What is the answer to this question in my 6 year olds home work?
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Ctrl-Alt-Del-Monte@reddit
Symmetry vs asymmetry
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
Given they are six I am doubting all the answers about internal angles. Pretty sure it is symmetry. I imagine you can draw a vertical line down the shapes in the left and they match when you flip them like pages in a book, but the ones on the right don't. Poorly explained but I would guess that is the answer.
Plorntus@reddit
Yep
Found this document: https://assets.whiteroseeducation.com/new-schemes/Y2%20Autumn%20Block%203%20SOL%20Shape.pdf
Page 24 of the PDF.
Looks to be a updated version of this exact image: https://i.imgur.com/o4cwldy.png
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
I read it, and as a neurodivergent adult, these questions and answers drove me insane as they are constructed very poorly.
I understand what they are asking, but wow, I had to really deconstruct their questions as they were not my first answers at all, and my alternate answers were also correct.
This comes across as a highly qualified academic, who has never taught an actual class of kids and let AI optimize the PDF for efficiency.
DrainpipeDreams@reddit
"Colour in the shapes with 4 sides. What do you notice?"
Well, I notice that all of the shapes with 4 sides are now coloured in.
What the feck am I meant to notice?!
Xenox_Arkor@reddit
We once had a chemistry question that was "what process does not occur in the sun?".
The answers were interesting.
I can't remember if I knew the correct answer, but I do remember my answer was "cake production".
Toon1982@reddit
Anything indoors
Southern-Orchid-1786@reddit
Was it photosynthesis
Xenox_Arkor@reddit
I think it was nuclear fission. As opposed to fusion which does happen in the sun.
It was in the "fission and fusion" module or something so it was very much guided to one of the two answers.
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
Photosynthesis is a correct answer, just not the right answer because it didn't come with specific parameters. Fisson/fusion was not part of the question you stated, and even you only added the context of it with this later response.
Xenox_Arkor@reddit
Yes because it reads better for comedic purposes.
We got half a point for it and the teacher admitted it was a poorly worded question so I feel validated.
She basically said it was silly to try to imply what is essentially a multiple choice question, and the test should have just had a multiple choice one in it's place.
Southern-Orchid-1786@reddit
Arguably it was a good question as you remembered it after all these years
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
Osmosis was mine in school because we were studying plants in biology, and this question rocked up in physics class, which was discussing energy with no nuclear context.
I recall a classmate pulling out mitochondria as its the powerhouse of the cell, which lead to one of those 15 minute class derailing debates while our teacher laughed so hard he cried and had to sit down.
jtr99@reddit
"Boss, you're not going to believe what's happened..."
"Don't tell me. You've burnt the cake again?"
DrainpipeDreams@reddit
100% correct.
Ayanhart@reddit
White Rose is a highly regarded maths scheme used in thousands of schools across the country. It's designed to teach maths concepts in individual steps, that gradually build up. While they have some quirks, their scheme is generally pretty good overall.
At this stage, every lesson is very narrow and focused on a specific thing. You can't look at the lessons from an adult point of view, you need to look at them from where the child is currently.
Loose_Acanthaceae201@reddit
Yes, context such as "this child's class has been learning about symmetry every morning since they came back after Christmas".
ghostofkilgore@reddit
As a non-neurodivergent adult, if I had to answer questions like this, something would he getting launched out the nearest window.
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
😄 I frequently launched myself out of open windows in primary school because of frustrating questions like this. Luckily, my primary school was one level. Unfortunately for my teachers, I was also one hell of a runner.
They learned to not bother chasing me because I'd always end up in the library. I was a mischievous kid and fine left alone.
Themosteclecticwitch@reddit
Pillows would be screamed into, hair pulled out
jonewer@reddit
I'm not even neuro divergent and I find these types of questions infuriating. They entirely depend on your interpretation of the question
Skitteringscamper@reddit
Yep.
Because vertical symmetry on left, also 2 or more lines of symmetry on left, are both equally correct.
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
Yep. Wonder why they didn't use mirror symmetry as vertical does not lead to the answer they're looking for.
These are for 6 year olds and us adults are having discussions over the clarity of questions, the kids definitely will be.
FunWithAPorpoise@reddit
The kid probably has way more context based on what they’ve been learning in class. It’s probably more obvious to them. I wouldn’t be surprised if the word “symmetry” appears somewhere else on the page.
Cultural_Garbage_Can@reddit
I understand it's context based, but it leads to another problem of parents being unable to help with homework.
nekader@reddit
As a teacher: this is entirely correct.
Vargol@reddit
for the new shapes I would so draw the chevron from the right hand group for the left one, and the triangle from the left group for the right one, just rotated so the answer was right.
Skitteringscamper@reddit
There's also two possible answers.
Vertical symmetry on left.
But also 2 or more lines of symmetry on the left.
JacobAldridge@reddit
When we read the question as random people on the internet, we lack the context given by the teacher.
Now picture a situation where the teacher says “Today we are learning about ‘Symmetry’.”
The teacher runs a whole lesson block explaining Symmetry, and lines of symmetry. They give many examples and teach the class.
THEN for homework that day they give this puzzle. Now - within that context - it’s a very simple puzzle.
But absent the context, it’s infuriating.
neegs@reddit
Odd seaway but there is a uk series on called the 1%. They show continually more difficult questions as the game proceeds. 100% of the population should be able to answer this 80% 60% etc.
Except some of there question are really badly formed. A number of times I have been able to establish an answer that fit or answered the question. Using all parts of the question etc. Not ignoring pieces or words. Yet my answer was a different answer to what they had.
Drives me nuts when the extended family are over as seems im the ine who think very differently than others.
If you have a a Q&A type show there should only be one answer. Not multiple but I have to match what you thought
GayAttire@reddit
That is the last question on the sheet of extension questions and most likely used one time out of 200. The SOL is more for teachers to use when putting together lessons or adaptive learning. It is quite a poor question, though, regardless.
GreatBigBagOfNope@reddit
I'm neurotypical, got an advanced numerate degree and work in a highly numerate field, and this question is pretty much nonsense to me, even after seeing the answers. God help the kids if they've got more in the same vein.
Bobzilla2@reddit
Except the right hand group has one shape with a line of symmetry. Answer may be what they have but it's a crock.
tragoedian@reddit
In this question vertical symmetry is affected by the shape's orientation. As the chevron is rotated slightly out of vertical alignment, as per the rule, is thus not symmetrical in its current representation.
Does the question explicitly state this? No, but it is the reason that answered it that way. Definitely could be stated clearer, but looking at the book it came from they do give more information that would help you out.
Potential-Freedom-64@reddit
Are all sides equal on that chevron though .If they are then crock it is ,it has to incorporate a vertical line in order for this answer to be correct . I think most of us are trying too hard.
karmadramadingdong@reddit
“Vertical symmetry” is what the answer says.
DripDry_Panda_480@reddit
the ones on the left have rotational AND line symmetry?
BigBunneh@reddit
I think the red shape on the right is ever so slightly out of symmetry whack (right-hand edge looks slightly shorter than the left-hand edge), but without getting out my micrometer I can't tell for sure. I'm certain the kids in the class would have been given theirs to work the task out.
L_Avion_Rose@reddit
Yeah, the chevron looks uneven
notacanuckskibum@reddit
Horizontal symmetry.
Sir-Chris-Finch@reddit
Or vertical. None of the shapes on the right have either.
The question is asked woefully (without context) though
Cmdr_Morb@reddit
These things drive me mad. The chevron clearly has a line of symmetry yet, because the book says it doesn't I wouldn't even consider it as a correct answer....... No wonder school went badly.
dickbob124@reddit
Parallelograms don't have a line of symmetry though.
Reasonable_Pen_3949@reddit
Yeah, to me it makes more sense that the shapes on the left each use the same angle where the lines meet, whereas the shapes on the right use varying angles where their lines meet. This would explain why the chevron like thing is on the right
Ayanhart@reddit
I thought it was WhiteRose! Pretty good maths scheme, but has it's odd moments like this.
Less_Pie_7218@reddit
Thank you for this loving the content in the website!!
RegularStrawberry909@reddit
Whiterose maths is what your school will be teaching your children. They’ll be following it throughout all ages and is free 🙌🏻
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
Can everyone please upvote this!
the_fox_in_the_roses@reddit
The orange shape in the right group is also symmetrical.
randomusername8472@reddit
> Poorly explained
I have a degree in maths and the homework my child comes home with is terrible some times for obscure questions. Always clearly missing some critical pieces of information that I'm sure was given verbally.
Part of the whole point of maths is clear, unambiguous definition!
quiidge@reddit
Happens in science too, GCSE papers are the worst for this.
"What does 440 Hz mean?"
What do you mean what does it mean?? Is that a high or low pitch? Should I explain what a Hz is? What frequency is?? I have multiple degrees in this subject and I have no clue what you want these poor teenagers to say.
(I had to check the mark scheme, apparently the answer they were looking for is "440 oscillations every second". Great. No-one guessed that.)
UnhappyRaven@reddit
I understood the question. The 440 is spurious; it could be any value since what they’re after is the definition of Hz.
But that’s exam-craft rather than physics. I.e. Learning how to dissect the question properly. That needs to be taught too. (Funnily enough my best exam-craft teacher in high school was also my physics teacher: he wrote exams for the local exam board.)
AdvantageGlass5460@reddit
I have a degree and taught maths for 15 years in secondary school. It's my kids primary school maths that really messes me up.
I think part of the problem is the primary school teachers have changed how they teach maths a lot in the last 5 year or so. The other problem is they use these online homework platforms like mymaths and Sparx/hegarty maths. Which are great for tracking progress and setting homework quickly but they are not aligned precisely with the way the teacher teaches in class.
The teacher clicks the button to set lines or symmetry year 2 level and then the kid gets whatever someone at the maths software company came up with as an idea for a question. Often it's fine. But a lot of the time it's some angle of the subject that wasn't covered in class or isn't quite in the syllabus.
The sad reality is that teachers are under pressure to set more homework than they actually have time to mark or plan. So this is what you end up with. Half the time your kid is doing a piece of homework that the teacher himself hasn't even looked at before setting.
noelsacid@reddit
100% this. The questions my son brings home from primary school are often obscure or ambiguous or involve interpreting badly drawn or labelled diagrams.
I have a feeling the people designing these books and questions do not have a background in teaching or even maths.
It would be funny if I didn't see my son demoralised by it all. I just have to explain that it's ok not to understand and try to walk through it together.
randomusername8472@reddit
Yeah, it really sucks if the teaching is ruining it.
Maths is just about clear communication, definition and problem solving. I try to instill this in my kids (separate from school stuff).
A favourite lecturer of mine once shared an essay comparing maths to music. It basically said that if maths was like music, the equivalent teaching would be just getting kids to learn all the terminology of music, read and right sheet music and then as they get older require them to adjust chords and melodies with abstract algebraic formula.
Listening to music or even touching an instrument would be a university level, second year and above.
So most people would go through the entire school system without ever hearing music. They'd believe they didn't like music, didn't understand it, and definitely weren't "music people".
commanderquill@reddit
As a teacher, I would absolutely block out that orange shape on the right if I were to hand this out. Kids who will succeed particularly well in mathematics and geometry later will be able to tilt their head and notice that it's symmetrical. I've also had to deal with autistic kids in middle school who threw absolute fucking fits about this stuff because they learned it a certain way (say, that the orange shape was not symmetrical) (or that verbs only describe actions--god fucking help me, that argument lasted weeks), latched onto it, and would not accept otherwise. If I have to clarify at any point "yes, you're right, but not for this worksheet", I'm not handing out the worksheet.
