Found in an Antique Shop, what are they?

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ghostpanther218@reddit

3:Northrop F-5 tiger, or it could be the Canadian version

4: Northrop flying wing prototype. You can see a jet powered version named the thunder child in the 1950 adaptation of the war of the worlds.

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Treemarshal@reddit

3 is Two N-156Fs (prototype F-5s) in front of T-38s.

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The 4th pic is the original jet flying wing YB-49 by Northrup. Sadly … and I wrote a dissertation on the history of these aircraft - all were ordered chopped up by by senator Stuart Symington, first secretary of Air Force, the materials smelted down using portable smelters brought to Northrop’s facility, in plain sight of its employees. This was in retaliation for Jack Northrup not willing to merge with Convair. Politics.

During my era of investigation, o had the honor if spending time with Gen Robert Cardenas, best known for flying the aircraft that dropped the Bell X-1 which resulted in Chick Yeager breaking the sound barrier. Gen Cardenas flew the YB-49 and many other aircraft. He autographed of photo of his YB-49 flight over the White House- and of the many souvenirs he gave me: one was a copy of his signed military orders authorizing the flight.

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Treemarshal@reddit

"Northrop wouldn't merge with Convair, so they retaliated" - that's sourced, I beleive, pretty much to a much later interview with Jack Northrop, and Northrop got to be...conspiratorial about his beloved Flying Wing being cancelled. Both the XB-35 and YB-49 had issues - major issues - and that's why they were cancelled.

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54H60-77@reddit

Notice anything between them all? Theyre Northrop designs.

The first appears to be some version of the N-1 with outer wing panel dihedral.

2 is the X-4 3 F-5 4 XB-49

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ozbikebuddy@reddit

Yep the 1st one is the N-1M, Northrop's fist fully flying wing test aircraft, 2nd is the X-4 Banton tailless test plane that helped with planes like the Cutlass

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lavardera@reddit

X-4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_X-4_Bantam

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TapOk9232@reddit

The B-2 Spirit before the B-2.

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says-nice-toTittyPMs@reddit

Antique shops are places where people sell old items to customers.

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Beepbeepboop9@reddit

Look like planes

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d_baker65@reddit

Old Air Force photos from Edwards AFB in California.

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SirNicholasPaul@reddit

I believe those are airplanes.

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PossumCock@reddit

"what are they?"

Something that I'd really love to have framed on my wall!

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comfortably_nuumb@reddit

First one is the Batplane. Don't care about the others because the first one is ~~the BATPLANE!~~

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zevonyumaxray@reddit

First one is from "Raiders of the Lost Ark"....Lol

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Id_Rather_Beach@reddit

It certainly does appear to be similar! (I thought the same)

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joshuatx@reddit

Those are YF-5As and early T-38s

Some are still intact and at museums!

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/289661/59-4987/94987

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/322871/58-1196/81196

These are probably public affairs prints of test/prototype aircraft from when these were being tested - likely from Edwards AFB

Cool find

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RMKBL_Sk1dmark@reddit

A few even say t-38 on the nose

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joshuatx@reddit

Yep, and the YF-5s say "freedom fighter"

Kind of wish they had a less marketing oriented name albeit it still sounds cool. But like, I dunno, it'd be like the MiG-21 being officially named the "comrade dart" or something.

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speedyundeadhittite@reddit

Such a beautiful design. Hats off to Jack Northrop.

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Hambone528@reddit

The F-5s/F-20s are just plain gorgeous aircraft.

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joshuatx@reddit

They really are, akin to Hawker Hunter in sleekness.

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Paradox1989@reddit

For what its worth, cool pictures but i have to ask who in the hell writes prices like that? $8 and No/100's?

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FlatusGiganticus@reddit

When I was growing up, all the older folks did it that way. I mostly remember it on checks IIRC. Maybe just a generational thing.

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mralexpratt@reddit

Would having the props in the back would made rotation on take off tricky?

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snippetsoflifebynick@reddit

Pretty sure it's a really cool Indiana Jones movie prop. https://indianajones.fandom.com/wiki/Flying_Wing

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Crag_r@reddit

More so the Indiana Jones ones took inspiration of the Northrop designs and the Nazi looks.

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speedyundeadhittite@reddit

Northrop was also inspired by the Messerschmitts.

