What's going on with the romanian elections?

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StoryAffectionate764@reddit

I'm trying to educate myself on this matter because it seems Romania is disregarded. My question is as such: do you as citizens of a nation feel the European Union did not benefit your country?

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As a Romanian from diaspora I was so shocked yesterday night, like "Georgescu! Who tf is Georgescu?" but even my mates from Romania were as stupefied as myself. It's like it's a parallel world we ignore, who lives amongst us. What are these tiktok hobos who vote an obscure populist guy who seem more dangerous than the worst right wing nationalist nighmare I even saw in Romania - but who pledges allegiance to Russia? Compared to him, George Simion , the next in line, seem like a reasonable guy. Frankly I'm so pissed off. I know most of our leaders are morons, that lots of Romanians are more than deceived and desperate to see no one represents them and for many life is hard and harder, but I haven't imagined they will vote for a tiktok guy who is overtly pro russian and SO hostile to Europe and SO MUCH into religion. I used to mock US democrats quitting the USA because Trump, but now I feel like unfriending any Romanian voting for that guy. So you can mock me, be my guest. All about him is frightening. He's a nightmare. Lasconi whom he will confront in the 2nd tour is a meh meh, but honestly to me is clear at this point what means the "lesser evil" and what I have to vote for.

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max99000@reddit

Romania needs a big shake-up and he's the guy to do it. Media pinned him to the wall because they are sponsored by the big parties. Ion Tiriac seems to like him, like many other entrepreneurs and I believe these people are not TikTok voters. Fear of communism is unfounded. People are more connected now and don't live in the same era as 50 years ago. Fear of change, yes it's real but we need someone with a strong stance to rule, not some TV presenter or retarded thieving party candidates.

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Infinite_Procedure98@reddit

A strong leader doesn't mean a good leader. It's not because all mainstream politicians are corrupt and incapable that an outsider is better. Romania is ENOUGH intoxicated by religion, traditionalism, homophobia and antisemitism and pseudo-science, they don't require going even more into it. Anyways. In 1990 Iliescu was voted by 80%. If this guy takes 50% it means in 35 years 30% of Romanias has brighten up. Let's be optimistic.

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max99000@reddit

You are right about Iliescu the immortal. Out of the two candidates in the final he's the least worse for Romania's future. At least he is sincere and the others can't compete with that. Nato is not exactly WOW for Romania. Wait till Trump is in power to see big changes there and since when is being at war with your neighbours help. A leader should make peace and trade deals with everyone and not be influenced by East or West. Don't need to leave EU or Nato to achieve that.

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Ejgherli@reddit

in Spain the Romanian Orthodox Church campaigned for this guy. successfully campaigned I might add.

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glorychildthe@reddit

I'm seeing a lot of posts lately of people that voted for Calin Georgescu coming out and saying they will change their vote because they never knew all the declarations and controversies of this guy. I think the fact that he ran under the radar helped him a lot since he wasn't under constant scrutiny like the perceived top 5 candidates. Now everything in media in Romania is blowing up with all of his controversial stances. I think it is especially the pro-Putin/Russia stances that will be his biggest downfall because unlike the West, Russian disinformation and propaganda doesn't fly as well in Romania. It is too ingrained in our history to be skeptical of Russian intentions, and while he may have gotten quite popular, I do not see a world where he wins once Romanians are more familiar with his actual stances.

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amigdala80@reddit

German elections will be the real shock

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ShakiraGotCheatedToo@reddit

![gif](giphy|NTur7XlVDUdqM) Honestly, we don't know either.

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

Shock. And before people commenting Reddit is a bubble. I come from a religious family. When the first extremists parties came during Covid I knew about them. They had a massive social media presence and protests on the streets. I see Sosoaca on Instagram even if I don't follow her. Half of my family votes for the main party (pension) and one quarter far right. So I know in general about the power of the popular political parties. But the guy who just took 2 mil votes and the majority? I heard about only 3 times. He did not appear in polls. He did not appear in debates. Refused some minor interviews. He did not campaign on TV. He is independent, which again is weird, like where did you get your money. Has no political promises only vague things. So yeah, first shock is that practically he appeared out of nowhere and took first place. Second shock? The main party who has been in power (or partly) since communism is almost on third place and might not enter the race. A final presidential race without the 2 main parties? Never happened. Third shock. Our dear departed Romanians in the West voted with the guy who is anti west. So yeah, thanks again for trying to fk with us from your comfort. While the others Romanians from East voted with our other candidate that is pro UE. Special Thanks Moldova for your votes! Fourth shock. Basically all previous bets are off. We suspected the far right party would split the votes with the main party to enter final round. And basically had a reround of people going to vote the person they hate because they don't want the crazy one in office. Again. Far right is popular in Romania. No shock here. But we had one popular candidate already that his party is on the third/second place.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

somehow all this far rights parties dominate the social media spectrum by far

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

In our country at least yes. The far right comes with empty promises for the young claiming they are anti system. And the young you can find it on social media. We have only one TV station dedicated to far right that is controlled by a convict hiding in Serbia. Our main parties in government use bribes (pensions or benefits for government employees) and TV media. I see mostly mayors from the main parties on Instagram and Facebook.