I understand that it's trying to teach one direction of symmetry only, but it can prove problematic or confusing for certain students.
Skitteringscamper@reddit
It's not even that.
It's shapes with 2 or more lines of symmetry on the left.
Shapes with less than 2 therefore on the right.
But the vertical one is also correct.
Double marks for both answers lol
Impossible_Number_74@reddit
I would have gone left, all interior angles are equal, right, interior angles are not all equal (for each shape).
sc00022@reddit
Exactly what I was thinking. The arrow shape on the right is a bit misleading, but I’m pretty sure it’s not quite symmetrical
PuzzledFortune@reddit
The six sided shape on the right also has a mirror plane.
JoeyJoeC@reddit
Not quite.
ThatNegro98@reddit
You are over complicating a 6 year old homework. The shapes as they are do not have vertical symmetry.
Academic_Guard_4233@reddit
What is vertical? Sorry this homework is bullshit.
(Source: maths degree)
ThatNegro98@reddit
Wdym what is vertical? The line of symmetry is. Vertical symmetry. Sorry I left out the word "line", so you seem to no longer understand😭
Cos I assume you don't mean, "what does vertical mean"?
Well yeh, most homeworks are bullshit tbh. Plus If you have a maths degree you're gonna over think it, cos there's more than one way they could be grouped together. You have a far more advanced knowledge than a child.
They've likely gone for an answer, that most kids could probably notice/understand (it's dumb but that's a problem with the education system).
The shapes on the left can be mirrored perfectly (if you put a vertical symmetry line down the middle of them) and the ones on the right can't. We used to do this in primary school and were given little mirrors to help us understand.
Sorry, I feel like explaining this to you is insulting cos you have a maths degree. I just don't get what you don't understand about, it if you have a degree in maths?
JoeyJoeC@reddit
No just pointing out it's not symmetrical. I know a 6 year old wouldn't have the ability to load it into Photoshop, rotate it, mirror it and add 50% transparency to check. It just looked off to me and bothered me enough to check.
ThatNegro98@reddit
Can't argue that.
Also so real, I really hear that. (I have adhd, not the same ik but I relate to this a lot)
Kick-Deep@reddit
As a child I also would have discounted sentry as that shape is basically symmetrical especially at this scale. Questions like this actually taught me how to be mindful of badly formatted documents. And how to give the answer the test wants. That's said they still annoy me supremely
Gabtraff@reddit
I prefer the answer that all shapes on the left have shared value for their angles, but the right shapes have various angles.
MrAnderson69uk@reddit
That’s a two sided shape! A slightly folded sheet of paper!
Weirfish@reddit
I'd assume that's just inaccuracy.
AlGunner@reddit
The others can be rotated and flipped this one can only be flipped, so no its not symmetrical which requires both.
Substantial_Client_3@reddit
But not that obvious
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
Yeah, but they are six - they are just flipping against a vertical, not working out whether it can be flipped using an angle. That's my guess - there might be more context from what they are learning this week though.
Richard-c-b@reddit
Or maybe it's more than one line of reflective symmetry?
BeatificBanana@reddit
What are the two lines on the triangle?
Richard-c-b@reddit
There's three on the triangle. I said multiple, not 2
BeatificBanana@reddit
Nah you misunderstand, I'm just stupid and was genuinely asking what they were because i didn't know. But now you've said there are 3 I get it, lines from each of the 3 points right?
Richard-c-b@reddit
Ah! Correct, yes
SlamBevko@reddit
They’re only 6
pajamakitten@reddit
But it is correct nonetheless.
Lowlands62@reddit
"Has more than one line of symmetry" is totally appropriate for age 6, although I'd expect it to follow other symmetry questions as a bit of a lead up.
Dramoriga@reddit
I don't think my 7yo has been taught symmetry at school yet, I'll need to ask him!
Lowlands62@reddit
Maybe it's just down to different curriculums. They start symmetry in reception (ages 4 and 5) in the UK, but also repeat it in older years too.
Sly1969@reddit
Probably because you didn't use the correct plural of curriculum. It's curricula.
GeeJo@reddit
In Latin. In English, either is acceptable. Same as the strictly correct (and still acceptable) plural of cicada is cicadae, but most people use cicadas. Tableaux and tableaus. Virtuosi and virtuosos.
Sly1969@reddit
Enjoy your 'cactuses'.
MoseSchrute70@reddit
To add, we also introduce symmetry in nursery. Albeit in a much simpler way but if my 3 year olds can grasp the basics a 6 year old can do this.
jake_burger@reddit
People on Reddit are like that sometimes. It’s very annoying
drummerftw@reddit
I think a 6 year old is more likely to turn the piece of paper around until it does flip on a vertical from their perspective.
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
Not if they've been doing it in class. I think this is a poor example because the red chevron thing looks symmetrical (there's an argument it actually isn't) but my guess is that they've been doing this on a vertical plane.
jozefiria@reddit
Yes its a poor choice of shape for a task that is not primarily about precision.
It would work if there were several very similar and the task was to be very accurate and spot this inconsistency.
Leucurus@reddit
It doesn't have a vertical line of symmetry.
DEADPOOL-2007@reddit
Id assume its tilted so the line of symmetry isnt vertical
Careful_Adeptness799@reddit
Not a vertical one the way it’s drawn. Think like a 6 year old add a circle to the left and any old random shape to the right.
sjintje@reddit
Exactly what I was thinking! I mean, not that I thought a six year old would think it, it was my solution.
Careful_Adeptness799@reddit
I have an 8 year old you learn not to overthink the homework too much and mistakes in questions can get through.
TheAmazingSealo@reddit
Maybe they are only using vertical lines though as they're 6 year olds. Or the teacher setting the homework had an oversight.
AvidCoco@reddit
All the ones on the left have multiple dimensions of symmetry. On the right it's either 0 or 1.
palpatineforever@reddit
You have to remember it is for a 6 year old, they would be more likely to be being taught about a simple vertical line not if they rotate the shape. You are applying thinking outside their experiance.
jennia@reddit
Definitely. It comes in the lesson straight after vertical lines of symmetry in the White Rose plans. (Year 2 teacher here!)
Competitive_Song124@reddit
Probably should have had the shapes drawn over a grid line or something then. The one on the right just looks like it’s inconsequentially at a fun jaunty angle lol
DorkySloot@reddit
There was something bothering me about their ‘equalness’ that I couldn’t quite articulate in my brain (adult autistic brain).
Would never have been able to put my finger on ‘vertical symmetry’…..
thymeisfleeting@reddit
You’re absolutely right, I think it’s about vertical lines of symmetry. My daughter is doing symmetry at the moment in year 2.
Trick-Station8742@reddit
Same
MaskedBunny@reddit
Probably rotational symmetry though
StingerAE@reddit
Got to be one line and rotational. Otherwise the parallelogram would be on the left.
MaskedBunny@reddit
Yeah I'd just spotted the slanty rectangular thing after I posted
Natural-Moose4374@reddit
That's it. We have to rewrite all our math books. "Slanty rectangular thing" is so much funnier than parallelogram.
MaskedBunny@reddit
Or slantangular for short
beingthehunt@reddit
I don't know if the person edited after you posted but the answer is on the image posted to this conversation thread above your reply.
"shapes with and without a vertical line of symmetry"
Director_Of_Mischief@reddit
As I pretty quickly thought 'symmetry', and my maths skills are approximately the same as the average 6-year-old, this is my conclusion as well.
Natural-Moose4374@reddit
Symmetry is the wrong answer, though. The parallelogram on the right also has rotational symmetry, and the orange thing has a line of symmetry as well.
Charlie_Yu@reddit
As a maths teacher I hate the answer.
Why is being vertical considered? There is nothing special about being vertical, rotation should be allowed
jennia@reddit
Vertical symmetry is the only symmetry they learn in Y2 - blame the curriculum!
Bushdr78@reddit
Agreed I'm not sure why the word vertical is in there for 6 year olds
Shiftz_101@reddit
Double lesson - maths and geometry. Horizontal and Vertical are no harder to understand than symmetry
Bushdr78@reddit
I'm meant with relevance to this question. I know for the more logically minded like myself it would just confuse me further. At that age I needed clear guidance for what vertical and horizontal meant. Adding it to this question does nothing to further define the word or add relevance to this conundrum.
Drarakme@reddit
I used to work as a graphics engineer and to me a shape is not bound to a rotation matrix. And that made me dismiss the symmetry answer right away.
They should've elaborate the shape in that current spatial configuration and time.
MoreCoffeeNowPls@reddit
Absolutely. This question drove me insane as a child and, I've not found, still drives me crazy as an adult
cayosonia@reddit
Make it a yellow one as well
Expensive_Peace8153@reddit
Seems a pretty arbitrary and meaningless characteristic. The shapes on the right have symmetry, it's just that the axis of symmetry isn't aligned with the page. I mean who knows what activities one can do / are supposed to do with purely abstract shapes but I'd assume that mentally rotating them is pretty standard.
JeniJ1@reddit
Really annoyed at myself for not spotting this instantly.
Bushdr78@reddit
I'm a little dumb would a pentagon fit for both groups?
Parking_Jelly_6483@reddit
In the “without a line of vertical symmetry” set of three figures, the very slight difference in length of the two parallel sides of the orange figure is too subtle. Seeing the answer, I immediately thought that a line from the concave angle to the convex angle would be a line symmetry. That’s not true because the two parallel sides are slightly different in length. Also, “vertical line” would need to be better defined. A line from either of the two opposite vertices of the green parallelogram would also produce two symmetrical triangles. Also, a line from the center one side of the parallelogram at a right angle to the other would produce two equivalent figures but you have to flip one to make them symmetric. Like dividing the parallelogram with a line from opposite vertices would also produce two equivalent triangles but one would also need to be flipped/rotated to overlap the other. A poorly worded and to too subtly drawn question.
larrysbrain@reddit
Christ. You have to have a designers eye to see that orange isn't symmetrical.
rpat2550@reddit
The green triangle looks a bit wonky, I don’t think it has a perfect mirror plane on any of the sides…
DiabeticPissingSyrup@reddit
My wife, who is autistic, is currently plotting ways to kill the question setter.
funkmachine7@reddit
So we're implying that the shapes can't be rotated, cos other wise that orange one is symmetrical.
Amylou789@reddit
I think it would be more accurate to say all the angles are the same in the first - that arrow one on the right has symmetry.
quick_justice@reddit
Red shape on the right is symmetrical, just saying.
Gaunts@reddit
I was wondering if there was a pre-amble leading up to this that the image has cut out.
nomarmite@reddit
Nope, two of the three on the right have a plane of symmetry.
LegoNinja11@reddit
One does. Not the other two.
nomarmite@reddit
Nope, the yellow figure can be divided diagonally from one corner to the opposite corner, both ways. Only the triangle is not symmetrical.
LegoNinja11@reddit
It's green for me and no it can't. The opposite corners don't align because the sides aren't of equal length.
Your approach works but only if the starting shape were square.
nomarmite@reddit
It divides into two triangles with identical angles and identical side lengths.
LegoNinja11@reddit
It's not a rhombus, just a parallelogram. The 4 sides aren't equal.
"A rhombus has 2 lines of symmetry which cuts it into two identical parts. Both the lines of symmetry in a rhombus are from its diagonals"
"A parallelogram has no lines of symmetry"
Fossilhund@reddit
How many Reddit Adults does it take to complete a six year old's homework assignment?
No-Walk-9615@reddit
That was my first thought, but the brown shape in the second oval looks like it could.
