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StonedTrucker@reddit

This is what made me quit werner. You can't sleep well when you need to wake up every 30 minutes and sit there nursing the engine for 10 minutes to stay warm. Fuck companies that treat drivers like this

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ragenuggeto7@reddit

Do you guys not have night heaters in the us ? My cab is like an oven through the winter via the mercs factory night heater.

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StonedTrucker@reddit

We can have anything and everything you can, the problem is mega companies won't pay for it. It's cheaper for them to buy a basic truck with no amenities and put a new driver in it every 3 months when the last one quits

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ragenuggeto7@reddit

Seems very short sighted, no way is it cheaper to pay to run the engine at idle for heating purposes vs having a night heater that barely consumes any fuel. And then there's all the extra wear on the engine from it idling.

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StonedTrucker@reddit

It certainly is short sighted but our economy is set up to run quarterly. Nobody cares how screwed up the engine will be 2 years from now because it will be someone else's problem. If I bought a truck I'd definitely equipnit to last but big companies don't care

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Swifty-1985@reddit

Do your trucks not have generators? They use a fraction of what a 15L engine uses and power your ac/heater... Also great for recharging your batteries if you forget to switch the isolator while away from truck.

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StonedTrucker@reddit

Some do but mega carriers won't buy them. We're not supposed to idle our engines but we do it anyway. A lot of APUs are crap here as well. The one on my last truck broke down almost every month and my current one doesn't run either

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Swifty-1985@reddit

It's a shame, they know drivers will 'break the rules' to be comfortable as comfort reduces fatigue... Lack of forward thinking is not a unique trait in this industry unfortunately

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ValuableShoulder5059@reddit

Inverter + space heater. Idk why the battery keeps dieing, boss!

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DaSaw@reddit

I actually tried this when my bunk heater was broken. But even with the engine running, it didn't produce enough current to run it. Without the engine running it wouldn't operate at all. My hope was to heat the cab up faster, heating from the moment I started the engine instead of having to wait for the engine to heat up. It was okay, though. I put together a truly massive pile of blankets and got through it, and had the bunk heater fixed a few days later.

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envy841@reddit

Have you ever tried a -0 degree camping sleeping bag? That worked for me but I froze as soon as i got out

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ValuableShoulder5059@reddit

Definitely good to keep in case of emergency.

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Independent-Fun8926@reddit

It drove me nuts at Crete too. Companies bitch and moan about driver safety and driver comfort, but sure as shit ain’t willing to pay a dime for it. When opti idle leads to driver’s death, the class action lawsuit will be biblical. Can’t wait for the check of $3.67 for my pain and suffering in 15 years

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datdudeuheardof@reddit

I drove for Crete for a year with opti idle and it was miserable at times during summer months and winter. One of their trucks almost killed me and my dog from an exhaust leak that was leaking into the cab in Wyoming when it was like 10 degrees, an APU with working heat would have been nice while I waited for an hour to be towed like 80 miles. I don't think I would ever work for a company without an APU, it's super critical. That's when I quit not long after. They are still the best mega carrier company to drive for imo. Wish I had stayed there.

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Tht24v2ndgen@reddit

Honestly with these new trucks you almost have to keep a carbon monoxide alarm in the truck because of that pesky emissions system.

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Independent-Fun8926@reddit

Damn that's scary. Exhaust leaks are one of my big fears. Glad you and your dog are good, driver. I really wanted Crete to work out for me. I had planned to stay there for a few years, get out of debt and save up cash. But every step of the way it felt like they didn't give a shit about me. Just another truck number. They left me waiting between loads a lot, that was my biggest bitch. Rarely preplanned. Sometimes 15 hours, sometimes a day. I sat in Houston for nearly two days waiting for a load. Even when I made sure about my calls and knew they knew I was ready to go again. Of course, then they'd send me to a Walmart DC to "help out." North Platte had me sitting as much as national dryvan. At least Cheyenne got me moving; I liked driving for them so much I stayed on their account for a month. The micromanaging got really frustrating. That my truck wasn't detailed and I had to do it myself when I got was annoying. That the truck wasn't even PM'd, it even had obvious OOS violations and other shit wrong with it - that all together took two days out of orientation to fix. That should've been a sign to go home honestly. More than half my orientation class had issues with their assigned trucks. Crete's a big company so no doubt a driver can find a good niche with a good AM and home terminal, and maybe they can easily tolerate the other bullshit, but man I couldn't stand it anymore and bailed. Couldn't do another mile for them. Really pissed me off when they didn't reimburse me $200 and charged me $300 for detailing their truck. I detailed it before I returned it lol. Maybe it's biting me in the ass now; it's been months since I got an offer lined up. But whatever. I'm fortunate that I can leave a bad job when I think it's time. Sorry for the long reply. I guess I'm still butthurt lmao

