Anon loves voting

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Anon loves voting

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Remarkable_Hotel1984@reddit

Anon it was over the second they nominated Harris, trump becomes prime lebron the second his opponent is a woman.

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

Because Kamal totally has no relations to the elite

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redbloodywedding@reddit

Lol yeah that's the insane part. We've scyopped people into thinking Kamala has zero ties to big power meanwhile Trump who is being attacked from all sides is somehow part of the group of people who are trying to literally kill him.

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Ffkratom15@reddit

Right, if the elite wanted him in office they wouldn't spend every second attacking him

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Reesetopher@reddit

Attacking him? I had to watch the richest man in the world jump around like a little girl because he wanted more tax cuts?

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alurbase@reddit

Richest on paper. You think the actual rich report their shit? LMAO. Elon is just not in the club so he gets the title for most autistic high value person.

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IrregularrAF@reddit

Yeah, I think the guy who put hundreds of satellites in our orbit for internet and has thousands if not millions of active vehicles with his logo on it isn't just the richest on paper.

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Several_Reading4143@reddit

Because wealth can only exist if it's a material asset with your name on the front. Jesus Christ this is the average leftist.

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IrregularrAF@reddit

Wealth is best represented through assets. So duh. A big number doesn't mean shit if there's nothing tangible to it.

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Several_Reading4143@reddit

You missed the key point of "name on the front". Try again.

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IrregularrAF@reddit

and a big number don't mean shit without tangible proof as said before

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Several_Reading4143@reddit

The proof is out there. It's just not in the form of slapping your name on everything. It's in investments. No offence, but how old are you?

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IrregularrAF@reddit

Elon Musk has no investments?

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Several_Reading4143@reddit

Well it's up to you what to believe, you're fine to think it's Elon as the richest. I just want to copy this comment down here for anyone to read. "People treat this like some kind of conspiracy theory but it's really not. Their family controlled many of the largest banks in Europe for 200 years and therefore had a huge amount of influence. The value of money was pretty much determined by how much gold was in a certain country so they would just move money around to change the value of currencies any way they saw fit. After a couple of hundred years the name just sort of died out and were not a major banking power any more, but consider this: For 100 years ships filled with gold would travel between europe and the US in order to manipulate the value of each currency. On each trip up to a ton of gold would go missing. Do you really think the most powerful people in the world would just let a 1 ton gold theft go unpunished? They would have owned every police department in the world at that point (meaning they had the power to bribe anyone). They mostly invented many of the financial instruments in use today and essentially built the entire system of transferring money between banks. I think they know where the gold went, billions upon billions over the years must have made their way into all kinds of different accounts where money could be moved without people noticing. There must be ways of hiding money that are so complicated it would take two years just to explain it and you still wouldn't understand. It would be more surprising if they *didn't* still control a vast amount of wealth and have influence over the entire financial system given that they controlled the entire system. Also people don't tend to like the idea that powerful people are running everything, but think about it. If you were a super wealthy person, what would you want above all else? To live! At the very least they don't want the world to enter nuclear winter. If you had all the money in the world, the most valuable thing you could buy is the ability to phone all the commanders in the world with nuclear launch codes and be able to say, "Sir, I have it on good authority that this is a false alarm." A global dynasty controlling the world is actually a good thing."

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

> he hasn't heard about the Rothschilds > not included in Forbes' richest because they purposefully exclude nobility for no reason other than to avoid the trouble with dictators and kings, and showing all Rothschilds on top 1 through 9

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TheSenCtizer@reddit

Sadly only few people are this enlightened on who are really in charge and why they dgaf who wins. "Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes its laws" -an old Rothschild quote. Coincidently, guess which people are in charge of most of the western central banks.

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

You’re funny. Rich people try to hide it until a point. Then they’re so rich it’s either impossible to hide or there is no purpose. That being said I would be happy to see a counterexample

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Nice changing the goalpost, bud. So now Elon isn't "really" the richest man in the world because he's on Trump's team. And Miriam Adelson and all the other billionaires actually don't have a lot of money. No, the secretly richest man in the world is actually George Soros

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MaiMaiTouch@reddit

Does this argument somehow change if you say "top 10 richest"? Do you think your meme gotcha tangibly changes if he's not **THE** "richest"? Surely the crux of your disagreement isn't schizophrenically hinging on "🤓👆Acthually GOD is the *richest man*"

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Purp13H4z3@reddit

And you know everything abut that club, im sure of it Its all a big fucking circus, likes it matters whos president, they will answere to the money and thats it

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Elon is special

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Ottoblock@reddit

The left loved Elon Musk for years, Green energy, they drive his car, they rooted for spaceX and the tunnel shit. I'm not sure exactly when it was, maybe it was starlink? I dont know why, but it was before he bought X that they all turned on him. I'm not sure what he did, but they went from calling him tony stark to a newzie. Oh I think maybe it was an off-color joke about some guy in a cave? Is that when they all sold their teslas? I don't particularly care about him, but if he can cut some waste out of the bureaucracy I don't think it will be a bad thing.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

> The left loved Elon Musk for years Debatable. Just because he used to try to push for electric cars doesn't mean "the left" loved him. If you think CNN and MSNBC are "the left", I got a bridge to sell you. Just because they don't want gay and trans people to die, doesn't mean that they're "left". The media mostly hyped him up, because they love that corporate bullshit story of having a "tech genius". Ever since Steve Jobs, they've loved to run with that narrative. > I dont know why, but it was before he bought X that they all turned on him First of all, no he was also hated before that. But do you think purchasing a website that was beloved by its community and then destroying the one aspect that was probably the biggest fan favorite (the verification system) wasn't a reason for all the shit he gets? Dude started with "I'm against censorship", but now he censors on behalf of his own ideology and also on behalf of quasi-fascist government regimes, like India or Turkey. You don't think that had anything to do with it? He published the Twitter Files, which showed the opposite of what he was claiming. They showed that the Trump administration (the government) issued a request for censorship because they didn't like the contents of the post. And that the Biden campaign (not the government) issued a request for something that was already against Twitter's ToS (revenge porn) to be taken down. > but if he can cut some waste out of the bureaucracy People who think "cutting bureaucracy" or regulations is a good thing and the solution to anything, are pea-brained idiots. There is a reason why every regulation exists. If you think certain regulations or bureaucratic procedures are problematic, we can discuss that. But saying "the problem is we got too much bureaucracy" is like saying "we got too many laws". The only reason Elon and the others are saying that, is because they want to create more opportunities for corruption. They're literally talking about cutting the CFPB - the objectively best agency in terms of how much it helps the American people and puts money back into their pockets that corporate scumbags stole from them. It's an agency that enforces laws and looks after people who have been wronged. And they want to cut that. Why? Because they don't work on behalf of the people - they work on behalf of corporations.

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

Musk got a son brainwashed by the juice media and transtrendering, started speaking out, wokegards all of a sudden started calling him evil because he didn't buy the whole package deal which includes troons, pedo shit etc. and he stopped being agreeable and became based.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

If Elon can market electric cars smartly, that is to stop trying too much. He can simply make cars similar to the ones that are being sold right now, but electric and be successful. I feel the reason people are hesitant to electric cars is that these cars stand out in terms of looks. Look like a fucking clown car

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Charbus@reddit

The entire product line besides the cybertruck looks super generic imo. You basically get a Mazda 3 from a decade ago, a super fat Mazda 3 from 10 years ago, or basically a BMW 5 series from 10 years ago. They look like wojaks head in white and like 60% are in white it feels like.

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Charbus@reddit

For me it was when he promised the Tesla Roadster and it never came out. He’s like 5 years late on it. Also there were trapped divers or something and Elon said he had a super secret submarine, nobody wanted to use experimental technology in such a time critical situation so he cried and then called the leader of the rescue team a pdf. He’s an odd fella.

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AntiProtonBoy@reddit

they had sex

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didnt_read_the_title@reddit

We support LGBT when it's rich men consensually loving each other. It's a beautiful thing when giant brands merge in holy matrimony

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

Who are the elite? It isn’t Hollywood

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

The people paying for the political campaigns, meeting at Davos and Bilderberg, running banks and investment funds that own and control every big company, engineering every bubble, skyrocketing housing prices and telling you to rent ze pod, eat ze bugs, share ze car, wear ze mask, install ze app, support our greatest ally, own nozink and be happy. They will own everything and be even happier.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

So “ze” ones trump gave massive tax cuts to and said he will do it again? Yeah keep telling me the “elites” don’t want him.

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

Where did I say Trump didn't work for the establishment? He's just 5% less aligned and makes blue haired femcels, white knights, smooth brained zoomerd and general leftgards seethe, that's the main advantage of voting for him. But the globalist agenda is there and he will MIGA.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

What a fucking idiot dude. “I voted for this guy cause it makes other people mad!”

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

I'm glad it's working even after the vote.

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Ffkratom15@reddit

They own Hollywood. It's a very small portion.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

So who are they? What elite don’t want trump? You know, the guy Who gave billionaires a massive tax cut.

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Ffkratom15@reddit

Not people you'll find on the Forbes list bud

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

So you have no idea what you are talking about. Ok

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Ffkratom15@reddit

I do but what you want me to do sit here all day and spoon feed you information like you're in fucking kindergarten? I have work, college, training, I can't sit here terminally online all day and help you. Help yourself you sad, lazy sack of shit.

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ImprovisedLeaflet@reddit

Are you aware of the many billionaires that stanned for Trump? And that they did it because it’ll benefit them financially much more than any Democratic administration? Goddamn yall are dumb

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AC3R665@reddit

More billionaires and corporations wanted Kamala over Trump. You're just grasping at straws. You can easily find say, list of celebrity endorsements and can contrast that list with Trump's endorsement. It pales in comparison. Also Trump got ~300 million for his campaign while Kamala got 1.4 BILLION. She had way more special interest money.

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KrugerMedusa@reddit

Are you aware of the majority of rich people who were in favor of Kamala?

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Source?

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KrugerMedusa@reddit

This whole election-cycle, where the Harris coalition was basically entirely upper-class and the rich, while Trump got the working-class. The fact that the establishment hates Trump and loves Kamala. The news doing everything in their power to lift Kamala up and bring Trump down. Need more?

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Do you understand what a source is? You just claimed something. Then in your next message, you claim a bunch of other things to support your first claim

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

People making the most money in society tend to be the most educated and therefore vote democrat. This is not a rebuttal to the point that most of the mega-wealthy prefer the Republican Party due to tax breaks.