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
It's vertical lines of symmetry. There's some doubt in the comments about whether that orange thing is symmetrical or not but either way it isn't on a vertical line. Often these questions are more obvious in context - they spend a week looking at various inter-connected elements and it might be more obvious to the six-year old than to and adult who doesn't know what they've talked about all day at school.
Decent_Blacksmith_54@reddit
Each shape on the right has the same internal angles (triangle is equilateral, rectangular has 4 90 degree angles etc)
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
They are six - this is well beyond their maths level in school
heyitsed2@reddit
It's still a right answer...
Breaking-Dad-@reddit
r/techicallythetruth
Indeed. Although I have found primary school teachers don't really go for independent thought as much as they say they do.
Decent_Blacksmith_54@reddit
No not really, but the symmetry answer is probably what they're looking for.
vurjin_oce@reddit
But one of the right ones is symmetrical. Even the rhombus (?) is symmetrical if the line is done diagonally.
Lowlands62@reddit
No it's not. Common error for kids! (A rhombus would but that's a normal parallelogram).
vurjin_oce@reddit
If you have the intersecting line at the same angle as the left and right side it would by symmetrical
LegoNinja11@reddit
Nope, because if the intersecting line is at an angle the horizontal lines would fold up or down at the same angle.
vurjin_oce@reddit
Ah I see so it has to be a mirror image, not just an exact look alike.
LegoNinja11@reddit
If it were a square to start then it's a rhombus which does have two lines of symmetry from corner to corner. As a parallelogram it's got no symmetry.
Lowlands62@reddit
https://www.cuemath.com/geometry/lines-of-symmetry-in-a-parallelogram/
It's hard to explain verbally but this site contains some visuals to show why it's not symmetrical. It's generally best to physically do this one with paper to understand it.
JoelMahon@reddit
sick burn for adults!
Lowlands62@reddit
Lol not intentional!
Afinkawan@reddit
That's like saying your face would still be symmetrical if one half of it was upside down.
tobotic@reddit
Rhombuses do have reflective symmetry through the diagonal, but a rhombus has equal length sides, while that shape doesn't. It's a parallelogram, so it only has rotational symmetry.
UncleSnowstorm@reddit
No it isn't
Sea-Check-9062@reddit
Good spot. I didn't really understand the question!
The shapes have been sorted into symmetrical and asymmetrical. So any shape of any colour that matches that one criteria would do. Eg a circle and a blob.
Gambitf75@reddit
Wtf I thought I was in the Pittsburgh Steelers sub
the_fox_in_the_roses@reddit
The ones on the left each have only the same angle on each corner. On the right, their corners have different angles.
jimbajomba@reddit
I looked at the images. I counted the sides on all the shapes. I decided all that the missing shape in by collections was a hexagon. I have no idea why. And now I’ve typed this, I no longer care.
Paradoxbox00@reddit
Symmetry
jaaaaamie19@reddit
Symmetry or the same angle
nomarmite@reddit
In #1, the shapes have equal angles. In #2, the angles vary. So you could draw a square in #1 and another rhombus in #2, for example.
bangitybangbabang@reddit
Are. 6 year olds learning about angles? The cross shape doesn't fit that pattern
Fresh_Culture2811@reddit
Yes it does? all angles are 90 degrees....
leachianusgeck@reddit
these orange/red angles are 270 degrees and what I think the person you originally replied to is referring to
Fresh_Culture2811@reddit
Who said interior?
bangitybangbabang@reddit
All 12 internal angles?
ShittiestUsernameYet@reddit
No it doesn’t. Half of them are 270 degrees
jozefiria@reddit
Angles begins in Year 3.
Year 3 teacher here!
Babybabybabyq@reddit
Don’t they just call them corners at that age
AgingLolita@reddit
I bloody hope note, because that has to be Untaught in year 7
margauxlame@reddit
I remember learning about angles in infant school, more likely year 2 though
nomarmite@reddit
It does, as it has only 90 degree angles.
leachianusgeck@reddit
these orange/red angles are 270 degrees and what I think the person you originally replied to is referring to
FundanceKid@reddit
Well, 90 and 270 degree angles. The obtuse angles count too
Lozzabozzawozza@reddit
Ooooh get you! A ‘rhombus’ is it?! It’s called a fucking kite mate. People that went to “school” drive me crazy. I got everything I need from the Simpsons and the single C-E volume of the Britannia encyclopaedia we had. And I’m doing fine.
Southern-Orchid-1786@reddit
That's a byproduct of being symmetrical with straight line polygons.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
The yellow shape in 1 uses 2 different angles.
Pedantichrist@reddit
Does it? Which of those 12 are not right angles?
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
There are 4 270⁰ angles.
snaynay@reddit
90° and 270° are the same effective angle, just measured from different points. A 90° measurement will always have a 270° counter-measurement from the other side. It's also simultaneously a -90° degree angle.
This clearly doesn't consider the inside/outside perspective if the question is about equal angles in shapes and this one is correctly included. If the question was "which of these shapes is the odd one out?" then that might become a perfectly valid assessment.
Big difference between same angles and same interior angles.
Pedantichrist@reddit
There are 12 270° angles.
Pedantichrist@reddit
To be clear, I think the yellow moment a mistake, but all the angles are right angles, just not all the internal angles.
ArchangelLaw@reddit
I guess you could say the angle the two lines coming inward cause a 270 degree angle rather than a 90
JohnnySchoolman@reddit
The angles are the same, just some are interior and some our exterior.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
So...the interior angles are different.
BuildingArmor@reddit
Not to a 6 year old
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
Not really how teaching works.
Also. It's vertical symmetry.
BuildingArmor@reddit
Except it's quite literally exactly how teaching works.
A couple of years earlier and the worksheet could be identical but with just striped shapes on the left and spotty ones on the right.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
And the level of a 6 year old is vertical lines of symmetry.
There's a difference in not teaching everything up front and actively teaching them the wrong lesson.
The fact they don't teach everything up front is why you're wrong. They might do "the yellow shape has right angles" at the stage where you are just teaching right angles. However, all the other shapes have different angles and in order to sort them by that they would already have to be able to understand different angles and inside and outside angles. So, the levels are inconsistent in what you're saying.
They don't do angles until later anyway.
BuildingArmor@reddit
Yeah, not the difference between an interior and exterior right angle.
In the nuance, but right angles facing different ways both being right angles isn't teaching them the wrong lesson.
I'm glad you agree. Why didn't you just lead with admitting you were wrong, instead of burying it like that?
EdmundTheInsulter@reddit
The left one has saturated colours.
zephyrmox@reddit
Beat me to it.
londonboi94@reddit
Ones on the left have complete symmetry. Add a circle. The right don’t
EntertainmentBroad17@reddit
Anti-clockwise, in order of number of ‘sides’, starting with 3.
Maedroth@reddit
They all fit in the square hole.
Skitteringscamper@reddit
Left is 2 or more lines of symmetry
Right is only one or less
Maedroth@reddit
Wrong, they go in the square hole.
PorcelainMelonWolf@reddit
Can someone explain this comment? I feel out of the loop here.
Isotope_Soap@reddit
It goes in the square hole
dengar81@reddit
Classic
PorcelainMelonWolf@reddit
Thanks for that. My life feels more… complete now.
Lewis19962010@reddit
Would you say it's more square now?
ipokethemonfast@reddit
Although I didn’t ask for the explanation, you have introduced me (and the person who asked,) to something that will remain in my mind forever. I have seen this quote (it goes in the square hole,) lots of times and never thought to ask. I’ve been pretty ill for the past few weeks and haven’t laughed for days. Thank you. You broke my circle of misery.
Previous_Wish3013@reddit
Ahh! It’s your square of misery now.
ipokethemonfast@reddit
I will dispose of it in the square hole. Seems that everything goes in there.
tropicalginger@reddit
I feel that this has the same energy as the “Kilogramme of steel, or kilogramme of feathers” sketch. A mind slowly unravelling over something minor and inconsequential.
MrAnderson69uk@reddit
Goes with stir the middle!
bakedNdelicious@reddit
Stop! I’m still upset about that
KamakaziDemiGod@reddit
That's right, it goes in the square hole
B2Snm@reddit
That's right 🤣 gets me every time
Brainchild110@reddit
Why? I love it 😍
whoareyouletmein@reddit
I love the dude's voice for some reason lol.
IsThisWhatDayIsThis@reddit
I love it too! It’s subversive hahaha
bakedNdelicious@reddit
Why do you love it. It’s stressful!
distant-lightz@reddit
Yup 😁
ChocFortress_@reddit
Bruh 😅
Gazza_s_89@reddit
Even angles on every corner versus different angles on every corner.
Though i Think the yellow cross is dodgy,that's 90s + 270s IMO, not 90s and 90s.
SmegmaSandwich69420@reddit
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Rigor-Tortoise-@reddit
Jesus Christ, this is the perfect comment for hitting right in the feels with a strong kick of recent nostalgia. A+ sir, in the square hole with you.
Droidy934@reddit
They all live in Canada
voga1@reddit
The ones on the right have more than one line of symmetry.
Fewest21@reddit
One has equal angles, the other has mixtures of angles.
LumilyEmily@reddit
Symmetry, left are all symmetrical and right is not symmetrical
8racoonsInABigCoat@reddit
Regular versus irregular polygons. So a square would go in the left group, and any old random-sided shape in the right.
Skitteringscamper@reddit
Things that have one line of symmetry on the right group.
Things that have 2 or more lines of symmetry on the left group.
jojo_Kside@reddit
The ones on the left can be folded symmetrically twice
Missing_Sock_123@reddit
ones on the left - all angles are the same size
on the right - have different sized angles
EccentricDyslexic@reddit
53 yo ND here. No idea.
Grouchy-Shoe2798@reddit
Symetry
eumithres@reddit
Symmetrical shapes vs non symmetrical shapes
BenathonWrigley@reddit
This is homework for a 6 year old? Wtf. lol
VarplunkLabs@reddit
It's not really that surprising when you consider that homework should be an extension of what they learnt in school.
So it may seem difficult without context but I bet they would do this easily as they will have been taught this format in lessons.
BarNo3385@reddit
Possibly, though from what I remember homework often took the format of:
In class: X + 1 = 3, what is X?
Homework: [hieroglyic equation with 4 possible solutions that requires matrix algebra and advanced trig to solve].
Willing-Cell-1613@reddit
I do A Level Chemistry… so we get that sort of thing but even worse.
In class: an alcohol is has an -OH functional group.
Homework: six pages of organic analysis to identify six different organic molecules none of which are alcohols
No-Reflection8472@reddit
"If Brian has 4 apples, how many cars does it take to move an elephant"
ghostofkilgore@reddit
If Dave gets on a train in Bristol, heading towards Dundee at 95 mph and Sharon gets on her bike in Wrexham and rides towards Liverpool at 15 mph, how long will it take the police to arrest me for hiding in my ex-wife's garden again?
nohairday@reddit
= 42
OkieBobbie@reddit
Wrong!
Sea_Jackfruit_2876@reddit
7
beerforbears@reddit
Almost as if it’s completely superfluous to an effective education and is only assigned to this day as what is effectively tradition
snaynay@reddit
It's reaffirmation. Homework is, unfortunately, an incredibly effective tool for most students to both remember things and learn major life skills, like finding the answer yourself or apply critical thinking. If you have to solve the problem without someone telling you the answer, you will learn a lot more.
