Most *nixy Linux?
Posted by doa70@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 172 comments
I just saw a post about how Mint has risen to the top of the popularity list at Distrowatch, beating out MX. We hear a lot about how Mint is great for beginners coming from Windows because the UI is familiar.
That got me thinking. What is the least Windows-like, or most Linux/Unix -like distro? What takes the most traditional *nix approach, whatever you think that may be?
I suppose if I wanted something that looked more traditional I'd go through the effort of using NsCDE. Another part would be using something that hasn't adopted systemd.
Thoughts?
roboman316@reddit
Install Gentoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
firebreathingbunny@reddit
You'll have to look to the BSDs for the traditional Unix feel.
MatchingTurret@reddit
MacOS is officially Unix certified, so a system doesn't have to feel unixy to actually be Unix.
the_humeister@reddit
In the past there were several Linux distributions that were also certified Unix (none of the mainstream ones).
Salt-Piano1335@reddit
This comment lead me to a search and I landed here, it's a pretty neat list:
https://github.com/sirredbeard/awesome-unix
Typeonetwork@reddit
Exhaustive list.
natermer@reddit
Linux is the new Unix.
When people want their Unixes to support cross-platform apps they implement Linux binary compatibility.
Solaris did it. AIX did it. FreeBSD did it. OpenBSD.
Even Windows did it. Although they realized later on it was better to just run Linux instead of doing it in the NT kernel.
OS X is the last hold out, but people do it anyways with add-ons in order to do be compatible with things like Docker.
DHOC_TAZH@reddit
Haha... I always joke with some of my OS X loving people that if you leave me alone with your Macs, I'll open up all of the terminal and X Window stuff lol
TheOriginalSamBell@reddit
kinda sucks because this is one of the best features of the nt kernel
Morphized@reddit
They could totally have added more and more subsystems to keep up. Like a BeOS subsystem or something.
Xatraxalian@reddit
WSL, Windows Subsystem for Linux, is not new. In the past, Windows NT4 had WSU, or Windows Services for Unix. When installed, Windows NT4 was POSIX compliant, and maybe even Unix-certified... but I might be misremembering that. It's been 25 years :|
Morphized@reddit
There was a remade version in Windows 7 that had limited capability but I think supported some framebuffer actions
synth_mania@reddit
Makes sense. I guess it means they probably couldn't use systemd and that would change a lot of things. That's assuming that these even existed after systemd was created.
skuterpikk@reddit
MacOS basically is Unix.
The Darwin kernel is based on BSD laced with Mach/NextStep, whereas all the proprietary graphical stuff is made in-house by apple, allthough based/inspired by NextStep as well. BSD is true Unix, and so was A/UX, the "grandfather" of OSX
MatchingTurret@reddit
There is no lineage from A/UX to OSX. Tevanian developed OSX from his works on Mach and NextStep. If you know otherwise, I'd like a source.
skuterpikk@reddit
Yeah, probably a bad choice of words, what I meant was inspiration, not in a literal manner.
Successful_Good_4126@reddit
The best part about macOS is it feels non-UNIXy where you want it, in the GUI areas etc, but perfectly UNIX where you want it e.g. in the terminal and in terms of directory structure.
dkonigs@reddit
And more importantly, commercial software companies don't laugh in your face when you want support for the platform.
Yes, sometimes this actually matters.
Successful_Good_4126@reddit
It's incredibly important and the main reason Linux has struggled to get a Desktop OS footing in market share outside of personal machines used for gaming and devlopment.
BertieBassetMI5Asset@reddit
It's also why Valve is never going to release SteamOS as just a random ISO you can download from them - no matter what they say or what disclaimers they give, they do not want the support nightmare of having to deal with little Billy destroying all his files by blowing away Windows and installing SteamOS without knowing what he's doing, and/or having to answer questions about why he now can't play League.
