Why is it acceptable for horses poo to not be cleared up, but not acceptable at all for dog poo to not be cleared up? r/AskUK on the streets of London

[-]

BecomeCarbonNegative@reddit

Couldn’t fit horse poo in the little bag

[-]

Round_Caregiver2380@reddit

In some countries horses have catch bags on the back to catch all the poo.

[-]

carntfarkface@reddit

I thought everyone used these until I came to this Reddit whole bored at the ED hahah

[-]

I'm never convinced about the "horse poo isn't actually poisonous" argument, I don't care if it is or isn't, I wasn't planning on having some for lunch. I wouldn't drop a bottle or a crisp wrapper on the floor and then justify it by saying that it's not poisonous so it doesn't matter.

The "well it's hard to get off your horse and pick it up" argument doesn't hold that much weight either as, unless it's your job, you'd have made a conscious decision to own the horse, a conscious decision to ride the horse, and a conscious decision to go to the place where the horse decided to defecate. If you can't safely get off the horse for 30 seconds to pick it up then the horse should not be in that environment.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

Ok so you get off the horse. The horse then needs stand still unattended in amongst traffic as you need both hands to shovel up its poop. Cars, buses, pedestrians all around it and its got to stand like a robot and not flinch whilst you turn your attention to clean up. Horses can absolutely be trained to do that but does it sound the safest options? What about young horses? How do you get them used to that without training them in that situation? Then what do you do with the kgs of crap? Try and find a bin? With horse in tow? Cos you might struggle getting back on your horse with one hand and an bag full of horse crap.

Riders dont want to be on roads. Its lack of options that makes it a necessary evil except for working horses.

[-]

carntfarkface@reddit

Put it in some bushes, move it off the road or bike track or pedestrian walkway. It isn't that hard. Crikey. Have a whinge. If you can afford a horse move their huge pile of shit out of my son's face and direct line on a designated bike riding trail. BOOOO lazy arses

[-]

Tetracropolis@reddit

Why do we need horses on roads?

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

Again. Unless its police horses or some Queens horses nonsense, no one wants their horses on roads. No one.

[-]

Tetracropolis@reddit

No, I mean why do we as a society want horses on roads in cities.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

As in police horses? Try a google and find out.

[-]

Tetracropolis@reddit

No, the public interest reason for police horses is obvious. I mean why do we need civilians riding around cities on horses crapping everywhere.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

I'm going to say it again... we don't. They don't want to. They just have no choice. Also, it's not really a huge issue is it, except for police horses how many civilians on horses do you see riding through your local city on a daily basis?

[-]

aiwg@reddit

They just have no choice.

They chose to buy a horse despite the fact that they live in a urban area.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

Again how many people do you regularly see riding their horses through your city?

[-]

aiwg@reddit

A lot during summer. They often block footpaths by traveling slower than people walking (or stopping to have conversations on their horses) and not leaving enough space for people to get through, then get all grumpy when you try to get past.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

It seems you might want to write to your local council and ask for the bridleways in your area to be looked at, Im sure your local horse riders would be thrilled and happy to add their names to your petition. A common goal as it were.

[-]

aiwg@reddit

I'm talking about footpaths, not bridleways. Horses aren't even supposed to be there, but they don't care and act entitled to get in everyone's way.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

Well then feel free to report them if it is indeed a public footpath and not a multi-access path.

'Act entitled' - 😂

[-]

aiwg@reddit

'Act entitled' - 😂

Yeah. Rolling your eyes at people trying to get through, while you block the path to have a conversation on your horse is pretty entitled.

Reporting them won't do anything and they know it.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

So there are some rude people out there, doesnt mean you need to tar everyone with the same brush. Your complaint is not horses being in cities its horses illegally on footpaths. These are not the same.

[-]

carntfarkface@reddit

My five year old son faceplanted into horse poo on the great Southern rail trail in Victoria today as the pile knocked him off his bike coming around a declining bend. He and I were not so happy that some prick Didn't bother to at least scatter their horses poo onto the side of the trail. As a horse rider myself it is not difficult to use a bag for their droppings, it doesn't impede the horse and common courtesy to scatter it in the bushes away from public spaces people use alot. We used to scatter it at the very least if we had no bag in trafficked areas. I am sitting in hospital right now with my son very pissed off so their is my two cents. Clean up your horse shit you lazy arseholes 😂😂😂

[-]

beppebz@reddit

If you are from the countryside then you genuinely would not care about a bit of horse shit on the road every so often. I imagine most of these complaints come from people that move to the country as from cities / towns and then also complain about tractors harvesting and church bells ringing

[-]

herefromthere@reddit

A bottle or a crisp packet don't disintegrate in a few days. Dog shit hangs around longer too, it's stickier.

