This doesn’t mean from the same sex. This can be from anyone they dated - so a gay woman dating a straight man then he beats her bc she doesn’t put out would go into this statistic
A lesbian woman might also be more likely to report sexual assault than a straight woman, for example. Men might also be more driven to assault lesbian women. Statistics are complicated.
Tell us more about the, ahem, apparently large enough to sway the study, group of gay women who date straight men. And why would they do that? Are they secretly the infamous Tinder girls just looking for a free dinner?
Life-time prevalence of IPV in LGB couples appeared to be higher than in heterosexual ones: 61.1% of bisexual women, 43.8% of lesbian women, 37.3% of bisexual men, and 26.0% of homosexual men experienced IPV during their life, while 5.0% of heterosexual women and 29.0% of heterosexual men experienced IPV.
Female on female abuse in prisons is never addressed in mainstream media, movies, or literature, despite being as prevalent as male on male abuse. Many women choose to remain silent about their experiences after serving their sentences due to shame. Society often downplays abuse between women, particularly in lesbian contexts, because it lacks a phallic element, but it is no less damaging. Accepting that a woman is capable of sexual abuse even on other women is seen as threat by feminist ideologies who seek to victimize the figure of the woman while perpetuating men as the only perpetrators of abuse.
Accepting that a woman is capable of sexual abuse even on other women is seen as threat by feminist ideologies who seek to victimize the figure of the woman while perpetuating men as the only perpetrators of abuse.
This is the stupidest claim I've read this week. Feminists are not doing what you say they are. Have you ever spoken to a feminist? Have you ever met a woman?
You had me until you injected your shitty rhetoric about feminism even though feminists do talk about this lol. Thats the only reason why I know of this stat already.
While the pattern of heterosexual couples having less violence is true... Their definition of intimate partner violence is, unsurprisingly, way too broad.
You won't even find it defined in their entire study... but it includes things like coercion into sex. So if you convince your wife to have sex when she doesn't feel like it, that is intimate partner violence.
35% of heterosexual women aren't experiencing violence from their husband.
These studies are notorious for intentionally broadening definitions beyond common sense in order to stoke panic and secure more funding.
It's even worse, these figures apply to past relationships. That 35% figure probably isn't only for current, but includes if your partner was abused in a prior relationship ever. That's the issue with OP's commonly quoted figures, they don't even apply in the way that an increasing quantity of anons have been led to interpret them in the past few years - that isn't number of current lesbian couples involved, but includes a significant portion of women who were abusive hetero relationships in the past, regardless of if they're now in a bi/lesbo relationship.
Not nearly as many as 35% of hetero relationships are that bad. Men aren't that bad.
Not nearly that larger percent of lesbian relationships are far bad. Women aren't that bad.
Once again, nothing ever happens and has not happened.
It's even less than it seems, these figures apply to past relationships. That 35% figure probably isn't only for current, but includes if your partner was abused in a prior relationship ever.
Yes, but keep in mind that our idea of past relationships is probably over-inflated. Heterosexual women have an average of only 7 sexual partners in their entire life. (By contrast, gay men have 67.)
The study doesn't give a full picture of the problem. You'd find that the more partners you have, the more likely you are to experience violence. Of course, the social scientists running the studies would never want to say that promiscuity has bad repercussions.
…Tbf I don’t really see male on male abuse being depicted much outside of maybe a father abusing a son.
I suspect the reason why there’s a higher portion of interpersonal violence between homosexuals is because of a higher possibility of domestic violence occurring when a homosexual comes out to someone they live with. Like all abuse, the biggest source of it usually comes from previous abuse and transgressions from it.
If that’s the case then it most likely makes the problem worse if you keep pretending that it’s something intrinsic to lesbian relations and there’s a psyop for covering it up.
If you care about preventing interpersonal abuse between queer couples, supporting all kinds of queer-targeted mental health organizations like the Trevor project is going to be one of the best ways to do that. And even if the theory is wrong, that money and effort can go into more resources to pinpoint the genuine cause of ipv in queer couples.
Yeah.. male prison rape being so predominant in pooculture that little boys in primary school are already joking about not dropping the soap. I was In post grad before I ever conceived a thought about women raping each other in prison
Anyways IPV was originally defined as intimate partner violence in the study and aforementioned statistics, not inter-personal violence which would be way too broad.
I don’t think he’s pretending anything by stating objective nih statistics, which not only spotlights the issue to the forefront- he even says not to minimize lesbian ipv as it’s not any less damaging.
All he’s saying is that despite popular programming, women are capable of violence, too. And by the statistics, the sample of women seemingly committed more IPV than the male sample during the time period studied. The study could be a true representation or possibly skewed by several unknown causes that require additional studies.
Anything drawn beyond that is your own subjective conclusions. My subjective conclusion is that the Trevor project is a joke and human nature includes violence. Further that maybe women feel more comfortable committing IPV since they know they are weak little girls who can’t inflict any real physical damage. Thus manipulation and coercion are included, too.
Alas, the study only covered what has happened with certain people over a certain time - not why or definitively true in any sense.
Imagine thinking gays and lesbians have special unique causes for being violent beyond being a shitty person. They’re just like the rest of us except they’re horny triggers are inverted.
Anyways we are wasting time and breath here… it’s an nih.gov resource and our Supreme Court justices can’t even identify what a woman is, so it’s just as likely every single straight, gay, lesbian, tri-queer participant sampled was born with a penis
The penguin barely mentions it, i dont think it was even directly implied. The penguin just shows she was abused in general, and isnt even relevant really since she went to an asylum.
Wordcels are the scourge of Reddit. People who take everything literally and quibble with rhetorical flourishes while completely missing the point of the post. When trying to convey ideas, being memorable is more important than being precise.
Seems to me that the interpretation of the linked study results is flawed. I did not see any parameters specifying if this IPV in people who identified as LGB occurred in a same sex relationship, just that it happened in their lifetime. Many lesbians in particular have often dated men before coming to terms with their sexual orientation. That is not to say that there is not IPV in LGB couples, just that the data collected here does not accurately reflect it.
Just watched the whole of the Australian TV show, Wentworth, a remake of Prisoner : Cellblock H(from the 70s/80s) and it was not shy about showing brutal female rape between the prisoners.
For anyone reading this, don't forget that interpersonal violence statistics only include those who spoke up. The actual numbers are likely to be much higher unfortunately
I will call your attention to the language of the post, which does not suggest that it is inside of the same-sex relationship these women experience the abuse. It is possible to be from parents or male partners.
I will call your attention to the language of the post, which does not suggest that it is inside of the same-sex relationship these women experience the abuse. It is possible to be from parents or male partners.
Men are taught not to abuse their partner. This lesson is hardly ever aimed at women, since they’re usually the far more diminutive partner in straight relationships.
