Don’t be daft lol, you know what they are saying.
ATF’s dumbass rules essentially make it where you can have an SBR, drop the stock and add a brace, and now it’s considered a pistol. They were selling drop-in sears alongside the switches, so converting to full auto really isnt hard
Unless you have them in a stabilizing brace like an MCK, in which case they are quite nice. That being said it does require some modification to the brace so the slide can completely cycle…at least that’s what i heard
I agree with you except for the 'their targets' aspect. They'll miss who they were aiming at and hit everyone around them.
These are stupid and serve no practical purpose.
A few companies kind of made Glockstocks. Some were the serialized part, a couple (Flux I believe) made a sort of glomp on attachment. Some other companies made a clamshell abomination.
I am trained and proficient in handgun. I have had the opportunity to actually shoot a Glock 18 (Glock Manufactured Full-Auto) legally.
They are quite controllable for anyone who knows how to shoot handguns. Heck watch the news report video, and they will show an officer on two different times mag dumping a switched Glock. The muzzle is easy to manage.
No law abiding individual is putting a switch on a firearm. Proficiency is not exclusive to law abiding.
Anyone can learn to be proficient in firearms manipulation and handling. It is just grip, sight, and trigger control management.
I'm glad they got these dipshits off the streets. I live in a pretty decent area and just the other week heard some dipshit shooting something full-auto in the middle of the night. I know it's optimistic, but hopefully, it was one of these morons they caught that was responsible.
Does it though? There are so many people with felonies these days I feel like they would just get lost in the noise. We owned a restaurant and 85% of the applicants had felonies for stupid stuff like drug possession or stealing from Walmart. Sure they would be scrutinized at places like banks and mortgage companies or whatever, but let’s be honest, that can’t be where most felons are trying to get jobs.
You will pretty much be excluded from any kind of white collar corporate work for life. Not just banks.
From my understanding the only way(generally, obviously there are exceptions), to make decent money as a felon is to go into the trades.
I know someone with an uglyyy charge who makes over $100K in construction management.
Probably half of companies insta-reject him when he looks for a new position, but for the most part he’s built a steady career from turning wrenches and being a pseudo-genius at his expertise niche.
There’s a point where they hire enough idiots and spend enough fixing their mess that they literally don’t care who the guy is that can actually solve and fix the problem anymore lol.
> the only way to make decent money as a felon is to go into the trades.
Yep, i work construction and a lot of the guys I hire are felons. Most of our jobs nowadays require background checks and drug test before being allowed on site. Whether they pass the check has more to do with:
1) How long ago the felony was (5-7 years is usually the max back they check) School districts are typically the exception, they go back to when you were 18.
2) What was the felony. DUI, assaults, or weapon charges are the biggest typical disqualifers. But then as long as they were 5 to 7 years ago your good.
3) Who the job is for. School district (DISD) is the most restrictive, any felony back to when you were 18 disqualifies you. DFW Airport which you would think is high security, as long as it was 5 years ago and not drug/human trafficking or hijacking and your good to get badged to bypass TSA security.
I have 2 felonies from when I was 24, drug related. I work in IT and it limited my employer options and made making enough to support a family a real challenge. Got my record expunged in my 40s, was able to land a much better paying job almost immediately.
I have a felony. From my teenage years. In the 90s.
I’ve completely reformed my life since then, married, kids, college degree, etc.
I’m still struggling to keep more than $500 on hand.
America is trash and sucks.
I seriously doubt that. For a federal conviction, you have to do something like 80-90% of the time you are sentenced. Also that's not factoring in if there were other gun or drug charges which only adds more time.
> you have to do something like 80-90% of the time you are sentenced
But the likelihood of being sentenced to the max is not very high for a 19 year old.
GOTTA GET A SWITCH ON MY GHOST GUN!
Meaning, probably, a P80. That the Fed has already shown they will track down, as evinced by them contacting P80 customers who bought the frame + completion kits in one order and classed it as a gun retroactively.
It’s hilarious how much of a waste of time this is to pursue. Full auto handguns are useless unless you’re mag dumping at the range. They are difficult to aim and just waste ammo. They definitely aren’t making the gun any deadlier
I’m as pro gun as it gets (repeal the NFA), but the people who use these aren’t aiming to begin with. They typically are just doing drive-by shootings where they inaccurately mag dump into “Opps” and bystanders. I think there’s a very sound argument to be made that switches increase the danger to bystanders, as criminals are able to exponentially increase their rounds down range during these drive-bys.
Still think it’s bullshit they’re illegal though.
If there’s a sound argument that they make the guns unsafe to operate as intended then why shouldn’t they be illegal? This doesn’t seem to be a 2A issue to me.
It doesn’t make the gun unsafe to operate. It just makes a Glock full auto. It’s basically just a little “switch” (a sear) that blocks the trigger block from resetting when the trigger is held, hence full auto.
I could be wrong but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a full auto Glock shot with a semblance of accuracy. Shooting full auto through a handgun with a 4-5 inch barrel leaves very little room to control recoil on a platform that already has a larger margin for error than a rifle.
If the purpose of the 2A is to prevent tyranny through arming the populace I don’t see how a switch that renders a gun ineffective at shooting accurately furthers that goal.
I think I saw a video of a guntuber shooting with a switch and he was doing 3 round bursts and only hitting a torso target at 10 yards once for every three shots. And that’s not a mag dump which would be even worse.