[-]

MurderousButterfly@reddit

This is my feeling, too

[-]

BestKeptInTheDark@reddit

Plus when they are in a fancy patade they have the opposite of 'feed bags' on... Maybe they would be too small for a whole day though..

[-]

SecurityTemporary849@reddit

Put dog shit in your garden and see how your garden grows.

[-]

Balls_R@reddit

What actually happens?

[-]

-mmmusic-@reddit

horse poo makes good fertilizer because they eat mostly grass, dog poo does not because they eat mostly meat

[-]

EventualOutcome@reddit

Whos says Im not trying to grow meat?

[-]

Playful_Stuff_5451@reddit

Then you'd use viagra instead of dog shit.

[-]

Ankh4921@reddit

🤣

[-]

MadamKitsune@reddit

In that case hand lotion would probably work better, but if dog poo is your thing then... ewww!

[-]

Consistent_Rich_153@reddit

I live in a rural area and people sell horse poo for this reason.

[-]

Cool-Caterpillar-630@reddit

Great for growing grapes

[-]

QAnonomnomnom@reddit

Bullshit

[-]

Middle--Earth@reddit

Horse shit is better

[-]

motific@reddit

That’s pretty good too.

[-]

Cool-Caterpillar-630@reddit

I wasn’t lying,I used some when I was growing grapes 😂

[-]

MikhailxReign@reddit

Does pretty well. You can buy a specific type of microb to add to you compost pile that will break down dog turds.

[-]

wales-bloke@reddit

Alright Mary Mary

No need to be so contrary

[-]

jeremyascot@reddit

Oh, I do, I do

Dirty boy

[-]

CharringtonCross@reddit

Lots of reasons. We don’t have too many horses walking around on the pavements here. And dog shit really stinks.

[-]

Consistent_Rich_153@reddit

I live in a rural area and you'd be surprised how much horse poo there is in the streets.

[-]

xp3ayk@reddit

But it's not on the pavement and so it's not at rusk of being stepped in

[-]

Consistent_Rich_153@reddit

Not quite. While we do have pavements in many areas, there are quite a few villages that are pretty historic with no pathways. There's just a road. Moreover, there are many trails and trailways which are used as paths, and these are covered in horse poo.

[-]

Fucklebrother@reddit

And?

[-]

CharringtonCross@reddit

Oh I know what it can be like. Just never really bothered me anywhere near as much as dog shit on the pavement.

[-]

MrBrainsFabbots@reddit

Horse poo should be cleaned up, but t I would personally argue that horse poo isn't really dirty. I hate picking up dog shit (With a bag over my hand of course) but am not fussed at all when I have to finger a bit of horse shit out from underneath the gates when mucking out. In my mind it's just brown grass.

[-]

Dont_trust_royalmail@reddit

i would pay you good money for a bag of horse poo.
dog poo, not so much

[-]

SamVimesBootTheory@reddit

Dog poo is more of a health hazard than horse poo as horses are herbivores which is part of the reason

[-]

zCoxxy@reddit

I get that but end of the day if your animal walks around the street shiting everywhere, I feel you should kind of pick it up despite how health hazardous it is, especially if it’s the size of horse shit

[-]

Ankh4921@reddit

Can you imagine the size of the horse poo bag, and having to carry it around if it doesn’t in the bin? 😂😂

[-]

zCoxxy@reddit

Whoever is on the horse made a decision to own the horse, made a decision to walk the horse on public streets. You should clean up the shit on public streets inconvenience argument doesn’t really matter.

[-]

Ankh4921@reddit

Agreed - I am definitely FOR people picking up their pet’s 💩. I’m just having a good laugh picturing it for a horse. 🤣

[-]

THX39652@reddit

They used to have a nappy like attachment to catch it. However as stated previously there are no health risks with horse poo, unlike cats and dogs. Which is why you have to pick up dog poo.

