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Ok_Armadillo_9454@reddit

So then the cashier loses their minimum wage job for a few bucks? Nah

False_Disaster_1254@reddit

ha!

very very similar story.

i bought a couple of beers, handed the landlord a ten and he gave me about £8 change.

i looked at him and said 'Arthur, you sure that's right?"

he took a quick look, said "oh, im sorry" and gave me another 2 quid.

oh well. i tried.

closed my hand, pocketed the change and enjoyed my free beer.

We have "sweepstakes parlors" in my state. Ostensibly for coffee and internet (really for gambling)

A person doesn't have to gamble Parlors provide free coffee and internet for as long as a person wants, In hopes the person gambles.

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CoffeeGhost31@reddit

I had a similar thing happen recently with a $100 bill. Total was like 82 dollars and the dude gave me a 20. I also being an upstanding citizen told him " that doesn't seem right" obviously knowing it wasn't. He then proceeded to do what I assume to be math in his head and handed me the 20 and 8 dollars. I also decided that I didn't want to teach math that day.

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suavestallion@reddit

This unethical because you're not stealing from the business, you're stealing from.the cashier. They are given $500 in cash, and at the end of the shift, they're supposed to have (cash + cash from sales). If they are short, the business doesn't know if they stole or not, so they usually have to pay out of their own wages.

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DaedricApple@reddit

Oh really, do you have a source for that?

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suavestallion@reddit

1 - use your brain for one second to think about it. Else, what stops cashiers from just stealing every shift.

2 - user to be a cashier you miserable loser

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DaedricApple@reddit

else, what stops cashiers from stealing every shift

I don’t know, the threat of termination mixed with legal action?

I also used to be a cashier, and I never once had to pay out of pocket for a short drawer. I am pretty sure that is illegal.

I worked for Wendy's back in the day and a guy came up to order like a small hamburger but asked to pay 80$ and asked if I could make change.

I'm pretty good at mental math so when I'm counting his change back he interrupts me mid count and says UH NO THATS WRONG YOU OWE ME ANOTHER 20

I was like buddy you gave me 80, this costs 2.50 so you're getting 77.50 back and he's like NO YOURE TRYING TO RIP ME OFF WHERE IS YOUR MANAGER

My manager overhears and comes over and says oh sorry about that sir and hands him another 20$. I was like uhhhhh ok, talked to her about how he was trying to shortchange me and she said oh it'll be fine you probably miscounted happens all the time.

Lo and behold my till was 20$ short at the end of the night and I got written up by the night manager because of it. Lol idiots man

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Aggressica@reddit

What the FUCK

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BioSafetyLevel0@reddit

This is cruel.

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henryeaterofpies@reddit

A lifetime ago when I worked retail pur Asset Protection trained our cashiers to just go super slow when people started being squirrely with change and unless they were sure enough they'd bet their own $20 call a manager, who would count down the drawer and compare it to the totals to see if anything was over. While they were doing that AP would be checking the tapes and calling their cop buddies to see if it was a known quick change artist.

Waste enough of their time without payoff and they'll stop coming and tell their friends it isn't worth it and to hit another store. Surprisingly it works for 6 months at a time until cashiers get complacent and you have to train again.

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JRockPSU@reddit

I worked retail a long time ago and we were taught in these situations to stop, give the customer back their original $80 (in this case), and then just start over. They get you by doing exactly that, creating a back and forth exchange of money multiple times to confuse you.

Nah, back when I used to work retail in 2016 at a big box store, my official position was a cashier. I was never trained on this. They only made me go through orientation on company policy, had me shadow one of the cashiers, then threw me into the wolves without someone else shadowing me. If I needed help, I would ring over the supervisor. I was trained on the go like processing checks or checking counterfeit bills, but never on “claiming short”.

First time when a customer gave me a bill and I needed to give them $12.14, I freaked out and gave them 2 five dollar bills, 2 one dollar bills, and 14 pennies lol.

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okokfra@reddit

Am I missing something? Aren’t you supposed to give 2 five dollar bills, 2 one dollar bills and 14 pennies?

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i_suckatjavascript@reddit

The change is correct, but the point is that I could’ve gave them a higher denomination.

One 10 dollar bill, two 2 dollar bill, one dime, and four pennies.

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Grubs01@reddit

And you’d have given them $2 too much

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nicknacpaddywac@reddit

I think maybe most of the time you'd give them a dime and 4 pennies or 2 nickels and 4 pennies. But otherwise seems right.

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MercyRoseLiddell@reddit

I currently work retail. This wasn’t part of my training, but I now train new hires on how to do this.

I had someone try the short change thing on me but I knew how many 20s I had started out with. We’re only supposed to keep 5-6 20s in the drawer at a time, so I had just put the extras in a box. He bought something small with a 100 and asked for a different 20 when I gave him his change. Speaking very little/very bad English the whole time. Then tried to keep hold of a 20 when I counted out his change again. I knew I was supposed to have a 20 left. I did not. So I plucked the missing 20 out of his hands and he said never mind, just cancel the purchase. So I gave him his original 100 back and did a return.