Chosen_UserName217@reddit
This is exactly why i love macos. I use Linux everyday for work and windows for home (games). I decided i wanted a really nice Linux machine that had really good hardware. Ended up buying a Mac. Love it. I do a ton of stuff with Terminal but the GUI is great too.
determineduncertain@reddit
This is why I like it. That and I can run aarch64 Windows, BSD and Linux VMs getting the best of all for worlds.
Dismal-Detective-737@reddit
You used to be able to log in straight to a console by using the user: ">console"
starnamedstork@reddit
Or run NeXTStep.
RomanOnARiver@reddit
Exactly. The people at AT&T Bell Labs never imagined the kind of things computers can do now. Just because it wasn't something computers did in 1970 doesn't mean it is inherently less Unixey.
__konrad@reddit
Ironically the early Mac OS X was presented as "Linux-like": https://youtu.be/Ko4V3G4NqII?t=181
bshea@reddit
As much as I like and grew up with Slackware, I agree. {*}BSD is closer to Unix. USL-AT&T even sued BSD for calling it Unix and marketing it as such. (For example: "1-800-ITS-UNIX"):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories,_Inc._v._Berkeley_Software_Design,_Inc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars
starnamedstork@reddit
From my usage Slackware actually feels closer to BSDs than it does to other mainstream Linux distros.
lelddit97@reddit
One thing: Distrowatch means nothing, and MX Linux is under no circumstance the most popular distro. Not even close.
Slackware tho
OptimalAnywhere6282@reddit
To be honest, I have barely heard about MX Linux, at the point I still don't know what is it based on (sure, I could easily search it, but that's not the point); meanwhile, I heard about Linux Mint a lot.
lelddit97@reddit
linux mint, arch linux, fedora, ubuntu, rhel+derivatives (all of them individually), zorin, endeavouros, slackware, gentoo, even freebsd. just off the top of my head.
OptimalAnywhere6282@reddit
isn't EndeavourOS an Arch derivative? or did I miss something?
lelddit97@reddit
havent looked into it closely until now, but yes indeed.
you also forgot to pendant my listing of ubuntu as not a derivative of debian.
linux_rox@reddit
No you’re right, endeavour is based on arch, the kernel stack that got it started was from Antergos which was an arch based distro too.
Typeonetwork@reddit
Distrowatch only ranks by the number of users visiting the website. For the average user, systemd vs. sysvinit doesn't really come into play. I like both. Which one is better? Mint has less driver issues, but I haven't had a problem with MX Linux yet.
mad_mesa@reddit
Slackware
encee222@reddit
Softlanding Linux System. ... or Gentoo, its spiritual descendent.
DHOC_TAZH@reddit
No question. It's how I began my Linux journey in 1998, even managed to dual boot it with Windows 98! That took about a week to work properly.
daninet@reddit
When i was first looking for a distro and had no idea about anything one guy tried to convince me here on reddit that Slackware would be the best choice. Guess he meant learn to swim in deep water.
BertieBassetMI5Asset@reddit
There's a lot of people who think the best solution for newbies just wanting to learn a bit about Linux is to be forced to experience it in its absolute most obtuse and difficult forms, like someone taking their first driving lesson being taken to the Nurburgring and told to not dip below 100mph.
NPC-Number-9@reddit
Definitely Slackware. The unvarnished Linux experience.
HackedcliEntUser@reddit
"No dependency resolution? Just install all the dependencies!"
LxckyFox@reddit
can't compile dependency? build gcc first - lfs
Sirius707@reddit
"XYZ is bloat"
Meanwhile slackware:
tjddbwls@reddit
Ah, Slackware. The first distro I ever used at school. Slackware 4.0, I think. I don’t use it anymore, sadly - the last version I used was 13.37 (lol).
nuclearfall@reddit
Started with the 2 CD of 3.0. After a year or 2 I burnt Debiant because I liked package management…
/me shields himself from being stoned
poohthepirate@reddit
This is the answer, Slackware. The rest aren't close
shirotokov@reddit
all hail Slackware
Forty-Bot@reddit
slack off
asloan5@reddit
Came here to say the same thing
Successful-Funny2620@reddit
Never met a person that uses MX Linux
Pastoredbtwo@reddit
Hi.
