How to start a train driving career?
Posted by No-Communication2985@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 32 comments
Moving back to the UK from Australia in a few weeks and looking to start something different in my life at 33.
I've always loved trains, the sounds, the ride etc etc.
How easy would it be to start a career train driving? I've looked online but getting a bit confused as where to start.
Thanks in advance.
GuybrushFunkwood@reddit
Just hang around a station and see if one of the drivers leaves the keys in while they nip to the toilet. Can’t be that hard surely to God the bloody thing only goes forward and back?
Matterbox@reddit
While they got to the toilet, while they go on strike more like it.
TheKingMonkey@reddit
The internet tells me that they just sit on their arse all day and occasionally press a button or two.
Notsurewhattoput1@reddit
3 kills and its early retirement is what I heard. Get lucky/unlucky and you could be retired full pension on year 1.
TheKingMonkey@reddit
You’ve been watching too many Mackenzie Crook movies my friend.
Notsurewhattoput1@reddit
That can't be an actual name
TheKingMonkey@reddit
It’s the name of the actor who is most famous for playing Gareth in The Office but he also starred in a movie called Three and Out that perpetuates the myth you mentioned earlier.
IOnlyUpvoteBadPuns@reddit
But I'm standing here in the pouring rain, Where the fuck's my fucking train?
FairlyInconsistentRa@reddit
Before you apply I’d look into doing some psychometric and verbal reasoning tests.
I applied for a drivers job a while ago (already work in the industry) and the application came with some psychometric tests.
If you’re successful in the application and interview it’ll be roughly 12 months of training before you’re qualified. This includes a lot of classroom stuff, route learning, traction learning and simulator. You’ll be paired up with a driver mentor for a few months before becoming qualified.
I fell it’s also fair to mention that it’s not just press a button and go. Drivers need to know the routes they’re driving - every signal, set of points, every station, speed limits, level crossings etc. You also need to know the traction too.
Flagship_Panda_FH81@reddit
They're going through recruitment at the moment, GWR and Southeastern have had processes that closed in the last few weeks. Just check the relevant career pages of operators you're eligible to work for.
You'll need to live within a certain time-distance of a depot, usually it's an hour but other times for the London ones it can be less time.
I'm given to understand that with the backdated pay-rise, they're anticipating losing a lot of drivers soon (also covid disrupted their flow of new drivers), so there may be more processes.
The application process itself is a standard form giving your education and competencies, then they'll start doing situational judgement tests, online. Things like "you work in a medium sized box factory and an employee tells you they hate boxes, rank these 4 responses in terms of helpfulness"
If you're through, they'll do online assessments and if you're successful there'll be assessment centre with, you guessed it, more assessments. The focus is on concentration, reactions, ability to multitask and ignore distractions, precision and speed of work. The also test your ability to learn.
After that, interviews etc and then on a select list, then training.
It's very competitive, Southeastern had 15,000 applicants for 170 places.
No-Communication2985@reddit (OP)
Thank you for your detailed response. Didn't realise it was such a competitive industry to get into.
Flagship_Panda_FH81@reddit
No worries! It's competitive because the conditions and pensions are very very good.
NrthnLd75@reddit
It's a lot harder to pass the exams then you'd think. Involves a lot of memorising routes (every signal, danger area, junction etc).
28374woolijay@reddit
Also because so many 5-year olds want to be a train driver. It's just a very desirable job.
J_Artiz@reddit
The real question would be is he capable of passing the drivers psychometrics. The testing is a prerequisite before even getting an interview and from personal experience they're difficult and is why so many people aren't eligible to be a train driver.
If he's serious about being a train driver then he'll want to get a job on the railway as the railway loves to hire from within as there's terminology that the average Joe doesn't understand.
notanotherloginname@reddit
I’d suggest posting it on here https://www.railforums.co.uk
theModge@reddit
Or even r/uktrains
I'm tangentially involved in the rail industry and have briefly seen how rigorous driver training and selection is: they certainly don't take everyone who applies and the training is very detailed
Pinetrees1990@reddit
Honestly they are super difficult to get into. It's extremely well paid job for what it is.
My cousin started working on the trains (cleaner) then working at the depot. Then started being a train shunter and then was finally able to get in the door to become a train driver. It took him 4/5 years in total and alot of networking.
Chungaroo22@reddit
You could say it'll take quite a lot of... training.
I'll see myself out.
-C0rcle-@reddit
Ha.
Pinetrees1990@reddit
Why Ha? He got out drinking with the drivers, they helped him through the process and when he went to the interview the interviewer knew him and how hard he had worked.
Bethlizardbreath@reddit
I’m assuming it was the unintended pun that made them say “Ha”
Networking- Rail network.
Pinetrees1990@reddit
Fair!
RowlyBot12000@reddit
Rail network. You punned without realising.
Welsh-Niner@reddit
This was the route a friend took (working up not the exact same jobs) but a friends GF recently got a job and she had absolutely no experience. They are trying to diversify now, getting younger people in as a lot of train drivers (naturally as it’s a well paid job for life) are getting on a bit and it’s a male dominated role. It’s wrong to put someone off based on second hand experiences.
SlightlyMithed123@reddit
Take a look at Freightliner.
They operate the Freight Trains and offer a Training course. Very well paid but anti-social hours and you can’t really drink.
Very good money but obviously very competitive.
Welsh-Niner@reddit
Look online regularly for jobs.
They are trying to diversify now and bring in younger people. A friends GF who has no prior experience in the sector landed a job as a train driver, they do months of intensive training.
The advice she gave me was to do a lot of research, she was constantly on message boards familiarising herself and learning, she read up on the company website etc, this may be something you do anyway prior to going for a job. A friend of mine has been a train driver for the same company for over a decade and he gave me pretty much the same advice.
You won’t need any experience at all so don’t let that put you off, look at the company near to where you plan on moving back to as they’re mostly regional.
scorzon@reddit
OP asking how to be a train driver today. 2 years later OP turns up on the finance subs asking who the good wealth management companies are.
No-Communication2985@reddit (OP)
What?
scorzon@reddit
Train driver. Very very well paid once experienced. It was a slightly tongue in cheek comment
ThreeRandomWords3@reddit
OP is in Australia. They would be staying there if they were looking for a well paid job.
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