Fewer alternatives. My dating pool is smaller so I’ll put up with more
Fewer lifelines. I might have a homophobic family that doesn’t want to talk to me about my relationship
People don’t take abuse as seriously when perpetrated by a woman. Lots of countries don’t even call it rape without a dick involved
2 women, each determined to get the last word in lol. A contradiction that ends in violence
Additional comment: Combining sexual abuse and physical abuse under a single statistic is kind of crazy and misleading
Most of these apply to men in heterosexual relationships too. Men are being abused at far greater rates than reported. Often the woman is an abuser pretending to be a victim.
The biggest lie of feminism is pretending violence is a gendered issue.
okay I'm all for shitting on feminism because it feels good and whatnot but let's be rational, reasonable and let's call a spade a spade.
Most murderers are male. Most violent rapists are men.
And don't give me the argument that most murder victims are male. That's still the ''fault'' of men, given that these murders are perpetuated by other men.
Are there other ''injustices'' against males? Sure. But violence is unequivocally a MOSTLY male thing.
Okay but DOMESTIC violence like we’re talking about here is pretty even. I know they just said “violence” but from context I’m 99% sure they weren’t talking about all violence
“2 women, each determined to get the last word in”
Imagine giving your girl the same attitude you get from her when she’s on her period.
Now, imagine two girls synced up. Both expecting the other to get a box of chocolates, tampons, and roses. Only to come home and find the other in a crabby mood. Knowing how some women behave, I’m surprised the domestic abuse statistic isn’t higher.
Also keep in mind that after a certain period of time of living together females somehow sync their periods as you might have heard from your friends this is a common phenomenon and is responsible for most of the disagreements and frictions between friends or partners in that case
It's just easier to have good relations with someone if you don't have to deal with their shit everyday. And especially easier if you and the other person no longer have to live with each other during your monthly changes in hormone levels and monthly annoying pain that happen at the same time.
If I got sore stomach I usually just lay in bed and hope to die. If I got a sore tooth however, it doesn't exactly cause me to be an asshole, but I definitely get annoyed easier and faster. What's your point?
No one would accept “sorry my tooth really hurts” as a valid excuse for being an asshole, the same with periods, unless you just don’t understand how women work. You can’t blame a bodily function for being unable to control your emotions. It’s just sexism used by both genders to validate their own hatred or shitty behaviour.
You don't understand how human relations and emotions work. No one accepts it as a valid excuse. Because of course it's not a valid excuse. When you are dealing with people in public you don't let something like this change your behavior. But things are different when you are living with each other. Emotions work differently, you control yourself differently.
It's not sexism. It's being a human. Something hurts you and you can't do anything about it, you get annoyed. On top of that someone does something that annoys you even more. That results in you being annoyed twice as much. You shouldn't be an asshole because of that. Unfortunately, sometimes emotions just take over and you become an asshole, especially when you are with people that you feel comfortable with.
Maybe you are different, maybe you control yourself perfectly all the time, maybe you don't feel emotions. Congratulations on being this great then, unfortunately most of the people are not like that. Have a good night Mr Perfect, I won't waste any more time on this pointless discussion
Again, you’re using your pain to excuse your own (and I assume your partners) shitty behaviour, there’s 1000s of people with conditions worse than a period that don’t take it out on the people they live with. I think this comes back to the silly “all couples argue” stereotype.
This might shock you but most women actually don’t become assholes on their period. I didn’t realise people got to adulthood and unironically still thought this lmao.
Next time my wife is PMSing I'll send her to your house for a week. Just be sure to not ask questions but also know what to do but also clean the house but also be away at work but also be silent but also talk to her about her day.
I've definitely seen it. Being a little withdrawn because you're in pain is understandable, but some women say and do awful shit and blame it on their period. The fact that you've never seen this makes me think you live under a rock.
That being said, regardless of what they say, it's not because of their period. The root cause is a lack of control over their emotions and a lack of accountability.
So if you read the study it's actually violence mostly from male partners (lesbians before coming out are also included). The violence is mostly coming from the male partners.
sometimes? i mean i cant say thats the case for everyone who supports the group. the last bit is more of a belief of my own, so my apologies for shoehorning it in like a fact.
i feel theres probably more nuance than bring "born gay" but its probably more common than abuse affecting romantic attraction, just my hypothesis though.
Furthermore, these bi women who supposedly have been abused out of straighthood have spent less time with men than straight women, you would expect straight women to experience more if all things were equal.
But the 61% is bi women, who probably have the largest dating pool of anyone (since straight men like bi women a lot more than straight women like bi men).
Your "additional comment" is my main focus here. Intimate partner violence and sexual assault are different categories. It's absurd to draw a parallel between how many women have been SAd by men vs how many lesbians been SAd and/or battered by women they were in a relationship with.
5 combined with 1 are the kickers here. Most abuse is reciprocal and women aren't taught to deescalate like men are, so women can get into an abuse escalation spiral that neither is willing to pump the brakes on
This is a complete guess but end up in an abusive relationship with men> you're likely to repeat it if you don't change something. Some people learn, others blame it on something that isn't actually a factor (race, hair color, hobby etc). Including gender. The thought that a woman would be safer can be a logical conclusion considering our societal norms, and an attractive option if you're bi. But toxic women who date women are as real as toxic men who date women.
So instead of learning the real signs they experience abuse after an abuse, which breaks trust more, leading to a higher likelihood of doing it again. These stats also say "in their lifetime" so it happening with a man once and then with a women isnt a high bar. Just a theory.
In my personal experience, women who are Bi that fall for a 'bad boy' jump off a cliff when it comes to a toxically masculine woman. Ive never seen people head dive into trauma so fast. I have also never seen toxic masculinity reach such heights outside of lesbian women aside from a few bikers/drug dealers I've met. When they are toxic holly shit its almost impressive. Again, personal observation.
Because we experience sexual violence from men just like our straight sisters do, because men who sexually abuse women see our lack of attraction towards them as a challenge and not a turn-off, and because growing up in a systemically homophobic patriarchy makes many lesbians push themselves into relationships with men where they don't feel safe or comfortable because we are taught that our boundaries and bodily autonomy doesn't matter, whether we actually experience genuine attraction to them or not, because we're taught that men are sexually uncontrollable always-horny always-consenting conquerors that makes all women as uncomfortable as us.
I will not be taking constructive criticism. Thank you for your time.
I mean the statistics for bi women doesn't specify if the violence is only perpetrated by other women - just "intimate partners", which includes men. So maybe 61% because they can be abused by, well, everybody!
Turns out the reason girls don’t abuse men isn’t because it’s wrong but because they simply can’t. And as shown here they will be just as abusive if not more abusive than men when given the chance
They can abuse men and they do. You are making yourself a part of the problem, by denying the possibility that a woman can abuse a man. This is exactly what happens to men who are abused. They are laughed out of the police station. Most don’t even dare to go and report it. There are absolutely no organisations that may help those men.