MX user for 10 years, at least...
Successful-Funny2620@reddit
That makes 1
Pastoredbtwo@reddit
There are tens of us.
TENS!
Successful-Funny2620@reddit
I always see y'all hanging out at the top of the distrowatch page. I'll have to try it out sometime that I don't want to reinstall debian
Razzleswoop@reddit
Slackware or Crux
FarRepresentative601@reddit
I am new to this community, and if you ask me what stands out as *nixy in my experience so far, I would say minimalism, Terminal usage and Tiling Window Managers.
But at the same time I really value rock solid stability, so I would suggest Debian Stable with perhaps Hyperland or something.
xstreamcoder@reddit
Yesterday’s Linux today is maybe Arch or Endeavor OS or NixOS?
Today’s Linux? Fedora or Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
It really impresses me as a matter of perspective, based on experience. Some people use Debbie-based distros and never personally interact with a desktop like KDE.
Some people use fedora and never even try Ubuntu. Most people never install Linux without an installer anymore, but in the beginning, that was the only way you could when it was just Slackware.
Whatever happened to openSUSE?
linux_rox@reddit
OpenSUSE is still around, but they don’t meet the request of the OP as it uses systemd by default and I don’t know if you can change that on their system. Not that I can use it to find out, all I get are kernel panics after install on my system. Just bought it this year, every other distro I installed worked for a little bit then crashed. On endeavouros and it’s smooth sailing with no breakages or issues. And it’s nice and stable for me.
JayKaySwayDk@reddit
A very overlooked distro, that is very good for beginners is ZorinOS try it out, it is amazing.
JayKaySwayDk@reddit
Note! That the distrowatch ranking, is only ranking the the search popularity and not what people actually are using.
LaBofia@reddit
Bestie sll the way... bsd that is!
OnlyThePhantomKnows@reddit
Pick any distro, install twm on it and use that. tiny window manager will put you back to a 80s or 90s windowing system feel. It is also WAY faster than anything else.
dr_sheppard-ru@reddit
I think it's Chimera Linux. Look at this software stack: Linux kernel, musl with mimalloc, port of bsdutils, dinit instead of SystemD, build for any platform (I even saw a build from a member with libhybris that allows you to use it on Android)
Timo8188@reddit
Slackware probably but I still prefer Fedora :)
arrow__in__the__knee@reddit
Not a distro. But give freebsd with cde a try.
deja_geek@reddit
If you really want to get a feel for Unix, grab OpenIndiana. It’s a continuation of the Open Solaris project. Can’t get more UNIX than an actual UNIX.
dagbrown@reddit
Or OmniOS.
Although if you don’t like systemd, SMF is definitely going to be a rude shock.
Realistic_Bee_5230@reddit
i have been lookin into omni os, what is SMF?
dagbrown@reddit
It’s Solaris’s attempt at replacing init. Instead of TOML files for system units, it features a binary-sludge database which you feed with XML files. Which probably lets you know exactly when they invented it, during those weird few years when everyone wanted to do everything with XML.
TexticularTorsion@reddit
But it's ✨extensible✨! /s
Morphized@reddit
You can also get UnixWare, which is literal UNIX
deja_geek@reddit
Not going to pay for a license to something that is no more UNIX then OpenIndiana already is :)
markrinlondon@reddit
Tribblix.
CodeCompost@reddit
Looking at their website they seem to be an "illumos distribution". Seems that there are a bunch of distos fot illumos:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos#Distributions
deja_geek@reddit
Yep. illumos is basically the /src tree. They don't put out any install media. You can't install "illumos"
Pisnaz@reddit
Ohhh I was not tracking that thanks.
OcotilloWells@reddit
Me either. Open Solaris VM, here I come! I know. guy who used to be the president of a SLUG (Solaris Local User Group) in a large city. I wonder if he knows about this?