Some of the smarter kids up front realized our POS didn’t ring up comps correctly, so they could enter in a full order and comp it which opened the register.

They give change, pocket the money during shift change and no one is wise to the issue.

I do not miss retail one bit

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SuckingOnChileanDogs@reddit

I was doing a pizza delivery one time and this guy definitely tried to scam me by getting tricky with the cash being like "oh can I give you this and you give me back this" but kept changing it up and I was keeping track of it and he wasn't and he ended up accidentally giving me a $20 tip and smirked as he was closing the door thinking he fucked me over lol

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positionofthestar@reddit

Might have been counterfeit $20

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-GlitterGoblin-@reddit

We called it quick change where I lived/worked back in the day. We trained our cashiers to just close the till and call for help.

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MonthPurple3620@reddit

Best way.

“Im sorry sir/maam I think Ive lost track. Let me get my manager to count out my till so we can make sure you get accurate change.”

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MonthPurple3620@reddit

“Quick change” was what we called it

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Okay you’ve clearly never worked as a cashier just trying to make it through your shift.

Stop messing with the person at the bottom of the totem poll.

Depending on the place they would give the employee an automatic write up and if it’s the second time they could be fired.

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SnooSnooSnuSnu@reddit

You’d be surprised how many times it works.

Never,

2 tens and 2 fives big guy, that was the tip. Which is 30 bucks…

I've seen shit like his work. This is one of the basic types of scams taught specifically because it does work. And while awareness can help, it still happens way too often. It's a variant of a quick change scam.

That being said, there's also a chance they might let you go and then file a report with your description and a time stamp depending on the rules of the company. And if you've ever paid with a card or you come in later and pay with a card, they'll have your information. So you "get away with it" at the cost of being watched every time you enter the store from then on.

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SnooSnooSnuSnu@reddit

They've since replied that their "tip" is based on seeing it work one time.

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SubsequentNebula@reddit

Well, at least they aren't the ones to have done it.

"I'd be happy to tell you all about it Officer Friendly. But first can you break a $20 bill? Kinda in a hurry."

Full disclosure: I saw this unfold in front of me years ago when a friend asked for the change from a cashier. I know him. It was an innocent mistake. The cashier complied. When she handed over the $30, he realized his mistake and corrected it. So, a sample size of 1 with 100% success.

People on this sub have noted that this is not only unethical, but also shitty and illegal. No argument here. I felt this sub is the best landing spot for this suggestion. This is definitely a "punching down" ULPT. It would be so much more palatable with there wasn't an innocent victim involved, but I didn't come here to judge.

As for the illegality. It is at least an attempt to defraud or commit petty theft. I have my thoughts on how you can avoid being charged or convicted of this offense, but that is beyond the scope of this post.

And if you're buying let's say $200 worth of coins, let's say for 20 bucks shipping

$7.00 (one quarter)

$8, $9, $10 (one dollar, one dollar, one dollar)

$20 (ten dollars)

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paperthintrash@reddit

Can’t banks pursue you after the matter? Where does the 100$ come from? Whats the legality grey area.

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camelz4@reddit

I messed up once as a teller and gave someone $100 more than I should have. We just reversed and redid the transaction for the correct amount without him there.

I…….don’t think that person is cut out for the job 😂

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unknown_pigeon@reddit

I'm a cashier at a local fair once a year, for like three days.

Having experienced being a cashier for those few days, I always give back the change if they mistakenly give me more. Cashiers already get a ton of shit on a daily basis, I don't want to be part of the reason why they'll get reprimanded by their boss

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IWannaGoFast00@reddit

I had a buddy in high school that would do this on purpose for his friends. Come in and buy $16 in gas with a $20, then he would count back 1,2,3,4 but hand us four $5 bills instead of four $1 bills. His draw would be off a little at the end of the night but not enough to get him in trouble. This was when $16 in gas would get you half a tank of gas.

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xiknowiknowx@reddit

ULPT Reverse uno: be the cashier shorting the customer. Bypass the visual cash countback. Rinse and repeat. Remove profit when you balance.

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xiknowiknowx@reddit

Lmao. This would throw me

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AC_Slaughter@reddit

When Staples stopped taking coins in their copiers, they made me buy a prepaid copy card. I gave the guy 75¢, made the copies and when the machine showed money remaining, I had $74.50 left.

I used that copy card to photocopy course kits when I got to university, ultimately graduating as a teacher. I also used that copy card to photocopy flyers for my ex boyfriend's band, which got me to a concert where I met the friend that suggested we travel to Brazil... in Brazil I met the friend who invited me to visit California where I decided I was going to live one day... Which I now do.

wedditwardrobe@reddit

Scummy shit. It comes out of the workers pocket.