Any hallmark of a top tier education comes from promoting the student to learn more themselves. The kid will not just do the homework but go the extra mile to cover everything they can to get top marks.
beerforbears@reddit
So most students get top marks do they?
snaynay@reddit
Not at all. It's just effective for most students who actually do it. I say most because some do better with different techniques. In part, that's largely more the approach to homework than homework itself. For example, gamifying challenges and providing instant feedback can make an ADHD kid sit and answer every question, whilst they might really push away that mini essay project. Ignoring the method used, almost all students who do homework not only remember more stuff but understand said stuff and can apply it practically to another scenario.
Getting top marks or not is in part down to commitment and consistency. As I said, hallmark of a top tier education system is making the students spend more of their own time, via their own resources, to learn and understand a topic and complete a task correctly.
I know this well because I went to a mini-Hogwarts style school in the UK aimed at providing all the roots to get into the likes of Oxford or Cambridge, two of the world's top and most respected universities. I didn't make it that far because I discovered cannabis as a teenager and kinda went off the rails, but I know a number who did and I know how they got there.
beerforbears@reddit
So, sorry…it’s effective for most students except the ones who have ADHD and your anecdotal evidence for that comes from a school designed to prepare people for Oxbridge. RELATABLE!
snaynay@reddit
You've just demonstrated, twice, that you don't have the best comprehension skills. Perhaps you didn't do enough homework.
beerforbears@reddit
Hilarious. You’re accused of being out of touch because of your privileged schooling and immediately start calling others stupid. You’re bonafide my friend.
turtleship_2006@reddit
I don't think most people on reddit do consider that on threads about kids homework. You'll often see comments along the lines of "i dont know what to do/i dont get the methos therefore it's a dumb question", but the kid was probably taught that method in class before being given the homework
Beaniz39@reddit
Honestly, the very first reply in threads titled "My kid's got homework and I don't know how to do it" should be "look at the previous page of his course book".
No-Reflection8472@reddit
Also this may be a trap of "Let's see which parent is doing their kids homework for them"
Hatertraito@reddit
In a vacuum it's ridiculous, but likely they learned this during the day so it won't be as difficult as everyone's making out. Obviously op's kid doesn't listen at school
SimplyySofia@reddit
i can't answer that when i was 6 years old lmao
DukePPUk@reddit
Yes!
Part of what makes it hard for the rest of us is that there are so many other things going on that we know about (people in the comments talking about interior angles, regular shapes and so on), but which a 6-year-old, who has probably just spent a week learning about basic symmetry and mirror lines, doesn't know about.
Sometimes simple questions become hard because we try to make them more complicated than they are.
Norman_debris@reddit
It's really not difficult. The shapes on the left have a line of symmetry down the middle, the ones on the right do not.
DrewBk@reddit
The red one on the right has a line of symmetry
Norman_debris@reddit
I reckon in year 2 they aren't expected to rotate the shapes.
DrewBk@reddit
I have taught year two and they are quite capable of rotating shapes
Norman_debris@reddit
You're right. The question is obviously nothing to do with shapes having vertical mirror symmetry and the answer is simply unknowable.
DrewBk@reddit
It is a badly written question, unfortunately not an uncommon thing in mathematics.
Juicylucyfullofpoocy@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/s/1bAdKkX62l
DrewBk@reddit
As the shapes stands it has a single order of reflection symmetry down the middle of it. You should not need to go to them lengths as a six year old.
Perseus73@reddit
If it was sitting straight but it’s rotated to the right.
As it stands, none of the ones on the right can have a vertical north-south line of symmetry in their current orientation. As long as OP’s child draws any other shape (except a circle) slight askew, they will have answered the question.
LiteraryDismay2030@reddit
That's not the question. I wonder why your answer didn't address the question at all
Norman_debris@reddit
Lol then draw another vertically symmetrical shape on the left and a more random one on the right.
AndorElitist@reddit
They do though…the orange one on the right has a clear line of symmetry down the middle
Daddy_Kromkamp@reddit
It has a diagonal line of symmetry, not a vertical one
DrDaxon@reddit
I think it’s longer on one side
AggravatingCrab7680@reddit
Looks like an IQ Test. A 6 year old who can solve this is very bright, so are his parents. Cue spooky music ...
Kindly-Ad-8573@reddit
Regular and irregular draw a regular donut in the left box and a donut with a bite taken out in the irregular pile to the right.
Brezzo01@reddit
As a teacher I can tell that is a white rose maths question! Awfully worded questions and so difficult to understand without context (the title of the lesson). I’m assuming it will be something to do with symmetry as I remember when I taught KS1 they loved to sort shapes that way on the worksheets. Wouldn’t be as bad if it was in a collection of symmetry questions but I guess homework is meant to be a recap
Jassida@reddit
This question is horribly worded. I was looking for a shape that would fit in both sets.
5tring@reddit
I would say they are all different colours. But as the top commenters pointed out, the answer is vertical symmetry.
suzel7@reddit
Regular and irregular?
Competitive_Song124@reddit
I think the appropriate question should have been “How have these shapes been grouped”?
RickyBobbyBooBaa@reddit
They are sorted by colours.
Any-Ad8498@reddit
That’s a really cunty question for a 6yo! Especially as they coloured them in, which is completely unnecessary, and is likely to be one of the first things a child notes. And with no example, expecting them to get ‘vertical line symmetry’ 🥴
ShadoeStorme@reddit
regular vs irregular shapes
jessicamelling@reddit
I'm a teacher who has taught this exact lesson to a Year 2 class before. White Rose Maths is great at scaffolding new concepts. Every worksheet starts with concrete questions linking to what the teacher has modelled, then it gradually builds up to more abstract questions (like this example).
I can see how this question can be baffling out of context, but for children learning specifically about symmetry in Year 2, it just makes sense to them. It's like when children learn to read and write. Parents often have no idea what the phonics sounds are and will wonder why their child is drawing dashes and dots under every word, but to the child it just makes sense and within no time at all they're reading and writing sentences.
Dear-Cancel-7137@reddit
One side is bright colours, the other side is pale colours.
kindsoberfullydressd@reddit
I think it’s supposed to be equal internal angles and not equal internal angles, but the teacher forgot about the 270^o angles in the cross and just thought it’s all 90^o .
upturned-bonce@reddit
Not aged 6.
ATCQ_@reddit
"6 year old's"
YouNeedAnne@reddit
The kid is 6
rocksteady77@reddit
Yeah right. This is either there to torture parents who are helping their kids or there to find genius 6 year olds if it's about angles
Pedantichrist@reddit
I’m thinking that you just remove the word ‘internal’ and it all works. Have you added unnecessary complexity?
celaconacr@reddit
That was the bit that confused me and I assume the same.
Anxious_Prize_4464@reddit
I think the left has at least one line of symmetry and the right doesn't have any lines of symmetry
Ok-Department-8771@reddit
All the shapes on the left are equal when split in half, and have equal sides.
All the right have odd sized sides, and aren't equal.
Only solution I would think is maybe a circle is the last shape?
hc104168@reddit
Absolutely no idea. Is this to see of your 6 year old qualifies for MENSA?
flickhisbean@reddit
As a teacher, all I can say is I apologise for white rose maths. I have issues with it too but if any wlparemt needs help message and I'll explain or send answers if I've got access
InsertRadnamehere@reddit
regular vs irregular
browntownfm@reddit
Symmetrical and nom symmetrical
Neat_Cicada_2865@reddit
the left: same size angles under 180 the right: different size angles under 180
karainnvalkyrie@reddit
The question should have said "grouped", not "sorted".
JakieWakieEggsNBakie@reddit
Congrats on the Mensa kid, OP.
Helpful_Honeysuckle@reddit
Whether or not the angles of the shape are all the same or different
MulberryComfortable4@reddit
The shapes on the left have 3, 4, 8 and 12 sides. The shapes on the right have 3, 4, and 8 sides. To fit the pattern, I would draw a 12 sided shape on the right
Chronicallydubious@reddit
Each shape is made up of equal angled corners on the left but the ones on the right have different angles
rubygloommel@reddit
Lines of symmetry?
shouldknowbetter45@reddit
All the angles are equal in one side
ghostofkilgore@reddit
By colour. Going clockwise, it goes blue, orange, green, yellow. So draw a yellow shape between the green and the blue.
GeneralStop7552@reddit
If you draw one vertical line on centre of the shapes, left ones are symmetrical and right ones are not.. that is my observation
Blayd9@reddit
Symmetry seems like the most obvious and age appropriate answer.
Alightsong@reddit
It's to do with mirroring, so the left could be a square, and the right would be something odd like a heart
Ill-Designer5081@reddit
Its regular vs irregular polygons
MajesticCommission33@reddit
I thought it was either symmetry or whether the external corners would touch the edge of a circle.
BombayBadBoi2@reddit
The only pattern I see is, going clockwise, starting from a specific shape each shape after has one less corner. For the left start at the yellow cross, for the right start at the arrow.
ToughFriendly9763@reddit
The ones on the left all have the same angle within a shape, the ones on the right have different angles.
AgileSurprise1966@reddit
All the shapes in the left group have only one type of angle per shape. The shapes in the second group have various angles.
Some-Ad-3938@reddit
Yellow rectangle
iamnosuperman123@reddit
And here is me setting the most basic homework imaginable with zero marking involved for my Yr 1s
ozz9955@reddit
They're all symmetrical. What're you...5??
The_Red_Celt@reddit
It goes in the square hole
Razor_92@reddit
One is primary colours the other is slightly off primary colours.
nbenj1990@reddit
That looks like a white rose worksheet. What is the title of the page? Is it symmetry?
BroBroly@reddit
Symmetrical Vs non symmetrical
pinkylovesme@reddit
If they’re 6 , this question is to see if the parents are doing the homework.
Croolick_Floofo@reddit
I said the ones on the right are lighter shades of the ones on the left 😬
3pointBrick@reddit
Left = 2 lines of symmetry Right = none or 1
I don’t think many 6yr olds are getting that!
Upvotelution@reddit
Regular shapes and irregular shapes?
Pristine-Loan-5688@reddit
I thought it was that all the angles on the left were meant to be equal and those on the right had different angles? I mean that left hand triangle doesn’t look exactly equal but that makes more sense to me than symmetry. What were the other exercises about?
SamVimesBootTheory@reddit
My first thought is left shapes are all 'even' and the right ones are 'odd'
sticklecat@reddit
Every angle when the left hand shapes are consistent for each shape. Right hand shapes have a combination of angles in them
jf4maddy@reddit
Circle 1 - all the angles are the same within each shape (equilateral triangle). Circle 2 - angles are different (right triangle).
Shiftz_101@reddit
Keen to remind that homework assignments are an extension of what was learned in the classroom. It's not like they're springing brainteasers on 6 year olds
diond09@reddit
Is the teacher Mrs Coren Mitchell?
Swotboy2000@reddit
Only a few will Connect with this comment.
azorius_mage@reddit
Pop an egg in the bath and you will be fine
JLB_cleanshirt@reddit
Don't forget some pocket meats
azorius_mage@reddit
Nah you get a bit meggy then
RoyceCoolidge@reddit
Does everybody know a Chris Rea song?
Let's all sing it together..... 1....2....3.....
jojojojojojoseph@reddit
dntb sr d cls
allibys@reddit
Ding!
Don't be so ridiculous?
jojojojojojoseph@reddit
…is the correct answer 👏
Key_Cartographer6668@reddit
Next question: Why was the March Hare important to the Aztecs?
Herne_KZN@reddit
WORSHIP IT! WORSHIP IT!
danabrey@reddit
I didn't even google the answer.