This seems to violate the most basic rule of firearm safety, know what you’re shooting at. In a gun with such a small sight radius, even tiny variations in aim can throw bullets way off target and I think the switch basically makes these guns impossible to aim in a way that wouldn’t endanger others EVEN in the hands of a trained shooter. That plus the fact that they aren’t reliable and are ineffective, and therefore in no way “necessary to the security of a free state” means to me that they can be regulated. Just my thoughts at least.
I've fired a full auto Glock. It's hard to control, but you can do it. Mag dump would be a little unrealistic to control, but like you said, a 3-5 round burst can land rounds on target.
While I wont sit here and try to argue that full auto glocks (or any full auto pistol for that matter) are wieldy, You do tend to grossly exaggerate how unwieldy they are in a proficient user's hand. A full auto glock can most certainly be held on a torso sized target at 7-10 yards.
But I also wont sit here and try to say that a glock switch is something that I even specifically want. Where the issue lies is with the NFA hand the Hughes Amendment in 1986, which effectively bans the sale of full auto firearms to the civilian populous, unless it was made and registered under the NFA before 1986. This has created a finite supply of legal full auto firearms accessible to the civilian populous, and has caused prices of those firearms to skyrocket to the point of only the super wealthy being able to obtain them. For example, a semi-auto AR-15 can be obtained for $500. A registered full auto AR-15 runs between $30,000-40,000.
Under US v. Miller (ironically the case that upheld the NFA), the Court held that firearms protected under the 2A must have a military purpose i.e. be in use in the military. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that full auto firearms and short barrel rifles aren't in common use in the military, when the standard issue rifle (the M4) is both a SBR and full auto. Short barrel shotguns are also in use, but to a lesser extent no doubt.
In addition to US v. Miller, the Court recently held that firearms laws must be rooted in the historical traditions of America. We currently don't have precedent defining what time period specifically constitutes the "Historical Traditions", but whether you look at the establishment of the Bill of Rights, or the Post Antebellum period, neither time period restricts full auto firearms.
Regardless of what precedent you look at regarding the 2A, the regulation of full auto firearms should be found unconstitutional. Just my thoughts though.
You are assuming that these folks customers have ever heard the words "trigger" and "discipline" in the same sentence, and that they have any idea how to actually use a firearm.
Terrible take…
“Definitely aren’t making the gun any deadlier” - sure the average dumbfuck who acquires a sear isn’t practicing recoil management or any other accuracy improving techniques. Insert the example of the innocent civilian 2 walls away getting beamed. So yes, more deadly on that premise alone.
Furthermore, let’s say one of these criminals acquires a second, even a third, brain cell and does practice. Perhaps they get a can, improved slide, or any of the other accessories that improve weapon handling. Now you’ve got a non-regarded criminal with a bo6 equipped Gucci Glock that’s able to dump 1,200 rounds per minute. 20 per second… 120 round mags aren’t dependable, or affordable at $500+, but 6 seconds of full auto, 120 rounds, at any skill level would be absolutely devastating from 15y or less.
So you’re dumb basically.
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Big gun guy here. It's INSANE how popular glock switches have become. People openly post them on IG, and TikTok, rap about them, put them in rap videos. Anyone that knows anything about guns know that owning a unregistered machine gun/pistol gets you big fed prison time. Who's flooding the market w/ these? China? They aren't OEM glock switches, they aren't stolen registered glock switches. It's hard to explain how rare it was to see one of these to them being common enough to show up on a city subreddit.
They're easy to make and install, so if they get popular, people do stupid things. All the alure of a machine gun, pocket sized, with the cache of being illegal as hell to give you that 'bad boy' cred.
There are NO OEM Glock switches.
Glock made the G18, the function is integral to that specific firearm, and can't be used in other models due to very different internal designs and function.
There are also no pre-ban G18 in the USA only dealer samples. I have had the opportunity to shoot two different ones, one a G18 one a G18C (compensated).
Sorry , I didn’t mean OEM. I meant dealer sample legal/ registered etc.
Yes I know there are no preban G18s around. I’ve also shot both, along with a bunch of other pre and post full autos.
And then the article says it was installed on an AR-style pistol. Glock and AR sear parts are not interchangeable. I’m not sure who the idiot is, the reporter or the suspect.
Marnelius Burks, 20, Marco Cabrales, 22, and Royce Weaver, 21, were charged with possession and transfer of a machine gun, aiding and abetting the possession and transfer of a machine gun and conspiracy to possess and transfer a machine gun.
Damien Sereseroz, 21, and Gracie Valadez, 20, were charged with aiding and abetting the possession and transfer of a machine gun.
Anthony Joel Cantu, 18, was charged with possession of a machine gun, also a federal offense.
**COOOOKED**
Yes I have been to So many countries , I work for travel industry and grew up with free flights anyway bc my dad worked for NWA then Delta now retired
I have been to every continent (except Antarctica, but going next yr, the trip is already booked
American is not the best, not even top 3
No guarantee medical , no guarantee time off juet to start, now we have a trump again
That's still visiting, you know you're going home soon. I lived in asia for several years, once you have to get a job there, buy a home, deal with local governments and stuff your perspective can change quite a bit. You realize these places are not as idyllic as they seem and have many problems of their own, like very high unemployment, very low wages, racism against foreigners, government bureaucracy, unaffordable housing, high taxes, etc.
And they accomplished zero. 2 min later a 3d printed printed hundreds more down the street. You can buy a FRT trigger for any ar legally and it does the same thing yet this is illegal. lol cats out of the bag now. No stopping it you can arrest half the idiots in the area and it’ll do nothing. Is what it is.
>One man is accused of advertising the switches on social media and then selling them to an undercover officer. He is also accused of advertising the sale of switches and drop-in sears on social media.
doubtful
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