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CaptainTenneal@reddit

You guys are never going to win an election again if you keep calling everyone besides yourself and your party members stupid.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Hey buddy, read my comment again. Never called you stupid, you did it yourself

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CaptainTenneal@reddit

I know youre not talking to me directly, but you should probably stop talking shit and being so pretentious regardless of self-reflection.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Why? You misrepresented my comment entirely and I corrected you. If you can’t handle being called “buddy” in the 4chan subreddit you need to grow some thicker skin, lil bro

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CaptainTenneal@reddit

Haha- Merely pointing out what your comment implies, you big ol' 🚬

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Does my comment imply that? I don’t think it does. I merely pointed out the equivalence of education and democratic voters… don’t let your feelings get in the way of the facts

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assistantprofessor@reddit

You say that billionaires support Trump, he says no the billionaires support Harris, then you say that of course they do, since they are rich they are also well educated, educated people support democrats obviously.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

No dude that’s just not what I said at all lmfao. I can break it down for you > people making the most money in society tend to be the most educated and therefore vote democrat These are two indisputable facts. Education correlates with income and also correlates with voting Democrat. Do you disagree? > most of the mega-wealthy prefer the Republican Party due to tax breaks I suppose this is disputable however it would be hard to argue against this. What is indisputable is that the Republican Party is easier on billionaire’s wallets, and billionaires like money. You are conflating “people making the most money in society” and “mega-wealthy,” which are two different things both in my comment (as evidenced by me saying the first group votes D and the second R) and in real life. “People making the most money in society” refers to the average well-off person, while “mega-wealthy” refers to billionaires.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Yes, higher education does relate with higher percentage of voting for democrats. I'll have to disagree on republicans being the party of the mega wealthy tho. You talk as if democrats are somehow against tax breaks. Is it not true that mega wealthy Donan Trump and Elon Musk both used to be democrats ? Both parties are up for sale, these two gentlemen just so happened to purchase the republican party. Look at this election , look at the endorsements. Think again who the mega wealthy support. You'll realise that Republican party is the one for the poor and struggling working class people, while democratic party is for the elite and upper middle class.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

I do agree that both parties cater to billionaires - obviously, they have a lot of power. However only Rs actively give them tax cuts each presidency. I don’t know what Elon/Trump being former Ds has to do with anything. Both parties got dozens of billionaire endorsements so I’m not sure what you mean by “look at the endorsements.”

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LevSmash@reddit

I'll give you that you didn't specifically say that, but your angle is condescending. You implied formal education level equates to intelligence and linked that to voting preference, then suggested the person who disagreed you didn't comprehend you. Those are little moves to try and subtly claim the intellectual high ground.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

> you implied formal education level equates to intelligence I did not. > you suggested the person who disagreed with you didn’t comprehend you Correct, he didn’t

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assistantprofessor@reddit

>i did not You did, idk why you're denying it. It is a fact, people without a college degree vote for republicans more than people with a bachelor's or more.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Yes bro that’s exactly what I said 😂😂😂 just as your comment doesn’t imply republicans are stupid, neither does mine

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Those emojis certainly do imply that you are stupid and perhaps a bit fruity as well

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ProstheTec@reddit

Education ≠ intelligence

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Don’t worry I never said otherwise. Thanks for the laugh

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Bloodiedscythe@reddit

Bro is neither educated nor intelligent so he took it personally

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Andthentherewasblue@reddit

Billionaires have usually donated to both parties, betting on both, they people taking it will still be on the hook for next time when the billionaire comes asking for favours in a few years time

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Nolegsmacgee@reddit

Larry fink supported trump lmao

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tracenator03@reddit

Bro every billionaire excitedly congratulated Trump for his win election night. Even fucking Tim Cook. They were always going to win no matter what the result was. Americans are braindead if they think voting will fix this issue.

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Calm-Technology7351@reddit

Agreed. We need ranked choice voting asap to break up the two party system

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InquisitorMeow@reddit

Lol there is not near enough gender reassignment surgeries for it to be any significant part of healthcare revenue.

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DrDMango@reddit

Scyopped

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Mrhood714@reddit

Dawg at the very least Kamala wasn't having Elon make fake organizations and increase more bloat in the government. Did you all already forget it's small government we want not expanded government by the corporate class.

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Sharky-Li@reddit

You do realize the point of that organization is to cut the fat you're literally complaining about. Maybe it'll fail but if he can achieve even a fraction of what he did with Twitter it could make a difference. Either way it's better than letting things go on as usual.

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SINGULARITY1312@reddit

No it’s to cut social programs and pretend it’s for what you think it’s for.

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Sharky-Li@reddit

Nobody really knows what will happen until they do anything, or don't, but either way it's being talked about.

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SINGULARITY1312@reddit

Lol I do, because I pay basic attention to politics

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redbloodywedding@reddit

Lol remember when these midwits said Twitter was going to go bankrupt and stop functioning because Elon fired everyone? Now it's operating at such high efficiency at what 1/10th of the team and the press conveniently forgot that they said this. I know people say that humans have less attention span then a goldfish but I really think it should be adjusted for liberals. The amount of fucking stories that have been proven wrong whether it's ivermectin, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and Twitter gaslighting yeah eventually people who aren't automatons and can think for themselves catch on to bullshit.

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Mrhood714@reddit

You do realize their already existing institutions that do this inside of government, wouldn't it make sense to use those then to create more bloat?

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Sharky-Li@reddit

How have they done so far? What matters is results and if anything it's only gotten worse.

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tracenator03@reddit

You say this but it's hilarious to see Trump supporters unironically think Trump is any less supported by the establishment than Kamala is. If you think either Dems or Republicans are anti establishment then you are completely delusional. I was going to be disappointed regardless who won because the wealthy elite always wins elections. It's American tradition at this point. This country has been bought out decades ago and voting won't do anything to change it.

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Zachmorris4184@reddit

Imagine being a liberal and going right because obama was too far left. Bruh, he expanded bush’s wars and bailed out Wall Street. There’s no left wing in US politics. Even “radical” bernie sanders is a moderate center left politician.

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redbloodywedding@reddit

Lol nice try. The overton window has shifted so far left you're going to argue Bernie is center left. Yes my issue with Obama was that he was a neo-liberal war hawk that expanded the bush wars. Meanwhile Trump was the first fucking president in my entire lifetime to attempt to end wars and after bungling it with Afghanistant Biden decided to stir the pot into 2 seperate wars at the same fucking time. Just on war alone I voted for Trump. Let alone the countless other issues liberals lost the narrative on.

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Organic-Walk5873@reddit

Trumps foreign policy was full of fuck ups. You could argue him moving the US embassy to Jerusalem fucked up the middle east even more. He abandoned allies like the Kurds and barks like a dog for Putin. You idiots actually believe everything Fox News tells you it's disgusting

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Zachmorris4184@reddit

The overton window doesnt have anything to do with the entire spectrum of political views that exist within the world. Bernie Sanders is center left you look outside of US politics.

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Higuos@reddit

How many gender reassignment surgeries are performed annually?

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evangelism2@reddit

>the Democratic party is so fucking busy defending men who want to chop their dicks off to actually run the country because the republican party has blown up a topic that affects less than 5% of the population into a major nationwide talking point that people like yourself have been duped into giving a shit enough about to vote for them as they fuck you over harder and faster than the other side would

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pVom@reddit

>because the republican party has blown up a topic that affects less than 5% of the population into a major nationwide talking point That's what pisses me off the most. If there's one thing the right has been good at its dictating the conversation. They don't want us talking about public investment and creating economic opportunities, they want us talking about gender politics and other bullshit. They painted the choice as either you support giving kids gender reassignment surgery in school or you support more trickle down economics

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namjeef@reddit

If they wanted to kill him they would have detained him in Guantanamo for the classified documents and made him swing like the Rosenburgs

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lolzerdidoodle@reddit

Implying voting for trump wasn't also a psyop. We, the American people, got butt fucked by rich people to vote one of two evils. The poor people fight the wars of the rich people.

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mortgagepants@reddit

who do you think you are? if a goddamn american wants to chop his dick off, nobody wants to hear your bigoted ass complain about it. and i hate to tell you, but in this country hospitals ripping people off for money is responsible for 1 out of every 6 dollars of GDP. so unless you're a fucking communist, american hospitals are in the business of making money. you're not a disaffected liberal, you want to fuck the economy and fuck over everyone's rights because you're scared to admit you like femboys.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Well I'm not happy with the services the hospitals are providing especially for the price but the government essentially has outlawed any competition.

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mortgagepants@reddit

lol okay i'll bite- how has the government outlawed hospital competition?

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Overregulation just like with everything else they destroyed.

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mortgagepants@reddit

eh- that's not a real answer. healthcare is not something you can have ayn rand laissez-faire her way out of.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

You can literally apply that to every single industry. This is where we went wrong as a country, believing that some industries need to be regulated more than others. Let the hospitals compete and let the customers decide which level of price to quality ratio they are truly comfortable with.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

price to quality "shopping" is irrelevant to hospitals. Nobody is going to an emergency room and then while shrieking in pain, comparing the price of an appendectomy in a hospital 5 miles away with the one they're in now.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Most hospital visits do not involve the emergency room.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

What??? That's completely incorrect. Every hospital visit starts from the emergency room unless it's an elective procedure.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

I've been once to the hospital emergency room to stitch me up, but I've been to non emergency rooms to run tests, see specialists and my GP dozens of times.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

A GP is not a hospital lmao. It's a clinic.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

My GP is in a hospital

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Jewronimoses@reddit

Irrelevant. Doesn't matter where the clinic is.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Hospital = a building the heals people.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

With this logic you're clearly not a physician

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

https://www.britannica.com/science/hospital

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Jewronimoses@reddit

yea you're not a physician. you literally no understanding of what I'm trying to teach you.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Your services are not needed

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mortgagepants@reddit

no. even in this over-regulated regime you claim we're living in, people were using talcum powder that caused cancer. how much cheaper should cancer powder cost? this is just a bad idea encourage by rich people who do a lot of polluting, and you're just a mouthpiece for them.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Fly to India, especially for any serious surgery. Your doctors are Jewish or Indian anyway, plus you can live a luxury life for about a year and get top tier medical treatment for how much the co-pay is in America. Wild how currency exchange is so op

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

See this guy gets it, just like how we can't deport all the illegals because that will also wreck the economy because we absolutely cannot survive without their slave labor in the farming and manufacturing industries.

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mortgagepants@reddit

they're going to try and do that in cities and it will raise wages and lower rents. business owners are going to be upset when there is no one around to exploit but they will blame it on hunter and kamala's demonic relationship ruining the economy.

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

>raise wages and lower rents. #HA No Absolutely nothing is going to do that. Nothing's going to lower prices, nothing's going to raise wages and nothing's going to lower rent. Nothing short of direct market regulation. But everyone pisses their pants and terror over that for absolutely no reason Like it's not doing wonders elsewhere. You know why? Because they don't have to. The free market only works if people are willing to compete with each other. But if all the landlords in an area agree to keep rent high then rent will remain high. Yeah that's illegal, but when does that matter? Power companies do it, internet service providers do it, water companies do it. Everyone that provides an essential resource does it. Hell grocery stores have been doing it for the past 4 years. Every business has. I work in pool construction and I can confirm that there is absolutely no reason for the prices of materials to be as high as they are but they have not gone down since the COVID boom. It's because people who sell this crap realize they can get away with selling it at an absorbently high price and then reporting record profits so why on earth would they lower their prices when everyone is still buying And they are still making money? Wages going up maybe the only thing you have a point on and that's still a big maybe. Ask for everything else, the only way that's going to go down is if the people who set those prices stop making as much money and they have to lower the prices to bring in new customers. But until that happens there are never going to go down. As long as they keep making record profits those prices are never going to go down. Not unless someone makes them lower them.

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i_hate_scp@reddit

You're right, but you writing "absorbently" instead of "exorbitantly" made me laugh.