MarkoVDB_2K6@reddit
if you *really* want the traditional unix experience, use slackware. although i don't recommend it, since it's almost not being taken care of: no constant updates or anything. that's just me though. in slackware you build packages from scratch, and it uses sysvinit instead of systemd, too.
if you want to use something more modernized, and closer to BSDs (pure descendants of unix), use void linux. it's very minimalistic, uses runit like all bsds (and solaris), and is a very clean, transparent and straightforward system.
Hope this answered your questions, peace out! :-)
MarkoVDB_2K6@reddit
well you could also install fvwm, i think, for the graphical interface. it offers a similar experience to motif window manger / twm
xanadu33@reddit
The most *nixy Linux?
Chimra Linux of course: https://chimera-linux.org/
fozid@reddit
The most unix today would be a *BSD, the most linux would be any that dont come with a gui by default. Arch and Debian are the big ones. But you can make any *nix or *bsd feel like windows with enough effort.
_j7b@reddit
I've had to think about this but it was kind of fun to take a drive down memory lane. It's highly generational and subjective but thinking about it subjectively:
I think Gnome 2 (and probably Ubuntu around 10.04) was the most quint-essentially 'Linux' experience. It's a point where design cues from Mac and Windows were blended and enhanced by functionalities like Gnome Do (based on Quicksilver on Mac, apparently!) and Compiz took it to a whole other level.
Despite being derivative of Windows and Mac, I personally feel Gnome 2 took the experience so much further down their own path that it became a thing of itself.
Basing your experience with Linux solely on pop culture/media then you'd likely see any low-footprint twm like i3wm as the most linuxy linux to ever linux. That would be a valid argument, as would something like OpenBox.
Tiling window managers are a great extension from tiling terminal emulators.
OpenBox brought out the concept of not having bars top and bottom and made the desktop feel that little more open. It did strong encourage the use of it's cascading windows though as you had to right-click the desktop to open anything (without further modification).
Personally, Gnome 2 and OpenBox are what I believe are the most quintessentially "Linux" feels in my mind when I consider, objectively, how dissimilar they were to WIndows or Mac.
Morphized@reddit
There's also just running CDE or MWM, or even WindowMaker and GNUStep tools if you want
mwyvr@reddit
Mint is on WAY more desktops than MX. MX is only at the top due to tomfoolery.
Also: Distrowatch is not a reliable source of popularity.
What does that even mean? Every *nix is slightly different, but traditional UNIX and the BSD's are so-called "complete" operating systems by virtue of providing everything needed to boot the base OS.
This is unlike Linux which is a combination of the Linux kernel and a userland and other utils - most often GNU but on some, notably Alpine Linux (busybox) and Chimera Linux (FreeBSD userland) other non-GNU options.
But few run a base OS without other packages and here... Linux and *nix mostly converge. The universe of 30,000-50,000 software packages is largely the same on Linux and BSD and many are available on commercial UNIX too.
You can run GNOME on BSDs/Linux. You can run a window manager on any *nix.
Sure, BSD's have one way of starting services. Most of Linux did something quite similar to BSDs until
systemd
was adopted by most distributions; a smaller few, like Void Linux, eshew systemd for simpler init and supervisory systems.There are way more similarities than differences, so is your thread simply yet another "what are the non-systemd distros" thread?
Ketomatic@reddit
Great post. Do you know what tomfoolery caused mx Linux to be so high?
1369ic@reddit
The question ought to be "Do you know if tomfollery causee mx Linux to be so high?" You need to actually see solid evidence, and see where it came from and how it was gathered to know. Short of that, you can only believe. Nothing wrong with believing, it's just not knowing.
No-Childhood-853@reddit
It’s obvious based on actual users - never met someone using MX Linux - and that it’s not like distros report how many people are using them. All of them, including MX Linux are undercounted.
It’s not like MX Linux maintainers are being accused of the tomfoolery, but the results are meaningless. It’s entirely possible search indexers which trigger page views prefer MX Linux for some reason.
