OP's take is absurdly misinformed and drenched in projection. It’s clear they either didn’t watch the movie or twisted its narrative to match some personal grievance. The events they described don’t happen in Rio 2, and the characters' dynamics are far more wholesome and lighthearted than the bizarrely dark interpretation they came up with. The film is about family, self-discovery, and protecting nature, not some convoluted "cucking" drama. This unhinged rant says far more about his mindset than it does about the actual movie. It’s a wild mix of bad faith assumptions and exaggerated victimhood masquerading as criticism. It’s fair to critique stuff with a critical eye, but you have to at the very least be factually correct about the events of the movie.
It’s absurd that someone would think being nice is equivalent to flirting. It’s not, unless you’re stuck in some bizarre incel mindset where basic kindness is transactional. Blu helping Jewel wasn't about trying to earn her, it’s about personal growth and doing what was right. The idea that she "pity likes" him is pure projection with no basis in the film. Their relationship developed naturally, rooted in mutual respect and shared experiences, not some shallow, one-sided dynamic.
As for Roberto, the film doesn’t paint him as some “Chad” or romantic rival. He’s just a confident, charismatic bird who happens to know Jewel from the past. Their interaction doesn’t diminish Blu’s relationship with her. It challenges him to find his place in an unfamiliar environment. There’s no betrayal, no cucking, and nothing close to what was fabricated in OPs post.
The points weren’t ignored, they were never real to begin with. OPs critique says far more about his own insecurities than the film itself.
It’s absurd that someone would think being nice is equivalent to flirting.
It's basically every men and women, unless you are so completely sexually harmless, that the girl would rather assume you're a kid and she's being motherly. Seeing how you're defending Rio 2 on Reddit like it's a hidden cinema gem, I suspect you're used to that asexual attitude. Maybe to the point you think it's normal, and that we're the weird ones.
basic kindness is transactional.
Yes, it is. You can hide yourself behind a "I'm just being a decent person", but your non-spoken script here is "I just wanted the gratefulness and the social merit of appearing like a decent person....but I can't admit that, so I'll just downplay it....but please i'd really like some of that...but I'm not asking. but please?". Formidably unattractive to women and men alike.
Toxic nice guys scour the earth with tired feet, trying to appear like "heroes not looking for praise". It reeks of despair, and nobody's fooled by it. Not one bit.
Your interpretation is completely unrealistic. You are projecting anthromorphic human behaviors onto birds.
It is actually the opposite. Cuckolding is a bird social construct that humans imitate. It is clear that Blu is a cuck and his offspring are probably actually Roberto's
Your whole "Blu is a cuck, and Roberto’s the real dad" thing is just ridiculous. You’re accusing me of projecting human behavior onto birds while you’re the one twisting the movie into some weird cuckold fantasy that doesn’t exist. These aren’t just regular birds, they’re talking, singing, anthropomorphic characters. They literally have dance-offs. Real bird behavior doesn’t apply here, and you know it.
Rio 2 is about Blu dealing with his insecurities and finding his place, not some fucked-up love triangle. Roberto isn’t even a rival, he’s just a flashy old friend, and nothing about the movie suggests betrayal or infidelity. You’re reading way too much into something that’s just not there, and it’s honestly kind of embarrassing. Maybe chill out and enjoy the movie for what it is instead of forcing your nonsense onto it.
Yeah, nah, I’m not playing this “you fell for it” nonsense. Responding isn’t about “falling for” anything, it’s about shutting down bad takes, whether they’re genuine or trolling. It’s not for the troll, it’s for anyone else reading. The idea that someone posting unhinged garbage suddenly becomes clever or funny just because they’re “trolling” is ridiculous.
And honestly, if your takeaway is “Haha, you fell for it,” instead of addressing the actual conversation, then congrats, you’ve contributed nothing. That’s just peak lazy internet smugness. Sit down.
I really need one of you intellectuals to come up with a new one besides "sit down". Every single long winded smart guy who goes on these rants always ends with that. I get it, you need a cool one liner for your finisher, just be original is all I'm asking.
Your attempts at ad hominem and strawmanning a hypothetical projection are very obvious and ineffective. Its apparent you have a lot of simp and white knight baggage, it's ok.