I meant in comparison to men women don't abuse men in relationships nearly as often. I know some girls do abuse guys but it's just not as common, I think
My claim is that women would abuse guys as much if they could as evidenced by anons link but that just can't because guys are bigger and stronger, it's not easy for a girl to abuse them most of the time
It’s not harder for them, because in our culture (western) it’s taboo to use violence against women. So they are most often not met with a response. Men usually just stand and take it. You can just read up on the subject, you know.
you can literally google info about this, women in HETERO relationships are more likely to be abused by men. I know I said that women don't abuse men but I didn't think you'd all take what I said so fucking literally. I know girls abuse guys sometimes, I just didn't think I'd need to spell out for you or that you'd get so hung up on my phrasing
Now you’re just lying. You can’t just say you said something else than you did. It’s just a couple of comments above, anyone can see what you said. You said that women don’t abuse men as often than men abuse women. And I responded to that. Just could just admit you had no sources. But you chose to make a clown of yourself by lying about what you wrote a couple of comment above. Shame on you. I’m not going to discuss it further with you.
Amazing how you talked out of your ass for an eternity and to the very last end you refuse to provide a single source for your claims only to top it all off with a "Do your own research lol"
Wrong. Feminists keep pulling that out of their asses to save face but according to the CDC 43.8% of lesbians reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. And out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male but the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators (naturally to artificially increase the number of "bad men" in the stats). 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 89.5% reporting at least one perpetrator being male. Again, no distinction between male and male and female.
They spend all day doing CNC in their bdsm dungeon and the one time they don't feel like it and their partner doesn't get the memo they write an article
Because it includes if the lesbian or bisexual woman was in a relationship with a man in the past. Increased risk of violence when coming out. It is very explicitly not because women are more likely to abuse.
While abuse happens between same sex relationships, that study includes all past relationships, including when they were with men, so its skewed. If they had a lesbian relationship exclusive study I'm sure it still happens, but is it higher?? Not sure.
Experienced rape from a woman? Because a bisexual woman is going to be dating men, and a lesbian woman may also date men (at least early in life) and also could be raped outside of a relationship. We need more information for this "Ackshually" to count.
That being said, it doesn't change the fact that gay male relationships have the lowest reported incidence of IPV. Assuming the drop isn't just because of underreporting because men are less likely to come forward
The statistic is for IVP during their lifetime, not for the relationship that they are currently in and not with partners that align with their sexuality...
Sorry kiddo, that's a fairy tale to tell yourself but there are numerous studies which show indications that homosexual relationships have hire rates of IPV. Potential causes are the higher rates of alcohol and substance abuse, societal stressors, and life course. Of particular note, bisexuals have the highest incident rate of IPV.
All of these papers makes it clear they are studying the relationships of SS couples, not just if they've ever experienced it in their lifetime.
Literally that last study says it excluded folks who only reported same sex partners. Ffs. Lol did you understand it or just read the words out loud and say, yeah that's right.
I don’t know that this is a sufficient answer in that the question probably implies about rape of an unknown woman, like on the street. The answer is about rape of a known woman
A woman walking down the street, getting assaulted and raped by a complete stranger, is a situation that accounts for a small minority of sexual assaults.
The majority of sexual assaults occur between two people who know each other.
I don't know about lot about the statistics. So don't trust me know this. But in highschool, we were taught that 1-3 women will experience domestic rape/abuse. I mean if this is correct, that means 2-3 women in lesbian relationships experience domestic rape. Which is twice the amount. Once again, what I learnt in High School years ago.
Another interesting thing that should be studied is male reactions to potential partners if they (the male) has been abused or has an abuser in their family.
Just personal experience, but it seems like men who have at all felt anything similar to abuse of women have a higher empathy, and are far less aggressive.
Testosterone is a funny drug. It makes you wild and do dumb shit, there's a reason why 99% of videos where people do dumb shit the subject is a guy. At the same time, it numbs your emotions and thats part of the reason alexithymia is more common in men.
Estrogen makes you feel more emotional and a lot of women run into mental health issues when they have heightened estrogen from pregnancy and whatnot.
>The statement oversimplifies the effects of testosterone and estrogen. Testosterone doesn’t inherently make men do reckless things, and its relationship with behavior is more complex. Alexithymia in men is likely influenced by cultural factors, not just testosterone. Estrogen can influence mood, but it doesn't automatically make women overly emotional. Hormonal effects on mental health are nuanced and not as straightforward as implied.
They can't and they do not. Unlike man, woman won't be charged with sexual assault if she slaps another girl's ass, they can just waive it off as "girls being silly and playful".
But if anon lightly touches woman's thigh while passing through, he would get absolute shit beat out of him.
Just go to a lesbian club or bar and you’ll see how bad it is. Get touched/groped without consent and when you call her out on it, she just says “it’s ok, we’re both girls, it’s lot like I’m a guy”.
Explain whyt then please.
Don't just say "it's wrong" and not elaborate. Males ypu sound like you don't knkw what you're talking about( I hate when they do that in movies🤣)
The study never specifies if the offending party in the DV was male or female. Some of the lesbians were beaten by a man in a previous relationship as that would count as experiencing DV as a lesbian just as much as if it was a woman committing the DV
Literally just saw study that explicitly excluded folks who only reported same sex partners... Like none of these chuds read or understand the articles they post.
It doesn't matter though, them learning they didn't understand the study will mean nothing to them. It's all poc hoc justifications for their (soy be upon me) bigotry
Here's another question, since the study was not worried about creating bigotted stereotypes based on inborn traits, what's the skin color and religion of most of those men who are rapists?
Pale_Barracuda7042@reddit
This doesn’t mean from the same sex. This can be from anyone they dated - so a gay woman dating a straight man then he beats her bc she doesn’t put out would go into this statistic
Heeeec@reddit
3/10 bait, too obvious
LimpMinded@reddit
Cope
Pale_Barracuda7042@reddit
Tf do I care? Just pointing out how the stats work. I’m not a foid lol
idiot206@reddit
Classic case of correlation ≠ causation.
A lesbian woman might also be more likely to report sexual assault than a straight woman, for example. Men might also be more driven to assault lesbian women. Statistics are complicated.
Pale_Barracuda7042@reddit
Yes. That’s what I’m saying, why did you downvote me
idiot206@reddit
I upvoted you lol
Pale_Barracuda7042@reddit
Because I’m Chinese
chiefoogabooga@reddit
You're really grasping at straws with this cope.
Tell us more about the, ahem, apparently large enough to sway the study, group of gay women who date straight men. And why would they do that? Are they secretly the infamous Tinder girls just looking for a free dinner?
Sneed-Feed-and-Seed@reddit (OP)
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/ienced%20IPV.