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mortgagepants@reddit

i said raise wages and lower rents. the rental market in a medium sized city is not the same as a swimming pool supply store. it is much more fragmented. when tariffs go in place and wages go up, you will see more rooms for rent, while rental houses that used to be occupied by spanish speaking families are empty. also, there will be fewer people doing labor, which will raise wages. i really doubt that will lower prices at all.

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

Pool supply stores ain't got nothing to do with it. I build fresh pools in three different cities, often on new construction homes. I know what I'm talking about. And well yes, it is technically fragmented, all they have to do is base their pricing off the guy pricing the highest in an area. If a guy selling a studio apartment can sell it to someone for $3,000 a month then everyone else who has a studio apartment of comparable size is going to try to do the same maybe within a few hundred bucks. As long as there are people paying for bullshit then more bullshit is going to be sold and that leaves everyone else stuck forced to pay because there are no other options. Not to mention the housing market is a whole other beast separate from rent. Housing isn't going to go down because that isn't even an immigrants thing, that's a city zoning and economic thing. Because as long as cities are allowed to bar the construction of certain housing in certain areas and limit the amount of housing that can be built in a year then we're always going to have problems with housing. As long as companies end individuals are allowed to buy homes and just shit on them or do nothing but rent them out on top of the zoning then we're always going to have a problem.

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mortgagepants@reddit

i will take you word for it about the pool business but please take a second to look at specifically what i am saying and why: cost of labor will go up. rent costs will go down. the specific examples you cite are specific, but since we will so rental demand going lower due to deportations and demand increasing for labor that is the general trend in the numbers we will see. yes i'm sure you will see one apartment rent for more than another, especially in desirable areas in desirable cities. but as an overall trend, this is what we will see.

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born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit

If farmers can’t pay their pickers a slave wage the whole system falls apart!

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proud_traveler@reddit

One of the big reasons Kamala lost was everyone is so fed up with that kinda shit. People fully understand what she is and who she really serves. If the Dems want to win ever again they need to actually pay attention to what their base wants. Fat chance of tha thappening tho. The reality is the Dems exist so that there is no space for an actual counter to the republicans

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Kitahara_Kazusa1@reddit

The issue is that the moderate Republicans and the Trump Republicans will pretty much all still vote Republican in any given election. The Democrats who like Biden and the Democrats who like Bernie are much less willing to vote for each other. There's not any one individual who can unify them, maybe 4 more years of Trump will do it, but as long as the Democrats remain divided and the Republicans remain unified the Republicans will have a massive advantage

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CervixAssassin@reddit

It's no one's fault dems are bitchy like highschool girl gang.

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Kitahara_Kazusa1@reddit

Leftist infighting is always a constant, it's not unique to Democrats. The right can always unify with their moderates to get things done, but the left hardly ever can.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

>There's not any one individual who can unify them, maybe 4 more years of Trump will do it Nope. A lot of Bernie stans were anti-establishment more than they were pro-liberal/progressivism. The moment they saw Bernie get fucked by the DNC they switched hard for Trump. I would know, because I'm one of them. So I think this past election cycle just helped more independents realize their lack of party affiliation. If Democrats win next election it will be because Republicans already got what they wanted and aren't motivated to vote. I don't think there will be an increase in voter turn out.

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

Dude I’m not even a democrat and it’s sad how bad they fucked Bernie over TWO elections in a row. That was wild.

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NerdOctopus@reddit

>A lot of Bernie stans were anti-establishment more than they were pro-liberal/progressivism. The moment they saw Bernie get fucked by the DNC they switched hard for Trump I don't think this is representative of most former Bernie supporters.

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Ottoblock@reddit

The Democrat party did everything they could to keep bernie from winning the primary, I'm not sure you're gonna just get his supporters back. It doesn't really matter anyway, we all know its the "end of democracy" now that trump won, don't we? The left can fight to try to require a college education to vote, and then they'll win. Its the most democratic way.

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

Democrats: *picks a highly unpopular candidate who literally dropped out of the last election, shoves her word salads down everyone throats, says the economy is great, pays huge sums of money to random rappers and singers to perform at the convention as if that will help them connect with the youth, argues for literally everything people DONT care about and for nothing people actually care about* Democrats when they lose: “Nah it was our voter’s fault we lost.” It’s wild how much they pinned that piss poor campaigning on their voter base when they shot themselves in the foot from the beginning.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

So you truly don’t think trump serves the same people?

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cell689@reddit

>People fully understand what she is and who she really serves A lot of people, but evidently not all of them. I'm actually surprised that it was even so close. People in my country all talk about Trump like he's some sort of clown and that it's ridiculous that he got voted in, but to me kamala is so obviously the worse choice. Just goes to show how powerful propaganda really is.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Well he is a clown. US politics is so fucked that a clown actually happened to be the least horrible presidential candidate. This election was easier for Trump than his hair vs hair match against Vince McMahon in WWE

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37skalls@reddit

bro Trump is a scammer..... he literally could've gotten ridden of money in politics if he just picked supreme Court justices with a brain that don't protect citizens United. Now money aka corporate bribes will be with us for another 30 years at least

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Your favourite establishment politician who evidently are not scammers could have done these things that Trump san in evil for not doing as well right? Why would the elite do anything that curtails their influence?

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37skalls@reddit

like I'd gladly call out Obama too for stupid bailouts or pivoting to make the aca instead of public option but Trump is a dumb lying scammer Xd let's not pretend that's not true, he had the best opportunity of any president to stun the system. Best Trump can do now is probably smith like pressure republicans in Congress to at least ban stock ownership for future Congress members (the reps don't wanna be forced sell their current stock)

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Why didn't the non-scammer presidents do what you want this scammer to do ?

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37skalls@reddit

because u can't just pick a supreme court member whenever u want? isn't that obvious? they are life appointees that retire at their will or when they die. It's not like I would even like generic liberal picks but at least those would vote no on something as simple as saying no to citizens united (money=speech). Again Trump had the opportunity to pick more supreme Court justices and make it so citizen's united dies. He had the votes, he was the anti-corruption guy anyways but he chose not to or more likely he was too stupid to understand what he could've done so he just went with generic conservatives like with his first cabinet. If trump just did that I deadass wouldve voted for him even tho I'm very left just cause finally someone truly punished this shit system but he didn't, and he i can guarantee u he won't do anything about corruption now since he now takes money himself. Trump was a truly respectable vote in 2016, he was a radical symbol against a corrupt aystem. Voting for him in 2024 is straight up retarded, he had an amazing opportunity and didn't do it, now he can't even do as much and he's proven to be a liar. Just embarrassing these are the American 'leaders', there's more reliable people at any local library.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

You want him to be the best president, otherwise he's the worst?

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37skalls@reddit

can u stop being so intentionally blind, like pull out his cock out ur mouth for a second. I don't consider banning abortion to be good Or pulling out the Paris agreement or a million other things he did/wants all I wanted was for him to take out money from politics lol .. (A THING HE CAMPAIGNED ON). It was super realistic for him to do it given THE LIFE OPPORTUNITY of being able to stack the court. Also "you want him to be the best president" god forbid you have a high standard for the president of the whole nation lol.. I don't want him to be the best, I want him to be the bare minimum above yet another moron who is in the pockets of rich influences.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Do you not realise that taking money out of politics would improve the USA so much that it quite literally would make him the best president? This however, is never going to happen. He is a political , like all of them he is in the pockets of rich influencers.

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37skalls@reddit

amm? what are u talking about... Trump was the dude that picked the justices... even a regular corporate dem would have nominated a generic liberal judge who would've voted to get rid of citizens United. Trump could've just picked a different conservative justice that doesn't approve of citizens United lol.. Obama couldn't stack the court, same with Biden, trump had a real chance to truly overturn citizens united.

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assistantprofessor@reddit

Trump could have done this, could have done that. Mfer was in power 4/250 years, what were the other politicians doing who are not 'grifters' or 'scam artists'

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Milesware@reddit

yea bro cuz he marketed himself as the "anti establishment" candidate while nobody else is using that banner, when you market yourself as something you're not, you're a scammer

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37skalls@reddit

like it's not even like Obama tan to get money out of politics. that was Trump's whole shtick, the swamp and money, now he takes money and when he had the chance to put justices and make a majority against citizens united he didnt (an opportunity Biden nor Obama had,not that I'm even a fan of them lol...)

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Smackmewithahammer@reddit

That was a solid 6 years before trump was in office...

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RighteousSmooya@reddit

He had the opportunity to appoint multiple seats with a slew of judges that would be willing to overturn it

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TheNewOP@reddit

> protect citizens United

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

My god this a stupid take

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RighteousSmooya@reddit

Yeah because the FTC was so much friendlier to big business under the Biden admin compared to the Trump admin

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Jewronimoses@reddit

why do you care about what people do with their own bodies? I don't see you up in arms about hospitals profiting over boob jobs

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Well I don't see the media pushing boob jobs to young children through propaganda and misguided empathy for the sake of profits. I agree with you that an adult should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. But the amount of attention that transgender / gender reassignment surgery (even the name is fucking retarded) is getting and the methods they're using to gaslight children and parents into it is disgusting and insidious, and everyone who complains about it is doing it rightfully so regardless of the labels they get attached to them for speaking common sense.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

Nobody is pushing anything on anything. You do realize the process to get gender reassignment surgery is extremely long and complex and requires input of multiple medical professionals right?

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edbods@reddit

> I don't see you up in arms about hospitals profiting over boob jobs well duh. he was talking about gender reassignment not boob jobs you silly goose

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Jewronimoses@reddit

It's all plastic surgery. The surgeon is doing a procedure that an individual asks for and is compensated. Nothing about it has any impact on you. What difference does it make to you if I choose to get a nose job or a penis job? or want to get liposuction to look skinnier. Heck, gender reassigment affects you even less because it's not like you're pulling down someone's pants to check...or are you?

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DxNill@reddit

So you'd agree thst Trans people should save up and pay for their own sex reassignment surgery? Actually curious about your answer.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

I mean it's an elective procedure so yes.

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

You're missing the point entirely. The point isn't that people are doing it, the point is that the Democratic party can't stop defending them when they should have other priorities as this one is hindering them

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Jewronimoses@reddit

But you're missing the point as well. Democrats wouldn't need to defend trans rights if Republicans weren't attacking them...

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

The Democrats don't need to defend trans rights when trans people are perfectly capable of defending themselves. The problem is that there's enough bad actors in the trans community to make them look bad to the naysayers. If they did some of the work themselves (God forbid) and rooted these people out and disavowed them or properly came together as a community rallied under a different flag, because no one takes LGBTQ seriously anymore because of said bad actors, then they would be fine. I live in a red state and a vast majority of the people I've spoken to don't have a problem with people transitioning, it's always got to do with the children and how it's being pushed on them. My idea was always to save the talk of transitioning as well as every other thing pertaining to sexuality until sex ed class, outside of it's okay for boys to like boys and girls to like girls. And that same vast majority of people generally agree with me. The problem is that you got people trying to push it as far as they can when it's not necessary and your alienating moderates in the process. It's the worst thing you can do. And that's what too many of them are doing.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

>The Democrats don't need to defend trans rights when trans people are perfectly capable of defending themselves. you know that's not true though. Trans people are a very small minority and republicans are a huge majority. There's no way in hell that Trans people are able to defend themselves without help and allies. and we both know schools aren't "pushing" transitioning on kids. The only thing that's changing is that schools are becoming more accepting of people that are different which wasn't the case in the past. In the past, when people were different they got bullied and ostracized. That's still the case today. It's why LGBT people have some of the highest rates of suicide in the country.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

There was no need for them to be defended. Assaulting people for whatever reason was already illegal and enforced. Why did Dems decided to "fix" a problem that didn't exist.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Why do you think the Republicans have the need to do it but not before it? I mean trans people have existed for a while now. Because the progressives overplayed their hand, as soon as gay marriage git legal they needed a new cause and they just flooded the entire media with them, games, tv shows, movies, even commercials. Everyone is sick of this shit even tho they didn't care before the Dems picked this hill to die on.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

So much political capital has been spent on this it's ridiculous. Just because the Dems can't take a small L and move onto battles that matter.