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datdudeuheardof@reddit

Yep very scary, i only noticed it because i got lightheaded and started panicking. Sounds like they did you dirty. My AM was actually very good, never micromanaged me and kept me rolling, though i only chose to drive 400 miles per day and do recaps with the occasional 34. Definitely matters whose your AM. Their equipment maintenance could definitely be better that's for sure. I remember having to help out at the Cheyenne walmart, that's what i hated most. They had me running out my 11 hr clock everyday and kept calling me. One of their reefer trailers broke down on me while i was sleeping. You can make a ton of money doing that though with how consistent Walmart freight is.

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NFLTG_71@reddit

A few people who have frozen to death because at the idle didn’t work below 20° it happened in 23. I haven’t heard anything since then and I don’t know if it was Werner or Schneider or one of the other big carriers. What it has happened as a matter of fact when we got our 23 freightliners and they didn’t put the bar heater in the bunk it was OK during the summer but when winter hit and it got below 30° the owner made them take the OPTi idle off so that way I could idle the truck without freezing to death

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ThellraAK@reddit

Why didn't they have wabastos?

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WolfDigles@reddit

Mine broke, and I’ve been sleeping in the high teens with 4 blankets on. It actually kept me pretty warm. It’s working now, but that shit ain’t fun.

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clapped-out-cammy@reddit

Seeing things like this baffle me sometimes. I slept with truck off last night and it was in the teens. I had a Walmart blanket and 2 cars for warmth. Felt good imo.

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murkymoon@reddit

Hypothermia can sneak up on you in your sleep though. Lots of people who freeze to death never saw it coming. They put on blankets, felt fine, went to sleep, and never woke up.

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Metaltom1970@reddit

I went to bed just north of the Tomahawk scale in CO in a snowstorm about 14 years ago, bunk heater was kicking then I woke up freezing under a good comforter and couldn’t get the truck to run long enough to warm up again, Mesilla Valley Transportation, can’t idle those. The bunk heater had quit, fortunately I was able to go inside and warm up.

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WolfDigles@reddit

I have a decent comforter from target, and 3 of those loves blankets. It’s toasty unless you get up for any reason.

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pianodude01@reddit

I was about to comment. It's all cozy till you gotta get up and take a quick piss. All that warmth is gone

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clapped-out-cammy@reddit

I just pee the bed. Keep the extra warmth with me. Also helps me keep my trucker smell.

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WolfDigles@reddit

This is the way.

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toomanydeployments@reddit

There was a parts shortage for bunk heaters so companies were receiving truck orders and taking a credit for the bunk heaters not being delivered. However, they didn't make changes to the truck programming to accommodate for not having heaters.

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Kolau@reddit

I was at Crete Carrier from 2018-2022 and that was a big issue I had with them. At the time I was able to put a bottle on the right side of the fuel pedal to keep the truck running when I needed it to

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Independent-Fun8926@reddit

I was with them only three months last year. I never tried the bottle trick but I never found any trick to work on the '22 Cascadia I had. It'd even try to shut down sitting in traffic or at a red light. Opti-Idle would always bug out at least once or twice a week, and it wouldn't cycle the a/c at all until I hard-reset the electronics. Some days I'd wake up 3 hours into a 10, sweating bullets and really pissed off

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BriskManeuver@reddit

Crete is a bunch of penny pinchers so im not surprised

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Independent-Fun8926@reddit

Yup, I couldn’t stand that lol. Micromanaging the shit out of you so you don’t god forbid cost them a few extra dollars. They wouldn’t reimburse me $200 and charged me $300 for detailing the truck I detailed myself when I quit. They gave me that piece of shit undetailed when I signed on. I had to do it myself Fuck that company. Scumbags

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BriskManeuver@reddit

I really hated the whole you can't go on toll roads bs unless you got permission

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Independent-Fun8926@reddit

Pretty much a thing. No tolls unless they're in the route. Dedicated WM out of Cheyenne could use E470 around Denver on loads at certain times. I'm pretty sure I paid out of my pocket on a few toll roads for their benefit

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beamin1@reddit

Why not just pull the trailer brakes, throw a chock on the tractor if it makes you nervous and then let it idle in gear...