Blu has all the qualities of a good parent. He's caring, nurturing, understanding. These are not the qualities of a sexually competent partner. This is why birds invented cuckolding. Females can get the best of both worlds.
Throughout the movie Blu is humiliated as he simps for Jewel, feeding her and her offspring while being scolded and rejected by her parents. This reaches a climax where Blu scores against himself in a football match. Its very obvious this parallels screenwriter Don Rhymers real life experiences as a cuckold in his second marriage
This is some next-level delusion. You're so far down the rabbit hole of your weird cuckolding fantasy that you're now making up biographical drama about the screenwriter to back up your nonsense. That’s not a critique of the movie anymore it's you projecting onto it, plain and simple.
Your whole argument about Blu not being a "sexually competent partner" is just bizarre. It’s a kids' movie about talking birds, nobody’s watching Rio 2 to analyze the sexual dynamics of animated macaws. Blu isn’t "simping" for Jewel, he’s a family man who’s learning to adapt and grow. The football match wasn’t some grand humiliation, it was a goofy, lighthearted moment in a story meant for children.
And honestly, throwing around terms like "simp" and "white knight" just screams insecurity. You’re trying so hard to make this into some dark, edgy commentary when it’s literally just a fun, wholesome movie. Maybe take a step back and figure out why you’re so obsessed with forcing an innocent family film into this twisted narrative. It's not the movie that's the issue, it's you.
Blah blah blah. You have not refuted a single one of my points. Instead, completely relying on ad hominem and your fantasy white knight strawman projection.
Take a look at your comments and tell me you are not doing an analysis of Blu's sexual fitness. You are not projecting your insecurities into a children's movie. You are not obsessed with a children's movie.
I find anon's commentary to be very on point and exactly fits the narrative in Don Rhymer's "At The Bleachers". I'm not sure why you are all over this thread trying to distract from anon's thesis.
I don't think you understand the subtle propaganda Disney is using in this film. Can you defend Roberto's character? What is his purpose in the film? How does he advance the plot? Please explain from a gender agnostic systemic analysis
This transcends sarcasm, I genuinely can’t wrap my brain around ironically arguing over the subtext of a kid’s movie about birds secretly being a deconstruction of cuck fantasies and the dynamic it plays in gender roles in both birds and humans IRL
They made no points, they just described what they thought the plot of the movie was with a short little "we really live in a society" bit at the end. Nothing to refute
Imagine being so terminally online that your first instinct is to accuse someone of using ChatGPT because their response is articulate and makes sense. Instead of engaging with the content or offering a counterpoint, you immediately resort to conspiracy-level accusations about AI. If this "reads like ChatGPT," maybe that's a reflection on how uninspired and predictable your own arguments are by comparison. Instead of whining, try contributing something of actual value to the discussion for once.
Dude I really don't know what to tell you it really felt like GPT. Honestly this one kind of does too, but I might just be tripping. Its not like I agree with the post or something, the so-called "Chad" was irrelevant enough I genuinely don't remember them from the movie, I just remember the horny frog and the finale being "birds fuck up construction equipment."
I'm angry with this movie because Blue was treated as crap by his wife and he never screamed or flippe the wing to her, they will divorce when kids are teens.
I can't imagine someone watching a kids movie and then going like: "this is just like that cuckhold porn video I saw the other day"
Anon is truly delusional
i checked the wikipedia page to see how much of this anon is making up and the other guy he’s bitching about is so irrelevant to the plot that he’s not mentioned after he’s introduced lol
Figured as much. Nobody who is actually married or partnered cares or even acknowledges cuck holding unless it’s part of their kink. Poor fantasyland anon.
Feels good being the best dude my wife has dated. Not only were her exes kinda crap, but I’m the fuckin shit. I work full time, great cook, clean, I’m a good dad and generous with my money. I give her everything I can and ask for little on return. But in return I get. Well. I get plenty 😉
Even if the movie did in fact have those things in it, I wouldn't be so hurt and relate to the movie so much. I'd just think it was depressing and whoever made it really has gripes about relationships. If OP really does take it personally, maybe he should consider his life choices and maybe attend therapy. If that's not in the movie, he should attend therapy sooner than later.