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edbods@reddit

> gender reassigment affects you even less that's why transgender people got banned from female olympic sports right?

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Jewronimoses@reddit

Sorry please show me where the IOC has banned transgender athletes cause I see no evidence of this?

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Jokes on you, I'm against boob jobs, too. When people are given full autonomy, they will not choose the decisions that are best for themselves.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

but why do you care?

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Why shouldn't I?

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Jewronimoses@reddit

cause it's not your body

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Doesn't mean I can't care. I don't believe in bodily autonomy. People aren't capable of choosing what's best for themselves.

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Jewronimoses@reddit

who defines "what's best for them"? You think politicians have their best interests at heart?

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encrustingXacro@reddit

**I** define "best for them".

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kingsy044@reddit

Went too deep with the bait m8. Gotta do the controversial comment, single reply then leave them malding

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encrustingXacro@reddit

I originally wasn't baiting doe

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ZombieAlienNinja@reddit

Because to these people restricting people's rights is fine unless they are a corporation then restricting them is literally devils work.

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Jozsefirst@reddit

That's the two party voting system for you. Illusion of choice, nothing more.

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Colosphe@reddit

Not that she doesn't but NY Old-Money real estate guy who thinks veterans are suckers - probably not too far from "the elite". If you truly want an anti-elite candidate, you're shit outta luck; the levers of power don't open themselves to destabilizing forces.

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

"Hey Jamie can you pull up the video of Trump saying veterans are suckers? No? didn't think so."

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Do you want me to actually google that for you? Because there are tons of reports of him making derogatory remarks about veterans. Just because it's not on video, doesn't mean it didn't happen. But there are also actually some instances of it on video, where he says that he doesn't like McCain because he was captured by the Viet Cong

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

he dissed mccain not veterans you tool

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

If Biden’s chief of staff claimed that he said something like that, do you think most republicans would be asking for video proof? Genuine question

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Robot_tanks@reddit

Yeah I do

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

You didn’t answer my question, I said most republicans

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Robot_tanks@reddit

I did and I do believe most people would ask for actually evidence beyond he said she said, I guess except, the MSN is the Truth!!! believers but I think those types are an endangered species

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ARaptorInAHat@reddit

veterans are suckers though

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AugustsNapol@reddit

Whether or not Kamala Harris has relations for the elite is not relevant to whether or not Trump has relations to the elite (which he obviously does he’s a fucking billionaire). Both sides can be bad

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ImprovisedLeaflet@reddit

And also one side will fuck over working class people way more than the other side.

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AC3R665@reddit

The Dems cause they keep fucking Bernie/Left-Populists?

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RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit

yeah man I hate Bernie too

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Not all Billionaires are bad.

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SINGULARITY1312@reddit

Bootlicking garbage

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Cope

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SINGULARITY1312@reddit

Ok now what?

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ccountup@reddit

Enjoy that 1 morbillion percent markup on your eggs boyo

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SINGULARITY1312@reddit

I’ve heard estimates of 1 gorillion to 1 jillion

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AugustsNapol@reddit

Lmao enjoy the corporate tax cuts cuck

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

I will, I will spend them to expand my business.

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

I just say that cause the original commenter says people were duped into voting for the elite as if implying she's a better choice that gets one in over the elites

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

It doesn’t imply that at all though. It only implies that Trump voters wholeheartedly believe that Trump was the “anti-elite” candidate.

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TheFoxyDanceHut@reddit

Trump sucks "Yeah sure like Kamala would be any better" No one's talking about Kamala, we're talking about Trump. "Uh huh, you just love Kamala sooo much" Literally not talking about this person at all "Yeah ok alright, but Kamala sucks look at all these things she did" Every fucking thread every fucking site good lord

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CrushCoalMakeDiamond@reddit

I don't even recall hearing a Kamala supporter claiming she was some anti-elite candidate, but many Trump supporters have unironically bought into the idea Trump is an anti-elite candidate who really does care about the little guy and is going to topple the "deep state" Though their idea of elite seems to be pretty arbitrary and even inverted at times. Like Elon Musk is not "the elite", but some random twitter coders he fired are "the elite"

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

I'm mainly addressing the first 4chan poster saying people were duped. And I see leftist have the victim hood mentality a lot that their beliefs are still anti-establishment and that elites don't like their views.

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CrushCoalMakeDiamond@reddit

But you didn't refute their statement that many Trump supporters unironically believed they voted for a candidate who is going to take on "the elite" and were therefore duped. They invented a whole mythology around him as the slayer of the deep state.

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

Oh well yeah cause of course Trump is elite in ways. You couldn't become president if you weren't

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theSearch4Truth@reddit

I'm actually shocked this is the top comment considering the way this app/site leans politically

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

Well it's r/4chan so instead of the normal 100% Zog leftism ratio you can get like 50% zog leftism instead.

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That_Guy381@reddit

zog?

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CrushCoalMakeDiamond@reddit

Zionist Occupation Government, in other words "the Jews"

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That_Guy381@reddit

Oh, I know. I just wanted this little nazi to say it out loud, but he's too much of a pussy.

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Organic-Walk5873@reddit

Compared to Trump? Nah

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YanniBonYont@reddit

There is "relations to the elite" and then there is wholesale ownership. Elon musk is the foreigner billionaire controlling policy that everyone thought George Soros was (but wasn't)

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DancesWithChimps@reddit

What policy is Elon controlling again besides "say what you want on the internet" and "governments going bankrupt is bad"? I don't think Elon has made a single policy suggestion that isn't brain dead obvious.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

For example, he has stated clearly that he is against regulations. Let me translate that for you: "I want to do more corruption" They're talking about cutting the CFPB, an agency that only does good for the American people and stops them from being scammed by corporations. There is objectively no better agency in the US. The only reason you'd want to go is because you want to be more predatory

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DancesWithChimps@reddit

Bro, if you think anyone for less regulation is pro-corruption, you belong on this dumbass website

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ChineseCracker@reddit

People in Power who push against regulations do it because of corruption. Name me a single person who is categorically against corruption who isn't a corporate hack! Regular folks who support politicians who are against regulations are just idiots who don't even know what regulations are.

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DancesWithChimps@reddit

I hope you’re either 12 or a literal bot, because otherwise goddamn dude

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YanniBonYont@reddit

Yes. Pointing out problems is the easy part. will need to check in in 2026 to see what dept of DOGE does and whether it services the American people or his companies.

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

>5 sorosbucks have been deposited in to your account

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YanniBonYont@reddit

Gig economy

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saruin@reddit

Especially her running mate. Totally beholden to Big Money but yet owns no stocks and... oh wait!

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

The elites were all angry at Biden/Harris for putting actual pro-consumer/pro-worker people in charge of the FTC, FCC, SEC & NLRB.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

>for putting actual pro-consumer/pro-worker people in charge of the FTC, FCC, SEC & NLRB. Please tell me you're not including Gary Gensler in this equation. Because for anyone who knows shit about crypto he was the worst thing to happen to it.

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

I am because crypto is just rich people finding new ways to scam idiots out of their money.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Oh boy. Not only are you missing out on the modern day gold rush, and the best opportunity to strengthen democracy, but you're also going to stay poor. Good luck, bud.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Stop changing the topic. No one said that you can't make money with crypto. You can make money with the regular stock market as well. When you buy a shitcoin and you're able to sell that for a profit, where do you think that money comes from? Do you think it comes out of a rich person's pocket? lol No, it comes out of a poor person's pocket who either sold at a loss or is still holding the bag. You and the elites are simultaneously robbing poor people. But now you're all for that because this time you're on the side of the people who do the robbing.

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Wail_Bait@reddit

The gold rush is actually the perfect example. If you took five minutes to read about the history of it, you'd know that the merchants made way more money than the actual miners. Instead of Levi Strauss, today the big winners are chip manufacturers like Nvidia.

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

Good luck too. I hope you put all your money into the next FTX.

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Curiouso_Giorgio@reddit

She didn't sell herself as the Maverick swamp drainer, though. She tried very hard to be a status quo, back to the pre Trump times, working with the other party kind of politician. It's fine to not want that, but saying what about Kamala doesn't really work, here.

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

Social media, mainstream media, most big tech companies, most entertainment figures, most big time celebrities, etc. But no, it’s only the right side 😊 /s

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DancesWithChimps@reddit

Guys, look at the BILLION dollars that ended up in my campaign war chest! Must be because of how middle class I am!

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Chrimunn@reddit

That endorsement from Liz Cheney really bright her down to earth eh /s. It should have been Bernie

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orgulodfan82@reddit

Obviously Cameltoe Hairys is corrupt, as practically all politicians are. But one candidate had the richest man in the world literally hand millions of dollars to voters to vote for him and is using the power it brought him to end consumer protection and shit, and the other candidate doesn't have that.

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centurion762@reddit

The Harris camp raised over twice as much money as Trump’s.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Yup, she had to pay celebrities to perform at her show (because no one actually gave a fuck about her) and still ended up losing with $20m in debt. Well deserved loss.

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DoubleSpoiler@reddit

That's... not what the comic is implying.

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

Replying to the Canadian

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FreelancerFL@reddit

Literally what I was thinking like bruh only a woman could be as incompliant as her and still manage to suck and fuck her way to the second highest office in the country. Still wasn't enough to get her the big chair.

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dayilee@reddit

when you have the choice of voting Elites versus Mediocre...

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DappyDee@reddit

I haven't seen a man beat a woman so hard since the Olympics.

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

Make sure you wipe his cum off your face when you’re done champ

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MikoMiky@reddit

You sound big mad And also homophobic lmao

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ChineseCracker@reddit

How was that homophobic? He implied that he jacked off so hard to seeing a woman get beaten up, that he came on his own face.

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VegetablePlane9983@reddit

no he didnt, he said that he was sucking on trumps dick and had HIS cum on his face

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Sorry, I didn't read that correctly. Still not homophobic. How is that homophobic? The only reason why you'd think it's homophobic is if you believe that it's a categorically bad situation to be in

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VegetablePlane9983@reddit

he was obviously using it as an insult, thats what people meant by jokingly saying that its homophobic.

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Nuggetry@reddit

You lost this argument, move along bubba.

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VegetablePlane9983@reddit

i didnt know i was arguing

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Dyn-Jarren@reddit

Isn't the insult that you've submitted to someone sexually, betraying your own values for some regarded benefits that probably don't exist outside of fox news.