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StonedTrucker@reddit

I've tried this in several trucks and they all acted differently. One let me idle, one didn't care at all and shut right down, and a third one would let me idle 95% of the time but randomly choose a time to start the idle shut off. If you find the thermometer you can trick your truck into idling all you want

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oasuke@reddit

some still shut off regardless. if your truck has an override engine button, you can buy a button clicker on Amazon and program it to click the button every 2 minutes. it's pathetic its come to this.

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LonleyWolf420@reddit

The override is meant for emergency shut down to get off the road if the engine has an issue.. using this can void the warranty.. I'm not siding with these POS companies I'm just stating something I read in the owners manual

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Orthonut@reddit

That doesn't work for all tractors unfortunately

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Ur_Fav_Step-Redditor@reddit

These companies suck for sure. But as a driver you should already have extra blankets in case of emergency. I suggest an actual cold weather sleeping bag. That’s what I got when I had a trainer, even though it was July. But I’ve been out in -15 and my bunk heater wouldn’t start bc snow pileup was blocking it and I’d get in that sleeping bag with a little fleece blanket too and literally had the best sleep of my life… until you wake up and have to crawl out of bed into a damn freezer. But if you’re stuck at that kind of company for now then get a good sleeping bag that’s rated for like -30°. They aren’t that much more than a normal sleeping bag at Walmart.

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BumblebeeInfamous429@reddit

seriously get your sleep so you can drive and we can give you shit loads all day for 13/14 hours

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DifferenceOld5056@reddit

What company u work for now?

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Head-Lawfulness9617@reddit

Penis and Penis Inc. They match 6.5z

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markwmke@reddit

Get a small generator and plug it into your shore power so your bunk heater can run....it's not that difficult

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Gonzotrucker1@reddit

They treat you like animals but people continue to work for them.

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AnyAssistant8879@reddit

Mfs need experience too 🤷🏿‍♂️

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foreverlost1nsea@reddit

Because some don't mind being animals

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Darth_Hidious2581@reddit

Put something heavy on the gas pedal to keep the engine idling. I use a king pin lock.

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NewZJ@reddit

I used to put a resistor in the temp sensor connector in the driver mirror. My truck said it was always 104° on the dash

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GED_certified-frog@reddit

Yeah I can hear my dispatch already (your idle time is ridiculous if you don't fix it now we won't be having as nice of a conversation) yes this is exactly what was told to me the last time I ran the truck a few days during the summer

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unftp-0@reddit

You need to drop a YouTube tutorial

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ONE-EYE-OPTIC@reddit

Yeah otherwise he's gatekeeping this hack.

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K_F_G@reddit

you can also just disconnect the sensor and it blanks out the temp letting the truck idle

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AnyManbutme@reddit

I was gonna suggest tying a string to the trolley brake run it under the seat and back to the bunk to yank on but this is way better

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KingHauler@reddit

Trucks are smarter than that, they'll still idle shutdown if you aren't moving. I've tested exactly what you said

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buddhathebard@reddit

Nah. Pop the trailer brake and leave the tractor brake pushed in. It'll idle all night. I dunno if I'd do this in the winter to keep warm, but it'll help you to stay cool in the summer.

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MajorHymen@reddit

My truck will still shut off even if I’m still in drive with just a foot on the brake.

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japark78@reddit

It's absolutely illegal for the truck to shut off while in gear... Brought this up with the Freightliner techs I work with, it's not a setting they just turn on it's a bypass they add that will avoid the warranty if the driver brings it up and it gets found. Not something the techs look for on their own.

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MajorHymen@reddit

Technically the countdown kicks you into neutral out of drive. Even if you have the knob still on drive it’ll pop up as neutral on the dash when it turns off. To start the truck I have to switch the knob to neutral and turn the key even though it says N on the dash.

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Orthonut@reddit

I had one shut down on me at a railroad crossing once. Absolutely infuriating.

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buddhathebard@reddit

Now this is obnoxious

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MajorHymen@reddit

Yeah many times I’ve been in standstill traffic and looking around not paying attention to have my truck shut off on me. I have 5 minutes. If I don’t go 2mph the truck will shut off no matter what at the end of that count down. Reverse, drive, neutral, foot on the brake, trailer brake held down or any of the knobs pushed in I’ve tried it all. The only thing that stops the countdown is forward motion.

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Madmagician1303@reddit

I have 2 chocks for nights in want a/c when I'm bobtail.

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oasuke@reddit

Nope. I can 100% confirm this doesn't work on the freightliners at my company. It'll idle for about an hour then shut off.