Ronald_Ulysses_Swans@reddit
The colours correspond to European flags from the Middle Ages where the number of sides equals the number of syllables in that country’s name in the 12th century.
Any idiot could have seen that.
GourangaPlusPlus@reddit
That's what I go to school for suddenly started playing in my head
sleeper_shark@reddit
I would guess it’s that the left group can be symmetrically bisected by a vertical or horizontal line, or that they exhibit some kind of radial symmetry, while the right group does not.
upturned-bonce@reddit
If they're in Y2, they've probably just been doing symmetry. The problem with the symmetry worksheets is the graphics always get warped so the red arrow shape in the right-hand oval was probably more asymmetrical in the original.
audigex@reddit
Yeah that's the only thing that really makes sense here, that arrowhead is too close to symmetrical to fit but a warped worksheet could make some sense
upturned-bonce@reddit
The warped worksheets drive me absolutely nuts.
Moleynator@reddit
Unless it’s just vertical symmetry?
Its-Axel_B@reddit
I think it's about symmetry.
Draw an equilateral triangle in group a and a random blob in the other.
United_Post7492@reddit
All shapes in the left group have more than one line of symmetry, the others do not. Not immediately obvious but I think that’s your best bet.
Fit_Estimate9455@reddit
Shapes that can be mirrored in the middle??
My reasoning is that if you put a mirror in the middle the reflection will keep the same shape whilst others don't.
Old_Crow_5646@reddit
This feels relevant https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEh2osUvuMI
Bushdr78@reddit
Pentagon?
MacaroonOverall9904@reddit
pentagon
thereal_greg6@reddit
Left is symmetrical, right is not. Draw a symmetrical shape for left and an asymmetric shape for the right.
The kid’s 6 so I imagine as long as they’ve got some reasoning as to why they’ve done a shape for each group will probably suffice as having some educational value.
Busif20@reddit
i assume its regular and irregular shapes?
krulp@reddit
The group on the left has all the same angle corners
papercut2008uk@reddit
It’s Symmetry?
Ones on left and symmetrical ones on right are not?
Nrysis@reddit
The question to ask is 'what was your lesson today about?'
That should provide a pretty big clue to enable you to work out the answer - fron other posts it was 'symmetry', so you would look at that first, if the lesson was on 'even and odd numbers', then the answer may be how many sides each shape has, if it was about colours then your answer would be along those lines...
rmeechan@reddit
Group one uses only one angle, group two consists of different angles.
It’s definitely not an easy question.
challenger_crow@reddit
Chirality
Automatic-Bat-9182@reddit
Draw a 5 sided shape
TedsterTheSecond@reddit
Do they work for LUMON?
A very 'Severance' Puzzle.
wdCassiopeia@reddit
I think the question probably makes more sense in context. If the whole homework is on the topic of vertical symmetry, this one is quite easy to answer.
Lt_Muffintoes@reddit
It's actually that the left ones have rotational symmetry, while the right ones do not.
The official answer is wrong.
JLB_cleanshirt@reddit
I was counting the sides and trying to make sense of the left group
Solabound-the-2nd@reddit
If you go clockwise from leftmost object on the left hand image, you go from most amount of edges to least. If you go clockwise from the rightmost object in the right image, you also go from the most amount of edges to the least. That's literally all I could coke up with lol
Masterofsnacking@reddit
This is a 6 year old's homework?? What was I doing when I was 6?!?!?
HumpaDaBear@reddit
Left has rigid side shapes, right has tilted sides. Square vs parallelogram.
Green_Sprout@reddit
The left group are symmetrical, the right is not. A lot of answers are overthinking it.
anthonycottingham@reddit
Left has rotational symmetry, right doesn’t. Or: left has at least two mirror symmetries, right has at most one.
Exercise for the reader: prove that these two are equivalent.
red_nick@reddit
Parallelogram on the right has rotational symmetry though?
Silhouette@reddit
Those two are not equivalent in general. The parallelogram shown in the picture has rotational symmetry but no mirror symmetries.
Izwe@reddit
Rotational symmetry seems like the right answer to me, but not the kind of thing a six year old would be learning
platypuss1871@reddit
The parallelogram on the right has rotational symmetry.
AgreeableJello6644@reddit
Symmetry about the vertical line.
audigex@reddit
All angles in each shape on the left are consistent, those on the right are not
It seems weird to teach that at age 6, but the only other thing I see would be rotational symmetry... and the parallelogram on the right has the same rotational symmetry as the rectangle on the left
richardstan@reddit
You are about to find out 6 year olds are expected to be smarter than you.
data15cool@reddit
All have more than one order of rotational and reflection symmetry
Bobbly_1010257@reddit
Basic 3 and 4 sided shapes in one, complex multi-sided shapes in the other.
trentuberman@reddit
8 sided shape
ThePeak2112@reddit
This is why I failed my job aptitude test.
averybritishfilipina@reddit
Everyone is thinking with their ages and what they have learned so far - mixing Geometry, Algebra and Logic. This is a homework of a 6 years old. Think the answer is just a yellow shape in the other circle. Colors, people, colors. 😁
Or maybe its not really the homework of a 6 year-old and OP is just confusing us? 😁👍 Peace.
Gekey14@reddit
The first set of shapes are generally happy with their life and are organised, the second shape are unhappy and feel they should be doing better. Except for the rhombus, that's a red herring
Difficult-Rice-806@reddit
The ones on the left are symmetrical or maybe equilateral, the ones on the right aren't
Stevie_2k@reddit
Sorted by colour and yellows missing from second picture
Chemical_Youth8950@reddit
The answer is the group on the left has 2 or more axises of symmetry.
The red arrow thing only has one
hlvd@reddit
He’s 6…
Chemical_Youth8950@reddit
If you give a 6 year old a paper copy of each shape and tell them to figure out what's special. They may figure out that they can folder the objects on the left down a line of symmetry more than one way.
A 6 year old might not be expected to know the answer but some of them may know that for some of them they can be folded more than one way and have it be symmetrical.
hlvd@reddit
I don’t think so, you’re over complicating things.
The answer is the number of sides on each object, 6 year old children don’t learn about angles.
Chemical_Youth8950@reddit
But I'm not talking about angles?
What do you mean it's the number of sides on each object?
hlvd@reddit
How are the shapes sorted?
They’ve all got a different number of sides. The new shape should either be a circle or with more sides than the others in both bubbles.
That’s how I interpret the question.
Chemical_Youth8950@reddit
But that's not how they are sorted?
If you were given all of the shapes unsorted and were then asked to sort them based on the answer I originally gave, you'd get those groups.
Your answer about the number of sides is wrong as you have two 3-sided shapes and two 4-sided shapes.
For the additional shapes for each group, the left side could have a square, circle or star. The right side could have any shape that doesn't have a line of symmetry or only has one line of symmetry, eg. a rhombus or an irregular pentagon.
hlvd@reddit
Well, if that’s the case, 6-year-olds are significantly more advanced than I was when I was in school.
jhfarmrenov@reddit
This. Finally.
Educational-Cow-3874@reddit
The ones in the left oval are to the left of the objects in the right oval, while those in the right oval are to the right of the objects in the left oval.
mahamrap@reddit
I'd add a pentagon to each group. This way every shape in the group has a unique number of sides 🤔
Nine_Eye_Ron@reddit
My first question when stuck like this is “what have you been learning about”.
I tragically overthink things all the time, usually the simplest answer is the correct one.
Rastasheet@reddit
right side slanted lines, left straight
fussyfella@reddit
Oh dear, one of those "read the question setter's mind" questions.
I though we had gone beyond this sort of so called "intelligence" test. These basically just find if someone thinks like the person inventing the questions. The smart candidates will see patterns the original setter did not even see and likely get marked down for it.
Jonny_rhodes@reddit
Same size angles, varied size angles
apcat91@reddit
Organised by colour.
Add a yellow shape to the bottom left.
damadmetz@reddit
In the left one, draw a circle, in the right, an oval.
mediumsizemonkey@reddit
But one of the left shapes is a rectangle, so an oval is a bit like that too, with two planes of symmetry. Circle would fit on the left, or hexagon, etc.
Just draw a dog on the right.
swanderbra@reddit
Isn’t one side have all the same angle?
3wheel-ups@reddit (OP)
The answer has been confirmed by my sons teacher:
Left symmetrical, right not symmetrical
She also confirmed, they are not currently learning about symmetry
Material_Mouse_4485@reddit
The answer? I'm still trying to figure out what the question is
BackToSpaceMaddie@reddit
The ones on the left are symmetrical, the ones on the right aren’t
3wheel-ups@reddit (OP)
The answer has been confirmed by my sons teacher:
Left symmetrical, right not symmetrical
She also said, they are not currently learning about symmetry!
Professional_Base708@reddit
Maybe don’t get the answer and hope they explain it again. Other children must be confused too.
greenpowerman99@reddit
Symmetrical on the left asymmetrical on the right.
no-hachi@reddit
The ones on the left have same angles / even angles, while the ones on the right have different size angles.
gingerbenji@reddit
Sorted anticlockwise by number of sides
joshhyb153@reddit
Is it not symmetrical shapes?
souper2024@reddit
pastel coloured shapes and not pastel coloured shapes, duh
Scart_O@reddit
12 sided shape
iamrubberyouareglue9@reddit
Are there wrong answers here? I think both areas are missing purple circles. Pink stars would fit too.
hlvd@reddit
They’re sorted on number of sides? The new shape would have 13 or more in the first bubble and 7 or more in the second.
Affectionate-Slip887@reddit
Hell no to kids homework 😂😂. I think maybe even sides vs odd sides
Right_Pay2690@reddit
All the angles are the same on the left, whereas the angles between the sides on the right group are not all the same
bx14twypt@reddit
A pink squarcle would be correct.
Takseee@reddit
Looks like you have the answer but yeah the left group are all symmetrical.
Appropriate_Sky_4430@reddit
Regular and irregular shapes
fubblebreeze@reddit
That seems more like an IQ test than homework for a 6-year old. Weird. Are you sure this teacher isn't up to something?
iamdennisreynolds91@reddit
Isn’t it just about the number of sides?
Disgruntled__Goat@reddit
In what sense? They all have varying numbers of sides in both groups!
iamdennisreynolds91@reddit
That’s the question, draw another shape that fits. On the left there is, 3,4,8 & 12 and on the right there is 3,4 and 6.
Draw a 7 sided shape and it’s all good?
Disgruntled__Goat@reddit
Why would that fit? Nothing you've said makes any sense lol
Sea_Puddle@reddit
Just draw a line around the whole thing and now they also have an oval in each group
dennygau@reddit
Right has different angles, the left has all the same angles
tumpum@reddit
First circle - shapes that have same angles.e.g. rectangle has all angles at 90°. Draw any shape that has all angles the same.
Second circle - angles in shapes are not all the same. Draw any shape that has different angles.
lattd@reddit
The shapes on the left the angles are all equal degrees where as the shapes on the right have varying degrees on their angles
quick_justice@reddit
All corners same vs not all corners same. It’s pretty straightforward and a 6 year old can understand it.
It may look random but it depends on the topic they are exploring. If they are on the topic of polygons and their angles - otherwise known as shapes - this is a very appropriate topical question.
Quite possible they spent an hour in class drilling “same-different”.
MrBfJohn@reddit
I was thinking that each of the shapes in the left circle has only one type of angle (Yellow is all 90, green is all 60 etc), whereas the right circle each shape has at least 2 types.
NilByM0uth@reddit
Number of sides perhaps. A pentagon would answer the 2nd part
Artistic_Data9398@reddit
With and without Symmetry lol
veryabnormal@reddit
The left group is symmetrical, the right group is not.