[-]

Splodge89@reddit

There may be fewer (not no) health risks to horse poo, I still don’t want to track it into my car/house if I get it on my shoes though.

[-]

THX39652@reddit

Really? What would they be?

[-]

Splodge89@reddit

lol. I grew up in the middle of nowhere. With horsey family also in the same house.

[-]

mandvanwyk@reddit

I think they’ll have hose nappies on Temu?

[-]

3_box@reddit

There are special bags that attach to the back of the saddle (I assume) that hang under a horse's tail to collect poo. I've seen them used on horse-drawn vehicles.

They're quite clever and very effective. I wonder why they aren't compulsory.....🤔

[-]

cherrypez123@reddit

Horse poo Backpack? 😂

[-]

Ankh4921@reddit

OMG! That is so gross… and so funny! 🤣🤣🤣

[-]

Maximum-County-1061@reddit

what about my vegan dog?

[-]

TokerSmurf@reddit

Won't be able to shit anyway, problem solved

[-]

No-Beat2678@reddit

I'm vegan can I shit where I like?

[-]

FlapjackAndFuckers@reddit

Please for anyone else... Don't do this.

[-]

Twisted-Lemur@reddit

Classic vegan

[-]

Lewis19962010@reddit

As long as you can do it without indecently exposing yourself yes

[-]

Pingushagger@reddit

That’s one way to stop people calling my skirt gay

[-]

GloomyStick@reddit

Horses can still have parasites though..

[-]

Smooth-Purchase1175@reddit

Now that's horseshit. :)

[-]

hmgr@reddit

The other thing as well 8nbsome countries horses are considered working animals, so they are allowed.

[-]

WhiskyMatelot@reddit

As well as the fact that dog poo contains meat and is hazardous to health whereas horse poo is vegetation and not particularly hazardous, there’s also the practical element of it being easy for a dog walker to stoop down and pick it up ( not that you’d know if from some of the disgusting people round by me!) whereas dismounting, holding the horse, scooping into a very large bag, and then remounting the horse might be a wee bit tricky.

[-]

Substantial_Fox_6721@reddit

I accept the health issues you've mentioned, but inconvenience shouldn't play into it.

[-]

Reasonable-Horse1552@reddit

It's not inconvenience, its safety. I'm sure you saw those loose horses galloping through London a few months ago...that would be happening all the time if people were expected to carry a shovel and plastic bag around and get off their horse to pick up their droppings every time. And horse poo isn't a health hazard in any way.

[-]

Lord0fPotatoes@reddit

Why not use horse poo catchers?

[-]

elliebow713@reddit

Highly impractical and pretty impossible to use when riding. The movement of the horse would be greatly restricted, and besides that, many horses would not tolerate something being strapped to them like that.

[-]

AnselaJonla@reddit

Yep there's a reason they're typically seen on carriage/draft horses, rather than riding horses.

[-]

Current-Wasabi9975@reddit

I wondered this too after seeing them on horses in Brugge.

[-]

Substantial_Fox_6721@reddit

Still seems mad to me. If something is so dangerous that you can't clean up it's shit, then perhaps it's too dangerous to be on a road in the first place?

I actually don't really care or mind the horse poo issue if I'm honest, I just can't stand the mental gymnastics people go through.

[-]

No_Investigator9059@reddit

When the government is getting rid of bridleways and public access, a lot of riders have no choice to be on roads even if its to get from one bridleway to another. Do you think if they had a choice they'd rather be hacking through parkland or woods or risking their lives and their horses lives on a road?

(Working animals such as those with police are obviously there for a reason on roads and in very busy public places, which is a different conversation of course)

[-]

mrpimplesquirter@reddit

I am a vegan with a bad back, I will now use this argument in an unrelated court case involving public indecency.

[-]

miowiamagrapegod@reddit

Can we.... not post this kind of utter spam

[-]

Buffsteve24@reddit

City of York Council once wanted the horses who pulled the carriages in the city centre to wear nappies...

[-]

Reasonable-Horse1552@reddit

Not nappies, its basically a cloth that sits underneath their tail attached to the traces of the carriage. I'm assuming there are a lot of horses in a city centre, which would cause a large build up. The odd bit of horse poo from a couple of riding horses is a bit different.