Female on female abuse in prisons is never addressed in mainstream media, movies, or literature, despite being as prevalent as male on male abuse. Many women choose to remain silent about their experiences after serving their sentences due to shame. Society often downplays abuse between women, particularly in lesbian contexts, because it lacks a phallic element, but it is no less damaging. Accepting that a woman is capable of sexual abuse even on other women is seen as threat by feminist ideologies who seek to victimize the figure of the woman while perpetuating men as the only perpetrators of abuse.
LCDRformat@reddit
This is the stupidest claim I've read this week. Feminists are not doing what you say they are. Have you ever spoken to a feminist? Have you ever met a woman?
__redruM@reddit
Wait, so homosexual men (26%) are safer than heterosexual men (29%)? So women are more violent?
GasterIHardlyKnowHer@reddit
Yes unironically
__redruM@reddit
No, no, no, 29%, these men aren’t beating themselves.
SINGULARITY1312@reddit
You had me until you injected your shitty rhetoric about feminism even though feminists do talk about this lol. Thats the only reason why I know of this stat already.
BarrelStrawberry@reddit
While the pattern of heterosexual couples having less violence is true... Their definition of intimate partner violence is, unsurprisingly, way too broad.
You won't even find it defined in their entire study... but it includes things like coercion into sex. So if you convince your wife to have sex when she doesn't feel like it, that is intimate partner violence.
35% of heterosexual women aren't experiencing violence from their husband.
These studies are notorious for intentionally broadening definitions beyond common sense in order to stoke panic and secure more funding.
oeoao@reddit
Liar.
According to your own source it's you who fabricate. "One in five women will be the victim of attempted or completed sexual assault"
Incel logics.
Luwuci-SP@reddit
It's even worse, these figures apply to past relationships. That 35% figure probably isn't only for current, but includes if your partner was abused in a prior relationship ever. That's the issue with OP's commonly quoted figures, they don't even apply in the way that an increasing quantity of anons have been led to interpret them in the past few years - that isn't number of current lesbian couples involved, but includes a significant portion of women who were abusive hetero relationships in the past, regardless of if they're now in a bi/lesbo relationship.
Not nearly as many as 35% of hetero relationships are that bad. Men aren't that bad.
Not nearly that larger percent of lesbian relationships are far bad. Women aren't that bad.
Once again, nothing ever happens and has not happened.
BarrelStrawberry@reddit
Yes, but keep in mind that our idea of past relationships is probably over-inflated. Heterosexual women have an average of only 7 sexual partners in their entire life. (By contrast, gay men have 67.)
The study doesn't give a full picture of the problem. You'd find that the more partners you have, the more likely you are to experience violence. Of course, the social scientists running the studies would never want to say that promiscuity has bad repercussions.
mrstorydude@reddit
…Tbf I don’t really see male on male abuse being depicted much outside of maybe a father abusing a son.
I suspect the reason why there’s a higher portion of interpersonal violence between homosexuals is because of a higher possibility of domestic violence occurring when a homosexual comes out to someone they live with. Like all abuse, the biggest source of it usually comes from previous abuse and transgressions from it.
If that’s the case then it most likely makes the problem worse if you keep pretending that it’s something intrinsic to lesbian relations and there’s a psyop for covering it up.
If you care about preventing interpersonal abuse between queer couples, supporting all kinds of queer-targeted mental health organizations like the Trevor project is going to be one of the best ways to do that. And even if the theory is wrong, that money and effort can go into more resources to pinpoint the genuine cause of ipv in queer couples.
satisfuckery@reddit
Yeah.. male prison rape being so predominant in pooculture that little boys in primary school are already joking about not dropping the soap. I was In post grad before I ever conceived a thought about women raping each other in prison
Anyways IPV was originally defined as intimate partner violence in the study and aforementioned statistics, not inter-personal violence which would be way too broad.
I don’t think he’s pretending anything by stating objective nih statistics, which not only spotlights the issue to the forefront- he even says not to minimize lesbian ipv as it’s not any less damaging.
All he’s saying is that despite popular programming, women are capable of violence, too. And by the statistics, the sample of women seemingly committed more IPV than the male sample during the time period studied. The study could be a true representation or possibly skewed by several unknown causes that require additional studies.
Anything drawn beyond that is your own subjective conclusions. My subjective conclusion is that the Trevor project is a joke and human nature includes violence. Further that maybe women feel more comfortable committing IPV since they know they are weak little girls who can’t inflict any real physical damage. Thus manipulation and coercion are included, too.
Alas, the study only covered what has happened with certain people over a certain time - not why or definitively true in any sense. Imagine thinking gays and lesbians have special unique causes for being violent beyond being a shitty person. They’re just like the rest of us except they’re horny triggers are inverted.
Anyways we are wasting time and breath here… it’s an nih.gov resource and our Supreme Court justices can’t even identify what a woman is, so it’s just as likely every single straight, gay, lesbian, tri-queer participant sampled was born with a penis
Lobster_Zaddy@reddit
Penguin (2024) and Orange is the New Black (2013) are two notable exceptions that address this issue. Not disagreeing with your overall point though
ihatemalkoun@reddit
The penguin barely mentions it, i dont think it was even directly implied. The penguin just shows she was abused in general, and isnt even relevant really since she went to an asylum.
Although asylums dont look like that
cheapbeerwarrio@reddit
But they do if you get committed for over a year in long term state care lol
ImComfortableDoug@reddit
Nope
ttwixx@reddit
They did say “never addressed” and it was a significant part of their overall point.
DarthHead43@reddit
it was hyperbole
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
Reddit autists don’t get that. People already use /s for sarcasm, maybe we should use /h for hyperbole. Oh, and /s.
ccznen@reddit
Wordcels are the scourge of Reddit. People who take everything literally and quibble with rhetorical flourishes while completely missing the point of the post. When trying to convey ideas, being memorable is more important than being precise.
Lobster_Zaddy@reddit
In that case, I do disagree with their overall point.
PlatinumSif@reddit
Personally OitNB glorified it in my opinion.
kallen8277@reddit
Idk what Penguin is, but OitNB is labeled as fiction so people don't take it seriously.
kanny_jiller@reddit
Penguin is capeshit and fiction
HanzJWermhat@reddit
Kino-toligist spotted.
Lobster_Zaddy@reddit
By the way, what is your username a reference to?
ZombieSurvivor365@reddit
Simpson gag. “Sneeds feed and seed, formerly chucks” cuz then it would’ve been “Chucks fuck and suck”
havoc1428@reddit
I prefer "Chucks Fuck and Suck, subsequently Sneeds"
DrDMango@reddit
Woah, that’s clever.
Many_SuchCases@reddit
To this movie called lurk moar.
fig_art@reddit
truly sad, abuse is abuse regardless of who the perpetrator and victim are.