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Ottoblock@reddit

Its bad to be homophobic unless you do it to someone on the right. Duh.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

What if you hate both?

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Cresset@reddit

Reminds me of the interesting stuff you read about Melania from the women respecters

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smallrotatingfan@reddit

If it’s homophobic to say that Trump voters love to guzzle cum, then I suppose you could say I hate f slurs 🫢

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MrDoulou@reddit

Lmao they’re enjoying their moment. Let them, the dems don’t know how to elect a candidate anyway so what’s the point? There is no good option, cuz a guy like Bernie could never get past the primary.

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

You sound like a retard

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Dyn-Jarren@reddit

Its not homophobic to accuse someone of unknown gender of submitting to someone who doesn't give a shit about them. Love how excited you got despite being regarded.

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Material_Band5687@reddit

Are you a British cigarette?

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RedditIsAboutToDie@reddit

woah is that Destiny’s reddit account

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LoveYourKitty@reddit

The fuck is this garden variety Redditor going in this sub? You lost?

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TrainwreckOG@reddit

When did a man beat a women in the Olympics?

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ResponsibleNote8012@reddit

Imane Khalif

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TrainwreckOG@reddit

So not a man, gotcha

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El_Bistro@reddit

Boxing or something

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WiseHedgehog2098@reddit

Will the glazing of a billionaire ever end?

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misterdigdug@reddit

By 1%?

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fiftyfourseventeen@reddit

226-312?

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14domino@reddit

200k votes in 3 states out of 150 million total

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

so 226-312?

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14domino@reddit

Sure if that helps you feel better

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Orion7734@reddit

Watching the loser of the election cope by rattling off the popular vote is like watching the loser of the Super Bowl cope by saying "My team had the most passing yards!"

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Ottoblock@reddit

They didn't even win the popular vote and they are still talking about it. Usually they win the popular vote and lose the election. Id say wait for that to happen again and see if whining about it changes anything.

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Alascala8@reddit

At least they accept they lost the popular vote and didn’t piss their pants and raid the capital over it, right?

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Orion7734@reddit

Seems like plenty of people in this thread are pissing their pants over the election.

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Alascala8@reddit

Anybody making braindead conspiracies about the election being rigged?

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Orion7734@reddit

Anybody know how I would feel if I didn't eat breakfast this morning?

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

bro I feel great! we fucking won by a landslide lmao, really looking forward to 12 years of Trump/Vance

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14domino@reddit

Enjoy your tariffs

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

thanks bro, I'm going to enjoy them *so hard*

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14domino@reddit

Lol

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DappyDee@reddit

2028, here we come!

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fiftyfourseventeen@reddit

That would be great if we user the popular vote to decide the president. However we actually use the electoral college instead

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Orion7734@reddit

1% of the vote won Trump 100% of the Presidency

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FreelancerFL@reddit

48.4% - 50%

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DappyDee@reddit

Perhaps. Maychance more.

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Alamasy@reddit

Most people who make less than 100k voted for Trump, so you tell me.

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Reesetopher@reddit

It would be a first time that people voted against their self interest. /s

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SinCityMayor@reddit

They already saw a Trump presidency and they voted to get another one. VOtInG AgAiNst yOur bEsT iNteREsT is a good way to say "I have no idea why Trump won and I'm going to be as equally surprised when another guy like him wins again."

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Reesetopher@reddit

Trump getting endorsed heavily by Elon who hates unions. Bezos also hates unions and stopped his paper from endorsing Kamala. Most are working class and voted against their best interests.

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alanisalpha@reddit

you leave out that tons of unions endorsed trump

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Reesetopher@reddit

The largest unions currently in the AFL-CIO are the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) with approximately 1.7 million members, American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) Look up who they endorsed!

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Dubaku@reddit

Good. Unions are run by communists that steal your wages to enrich the union bosses and to donate to the Democrats.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Why would you call Trump voters stupid?

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SplashingChicken@reddit

They shouldve nominated Pelosi to run. Every suburban woman wouldve voted for her and all guys deeply desire to motorboat her massive fun bags so it wouldve been an easy win. But no, Democrats are regarded.

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ptitty123192@reddit

Flags match, enjoy the tariffs you Canuck

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thelongestunderscore@reddit

Oh god, another dude who doesn't know what a tariff is.

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ptitty123192@reddit

A tariff is an increased price on imported goods, in this case from Canada and Mexico. I can live without artificially price increased maple syrup

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thelongestunderscore@reddit

What about gas, we import a substantial amount of oil as well.

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ptitty123192@reddit

I bike to work

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JTT_0550@reddit

You know you’ll be the one paying them, right?

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

keep telling yourself that while you're in the unemployment line leaf

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ChineseCracker@reddit

hahahaha, look how mad he gets when he's confronted with facts 😆 Buddy, if you think the problem with the US is unemployment... then you're probably not aware that unemployment in the US is at a historic low. it's just idiotic to mention unemployment as a reason for wanting tariffs. Tariffs will actually increase unemployment because decreasing trade with other countries will cut jobs in the US. The people who distribute foreign goods in the US will get hurt by it.

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

I never said we need tariffs because of unemployment brainrot

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Frigorific@reddit

The majority of our lumber is imported from canada. I'm sure that's no big deal right?

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

happy to impose tariffs in exchange for less illegal immigration any day of the week and twice on Sunday pal

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S2kKyle@reddit

Lmao all those illegal Canadians trying to get into the USA for our healthcare. Please look up tarrifs and the great depression. If you're broke now, you'll be more broke soon.

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JTT_0550@reddit

I’m American but ok

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

ayyy then enjoy those higher wages brought about by the increased demand for domestic labor caused by tariffs lmao and ya, higher wages do cause inflationary pressure, but since labor never makes up for more than 100% of the input of any product, the increase in prices will, on avg, be more than offset by the increase in wages, yipee!

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Frigorific@reddit

The increase in prices are only offset by the increase in wages if you work in industries affected by the labor shortages. Everyone else will just get inflation. Some people will also lose their jobs as import taxes on input goods make US exports uncompetitive. There's a reason most economies moved away from tariffs outside of specific narrow tariffs to protect vital indistires.

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

eww I just checked your post history and you're a david pakman/destiny fan, I feel gross even having responded to you, welcome to my block list

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BraveSquirrel@reddit

ya obviously, that's why it's an average lol trump put tariffs first term and we had lowest unemployment ever ya because corpos don't like tariffs and they control most economies

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_Empty-R_@reddit

bro rides the de nile err day

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Dubaku@reddit

>implying Canada has anything worth exporting to the US in the first place

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Canada is America's biggest trading partner

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Dubaku@reddit

Yes because the US has stuff they want, but there's only so much maple syrup and tech Indians needed by the US

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Ice_Swallow4u@reddit

Day of the rake.

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Alexpounder@reddit

Lol, the legends were true do, it's almost here.

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StarvingCommunists@reddit

>appealing to pharma with the RFK appointment >big tech backing trump >crypto bros reads like parody

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MaiMaiTouch@reddit

> big tech backing trump Tech billionaire Elon Musk literally [dedicated his entire platform to guzzling Trump's cummies even after Trump ordered him to get on his knees and suck.](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/108636743295734643) Elon turned Twitter into what everyone who didn't read dumbshit Matt Taibbi's Twitter Files thought was in it.

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StarvingCommunists@reddit

1. twitter is literally the most politically balanced social media platform right now 2. Elon Musk ⚖️ Everything else

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SomethingBuggingYou@reddit

RFK pushing for retarded shit like anti-vaccination and raw milk is unironically going to make big pharma billions in treating easily preventable diseases The only actual way to hurt them would be going after single payer healthcare

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StarvingCommunists@reddit

Big pharma should've been pushing anti-vax and raw milk years ago

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ChineseCracker@reddit

you're intentionally trying to misunderstand it. Pharma companies can't just afford to stop selling vaccines, to boost profits for their other meds, because then another company will step in and sell that vaccine. But if RFK can get regulation in place that stops vaccines, that's a big win for pharma

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PlasticAssistance_50@reddit

>RFK pushing for retarded shit like anti-vaccination and raw milk is unironically going to make big pharma billions in treating easily preventable diseases I doubt big pharma is going to make nearly as much money out of RFK's measures as they did with the mandates.

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Dubaku@reddit

Everybody laugh at the regard who needs the government to tell them how to keep themselves healthy.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

I love how the entire reason Hillary lost is because she was cringe and soulless. I don't know why the Democrat strategy was to pick another woman who was also cringe and soulless, but with the caveat that she was brown. Plus her entire campaign was she's not Trump and she will bring great change when she's president because she apparently can't do anything when she's the vice. Meanwhile the Republican strat has been consistent for almost a decade now and it's hilarious that it has a 66% winrate. That being run a guy who owns the cringe and knows how to make good tv. If there's one thing you can count on Trumpo to deliver on it's a highly quotable line or something that'll turn into a reaction gif.

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hmfreak910@reddit

I don't think they had too much of a choice. It would have cost too much money to get the funds for a new candidate and they didn't have a ton of time.

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Hug_The_NSA@reddit

> It would have cost too much money to get the funds for a new candidate and they didn't have a ton of time. They could have just tried not lying about Bidens mental decline for over 4 years. He was totally fine. *sharp as a tack!* and then when the debate happened they realized their lie had become untenable. They did all of this to themselves. They lie ALL the time, and when it was on display for all the American people to see that he was seriously in mental decline they knew it was over. That's why we got Kamala.

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Cresset@reddit

Maybe they sacrificed Kamala to protect the new guy/gal they're preparing for the next election, so he/she isn't tainted by the "lost to Trump" aura.

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Hug_The_NSA@reddit

I could see it, but I don't think they seriously considered that they would lose until the very end. They thought Trump would be easy to beat due to muh abortion and muh felon. I don't think even the Pelosi's of the dem world know who the next candidate will be at this point.

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

Yes, because the Democratic party members are notoriously short on funds all the time.

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Dubaku@reddit

Isn't Harris's campaign like $20m in debt?

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Germanaboo@reddit

Her entire campaign still costed over 1 billion and lord knowws how many millions of this sum were invested into celebrities to say one positive tweeet about her on Twitter.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

Can the Democrats really not find one competent woman who can pass the very low bar of having her head on her shoulders?

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TheOneWhoSlurms@reddit

No. Because any woman with her head on her shoulders is smart enough to avoid politics like the plague.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

I unironically think Republicans will put the first female president in office. Nikki Haley and Tulsi Gabbard are way better candidates than Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. Either that or Democrats put in a man with a dress and claim it's a woman.

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ii_zAtoMic@reddit

There are plenty of Trump voters that would not turn out for Nikki Haley. Just for example out of my 8 closest friends, 7 voted for Trump and only a couple are diehard Republican enough to vote Haley. We’re Gen Z, for reference — fuck that warmongerer.

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sprakes_@reddit

Nikki Haley is NOT a good candidate please erase that filthy name from your post. Gabbard is goated tho.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

Isn't there a saying about that anyway? Something along the lines of if you're chosing to become president you're already a terrible candidate?