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Alive-Worldliness-27@reddit

Wow an hour is nice I have to hit the override every 45ish seconds or so it’s annoying

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oasuke@reddit

It only lasts an hour if you don't have the tractor brakes set. It's super annoying because anytime you open the door the truck horn will go off.

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Alive-Worldliness-27@reddit

Hmm If I get another freightliner tonight I'll give it a shot.

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flatdecktrucker92@reddit

I had to do this in the winter in Yellowknife because of that system. I'm glad I drive local now

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seedubayew@reddit

This doesn't work with every truck

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Just313@reddit

This is what i used to do. Make sure you’re level though lol. Also i definitely wouldn’t do it in the winter

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Creative_Shame3856@reddit

Here I thought my trick of duct taping a hand warmer to the sensor was smart...what value resistor did the trick?

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IAMATruckerAMA@reddit

Use a mini heating pad from a pet store

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UhOhAllWillyNilly@reddit

Nahhh. Get a 12VDC electric mattress pad and/or an electric blanket. They use tiny amperage and work fabulously.

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IAMATruckerAMA@reddit

A larger version of the same thing? Using more power and making more heat when I'm trying to run my AC

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UhOhAllWillyNilly@reddit

They’re only useful in the winter. I thought people were talking about being cold, not hot.

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IAMATruckerAMA@reddit

Nah, these comments started with the guy who made it show 104 on the dash

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UhOhAllWillyNilly@reddit

The picture at the top shows 29°F. Maybe tricking the truck into thinking it’s hot as the dickens allows you to use the HVAC for heating instead of cooling (just as long as it overrides the auto-shutoff).

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IAMATruckerAMA@reddit

https://reddit.com/comments/1hx8yy4/comment/m67946s Here's the comment we're replying to right now. I'm not interested in talking about this with you anymore

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Pushfastr@reddit

Buddy is living up to their name

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NewZJ@reddit

I wish i remembered. It was given to me by another driver and i didn't take a photo. I suppose a potentiometer could be used to dial in the temp on the display and then replaced with a resistor after it's figured out.

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polarjunkie@reddit

I miss 1990s radio shack, This would have been a $0.30 fix

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_PercyPlease@reddit

My first thought. I can see the leg board alcoves in my dreams

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COVFEFE-4U@reddit

Wrapping a heating pad around the sensor works too.

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12InchPickle@reddit

Big brain move.

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Old-Wolf-1024@reddit

That is fucking brilliant!!

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Eidolon82@reddit

England is the same, won't idle between 17 and 72. But there's a bunk heaters that blasts hot enough to warm up a can of soup with and it'll still crank up when it wants to charge the batteries if you somehow manage to sit long enough for it to matter.

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musicalmadness1@reddit

I was on dedicated fleet. We cheated and maxed heat an hour before parking and then adjusted the sleeper fan separately. Kept the truck idling. Sucked for that fleet that england only decided in Dec 2023 to get all sleepers with apus. Like wtf.

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Eidolon82@reddit

I've been through half a dozen trucks, all had espar heaters. This is the first one that has opti idle enabled but I've never needed it just for heat, I just get the batteries tested as winter rolls in. The APUs were and are a lie. They're actually EPUs and there's tons of '24 and '25 trucks without them. They just can't understand than no one gets actual APUs to lose money while also wanting to be anal about idle times, but that seems to be every mega. Far as I know everything after '23 does have opti idle, and idk if they intended it but I have an air dump switch again. I haven't had that since some 53xxx POS and jesus it's been a life saver while filling in on a retail dedicated fleet with three daily drop hooks.

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musicalmadness1@reddit

I have a tripac apu. It will jump battery if it's dead but has enough charge. And my apu will start and shut down as needed. My company all trucks have air dump. But we only have like 300 trucks in the company. Including some manual ones. How is a apu a lie. And I was stopped working for England in Jan of 2023. I remember the December safety thing about they would be getting apus on all sleeper trucks. The apu doesn't burn as much fuel as idling truck engine. And as stated it can jump battery keep heater working or ac. I don't see a issue it also helps keep tanks from freezing and coolant from being ice cold when starting engine.

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Eidolon82@reddit

Because they never have and never will consider APUs. They were going to get EPUs and tell the drivers who don't know the difference that they were APUs. We still mostly have neither, but I haven't seen a '24 or '25 without optiidle so that's probably what they went with. https://meltontruck.com/blog/apus-epus/

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musicalmadness1@reddit

Yeah. My company went with actual apus. The tripac uses diesel fuel. Not a epu. I know what the epu is. I wouldn't want one rather have apu since it doesn't need more batteries. I don't know if england ever got there eapu or epu systems since I left them.