[-]

Buffsteve24@reddit

referred to as dung catchers in this article, I can't actually believe it was 21 years ago!!

[-]

Appropriate-Bad-9379@reddit

They do use them in Blackpool though, for the carriage horse on the promenade…

[-]

toonlass91@reddit

Judging by where I live, I must be one of the only people who picks it up. Loads around my way leave it lying

[-]

chalkhomunculus@reddit

are we talking horse or dog here?

[-]

toonlass91@reddit

Dogs. Always pick up after mine but the amount I have to dodge while out is ridiculous

[-]

Character_Arachnid65@reddit

Posh people have horses, poor people don’t….I imagine that has something to do with it 🤣

[-]

AlphaScar@reddit

Horse poop is great for gardening. Our local zoo even sells lion shit. Never put it on my roses but it scares the shit out of the local cats. I haven’t seen one cat shit in my garden since. Highly recommend.

[-]

JaquieF@reddit

Some people used to shovel up horse poo to put in their gardens.

[-]

Cam_Sco@reddit

Horse poop isn't actually as safe as you think as the horses are usually on industrial strength worming and other medication. Other animals come along and eat it, then OD on the medication. One of my dogs is a devotee of eating and rolling in horse muck.

[-]

elliebow713@reddit

Horse medication such as wormers is a once off, maybe once or twice a year. And your dog would have to have the opportunity to eat a date quantity before it does any damage.

Also, I feel like dog owners should not let their dogs freely eat horse manure lmao

[-]

_Nette_@reddit

it took genuinely about 3 seconds for my dog to shovel probably two big mouthfuls of horse crap into his gob. most owners don't let their dogs eat manure. it's unfortunately his passion 😕

[-]

Markmark1974@reddit

Because horse poo is lovely

[-]

Swimming_Possible_68@reddit

Probably because there are far, far more dogs pooing in the UK than horses.

Even on public bridleways it's pretty unusual to come across horses, the amount of horse poo you encounter in day to day life is an absolute fraction of that produced by dogs.

I grew up in rural England in the 80s. In the time when people didn't clear up after their dogs, and white dog poo was a thing. It was also a village where horse riding was far more common than in urban environments, so seeing people riding horses was relatively commonplace.

How many times did I step in dog shit? Loads, countless times, and it's disgusting, hard to remove and it stinks.

How many times did I step in horse manure? Never. And even if I did, due to their diet it is a very different consistency and aroma...

I did, however, once experience a nearly unfortunate event riding my bike as a boy, coming up behind some horse riders just as one of the horses decided it was time to release its load... Just missed me fortunately, but had it not that would not have been pleasant!

[-]

ItzMidnightGacha@reddit

Uh- i honestly don’t know…

[-]

juanito_f90@reddit

Horse manure doesn’t cause blindness.

[-]

rinkydinkmink@reddit

this is the correct answer, it seems most people online these days aren't old enough to remember that this was in fact the reason why leaving dog poo lying around was banned in the first place

[-]

eleanor_dashwood@reddit

As a woman in her mid-thirties, I was unaware of this. It’s just one data-point but it supports your theory.

[-]

juanito_f90@reddit

I bet they don’t remember white dog shit either!

[-]

aldomacd1987@reddit

Finally can get shitfaced without having to worry about blindness

[-]

Cam_Sco@reddit

If the horse is on ivermectin, and a dog ingests horse manure, it can cause blindness and death of the dog. Lovely. Of course, it also cures covid according the donald.

[-]

D0wnInAlbion@reddit

Dogs aren't as important as people.

[-]

saladinzero@reddit

How did my cat get a reddit account?

[-]

loquaciousofbored@reddit

I think it goes back to olden times when only fancy people could afford horses.

[-]

icemonsoon@reddit

Yeah and cats why is it socially acceptable to let your cat shit everywhere

[-]

GInTheorem@reddit

I am a big fan of the 'it's so tourists can follow the trail to find a policeman' answer.

[-]

barbaric-sodium@reddit

I think you will find that when a horse shits on the street in any town the gardeners will be out with their brush and pan to pick it up pretty quickly

[-]

elethiomel_was_kind@reddit

Estimate number of dogs in the UK: 12-13million

Estimate number of horses in the UK: 1 million

rural/urban ratio of dogs: 30% (4 mil) : 70% (8.5 mil)

rural/urban ration of horses: 20% (0.2 mil) : 80% (0.8 mil).