SternSpoon@reddit
Seems to me that the interpretation of the linked study results is flawed. I did not see any parameters specifying if this IPV in people who identified as LGB occurred in a same sex relationship, just that it happened in their lifetime. Many lesbians in particular have often dated men before coming to terms with their sexual orientation. That is not to say that there is not IPV in LGB couples, just that the data collected here does not accurately reflect it.
SharkMilk44@reddit
Damn, I would have thought it was the other way around.
GodlessPerson@reddit
That article has been corrected. It's 35%.
SharkMilk44@reddit
That doesn't make it better.
GodlessPerson@reddit
I never said it did.
Boiled_Ham@reddit
Just watched the whole of the Australian TV show, Wentworth, a remake of Prisoner : Cellblock H(from the 70s/80s) and it was not shy about showing brutal female rape between the prisoners.
Ice_Swallow4u@reddit
Did they cut themselves "scissoring?"
Nelstech@reddit
I’ll never under how the victimization of the female gender helps the feminist cause honestly even though it’s pushed so much
Watchespornthrowaway@reddit
Because they still need male buy in to push their agenda. They need to weaponize pity.
Appropriate_Ad4818@reddit
I get a 404 on that link
Sneed-Feed-and-Seed@reddit (OP)
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6659498/
3string@reddit
For anyone reading this, don't forget that interpersonal violence statistics only include those who spoke up. The actual numbers are likely to be much higher unfortunately
LCDRformat@reddit
I will call your attention to the language of the post, which does not suggest that it is inside of the same-sex relationship these women experience the abuse. It is possible to be from parents or male partners.
thotpatrolactual@reddit
61% is insane. How the hell is it that high?
LCDRformat@reddit
I will call your attention to the language of the post, which does not suggest that it is inside of the same-sex relationship these women experience the abuse. It is possible to be from parents or male partners.
Stunning-Drawer-4288@reddit
Men are taught not to abuse their partner. This lesson is hardly ever aimed at women, since they’re usually the far more diminutive partner in straight relationships.
Fewer alternatives. My dating pool is smaller so I’ll put up with more
Fewer lifelines. I might have a homophobic family that doesn’t want to talk to me about my relationship
People don’t take abuse as seriously when perpetrated by a woman. Lots of countries don’t even call it rape without a dick involved
2 women, each determined to get the last word in lol. A contradiction that ends in violence
Additional comment: Combining sexual abuse and physical abuse under a single statistic is kind of crazy and misleading
TessaigaVI@reddit
Sounds like all excuses to justify abusers.
Stunning-Drawer-4288@reddit
Was it a conscious decision to interpret my answer in the worst possible way?
SugerizeMe@reddit
Most of these apply to men in heterosexual relationships too. Men are being abused at far greater rates than reported. Often the woman is an abuser pretending to be a victim.
The biggest lie of feminism is pretending violence is a gendered issue.
Putrid-Long-1930@reddit
okay I'm all for shitting on feminism because it feels good and whatnot but let's be rational, reasonable and let's call a spade a spade.
Most murderers are male. Most violent rapists are men.
And don't give me the argument that most murder victims are male. That's still the ''fault'' of men, given that these murders are perpetuated by other men.
Are there other ''injustices'' against males? Sure. But violence is unequivocally a MOSTLY male thing.
cashmonet69@reddit
Okay but DOMESTIC violence like we’re talking about here is pretty even. I know they just said “violence” but from context I’m 99% sure they weren’t talking about all violence
PleiadesMechworks@reddit
Nonreciprocal DV is majority women perps.
ZombieSurvivor365@reddit
Imagine giving your girl the same attitude you get from her when she’s on her period.
Now, imagine two girls synced up. Both expecting the other to get a box of chocolates, tampons, and roses. Only to come home and find the other in a crabby mood. Knowing how some women behave, I’m surprised the domestic abuse statistic isn’t higher.
Rainbow_Potato_911@reddit
Also keep in mind that after a certain period of time of living together females somehow sync their periods as you might have heard from your friends this is a common phenomenon and is responsible for most of the disagreements and frictions between friends or partners in that case
Pingushagger@reddit
Why hasn’t this phenomenon caused every household with multiple women to hate each other?
letsgoiowa@reddit
It totally does lmao
Pingushagger@reddit
Every sister hates each other? Every daughter hate their mother? Use your head for a second
phepooo@reddit
Of course not every, but many do. Also a lot of times mother-daughter and sister-sister relations improve after one of them moves out.
Pingushagger@reddit
When this happens to men’s relationships is it just a coincidence?
phepooo@reddit
So applying your previous comments logic, you are now saying that in every household every man hates each other, right?
No, it's not just a coincidence. But one of the reasons that relationships improve is not the same for both men and women.
Pingushagger@reddit
No, I don’t think bodily functions makes you hate anyone. I don’t take medical science from sitcoms.
Woman moves out and no longer hates their mother: periods have clearly unsynced
Man moves out and no longer hates their father: their dicks have untangled?
phepooo@reddit
It's just easier to have good relations with someone if you don't have to deal with their shit everyday. And especially easier if you and the other person no longer have to live with each other during your monthly changes in hormone levels and monthly annoying pain that happen at the same time.
Pingushagger@reddit
If you get a sore stomach, does it cause you to be an asshole?
phepooo@reddit
If I got sore stomach I usually just lay in bed and hope to die. If I got a sore tooth however, it doesn't exactly cause me to be an asshole, but I definitely get annoyed easier and faster. What's your point?
Pingushagger@reddit
No one would accept “sorry my tooth really hurts” as a valid excuse for being an asshole, the same with periods, unless you just don’t understand how women work. You can’t blame a bodily function for being unable to control your emotions. It’s just sexism used by both genders to validate their own hatred or shitty behaviour.
phepooo@reddit
You don't understand how human relations and emotions work. No one accepts it as a valid excuse. Because of course it's not a valid excuse. When you are dealing with people in public you don't let something like this change your behavior. But things are different when you are living with each other. Emotions work differently, you control yourself differently.
It's not sexism. It's being a human. Something hurts you and you can't do anything about it, you get annoyed. On top of that someone does something that annoys you even more. That results in you being annoyed twice as much. You shouldn't be an asshole because of that. Unfortunately, sometimes emotions just take over and you become an asshole, especially when you are with people that you feel comfortable with.
Maybe you are different, maybe you control yourself perfectly all the time, maybe you don't feel emotions. Congratulations on being this great then, unfortunately most of the people are not like that. Have a good night Mr Perfect, I won't waste any more time on this pointless discussion
Pingushagger@reddit
Again, you’re using your pain to excuse your own (and I assume your partners) shitty behaviour, there’s 1000s of people with conditions worse than a period that don’t take it out on the people they live with. I think this comes back to the silly “all couples argue” stereotype.