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Dubaku@reddit

Not one who didn't already have a few million in campaign donations to their name. If they didn't go with her all that money would be useless. Its comical that the party that has spent the last 4 years evangelizing about the sanctity of democracy shot themselves in the head by circumventing it.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Kamala has blown a billion dollars in 3 months with nothing to show for. Money is not the problem. Meanwhile Trump goes to Joe Rogan and gets more views than all his television interviews and rallies combined, and it was free. Money no longer matters to campaigning.

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vmpafq@reddit

Kamala had the same opportunities. The Dems are just dumb and fake. They can't put their candidates in front of an unscripted mic.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

The people who said Kamala Harris didn't need to cater to Joe Rogan must feel pretty fucking stupid right now. Oh wait, that requires self-reflection and Democrats can't do that.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

A lot of people who ran her campaign also ran Hillary's campaign. It's a problem with the Democrat's internal party politics and conventional wisdom. > Meanwhile the Republican strat has been consistent for almost a decade now Being against the establishment isn't a "strat". That's why Trump lost in 2020 because he couldn't run against himself, because he was in charge.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

Semantics, running Trump for three election cycles is a strategy. A strategy doesn't cease to be a strategy because it doesn't work a third of the time. The definition only relates to the fact it's a plan of action and doesn't have anything to do with it's outcome. There's probably a hundred different reasons why Trump lost in 2020, but I do think that the winner's game plan for the last three cycles was "vote for me if you didn't like the last guy and think the country is falling apart." That's part of the reason Kamala lost too, she's in office with the power to enact change but her main promise was to withhold any change for a year until she gets a bigger crown.

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reallygreat2@reddit

If Obama ran against Trump, Trump would lose, he seems to only win against the untested woman candidate.

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Brussel_Rand@reddit

Now that you mention it, if they ran a man against Trump I think they could have won.

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Pommeswerfer@reddit

> knows how to make good tv. That's how Obama got in aswell for the Dems. If there's ever a republican around who can pull big speeches like he can, the Dems are cooked even more than they are today.

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notLOL@reddit

instead they get the quotemaker and he kills at it

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omgitschriso@reddit

> it's hilarious You got that part right because the rest of the world is certainly laughing at your country.

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Dubaku@reddit

I think its cute that third worlders always think their opinion on the US matters.

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Dude, if only there were more Kamala Harris hyena furry R34, I bet xhe would have won.

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markfoster314@reddit

> listening to a leaf lol. Lmao even

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Alive-Big-838@reddit

I second this. as a leaf.

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Clen23@reddit

Not crypto bros being listed as elites 😭

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Crypto is the most democratic process we've had in the modern age. The fact that Democrats were against it was enough to confirm everything I suspected about the party.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Oh boy... When you buy a shitcoin and you're able to sell that for a profit, where do you think that money comes from? Do you think it comes out of a rich person's pocket? No, it comes out of a poor person's pocket who either sold at a loss or is still holding the bag. The only people who can afford to hold their coins until they're in profit are people who don't need that money right now. So it's the middle class and the elites. You and the elites are simultaneously robbing poor people. But now you're all for that because this time you're on the side of the people who do the robbing. The only reason you think crypto is democratic is because it was new and didn't have any regulation tied to it. You also would've thought the stock market was democratic 200 years ago. The reason we have these regulations on the stock market is to stop predators from abusing the system. Those same predators went into crypto because it didn't have those regulations.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

You lumped the middle class with "the elites." There is no discussion here. You're jaded.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

\> gets called out for spewing bullshit \> can't argue against it: "There is no discussion here"

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Nah it's because some people actually have lives outside of leddit, believe it or not. Plus it's obvious you don't have any libertarian views. What is there to discuss? There is no common ground and at the end of the day I'm doing fine. You sound miserable, though. Good luck with that, bud.

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AC3R665@reddit

You just described taxation and welfare on how it fucks over the poor and working class. Not a good look.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

ok, apparently you don't understand how the tax system works and why we have a progressive tax system in the US

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Dubaku@reddit

Gun companies too lol.

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ResponsibleNote8012@reddit

Democrats will never stop holding sensible policies hostage by bundling them with absolutely delusional antigun policies.

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Dubaku@reddit

I just think its funny that they put the firearms industry on the same level of influence as the pharma mega corps. Like if that were true gun manufactures wouldn't be getting bled dry by frivolous law suits, and there wouldn't be punitive taxes on certain types of guns. You woulds also think that there would be more push back at the federal level against gun control, but the most we ever get is a "compromise". Meaning the grabbers only get half of what they want this time while the people they're victimizing get nothing. There is also the assumption that they're making that the only reason someone could be pro gun is if they are being paid off by big gun.

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Hubertino855@reddit

I vote for right wing parties because progressive activists/moral busy bodies are insufferable and in the last 10 years I realised that in the long run campaigning for 'societal change" is apocalyptic for societal cohesion and health....

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inventingnothing@reddit

The problem with progressives is that there is no off-ramp. You either die a conservative or live long enough to see societal collapse. For a progressive, the only mark of success is an amorphous idea of what progress is. It's like a mirage in the distance that continues to escape you as you close in.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

What does that even mean? Being a progressive doesn't mean being for constant "progress", just because that's the definition of the word? Progressives are against inequality. They're against inequality on social issues (gay/trans, women, PoC having inherent disadvantages) and they're against inequality on economic issues (giant corporations robbing the citizens for their own benefits). That's it. What do you think the implication would be if progressives were ever able to get rid of inequalities? (disregarding the fact that it's not really possible to do so) You think the scale goes in the other direction, once it has been balanced out?

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inventingnothing@reddit

> Being a progressive doesn't mean being for constant "progress" It literally does though. Most progressives believe that progress for the sake of progress is always good, because they believe the opposite of progress is stagnation. This is a false dichotomy. You may also be confusing progressive for liberal. > What do you think the implication would be if progressives were ever able to get rid of inequalities? (disregarding the fact that it's not really possible to do so) You kind of answered your own question. There will always be inequalities of some sort, somewhere, somehow. So long as they exist, progressives will make them the biggest, most pressing issue. Case in point is the shift from *equality* to *equity*. Or finding some new marginalized group to focus their attention on. > You think the scale goes in the other direction, once it has been balanced out? I think of it like this. There are two people on a hill with a boulder. One is trying to hold the boulder in place, and the other is trying to push it down the hill. If person holding it lets go, the boulder will fall down the hill and go out of control and smash into a village below. The person trying to push it down believes that if they do so, the boulder will no longer pose a danger to the village below. My point is, small incremental changes are good. No change at all means no chance of things getting better. Massive changes all at once creates instability and chaos.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

> Most progressives believe that progress for the sake of progress is always good citation needed You're just making up this strawman to argue against it. I have literally never heard anyone push for "constant progression"

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AC3R665@reddit

Then you haven't watched many socialists. Even Vaush pointed this out when he shat on progressives who only want gay or trans rights, he talked about how progressivism should be always be about challenging societal norms and traditions, which is harrowing because it's an extremist position because some societal norms and traditions are good. He has his attacking his strawman, while you are plugging your ears saying "nah nah this doesn't exist!"

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ChineseCracker@reddit

it's not about which YouTuber you watch. it ultimately doesn't matter what some crazy influencers say. Which politician on the left actually believes that and wants unlimited change just for the sake of change? name a single person in a position of power. you can't, because there isn't anybody who thinks that. If you base your worldview based on what some influencers on the internet say, then the Republican party wants racism and they love Hitler - because that's what some right-wing influencers want. Do you think that's a fair representation of the right?

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ZombieAlienNinja@reddit

Ah yes because staying put and never changing is the true human experience (sent from my cave wall)

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Cresset@reddit

Technically letting Elon put chips in your brain is progress and you should let him.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

When "progress" is defined as destroying gender norms, awarding people based on their race, and telling successful people that they need to pay more so society can fund illegal immigrants that are being used to replace the middle class for cheaper labor... then yeah staying put is a perfectly reasonable alternative.

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idiot206@reddit

>illegal immigrants that are being used to replace the middle class for cheaper labor... If only we had unions and strong labor protections. If republicans actually cared about this, they wouldn’t be fighting so hard to make it as easy as possible for corporations to exploit workers.

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Dubaku@reddit

It's not like the Dems care about them either. They're the ones replacing them with illegals.

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Alex_2259@reddit

I don't think an adjudicated sexual assaulter and authoritarian populist part of a global illiberal democracy trend, who tried to appoint a pedo to AG is going to be better for societal cohesion. That movement is de facto engineered to erode Western institutions leaving RU and CN as beneficiaries. The only real benefit of a Trump win is it may force the left in the West to wake up from the culture war bullshit they have been the proponents of, walking into a right wing trap that actually works.

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Dubaku@reddit

Can you even explain what a populist is and why you think they're bad? Or are you just repeating something you heard somebody else say?

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utter_degenerate@reddit

Well, wikipedia says populism=bad, so that clearly must be true.

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Dubaku@reddit

I just did a quick skim but the wikipedia article for it is surprisingly balanced. >Populism is a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of the common people and often position this group in opposition to a perceived elite group.[1] It is frequently associated with anti-establishment and anti-political sentiment. ... >A common framework for interpreting populism is known as the ideational approach: this defines populism as an ideology that presents "the people" as a morally good force and contrasts them against "the elite", who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving.[4] Populists differ in how "the people" are defined, but it can be based along class, ethnic, or national lines. Populists typically present "the elite" as comprising the political, economic, cultural, and media establishment, depicted as a homogeneous entity and accused of placing their own interests, and often the interests of other groups—such as large corporations, foreign countries, or the ruling political party—above the interests of "the people".[5] According to the ideational approach, populism is often combined with other ideologies, such as nationalism, liberalism, socialism, capitalism or consumerism. Thus, populists can be found at different locations along the left–right political spectrum, and there exist both left-wing populism and right-wing populism.[6] This is just from the first few paragraphs but that's what 99% of people are going to read anyway and I'm not really in the mood to read and decipher over 16,000 words of sociology non-sense speak. It is pretty amusing that its mostly commies and progs throwing around the term these days when the definition provided by wikipedia describes them just as much as it describes MAGA. They all claim to be champions of the people fighting against the group they claim is the enemy. They just disagree on who that enemy is.

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utter_degenerate@reddit

Huh, yeah that is pretty neutral. The article in my native laguage is way more biased, so I just kinda assumed the English one was as well. My bad.

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Dubaku@reddit

To be fair its a safe assumption. Most of the time they are. I went into expecting it to say something like "populism is a far right ideology associated with fascists."

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TobiasEllila@reddit

"Part of a series on Antisemitism"

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utter_degenerate@reddit

Yeah, check [this shit](https://rudd-o.com/archives/wikipedias-long-work-of-disinformation-and-censorship-on-the-cultural-marxism-article/@@display-file/picture/cultural%20marxism%20vs%20current%20cultural%20marxism.jpg) out.

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HeightAdvantage@reddit

Kamala kept pretty far away from culture war stuff for her campaign. Voters just care way more about egg prices than democratic norms.

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Alex_2259@reddit

The party itself still has the culture war branding, which it needs to put more distance between. I would agree, economy has a huge impact also. Globally incumbents have been getting smacked, although the Trump economy per data is an illusion. Doesn't mean the Dems did a good job in messaging here, and phrased it more as "look the data says everything is fine" when we aren't feeling that. Should have been phrased more as cleaning up after Trump.