OP doesn't understand that the moral here is that the main character macaw was just being an insecure little shit whose self-sabotage very nearly ruined and possibly killed his family.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
OP's take is absurdly misinformed and drenched in projection. It’s clear they either didn’t watch the movie or twisted its narrative to match some personal grievance. The events they described don’t happen in Rio 2, and the characters' dynamics are far more wholesome and lighthearted than the bizarrely dark interpretation they came up with. The film is about family, self-discovery, and protecting nature, not some convoluted "cucking" drama. This unhinged rant says far more about his mindset than it does about the actual movie. It’s a wild mix of bad faith assumptions and exaggerated victimhood masquerading as criticism. It’s fair to critique stuff with a critical eye, but you have to at the very least be factually correct about the events of the movie.
Dry_Personality7194@reddit
Like I don’t necessarily disagree with you. But your didn’t refute a single point?
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
It’s absurd that someone would think being nice is equivalent to flirting. It’s not, unless you’re stuck in some bizarre incel mindset where basic kindness is transactional. Blu helping Jewel wasn't about trying to earn her, it’s about personal growth and doing what was right. The idea that she "pity likes" him is pure projection with no basis in the film. Their relationship developed naturally, rooted in mutual respect and shared experiences, not some shallow, one-sided dynamic.
As for Roberto, the film doesn’t paint him as some “Chad” or romantic rival. He’s just a confident, charismatic bird who happens to know Jewel from the past. Their interaction doesn’t diminish Blu’s relationship with her. It challenges him to find his place in an unfamiliar environment. There’s no betrayal, no cucking, and nothing close to what was fabricated in OPs post.
The points weren’t ignored, they were never real to begin with. OPs critique says far more about his own insecurities than the film itself.
arbiter12@reddit
It's basically every men and women, unless you are so completely sexually harmless, that the girl would rather assume you're a kid and she's being motherly. Seeing how you're defending Rio 2 on Reddit like it's a hidden cinema gem, I suspect you're used to that asexual attitude. Maybe to the point you think it's normal, and that we're the weird ones.
Yes, it is. You can hide yourself behind a "I'm just being a decent person", but your non-spoken script here is "I just wanted the gratefulness and the social merit of appearing like a decent person....but I can't admit that, so I'll just downplay it....but please i'd really like some of that...but I'm not asking. but please?". Formidably unattractive to women and men alike.
Toxic nice guys scour the earth with tired feet, trying to appear like "heroes not looking for praise". It reeks of despair, and nobody's fooled by it. Not one bit.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
His nice guy bit got him a wife and three kids. How did you do?
grasscoveredhouses@reddit
I'm not currently raising someone else's kids. so pretty good
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
F
grasscoveredhouses@reddit
......no lol
ShironeWasTaken@reddit
Goddamn i'm just reading this thread for fun but come on man you can't murder the guy like this, he has a family...
Oh wait
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
Also, yeah Rio 2 is great. I liked Migration more though. This shit ain't Shawshank Redemption. They are animated kid's movies.
magusx17@reddit
Your interpretation is completely unrealistic. You are projecting anthromorphic human behaviors onto birds.
It is actually the opposite. Cuckolding is a bird social construct that humans imitate. It is clear that Blu is a cuck and his offspring are probably actually Roberto's
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
Your whole "Blu is a cuck, and Roberto’s the real dad" thing is just ridiculous. You’re accusing me of projecting human behavior onto birds while you’re the one twisting the movie into some weird cuckold fantasy that doesn’t exist. These aren’t just regular birds, they’re talking, singing, anthropomorphic characters. They literally have dance-offs. Real bird behavior doesn’t apply here, and you know it.
Rio 2 is about Blu dealing with his insecurities and finding his place, not some fucked-up love triangle. Roberto isn’t even a rival, he’s just a flashy old friend, and nothing about the movie suggests betrayal or infidelity. You’re reading way too much into something that’s just not there, and it’s honestly kind of embarrassing. Maybe chill out and enjoy the movie for what it is instead of forcing your nonsense onto it.
helloIm-in-reddit@reddit
Dude I think he is trolling
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
Maybe I'm trolling.