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Have you ever seen a teenage girl? Or siblings? Yes they all hate each other.
In the case of mothers they’re usually responsible enough to not start a fight, but not always.
Pingushagger@reddit
Must be their vaginas right? Hilarious
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Objective observation.
Women tend to be crabby during their periods.
Second objective observation.
Most siblings fight. A lot. All the time.
Pingushagger@reddit
Objective observation: you don’t interact with many women
Mr_Canard@reddit
Are you implying they don't?
Pingushagger@reddit
Yes. You think every girl just has some innate hate for their siblings and mother until they leave home?
CrispBit@reddit
Uhh... I have something to tell you
SatanVapesOn666W@reddit
This has largely been proven false.
PineappleFrittering@reddit
That is complete nonsense btw.
softhack@reddit
My mom and my sister regularly get into arguments. My dad even tells them to quit talking to each other when this happens.
lilmickeyLSD69420@reddit
Wait is that even possible
StopCallinMePastries@reddit
It's perfectly normal
DrDMango@reddit
Yeah!
Blibbobletto@reddit
This kinda reads like your entire knowledge of women comes from sitcoms.
ZombieSurvivor365@reddit
I don’t watch sitcoms. My knowledge of women comes from women.
Pingushagger@reddit
This might shock you but most women actually don’t become assholes on their period. I didn’t realise people got to adulthood and unironically still thought this lmao.
magnoliasmanor@reddit
Next time my wife is PMSing I'll send her to your house for a week. Just be sure to not ask questions but also know what to do but also clean the house but also be away at work but also be silent but also talk to her about her day.
Good luck.
Yoyoitsmedante@reddit
Well they constantly use it as an excuse when their pissy
Pingushagger@reddit
Lmao no son.
CommieEnder@reddit
I've definitely seen it. Being a little withdrawn because you're in pain is understandable, but some women say and do awful shit and blame it on their period. The fact that you've never seen this makes me think you live under a rock.
That being said, regardless of what they say, it's not because of their period. The root cause is a lack of control over their emotions and a lack of accountability.
ProtoLibturd@reddit
Ummm akshually they do. And they dont apologise for it. Thats precisely why its a pancultural stereotype MLady
Pingushagger@reddit
Who hurt you?
ProtoLibturd@reddit
Society at large. Im opressed.
HippoRun23@reddit
That sounds like a fucking nightmare and I’d rope up in that world.
MyPenisIsWeeping@reddit
So if you read the study it's actually violence mostly from male partners (lesbians before coming out are also included). The violence is mostly coming from the male partners.
------------5@reddit
Then how come it is significantly higher than in straight women? They are supposedly both perpetrated by the same group after all
MyPenisIsWeeping@reddit
Straight women are less likely to leave their male partner, risking violence.
ihatedyouall@reddit
lower sample size when looking at exclusively lesbian women, abuse also affects your attraction
Catmask102@reddit
Isn't the whole rainbow shtick that they were born this way?
ihatedyouall@reddit
sometimes? i mean i cant say thats the case for everyone who supports the group. the last bit is more of a belief of my own, so my apologies for shoehorning it in like a fact.
i feel theres probably more nuance than bring "born gay" but its probably more common than abuse affecting romantic attraction, just my hypothesis though.
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
Lower sample size cannot explain this.
Furthermore, these bi women who supposedly have been abused out of straighthood have spent less time with men than straight women, you would expect straight women to experience more if all things were equal.
kkjdroid@reddit
But the 61% is bi women, who probably have the largest dating pool of anyone (since straight men like bi women a lot more than straight women like bi men).
-blundertaker-@reddit
Your "additional comment" is my main focus here. Intimate partner violence and sexual assault are different categories. It's absurd to draw a parallel between how many women have been SAd by men vs how many lesbians been SAd and/or battered by women they were in a relationship with.
Firlite@reddit
5 combined with 1 are the kickers here. Most abuse is reciprocal and women aren't taught to deescalate like men are, so women can get into an abuse escalation spiral that neither is willing to pump the brakes on
Ok_Surprise_1627@reddit
looks at british
CommieEnder@reddit
The UK should be a rape free paradise, given their complete lack of testicles
Balthazar3000@reddit
You're not supposed to mention the combining of abuse types.
Deevys@reddit
Bc there’s men involved 💫
keeleon@reddit
Lesbian cops?
2peg2city@reddit
I know 3 women who were abused by men (well mote but i am talking about these 3) two are still lesbians, one it bisexual.
Some women deal with abuse by dating other women, that's going to be a component here
EquivalentSnap@reddit
Because it’s fake “there was an error. The life-time prevalence of IPV in heterosexual women was incorrectly provided.”
TalkingFishh@reddit
Dawg, it says the article was updated, and if that's true, only 5% of heterosexual women experience IPV, meaning it's even worse. 💀
It's either that or the version of Paragraph 3 in that link is the corrected one, meaning the 4Chan posters numbers are correct.
Many_SuchCases@reddit
Oh that's easy, it's because [user was banned for this post]
endelifugl@reddit
Oh yeah, surely there's an easy explanation for this, just like with all other forms of abuse
ThalionRaw@reddit
it's because my lawyer has advised me not to continue writing this reply
Coronabandito@reddit
How dare you pull data from unbiased accredited sources. In the cities pages there is 1 male name making your argument invalid.
kg160z@reddit
This is a complete guess but end up in an abusive relationship with men> you're likely to repeat it if you don't change something. Some people learn, others blame it on something that isn't actually a factor (race, hair color, hobby etc). Including gender. The thought that a woman would be safer can be a logical conclusion considering our societal norms, and an attractive option if you're bi. But toxic women who date women are as real as toxic men who date women.
So instead of learning the real signs they experience abuse after an abuse, which breaks trust more, leading to a higher likelihood of doing it again. These stats also say "in their lifetime" so it happening with a man once and then with a women isnt a high bar. Just a theory.
In my personal experience, women who are Bi that fall for a 'bad boy' jump off a cliff when it comes to a toxically masculine woman. Ive never seen people head dive into trauma so fast. I have also never seen toxic masculinity reach such heights outside of lesbian women aside from a few bikers/drug dealers I've met. When they are toxic holly shit its almost impressive. Again, personal observation.
hateful_virago@reddit
Because we experience sexual violence from men just like our straight sisters do, because men who sexually abuse women see our lack of attraction towards them as a challenge and not a turn-off, and because growing up in a systemically homophobic patriarchy makes many lesbians push themselves into relationships with men where they don't feel safe or comfortable because we are taught that our boundaries and bodily autonomy doesn't matter, whether we actually experience genuine attraction to them or not, because we're taught that men are sexually uncontrollable always-horny always-consenting conquerors that makes all women as uncomfortable as us.