Add a square to the left group and an irregular polygon to the right group.
miluiel666@reddit
I would guess rotational symmetry for the left and no rotational symmetry on the right
KoBoWC@reddit
They are ordered anti clockwise by number of sides.
There are 'gaps' in the sequences for another shape (or more in each). The shapes are also symmetrical via at least one plane.
Soggy_Literature_332@reddit
If i have an angel grinder I can make all of them fit in 1 hole at once
Shoutgun@reddit
Those on the left have every angle the same. Those on the right have more than one different angle:
kudincha@reddit
The left are standard primary colours, the right are washed out pastel nonsense type colours.
They are sorted by colour, as every good mathematician knows to do. They are sorting out the purebred shapes Vs the mongrelized shapes.
You should do the opposite with the shapes you add to teach these racists a lesson. Like that black swan shit.
Dr_D-M-T@reddit
left shapes all have at least 3 same angles right side all have different or only 2 matching. this might not be correct for the answer but it works
mariegriffiths@reddit
Yellow circle. Yellow being the missing colour and all the shapes on the right have 2 less edges.
Odd_Support_3600@reddit
The answer is - teacher drinks
Nigglym@reddit
Had to scroll far to far to find the right answer. Badly hungover supply teacher puts a random worksheet they found in a drawer in as the classes homework before wandering off to look for paracetamol lol
hello-its-G@reddit
All equal internal angels on one side. All different on the other.
MMLCG@reddit
All angles in the shapes are the same in one set, different in the other set.
goatsaber@reddit
Is it about the number of sides? So put a 14 sided shape with the first group, and an 8 sided shape in the second one?
JollyState6455@reddit
Regular shapes are sorted into the left oval and irregular shapes are sorted in the right oval
Icy-Candy3479@reddit
One side of shapes sides have equal angles whilst the other shapes don't have equal angles. Ks2 teacher here
IAmNotAnImposter@reddit
Took me an embarrassing amount of time to realise they weren't asking for a shape that satisfied both conditions.
rachelcp@reddit
Lines of symmetry? All the shapes on the left have at least 2 lines of symmetry the ones in the right group only have 1?
TransPennineMigrant@reddit
Mirrors n that innit. If you put a mirror down the middle of the shapes on the left, the reflections complete the shape tho styl
You try pullin that sh on the shapes on the right? Nah fam, u buggin
Symmetry
Ok_Gear6019@reddit
All.equal angles on the left
Do I get a star miss
NarrativeFact@reddit
They are sorted into big ovals. Draw a slightly smaller oval around each set.
ZachMatthews@reddit
The ones on the left all have equivalent angles no matter where you measure.
The ones on the right are a mix of two or more different angles. You would draw a square on the left and maybe a pointy diamond on the right.
N7twitch@reddit
It’s definitely vertical symmetry. I remember when we learned it at school we were given a little mirror to line up on the page and see if it was symmetrical.
Given the ages involved, it’s going to be whether or not you can put an uppy-downy mirror on it and get symmetry.
The red one in the second box is a red herring, it has symmetry but not vertical symmetry.
definitelynotfae@reddit
It’s for a 6 year old, this has to be the right answer, just symmetrical and asymmetrical shapes.
deadleg22@reddit
ChatGPT had a stroke: The shapes in the diagram appear to be sorted based on the number of sides:
.
UmlautsAndRedPandas@reddit
Is your son meant to draw a 12 sided shape?
You've got two triangles, one rectangle and one rhombus (both four sided shapes), a hexagon and a fat chevron (both six sided shapes), that leaves that fat Swiss cross thing which has 12 sides.
MrPinkletoes@reddit
This is what I immediately thought too, it's the simplest answer.
Everyone banging on about vertical symmetry and internal angles...
LordSn00ty@reddit
Me three. 3,4,8,12 vs 3,4,8,x.
Just draw a shape with 12 sides.
Jaffiusjaffa@reddit
Hear me out. A purple hexadecagon on the left. And a yellow irregular octagon on the right.
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
It’s symmetry. But I think it’s more than 1 line on the left and 1 or less on the right.
daneview@reddit
Regular shapes and irregular shapes
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
The cross shape on the left is irregular.
daneview@reddit
True dat!
cmdrxander@reddit
Yep. Rotational symmetry.
AdhesivenessLost151@reddit
The green triangle on the left is isosceles. If we’re saying that the red shape on the right has no lines of symmetry (it looks like is has but the angles don’t match) then we have to be that accurate for all of them. The angles in the green triangle are approx 56.7, 56.7 and 66.6. (Actually I get them to all be slightly different but it’s a fuzzy line and I’ve had to zoom in a lot, but the top angle is definitely different to the bottom pair).
The left green triangle only has rotational symmetry of 1 regardless though.
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
I think that’s just a poor drawing and it is supposed to be considered an equilateral. Which really just highlights how bad it really is as a question.
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
I thought that but the parallelogram has rotational.
cmdrxander@reddit
That is true…
thrrowaway4obreasons@reddit
I would also like to add I’m a maths teacher and this is ambiguous at the least.
bearlyentertained@reddit
They’re symmetrical
FutureThinkingMan@reddit
Symmetry and asymmetry
wijm02@reddit
The shapes on the left have both mirror and rotational symmetry. The shapes on the right do not
Meanwhile-in-Paris@reddit
Symmetrical/Asymmetrical
HuntWorldly5532@reddit
One bubble has darker shaded shapes than the other bubble... A pale yellow shape is missing!
Seriously though, what a confounding homework. I feel so sad for all the kids who just feel hopeless when they are faced with homework even the grownups struggle to comprehend... It is so bad for their confidence.
And we wonder why so many kids hate maths.
Book-Faramir-Better@reddit
Primary colors vs. Other colors? Not that red, blue, green, and yellow are primaries (might be considered additive + subtractive primaries... sorta, at a crayon level)
Normal shapes vs. weird-looking shapes?
Symbols used in Ancient Martian texts vs. Odd shapes that don't mean anything?
heartthump@reddit
You have a 3 sided shape, a 4 sided shape, and a 5 sided shape in each. Except the left one has an 8 sided shape too. Does it want you to draw an octagon to go with the right one?
Except it says to go in “each” so i am not sure this is the answer
Far_Garlic_2181@reddit
The first group you can turn round and they still look the same.
diagboxes@reddit
Draw something green.
queenawkwardfart@reddit
The left are all symmetrical
Sumpner@reddit
Is it not just number of sides?
Decent_Blacksmith_54@reddit
All the shapes on the left have angles that are the same, the ones on the right have at least one angle that is different. So the triangle on the left has 3 angles that are equal, the triangle on the right has one 90 degree angle and 2 other angles
stockymac@reddit
Orange circle on the left
Purple Arrow on the right
Attapussy@reddit
With the two images, I'm pretty sure that the six-year-olds are learning to note the number of sides in each object. So simple numbers -- three, four, six, eight, twelve, and so on.
catjellycat@reddit
it’s that the ones on the left are ‘regular’ and the ones on the right are ‘irregular’
It won’t be about angles
CuckAdminsDkSuckers@reddit
For a 6 year old - draw any yellow shape in lower left side of the right circle
Either_Fig_7558@reddit
it says to draw a shape in EACH group?
thingsonmymind@reddit
I'm surprised I had to scroll so far down to see this. This was my take as well, but so many people are talking about symmetrical and asymmetrical shapes. I'm struggling to see how a 6 year old would get that over a colour pattern. But then again I don't know many 6 year olds so maybe this is exactly what they learn these days 😅
NecessaryDonkey2495@reddit
Seriously, this is the answer. All these "hurrdurr I am so smurt" answers about internal fucking angles... the child is six years old. Congrats you're smarter than a six year old, well done lol.
SpicyAfrican@reddit
Two things I spot.
Counter-clockwise they increase in sides. First group, the triangle at six o'clock has three sides, square has four, octogan has eight, and the plus has ten. The second group is the same. Three sides, four sides, and then six sides.
Symmetrical on the left group and asymmetrical on the right. I don't think this is necessarily correctly because the six-sided shape on the right could be symmetrical if it were rotated or you halve it at the right angle. Since no rules are established I don't think that's it.
Caraabonn@reddit
My 2 pences - lines of symmetry with a little mirror. If so this, is the same work I recall ~25 years ago.
AdBoring7649@reddit
one side can be mirrored
jake_burger@reddit
The first groups corner angles are all the same.
I don’t know the proper word for it.
The second group is irregular, different angles on different sides.
I might be wrong because the yellow shape and the chevron don’t quite fit my answer.
greenwithembii@reddit
Add a dark green one
Weak_Working_5035@reddit
Something yellow
BobbyP27@reddit
All the left hand group have every corner having the same angle (while the yellow cross has "interior" and "exterior", they are all 90 degree angles). All the right hand group have more than one angle at their vertices.
palpatineforever@reddit
I would draw something symetrical in the left hand one, and something non symetrical in the right. the orange arrow shape might be symetrical at and angle but not if you draw a line down the middle at present.
corpboy@reddit
Except the orange shape in the right box is symmetrical as well.
palpatineforever@reddit
It isn't quite somone else rotated it etc, its slightly off.
Also a 6 year old's hw for symmetry would be only on the vertical or horizontal axis not on a angle/rotating the object.
These are vertical axis symmetry.
AndorElitist@reddit
That’s not how symmetry works, drawing a random line doesn’t disprove the object having symmetry. The line of symmetry is different for each object. Orange arrow is symmetrical
Scrambledpeggle@reddit
Isn't it just they go up in number of sides as you move anticlockwise?
Paranub@reddit
Left = all shapes can be folded in half vertically. So you draw a square
Right = all shapes cant, so draw something like a crescent moon.
Least thats what i'd do if it was my daughter.
shutuppayourface@reddit
You lot are overthinking this, surely it's just to do with the amount of sides on each shape.
Mew_Knight@reddit
Looks to me that those on the left are rotational symmetrical and right is not.
iwantgrapefruits@reddit
Shapes on the left has at least 2 planes of symmetry (to create mirror image) and in the right has less than 2. Yes the top right shape is mirror image but it only has 1 way or symmetry, but all the shapes on the left you can have multiple ways draw a line across while creating mirror images on each side
Fjordi_Cruyff@reddit
Are you smarter than a 6 year old? No. No I am not.
Myavatargotsnowedon@reddit
Saying these are constantly assorted in some way is like saying whoever made this question knew what they were doing.
Dont_trust_royalmail@reddit
Manifolds are locally euclidian Vs homotopically compact
peppermint_aero@reddit
kid is 6 tho
tamhenk@reddit
1 group is Symmetrical and the other is non symmetrical
is my guess.
NecessaryFreedom9799@reddit
No, they all have lines of symmetry.
JizzmgasmExperience@reddit
The parallelogram and triangle on the left certainly do not
LegoNinja11@reddit
Nope.
hermitish@reddit
I’m thinking the left has all internal angles equal and the right has multiple internal angles. So you could draw a regular pentagon on the left and a pentagon with one point sticking more out for the other, or any variation on that
aqueousdan@reddit
If it’s for a 6 year old I guess they just want another random green shape.
CoatDelicious9289@reddit
Polygons on the left non-polygons on the right
Dizmondmon@reddit
Just in case no-one got it, it's similar angles I think.
WannabeeFilmDirector@reddit
Majoring in maths stats, I naturally assumed some kind of number sequence. I discounted symmetry because of the lack of symmetry and positive correlation. I then looked a series of different equations which we used on the first ever neural network I'd worked on which were used to analyse a series of different, real world problems. I was looking at imaginary numbers because I'd studied in France so they were big on Descartes.
