anon explains America
Posted by Brasil1126@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 26 comments
Posted by Brasil1126@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 26 comments
oldmanshoutinatcloud@reddit
A democracy of 538 people.
RichardInaTreeFort@reddit
Of 538 elected representatives. So, a democratic republic.
Single-Bad-5951@reddit
From a choice of two, so a democracy of 1076
Swurphey@reddit
wtf are you doubling the number of rep?
Single-Bad-5951@reddit
You basically choose between two parties, which means you are choosing from a pool 1076 people
Swurphey@reddit
It's the same electors, there aren't two sets of electoral colleges
Single-Bad-5951@reddit
Can't you just draw names out of a hat?
Swurphey@reddit
As to who the electors go to? You want the elections decided on a series of coin flips?
Single-Bad-5951@reddit
Like a tombola
A_for_Anonymous@reddit
Democratic. You keep used that word. The guys who invented it do not think it means what you think it means. And no, it doesn't mean casting votes, nor it means everybody gets to vote, nor it means anything they claim is democracy on TV.
The winning move was to rename the shit system the establishment wanted to keep control via just two brands and fake polarisation "democracy", so that people cannot say "wr want democracy instead of this". Very Orwellian.
RichardInaTreeFort@reddit
I’m not sure what point you think you’re making here…. But it seems you have a cursory understanding of American political history and philosophy and have developed what you think is some kinda “gotcha” here for anyone who appreciates the principles of the American system. But once again, you’re not very clear on your point you’re making so maybe I’m misreading.
A_for_Anonymous@reddit
The point is it is not a democracy as invented in Athens. It's a different thing which was given the same name so as to confuse people into thinking they did get a democracy as it was defined by its inventors.
And the system itself is just a way to keep people voting brand blue or brand red and getting polarised over stupid shit while the establishment keeps getting richer and having it their way.
RichardInaTreeFort@reddit
They never claimed it was the same democracy Athens had. They never wanted it to be that. They used that as a frame to create an entirely new system. You can like it or dislike for whatever reasons, but you need to understand why, what and how they created what they did first.
TheInfamousFrycarson@reddit
It made more sense before the libtards ended slavery.
WendyLRogers3@reddit
Be sure to list the exclusions. For example, no electoral votes for those citizens who do not live in states, or who are counted as having citizenship in states. This excludes several million people.
Swurphey@reddit
??
WendyLRogers3@reddit
Electoral votes are only from "the individual states", not territories.
Residents of U.S. territories cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections, and they have only non-voting representation in the U.S. Congress.
The U.S. has five permanently inhabited territories: Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands in the Caribbean Sea, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands in the North Pacific Ocean, and American Samoa in the South Pacific Ocean. American Samoa is in the Southern Hemisphere, while the other four are in the Northern Hemisphere. In 2020, their combined population was about 3.62 million, over 90% of which is accounted for by Puerto Rico alone.
Swurphey@reddit
Yeah I know that, what does "or who are counted as having citizenship in states" mean, when are non-citizens treated as citizens? The national/citizen difference is more than just voting rights, being a citizen is pretty binary unless specific states have their own programs
WendyLRogers3@reddit
I was specifically thinking of veterans and expats living overseas. They must go to some lengths to vote.
Brasil1126@reddit (OP)
technically, citizens don’t get electoral votes, states do
WendyLRogers3@reddit
My point. But lots of citizens don't live in, or are listed as legal residents, of states.
Brasil1126@reddit (OP)
if the senate cant decide on a vice president the union is dissolved btw
Ozymandias_1303@reddit
Yep, that would make the system we have currently look pretty good by comparison.
nez9k@reddit
That is literally the system we currently have
SoyjakvsChadRedditor@reddit
Americans don't look like that. That photo is missing the beautiful scenic background of Walmart. She needs to be 600lbs and in a mobility scooter, with a basket full of sodas.
T. American
H_cranky@reddit
Lust provoking image