I will not be taking constructive criticism. Thank you for your time.
vulcanicsand@reddit
I mean the statistics for bi women doesn't specify if the violence is only perpetrated by other women - just "intimate partners", which includes men. So maybe 61% because they can be abused by, well, everybody!
Saintsmythe@reddit
Turns out the reason girls don’t abuse men isn’t because it’s wrong but because they simply can’t. And as shown here they will be just as abusive if not more abusive than men when given the chance
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
They can abuse men and they do. You are making yourself a part of the problem, by denying the possibility that a woman can abuse a man. This is exactly what happens to men who are abused. They are laughed out of the police station. Most don’t even dare to go and report it. There are absolutely no organisations that may help those men.
Saintsmythe@reddit
I meant in comparison to men women don't abuse men in relationships nearly as often. I know some girls do abuse guys but it's just not as common, I think
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
Do you have the data to back up your claim or are you just pulling stuff out of your arse? How do you know what you claim?
Saintsmythe@reddit
do you have any sources for your claims? a source? source? do you have a source? NO you cannot make inferences based on deduction
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
You just claim that men abuse women more often than the other way around. What do you base that claim on? It’s a legitimate question.
Saintsmythe@reddit
My claim is that women would abuse guys as much if they could as evidenced by anons link but that just can't because guys are bigger and stronger, it's not easy for a girl to abuse them most of the time
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
It’s not harder for them, because in our culture (western) it’s taboo to use violence against women. So they are most often not met with a response. Men usually just stand and take it. You can just read up on the subject, you know.
Saintsmythe@reddit
you can literally google info about this, women in HETERO relationships are more likely to be abused by men. I know I said that women don't abuse men but I didn't think you'd all take what I said so fucking literally. I know girls abuse guys sometimes, I just didn't think I'd need to spell out for you or that you'd get so hung up on my phrasing
JasonBobsleigh@reddit
Now you’re just lying. You can’t just say you said something else than you did. It’s just a couple of comments above, anyone can see what you said. You said that women don’t abuse men as often than men abuse women. And I responded to that. Just could just admit you had no sources. But you chose to make a clown of yourself by lying about what you wrote a couple of comment above. Shame on you. I’m not going to discuss it further with you.
Saintsmythe@reddit
google "how often do men abuse women vs women abusing men"
CordobezEverdeen@reddit
Amazing how you talked out of your ass for an eternity and to the very last end you refuse to provide a single source for your claims only to top it all off with a "Do your own research lol"
xDDDD
DarthVeigar_@reddit
Over 70% of nonreciprocal domestic violence is initiated by women.
MyPenisIsWeeping@reddit
This is innaccurate, the violence mostly comes from male partners (lesbians date men before they realize they're lesbians)
GodlessPerson@reddit
Wrong. Feminists keep pulling that out of their asses to save face but according to the CDC 43.8% of lesbians reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. And out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male but the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators (naturally to artificially increase the number of "bad men" in the stats). 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 89.5% reporting at least one perpetrator being male. Again, no distinction between male and male and female.
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/12362/cdc_12362_DS1.pdf
WOMMART-IS-RASIS@reddit
there's a cause and effect going on here
DefinitelyNotPine@reddit
They spend all day doing CNC in their bdsm dungeon and the one time they don't feel like it and their partner doesn't get the memo they write an article
MyPenisIsWeeping@reddit
Because it includes if the lesbian or bisexual woman was in a relationship with a man in the past. Increased risk of violence when coming out. It is very explicitly not because women are more likely to abuse.
tuigger@reddit
Maybe they turned gay because a man beat them.
HauseClown@reddit
Bitches be crazy.
SunderedValley@reddit
No concept of boundaries or consequences. Nor willingness to talk it out.
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Nathan_hale53@reddit
While abuse happens between same sex relationships, that study includes all past relationships, including when they were with men, so its skewed. If they had a lesbian relationship exclusive study I'm sure it still happens, but is it higher?? Not sure.
balls_deep_space@reddit
Ding ding ding
JackC747@reddit
Experienced rape from a woman? Because a bisexual woman is going to be dating men, and a lesbian woman may also date men (at least early in life) and also could be raped outside of a relationship. We need more information for this "Ackshually" to count.
That being said, it doesn't change the fact that gay male relationships have the lowest reported incidence of IPV. Assuming the drop isn't just because of underreporting because men are less likely to come forward
Devils-Proof@reddit
This needs to be at the top of this post istg
balls_deep_space@reddit
Yeah but we could just say “women bad ☕️ “
MyPenisIsWeeping@reddit
Hi, I have actually read this study and you are correct, it's mostly IPV from male partners.
DiCePWNeD@reddit
Wow what a nothing burger
inventingnothing@reddit
Yup highest rates of domestic abuse are lesbian relationships. Lowest rates are the gays.
balls_deep_space@reddit
This statistic is misleading, for lesbians it counts abuse they faced from previous straight relationships
Pandainthecircus@reddit
The statistic is for IVP during their lifetime, not for the relationship that they are currently in and not with partners that align with their sexuality...
inventingnothing@reddit
Sorry kiddo, that's a fairy tale to tell yourself but there are numerous studies which show indications that homosexual relationships have hire rates of IPV. Potential causes are the higher rates of alcohol and substance abuse, societal stressors, and life course. Of particular note, bisexuals have the highest incident rate of IPV.
All of these papers makes it clear they are studying the relationships of SS couples, not just if they've ever experienced it in their lifetime.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0886260510383023
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S135917891200016X#preview-section-snippets
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/#B106
__redruM@reddit
Wait which is it?
inventingnothing@reddit
Yeah, I saw that, I was wrong. Whoospie
Borkenstien@reddit
Literally that last study says it excluded folks who only reported same sex partners. Ffs. Lol did you understand it or just read the words out loud and say, yeah that's right.
WonderfulRegret14@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
Pandainthecircus@reddit
I'm curious, how many accounts have you had? Unless you created this one to comment that which is kinda funny
lucidarethesheep@reddit
The most logical conclusion being women are crazy
visforvienetta@reddit
61% of lesbians have been abused doesn't mean 61% of kesbians were abused by a woman
GFCJrr@reddit
who’s got the pic of the cat? pls send
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DrDMango@reddit
I don’t know that this is a sufficient answer in that the question probably implies about rape of an unknown woman, like on the street. The answer is about rape of a known woman
keeleon@reddit
Believe it or not many men CAN control themselves around women on the street.
JonSnowsGhost@reddit
A woman walking down the street, getting assaulted and raped by a complete stranger, is a situation that accounts for a small minority of sexual assaults.
The majority of sexual assaults occur between two people who know each other.
DrDMango@reddit
Mhm. But read the original question. What do you think they’re asking for?
JonSnowsGhost@reddit
They're asking for a reason for why men supposedly can't control themselves around scantily clad women, but other women can.
It's a stupid question based on entirely on a narrative that is not representative of real life.