Morphized@reddit
I know that it did get a ton of external coverage a while back, and it didn't exactly have much of a web presence, so a lot of them probably linked to the DistroWatch page
1369ic@reddit
Fair. That said, your anecdotal evidence isn't any more persuasive than my anecdotal evidence or Distrowatch data. It's impossible to know, especially when folks like me keep one distro on one machine for years, but reinstall every once in a while to get that "clean install" feeling, while also hopping from distro to distro on a backup machine.
mwyvr@reddit
This.
VelvetElvis@reddit
The staff there all use it and write positive reviews. Most people who use it for a while agree that it's pretty nice.
mrzenwiz@reddit
I tried it and did not like it at all. Of course, I'm a huge Xubuntu fan, so.
VelvetElvis@reddit
I liked it fine until maybe 10.04 or 12.04. I don't remember. I went back to Debian.
thewrinklyninja@reddit
Agreed, literally never come across a single person that uses MX.
monochromaticflight@reddit
The thing about MX Linux is I think, together with a bunch of Debian-based distributions, it appeals to users who like to have a running functional system where things just work out of the box, without much setup required. So you won't see them raving about how exceptional or cool their system is, even if it's a good OS. I run it on my all general purpose machines.
At the same time, even Mint and the *buntus seem more popular choice when considering similar distros, so the top rank absulutely seems doubtful.
VelvetElvis@reddit
Hi.
It's basically what Ubuntu initially sought to be, Debian with lots of minor QoL improvements. It's really well thought out.
HotTakeGenerator_v5@reddit
i tried it once about six months ago with Plasma desktop. was pretty good. had a couple built in tools that let me easily setup a network share & something else, i don't remember.
but after a couple weeks the desktop became completely unresponsive to mouseclicks and keyboard shortcuts. booted into tty3 or whatever it's called and ran an update. no change. did a couple searches. turned up nothing. wiped it and went back to ol' reliable.
Runt1m3_@reddit
Same, i installed it last year and it became unstable after a week, like Firefox randomly crashed or the system froze after a few hours of uptime
Sucks since i used MX Linux 19 a few years ago and had a good experience, it was a bit ugly but it was a nice distro
sudogaeshi@reddit
I used it for 9 months or so, until I ran into problems with the shim for systemd for a non-in-repo proprietary program I needed. This was a number of years ago though
Drogoslaw_@reddit
Neither have I. The DiscoWatch "ranking" measures only the views of distro pages on their website. It's not any indicator of any kind of popularity.
enorbet@reddit
Twenty-four year Slackware user hear and tho I multiboot including other distros to stay knowledgeable, Slackware is my Main and has been for 22 of those 24 years. I'm running both Slackware 15.0 Official on one set of partitions and Current on another set to migrate stuff I want from Current to Official. Both presently use custom rolled 6.12.4 kernels.
When I started with Linux I was on IRC Linux channels and I asked the most potent guys I met what they recommended and Slackware was well over 70% of responses. The response most responsible for me trying it (and sticking with it 'cuz he didn't lie) when I asked "Why:" was "I dunno. Stuff just compiles right in it:" That told me it was vanilla in the best way and stable AF.
Overlord484@reddit
Headless Slackware :|
Dolapevich@reddit
That would be FreeBSD, instead of Linux.
dkonigs@reddit
The first time I installed FreeBSD, my impression was that "this is kinda like Slackware, but much better designed and implemented."
PhotonicEmission@reddit
Having used OpenBSD in some scientific equipment, I was surprised at the superior quality of the manpage documentation over the GNU tools. It's quite a bit more comprehensive and also lists frequently used arguments with examples.
dkonigs@reddit
FreeBSD is what happens when you try to make a platform easy to use, while assuming the user is a *nix savvy sysadmin type. Heck, within that specific user group, one could even argue its easier to use than Linux.
Dolapevich@reddit
I have to admit I haven't used it in roughly... 10 years. I understand they are having issues recruiting maintainers and people getting old.