Deldris@reddit
It's ok to admit you fell for it, it was pretty funny.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
Yeah, nah, I’m not playing this “you fell for it” nonsense. Responding isn’t about “falling for” anything, it’s about shutting down bad takes, whether they’re genuine or trolling. It’s not for the troll, it’s for anyone else reading. The idea that someone posting unhinged garbage suddenly becomes clever or funny just because they’re “trolling” is ridiculous.
And honestly, if your takeaway is “Haha, you fell for it,” instead of addressing the actual conversation, then congrats, you’ve contributed nothing. That’s just peak lazy internet smugness. Sit down.
Deldris@reddit
It's OK to not realize someone is joking on the internet but it's really not OK to be a pretentious dick.
Mango-D@reddit
He clearly didn't fall for it. Sit down
Deldris@reddit
I really need one of you intellectuals to come up with a new one besides "sit down". Every single long winded smart guy who goes on these rants always ends with that. I get it, you need a cool one liner for your finisher, just be original is all I'm asking.
Sad_Run_9798@reddit
I think we should replace “sit down.” with “go buy an ice cream.”
Deldris@reddit
That would be a good one to use on someone clearly mad. Like "go cool off" but snarkier.
HistoricalInternal@reddit
Sit down.
noddawizard@reddit
"Real bird behavior doesn't apply here"
"The word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird..."
lmao.
magusx17@reddit
Your attempts at ad hominem and strawmanning a hypothetical projection are very obvious and ineffective. Its apparent you have a lot of simp and white knight baggage, it's ok.
Blu has all the qualities of a good parent. He's caring, nurturing, understanding. These are not the qualities of a sexually competent partner. This is why birds invented cuckolding. Females can get the best of both worlds.
Throughout the movie Blu is humiliated as he simps for Jewel, feeding her and her offspring while being scolded and rejected by her parents. This reaches a climax where Blu scores against himself in a football match. Its very obvious this parallels screenwriter Don Rhymers real life experiences as a cuckold in his second marriage
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
This is some next-level delusion. You're so far down the rabbit hole of your weird cuckolding fantasy that you're now making up biographical drama about the screenwriter to back up your nonsense. That’s not a critique of the movie anymore it's you projecting onto it, plain and simple.
Your whole argument about Blu not being a "sexually competent partner" is just bizarre. It’s a kids' movie about talking birds, nobody’s watching Rio 2 to analyze the sexual dynamics of animated macaws. Blu isn’t "simping" for Jewel, he’s a family man who’s learning to adapt and grow. The football match wasn’t some grand humiliation, it was a goofy, lighthearted moment in a story meant for children.
And honestly, throwing around terms like "simp" and "white knight" just screams insecurity. You’re trying so hard to make this into some dark, edgy commentary when it’s literally just a fun, wholesome movie. Maybe take a step back and figure out why you’re so obsessed with forcing an innocent family film into this twisted narrative. It's not the movie that's the issue, it's you.
magusx17@reddit
Blah blah blah. You have not refuted a single one of my points. Instead, completely relying on ad hominem and your fantasy white knight strawman projection.
Take a look at your comments and tell me you are not doing an analysis of Blu's sexual fitness. You are not projecting your insecurities into a children's movie. You are not obsessed with a children's movie.
I find anon's commentary to be very on point and exactly fits the narrative in Don Rhymer's "At The Bleachers". I'm not sure why you are all over this thread trying to distract from anon's thesis.
I don't think you understand the subtle propaganda Disney is using in this film. Can you defend Roberto's character? What is his purpose in the film? How does he advance the plot? Please explain from a gender agnostic systemic analysis
Alternative_Bake_277@reddit
this is genuinely the stupidest argument i've ever seen in my life so far
Count-Cooku@reddit
Jarvis, queue up the "Redditors when sarcasm" protocol
Alternative_Bake_277@reddit
This transcends sarcasm, I genuinely can’t wrap my brain around ironically arguing over the subtext of a kid’s movie about birds secretly being a deconstruction of cuck fantasies and the dynamic it plays in gender roles in both birds and humans IRL
Giimax@reddit
male cuckoo birds don't get cucked, only female ones do.