PleiadesMechworks@reddit
A) That's vanishingly rare in comparison to known perpetrators
B) Don't be racist
PM_MEOttoVonBismarck@reddit
I don't know about lot about the statistics. So don't trust me know this. But in highschool, we were taught that 1-3 women will experience domestic rape/abuse. I mean if this is correct, that means 2-3 women in lesbian relationships experience domestic rape. Which is twice the amount. Once again, what I learnt in High School years ago.
immad163@reddit
It does have some weight, because in a majority of cases the perpetrator is known
TheDaringScoods@reddit
This is a fair nuanced response on a 4chan subreddit, very based
ihatemalkoun@reddit
unironically using the word 'based' is not very based. it is cringe and soy
DrDMango@reddit
YOURE CRINGE!!!!
ihatemalkoun@reddit
no im based
DrDMango@reddit
Thank you! 😊
ihatemalkoun@reddit
nice interactions make me sick.
MiggerLite@reddit
Women really do bring other women down. Dudes rock 🎵🎵🎵🎵
Wickdtaint@reddit
“True story, I made these stats up just to prove my point”
fat_nuts_big_buttz@reddit
Is it causal?
brendanrobertson@reddit
Another interesting thing that should be studied is male reactions to potential partners if they (the male) has been abused or has an abuser in their family.
Just personal experience, but it seems like men who have at all felt anything similar to abuse of women have a higher empathy, and are far less aggressive.
Brussel_Rand@reddit
Testosterone is a funny drug. It makes you wild and do dumb shit, there's a reason why 99% of videos where people do dumb shit the subject is a guy. At the same time, it numbs your emotions and thats part of the reason alexithymia is more common in men.
Estrogen makes you feel more emotional and a lot of women run into mental health issues when they have heightened estrogen from pregnancy and whatnot.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
how is that at all relevant, and no, what you said was stupid nonsense
Caosunium@reddit
How is it stupid nonsense? Got any scientific proof?
ihatemalkoun@reddit
yes, but i dont feel like it.
Caosunium@reddit
Lol sure
ihatemalkoun@reddit
i just copypasted chatgpt
>The statement oversimplifies the effects of testosterone and estrogen. Testosterone doesn’t inherently make men do reckless things, and its relationship with behavior is more complex. Alexithymia in men is likely influenced by cultural factors, not just testosterone. Estrogen can influence mood, but it doesn't automatically make women overly emotional. Hormonal effects on mental health are nuanced and not as straightforward as implied.
john_spicy@reddit
bait used to be believable
ihatemalkoun@reddit
johnspicy's mom used to be fuckable
Brussel_Rand@reddit
My dad fucks me
BannedYetaGain9@reddit
Ok
ihatemalkoun@reddit
i can see why, handsome
crowmango69@reddit
I have a discount coupon for a Herman Miller chair. I can dm it to you as long as you promise to use it in the standing position asap!
slow_engineer@reddit
They can't and they do not. Unlike man, woman won't be charged with sexual assault if she slaps another girl's ass, they can just waive it off as "girls being silly and playful".
But if anon lightly touches woman's thigh while passing through, he would get absolute shit beat out of him.
ihatemalkoun@reddit
maybe anon should not lightly touch a womans thigh.
also men can slap mens butts and it will be played off as "boys being boys"
Striklev@reddit
Yes, but if a woman smacks a guys ass, it is socially acceptable, but vice versa is not
ihatemalkoun@reddit
why do you need to smack womens asses without consent, why is this a concern
KeyedJewedditor@reddit
missed the point again award, baited nobody award, rode the short bus to school award
ihatemalkoun@reddit
i dont worry about things i dont need to 🤷♂️
pliiplii2@reddit
Forgot ur pills this morning?
ihatemalkoun@reddit
i disagree with my schizophrenia diagnosis
trentbcraig21@reddit
I dont know if I'd say it's socially acceptable. More acceptable, sure. But it would still be weird as hell to witness in the wild.
Chops03xx@reddit
Just go to a lesbian club or bar and you’ll see how bad it is. Get touched/groped without consent and when you call her out on it, she just says “it’s ok, we’re both girls, it’s lot like I’m a guy”.
EquivalentSnap@reddit
Anon forgot the fact that bisexual and lesson women only make up 1.9% of the US women
Sneed-Feed-and-Seed@reddit (OP)
OnePastafarian@reddit
Wtf is a statistic lmao
EquivalentSnap@reddit
https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx
OnePastafarian@reddit
No I get that. Why's your original comment relevant?
EquivalentSnap@reddit
2% of women are lesbian. 98% are straight
OnePastafarian@reddit
You're joking right? The statistics are directly comparable because they're all talking about the proportion.
Organic-Walk5873@reddit
Misleading study that always gets posted
throw_it_awayyy8@reddit
Explain whyt then please. Don't just say "it's wrong" and not elaborate. Males ypu sound like you don't knkw what you're talking about( I hate when they do that in movies🤣)
Organic-Walk5873@reddit
The study never specifies if the offending party in the DV was male or female. Some of the lesbians were beaten by a man in a previous relationship as that would count as experiencing DV as a lesbian just as much as if it was a woman committing the DV
Borkenstien@reddit
Literally just saw study that explicitly excluded folks who only reported same sex partners... Like none of these chuds read or understand the articles they post.
Organic-Walk5873@reddit
It doesn't matter though, them learning they didn't understand the study will mean nothing to them. It's all poc hoc justifications for their (soy be upon me) bigotry
WorkerClass@reddit
Here's another question, since the study was not worried about creating bigotted stereotypes based on inborn traits, what's the skin color and religion of most of those men who are rapists?
Summerqrow17@reddit
Bisexual one kinda makes sense being the highest seeing as they can potentially meet the best or worst of men and women
Cauchemar89@reddit
Stop it with your misogynistic facts and logic, bigot.
StopCallinMePastries@reddit
God was just there to warn us, he never needed to punish us...we do that to ourselves by making bad choices.
Snoot_Boot@reddit
How do they rape so proficiently without any probing genitals?
Teo_Ancer@reddit
"one is a job and the other is a mental sickness"
ahackercalled4chan@reddit
"forms of rape"
there's different kinds?
DrDMango@reddit
Marriages have way different dynamics than just on the street rape, and sober and drunk rape, like Mr. Valley said, is also a difference.
SunderedValley@reddit
Getting it on while they're saying no vs getting it on while they're too impaired to say no are the two main ones.
dat1dankboi@reddit
Fantastic, now tell me the rates of rape between men and women outside of relationships.
vmpafq@reddit
Lesbians aren't real and women don't have a constant sex drive
nikoll-toma@reddit
wow cool it with the antisemitism
SunderedValley@reddit
This is what the kids call a truthnuke.
_Rook_Castle@reddit
Community Notes Cat strikes again.