Will a 7800xt be overkill/worth buying over a 7700xt whenever I have a 1440p 165hz monitor
Posted by BossWizard6519@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 33 comments
Basically the title
vensango@reddit
Nothing is overkill for 1440p, not even a 4090. Many modern AAAs can't even clock out a 144hz 1440p monitor on a 4090 without heavy upscaling/FG reliance. And that's not going to improve as newer games come along (it will in fact, get worse.)
Inb4anythinglessthan4kisawaste.
Wooden-Agent2669@reddit
Duh if your target is only Ultra settings.
vensango@reddit
Imagine buying a brand new graphics card for over 300 USD and not being able to max out graphics (raytracing notwithstanding.)
Back-in-my-fucking-day an X60 GPU was enough to run everything on max for 2-3 years without an issue on native, now if it's not frame genned and upscaled (causes fidelity loss) to shit, you can't even run it native 1080p 60, let alone with max graphics.
Wooden-Agent2669@reddit
Back in my day. Cool it isnt back in the day. And now adjust the prices back then to prices now. Not that much of a difference
videoismylife@reddit
I was going to say this too - I have a 6900XT (about 5-10% slower than the 7800XT, and a bit faster than a 4070) on a 1440p 165Hz monitor and I almost never get 165 FPS - I'm usually somewhere in the 90-130 FPS range on high settings, and more like 60-80 FPS with RT.
I don't use FSR as don't like the jaggies I get and I doubt it'd improve my experience much; I don't really see a difference between 90 and 165 FPS and I'm too slow to take advantage of those couple extra microseconds anyways lol. In the newest games it looks like I'm going to have to start using some kind of upscaling, though, eg. Space Marine 2 struggling to get sub-80 FPS without FSR. (Techspot benchmarks)
Clessey@reddit
This. I am playing on a 170Hz 1440p monitor with a 7900XT and I am not even capping a 170 FPS on many AAA titles.
littman28@reddit
This is a sad truth.
xxrandom98xx@reddit
No, not overkill for 1440p. I'm using a 6700xt now and considering the upgrade to it myself. Ultimately it would depend on what games you're playing, but most AAA games get demanding to run 1440p 165 fps.
Mean_Comfort_4811@reddit
That 6700xt get hot? Mine was running up to 92° on 1440p. Gonna repaste either way, but curious.
ocp-paradox@reddit
I've had 3 different 6900/6950XT cards now and they all get crazy hotspot temps no matter what I did. Watercooling with liquid metal etc.
I noticed on the latest card, an AMD 6950 XT, they seem to be using what looks like a grizzly thermal pad on the GPU die, when on the others I just saw paste.
fredgum@reddit
What do you mean by crazy hotspot temperatures? You should only worry about that if it goes well past 100C.
ocp-paradox@reddit
it was hitting 110c and shutting the pc down
Eunit226@reddit
Have you tried undervolting? I've had great success with my RX 6800. Playing throne and liberty at 2k for example and my hot spot rarely exceeds 68c. Without the undervolt it would typically hit 85c on the hotspot playing graphically intense titles, just food for thought, good luck.
fredgum@reddit
There is no reason to worry about a hotspot temperature of 85C. You should only worry about that if it goes well past 100C. Recommendations of GPU temps below 80C are for the main GPU temperature, which is usually 10-20C below the hotspot temperature.
Eunit226@reddit
I didn't say it was cause for concern. I mentioned it was a way to lower your temps. I get identical performance with an undervolt and in turn I get less power consumption and my system gives off less heat to get dumped into my office. I do this with my CPU as well.
fredgum@reddit
Is the 92C the temperature on the Radeon software? If so that is a perfectly normal temperature, as Radeon measures hotspot temperature (which you should only worry about if it goes above 100+).
The temperature that is comparable to what you monitor on software like MSI afterburner is the main GPU temperature, not the hotspot/junction one. That temperature is usually 10-20C lower than the hotspot temperature.
118shadow118@reddit
That seems quite hot. My 6750xt wouldn't go much above 70° when gaming, with only the hot spot into the 90s. I play in 1080p, but that shouldn't matter much, 100% usage is 100% usage
xxrandom98xx@reddit
Not that i've ever noticed over a long period of time. I have a triple fan hellhound version. I will say that I don't think the fans ever go near 100% automatically, and whenever I go into the radeon software to manually change the curve higher, it always resets anytime my system shuts off/restarts...Very annoying.
lumlum56@reddit
The 6700xt doesn't throttle until 110° so you should be fine
zBaLtOr@reddit
Overkill and GPU at least its on 1080-4090, overkill dosent exist
vargavision@reddit
7800XT would be worth it.
hazochun@reddit
Depends on do you want to max out 165hz or just "smooth enough" is fine for you.
I got 3080, 12 year old game that gave me 175 fps(capped with my monitor) stable with newly updated 9800x3d setup. 1 week later Dx12 graphics API and new staff. 120 fps now with same setting. Had to turn on DLSS high quality to get back the FPS. Didn't even turn on the newly added Ray tracing.
5080, when?
Stargate_1@reddit
What game?
hazochun@reddit
Warthunder, forgot to mention.
Stargate_1@reddit
And you can't change the render API?
hazochun@reddit
Yes, can change back to DX11 but I didn't have time to test.
Sweaty_Pomegranate34@reddit
Even if it's overkill today (it's not) it certainly won't be in a year or two.
Silent1Disco@reddit
even if it's overkill, it's not a bad thing to be, I would surely get a 4090 if I could afford in my 1440p
seajay860@reddit
nah brotha its the best you could even go for a 9800x3d
jatoDeBosta@reddit
It's either the 7800XT or the 6750XT, the 7700XT is not worth it, just 15% faster while costing 30% more, a 11,5% inefficient buy, if you can afford the 7800XT go for it
UraniumDisulfide@reddit
Not overkill at all, you’ll easily be able to max it out
DuuhEazy@reddit
No
ImProdactyl@reddit
Overkill? No. Worth buying? If you have the budget, sure. 7800xt is a great card but could maybe depend on what you will be using it for and if the 7700xt is good enough for your needs and want to save some money.