which fan is causing the issue. Do some tests to figure this out. For example stop the fan with a pencil

I have a prebuilt, recently the power supply died. I got a new brand name power supply and it's so much quieter it's blowing my mind.

Another thing that can help is room placement. My desktop is close to 8 ft away from my head. Spend money on some longer cables and place the tower outside of your room. That or hide it around a corner. Maybe behind a piece of furniture. More than anything don't give it up! Your goal is achievable.

Also fun fact. Macs highly value fan noise. I had a Mac mini for a little bit. The fan was so quiet that I could only hear it if I put my ear onto the box. Mind blowing stuff. They know how to do it right

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AtYiE45MAs78@reddit

Water cooled

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ThatBlinkingRedLight@reddit

Make sure your fans can get air into the Oc because they will get louder if the machine is hotter

Make sure they are pointing in the correct direction also

Also as everyone said upgrade your fans. Either noctua or the be quiet silentwings

You should also throttle your gpu fans when not at load.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

GPU Fans run rarely

All my fans are BeQuiet fans except for the watercooler fans, but as I say, they are mostly silent outside the top of the case vibrating and I don't believe switching fans would help, only minuscule ammounts if at all

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AmperDon@reddit

Get better headphones with noise canceling

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rup3t@reddit

I had a very similar problem when I upgraded my gpu in my last build. The 1000 series cards generally run decently cool (compared to the newer cards). The gpu was running really hot and the air coming out of it was going right into my cpu causing both to run hot and loud. My solution was to put an aio on my gpu at the too exhausting out. I then put Noctua fans everywhere. This solved most of the noise issues except when running full tilt. Also often an “open” case is actually quieter cause it’s cooler so the fans don’t have to run as hard.

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BikeSawBrew@reddit

Figure out which fan/component is the biggest noise culprit. It looks like the water cooler and GPU are the two new things, so it’s probably one of those.

Try substituting the old GPU back in and see if that makes it much better. Once you find what is causing most of the annoyance, either replace its fans with quieter ones or use fan-limiting software to reduce their speed.

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VarietyWooden1510@reddit

If the fans are running abnormally fast I’d try to flash a bios update (maybe something funky is happening with the fan speeds in bios), make sure NVIDIA app/driver is up to date, worst case reinstall windows and start fresh. There is a program called FanControl. You could use this to lower the fan speeds to control the noise better I’d try the other things first to rule out any bugs. If lowering the fan speed with the app, be sure to keep an eye on the GPU temperature to make sure you’re not overheating for some odd reason. I’d start there and hope for the best.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I already mentioned I tried to lower fan speeds, it's still making bothersome noises...Like I said I think this is normal noise, so I don't know if buying anything else would help or not

Everything is up to date as far as I can tell, the old setup ran to max because I assume Intel Fan wasn't good enough to keep it fresh enough

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kamrankazemifar@reddit

You could also consider using a passive cooler like the Noctua NH-P1, it’s a passive cooler which means no fans.

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

Perhaps, but i'd still need fans to make sure any other heat has an exhaust, so I do not know if this is the right solution

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TheCatDaddy69@reddit

Undervolt to keep fan speeds down

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Liquidretro@reddit

I think you need some Temps and fan speeds to figure out what's going on here and then how to fix it vs your previous approach if just throwing parts at it and hoping your going to take care of it.

That would also help rule out incorrect cpu cooler installs, bad airflow in the case etc.

I was amazed at how much https://getfancontrol.com/ helped on a new build. Once you get it setup it ramps fan speeds up when things get hot. I have my cpu and gpu on separate profiles which helps.

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Active-Quarter-4197@reddit

Bruh people still think noctua make the best noise normalized fans living in 2015

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psteal@reddit

If I had to have a guess it's most likely your GPU fans maybe set the fan curve to whatever suits u best

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dflood75@reddit

Go full water-cooled with multiple radiators so you barely have to spin your fans.

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LALLIGA_BRUNO@reddit

Noctua fans, also change the fans on your water-cooler to noctua fans too if they are too loud. You can't really do anything about a loud pump though.

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TrickyWoo86@reddit

I've always found that pump noise is the most obnoxious sound for me, it cuts right through me in a way that no fan noise really matches.

To add a suggestion, is there any way you could move the PC case (I'm assuming it is on the desk next to you?). Adding distance reduces the volume very quickly and if you can move it under the desk (like on a small shelf or PC stands are available) as the desk itself would isolate you from some of the direct noise.

Basically, try moving things around, as others have said quiet fans, fan profile adjustments, or headphones (closed back or noise cancelling) will all go a long way to helping you solve the issue.

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crawler54@reddit

you need to figure out which specific fan(s) are the biggest problem, and work on that... sometimes the fans get in sync and create a beat that is annoying, noctua has fix for that, they sell a fan configuration that uses slightly different fan speeds.

if that's not it, i'd be looking at using 140mm fans where ever possible, because they can still move a lot of air even when turned down all the way... my arctic lf2 420 aio for instance, has so much cooling capacity that the fans aren't even turning right now, in fact neither are the fans on my 4090 liquid suprim... i have 12 fans total, seven of 'em aren't turning, i have an overclocked intel i9-12900k, it's a pig that generates lots of heat.

you should have gotten a high capacity power supply that has eco mode, the fan seldom if ever run.

https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-case-heatsink-radiator-fan-picks-hardware-busters/

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sauceywaffles@reddit

Check the manufacturer's website for both your motherboard and cpu cooler. There should be software that allows control on most fans. You can also check your bios, there might be an option to change fan speeds there too

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ElUser11212@reddit

Hawktua fans, or whatever everyone else says (Notcua fans are really silent, I got them, super quiet and efficient)

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Celcius_87@reddit

Are you using the exact same fans that you had in the old case?

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SnesySnas@reddit (OP)

I'm using 2 Be Quiet 140mm fans that came with the case (one at the front, one at the back)
1 Be Quiet 120mm fan that came from the old case (At the front, set up under the 140mm fan)
And 2 fans that came with the Watercooler

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theSkareqro@reddit

Couple of fans you can buy that's silent and also pushes a lot of air.

Phanteks T30, noctua p12, bequiet silentwings pro 4

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Wonderful_Gap1374@reddit

Second the noctua fans but also go on PC parts picker and check the decibels and make sure to pick one that’s low.

But honestly all fans will make a little noise. I actually recommend you go to a microcenter if you can and see if you can have a sales agent run you through a fans or prebuilts to see what level of noise you’re on with. I don’t recommend watching YouTube videos for noise reviews because they shove their microphones right on the fans and it doesn’t give a real perspective of the noise.

Otherwise I recommend the Bose quiet comfort ultra. It’s expensive but the only headphones I can have on for more than 4 hours and the peace and quiet it brings is insane.

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Vantamanta@reddit

ANC headphones/ear defenders.

Iirc, arctic and noctua fans are very very silent. Also consider tweaking the fan curves.

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MyGreyScreen@reddit

Do these fans have fan profiles?

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Boomerommerroomer@reddit

noctua fans are known for being some of the quietest fans on the market