But I used it a lot during the 2000 and when I started working on Solaris and HP-UX back in the EDS days I was glad I did, because while different they were much more similar to FreeBSD than linux.
MATHIS111111@reddit
I prefer a certain puffer fish over the devil.
mdins1980@reddit
Slackware is the only answer.
Richard_Masterson@reddit
GNU is Not Unix. If you want something that's really Unix, don't use the GNU operating system. You can use Alpine which uses the Linux kernel but isn't GNU or any of the BSD variants which are Unix clones.
Puzzled-Parfait-2771@reddit
Slackware. Overtime slackware has had improvements to it's core system to basically prevent users from making their own systems, but it still sits closer to the unix side. Also it depends on how far back you will go. Because modern BSD is one thing, but BSD 4.3 and such is a completely different ball game.
StoicLime@reddit
The most nixy Linux has to be NixOS.
I'll see myself out.
kudlitan@reddit
If I were (skilled enough) to make the most "nixy Linux distro, I would set only two, but two very difficult, criteria:
It should pass the UNIX compliance test, and
It should be fully POSIX compliant.
Passing these criteria would be very difficult but after that it would be the most *nixy Linux you can get.
P.S. I would not attempt to get UNIX certification, because that would cost money, but would be happy enough to be able to claim that I am just as Unixy as true Unices, for whatever reason. 😁
RegisteredJustToSay@reddit
I think this wins as the most technically accurate definition, but I feel like giving the full decision of what OS is the most UNIXy to two paid certifying bodies takes too much of what it's come to represent out of the hands of the community.
Nowadays the term is inextricably linked with LINUX, both libre and free software, and OSS, even though UNIX was originally a paid product.
RegisteredJustToSay@reddit
Slack or Arch, then I'll agree and say BSD although it's a copout since it's literally not *NIX. The general philosophy of minimal UNIX based OS and with composable tooling is best upheld by Slack and Arch IMHO.
Shout-out to embedded distros like busybox and Alpine too though, since they're extremely moddable and minimal. I don't think they quite compete with the aforementioned though because they're a bit less compatible with the general UNIX ecosystem of tools, but they're still up there.
oiledhairyfurryballs@reddit
Gnome is the least Windows like and unique desktop out there, while KDE being a copy of Windows 10
alt_and_f4_for_Admin@reddit
NixOs can’t get more nix than that ;)
Due_Feedback3838@reddit
Most of Linux has moved away from some standards and conventions, such as the use of separate folders/mount points for system, local, and optional software. gnu utils often differ from Unix standards, for example, vi (aliased to vim), sed, and make. Arguably this is a better user experience for people who don't have prior experience with other operating systems.
There wasn't a standard Unix GUI. SGI, Solaris, HPUX, and NeXT all had their own ideas about windowing AIs, some of which were copied and popularized in Windows and MacOS. If you want that feel, windowmaker, fvwm, a motif look-alike, and twm are available for linux (and some are still developed.)
Other people in this thread have good suggestions.
greysourcecode@reddit
I’m going to be a contrarian and say it’s actually openBSD, not any Linux distribution at all.
nuclearfall@reddit
BSD was also my answer initial thought, but if you have to choose a Linux flavor—as it’s stipulated in the question?
greysourcecode@reddit
Slackware is closest geologically, but I think LFS or Gentoo is probably the closest in use. Ultimately all distros are made up of legos and you mix and match. I think the whole distro argument is kinda stupid when you can change any distro to be like any other distro (but that’s a rant for another day).
nuclearfall@reddit
Also depends on how deeply you want to go into UNIX like. EulerOS is actually a certified UNIX based on RedHat
rust_trust_@reddit
Nix, obviously, the most nixy Linux is nix, it’s in the name itself
PurpleSparkles3200@reddit
None of them. If you want a proper UNIX exxperience, I suggest BSD or Solaris.