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Crag_r@reddit

How so? Northrops designs were flying before the Germans (i think you mean Hortens). If anything the Horten designs were inspired by Northrop.

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speedyundeadhittite@reddit

You're right.

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the_friendly_one@reddit

I immediately recognized it from Indiana Jones. Good job.

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snippetsoflifebynick@reddit

I suspected that IF it was real, it was Nazi, so I searched for Nazi flying wings. That link was the first result, kinda sad given that they actually had flying wings.

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Xenolog1@reddit

The first one was one of the inspirations of the Nazi plane in “Indiana Jones and the last crusade”.

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Richecks@reddit

1 is that plane from Indiana Jones where he fights that big bald nazi and he gets chopped up by one of the propellers.

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make_stuff5@reddit

Indiana Jones movie had 2 vertical stabs, one over each engine.

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speedyundeadhittite@reddit

You can see from where they got their idea. Someone in the production design crew must have been a fan of Northrop.

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Xenolog1@reddit

https://indianajones.fandom.com/wiki/Flying_Wing

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RaolroadArt@reddit

Is #1 the inspiration for the Nazi airplane in RAIDERS OF TH LOST ARK?

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Xenolog1@reddit

Possibly so, according to the Indiana Jones Fandom Wiki

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Fickle-Classroom-277@reddit

Ah yes the X-4, Northrop's totally-not-a-ME163

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Crag_r@reddit

More so a totally-not-a DH 108. Itself in design before the allies saw a 163. Form follows function and all that.

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shoeinc@reddit

Pictures?

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Luffewaffle@reddit

Originals or copy’s?

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suckmywake175@reddit (OP)

I took one out and it didn’t seem like a commercial product but a real print. Probably hung in the guys office or something, but def not photocopies or other cheap copy.

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Luffewaffle@reddit

Damn this is the prob time they have ever been on the internet

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suckmywake175@reddit (OP)

Kinda why I at least took the pics and shared them. Figured if they are here, there’s a good chance if they are one of a kind, they might live on.

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EntakuNoKishin@reddit

If you don't want them I'd be heavily interested in them, if you're OK with it id pay for everything plus your time. Jack Northrop, the creator of the Northrop Corporation is kind of a hero of mine, so these might not mean much to a lot of people but they are to me.

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suckmywake175@reddit (OP)

So I didn’t say that I bought them…only found them. DM me and I’ll tell you where they are. If your too far away I will be back through at some point in the next couple months and we can work something out. I’m not looking for a profit here, they were like $5-$10 each and I don’t have an awesome use for them. I would rather see someone more into them get them.

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MyFrigeratorsRunning@reddit

Upvote for the offer clarity in the comments. Some will always try to lowball in DMs when people don't know exactly what they have. Not this guy ^

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EntakuNoKishin@reddit

Id say what I'm willing to pay but I don't know if it goes against TOS or rules or anything. I ain't trying to rip anyone off I just have a wall of aircraft posters and these would be a nice addition to my collection. Any who a random number not tied to this post is 100.

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ivommit@reddit

Is last one some a-12 avenger looking thing

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mexchiwa@reddit

1 is a Northrop N-1 or N-9 (I’m leaning N-9 but not sure without looking it up). 2 is X-4

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aether_42@reddit

I believe that 1 is the N-1M, the N-9M had twin bladed props, and lacks the downward angled wingtips.

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Spodiodie@reddit

The third pic. I saw one of those fly over my house today.

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Throwaway1303033042@reddit

Northrop N-1M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_N-1M

Northrop X-4 Bantam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_X-4_Bantam

3.

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jess-plays-games@reddit

N1m didn't have drooped wingtips only the N1 but that never flew just a wind tunnel model got made

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Throwaway1303033042@reddit

Nope. The N-1M had the best pings and wingtips adjusted during flight testing. See page 20:

https://media.defense.gov/2021/Aug/18/2002834486/-1/-1/0/LOOKBACK_FLYING%20WINGS-PART%201_SM.PDF

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suckmywake175@reddit (OP)

AWESOME

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GoredonTheDestroyer@reddit

Not 100% sure on 1 and 2, but 3 and 4 are F-5 Freedom Fighters and 5 is the Northrop YB-49.