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w3stvirginia@reddit

That’s ridiculous for the upper end. How do you not have a heat stroke in the summer trying to sleep when the sun is out? At 72 outside it’s still going to be nearly 90 inside with the sun cooking the cab.

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Eidolon82@reddit

Being an adult and cracking the windows, especially the upper ones, with the fans on.

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TelephoneNo7244@reddit

Wedge the pedal and/or use only trailer brake.

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egeorgak12@reddit

Sorry to sound mean, but y'all deserve it for working for these companies. If y'all just teamed up and quit, companies would have no choice but to treat you like people and not animals. Before you even agree to a job, these are basic things along with pay that you need to ask.

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YaBoiAggroAndy@reddit

Everybody talking about their hacks and buying more blankets and stuff. Yall gotta realize though, if I gotta spend my own money while I’m at work to stay alive, that’s a problem.

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Songgeek@reddit

Why not get a space heater for the bunk, plug it into the inverter, drain the battery faster and force opti idle to stay on longer, and keep you warmer

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BigRedsExpress@reddit

You can always try and see if your truck has a manual high idle option. My KW luckily enough has it enabled and I work for a Mega that typically disables it. Not sure how it’s done on a Freightshaker but with mine I enable cruise control and just the + button and it puts it up to 800rpms that I can also drop to 720rpm and still maintain .4gal/hr consumption

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Metaltom1970@reddit

Hard pass on that.

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gfinchster@reddit

I work for one of those Best Fleets to Drive For companies. Have a Carrier APU and the only time my truck won’t idle is if it’s between 50 degrees and 70 degrees, anything above or below that and the truck will run out of fuel before it shuts off. When it is going to get into single digits that’s when I will idle for the night, APU just won’t keep up since I only close my front curtains.

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wittywillync@reddit

what company

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Dude_Mention@reddit

Lol all the trucks at werner have bunk heaters that work on electricity I mean gtfo from Werner regardless for the shit-show that they are

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genosx71@reddit

Yeah how bout we unplug their AC and Heat units at their homes

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_Divergent_@reddit

And at work

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buckytuba1@reddit

Seriously? Thry have idle shut down and don't provide apus? That's crazy and it must be illegal in some way.

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musicalmadness1@reddit

Nope the expect otr you'll have blankets and stuff. Cr england didn't start ordering all sleepers with apus till December 2023 so fleets that I was on which were dedicated regional were sol.

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KitteyGirl2836@reddit

If you got a trailer attached push in the truck brakes and keep the trailers on so your truck can stay on, fuck them and there fuel savings in freezing cold weather, let them cry from inside the heated office all they want

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musicalmadness1@reddit

Sometimes won't work. My company it'll still cut engine. But we got tripac apus. Cr england does same we found a way to glitch it. Set heater max in cab for about hour before stopping. Usually has temp good for the truck to stay idling. And can turn down the sleeper heater. Least for me and my guys it worked.

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stephenforbes@reddit

I've honestly never heard anything good about Werner.

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stephenforbes@reddit

Their profits > you

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K_F_G@reddit

DISCONNECT THE TEMP SENSOR IN THE DRIVER SIDE MIRROR¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡111q111111q!11111!1!!!!!!!!¡!¡!¡!!!!!!!!!!!¡!¡!!!!!!

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silverchevy2011@reddit

Get a 55 gallon drum and burn trash in your sleeper to stay warm

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DaSaw@reddit

Lol, don't mind the carbon monoxide.

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silverchevy2011@reddit

Helps you sleep

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Jets_De_Los@reddit

Genius.

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twistedxmelon18@reddit

"Mega-carriers hate this one simple trick"

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buckytuba1@reddit

Ya I've done the forced idle thing with the brake and cruise. My company keeps up with that. They know all. The camera can even detect when you look away or down. It's spooky. I get distracted driving comments. Fortunately we have apus that keep the cab comfortable at night.

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rpeyton48@reddit

Funny, because I just asked our boss about what temps we should idle the truck and not use the APU, and he said “shit man anything below like 32” and were routinely in cold temps in the winter and it’s not like that’s not a normal thing before anyone thinks something crazy lol

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NeoAcario@reddit

I thought mine was bad turning off above 40. Freezing? That’s just retarded.

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Terrible-Strategy127@reddit

I believe werner has climate off from 25 to 69.