Then my other looked over my shoulder wondering what I was doing. She used to work in a school as a nurse.
It's just the number of sides she said. Look, they're in order when you go counter clockwise. You can then add shapes with more sides between a couple of them.
Own_Week_5009@reddit
Whatever this is its bullshit
IntelligentAd2647@reddit
They are not sorted at all…
sorting by definition requires and order or sequence. They are categorised.
If we are talking specifically about sorting, then with 2 groups the best we can do is assume it’s a descending sequence going from 4 object to 3 objects.
megsbog1@reddit
Rotational symmetry?
leshpar@reddit
5 sided shape. It fits both.
littlebeanio@reddit
Regular vs irregular polygons, or shapes with symmetry?
Jamziboy0@reddit
It's Rotational Symmetry - all the ones on the left can be rotated 90/120/180 degrees to be similar, but on the right, they have to be rotated a full 360 degrees meaning they do not have rotational symmetry
Usermemealreadytaken@reddit
regular and irregular shapes no?
Dredger1482@reddit
The thing I never understand when kids homework comes up on these things is how you can’t work it out by asking the kid what they were learning that day. The homework is designed to reinforce classroom learning. They’re not introducing a brand new concept. Surely when something like this comes up you just ask the kid what it was they were learning that day? A title on the worksheet would also not be too much to ask for of course, but still.
3wheel-ups@reddit (OP)
Have you ever tried to ask a child what they did at school? Blood from a stone…
flimflam_machine@reddit
Shapes with more saturated colours go in the left group?
flohara@reddit
Yeah that was my first thought.
Technically not wrong, should be accepted as an answer.
Ask an ambiguous question, you'll get creative solutions.
prefim@reddit
The shapes are sorted by increasing number of sides. An additional shape would require more sides than the highest sided shape in each group. More than 12 in the left group, more than 6 n the right group. dont overthink it and I don't think there's a numerical pattern to the number of sides in each group.
Nedonomicon@reddit
Number of sides ?
8WaterMelonPips@reddit
Similar to the mirror comment. If you flip the shapes in bubble one, so place the mirror at the base or at the side or above, you get the same shap. With bubble 2, the shapes will be flipped.
TheBigBoyJamie@reddit
All of the shapes on the left have equal inside angles
Gazza_s_89@reddit
Even angles on every corner versus different angles on every corner.
Though i Think the yellow cross is dodgy,that's 90s + 270s IMO, not 90s and 90s.
pikantnasuka@reddit
without checking the other replies I'd guess symmetry? left circle are, right circle are not symmetrical?
Legitimate_Finger_69@reddit
It will be symmetry, with a teacher who thinks because they've put it at an angle it's not symmetrical any more. They love symmetry at KS1 because you can use mirrors and rulers and cut things out.
I used to volunteer in a year 4 class and some of the dumb/ambiguous/unsolvable questions they were given was ridiculous. Having to explain that in maths theres always one answer but sometimes multiple questions...
Apprehensive-Cat-500@reddit
The teacher didn't think it - it's from white rose maths
cmdrxander@reddit
Or maybe it’s just about rotational symmetry rather than teachers automatically being incompetent?
No-Jicama-6523@reddit
If this is the answer it’s poor quality material to confuse the children with a shape with one plane of symmetry on the other side.
DrAconianRubberDucky@reddit
All look symmetrical. At least I assume that to be the answer for a 6 year olds assignment rather than anything to do with angles.
Apprehensive-Cat-500@reddit
Vertical lines of symmetry and not
DecorouslyDecorous@reddit
The question did not explicitly clarify its dimensions (2D or 3D). Therefore, for the first group, we could slot a “line” (1-D shape). For the second group, we could slot a “point” (0-D shape).
Idkwnisu@reddit
I think all the angles on the left are the same, while the shapes on the right have different angles
Ok-Mama-5933@reddit
Regular shapes and irregular shapes. The ones on the right are irregular. They don’t have equal side and have angles of different measures. The obtuse triangle is an irregular shape.
reddit-rob-1@reddit
I would have thought its the angles - all angles of each shape on left hand selection are same (even the cross when you consider inside and outside shape) and various on the shapes on the right
chabybaloo@reddit
Left a circle Right a Pentagon
One is probably right
Guinnessron@reddit
By color. Dra a yellow shape under the triangle on the right.
SwordTaster@reddit
The shapes on the left have MULTIPLE lines of symmetry, the ones on the right have 1 or none
TheWinterKing@reddit
If that was the intention then they messed up the triangle.
Philluminati@reddit
The triangle on the left has three lines from symmetry. From each corner to the half way point of the opposite line. The right angle triangle has zero lines of symmetry, and only would if sides a + b were equal which they are not. I think it holds.
TheWinterKing@reddit
If you rotate the image it looks to me like the triangle on the left only has one line of symmetry. Try drawing that line from either of the corners at the base of the triangle to their opposite sides and you’ll see the two parts are asymmetrical.
Happylittlecultist@reddit
The one on the left has 3. Can't see any on the right hand one.
SwordTaster@reddit
Which one?
TheWinterKing@reddit
The green one on the left. It’s an isosceles with one line of symmetry rather than an equilateral triangle with three.
SwordTaster@reddit
I think they were going for equilateral
bunkbedgirl1989@reddit
Regular and irregular?
Silent_Rhombus@reddit
How are the shapes sorted? Haphazardly.
Done.
Virtual_Mess3393@reddit
Symmetry on the vertical axis
NobbysElbow@reddit
It's equal sides. Group 1 contains equilateral shapes, group 2 contains shapes with different sized sides.
For example: Group one you could add an equilateral star, Group 2, you could add a shape that looks like a triangle with the top cut off * Like this
goldenzim@reddit
Shapes on the left can be reflected along the y axis and remain identical. Shapes on the right will be reversed.
Fuck that question for a six year old tho! 😉
Satchm0Jon3s@reddit
Left symmetrical. Right not symmetrical. Thats my best guess anyway.
Description is terrible.
ColJohnMatrix85@reddit
I agree. Looking at the replies here, the general consensus is that these are groups of symmetrical and asymmetrical shapes, but even then it's ambiguous and people can't agree!
How a 6 year old is supposed to clearly understand this, I don't know.
xX8Havok8Xx@reddit
Left has a vertical line of symmetry and the right has an angled line of symmetry
joh2488@reddit
Equal angles
Competitive_News_385@reddit
Regular and irregular shapes.
dogbolter4@reddit
This is very poorly chosen for six year olds. They should be experiencing maths as something fun and interesting, not opaque and difficult. Signed, an educator.
Fluffy_Juggernaut_@reddit
The shapes on the left contain angles that are all the same size
Fantastic_Jury5977@reddit
Square with the left group, money sign on the right
JibberJim@reddit
"randomly" "draw dinosaur and penis"
(I have no other ideas)
SpudFire@reddit
They're symmetrical on the left, so are you drawing a symmetrical dinosaur in that group or a wonky willy?
JibberJim@reddit
always a wonky willy, it's one of the few things I've actually learnt in my life.
amacadabra@reddit
Penis on the left and dinosaur on the right would work.
gloomfilter@reddit
Ambiguously is the answer.
vikatoyah@reddit
Doesn’t matter what shape they actually draw as long as it’s yellow.
telechef@reddit
The shapes on the left are regular (symmetrical and all sides/angles are equal), and the shapes on the right are irregular (asymmetrical or have unequal sides/angles).
Mrspygmypiggy@reddit
Is this homework for some genius 6 year olds? I could barely even count to ten at that age. Maybe it was the ADHD and Dyscalculia but still this seems madly difficult for a 6 year old.
Trikecarface@reddit
1 line of symmetry
flusteredchic@reddit
One of each colour per group. Draw 2 different shapes and colour them the same.
MrD-88@reddit
Related to the number of sides maybe?
gtkc21@reddit
The left hand side all have rotational symmetry of order greater than one.
The right hand side do not.
It's not a very good question in my opinion but I teach Maths to an older age group than Year 6, so am no expert.
mellowtrauma@reddit
Equilateral and not.
Acceptable-Gain3322@reddit
I guess it's to do with the number of sides/edges on each shape, going from smallest to largest?
flusteredchic@reddit
They're sorted by colour 😂 draw any shape you want and colour it in green
JoelMahon@reddit
a fucking 6yo? aw hell naw
but got it pretty quickly because my brain is big and good 🥰 /s
pretty sure it's shapes symmetrical along two perpendicular lines on the left, and whilst I'm less sure: shapes on the right just aren't part of the first group.
ofc they could have another idea in mind but mine works so would be pretty bullshit to call it the wrong answer because it's pretty basic and not convoluted.
reallyisthatwatitis@reddit
5 sorry
Praetorian_1975@reddit
Badly, the shapes are sorted badly. ✅
wanderlust_finn@reddit
Its lines of symmetry x
non-hyphenated_@reddit
6 year old! Fuck me!
cmdrxander@reddit
Phrasing…
non-hyphenated_@reddit
Grammar. A comma would have made it bad.
UpsetMarsupial@reddit
There are laws against that kind of thing.
JoeyJoeC@reddit
Errr.....
reallyisthatwatitis@reddit
3 sided, 4 sides, 5 sides then 6. A six sided shape is next in the second equation
iamiconick@reddit
It’s about the number of sides
Disgruntled__Goat@reddit
In what sense? They all have varying numbers of sides in both groups!
iamiconick@reddit
Ooooooo, dunno then. I couldn’t be bothered to count.
Fun_Gas_7777@reddit
Ones on the left are symmetrical.
Treqou@reddit
The ones on the right do not have equal internal angles
shortercrust@reddit
I thought it angles at first - on the left all the angles in each shape are the same - but I think the people saying symmetry are more likely to have the answer they’re looking for.
Exodeus87@reddit
Is it not just that the left hand side have symmetry?
_J0hnD0e_@reddit
TIL I'd fail an exercise meant for 6-year-olds.
CyberKingfisher@reddit
Shapes on the left have TWO lines of symmetry. Shapes on the right don’t.
Draw a circle in the left and a 5-point star in the right.
Next!
AddictedToRugs@reddit
Square and trapezoid.
OldHobbitsDieHard@reddit
I don't know why people are saying symmetry. Symmetry and sorting don't go together. It's clearly number of corners or sides.
Safe-Vegetable1211@reddit
My guess would be rotationally symmetrical.
Without the context of the questions before and after and what the child has been learning recently, these questions always seem a lot harder than they are.
obanite@reddit
I would count the sides. The first circle goes clockwise in descending order of number of sides; the second circle is the other way around. But there's not much space to add a new shape to either group? I don't know where I'd fit my triskaidecagon between the triangle and the weird castle shape in circle 1 lol
Bad question! Bad!
Dragonogard549@reddit
Far too vague for a 6 y/o, I'm 19 this would take me far too long. But itll be to do with the angles. Idk if the parallelogram is technically equilateral or not, but on each shapes the angles are equal on the left (as in the internal:external is the same), and not on the right
thatblu3f0x@reddit
Could it be to do with the angles being equal for each shape on the left? I know I'm stretching it with that 12 sided shape of 90 degree angles.
JockyMc71@reddit
Is she doing a PhD?
Shaper_pmp@reddit
Symmetrical/asymmetrical.
Disgruntled__Goat@reddit
We definitely need a follow-up when you find out the right answer!
ToddleWaddle@reddit
Something to do with the vertical line of symmetry?
perplexedtv@reddit
I presume it's a question on symmetry. The ones on the left are 'regular' symmetrical shapes whereas the ones on the right are not.