TreeGuy521@reddit
They made no points, they just described what they thought the plot of the movie was with a short little "we really live in a society" bit at the end. Nothing to refute
ForumsDwelling@reddit
Wasn't Jewel flirting with Roberto
KebabLife2@reddit
Jews
Frygeist@reddit
What the fuck
simatrawastaken@reddit
Thank you
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
ForumsDwelling@reddit
You're 100% right but I clearly remember Jewel flirting with Roberto lol
health_throwaway195@reddit
Do people actually think about Rio 2?
SonTyp_OhneNamen@reddit
> \r/movies
> looks inside
> they care about movies
health_throwaway195@reddit
One would have thought they'd care about movies that are good.
SonTyp_OhneNamen@reddit
Well it’s not r/goodmovies, you get what you search for i guess.
Dovarc@reddit
Why is that sub banned?
coolguy3211231@reddit
They ran out of good movies
beansAnalyst@reddit
You Jewish by any chance? You sound like a good lawyer.
Vast-Combination4046@reddit
Gottem
health_throwaway195@reddit
fair enough
lce_Fight@reddit
Yes
health_throwaway195@reddit
What's your take on it
mehliana@reddit
My anime sex pillow responds the same tho!! -op probably
Yeseylon@reddit
Many such cases
Vfyn@reddit
Ok but how am I supposed to understand what this means without the fake and the gay
kronos91O@reddit
Stop kink shaming OP
skunkbrains@reddit
...Did you seriously throw the post into ChatGPT to see how it responded? This reads exactly like one of its chats.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
Imagine being so terminally online that your first instinct is to accuse someone of using ChatGPT because their response is articulate and makes sense. Instead of engaging with the content or offering a counterpoint, you immediately resort to conspiracy-level accusations about AI. If this "reads like ChatGPT," maybe that's a reflection on how uninspired and predictable your own arguments are by comparison. Instead of whining, try contributing something of actual value to the discussion for once.
skunkbrains@reddit
Dude I really don't know what to tell you it really felt like GPT. Honestly this one kind of does too, but I might just be tripping. Its not like I agree with the post or something, the so-called "Chad" was irrelevant enough I genuinely don't remember them from the movie, I just remember the horny frog and the finale being "birds fuck up construction equipment."
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
cell689@reddit
Holy mother of cope, looks like we unwillingly rustled some feathers in the Rio fanbase.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
I'm a frog.
jacobjr23@reddit
For sure AI
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
For sure, illiterate.
Thin-Concentrate5477@reddit
ChatGPT just burned you again, bro.
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
GPT These nuts.
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
Maybe they were horny?
FancyFrogFootwork@reddit
So, you're saying Blu cucked OP?
dirschau@reddit
OP could get cucked by aldente spaghetti
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
Yes
jacobjr23@reddit
Is this AI?
OldManMoment@reddit
What else is new
opinion immediately disregarded
basilisk_boi2@reddit
I prefer op’s telling of rio 2
HiveMindKing@reddit
Sounds cuckish
akamalk@reddit
I'm angry with this movie because Blue was treated as crap by his wife and he never screamed or flippe the wing to her, they will divorce when kids are teens.
Amethyst_Crimson@reddit
There was a 2nd movie??
Weppih@reddit
blue sisters is this true?
LemonFlavoredMelon@reddit
Watch Shrek 2, its' superior.
Shimari5@reddit
"life of the typical male" Speak for yourself
FeeblyBee@reddit
ok
GoodlifeFOB@reddit
I can't imagine someone watching a kids movie and then going like: "this is just like that cuckhold porn video I saw the other day" Anon is truly delusional
holnicote@reddit
Fake and gay analysis please
thelastforest2@reddit
The patience some women have.
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
His hypothetical wife should get with the Chad bird.
Gay_Reichskommissar@reddit
Adam Sandler pulled a bitch while he was a bee, cuckoldry truly knows no bounds
FinestCrusader@reddit
He didn't call her that to her face, are you stupid? Anon has manners
Catsindahood@reddit
Come now, we all know OP isn't married and didn't go to the theater with his family. He's just imagining what it would be like.
thelastforest2@reddit
And even in the wildest of his dreams, he couldn't be somewhat decent to his imaginary wife, lol.
