Ain't No Party Like A Third Party

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lifasannrottivaetr@reddit

I can’t vote: Felony conviction. I don’t mean to go on a rant here, but the government has a thicket of laws that essentially make felons and sexual predators into second class citizens and yet the state lies supine as a convicted felon and known rapist ascends to the highest office of the land. This is absurd.

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trustedbyamillion@reddit

You have the luxury of never being called for jury duty though. Could you vote if you lived in a different state?

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AloofusMaximus@reddit

state lies supine as a convicted felon and known rapist ascends to the highest office of the land.

Can you speficially name the aforementioned felonies? Was rape one of them?

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lifasannrottivaetr@reddit

Felony conviction: https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-deliberations-jury-testimony-verdict-85558c6d08efb434d05b694364470aa0

Accusations of rape: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

These are easy google searches.

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AloofusMaximus@reddit

I asked you to specically name his felonies. I'm aware of the situation, and i have 2 degrees in law.

Being a felon yourself, you should be intimately aware that an accusation doesn't mean being guilty.

I don't even like Trump, I think he's a turd. I actively hate the unilateral application of a (flimsy at best) legal doctrine specifically to try and damage a political enemy. I will always have an issue with any level of government trampling on an individual.

There's probably something about your case I'd be outspoken about too.

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lifasannrottivaetr@reddit

I thought about getting into the weeds on the legal merits of the campaign finance fraud case, which has been stretched into a felony by NY state and should have been handled by the Southern District. But that wasn’t really my point. I’m talking about the state being able to defend itself against a demagogue. I’m simply amazed that the state was unable to neutralize Trump, who is a very real threat to its status quo. The 01/06/21 attack is the most obvious example, as well as the appointment of judges who support an authoritarian presidency. The fact that the state has bumbled the various legal cases and the Epstein connection for four years is astonishing. Is this the Weimar Republic or what?

I’ve seen the government trample many individuals, but I’m not too worried about rich assholes like Trump. They will always slip the net. I did time with Paul Manafort in 2020 at FCI Loretto and was there when he walked free on a CARES Act release months ahead of anyone else.

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AlphaTangoFoxtrt@reddit

Sexual Predators should not even be citizens. Scum of the earth.

Felons, depends on severity. Too many crimes are felonies that should not be.

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Kutharos@reddit

Family: Why did you vote for a third party?
Me: So I can sleep at night.

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P-funk88@reddit

Choices were shit, so I wrote myself in for prez, and my dog in for VP. My conscience is clear.

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rickyramrod@reddit

I think your dog would’ve made an excellent VP and I say this without having ever met your dog.

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daisymae25@reddit

I know Chase was beyond unpopular, but I'm glad I voted for him. I didn't want to be associated with the MAGA crowd.

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Enigma-3NMA@reddit

Agreed. He wasn't going to win, but I'd rather support the party and have another vote of growth

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MechEngAg@reddit

I buckled and voted for Trump. If I regret that decision, I will never vote for the 2p system again.

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themarketliberal@reddit

Chase is more anti Ron Paul than Trump. Better to have just written in Ron Paul if having a clean conscience was a concern. You voted for a Democrat who endorsed taxpayer funded trans surgeries for prisoners.

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Rvtrance@reddit

Yeah I hear you. It’s also great if someone wants to ask, who you voted for? you can tell them you voted for a man that they’ve never heard of. who will never be president, and whose policies they cannot attack. because they do not know what they are. It’s hard being third party. The Dems hate us for wanting peace in Ukraine and the GOP hates us for wanting to not be involvement (or peace if possible) in Israel. Everyone loves a good war nowadays. Just only the one your side likes for whatever reason.

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interwebzdotnet@reddit

I had someone tell me that I was anti LGBTQ for voting libertarian. The length of silence when I told them that he was gay was priceless.

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Rvtrance@reddit

It’s ridiculous that they don’t even know the man’s name, policies, sexual orientation or anything about him. But if you’re not a democrat, you must be a homophobe, in their minds. Gay rights and marriage was always on my libertarian bingo card. It follows the axiom of do whatever you want as long as it doesn’t impede on rights of others. And that axiom is the one that I live by. And while I’m venting, I also hate how they’re treating the Gadson flag trying to turn it into the Nazi flag or the confederate flag. They tried the same thing with Pepe the frog but failed. Let’s make that happen with the flag too. Some conservatives do use it, but I also know many that don’t even know what it means. They’re well meaning, but they thought that it was like a military thing and I must’ve been in the army or something.

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First_West_4227@reddit

Same. Although I’ve disagreed with some of Chase’s past actions and campaign decisions, I agree with him more than with Trump or Kamala. Pretty much what Dave Smith discussed about Chase in episode 1191 of his “Part of the Problem” podcast. But still, I preferred Chase. I truly believe that Trump said anything and promised everything to be elected, and Maga is like a cult at this point.

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Dasinterwebs2@reddit

I voted for Vermin Supreme

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SSyankee99@reddit

Yeah same here. I got to vote with a clean conscience this time.

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daisymae25@reddit

Yup, exactly. When I weighed the lesser of two evils option, I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

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jbird669@reddit

Thank you! The lesser evil is still evil.

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BIBLICALTHINKER2@reddit

CHASE CHASE CHASE CHASE! WOOP WOOP (In case you couldn't tell I voted for bro too)

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steadyachiever@reddit

He wasn’t on my ballot : (

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Rvtrance@reddit

I was surprised to find that he was on mine. Jo made it all all 50 states last time right?

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ChiefsFanInMD@reddit

Same

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DragonSurferEGO@reddit

Sing it! Ain’t no party like voting for a 3rd party cuz a vote for a 3rd party don’t win! (But should)

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Rvtrance@reddit

Don’t you hate it when people tell you you’re wasting a vote? I just want to tell them that anybody that didn’t vote for the winning person is wasting a vote. If a man votes Trump and his wife votes for Kamala they’re effectively canceling each other out. The only people who didn’t effectively waste their votes were those who were the ones who put the winning candidate over the top. And that’s all counted through electoral college anyway. So the individual vote becomes very hard to pin down. The moral of the story is become familiar with ALL major party candidates and vote for the one you would like to be president. simple as that. The two party system is really beaten into the head of every American It seems. It’s crazy to me that people think they have to vote Republican Democrat or not vote at all. Especially after this first/only debate with Biden, I wanted to scream from the rooftops that third parties exist.

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DragonSurferEGO@reddit

I couldn’t agree more. Of all the times an election would have benefited from a 3rd party candidate, I can’t think of a better election than this last one. Having a libertarian candidate who ran on improving the economy through sounds policy, modern globalization, path to citizenship instead of mass deportation. Offering a candidate who is intelligent, articulate, and respectful of rule of law, democracy, and not a felon; would have been incredible. They wouldn’t have won because of what you mentioned, but they could have argued against Trump delusions.

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Rvtrance@reddit

Yeah Oliver, Stein and RFK Jr. should have all been on that debate stage that night. Maybe that would have made people think twice. If a third party candidate was going to win it would have been RFK. But people would have at least heard libertarian ideas, maybe for the first time. It could be a minor victory that leads to an eventual major victory.

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skoz2008@reddit

Is it weird I read this while singing. 1,2,3,4 by cooilo 🤔🤔🤔

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steadyachiever@reddit

Honestly, even if not win just be present at debates and offer a voting choice other than abstinence.

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1320Fastback@reddit

I was talking with a guy at work about voting Libertarian he said "your throwing your vote away" and I asked if me voting libertarian affected his candidate and he said "yes" and then I looked him straight in the eye and said "Then I did not throw my vote away."

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