deja_geek@reddit
Linux From Scratch. Build everything from source, including GCC. Can’t get more Unix like then having to use another OS to compile your compiler
PhotonicEmission@reddit
If you want the truest experience, Unix was coded from scratch for a PDP-7.
deja_geek@reddit
True.. but trying to find a functioning PDP-7 is going to be hard
PhotonicEmission@reddit
Yeah, best I've seen is an FPGA recreation of a PDP-11, but UNIX system III does run on it!
starnamedstork@reddit
On http://www.nostalgiccomputing.org/index.html there is a number of old systems you can log in to remotely. One is a PDP11 with 2.11BSD UNIX.
Also pretty sure you can download and run 2.11BSD through SIMH. At least I have one running here. My copy even has one of Ken Thompsons chess programs on it.
spectrumero@reddit
Pretty sure SIMH (or another similar emulator) can be set up as a pdp7.
finse@reddit
You can emulate it, and in addition to running early unix, you can run other DEC OS: https://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-11
nuclearfall@reddit
BSD
NGRhodes@reddit
As a start Slackware is probably the closet.
In terms of a desktop, you could achieve the look and feel of a traditional Unix desktop using XFCE and using CDE or motif themes.
If you are trying to adhere to being most Unix-like, you should look at using a Windows manager such as Openbox or FVWM. You would need to add and configure launchers, panels, trays, file mangers and notification, not sure what the options are there.
ChillestKitten@reddit
Slack
daemonpenguin@reddit
Slackware, definitely. Void carries the same style, but with modern tools. Chimera Linux actually uses more Unix/BSD tools than most.
xPaJaCx@reddit
Remember one GNU; GNU Not Unix
Horror_Hippo_3438@reddit
Buildroot, if you don't take LFS into account.
kansetsupanikku@reddit
Working with Gentoo feels like thst st times.
Some distros come with side projects that are based on non-Linux kernel - which would probably miss the very point stated in the title of this post, but having userspace portable enough is a hint, I guess. I recall Debian, Gentoo and Arch playing with -kfreebsd, other *BSDs and Hurd.
Perhaps working with LFS can give you something akin to the most traditional *nixy experience? It catches the vibe, that's for sure.
On another hand, perhaps something like "Chimera Linux" would match the description even better. It's a literal nongnu/Linux! But the community is remarkably small, so it doesn't really provide the fantastic level of documentation and consistency of *BSDs - not yet.
For something slightly less hardcore and more popular, there is also Void Linux, which might come without glibc or systemd. I guess that's something.
Mind you, UNIX is a commercial term based on certification rather than sanity of setup. macOS is UNIX, meh as it is technically in my opinion. So my suggestions are just some intuitive rambling, but then again, so is your post.
lproven@reddit
Alpine Linux.
It's great. Tiny, very fast, and almost all the bloat that's in mainstream Linux is carefully removed.
A full fresh install is under 170 MB of disk and uses 60 MB of RAM. (Obviously that's with no GUI or anything else.)
No systemd, no vast flabby Electron apps, no Chrome, no Snap, no Flatpak.
It's a good stepping stone to leaving Linux behind and moving to FreeBSD or one of the other descendants of real UNIX.
john-jack-quotes-bot@reddit
If you want true Unix, it should get pointed out that FreeBSD is very much daily-driveable*
*without much gaming, and you can't use dotnet, also wifi has to run through a linux VM if you want more than 25mbps
Java_enjoyer07@reddit
Chimera Linux it is pretty much FreeBSD with Linux Kernel. FreeBSD being like the closest related to UNIX.
off_w0rld@reddit
CRUX. it comes with BSD-style init scripts and a ports tree. I appreciate the distribution for its simplicity and use it in favor of Slackware for being less bloated and their frontend for the ports tree handling package installation well (e. g. dependency resolution, package locking). Also, you can host your own ports collection on GitHub or anywhere and packaging is very easy and straightforward (Pkgfiles).