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encrustingXacro@reddit

Both can be bad. The American left and right are two sides of the same coin. Trump is just another pawn in the centuries-long path that has been the decay of the West (and, in turn, the rest of the world). From my political standing, Trump might as well be on the left.

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Alascala8@reddit

Looks at a bottle of ketchup and a bottle of poison. “They both can be bad”

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Well, Ketchup contains sugar which can (and definitely will) kill you! But poison, ... it depends. Some species have resistance to certain types of poison.... and generally, the word poison doesn't really mean what we think it means. For example, the acid in citrus fruits is poisonous to certain animals. So we shouldn't count out the poison. I say we vote for the poison and see how it goes.

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Alascala8@reddit

“Yes he may want to be a dictator, but the guardrails should hold.” -Ben Shapiro

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Alex_2259@reddit

Both are bad, but not equivalent. Not anymore, that was relatively true at one point before right wing authoritarian populism rose. We don't really have left wing authoritarian populism much in the West, you'll see it in Latin America and other corners of the world. At least in the US the extremist left is more "social media and academic" as opposed to militant or outright getting federal positions. Some of the bullshit makes it into policy but not usually. At best you see it more in local and state positions, but "radical" does a lot of heavy lifting. Would consider it more out of touch and incompetent than outwardly radical or having an agenda of sorts.

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Material_Band5687@reddit

You sound like a British cigarette.

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Alex_2259@reddit

Blow me

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SinCityMayor@reddit

>That movement is de facto engineered to erode Western institutions leaving RU and CN as beneficiaries. That's interesting, when did Republicans become feminists?

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Alex_2259@reddit

They spread the culture war too, but it's a strategy to get their authoritarian populist figures into power. If you think modern feminism is more a threat to the West than authoritarian populism, you're delusional. The divorcing of leftists from reality is a supporting role.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Populism is a symptom and a response to what's already been happening. Things like gender divide and racial inequality were intentionally designed and you can trace their roots to Marxism which was spread through college campuses.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Only the difference is, that the Republicans aren't really populists. It's just astroturfed. Trump ran on populist issues, but then he didn't do anything populist when he was in office. I can just give you a list of all of his campaign promises from 2016 - and he basically didn't do any of them. Like health care reform or Mexico having to pay for American border security. However, the thing he did do was: tax-cuts for the rich

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Alex_2259@reddit

How does this have anything to do with Marxism? The specific right wing brand of populism is a complex response to a lot of things. Part of it is a left wing overzealous obsession on fringe culture war topics, fabricated/exaggerated and real alike. It's a response to globalism especially in the de industrialized Rural America, and an ironically right wing brand of economics having the impression of leaving people behind. Algorithmic based social media, nation state actors involved in such, etc. I would need to go on for paragraphs to list all the causes. It's not even exclusive to the US.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

I just got tired of walking on eggshells.

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ChineseCracker@reddit

How have you been walking on eggshells? "I keep wanting to call gay people slurs, but these damn leftists make it socially unacceptable"

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

yeah

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Come on bud. Just stand your values! If your woke employer fires you for being against gay people, it's their loss!

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

I'm more concerned about reddit mods

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ChineseCracker@reddit

The only party that is running on social issues and societal change is the Republicans. They want to change all the things about the culture that have naturally evolved over time. - They're against tolerance for gay and trans people - They're against people celebrating other holidays than Christmas in December - They're against abortion rights None of these things was ever enforced by Democrats. Obama was against gay marriage before the majority of the country started being for it.

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thelongestunderscore@reddit

And rhe dude who wants to run back the polio vaccine, that's gonna help.

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somewhatpresent@reddit

Everyone's insufferable now. you really dont think the party of evangelicals and mormons have moral busybodies amongst them? theyre less literate at using tiktok and reddit so maybe you havent seen as much of it online but theyve always been the worst at that. only thing that changed is liberals used to mock that but now have their own form of religion , wokeism, so they can do the exact same shit from a different angle. its all the same shit from a different angle. keeping men out of womens sport was part of trumps platform. nobody gives a shit about womens boxing. all these conservatives would have been against female boxing even being a thing a few decades ago. but now its an official platform policy to protect it - why? could they name a \_single\_ female boxer before the olympics? nah they just feel the need to pick a side on pointless culture wars. its the same moral busybody attitude from a different angle. the south park where religiion is gone in 5000 years but people still have huge wars over the name of the organizatoin was close to true, its just the bogus religions are wokeism, crypto, and maga. People on 4chan and to a lesser extent this sub were happy to be edgelords (cringe but at least consistent), now in destiny thread a lot of people generally upset that he made some of some fat guy in the front row of trumps rally getting his brains blown out. plenty of fentanly jokes when st george floyd dies but now that gen z is shifting right the "fuck your feelings" crowd cant handle some making fun of some well regarded maga whale getting his brains splattered. im actually watching 4chan and this sub shift in real time from being nihilistic edgelords to honestly getting sensitive and soft if the jokes start drifting back towards mocking maga. it wasnt always like this. youre watching 4chan die in real time as well as it just also needs to take some side of the boring pointless stuff. even nhilsitic edgelords are becoming extinct. only insufferable people allowed. anyone with half a brain cell to either have reasonable view or to just want to check out of is poltically homeless and increasingly homeless on the internet which for a long time was the only place to check out to. the industrial revolution and its consequences....

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Dubaku@reddit

> you really dont think the party of evangelicals and mormons have moral busybodies amongst them? Stopped reading there. You're stuck 20 years in the past.

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MrDoulou@reddit

Oh wow, that’s actually quite interesting…unlike the rest of the comments on this sub at this point. They’re too busy guzzling the anti femme propaganda that the rightys are spouting into their mouths. Bunch of incels, genuinely, and it’s okay, they couldn’t be as genuine as you are in this comment.

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

I'll take the progressive busy bodies over the religious busy bodies any day of the week.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

>At least the progressives can be reasoned with. TOP FUCKING KEK I have spoken to conservatives as a progressive. I have spoken to progressives as a conservative. Conservatives, by far, have more patience to debate ideas, and have more knowledge/understanding of the other party's viewpoints. But God help you the moment a progressive finds out you don't support one of the two hundred "movements" they're currently posting about on social media.

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

There's a pretty huge fucking difference between someone not wanting to talk to you any more and religious zealots wanting to shove their religion down your throat, force their religion on kids via the government, control people's bodies and ban music, books and movies they don't like.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

It sounds like you've dealt with conservatives in the south or midwest. I live in the Northeast and most conservatives here focus more on gun rights and abortion more so than religion. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there are reasonable progressives in the south and midwest if that's the case.

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Cornelius_Wangenheim@reddit

Yes, I am in the South and I deal with them every day. Let me tell you, the zealots are not going to be satisfied just fucking up the South. Their goal is to make the entire country like the South.

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Hubertino855@reddit

My man whataboutism is not an good argument and religious zealots here in Central Europe on the level of US evangelicals are quite non-existent....

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mrboomtastic3@reddit

Apart from seatbelt laws, drinking while driving, smoking. Which were progressive laws put into place that caused societal change for the better. Tell me these societal changes you're talking about that will be apocalyptic for societal cohesion? I don't understand what argument you're trying to advocate for.

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Hubertino855@reddit

Have you not seen LAST 10 YEARS in my comment????

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mrboomtastic3@reddit

Okay, so give me something.

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SpiderManEgo@reddit

Thing is he's not going to respond because he doesn't have anything to use in his defense, just a gut feeling. That's the real issue, these are the people that vote republicans because of a "gut feeling" and not realizing they've been psy-op'd into oblivion and back. Thy mix up right (direction) with right (correct) and think that they're doing the right thing by voting for the right wing. But moment you show them facts or remind them how there are delays regarding when policies are pushed as well as show them who keeps stopping the important policies, they clam up because it doesn't mesh with their view on reality. These are the same people who vote anti abortion because they fear it will collapse society because everyone will keep aborting and that it's a sin against god while forgetting that: - There are plenty of people that want babies and won't abort. - Abortion ban also is banning abortions in the case of medical emergencies such as a development issue turning the embryo into a cancer ball or organs failing to develop resulting in a dead embryo. - Most common religions permit abortion in the situation of emergencies. - Abortion laws doesn't mean we'll force people to abort, if the govt wanted that, they'd infertilize people again without making it a whole political talking point. Meanwhile permitting it will let couples decide if they want a baby and cancel the process if they feel they're not in a situation to handle a baby. This would cover everything from younger couples who didn't understand the importance of protection to older couples who already have plenty of kids and didn't realize the factory was still operational. Sure, you'll have some people who will abort their own babies regularly because they like unprotected sex but they can already do that with morning after pills and in all honesty, they have little to no effect on the lives of anyone outside of the couple involved. If the argument was really about wanting better societal change, he'd be arguing for bans and better punishments regarding alcohol misuse. now we wait and see if he calls me a libtard since he didn't have any societal changes that could be used to defend his stance against you.

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Hubertino855@reddit

Massive wall of text... You Americans are insane I already posted my example 2 hours before you even wrote this thing....

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SinCityMayor@reddit

Nah, you have to look deeper into America's abortion policy. Most European countries allow abortions as late as 12-14 weeks, with the UK and Netherlands allowing abortion up to 24 weeks. Meanwhile in America there are six states that have NO LIMIT, and seventeen states that allow abortion up to 24 weeks. The number of states that are below the average (12-14 weeks) or outright banned abortion are 19 in total... less than half. Most people who defend abortion rights in the United States have no idea how far left we are compared to other Western countries.

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ARaptorInAHat@reddit

there is no law that forbids medically necessary abortions. all the cases that the woke media tells you about are medical malpractice

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Renegadeknight3@reddit

I see you ignored the smoking changes, which were a pretty large change to society at large

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mrboomtastic3@reddit

When you have examples, let me know. I'm not trolling. I just want to understand. Saying last 10 years and not giving an example doesn't help people who want to learn more. Learn more.

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ColdIceZero@reddit

"Any law that promotes clean air and water, food safety, or any form of consumer or worker protection is progressive bullshit; and I refuse to stand for it." -OP, probably

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Eldritch-Magnum@reddit

Progressives have such a good track record of actually sticking it to oil companies (oh wait they don't, LMAO)

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SpiderManEgo@reddit

Let's be real, big oil has our gov's balls in the palm of it's hand. Both parties are useless against them.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

That's because oil makes the world go around and continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

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Eldritch-Magnum@reddit

Oil will never ever go away until an alternative thats AT LEAST as cheap and as potent as oil rises.

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Cheeseheroplopcake@reddit

When people say "anime pfp? Opinion invalid" There's a good reason for it

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Why are you assuming they were better for society?

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shangumdee@reddit

I just vote for whoever can guarantee less 3rd worlders in my vicinity.

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Hug_The_NSA@reddit

It's really that simple

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InfiniteRaccoons@reddit

I agree they are insufferable but don't pretend like the idiots driving around with two massive trump flags on the lifted diesel that they use for Starbucks coffee runs and commuting to the office aren't also insufferable

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Hubertino855@reddit

Bro I live in Europe we here have different political mannerism unfortunately progressives are the same...

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SunderedValley@reddit

Democracy is a circus so you're obligated to vote for the funniest clown.