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No-Flight5639@reddit

Seaboard Liquid Carriers was like this too. Doesn't matter how cold it is use the diesel heater. -40° ... truck doesn't start.... office is like, why did you shut it off?

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Significant-Pie1070@reddit

When I was at a mega that happened all the time. I turned on my microwave for 2 minutes and it would always start back up

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CBTwitch@reddit

One of the reasons I quit Werner more than a decade ago. When Illinois is so cold that the bunk heater won’t work, and the truck won’t idle more than five minutes… I’m not dying for your car parts.

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userGamer556@reddit

Turn your lights on and plug in a fan. The engine won’t turn off.

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JakeJascob@reddit

Most trucks have battery powered bunk heaters they want you to use instead of opti-idle

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RoadAegis@reddit

Funny this is those EAT battery Voltage and ya end up In Battery Mode anyways.

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JakeJascob@reddit

Ik but they're to dumb to realize that it seems lol

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RoadAegis@reddit

Swift likes to tell us to lower Idle times WHILE IN Opti Idle which is always a Lark.

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colcla806@reddit

Will never work for a company again that has this shit

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jHugley328@reddit

Thats when you use a lighter and hit that temp sensor. Unless they made it to shut off after the temp dropped.

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XtreamerPt@reddit

What dash is that? It looks like a Temu - Mercedes Actros layout.

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ecstadtic@reddit

It’s a Freightliner, so your comment is pretty much spot on.

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Unfair_Fisherman_605@reddit

Fuck Major Carriers! They only think about themselves and there bottom dollar. I work for a small company that has all 389 Peterbilts. This thing idles beautifully all night @1,000 rpm. Had a brand new Electric EpU on it. Worked for about a week then crapped out. So now back to idle and using the Espar heater. It was -25 up in Wisconsin last week. Stay safe stay warm lads!

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Academic-Swim-7103@reddit

I drove for Werner in 2016 and had the same issue until I figured out that chocking the tires so I could release the parking brake kept the engine idling all night long. I picked up the heavy duty chocks from live load warehouses. They were heavy duty and just laying around…mine now!!! Best of luck and Respect Driver!!!

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SuperReleasio64@reddit

I may have hated working at Wastard Express but at least the Intertrashinal they gave me let me idle 24/7

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whatsqwerty@reddit

I’d quit

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daixso@reddit

Does Weiner not spec espar heaters? As long as opti idle is on you can leave interior comfort off and run your espar truck will start to charge the batteries still that is what we do at my company get your experience and get the hell out of

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atticthump@reddit

we do. That's what I do, op must not know how to use it? And our trucks will stay running if the temperature is below 20°

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Riyeko@reddit

They had espar heaters on my 2016 Freightliner back in the day. I don't know if OPs truck has one or not. I know they don't do APUs

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goofybaseball_@reddit

They started doing APUS on the newer trucks last year, but I know a lot of trucks still don't have them

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Mountainear99@reddit

I’m glad I ain’t the only one that calls them Weiner lmao

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Filamcouple@reddit

Decades ago they were called Weiner Wagons.

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Shut_It_Donny@reddit

I was wondering, because my little mom and pop company has espar heaters.

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Tricky_Big_8774@reddit

My Chicago based, Eastern European owned company has bunk heaters. They even had an APU Style heater/ac in the last truck I had, and it didn't have Opti idle.

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CharmingToe2830@reddit

Yes had one on my international and freightliner i think they were 21 and 22.

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SchemeDifferent5692@reddit

I used to put hot hands on the sensor and it would run the temp up to keep idling

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Alive-Worldliness-27@reddit

Where is the temp sensor at on a Cascadia?

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SchemeDifferent5692@reddit

On the bottom of the driver side mirror.

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Known-Brain-6862@reddit

I’m warm blooded and have an epu but 30 or below it will idle all night sadly it won’t idle unless temps exceed 100 I die in the heat and am alright in the cold either way the epu dclinate does well I only idle if in single digits or negatives

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truckmonkey12@reddit

Does your truck not have a bunk heater?

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pattop@reddit

I know it's probably super dangerous, but could you rig up the sleeping area with a wood stove/heater? I believe some van life enthusiasts have figured out how to put them into their Vans without burning the vehicle up.

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TillPlayful@reddit

I used to run over the CEOs of trucking companies that did this. Luckily the idle shut down made it so it was quite for the crimescene investigators.

