What are some car history tidbits that are not well known or that we take for granted?
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knowledgeable_diablo@reddit
Volkswagen was set up, funded by and kept going by the British post WWII to introduce and maintain stability in the German economy post war as it was totally and thoroughly bankrupt and not a possible ongoing concern.
badpuffthaikitty@reddit
The British government tried to give VW away but no allied car manufacturer wanted it. Ford and Riley thought buying VW was a waste of time and money.
zzyzx85@reddit
A Volvo engineer patented the 3 point seat belt; however, the company decided to make the patent available for free to all car manufacturers in the interest of safety over profits.
Good guy Volvo.
pm-me-racecars@reddit
Alternatively, the guy who patented the intermittent windshield wiper tried selling it to the big 3, got rejected by them, and then successfully sued Ford, GM, and Chrysler for patent infringement when they started using it anyway.
GraceParagonique24@reddit
That was a good movie too
srcorvettez06@reddit
Volvo also warranties all non wear replacement parts for life. If you pay to replace a non wear item then any subsequent failure is free replacement for as long as you own the car. My wife’s car has gotten two airbag sensors and three sets of trailing arm bushings (daily dirt roads) for free.
Snazzy21@reddit
The rise of apathetic owners in vehicle maintenance is probably 80% the result of going away from carburetors.
For a carbureted engine to be reliable, it takes some dedication. You have to adjust the jetting when temperature changes, you have to know how and when to apply the choke, you have to set the idle. Each car had it's own behavior, some chokes needed the gas pedal to be pressed before starting cold.
So when carbureted engines went away, so did the most persistent annoyance that required people to have some knowledge about their car.
hannahranga@reddit
You're not wrong but also fuck fiddling with carbs. I enjoy working on cars and I'd still rather troubleshooting an ecu
Snazzy21@reddit
I'm glad you can still get motorcycles with them, it's the last truly analog experience left and it's tolerable when it's that simple. But having 4 or 8 of them to adjust and clean is nightmare fuel.
Ethanol fuel has made them more temperamental. You'll feel like a boss when you tune one correctly, they're a mechanical Tamagotchi.
Dooster1592@reddit
The 6.9L (and subsequent 7.3L) Indirect Injection (IDI) Ford diesel back in 1983-1994 practically kicked off the diesel wars between Ford, Dodge, and Chevy.
Chevy was trying to a year prior in 1982 with their 6.2L diesel but... It wasn't great, to say the least. In 1992 it got a bit better when they turbocharged the 6.5L diesel - but 2001 is when they really entered the competition with the Duramax diesel.
The Cummins was (and still is) a great engine, but a lot of people didn't like how hard it could be to start it in extremely cold conditions, plus it sounded like a tractor due to its engine configuration. When Ford dropped the 6.9L, its glow plug system allowed for easier cold starts and was much quieter in comparison while still being fuel efficient. While it didn't have as much torque as its inline-6 turbocharged competition, it was enough to do what people needed while outperforming Chevys 6.2L offering at the time.
On that note, another fun fact about the 6.9L is that, like Chevys 6.2L, it didn't have a turbo initially - and consequently they were slow as fuck, although their throttle cable and mechanical injection design made them very responsive. They supplemented some of the torque differences from their main competitor (Cummins) by running a compression ratio in the neighborhood of 20-21.5:1 throughout its production run. For comparison, the 5.9L Cummins at the time ran 16.3:1.
After awhile, there was a Banks turbo add-on that you could throw onto the 6.9L/7.3L - problem was, due to the higher compression ratio you couldn't run more than about 10psi of boost without risking popping the head gaskets.
In response to Chevy adding a factory turbocharger to its 6.5L diesel in 1992 that bumped its torque output to 380ft-lb - from 1993-1994 you could get a factory turbo charger on the Ford 7.3L, which increased its torque output to 388ft-lb. There were some tweaks made to the engine design to better accommodate it, although as far as I can tell it still maintained its 21.5:1 compression ratio. There were some inefficiencies in the turbo system that are commonly believed by enthusiasts to have been intentionally not addressed so Ford wouldn't step on their own feet in terms of sales for the 7.3L Powerstroke diesel that followed - although this ( obviously) was never confirmed by Ford.
In summary, the modern diesel war you see today between the Big 3 in the US - where they're all advertising insane amounts of torque and towing capacity out of their diesel engines - is a result of 20+ years of innovation and competition originating from that point in time.
Capri280@reddit
On the topic of heating, there used to be gasoline burning cabin heaters, mainly in air cooled cars like the beetle
hannahranga@reddit
In diesels you can get a diesel coolant heater for extra heat in winters
Captain_Alaska@reddit
And another titbit is air cooled cars (like the Beetle or 911) got heat for their normal cabin heaters off the exhaust, by intaking cool air and passing it through a sleeve that went over the exhaust manifold into the air vents.
These systems are current extinct in cars but they're still found in many general aviation aircraft like the ubiquitous Cessna 172.
rudbri93@reddit
Its decently known, but Rover's 3.5l v8? Purchased from GM after they decided a small aluminum v8 wasnt worth the money. However Oldsmobile did offer it briefly with a turbo charger and methanol injection in the Jetfire.
Doip@reddit
And when they sold the v6 to AMC and bought it back once they realized how much it liked turbos (spanked the 455) the machinery bolted right back down to the same foundations it originally had decades before
imjoeking69@reddit
That’s the v6 that became the 3800 right?
DeadDove_donotupvote@reddit
Never late in a 3.8
Doip@reddit
Yep
Brilliant_Mistake_@reddit
I was pulled over at a traffic seatbelt checkpoint and written up. I tried to explain that in 1963 my VW bus wasn’t required to have seatbelts and I didn’t need to retrofit them either. It was obviously thrown out in court but such a waste of time.
Cake-Over@reddit
The fender portholes on old Buicks were supposed to light up like the exhaust on an aircraft. Also, three portholes indicated the smaller engine, four the larger mill.
printaport@reddit
Modern diesel engines still use a block heater in the winter. Not a flame, but it's the same concept.
shitonmyfac@reddit
I’ve seen people make a campfire under a dozer to try and get things flowing. Thank god for block heaters, plug em in and let em go.
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