What a non-issue. Pick up that stinky dog shite, and please don't hang it in trees like grim baubles!

[-]

Dave_Unknown@reddit

Average horse 💩 per day: 15kg Average dog 💩 per day: 0.34kg

It takes 44 dogs to produce the same amount as horses. Yet you say there’s only 12 times more dogs…

[-]

elethiomel_was_kind@reddit

Meh…. it’s not a useful comparison. Dogs almost exclusively use our streets as a toilet once or twice each day (if they’re luck dogs) and are omnivorous. Horses are herbivores which crap all day long - almost exclusively in a field.

[-]

MikhailxReign@reddit

Still alot of horse shit tho.

[-]

antlered-godi@reddit

Dogs are meat eaters and so dog poo carries far more harmful bacteria.

[-]

Twisted-Lemur@reddit

Because horse owners are posh

[-]

DrySlap@reddit

100 times yes! Dog poo really upsets everyone but huge piles of horse poo fine apparently. Not for me!

[-]

Spare_Tyre1212@reddit

Iirc there was an issue in the nineteenth century in NYC when the streets were literally feet deep in horseshit. No doubt London and other large cities were exactly the same.

[-]

personlolfoot@reddit

Horses take very large poops

[-]

VillageHorse@reddit

The day that dog shit is highly coveted and sold by the bag-load is the day this discussion can even begin to start.

Until then, you either know the difference or you are a maniac and putting dog shit on your tomatoes.

[-]

oliviaxlow@reddit

Because horses consume plant matter. Dogs consume meat. One is much more of a health hazard.

[-]

geishagirl257@reddit

If horses were shitting in the middle of pavements like dogs then people would have more of an issue with it.

[-]

Otherwise-Milk-3509@reddit

My grandad would put the horse poo in his garden. Good for the flowers he said.

[-]

Middle--Earth@reddit

Because it's free fertilizer and soil organic matter improver.

Normally you'd have to buy the stuff.

Nobody is going to queue up to buy dog shite.

[-]

rinkydinkmink@reddit

All correct except for the last part - it's long gone culturally, but used to be used in, I believe, fulling or dyeing? Something like that. Or maybe it was phosphorous extraction. Anyway people used to go around and collect it and actually pay people for it. Not a fun job. I know urine was collected since Roman times for fulling.

[-]

Middle--Earth@reddit

I'm not sure what fulling is, but I know that the Romans used urine for doing their laundry because the ammonia content was a good cleaner.

I think that dog poop nowadays isn't much good for anything because of modern dog feed content and bacteria, but I could be mistaken there.

[-]

JohnCasey3306@reddit

"nobody puts dog shit on the roses"

[-]

Disastrous-Pepper391@reddit

Horse poo is veggie based. Good for the envelope. Dog/cat poo is meat based. Not good for environment.

[-]

No-Beat2678@reddit

If I'm vegan can I shit where I want

[-]

rinkydinkmink@reddit

I know you're being facetious but actually the answer is no, due to to do with human digestion and our bacterial flora. I'm not an expert but there is actually a bona fide answer to this and that answer is "hell no".

[-]

Roper1537@reddit

Horse farts are excellent whereas dog farts are always fucking rank

[-]

herefromthere@reddit

Propellant maybe.

[-]

RonBonxious@reddit

Why is it not unacceptable for people to allow their domestic pet cats to shit in gardens around the neighbourhood?

[-]

rinkydinkmink@reddit

their poop doesn't have the parasites that can make children go blind, basically

[-]

chalkhomunculus@reddit

i mean, that would require following your cat into gardens around the neighborhood. i'd rather cat shit than a random human with a shit shovel in my garden, not that i'm advocating for more cat shit in gardens. i keep my cats indoors

[-]

spaceshipcommander@reddit

Because rich people own horses and poor people don't. Pretty much the answer.

[-]

Matterbox@reddit

Horse poo is just chewed up grass.

Dog crap is rotting processed meat etc, and stinks.

If you think horse crap is a bit messy, drive round the countryside for a bit, there’s cow shit everywhere.