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Diablo_Bolt@reddit

Dude its been cold as fuck here in Olney lately, I’ve been waking up shivering almost every night

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ohjaimiea@reddit

I have a -20 sleeping bag and a bunch of other blankets. I wear long sweats to bed and I fill up my hot water bottle that thing will stay warm for 24hrs tucked into the feet of the sleeping bag. I sleep like the dead it is PERFECT

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JustShotYouDown@reddit

There are Sudanese refugees with higher standards of living than some truckers, I swear to god

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ohjaimiea@reddit

I like to sleep with it crazy cold I get the best sleep of my life and I also get my fuel bonus in the winter. Now in summer no I run the truck for AC idc bout fuel can’t stand it hot

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potato_farm86@reddit

Its ridiculous that you have to do that

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Tricky_Big_8774@reddit

We've got Apu style bunk heaters, but I still have a -20º rated sleeping bag just in case

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ArthAngel@reddit

So I've seen from a friend doing this . I believe the trucks are programed (or used to be) to stay on if the temp is greater than 70 OR less than 25. So if it's below 25, the truck will stay on. For those pesky days that was only 26 and wouldn't go down.... managed to find the temp sensor, and a lighter was lit under it to bring the temp to 70. Once it hit 70, leave it alone. don't move the truck at all because it will reset. Able to idle through the night.

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DisastrousDance7372@reddit

These otr companies don't have espar heaters?

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kakarota@reddit

Fucking love those things. It would be -10 outside and my sleeper felt like I was in the Caribbean those little sucker's are powerful.

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morgottkev@reddit

I’ve been using mine every day lol

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kakarota@reddit

On a freightliner, if you look underneath the driver side mirror there's thins little thing sticking out. that's the sensor that read the temp. You can't cut it off with a knife but you'll have your check engine light on. I did this when I worked at swift when the damn truck wouldn't idle and I said fuck it and just cut it off.

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M0O53@reddit

For all the shit megas get this one is absolutely fucking justified, that is pathetic. The three mom and pop companies I've worked for in my career all of them had anti-idle methods on the truck like webasto heaters or little tripac generators, but none of them would stop you from just idling if you wanted to. None of the trucks had that bullshit shut off garbage. And if something broke they just had you idle until it was fixed and the one time both my anti idling AC and my truck's AC broke down at the same time they put me in a hotel so I could sleep. Other than the poor folks trying to get their experience so they can go to a real company, there is no excuse to be putting up with that kind of bullshit.

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SleepingGiante@reddit

I just turn in battery mode then run my microwave.

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Barnestownlife@reddit

Ok I thought you were referring to Werner Herzog and I read this in a Werner Herzog voice: "eenferior comfoort mode reztricted due to aaambiant teeemperature"

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FlatCapNorthumbrian@reddit

Do trucks in the U.S. not come with diesel night heaters?

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GreatWhiteM00se@reddit

Not all of them, but I have no idea why you wouldn't spec a truck with one. I won't own a truck without one.

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AdventurousLawyer646@reddit

Espar diesel fired bunk heaters. $#! + melts plastic and everything else in front of the vent. Alot of manufactures are moving to epu's now to capitalize on the money. Normally another company makes the apu and installs it. Freightliner and International have their own epu. And like most new/new-ish stuff there's some kinks and issues needing to be worked out.

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Ploddit71@reddit

As a euro I am astounded that a) you guys idle all night b) they have trucks without working night heaters. It should be really simple no night heater or night AC no nights in the truck.

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BL24L@reddit

29°, that's good sleeping. Was 6° in here when I woke up. My vape flashes like it's out of power at that temperature. Double and triple up on blankets and take comfort in knowing it's warm at your dispatch house.

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NFLTG_71@reddit

Put on socks, sweatpants, and sweatshirt or a hoodie and get you one of them weighted blankets, and another one to go over that and you’re fine. You’re nice and toasty but once it dips below 30 and you’ve got these new trucks with little or no insulation you could freeze very easily

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BL24L@reddit

Supposedly the company pays for the trucks with upgraded insulation. I'd hate to see the standard insulation. My dumb ass sleeps in underwear. I tried socks but they make me too hot. It's a miserable trip to the ignition in the morning.

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NFLTG_71@reddit

Well, we supposedly had upgraded insulation and one of our guys had a bad accident wasn’t his fault. He basically was hit on the side of his cab. The insulation was less than a quarter of an inch thick and it was more like paper than it was fiberglass insulation.

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BL24L@reddit

Start stuffing old bol in the wall

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TheFringedLunatic@reddit

My company definitely sprung for the insulation. -2 the other night and I was toasty while stripped down to nada.