HomicidalTeddybear@reddit
Well I mean Gentoo's portage was directly inspired by freebsd's ports... and Slackware uses BSD's init system and scripts. Take your pick.
gabriel_3@reddit
The most Unix-like free and open source operating systems available are the BSDs.
Distrowatch ranking is based on the number of visits of the distrowatch page of the ranked distros and that page is available only if the distro asked for being on DW, therefore the ranking is meanigless. In addition to that the information on the distrowatch page uses to be outdated, incomplete or wrong.
DimestoreProstitute@reddit
Install simh and use UNIX32V, hard to get much more *nixy than that
_Giffoni_@reddit
Void, Gentoo, anything without SystemD is kinda halfway there. Alpine, Chimera...
Metamorphic-Roc@reddit
Slackware or Gentoo for the most unixy Linux. Any of the the bsds for pure unix experience.
konsolebox@reddit
Slackware and LFS for me. But the BSDs are the more UNIXy candidates.
aqjo@reddit
Venix
LordAlfredo@reddit
Either Linux From Scratch or Bedrock Linux.
Spruce_Rosin@reddit
I don’t know if there is ONE Linux experience. Linux just happens to not be windows. Just because windows does its thing the opposite of all of Linux, doesn’t mean there is one opposition to windows
Successful_Good_4126@reddit
If you must stick with Linux— Void. Else use a BSD or something similar.
EugeneNine@reddit
Slackware. I was surprised when I got a job in enterprise and saw solaris and how similar it was.
SmokinTuna@reddit
This post is extremely embarrassing, I highly recommend deleting it
itastesok@reddit
Considering the conversation that it has created, that recommendation should be ignored./
shooter556001@reddit
Mint doesn’t support my usb wifi by default. MX ahs supported by default, so I use MX.
i-heart-linux@reddit
Fedora
biggle-tiddie@reddit
Good answer, as a very long time user
Jeb19780101@reddit
Gentoo with xmonad or any other keyboard based window manager.
noby2@reddit
Traditional Unix doesn't have a keyboard driven GUI, that's a very modern thing. Keyboard shortcuts in the GUI only get in the way of terminal applications. You had virtual terminals though, with X running in one of them
Lazy-Term9899@reddit
Alpine (musl and busybox) Chimera Linux (FreeBSD userspace)
monkeynator@reddit
Don't know what you mean with "Windows-like", you mean that doesn't come preinstalled with a GUI? And with no systemd?
If you're willing to waste countless hours: gentoo (as you can pretty much setup gentoo however you please, you could just get all the unix or *BSD userland tools and try and compile it on Gentoo).
Although I've heard that Musl is more closer to POSIX than what glibc is, so if you count that as POSIX I guess Alpine would be the best fit.
thewrinklyninja@reddit
I really enjoyed using Gentoo for a while to get that closer to the metal feel. Learned a lot about compiling as well.
VelvetElvis@reddit
Slackware and Crux.
onceuponalilykiss@reddit
I dunno about traditional Unix, but the most stereotypically Unix in like... general mentality is probably NixOS lol.
Jward92@reddit
NixOS is functionally so much different under the hood than to the status quo Linux distro I would very much disagree with you.
onceuponalilykiss@reddit
Right, but the mentality of "I'm doing something completely different that most people will never be able to take advantage of" fits the Unix community stereotype perfectly.
xplosm@reddit
Or anything POSIX for that matter.
MatchingTurret@reddit
Most Unix®-Like Engineered Linux Distributions
marrsd@reddit
The GUI was always pretty diverse, but I suppose X11 + Motif would be pretty traditional :)
One of the things I miss about Linux is the diversity of WMs. I used Fluxbox for a while back in the day and I found it to be a genuinely powerful WM. I was always surprised that its features weren't more widely replicated.
These days I stick with a tiling WM, but back when I was into photography, nothing beat Fluxbox + GIMP.
elatllat@reddit
Arch, Fedora, Debian, and Suse are the popular non-derivitave options.
But I'd say the most *nixy thing is all the options.