Proxidize@reddit
Always loved the soundtracks from the Rio movies, Poisonous Love especially from the second film, just a lovestruck little frog song
cheese_enjoyer_2@reddit
The nest has fallen. Billions must fly.
pokexchespin@reddit
i checked the wikipedia page to see how much of this anon is making up and the other guy he’s bitching about is so irrelevant to the plot that he’s not mentioned after he’s introduced lol
HistoricalInternal@reddit
Figured as much. Nobody who is actually married or partnered cares or even acknowledges cuck holding unless it’s part of their kink. Poor fantasyland anon.
tanalto@reddit
Who tf watches bird movies?
bendbars_liftgates@reddit
FR I was barely cognizant of Rio 1, and now I'm learning there was a fuckin' Rio 2.
DiscountParmesan@reddit
apparently cucks if we go by OP's analysis
freezerwaffles@reddit
Hey man fuck you, Rio is great.
SadisticDragonfly@reddit
Me
manicforlive@reddit
"We" do
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
Bird watchers?
tanalto@reddit
Twitchers go outside and watch birds
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
What if it’s cold and there are no birds?
tanalto@reddit
Bird watchers travel to different biomes for birds
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
What about if they have no money or time to travel?
tanalto@reddit
Skill gap
JimmyGuy20@reddit
Someone who studies bird's law
ItsMichaelRay@reddit
There was a Rio 2?
DaddyCato@reddit
Anon, who is not allowed within 10 miles of his local elementary school, is obsessing over children's media. Many such cases
ItsMichaelRay@reddit
Happy Cake Day!
divic87@reddit
Anon is triggered by cgi birds lmao
FireWater24@reddit
RED SPY IS IN THE BASE
biglious@reddit
Feels good being the best dude my wife has dated. Not only were her exes kinda crap, but I’m the fuckin shit. I work full time, great cook, clean, I’m a good dad and generous with my money. I give her everything I can and ask for little on return. But in return I get. Well. I get plenty 😉
Omegawop@reddit
Anon's cuck fetish is so severe he needs it to apply to the children's cartoons he consumes.
jonatna@reddit
Even if the movie did in fact have those things in it, I wouldn't be so hurt and relate to the movie so much. I'd just think it was depressing and whoever made it really has gripes about relationships. If OP really does take it personally, maybe he should consider his life choices and maybe attend therapy. If that's not in the movie, he should attend therapy sooner than later.
SadisticDragonfly@reddit
Anon did not watch Rio 2 until the end
AnneFranklin0131@reddit
I don’t think I finished it . What happens lol
JediMineTrix@reddit
Brazil is finally destroyed
Budget_Celebration89@reddit
One can only hope
TESTlCLE@reddit
I read somewhere that the protagonist bird got cucked by Chad bird
Dynablade_Savior@reddit
Didn't care, was too busy jerking off to Jewel to notice the cuckold story
avengeds12345@reddit
Ok_Remove2696@reddit (OP)
Saaaaame
Dope_pope_420@reddit
Never saw this movie and dont care. Birds are extinct now.
YoungDiscord@reddit
OP doesn't understand that the moral here is that the main character macaw was just being an insecure little shit whose self-sabotage very nearly ruined and possibly killed his family.
Moistestmouse11@reddit
cuck bird
health_throwaway195@reddit
Really, the average mid beta guy marries and has kids with a Stacy? That's a fantasy.
Icy_Magician_9372@reddit
Anon gets scared and confused at a children's movie.
Extreme-Kitchen1637@reddit
Why are my government spy drones getting cucked? Who wrote this slop
YorkPorkWasTaken@reddit
Great thread, thanks anon
AbominatioNation@reddit
"the life of the typical male" that's not the life of the typical male that's the life of a redditor
Mean-Manufacturer-37@reddit
why do these cg kids movies even need love triangles?
maninahat@reddit
Op, whenever he sees a children's movie:
Mr_Farky@reddit
Blu?
Portlander_in_Texas@reddit
I love it when crazy people watch movies and then let their brain just extrapolate the dumbest fucking take possible.
Firedamp_Weaponry@reddit
Rio 2 was permanently ruined for anon after his first time watch as a kid was ruined by his dad's drunken wailing about his failing marriage.
demonman101@reddit
Didn't see it, don't care.