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NFLTG_71@reddit

Well, we supposedly had upgraded insulation and one of our guys had a bad accident wasn’t his fault. He basically was hit on the side of his cab. The insulation was less than a quarter of an inch thick and it was more like paper than it was fiberglass insulation.

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GhostlyCannibal94@reddit

Switch to Baylor. We have APU's.

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bob696988@reddit

Get a heating blanket that works for me. The blanket stays on for 8 hours then shuts off.

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Mcgill1cutty@reddit

Tape a hot hands to the temp sensor. It’s at the bottom of the drivers side mirror. Feels like a little bump. Worked for me.

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Im-PhilMoreJenkins@reddit

Not even Western Express does us this dirty. Anything under 35 and it'll idle often. There's also a fuse you can pull in the fuse box inside the dash that'll make it idle forever, commenter on another post said which one. I've used that trick a couple times with no issues.

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MCryptoWars@reddit

That sucks! They need to unlock that send everyone a video on how to properly use that feature. If used un properly, it can cause damage to the engine in the long run.

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BumblebeeInfamous429@reddit

my space heater saved me bc my bunk heater does not stay on and when opti idle does kick in the air blowing out is cold 🥶

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dustin_257@reddit

Push in the tractor brake if connected to a trailer. Will work but you will have to regen manually sometime throughout the night

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seedubayew@reddit

If this is an idle switch shit off the only sure way I could keep mine from cutting off is to have something pressing down on my brake enough to make the truck think I'm driving.

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buddhathebard@reddit

My newer truck at Swift did this too. God I'm glad I left. Since I've moved I've not heard once about Idle % or anything. They also run apu's though. Put in your time and get out man.

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cantuseasingleone@reddit

When/if you can stop by an auto parts store to get a brake pedal depressor. It has been awhile but if I remember correctly depressing the brakes was an override for that.

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Alcoholictradesmen@reddit

Most trucks these days will still shut off if the brake is being applied. Mine did at least.

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joshgly@reddit

Vevor deisel heaters are about $90. They need: battery(barely) and a gallon of deisel will last about a night if you want to keep your bunk 70 degrees. If there's any way to duct into the bunk

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boogerman1538@reddit

Da hell with that

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JustShotYouDown@reddit

Copy and pasted my old comment. I used to work for Werner. This is what I did My old freightliner would shut off because of opti idle between 32-68 degrees. I bought a small heater with a cigarette lighter power source from loves, and an extender for that plug and would tape it under the driver side mirror by the temp sensor. I would then tape an old BOL with it to make a little pocket of hot hair that would have the truck thinking its 108 degrees in January in Chicago. It was total redneck engineering but it worked all night

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T00dl@reddit

I bought a Zippo just for that reason. I made sure the flame didn’t get too close and burn the sensor, but IDGAF where I was or the temp outside, she was idling lol

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Dizzy-Hawk1516@reddit

Bunker heater FTW 😎

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Alternative-Jury-981@reddit

Can you let it idle with just the trailer brakes popped?

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flergityberg@reddit

Fuckin’ hell. Come work at Swift, my opt idle works just fine. Been toasty the last few days of Arctic weather.

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CapitanPino@reddit

Damn 21000 miles lmao

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karrimycele@reddit

C’mon driver, it’s above zero! Only a little below freezing. Knock back a couple Fireballs and jump into your sleeping bag. You do have an Arctic-rated sleeping bag, right?

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NinjaNymph@reddit

Do you have an Espar heater? I was having the same issues with my freightliner. If you put the espar heater on and then you put the thing on battery mode it’ll stay warm in the truck and the thing will start when it needs to charge the battery and keep the engine and coolant oil warm

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Nonya_bsness@reddit

What? It's just a little bit below freezing. You didn't need to be warm or comfortable at all to sleep! Now get out there and drive on the same roads as people's family and friends.

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bloodsoed@reddit

29 degrees. That’s good sleeping weather with a thick blanket.

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Dezzolve@reddit

It’s 27 degrees where I’m at, I’ve got the heat off, windows and vents cracked, and a huge wool blanket on me. I’ve found this blanket will keep me toasty until about 10 degrees outside. The only thing that kinda sucks is getting out of bed haha. I usually turn the heater on about 30min before I get up for the day though.

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Coodevale@reddit

I hang a blanket off the top bunk and it naturally gets a few degrees warmer inside the bottom bunk blanket fort with just that. More convenient than the curtains too.

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