[-]

No-Beat2678@reddit

I'm vegan can I shit in the street then?

[-]

Matterbox@reddit

Yeah sure.

[-]

Mistress_Ploppy@reddit

Not that old (horse) chestnut

[-]

EvilTaffyapple@reddit

I’m guessing because dogs generally eat man-made food items, which don’t decompose as well as natural foods that horses eat.

[-]

eerst@reddit

No. It's meat versus veg.

[-]

EvilTaffyapple@reddit

Not all dogs eat meat, or even wet food.

[-]

lemon-fizz@reddit

Because anyone who forces their dog to be a vegetarian is a moron. People feel pretty strongly about that so the downvotes aren’t weird at all.

[-]

EvilTaffyapple@reddit

Who said anything about being a vegetarian?

I said they may not be fed meat. I buy my dogs dry food which aren’t meat based. I’m not suggesting you turn your dog vegan ffs.

[-]

lemon-fizz@reddit

“Not all dogs eat meat” implies that the dogs you are referencing are on a vegetarian or vegan diet does it not? Hence why everyone is downvoting you. You’re the one not grasping what you’re putting across.

“I buy my dogs dry food which isn’t meat based”

I don’t know what you’d call that then ^ jfc lol. Are you ok?

[-]

EvilTaffyapple@reddit

Mate what the hell are you on about? I typed in plain English:

not all dogs can eat meat. My wife runs a dog rescue and two in at the moment are intolerant to raw and cooked meat
not all dogs eat meat. This can either be because they have a diet of non-meat based foods, or their owners cannot afford to feed them meat

I’m not sure why you couldn’t understand a basic statement that was both factually true and nuanced at the same time, but here we are.

I’m not even sure what your last sentence means. I said I buy my dogs dry food and you say “I don’t know what you’d call that then”…it’s rice and wheat based with oils and proteins. What is that but “not meat”?

[-]

-mmmusic-@reddit

well, they should.

[-]

eerst@reddit

Wet/dry doesn't matter. And yes most dog food is primarily animal products.

[-]

shortercrust@reddit

I got sheep shit on my walking jeans a few weeks ago. Still haven’t washed them. Not that bothered. If I’d got the same quantity of dog shit on them I might have just binned them. One is mildly yucky, the other is disgustingly repellent and I think that’s more biological than cultural.

[-]

tayviewrun@reddit

The chances on me walking along a pavement and accidentally standing in horse sit is almost zero

[-]

Lower_Palpitation_82@reddit

Heard some people put horse poo on their rhubarb, we have custard on ours.

[-]

SadAnnah13@reddit

This is a hill that I am willing to die on. Not much pisses me off more than being out and about in my wheelchair, and not being able to get along a road, because there are multiple piles of horse poo blocking the way. Why don't horse riders stop once they realise the horse is pooing? Even that would be better, so that it would all be in one place, but no they continue walking for several metres and make it impossible to get through.

Fortunately I live in a town now, rather than the middle of nowhere, so it's rare to see horse poo on the roads, but I still think it's unacceptable to leave massive piles of it everywhere. Of course they're not going to pick it up, I mentioned it to a horsey friend once and she said getting off the horse and picking it up would be difficult. I'm sure they could invent some telescopic handled poo picker lol.

[-]

vmeldrew2001@reddit

I don't see why some sort of container couldn't be fashioned to capture the horse poo that is attached to the back of the saddle or something. All of the 'engineering' that has gone into making the saddle, reins, styrups, etc, something could be created, if anyone gave enough of a shit about it. Pun intended.

[-]

elliebow713@reddit

Horses are living animals, it's not just a case of strapping something to their backside and calling it a day, horses are flighty and 99% of them would not tolerate something like that.

There are a fair few devices that catch the manure, but again, horses are living animals and do not like something that could restrict their movement, as well as spook them.

[-]

Key-Twist596@reddit

Two reasons.

Dig poo is hazardous to health and horse poo isn't as horses don't eat meat.
It's impractical and potentially dangerous for a horse rider to get off a horse to collect the poo. Most horses wouldn't accept a bag tied to their behinds to catch the poo, so that's not an option.

[-]

Please kindly delete and re-submit your post with more content in the body providing more background, context, or information about your question.

If you think this was in error, then click here to message a mod and we will review your post.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.