Electrical-Lab-9593@reddit
the ones on the left have horizontal symmetry?
xp3ayk@reddit
Circle one - all the angles are equal.
Circle 2 - there are different angles
Upper-Requirement987@reddit
Left side has equal angles, right side has different angles. Draw a square on the left and any sort of shape with differing angles on the right.
OddPiglet6589@reddit
In the second circle are they all obtuse angles?
Difficult_Listen_917@reddit
It's just vertically symmetrical
betraying_fart@reddit
Symmetrical... Non-symmetrical.... Wow lol
Traditional_Cress987@reddit
All internal angles are the same size vs differing internal angles?
I did initially jump on the symmetry answer but the orange shape on the right got me.
oljomo@reddit
Its the angles. All angles for the shapes in the left circle are the same, while all there are different angles on the shapes on the right.
So regulare pentagon on the left, star trek sign on the right.
JustHereForTheMechs@reddit
+1 for left side having a vertical line of symmetry.
cannontd@reddit
Shapes on left have multiple lines of symetry, ones on right have one or none. Stick a square in the left one and any old random shape in the right.
These tasks seems like ridiculously hard for a 6 year old but remember, you are having to work it out from cold, they will likely have had a lesson where they talked about this at length.
ZanzibarGuy@reddit
On the left, all angles are the same (debatable for one shape if limited to only internal angles).
On the right, not all angles are the same.
iakiak@reddit
OP is going to need to provide an update on what the teacher thinks the answer is because thats going very interesting....
Aggravating-Tower317@reddit
Getting homework at six? Feel sorry for him
dronebox@reddit
If that is an equilateral triangle on the left then the shapes are sorted by "multiple" planes of symmetry.. The shapes on the left have two or more, the shapes on the right have one or less..
Traditional_Cress987@reddit
Symmetrical vs asymmetrical
bulgarianlily@reddit
Wouldn't a circle in the first and an oval in the second fit the case?
Fit_Manufacturer4568@reddit
Do they teach 6 year olds about symmetry or “mirror images”?
One set is symmetrical, one is asymmetrical.
Norman_debris@reddit
Mirror symmetry.
Happylittlecultist@reddit
Arrow thingy
CloudyBird_@reddit
Maybe it's about >1 line of symmetry
Norman_debris@reddit
I reckon in year 2 they aren't expected to rotate the shapes.
pelicanradishmuncher@reddit
Symmetry
FatFatPotato@reddit
Any shape will work, just as long as it’s small. I think it’s just an open question to kick start a child’s critical thinking and problem solving.
silverfish477@reddit
Lines of symmetry.
cardiffman100@reddit
The ones on the left have more than one line of symmetry. That's all I can think of.
Bride-of-wire@reddit
You need a 5 sided shape on each side. Everybody is overthinking this one!
Mammoth_Park7184@reddit
The one on the right is a 5 sided shape imo. The one on the left isn't though.
Norman_debris@reddit
Lol wrong.
Malkmouse@reddit
I think it's to do with the internal angles. On the left all angles are the same but the right they vary. Kind of an advanced concept for what appears to be kids homework!
20127010603170562316@reddit
Yellow?
Happylittlecultist@reddit
Got to draw a shape in each
the-boz-boz@reddit
That's my guess. Circle on the right is missing a yellow shape. I think everyone else is overthinking it.
Extreme-Kangaroo-842@reddit
I'd bung a circle in the right hand pane and colour it yellow.
Happylittlecultist@reddit
Drawing a shape in each is required
SameheadMcKenzie@reddit
Just draw any yellow shape
ooh-sheet@reddit
Is it based on regular v irregular shapes?
Wavesmith@reddit
Left are symmetrical, right are both (except one that kinda is but let’s ignore that).
decentlyfair@reddit
I would say that the shapes on the left have more than one line of symmetry and the the ones on the right only have one.
yetanotherdave2@reddit
The left group has multiple rotational symmetry. The group on the right has to be rotated completely to make the same shape.
Wiggidy-Wiggidy-bike@reddit
its the angles if we are talking about a 6 year old. all this symmetry stuff seems way above a 6 year old, but seeing all corners look the same is noticable
AE_Phoenix@reddit
Pretty sure it's supposed to be having 2+ angles of symmetry vs not, but who tf knows with teachers these days.
SenseMakesNone@reddit
Left, every angle is the same person shape. One shape has all 90° etc
Right, angles are not the same, eg 45° and 90° in a single shape.
Valuable-Wallaby-167@reddit
It's vertical lines of symmetry, they're about the right age to be learning that.
Juvenalesque@reddit
Id need to know what lesson they're focusing on that day to know if it's symmetry or reflections etc
nohairday@reddit
Badly?
I have no damn clue.
Traditional_Tea_1879@reddit
A yellow pentagon on the right. But I wouldn't imagine a 6 yo would be able to get there unless they have done a similar exercis in class already. ( Maybe with a different number of vertices)
TJohns88@reddit
Left symmetrical, right asymmetrical
exohugh@reddit
My guess:
Shapes on the left have identical angles between edges (OK, the "+" shape is a bit weird/cheating because it's internal angles 90deg and 270deg but I guess if you ignore the usual measurement of "internal" angles it's ok?)
Shapes om the right have different angles.
its-joe-mo-fo@reddit
These questions always look harder out of context.
In reality, when you know the child is looking at shapes, geometry and symmetry it makes sense.
chartupdate@reddit
I've been doing too much NVR practice with my ten year old ahead of 11 plus. I'd have drawn a dodecahedron to add a 12 sided shape to the 3, 4 and 6 ones already there.
Kayakayakski@reddit
Symmetrical on the left. Unsymmetrical on the right innit.
Difficult-Towel-1083@reddit
The cross on the left hand side makes this a bit dodgy, but on the left they all the angles are the same size, whereas on the right they are not. I could see a primary school teacher making that mistake though.
Pink-socks@reddit
Number of sides of each shape.
Beastons@reddit
More than one line of symmetry.
cherrywraith@reddit
One group is symmetrical - hallve them along a straight line & the halves are identical - the other group is asymmetrical.
ThePolymath1993@reddit
Left side: Red, green, blue, yellow. 3, 4, 8, 12 sides, regular.
Right side: Red, blue, yellow. 3, 4, 6 sides, all irregular.
Left side is missing a regular hexagon and the right side is missing something green and either 8 or 12 sided.
afrosia@reddit
Is it number of sides sorted anti-clockwise?
UncleSnowstorm@reddit
That's a bit tough for a 6 year old. And how would you draw that? If in the circle then there's no space. If out of the circle how do you indicate it's placement?
afrosia@reddit
I agree, but I can't see anything else in here that isn't also pretty tough for a 6 year old.
ExoticExchange@reddit
I think the left have multiple lines of symmetry. A circle would fit as a new option.
On the right they have either none or one line of symmetry. A standard trapezium would be an example to fit there.
North-Context6023@reddit
Left group has rotational symmetry. Right group doesn't.
People saying 2 or more axes of reflectional symmetry in the left group are correct, which is mathematically the same as having rotational symmetry.
Tough question for 6, though.
TheScottishMoscow@reddit
Draw a square in the left oval because there's a line of symmetry.
Draw a trapezoid in the right oval as it has no lines of symmetry
The drawings are poor and they shouldn't have different colours they are 6 FFS
Excellent-Shape-2694@reddit
Damn, the US really does have a second rate education system.
PM_ME_EXCEL_TIPS@reddit
Symmetrical on the left
Random on the right ???
The fact that there is a symmetrical one on the right does not impact the stuff on the list
NotAProperAccount3@reddit
Left has 2 or more lines of symmetry. Right is not symmetrical, or 1 line in the case of the chevron.
Seems like a poor question.
JoeyJoeC@reddit
The red on the right isn't really symmetrical.
james2183@reddit
This feels like a question on The 1% Club
AffectionateJump7896@reddit
All the internal angles of the shapes in the left hand group are equal. You could add a regular pentagon or hexagon to it.
The shapes in the right hand group have differing internal angles. Let's add a kite, or any other irregular shape.
ghazwozza@reddit
The yellow shape has two different internal angles: 90° and 270°.
NuclearCleanUp1@reddit
I would group the objects with equal or less than 4 corners
Monsoon_Storm@reddit
same angles and different
avemango@reddit
Left - symmetrical, right - asymmetrical
Wasusa@reddit
I'm a maths teacher, but not your math teacher.
The shaoes on the left are all regular polygons. They're the 'ideal' version of the shape. So a square, an equilateral triangle, regular octagon. Sides same length, same angles etc. For y6 close enough will be good enough.
Those on the right are irregular polygons. They do not have consistant angles or consistant side lengths.
At a y6 level, probably looking for the word regular polygon or regular shape/ irregular polygon or shape. Will depend on your country and curriculum.
DaZhuRou@reddit
Left circle has more than one line of symmetry, draw a circle.
Right circle has no lines of symmetry, draw an irregular quadrilateral (4 sides of unequal length) ... get a ruler out and make each line 1-2mm longer than the other, as that teach is probably anal.
SaltPomegranate4@reddit
I think you have to draw something yellow
XmasRights@reddit
Rotational Symmetry?
Mayoday_Im_in_love@reddit
There are only two "shapes", ovals filled with crap. Draw another oval with two penises to follow the pattern.
BabaYagasDopple@reddit
5 sided shape needed in the right hand group?
DrewBk@reddit
What subject are they studying at the moment? It will be in that category
mhoulden@reddit
Isn't that a round from The Adventure Game?
(I have separate issues with the idea of children below high school age being set homework, but let's not go there)
AnonyCass@reddit
Here was me thinking it was regular and irregular shapes in some weird way.... Symmetry makes more sense but they should have made the red shape on the right more uneven
EdmundTheInsulter@reddit
I have no idea. I find it concerning, maybe for me, but I'm not sure.
Pedantichrist@reddit
Were the yellow dodecahedron not on the left, I would have assumed this were about regular vs irregular polygons.
As it is there, I am going with ‘all angles are equal’ or, I suppose, a mistake by the teacher.
Thandoscovia@reddit
Shapes on the left are regular with equal internal angles, shapes on the right are irregular. Add a pentagon to the left and whatever random shape you want on the right
NecessaryDonkey2495@reddit
The child is six years old, they wouldn't be expected to know that.
celaconacr@reddit
Except the cross has internal angles of 270 and 90 degrees.
SlickAstley_@reddit
Number 1
They are sorted randomly
Number 2
draws oval to group Hexagon and Triangle.. grouping is now "Regular shapes"
MrAxx@reddit
They have an increasing amount of sides going anti-clockwise. There is a hexagon in the right circle after the square so draw a hexagon on the left And there is an octagon in the left hand circle so draw an octagon after the hexagon
stuaxo@reddit
Anticlockwise by the number of sides.
AlternativeAd3652@reddit
Am I the only one who thought primary colours/secondary colours? I would draw a purple shape.
Dr-Dolittle-@reddit
Shapes on the left have multiple mirror pages of symmetry.
I don't this is the answer that a 6 year old would be expected to see.
I prefer the suggestion to draw a penis.
roddz@reddit
its symmetry. The left are all symmetrical shapes the right is not (the orange one is close but is right is smaller than its left) draw a square for the left and a blob for the right
EssexGuyUpNorth@reddit
In the right hand circle you need to draw a shape with 12 sides.
rkr87@reddit
It might be the angles thing, but given the cross having different angles it could be that all the items on the left are vertically symmetrical and those on the right aren't.
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