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One_Ad_3499@reddit

Yes but all other political parties have zero solutions. Fake solutions are better then zero solutions.

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

Each party has proposed solutions. Problem with extremist is that they tend to burn the country. Look at Zimbabwe what the same policies that our extremist politicians proposed made their economy.

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One_Ad_3499@reddit

They are in power for decades. Covid was PR disaster. Prices are way up. People are angry. Far right can only be stopped with new faces

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

Prices are up everywhere..Far right appears in general to dumb people who believe in easy solutions. To bad we already had a dictator that show those national solutions don't work but people forget. You stop far right with teaching history and economy. But 50% of teenagers abandon school so what history to teach.

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kichba@reddit

Because they know to evolve in a way the more liberal parties don't. Social media had a huge role on trumps victory according one report.

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2024-2025@reddit

Cuz Russia is sponsoring them. Russia successfully manipulated Georgia this year, Georgia is now most likely lost to Russia. They tried doing the same in Moldova and failed just barely. Russia is strong on the internet thanks to its massive state sponsored troll army

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

its easy to blame russia for the elections results in europe and usa. Dont you think ? The root has to be deeper, the people are hardy unsatisfied with the left since they are dogshit. we claim russians are backwards in the war and send people to die like worthless orcs en masse but on the other side they are capable to manipulate/form/elect goverments that suits them directly through voting. its very interesting, they are masterminds and regarded simultaneously

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2024-2025@reddit

It’s not weird people suspect Russian inventions when it’s literally proven that Russia does indeed affect elections in Europe. It was proven 100 K voted were bought in Moldova in this year’s referendum. In this case in Romania, the guy is pro-Russian, with is not the usual in Romania. Polls didn’t even mention him and no one knew who he was, there’s no history of independent candidates being at the top, he is an independent. So this is not just unexpected, this is extremely unexpected, a guy hitting 1-5 % at the polls ended up being the most voted guy in the country.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

ur claiming Russia is able to elect ur president. If they are capable of this were fucked. Its not just russians, those guys are usually the full anti establishment package. The FPÖ won in Steiermark historically after they were investegated for finicial fraud. You cant make that shit up and one of peoples reasoning was literally because of our green President. (since he refused to put FPÖ in position to form a goverment, wich they couldnt anyway since nobody wants to work with them but guess what instead of just letting them fail to form a goverment the President did some stupid shit and broke with the tradition of forming goverments) I mean the outcome shocks me considering the hate ive seen for russians by romanians on reddit i think people have enough of liberalism/individualism, and i think we reached the peek with the stupid transgender debate.

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kruska345@reddit

Russia isnt the only one pushing far right. US has a strong right wing lobby as well. In Croatia, we have a group of extremist catholics kneeling and praying once a month on the main square, which was proven to be connected with Polish right wing. There are more right wing lobbies than we think

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2024-2025@reddit

It’s not really far right I’m talking about. It’s the specifically pro-Russian agenda I’m suspicious for

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kruska345@reddit

Because intolerance spreads easier than tolerance. Its easier to convince people that a random scapegoat is a reason for all their problems, than to rhink rationally. Internet was supposed to be a peak of human society but it seems like its downgrading society a lot. Before the internet morons could share their ideas in front of a local shop with a beer in hand. Nowadays not only internet convinced them that they are not morons, they have found whole societies of morons who think alike

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filippe@reddit

> Third Shock. Our dear departed Romanians in the West voted with the guy who is anti west. This is so angering and keeps happening in my own Polish diaspora, too. Poles near Chicago are some of the Trumpiest, PiS+Konfederacja-loving Poles in the world. Do we know if the Romanians you speak of are moreso recent departures or those that left 30-40 years ago?

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

I understand your frustration. So in general for far right we tend to have young uneducated people voting for it. The ones that left during communism or after communism are more established there and don't vote anymore. But the young and unneducated have a fear that they might return in Romania and hate the current party systems in power so they try to vote anti-system.

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muscainlapte@reddit

How about you don't put all Romanians living abroad in a box? Many of us are as shocked as you are and some don't even know who that guy is

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SwimmingHelicopter15@reddit

Sorry I forgot to write majority. But this is my opinion on those working in UE voting for Sosoaca and Georgescu. The guy got half of diaspora and almost a quarter in the country. The diaspora played a huge role. Just like they did sending Sosoaca in the Eu parliament.