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PyroComet@reddit

Truest statement I've seen on this sub. People act like Trump is God's given savior when in reality, towards the end of his term in 2016, his own party was fighting amongst themselves. Kamala is no better. The democrats must think people are that fucking stupid to give us a woman candidate so late into the race. What the the fuck were they thinking. They must have really Trump to win because they handed him the election

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CowsGiveElixirOfLife@reddit

Looking away from his policies for a moment, Trump is pretty much the funniest politician. He would absolutely kill it in uk parliament

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CrushCoalMakeDiamond@reddit

You can't even call someone a liar in UK parliament, the civility rules there are ridiculously strict. Usually all they do is ask the MP to retract the statement that broke the rules and things carry on as normal, but Trump wouldn't be able to do that and would end up getting expelled from every session.

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Tomazim@reddit

Not at all, he would be laughed out of the house after they run rings around him.

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elphamale@reddit

That's what we did in Ukraine! But putin didn't find him funny.

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A_for_Anonymous@reddit

I think the most fun is delivered by watching people who take it seriously seething. And while MIGA clowns are fun to watch seething, there's a special pleasure in making wokegards, blue hair, white knights and stupid zoomers seethe, so it's always worth voting anti-woke.

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Material_Band5687@reddit

MIGA can now be interpreted as Make India Great Again because of Indians in Trump's inner circle

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Headachefree@reddit

It was the lesser evil.

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East-Direction6473@reddit

missing an Israel helicopter

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TheOmegaBigness@reddit

For some reason liberals have this idea in their head that just because they elites get helped doesn’t mean we don’t either. Inflation was far lower under Trump than under Biden and that affects everyone.

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__redruM@reddit

It’s the only reason I’m not really worried. He had a lot of wacky ideas the first time, but the day to day people he hired kept the wheels spinning, the only thing that worries me is the talk of “loyalty”. Yes men could be really dangerous for someone like Trump.

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CrushCoalMakeDiamond@reddit

Yeah his plan to subvert the election failed because Pence was loyal to something other than Trump. He won't make that mistake again. It was so pointless when people were dogging Vance for avoiding saying if he'd certify the election or not. It was always obvious he wouldn't certify if Trump told him not to, he wouldn't be chosen as his VP if he wasn't willing to fully submit.

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__redruM@reddit

Vance is as good as elected in 2028, there won’t be an issue. Cause when it’s important, the Dems don’t bother to vote.

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PyroKid883@reddit

Literally every politician is in league with rich elites.

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Mad-Reader@reddit

I mean, can you even stay in power while not being in league with the elites? Short of being an actual dictator and starting a purge that is.

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PyroKid883@reddit

Not these days. It's a requirement

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Daysleeper1234@reddit

It's just two camps of billionaires ˝fighting˝ each other who will be in first row, and who in the second when it comes to abusing the system for the next 4 years.

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Will_McLean@reddit

“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”

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XanII@reddit

Way too common reason everywhere in the west.

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ChickenNutBalls@reddit

Why is Trump flying the Canadian flag? 🇨🇦

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mildly_benis@reddit

Americucks will do anything for a small win and a feeling everything is under control again. Trust the plan!

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darvinvolt@reddit

I rooted(not a US citizen) for Trump because I wanted to see more funny shit like him blowing up that high ranking Iranian general and threatening Kim with nuclear war, so far he did threaten mexican cartels with a direct war using SF units that's ought to be a great show

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ywecur@reddit

Kid

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avrstory@reddit

He couldn't drain the swamp in his first term, but he's definitely going to do it this time! Maximum cope.

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blizmd@reddit

“There is no deep state!” “There is a deep state and it saved us from the worst excesses of Trump during his first term!” “During his first term he was held in check by a few good people around him…now they’re all gone, and he’s emboldened and out for revenge!”

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ChineseCracker@reddit

Wow, you just learned that the term "deep state" can be interpreted differently in different contexts to suit your narrative. Bravo. Next talk about how you hate "woke"! If your definition of "deep state" is just unelected people who are part of the government, then why did Trump appoint a vice president and secretaries? no one voted for them. Idiotic

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Snoot_Boot@reddit

How'd he go 4 years without pissing?

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Dubaku@reddit

>He didn't become a dictator in his first term, but he's definitely going to do it this time! Maximum cope.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

C O P E and S E E T H E

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Ottoblock@reddit

Not voting for the winning candidate and posting something like this is giggacope.

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sydneekidneybeans@reddit

This thread is full of losers lmfao

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LibertyBrah@reddit

Who is the liberal knockoff Ben Garrison that made that comic? I am officially dubbing them Bargain Ben Garrison.

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Mudbandit@reddit

I'm not American, but I just find it funny that so far the story of female attempts at being the president of the strongest nation in the world is also the story of being one shotted by a guy that stares right into the sun during an eclipse. In Kalamazoo's case it was a 360 no scope too

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Free-Design-8329@reddit

Isn’t the DNCs donor list pretty much a whos who of corporate oligarchs? Big tech, Wall Street, the mainstream media, the military industrial complex, etc?

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Josiah55@reddit

Ah yes, the anti-establishment candidate is the real lover of elites and not the candidate endorsed by Liz Cheney. If you think picking RFKJ for HHS secretary is an establishment pick for Big Pharma, you're out of touch with reality. Trump is literally choosing outsiders for every single appointment. You can call Trump a lot of things, but super pro establishment is not one of them.

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Dubaku@reddit

I find it funny that the Cheneys just jump to what ever party wants a forever war.

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SinCityMayor@reddit

This is exactly what every independent wanted. Democrats still fail to grasp this.

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Ok-Car1006@reddit

Should January 6 be considered a holiday?

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Mr_BruceWayne@reddit

Grab her by the pussy!!!

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RedRune0@reddit

Honesty in politics, whoduthunk.

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lobotominizer@reddit

FPBP as usual. I wanted to see liberal people seethe like a mofo. it was so~~~~~~ worth it

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StopCallinMePastries@reddit

Accusations of corruption are pretty rich coming from someone who lives in a nation with no political term limits.

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FullTimeHarlot@reddit

But a lot of women voted for Trump. You voted with women.

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Legalator@reddit

Daily reminder that women should be treated as properties, not humans.

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iceyorangejuice@reddit

The elites and corporations overwhelmingly support the democrats. It's not even in the same ballpark.

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American_Crusader_15@reddit

"*He is an honest liar...No one had ever seen somebody come from inside of that house outside and tell all the commoners we are doing everything that you think we are doing inside of that house. And he just went right back in the house and started playing the game again." -* Dave Chappelle

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Hubertino855@reddit

Every day I'm thankful I'm Polish you Americans are insane imagine thinking either economically liberal or societally liberal positions are good for nation or society XD The moment Republican policy think tanks stop being brain dead and move more economically to the centre Democratic party will cease to exist....

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vassago77379@reddit

Lmao Dems are backed by every major corporation, millionaire celebs and the media.... but Republicans somehow represent the elite... smh

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MissNibbatoro@reddit

Let’s just look at a couple of Trump’s picks, ignoring Trump’s own status as a billionaire who’s been buddy buddy with Diddy and Epstein: Secretary of the Treasury: Scott Bessent, openly gay man with a husband, previous partner at Soros Fund Management and founder of another investment firm Secretary of Energy: Chris Wright, CEO of the second largest fracking company in the U.S. Secretary of Commerce: Howard Lutnik, billionaire financial services executive who didn’t go into the office one day in September twenty odd years ago

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ReallyDumbRedditor@reddit

Voting for Trump means you're fine with rape and pedophilia, just FYI

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Ottoblock@reddit

"if you dont vote the way I do you're a pedophile" That will change their minds next time, post that for another 4 years and we'll see if it has any effect.

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Lost-Frosting-3233@reddit

Username checks out

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spottydogwoodbark@reddit

People who didn’t vote the way I did are stupid. I require no introspection as a result of this fact.

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ScottyUpdawg@reddit

I mean the Harris campaign got a lot more money from corporations like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and a myriad of other giant corporations

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SpaceCaseSixtyTen@reddit

i voted for trump for the memes and insanity that will come actually i did not vote because i left the USA 3 years ago and fuck politics and USA. Europe/Poland much better ^^

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Acrobatic-Jeweler642@reddit

I can agree with anon on this, I voted for him solely because it angers people I disagree with, neither of them are going to fix anything, but that's ok, the fallout from his election has been worth it!

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naked_short@reddit

Imagine being naive enough to believe a president can do anything he wants with no buy-in from powerful magnates. Lmao.

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Dickeronomous@reddit

Oh wow, coming from Canada this is rich.

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Deathbyseagulls2012@reddit

Half of these helicopters are domestic, they give me free money for letting them babysit mine. Yes. I unironically care more about the economy than your fat, ugly, son with long hair on estrogen.

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BigBoodles@reddit

The trust fund baby who shits in a gold toilet totally understands the plight of the common man.

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GEMMYbucket@reddit

Speak for yourself, I’ve made so much money since president Trump has been elected. Doesn’t take many brain cells to make the connection that Elon musk and crypto bros being so pro trump meant that Tesla and crypto was gonna pump big once President Trump secured the election victory 😌🤑🇺🇸

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Xayan@reddit

I'm just a European and every time I try to understand American perspective I can't help, but wonder what kind of psychiatric hospital I just wandered into

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petyrlannister@reddit

I voted for Trump to see Trumpers cry and wail “Trump tricked us” when he finishes his con.

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Project2025IsOn@reddit

Elites who deliver, as opposed to the academics who haven't done an honest day's work in their life.

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Mother_Tank_1601@reddit

Voting is gay

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nullv@reddit

Some have even described elections as fake.

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Lost-Frosting-3233@reddit

It’s definitely female-coded

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gentlemanjosiahcrown@reddit

Based

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TiredPanda69@reddit

They're all the elite. Don't vote for shit. You'll all forget in 4 years when the TV and social media scare you into thinking its necessary to vote for millionaires again.

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FreelancerFL@reddit

Same NGL If the system didn't want me voting for one elite vs the other they wouldn't have picked two and said "pick one jackass, like you have a real option"

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lordrummxx2@reddit

If he was for all that, they wouldn’t have tried to hard to stop him.

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UncleSugarShitposter@reddit

I voted for Trump because I hate the reddit blue hair people and I wanted to watch them seethe. The salt mine here was more than I ever could ever dream of. They threatened to kill themselves, got divorces, vasectomies, left the country. It was comedic gold.

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Wooden_Judge_9387@reddit

Me in the helicopter

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Boxing_joshing111@reddit

By voting for whoever makes a group cry he’s proving op right

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Iamkillboy@reddit

Anon is so sad that he will never get laid that he has to take out his frustration on them somehow. Unfortunately Trump is gonna come for his tendie bucks and his vidya.

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Bookkeeper-Terrible@reddit

The problem is that it’s not really a choice when there are only two options everytime. People in USA can only show that they want a change by voting for the same party that they were voting against just 4 years ago. Or by not voting at all. Peak democracy lol

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basediftrue@reddit

>Guns ‘R Us Looks like the toy store has been doing pretty well since the rebranding.

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durashka228@reddit

you hate left because it rules your country i hate right because it rules my country we are not the same

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