First time that happened I had a grown ass man do that to me when I was 15 working in fast food. Gave me a 20 or 50 and then when I was giving change he wanted certain bills, and wanted to break another bill he had. The guy was being really chaotic, animated, telling me how much total he’s given me now, and being fast about it all and I was so nervous and confused and he made me feel like I was stupid for not keeping up with his antics. I don’t even remember if my manager came up or if I lost money and then realized what happened. Wasn’t the last time some shit like that happened while working!

Film it too cause Id love to see the judges laughter.

Kwaliakwa@reddit

This is not a victimless crime, so definitely unethical.

While the company can usually handle the loss(please don’t do this at a mom and pop shop), a lowly cashier will be the one that has to answer for it.

I am 39 and still vividly remember over twenty years ago, when I worked as a cashier at AMC theaters and somehow came up $20 short and it was a bigger deal than I’d have expected, that left me being scrutinized as the thief.

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SpecificLiterature43@reddit

That’s not enough money to do worth it

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sdrawkcabineter@reddit

I have a variation that works more consistently:

You break a $20 bill with a cashier, ask for 1 ten and 2 fives.

This is a shit tip, just straight up theft. I know it's ULPT but it doesn't mean we have to be straight up scumbags.

Hope the cashier finds you and slips you a piss disc.

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feltsandwich@reddit

I suppose "unethical life tips" are sometimes "running a short con."

Not just unethical, you're an asshole to run a con on people.

Is your next tip to pretend to romance an old woman to con her out of her money? Is your next step to tell a stranger you're a Nigerian prince and you need money to access your fortune?

What a loser. You ought to feel ashamed. Gross.

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The_Triagnaloid@reddit

All you’re doing is getting a poor person fired so you can make a free bucks.

Fuck you.

We’re in a class war, don’t attack your fellow poors.

Fuck you

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campbellm@reddit

We had a server give us the amount of our meal as change instead of the change (so he gave us way too much money back), just yesterday.

He was busy so we just went to the counter with the cashier and explained what happened.

It's a local family restaurant and I don't want those kids getting shat upon for having their till not balance at the end of their shift.

Not in the spirit of the sub, I know.

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vlegolas1982@reddit

Can I have two tens for a five?

Alright alright! Quit crying! Here's your five! Now gimme back my two tens

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MyPlantsEatBugs@reddit

Eventually cashiers will be fully replaced by computers and security.

And the world will be better for it.

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DrivingTacks@reddit

I’ve done a 10, two 5’s, and five 1’s a few times.

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SignificantTwister@reddit

Somebody tried this on me once when I was a cashier at a grocery store. He asked for a 10, a 5, and fifteen 1s. He claimed he was joking when I called him on it.

This is AWFUL.

>plain wrong and evil

The movie “Paper Moon” (1973) included a con something like this.

God I’m old.

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Suspicious_Kale44@reddit

Guys try this all the time. Friend of mine who works/manages a gas station has a novel way to deal with it. Once the person attempts the "short change scam," she has them count it out in front of her on the counter. She then tells them she is going to count it on the counter to verify. Once she has the cash in hand, she places it in a deposit envelope and writes "scammer" and the time of day (to match to video footage) and drops it in the safe. Then she calls the police.

Most of these folks are no-goods, and they either have warrants or they are holding narcotics. The vast majority of these people leave before the cops arrive, and at the end of the night, Tonya gets a tip. And when they decide to stay and wait, Tonya has to give them their correct change, but the cops get to note that so-and-so is scamming again. She also watched a guy who tried to scam her out of $7 go to jail for a bench warrant that turned into resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.

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Dahmer_disciple@reddit

Yeah, I don’t know about this, but what does work is:

“Hey, crazy question. Do you have two $20’s for a $10?”

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Bleak_Squirrel_1666@reddit

"Hey can you let me borrow $87?"

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strangelove4564@reddit

A couple of counterfeiters made a mistake one time and ended up with a batch of $15 bills. One of them says "We gotta get rid of these things. We'll go to Florida. I know a little town there. They're so dumb they won't know a thing."

So off they go. Soon they arrive at a gas station and buy some gas. The guy at the counter looks a little simpleminded.

"Hey can you break a 15 dollar bill for me," one of them says.

"Oh, sure, no problem," the cashier says. The counterfeiters grin at each other.

"I told you," the one whispers to the other, and they fist bump.

I kept sitting them, and then suddenly it flashed into my head that I said 6 - $20 instead of 5 - $20. I hit the call button and asked if I really asked for change in the wrong amount. She said yes and I apologized for like a minute and said I meant only 5 - $20.

this is called quick change. yes its a thing and most big box stores will try to train their cashiers to slow down and think.

source: did loss prevention for 5 years and had to watch cameras/train cashiers to spot this shit

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