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muscainlapte@reddit

Maybe you should say the poorly educated Romanians living in the diaspora. Even a single brain cell suffices to make you disgusted with those clowns. I doubt that well educated Romanians living abroad would vote for a clown to represent us

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-Koltira-@reddit

I heard that some totally based guy did really well out of nowhere, and woke people are loosing it

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AndreiTatescu@reddit

He was part of a UN sustainability board and the club of Rome. To me I find it very strange that this guy who is rubbing shoulders with the elites is saying based things. It seems too good to be true to me.

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Vegetable_Radio3873@reddit

Did you listen to him? Going beyond the so called based things?

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42not34@reddit

"based"? His famous words regarding political stances are "Antonescu and Codreanu can be considered heroes and martyrs" (that's what got him expelled from the far right party, imagine that!), "Deveselu anti-missile shield is a shame of Romanian diplomacy" and Romania needs "Russian wisdom".

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CecubeCasual@reddit

Isnt Romania anti-Russian coz of Moldova?

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Vegetable_Radio3873@reddit

Yes. But this is a vote anti-system, not necessarily for Russia. Not sure what the fuck is going on.

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TransylvanianINTJ@reddit

We’ve been infiltrated… now we can only hope the major political parties will back up Lasconi so the Russian puppet doesn’t get elected president.

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PhoenixDood@reddit

Ever heard of 1933?

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Brumbulli@reddit

Seems about right. Expect a wave of returnees from France, UK, and Germany who will chant Romania First and would probably look up to Mr. Putin.

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Brumbulli@reddit

This explains why the Albanian prime minister wants to block access to Tik Tok. He controls Facebook and Instagram, but can't beat the Chinese democratic algorithm.

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MegasKeratas@reddit

Someone... >!stole!< the elections. /s

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Dim_off@reddit (OP)

😂

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adaequalis@reddit

1st place: neo-nazi candidate (22.95%) 2nd place: centre-right progressive candidate (19.17%) 3rd place: conservative left-wing candidate (19.12%) 4th place: far-right candidate (13.86%) the guys in 3rd and 4th were predicted to finish top 2 and head to the run off. this didn’t happen. the 2nd place candidate finished only 2k votes ahead of the 3rd place guy. no one i know had heard about the 1st place guy before the election actually happened, he was an outsider. second round is in two weeks and it will be spicy. i expect all pro-democracy forces to rally behind the 2nd place candidate, but there is a chance that the party of the guy in 3rd place might instruct people to abstain

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Dim_off@reddit (OP)

And what does that mean for the parliamentary elections. Do you expect the same trends there too

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adaequalis@reddit

they will be a complete shitshow. impossible to predict at the moment. i expect the far-right parties to get 25%, the progressives 18%-ish, the conservative left wingers 25-30% with the remainder being divided between a conservative centrist party (who backed the guy in 5th place), the hungarian party, and various small ones. forming a government will be impossible unless the progressives and the conservative left-wingers reach some sort of accord, which is out of the question as they really hate each other lol

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Dim_off@reddit (OP)

That percents remind me the bulgarian elections. Same situation after 7 preliminary elections

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tatespizza@reddit

![gif](giphy|xUOwGpaKq5xjHNz8Bi) The future's lookin pretty good

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kruska345@reddit

To be fair, the future of whole Europe looks like that

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EdliA@reddit

It's a lot of old millennials and boomers that are now learning there's a huge number of young people that don't hang around on TV or instagram. It's mainly a shock to them.

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Steven_Dj@reddit

The old dynosaurs of politics now learn there a little elephant in the room, called Tik Tok. And they never saw it coming. They don\`t know how to handle it. Because the devices in their time were guns and handcuffs, Today, the keyboard is more powerful than any gun out there.

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alexxela8@reddit

High hopes for Lasconi to win second round of voting, no idea who this Georgescu was, insane he managed to be first, everyone thought it was going to be Ciolacu vs either Lasconi or Simion, but it's become Georgescu vs Lasconi, Ciolacu is being Lasconi with like 2100 votes, but he has no chance of passing her at this point as most of the remaining votes are from Bucharest = Lasconi and diaspora = Georgescu and Lasconi.

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Jujux@reddit

A nutjob that pooled around 5-6% ended up first to everyone's shock. It's a combination of many things, I think. - extremely weak candidates, 75% of votes were for the lesser evil/least retarded - high inflation which lead to high prices, making people look towards more extreme candidates - soaring euroscepticism in the country (over things like the Schengen shithousery and such) - our two largest parties, who were historical enemies banded together in the last couple of years to rule the country, which has lost them both a lot of votes that mostly went to Georgescu - social media where countless bots run unhinged

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bl00regardqkaz00@reddit

Please hold as we're trying to figure out ourselves wtf is going on. We'll be with you shortly.

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Dim_off@reddit (OP)

Sounds like there's a complete electional earthquake 🤣

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apalepexp201@reddit

Fucking cancer that's what is happening.

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