Question about historical airline liveries
Posted by Many-Composer1029@reddit | aviation | View on Reddit | 8 comments
Back in the 1960s and 70s, airline liveries regularly had a black area on the nose underneath the cockpit windows. Sometime in the 1970s, I remember asking a pilot about this, and they said it reduced glare. By the 1980s, these paint schemes started to disappear. I'm wondering what the reason was for the change?
spacecadet2399@reddit
It's just not necessary at all except on a few models like this with very long noses. An A320, for example, would not benefit from this whatsoever. We can't even see the nose if we try.
The concept of it, though, is the same as it is for car hoods or even baseball players wearing eye black. Black absorbs light; you can't make a paint any other color that absorbs light as well as black does. Doesn't matter if it's matte or even totally flat. White reflects light; that's why it looks white. Black reflects nothing, which is why it looks black. It's just physics.
So that's why they did it in the first place. Why they stopped I'm sure is a mix of it not really being that big of an issue even in planes like the 747 combined with simple branding and aesthetics. Airlines are businesses and even if it means the pilots need to deal with a very slight amount of added glare, they're not going to mess up their livery with a big black splotch on the nose.
FWIW, most airlines never did this to begin with. The example above is probably the most extreme you're going to find. TWA is the only US airline I know of that did it; AA seems to have mocked some up with the black brow but I can't find an actual example of one they painted that way. Pan Am's 747's were always just white up front, as were Northwest's.
ObservantOrangutan@reddit
the anti glare paint became available in more colors, and so airlines repainted them over time to match.
Similar to the a350 raccoon mask. You can order one without it, but it still has the same anti glare properties as the black paint.
PandaCreeper201@reddit
Are there raccoon-less a350s operating?
Swedzilla@reddit
Not long a go I read (on Reddit, I think) that Airbus don’t do raccoon-less a350
2StormyGale@reddit
The new paint jobs are using prepainted antiglare pannels around the windshields.
thatCdnplaneguy@reddit
In some cases, they just painted the same scheme colour but in a flat variant to reduce glare. It also is not needed as much on aircraft that have a “steeper” nose profile in front of the cockpit. Once the angle is close to 45degress or more, there is no way for light to reflect into the cockpit.
big-mister-moonshine@reddit
Maybe it's as simple as airlines deciding that the paint job looked better without the black stripe, so they told pilots to deal with it.
triple7freak1@reddit
I cannot answer but the black looked sooo nice!!
The old liveries were simply the best